WEBVTT - A Farewell to Meredith 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:10.400 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, everybody, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.560 we are scrubbing in. We are scrubbing in again. Were 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.400 scrubbing it again because there's yeah Mark here, Oh the 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.680 bus is coming over me. No, no no, no, because we 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.960 recorded an entire episode, an entire podcast Monday was in 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.720 the can ready to go. And we're not blaming Mark. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.320 I don't. I wish if I knew what happened, I 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.440 would be more readily. I mean, obviously if the blame 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.280 is on me, I just don't know what happened. Here's 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:36.959 the thing. We've done this podcast for how many years 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.080 and this has never happened. So it's not We're not upset. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.199 We're not mad. We're not mad, And especially when it 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.680 has to do with a computer glitch. Yeah, you know, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.800 it's like Taylor Swift says, glitch. I think I think 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:54.120 there's been so mad it crashed. Usually when it crashes, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.280 it's still in there. They still keep the audio recorded. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.880 But I think this is going to be a better 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.120 versions two because you know, the first time around, we 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.280 were really upset about the Gray's anatomy Meredith Farewell, and 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.640 now that we were able to get it out once before. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.640 I feel like we're gonna be a little bit more succinct. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.280 I'm still upset, I still haven't help set, but I 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.119 feel like now I have my thoughts in order. Basically, 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.840 it was just absolutely disappointing. We have watched Meredith Gray 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.000 for nineteen years. We've watched her have many near death experiences, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:32.080 love life, trauma drama, celebrated her wins, cried for her losses, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:39.360 and cheered her on with her victories times yes, and 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:46.320 the Goodbye Farewell episode we got was black luster. When 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.480 I tell you, I am legitimately pissed. I feel as 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.960 a fan that I have watched nineteen seasons with Meredith 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.120 Gray and that was her sendoff. It feels wrong, It 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.360 feels hurtful, and it feels intentional. I wish that I 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.360 had some behind the scenes person there that we could 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.079 talk to, because I feel like something went wrong. When 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.320 you watch that scene, Bailey starts talking, she doesn't finish 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.720 her sentence. There's weird camera cutaways. Then there's that super 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.200 weird silence that she kind of rotates around and looks 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.280 at everyone, but it's not even interesting people that like 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.720 she couldn't even get a toast out. It was very, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.040 very strange. I feel like something went awry, but they 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.440 had three months to edit it and make it perfect, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.880 and it was garbage. The teaser was better. The had 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.440 me crying, and the episode and had me lying. All 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.880 they had to do was figure out. All they had 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:44.640 to do was show us like clips from old seasons flashbacks, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.680 put a sad song over it. We're not hard to please. Well, 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.000 we're kind of hard to please. We're not hard to 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.040 please that sense, by the way, you said that when 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.880 they Didn'tary said that the promo. Maybe you curious, cheer up? 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:05.120 No furious, No, she said something it made her fury eye. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:11.600 But yeah, okay, the teaser made me teary eyed, and 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.960 the episode made me fury eyed. Yes, I'm with you, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:20.160 and I still have that fury in my eyes. Okay. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.720 I have a note page. It's titled worst episode ever, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.600 and like that was just written in anger. Like. I 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.720 don't think it's the worst episode ever, but I think 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.240 as far as like a farewell episode, it was very disappointing. Meredith, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.280 I said Merideth. The only positive thing I can say 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.680 is that Meredith's hair looked bomb. Everything else in all 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.600 caps disappointing, and then I said one more positive. The 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:45.000 baby heart story was based off of a scrubber's real 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:49.520 life story, Taylor Monroe. Her son's name is Owen so 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.840 on Brand, so On Brand, And thank you for on 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.760 the Facebook group letting us know about that, because it's 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.640 fascinating knowing that the video we saw of the open 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.760 heart on the small, small, strawberry sized heart was your 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.960 actual sound's heart. That was amazing knowing that while watching it, Yeah, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.240 I would say that was the only highlights. Okay, so 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.520 I'm going to disagree with you on that, and I 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.440 just want in case you're listening to the podcast and 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.839 you don't watch Grey's Anatomy, I would like some solidarity, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.960 solidarity with our scrub sisters here to really create some motion, 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.680 some emotion that I'm feeling to get behind this because 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.360 that is not the send off that we deserved. And 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.760 I'm going to get back to that in a second. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.880 I'd like to say that I think the episode in 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.200 itself wasn't a bad episode. I really enjoy these interns. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.720 I love that the three of them are moving into 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.160 Meredith's old hows and that they're kind of trying to 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.800 do that dynamic again. I actually enjoyed that, but for 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.560 the sendoff, it was just appalling and rude and disrespectful. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.000 So I think on the podcast next week, I need 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:57.480 everybody an agreeance here, agreeance, agreements, agreements, but right that 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.400 we give Meredith her very well that she deserves. To 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.640 give her a toast. So you have to do some homework? 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.920 Why I don't. I don't need any homework. I could 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.000 probably write one right now. No, because I want you 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.960 to send it to Hannah on Friday so she can 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.279 put it in the rundown. Okay, I'm really good about 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.599 sending things to Hanna for the rundown though, So I 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.000 want this. This is due by Friday. Oh my god, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.080 our farewell to married. No, let's give her the give 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.479 her what she deserves. Well, okay, chat GBT or whatever 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:31.640 you need to do the thing. I like the new interns. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.919 I just don't like that they're trying to recreate the magic, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:41.960 which is Meredith, Alex, George, Isy Christina that we've already seen. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.839 You can't recreate it. That's their initials. This is the 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:53.599 same initials, Meredith, Alex, George, George Magic. Oh my gosh, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.200 that's see that did that for now. That's what I'm saying, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:03.160 where are they at. They may on magic, yes, okay, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:08.119 any of us tragic, but if they're at their job 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.880 to try to make it fresh and exciting and magic again, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.680 I just don't know if it can be done with 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.599 different I mean, it was just so incredible what it was, 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.560 and I like the new interns, but I don't feel 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.280 like they have the same like chemistry within each other. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.440 They're still young, it's still early days, and you would 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.159 know that reference if you watched Love Island. Mark liked 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.960 Oh thank you. Mark liked the Helm Bartending story, saying 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.320 I love it. I'm just saying it's interesting if Helm 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.320 is kind of secretly coaching one of the interns on 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.279 the side, that'll probably revive Helm's love of medicine, get 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.120 her back in. In the meantime, she's helping. I forget 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.039 which one it was, Okay. The only thing that makes 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.080 that interesting to me is if they fall in love 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.720 or have a relationship, happy about it, and then she 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.440 like inspires her to come back, Yasuda inspires Helm to 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.880 come back. Helm poured hot liquor and a mixer into 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.480 martini glass, which, if you know anything about drink. So 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.560 you don't drink a hot martini. She's not good bartender. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.160 Why she needs to be a doctor? That's a minucia picture. Yeah, 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.880 literally miss that entirely. Well. It makes sense that Mark 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.040 want to know he doesn't drink, but you I'm a 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:24.080 fish veteran. Yes, not so much anymore. I'm off caffeine 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:29.600 and alcohol for a bit. Here, here we go. No, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.760 I believe in you. I want you to feel your 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.400 best and be healthy. So whatever you need to do, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.720 thank you, I've done it. What I put. I asked 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.200 chat gpt for a tribute to Meredith Gray asked for 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.400 a hundred words. Would you like it? Sure? Here's what 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.240 chat gpt came up with. I feel like we should 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.920 save it for next week. You think, so that's gonna 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:53.840 be mine for this is right now? Okay? Moving on 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:59.120 Gray's we expected more got less? What do you expected 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.880 too much? I think? What? Maybe you're right? Maybe the 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.160 episode wasn't that bad. But my I gotta say though, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.320 sometimes like people, it's very half and half. In my DMS, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.480 it was a unanimous disappointment. Thumbs down. Yes, but it 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.760 was because the expectations of being her farewell episode. We 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.720 expected more. I wonder how much is ABC hyping it 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.040 as a farewell episode and she'll be back before you know? 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.040 That would maybe even more mad because there was a 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:30.880 disconnect somewhere. There was everything felt fleeting. That was what 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.240 we talked about the first round that we did the podcast, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.720 Like every storyline feels like they just were like, let's 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.319 do this, and then they don't. There's no build up. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.160 That's what it is. There's no build up here. Yeah, Like, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.320 what's like there was a cohesive intention that used to 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.400 be in the early years. Yeah, it's not cohesive anymore. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:52.960 It's detached. These are notes also, Tony and I would 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.160 love to be extras, like maybe on like those people 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.440 sleep on the plane, I think too by the way 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.480 her reading of the people on the plane and people 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.480 sitting around, And I'd be so annoyed if I was 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.000 saying in front of a mom trying to read out 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.360 loud to her three kids, what about tema chat chit 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.680 chatting the whole flight to someone wanted some good chit chatting. Okay, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.760 you can learn a thing or two. Yeah, um, okay, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.320 let's take a break in. We'll be wait. But I 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.240 had one more thought about just the ending. Please. People 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.360 were upset that Scott Speedman and she did not end 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.320 up together. Meredith, doctor Nick Mark, doctor Nick Marsh. He 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.360 not no his name. No, she doesn't need a man. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.600 He wasn't it. I didn't ever. I didn't like him 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.319 either way, but I did we liked him, No, I didna. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.120 There's broadcast proof of us saying that we liked him 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.040 for her. I did feel a certain type of way, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.520 and then I quickly felt the other way. But I 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.800 feel like she doesn't need to end up with a 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.160 man to have her happily ever after. She needs sitting 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.600 up with a woman. No, she needs to end up 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.760 with herself. I'm just kidding, but I'm not. I'm not 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.640 into him at all. He does need like the ick 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:01.640 just bad vibes. Yeah, same, he's kind of mean feeling. Yeah, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.920 so mirrors like in a better place, you're probably gonna 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.080 end up together. Day. I took the first initials of 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.200 the new interns and it's not MLSJB. You can't even 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.360 make anything. No, there's no vowel. You can't make a 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:18.240 word out of it. Can we buy a vow Okay, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:32.319 we need to take a break. We'll be right back Hey, everyone, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.320 it's Bethany Frankel. We are reliving the best moments from 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.520 all the seasons of the Real Housewives on my new podcast, Rewives. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.479 From the table flips of New Jersey to the craziest 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.880 hills of Beverly. No city will be spared, and I'm 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.400 joined by my most fabulous celebrity friends that you will 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.360 never expect to help me break down the drama. Kristin Channawi, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:11:00.320 Tori Spelling, Jerry Springer, Snookie, even Emmy winner Elizabeth Moss. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.960 The list goes on and on, So let's whoop it 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.440 up and mention it all because you can binge episodes 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.240 of rewives right now, with so much more to come. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.480 Listen to Rewives on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:22.520 listen to your podcasts. All right, we're back. Something else 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:27.520 that happened. Okay, I don't listen to podcasts. Other podcasts 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:32.560 I don't listen to. Do y'all listen to our podcasts 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.520 once it goes up? Uh? No, only if I missed it, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.120 But I just mean in general, I listened to quite 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.760 a few podcasts, right yeah, Well they're very great. There's 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.120 a lot of great podcasts. But you know, we got 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.960 some criticism over our interviewing skills over the week or whatever, 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.760 and to be honest, I wasn't even hurt by them 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.400 because I was like, you're right, we got up our 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.920 game and that's what it is, what it is, and 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.439 that's what we're about to do. When you get criticism, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.240 that doesn't hurt you. You know that they're right. Right. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.960 But the thing about introducing our guests, it's been something 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.840 that's been on my mind for quite some time and 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.520 I just haven't I don't know if it's if it's 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.000 like I've been saying it for a while. Do you 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.440 remember I've been saying, I'm like, we want I want 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.880 to set them up better because we obviously know who 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.199 we're interviewing, but the listeners might not know. But then 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.600 I feel like we like let them into the zoom 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.480 or let them into the studio and then we carry 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.600 on and then that's it and then we're done. So 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.880 so now we have a protocol. We have a protocol, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.439 and I think a lot of it was like writing 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.760 down a bio about someone and then reading it while 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.120 they're in front of you. To me, felt really awkward. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.000 So I was always like, oh, I just want to 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.240 like make it conversational. But then I what we were 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:39.880 what was pointed out to this is that a lot 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.640 of people are hearing about our guests for the first time, 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.440 like maybe they're not clued into them, and they're like, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.439 I really like this person, but what do they do. 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.440 They're to like go back and research on their own. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.400 We don't want y'all to have to research now and 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:55.800 fret no more. We hear you. Five years we hear you, 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.080 and we have a new protocol in place, so that 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.320 will not be happy anymore. Well, so I listened to 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.040 a couple of podcasts over the weekend. I listened to 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.960 the Call Her Daddy Kelsey Ballerini interview, which will go 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.640 too And then I listened to Marianna Huay and she 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.200 was talking to a doctor and I was Marianna, Yeah, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.320 who was that, Marianna, Well, here I am to educate. Wow, okay, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.520 mary Anna um. She has a podcast Life with Marianna, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.480 And she was talking to this doctor and they were 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.160 talking about just like a lot of the benefits of 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.520 like what you can do if you're battling like anxiety 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.559 or just like mental stuff. I was like, I'm going 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.680 to go back and listen to this and write down notes. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.640 And I was thinking, what a great podcast. I don't 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.760 know if anyone's doing that for us, but it was like, wow, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.280 that's a great job, like taking no doubt people are 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.520 taking note, take notes on But what did Tanya say 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:51.760 this week? That was crazy? That's what we do. Yeah, um, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.280 mismatched quotes. But Kelsey Ballerini and call her Daddy. Alex 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.600 Cooper is amazing at what she does and Alex Cooper 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.880 the oh our door as well, but is open for 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:08.679 you anytime you need. Yeah, happy to have you. Honestly 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.880 would love that, would love to go and call her daddy. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.679 We can fit in the chair together, that big chair there. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.439 I don't think she's ever had a personal in someone's lap. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:21.080 Yeah first happy, too happy to oblige. Yeah, um, but 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.720 I'd like to be on the bottom. I think, like 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.360 me sitting on you. Yeah, it's vulnerable. Well we'll talk 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.160 about it, okay when the moment comes. You listen to 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.400 the Kelsey Ballerini episode, right, I listened to many of 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.120 Call Her daddies. Okay, but you listen to this, Yes, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.920 what did you think over your takeaways? So it's interesting 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.040 to me how much detail was shared, you know, because 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.720 I think and I think that that's the beauty in 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.680 music is like you can write these lyrics that are 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:53.120 super super vulnerable and like expressive, but they're not so 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.720 play by play of everything that it leads a lot, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.840 leaves a lot to the imagination. And I feel like 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.800 the interview really didn't leave a lot to the imagination. Yeah, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.440 And the thing is is, you know, there's two sides. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.840 There's three sides to every story exactly, and this was 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.080 her side and her version of what happened, and I 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.400 felt like she you know, she was like, I'm he's 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.480 not all to blame, Like I had my own issues 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.600 that didn't work out in the relationship whatever. But I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:26.040 felt like it was very honest about her version of 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.120 what happened and kind of vulnerable, and some parts I 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.800 was like, Oh, that's so hard, and also navigating going 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.840 through those things in your personal life while navigating a 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:40.920 public image. Also, I grew up very much like what 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.160 people thought of me and our family was like a 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.040 big deal, like wanting to always have on a good front. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.440 I think that's the southern culture type thing. I don't 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:58.000 know if you relate to that. No, and then good talk, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.760 but also the like the um the shamer on sex, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.440 how he was saying she had only slept with one 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.600 man before him when that question was brought up her 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.680 sleeping on the couch. I didn't. I didn't really like 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:16.000 how people were bashing him about moving into her house 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.040 like that. There was a conversation of like, well, he's 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.720 nine years older and he moved into your house. But like, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.160 if the person I'm dating has a better house, I'm house. Yeah, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.760 I don't care who's older, right, who's what I do? 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.800 I'll find that to be weird either. But I was 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.320 thinking like, oh, if the roles were reversed and she 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.840 moved into his nicer house, you know, it would probably 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.400 want to be a conversation. So I thought that. But 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.360 it is something that people it's on people's mind. Somebody 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.040 damn me the other they're like, why are you moving 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.920 into his house? He should be moving into yours? And 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.640 I was like, I don't have a house. Wait why 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:54.360 I'm like, I rent an apartment and so henceforth, why 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:59.760 I'm the bottom line of my thesis is that is 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.040 why I am going to be moving in there. Yeah, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:03.560 it just makes sense. You're going to move into the 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.480 better living situation. Yeah, but I would be interested to 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.040 hear his version of what happened. And he even made 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.560 a statement that said, she knows I would never talk 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.760 about this publicly, so we might never hear that. But 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.600 the EP is fantastic. But I also found very interesting 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.240 how she said she married this man because she grew 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.480 up from such like a broken home and he was 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.080 like the symbol if he was so close with his 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.080 family and so clothed, they were so close, that was 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.920 everything that she'd wanted. And I was like, I feel 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.919 like we make a lot of decisions in our adult 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.560 life to kind of counter balance things that we experience 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.320 as kids. And I found that to be very interesting. Well, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.280 Kelsey said that what really ended the marriage was when 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.000 they started disagreeing over starting a family. I think the 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.800 quote is the moment I think it was over over 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.679 was when I realized I wasn't ready for kids. And 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.719 that's a fundamental difference. And in the first version of 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.200 this podcast, we did we were saying like we were 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.880 because you were like, don't you talk about that before 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.560 you get married? But when I was twenty two, I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.040 wanted four kids. Now, but I'm like like, but now, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.480 don't you and Haley talk about that? Yeah, but I'm 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.679 saying like, even when I started dating Haley in twenty eighteen, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.159 I probably was like certain I wanted kids, right, I 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.439 think she changed change But I think I don't know. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.560 It's hard to say, but she's saying like, that's that's 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.359 something like a fundamental difference. So like if you're not 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.040 on the same page, how do you continue? You know? Um? 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.240 But yeah, I thought it was interesting. I thought it 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.080 was interesting. She slid into Chase Stokes DMS. That's how 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:46.480 they started talking, and the way she did it. His 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.800 his handle is high high Chase Stokes and she damned 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.120 him and she just said high Chase Stokes. That's game. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.520 That's Riz right there, that's Riz. Yeah, but do you 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.359 know what Riz is? Do you think you don't know 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.480 what ye? Riz is? Like swag? Oh yeah, Tonya, don't 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.560 act like you're all of a sudden like one with 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:13.520 gen Z. I'm totally one with gen Z. Well do 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.720 you don't think that many other women who are not 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.720 at Kelsey Ballerini's level of fame and notoriety said Hi, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.199 Chase steps to him, thinking no, no, no, But what 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.919 I'm saying is like, even if you were to DM 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:28.960 anybody else, Like if you're listening and you want to 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.480 DM this guy and his name is like, Hi, I'm Edward. Hi, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.320 I'm Edward. Is such a cute, It's such a It's 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.000 a very easy way in. So if you're following someone 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.320 in their user name sends you hi something, take that, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.800 take that alley oop and slam dunk it nice tonya 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.600 really good? Whoa who knew? Getting better? She's a sports girl, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:54.000 that's right. Take the ball and sink it first when 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.800 I was stronger. Yeah yeah, I don't know ball, you're 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:03.720 sinking golf? Yeah yeah, Um. Either way, I hope both 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:08.359 parties move on fine happiness. I love Kelsey Ballerini are 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.320 like I don't. I don't know as much about Morgan Evans, 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:16.119 So I'm not like, oh, I love Morgan Evans, but 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.879 I still wish him. I think a divorce and getting 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.560 into a marriage young and then it ending is like 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:27.280 sad regardless, So I don't wish him bad. Definitely not. Yeah, 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.639 but I don't need to like hear from him like 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.080 on our podcast. But like I'm saying, if he had 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.760 to call her daddy, I don't listen. I don't know 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:40.879 I would. I don't know if I would. Okay, but 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.119 don't wish him ill. Yeah, I just don't want to 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.800 listen to him. Correct Yeah, okay, yeah, wish him the best, 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.800 but wish him the best. Yeah yeah. Um. Anyways, I 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.359 thought it was a really good interview. I thought it 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.080 was very like it. I feel like I didn't inspire 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.560 you a little bit Becca to be a better host, 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.320 because what I was thinking is that she asked questions 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.480 where I'm kind of like like, that's where she went there. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.600 She went there, and that's what you have to do. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.679 Because even though we as listeners are like, oh, she 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.200 just asked that, we're so excited to hear the answer true, 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.000 and I think we hear them try to weazel out 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.760 of the answer. It's all upside, okay, Mark, We're not 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.760 trying to make people squirm. Yeah, I don't want to. 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.679 We're not the squirm Alex Cooper makes them squirm. No. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:25.840 I think the people that are going on her podcast 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.439 and they're like, these are the off limit things, so like, 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.760 don't even go there, and then she probably just takes 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:32.800 as far as she can with the things I've had 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.600 to say no on a podcast where it was like 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.679 something I don't want to talk about. It's kind of 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.720 all It does put you in a squirming position because 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.480 you're like, oh, I have to like stand like my 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:46.439 ground with someone, and it's okay you can, and so 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.400 I think it's like you go for it, and then 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:49.920 they get to say like I don't really want to 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.800 talk about that or I'm not comfortable sharing that, and 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.639 then you go cool. I've always said too, I find 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:56.800 it like when you're going in for an interview, it 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:01.400 should just be no holds bar, you know what I mean, Okay, 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.399 like you shouldn't expect that they can ask you anything 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.359 like I've gone. I've had interviewers where people ask me 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.359 stuff about Ryan that I don't want to answer, but 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:13.120 it's on me to respond in a way that I 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.160 find to be the best. You know. I mean, he's 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.000