Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We were presented by
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Speaker 1: win Beat. Eric Ellen here inside the studio with Jets
Speaker 1: wide receiver Corey Davis. Momentarily we're gonna be joined by
Speaker 1: the mad backer, Bar Scott. But Corey, how about this.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets were underdogs and each of you
Speaker 1: your first six games, you have four wins. Since two
Speaker 1: thousand you gotta go back. Thirty eight teams started the
Speaker 1: year underdogs in each of their first six games. Only
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns the two thousand one had won four games.
Speaker 1: That's crazy as a crazy stet, But I mean as
Speaker 1: we want. We're, uh, you know, we're in the midst
Speaker 1: of trying to turn things around here and um, you
Speaker 1: know it's it's going pretty well. Obviously we got a
Speaker 1: lot to clean up, but you know it's a good story.
Speaker 1: Do you think people are still sleeping on you guys?
Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like we still have a few that's
Speaker 1: out there, um sleeping on a still. But that side,
Speaker 1: you know, we uh, we were about the guys that's
Speaker 1: inside these walls, in these rooms, um, going out and
Speaker 1: working with us every single day. So that's how we're
Speaker 1: focused on. Um. All the outside noises, outside noise, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's something that you guys talk about amongst yourself. So
Speaker 1: with outside noise, not that the noise so much is
Speaker 1: as far as less. Like you know, people talking about
Speaker 1: lines and saying, well the Jets are underdogs again yes, UM, Honestly,
Speaker 1: we don't focus too much on that. UM. I always
Speaker 1: see like the picks after the games, like that's all
Speaker 1: the other team, Green Bay or whatever. Um, And obviously
Speaker 1: that makes us feel some type of weight. But it
Speaker 1: is what it is. Like I said, we're focused on
Speaker 1: us and just trying to get better each and every week.
Speaker 1: You're one of the old guys in the locker room,
Speaker 1: even though you're a very young guy. UM. Going to
Speaker 1: Green Bay and taking down an elite team who had
Speaker 1: won fifteen Consect games at Lamb Boulfield, who were tenant
Speaker 1: oh after losses under Matt Lafleur. But what does what
Speaker 1: does that say about this group? Man? That says a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a great team. And we
Speaker 1: went in there and we did what we were supposed
Speaker 1: to do, what we expected ourselves to do. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's a great team run by a
Speaker 1: great coach, great quarterback. Um. But you know, we feel
Speaker 1: like we were a pretty good team too. And um,
Speaker 1: you know we went in there and we we're playing
Speaker 1: pretty well, and we we got it done. You were
Speaker 1: just talking about it before with me, your postseason trips
Speaker 1: with Tennessee Titans. Do you talk to the young guys
Speaker 1: in the locker room what the playoffs are like? I
Speaker 1: know it's way down the line, but as far as
Speaker 1: the second season and what you actually have to do
Speaker 1: to get there, Yeah, I thought him a few times
Speaker 1: about it now and then when the when the conversation
Speaker 1: comes up in the locker room. Um. And and you
Speaker 1: know also what it takes. Um. You know, we when
Speaker 1: when we went to the postseason, it was it was
Speaker 1: a player run team. You know, it was guys stepping up,
Speaker 1: being being leaders and and really running the team, um
Speaker 1: how they were supposed to. And you know that that
Speaker 1: was one of the common denominators of of why we
Speaker 1: made it to the postseason. Um. You know, the coaches
Speaker 1: were obviously a huge part of that, um, but the
Speaker 1: players were stepping up, talking and being the leaders they
Speaker 1: were supposed to. And there was a lot of the
Speaker 1: little things that we were doing. Um, that went a
Speaker 1: long way. Um. So we you know when I whenever
Speaker 1: I talked to those young guys, you know, I'll try
Speaker 1: to harp on that the little things and and um,
Speaker 1: all the things that it takes to get to that postseason.
Speaker 1: Is it becoming a player run team here? It is?
Speaker 1: It is? Um. You know, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: good dudes in a lock of room, Like I said,
Speaker 1: a lot of good captains. C J one of them.
Speaker 1: Um hardy Um. Now zach is is coming into itself
Speaker 1: being a great leader leading that huddle. Um. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of good dudes who can take us to
Speaker 1: the next level. How about the road success? I mean,
Speaker 1: and not a lot of young teams I think could
Speaker 1: go into the situations that you guys have here early
Speaker 1: in the season and come home with victors. I mean
Speaker 1: that is tough to to kind of go on the road,
Speaker 1: especially in this this league, to go on the road
Speaker 1: and get a win. Um, But we meet personally, I
Speaker 1: love playing on the road. UM yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: like that atmosphere us against the world. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I know if you of the other guys do too,
Speaker 1: But um, that's what we expect no matter no matter
Speaker 1: what we play Mtter, when we play, we expect to
Speaker 1: win and play our solid ball. You play seventeen one
Speaker 1: game seasons, but do you think the Jets two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty two season potentially changed with the long ball against
Speaker 1: the Browns? You guys down late, here's oh and one.
Speaker 1: It looked like you're gonna go and too, but then
Speaker 1: you provided a spark, You get the on side kick,
Speaker 1: before you know it, g dubs in the end zone.
Speaker 1: You guys win that game. And then since there, you know,
Speaker 1: since that first game where you guys lost the Ravens
Speaker 1: at home, you've won four out of five. I mean
Speaker 1: that that game was definitely the turning point to me, um,
Speaker 1: you know, for the season, and it just shows the
Speaker 1: type of team we have. We got a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes who aren't frontrunners, who have no quit in them. Um.
Speaker 1: And that was that was That was a tough game, um,
Speaker 1: and who play went all the way down to the
Speaker 1: last whistle. Um. But that's what we expect ourselves to do.
Speaker 1: And you know, the work that we put it out
Speaker 1: here on this field, um, all the stuff that people
Speaker 1: don't see. UM, you know, it showed that game, the
Speaker 1: three to three at halftime Week six against the Packers,
Speaker 1: You're not getting a lot going offensively, but there he
Speaker 1: is c D four making the big play. Can you
Speaker 1: take me through the long ball from Zach that really
Speaker 1: jumps started things for you guys offensively in the second half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like that was the spart that we needed. Um,
Speaker 1: it was a I knew it was a double move.
Speaker 1: I knew it was coming up, and um you know
Speaker 1: kind of asked me about it before that drive, you know,
Speaker 1: if I wanted it then and Zach did as well. So,
Speaker 1: UM know, he did a great job Downald up at
Speaker 1: the right time. Um, old On did a great job
Speaker 1: holding up and on that place. C J had a
Speaker 1: really good block. He had a really good cut on
Speaker 1: that um which gave Zack a little bit more time
Speaker 1: to put it up. Great spot. My job was easy.
Speaker 1: It could have been a touchdown, but Zack said he
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that you had the time that
Speaker 1: he was gonna place the ball and you were definitely
Speaker 1: gonna get it. Yeah. I mean he did it right.
Speaker 1: Um and we scored on the next play, you know,
Speaker 1: So I'm cool with that as long as you know
Speaker 1: it was six. I'm cool with it. Hey, how about
Speaker 1: the streaky got going? Now that's five consecutive games with
Speaker 1: at least a twenty yard reception. Oh I like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it, but I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how much you pride yourself and making the big play
Speaker 1: because you know your average per catch is way up
Speaker 1: there right now. I mean I pride myself. I'm making
Speaker 1: every every play, every catch, especially the big ones. You know,
Speaker 1: in the moments that we need him the most. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I want the team to call on me,
Speaker 1: to call my number. Um, you know I kind of
Speaker 1: want that. But man, it's a it's a blessing man
Speaker 1: just to be a part of this team and and
Speaker 1: just to see how much we're growing complimentary football. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the defense's efforts against Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and company holding them down to ten points? But how
Speaker 1: about special teams? We could talk about them every week? Yeah, boys,
Speaker 1: those as those guys playing really hard. Um, and it
Speaker 1: was a really good to see, you know, all three
Speaker 1: phases kind of kind of working together. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: complimentary ball. Um. And they got out there, they got
Speaker 1: us a score, which is huge. Um. Boyer always puts
Speaker 1: a huge MS on specer teams, so the solid um,
Speaker 1: you know, just to try to get us a player,
Speaker 1: get us field position or make a big play. And
Speaker 1: they did and it was huge. T J reading Sauce Gardener,
Speaker 1: you lined up against them throughout training camp? How good
Speaker 1: is this? Tannem? The best? Yeah? It the best. I
Speaker 1: mean we've been saying that we as wide I was
Speaker 1: have to be on our on our stuff each and
Speaker 1: every week, you know, for training campany practice coming out here,
Speaker 1: because they're really good corners and they make us better
Speaker 1: each and every week, each and every day, and you know,
Speaker 1: vice versa. So man, it's real good to have those
Speaker 1: dudes on our team. They could be fired up on
Speaker 1: the sideline, wasn't What kind of challenges do they pose
Speaker 1: receivers out there? And you take it through each guy
Speaker 1: because they're totally different in terms of the way they attack.
Speaker 1: They are different. Sauce has really good recovery, he's very physical,
Speaker 1: UM and he's fast too. I feel like Sauce has
Speaker 1: a is just really well rounded UM as a corner,
Speaker 1: and you don't see that as a as a rookie
Speaker 1: coming in just a league ready corner like that, UM
Speaker 1: and he holds his own man. It's real good to see.
Speaker 1: He's always fired up, talking, talking trash, so it turns
Speaker 1: me up a little bit. DJ. DJ is a little
Speaker 1: more quiet, but um, he's always locked in, always on
Speaker 1: this stuff. Um, you know, he's not going to give
Speaker 1: a big play too often, you know. And like I said,
Speaker 1: he's always locked in. And he has great transition, great
Speaker 1: ball skills too. Son at the tandem is is the best.
Speaker 1: Like I said, do you have similarities and personality with
Speaker 1: DJ A little bit? Yeah? I mean he's quiet, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm super quiet. He's always locked dan. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say that's some similarities. A good dude though. Good people. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me ask you after the game, Elijah More, Uh
Speaker 1: want to the social media obviously it's hearts in the
Speaker 1: right place. He wants to contribute. How can you help him?
Speaker 1: I guess uh, because you've seen things and abbs and
Speaker 1: flows in the National Football League and you know where
Speaker 1: young guys just like, hey times I'm open. I just
Speaker 1: want to be part of this too. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but what goes through your mind when you see it?
Speaker 1: And also can you talk to folks about how you
Speaker 1: guys feel in the room about Elijah because I think
Speaker 1: that he's so well liked in the room. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I get it. He just wants to help him
Speaker 1: be a part of the the team, you know, be
Speaker 1: a part of what we're doing here and what we're
Speaker 1: we're accomplishing. Um. So so I get it. But he's
Speaker 1: a great dude. We love him in a room. We
Speaker 1: love him on this team. In his locker room. He
Speaker 1: is a selfless guy. He's far from selfish, like he
Speaker 1: always looking out for other people. We're always talking, always
Speaker 1: always in each other's ear, just you know, trying to
Speaker 1: stay locked in and stay positive, you know, throughout these
Speaker 1: days because you know they can they can get long. Um.
Speaker 1: But he's real good dude man. We love him on
Speaker 1: his team. Yeah. One of the things that we talked
Speaker 1: about in the locker room last week when I came
Speaker 1: up to you, the Jets that entered Week six is
Speaker 1: the only team in the NFL with four receivers with
Speaker 1: more than two hundred yards. And with that being said,
Speaker 1: I think Cochland across two hundred yards that threshold on
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Packers. But you told me, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: this system sometimes it's gonna be different guys every week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean we got a lot of playmakers,
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes who can do a lot with
Speaker 1: the ball. UM Breeze MC myself, E Garrett. You know,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of dudes who can do a
Speaker 1: lot with the ball. So I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1: It can't be frustrating at times, you know, because one
Speaker 1: week you might get one target, you might get zero,
Speaker 1: and the next week you might get eight or nine. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, we always want to be that guy.
Speaker 1: We're competitives, competitors, and you know we want our number
Speaker 1: to be called all the time. But um, we got
Speaker 1: to understand that there's a lot of dudes who can
Speaker 1: do a lot with the ball in this offense. And
Speaker 1: as long as we're winning, Um, you know, I'm cool
Speaker 1: with it. How tough for those conditions Sunday in Green
Speaker 1: Bay because we're watching from afar we see the rain
Speaker 1: coming down. But in terms of the footing, it was
Speaker 1: a little tough. It was running about a quarter and
Speaker 1: a half UM. But it was a little slick out there,
Speaker 1: a little cold too. Probably it's our first little really
Speaker 1: cold game this year. It wasn't too bad, but football
Speaker 1: weather until we call it so good out there, though
Speaker 1: too bad. You played college in the Midwest. You like
Speaker 1: playing in a venue like that, I do. I like
Speaker 1: playing the cold. It kind of makes you lock in
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um, dudes don't want to hit
Speaker 1: in the cold either. So yeah, uh, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Zack? Three games in three wins. It's really
Speaker 1: excelled in the fourth quarter. Um, from your vantage point,
Speaker 1: what do you see? Yeah, he's poised, he's confident, he's no,
Speaker 1: he's he's not panicking and that's really good to see,
Speaker 1: especially when you know the way that these games have
Speaker 1: been going. He stayed locked in, stay poison. He stayed
Speaker 1: the same Zack, which is is good to see in
Speaker 1: his second year. He's coming into a sof man and
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of confidence and he's running a
Speaker 1: good operation. Yeah, good to see Corey. Y're two for
Speaker 1: you here. How different does it feel as you approach
Speaker 1: week seven? Not just the winning, but the overall comfortability. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's huge. Um, you know, we're starting to
Speaker 1: get into the thick of the season. Um, so recovery
Speaker 1: has to be heightened. A lot of things has to
Speaker 1: has to kind of go up because we're at the
Speaker 1: point of season or you know, it's easy to slack off.
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of getting your routine. Is just
Speaker 1: easy to slack off and just say hey, okay, uh
Speaker 1: to certain things and just not do it. But like
Speaker 1: I said, we're in the thick of the season to
Speaker 1: where you gotta stay locked in and probably even do
Speaker 1: more so um than what we've been doing. You started
Speaker 1: off hot last season, but then you got banged up
Speaker 1: maybe around that midway point. What did you do as
Speaker 1: far as this offseason that might have been a little
Speaker 1: bit different from your approach in the past. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm always working on my body and trying to
Speaker 1: do as much as I can, you know, because this
Speaker 1: league understand how hard it is to stay healthy. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, endurability is one of the most important things.
Speaker 1: So I just want to stay on the field, play
Speaker 1: every game, and so I've been trying to take care
Speaker 1: of my body best I could be consciant of what
Speaker 1: I'm pinning in it, um, and you know, just stay
Speaker 1: on top of my recovery. But you changed a little
Speaker 1: bit in terms of either a weight or speed. I
Speaker 1: know you did something. Yeah, my weight dropped a little
Speaker 1: bit when I came into camp. Um. You know that
Speaker 1: was something that I kind of wanted to do. Get
Speaker 1: my weight down and get my plane weight down. Um,
Speaker 1: and I felt good, feel great. You know this stuff
Speaker 1: has been really good with me, really patient with me,
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to find that right playing weight
Speaker 1: um and I think we found it. Bring this up
Speaker 1: multiple times with you. But the run blocking aspect, what's
Speaker 1: the mentality for you when you know, hey, listen, maybe
Speaker 1: Breecee is gonna get the ball or mc is gonna
Speaker 1: get the ball, and I know I'm gonna be asked
Speaker 1: to take care of business and outside. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I like blocking every now and then,
Speaker 1: Um it's our chance to kind of go in there
Speaker 1: and tee off. But blocking really comes down to wills
Speaker 1: and want to you know, and and and really giving
Speaker 1: it up for your brothers. Like I said, we've got
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes who can do a lot with
Speaker 1: the ball, bree mc um. So if I could take
Speaker 1: a hit off those guys, free m up, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it every time. Uh. Speaking of brothers, when you
Speaker 1: walk into one Jets Drive, this is a place where
Speaker 1: your older brother Titus lined up and he came here
Speaker 1: and spent a part of his career here. What close
Speaker 1: through your mind? Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: it's Um. I think about Bro every day, especially coming
Speaker 1: in this building knowing that you know, this is the
Speaker 1: last place that he played. Um, you know, it definitely
Speaker 1: means something to me. Um. You know, my brother was
Speaker 1: was my best friend. We talked every day. We bonded
Speaker 1: over football, you know, that was our thing I played.
Speaker 1: I started playing because he started playing. Um. But man,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I just feel like he's with me
Speaker 1: when I'm here. Um. And there's a reason for me
Speaker 1: being here. There's a reason for everyone being here. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in coincidence. Um, but man, I know
Speaker 1: I'm here for a reason. So what was he like
Speaker 1: as a person? He was He joked too much, like
Speaker 1: he is an outgoing man. He was, like I said,
Speaker 1: jokes all the time. Did not know when to stop,
Speaker 1: even when it was way past like okay, like time
Speaker 1: to stop joking up. We did it, um, super playful man,
Speaker 1: huge heart. You two little boys, well, he loved to death.
Speaker 1: Um with a big heart. Man. We love people. Super
Speaker 1: respectful and he's a great player, a great balling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the scrab was a baller. He's a great baller. Man.
Speaker 1: I learned everything from him. I mean we we kind
Speaker 1: of play similar. Um, Like I said, I learned everything
Speaker 1: from him and um he played a Central Michigan and
Speaker 1: he was there with Conklin for a little bit. So
Speaker 1: Conklin's always held me like you guys really played like
Speaker 1: just to like like the exact same and I'm like,
Speaker 1: man like, that's who. I learned everything from Ben watching
Speaker 1: them ever since I was a little kid, and I
Speaker 1: still watched him to this day. He's a great player. Man.
Speaker 1: He's like two and just short of the metal, but
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more, you know, stocky, and you
Speaker 1: can do a lot with the ball man. I missed
Speaker 1: Bro for sure. How cool is that when Tyler comes
Speaker 1: up to you and talks about his remembrances and his
Speaker 1: experiences with your bron It's it's super cool. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to go talk to Konga just to hear
Speaker 1: stories about, you know, when when my brother was there
Speaker 1: with him, and he was there for a year with him,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't know too much, but he knew a
Speaker 1: little bit about my brother, and no any chance I
Speaker 1: get to just ask him about telling me a story whatever.
Speaker 1: I always ask how ours young boys doing? They're great, man.
Speaker 1: They're in Florida right now, live in life, playing ball
Speaker 1: like six and four. Believe now it could be way off. Man.
Speaker 1: They're they're getting big. Man. They're looking just like him,
Speaker 1: looked just like his mother as well, their mother as well.
Speaker 1: Down the line was uncle Corey gonna tell I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell him a lot everything about their pops, man, everything.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to, uh, you know, when they get older,
Speaker 1: I tell them all the stories about him and how
Speaker 1: how great of a Manny was. Um. Can you talk
Speaker 1: about fatherhood and your daughter and how old she is
Speaker 1: now and her name and and and what it's like
Speaker 1: for you when you when you're able to leave here
Speaker 1: and spend some time with her. Yeah, man, little xavy
Speaker 1: little as she's about to be two in December nine,
Speaker 1: had a couple of months. Um, but she she already
Speaker 1: hit the terrible twos. She's turned up all the time. Um,
Speaker 1: but man, I love being a father. Uh, just the
Speaker 1: perspective I have, you know, ever since she was born
Speaker 1: as totally shifted. Um, you know, going home, um, where
Speaker 1: I have a good day bad day, great game, bad game.
Speaker 1: She does not care. She's gonna love her daddy regardless
Speaker 1: of what those stats look like. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta make a conscience ever to just kind of
Speaker 1: check myself at the door, you know. Um or if
Speaker 1: it's a good game or a bad game. I can't
Speaker 1: dwell on that because she wants her dad. And man,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a great feeling though. I love my
Speaker 1: wife and she does a great job, you know with
Speaker 1: my little girl. Um, and we love we love being
Speaker 1: her parents. How unique is they're having a little girl
Speaker 1: because I'm a father and my daughter. At first, when
Speaker 1: I found out I was having a girl, I would
Speaker 1: never It was like I don't know how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in and I don't know how I'm going to relate.
Speaker 1: And then now she's growing, it's like I can never
Speaker 1: imagine not having one. That's exactly how it is. Man.
Speaker 1: Now that they're older, is like, man, what was life
Speaker 1: like before? Yeah? But man, I love her to death.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome. Okay, So we're taping the pod here
Speaker 1: on the Monday. Will you watch Lebroncos tonight because you're
Speaker 1: getting them on a short week coming up you can
Speaker 1: watch them be locked in taking notes and all ain't
Speaker 1: good notes. But i'n'ta be locked in. Yeah, it should
Speaker 1: be a good game. Do you typically watch one day
Speaker 1: night football no matter who? Okay, yeah, yeah that's all
Speaker 1: that's me and WFE these times, just to you know,
Speaker 1: on wine and Weston Bowl. Okay, cool? And then going out,
Speaker 1: do you have any do you have any traditions or
Speaker 1: routines in terms of road going out to the Mountain West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely different going out, especially playing at
Speaker 1: Denver play the last four years, so I know a
Speaker 1: little bit about it. Um. You definitely gotta be on
Speaker 1: your stuff as far as like take care of your
Speaker 1: body hydration, um, because you will feel the effect when
Speaker 1: you're there. So he's gotta be on your stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to play it though. You guys road warriors right now,
Speaker 1: you're three and on the road. Yeah yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And I wanted to get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this only division in the National Football League with not
Speaker 1: a team who has a less than five hundred records.
Speaker 1: You got the Patriots or three and three. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: are three and three. You guys four and two and
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills five and one. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that? Lead? Is good in there? Now? This division
Speaker 1: is pretty good people, Um, but that is pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: without further ado, as promised, here is the mad packer
Speaker 1: Bart Scott. What do you think about the New York
Speaker 1: Judge being four and two, only team in the National
Speaker 1: Football League who is underdogs in each of the first
Speaker 1: six games. I'll tell you what it is. It's exciting,
Speaker 1: right because we knew that we had a lot of
Speaker 1: talent on his team, but we didn't know that all
Speaker 1: the ingredients can come together so quickly. I think one
Speaker 1: of the major ingredients that kind of put this running
Speaker 1: game over the top, you know, is if the play
Speaker 1: of Dwayne Brown, what does that say about the character? Right?
Speaker 1: What does that say about the player? The player could
Speaker 1: have had an opportunity to get a guaranteed contract, walk
Speaker 1: Away never had to play a down. But I think
Speaker 1: he's teaching the young players the value of this league
Speaker 1: and playing in this game and just how special it
Speaker 1: is and every time you have an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play this lovely game, because it runs
Speaker 1: out of out for all of us. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I my body hadn't broken down, I would still love
Speaker 1: to be playing and competing and being in that environment,
Speaker 1: I think Dwayne Brown is kind of, you know, leading
Speaker 1: by example, you know, because he doesn't have to say
Speaker 1: how important and how great the game is and how
Speaker 1: you should fight for every year, every down that you're
Speaker 1: able and capable and healthy enough to play. I think
Speaker 1: he's showing it. His play has been inspiring and beautiful
Speaker 1: to watch, and it's really been an uptick to this
Speaker 1: rug game. Joe Douglas has done a phenomenal job with
Speaker 1: this roster, and casing point is Dwayne Brown. He has
Speaker 1: some tackle issues there in the summer. You bring Brown
Speaker 1: and thinking that potentially he could be reserved swing tackle.
Speaker 1: Then Bacton goes down, you gotta make a move. You
Speaker 1: bring him in. And to your point, Dwayne Brown could
Speaker 1: have shut it down. He could have collected his paycheck,
Speaker 1: but he wants to be out there with this young
Speaker 1: group who continues to impress. That's three straight games. We
Speaker 1: know the Green Bay Packers are scuffling right now, but
Speaker 1: what kind of statement to the Jets just make to
Speaker 1: the rest of the National Football League when they go
Speaker 1: into Lambeau and win by seventeen points and that was
Speaker 1: a dominant game on both sides of the line. Of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I mean we had so you know, you're looking to
Speaker 1: see what that defensive line did to arguably one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. And we
Speaker 1: knew that this was going to be a game in
Speaker 1: which Green Bay wanted to get right right. You heard
Speaker 1: Zaire Alexander, you know, saying that, hey, you know, by
Speaker 1: lot to the Jets, then you know we'll be concerned.
Speaker 1: But also just the fact that we knew that they
Speaker 1: were going home where they had one fifteen in a
Speaker 1: row going in the regular season, going in their building,
Speaker 1: knowing that how important it was for them to get
Speaker 1: a victor and get right because they're coming off a loss.
Speaker 1: To manage all that emotion early on, making a slug best,
Speaker 1: but not make any critical mistakes early on. You know,
Speaker 1: some things you probably want to take back, probably want
Speaker 1: to go forward on fourth and one to try and
Speaker 1: get an opportunity so you can kick the field goal
Speaker 1: and not have a three point swing. To manage all that,
Speaker 1: but man to see them come out of the third
Speaker 1: quarter and make the necessary adjustments. You know, I love
Speaker 1: this to this two linebacker mean it's two running back set,
Speaker 1: you know. And on the other side, I love the
Speaker 1: rotation and Benny Curry coming out, and there was the
Speaker 1: veterans making pivoto plays and pivotal times, Benny Curry early
Speaker 1: on setting the edge being able to be disruptive the
Speaker 1: line games that they were able to run kind of
Speaker 1: a coming out party to the rest of the world
Speaker 1: about how great Quinny Williams is and how great he's
Speaker 1: been playing. Finally he's able to put some statistics behind that,
Speaker 1: and guys like Kawan Alexander kind of making big plays
Speaker 1: and you know, not coming up and falling for the
Speaker 1: cheese like most people fall for Aaron Rodgers when he scrambles,
Speaker 1: and he used the throats that over your head, stand
Speaker 1: within the zone and inside and making a huge stop
Speaker 1: on fourth down. It was a collective team effort and
Speaker 1: it's probably the best game collectively that the Jets of
Speaker 1: play offense defense, special team games. Y'all know Clemens wanted
Speaker 1: to get credit for the block field goal, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: he wears the wrong color gloves. It was easy for
Speaker 1: us to figure out that that was quinnin but then
Speaker 1: for him to come back and make the play on
Speaker 1: the punt on the punt block to put points on
Speaker 1: the board. And every time the Packers had a response,
Speaker 1: the Jets responded in short order. And that's great to
Speaker 1: see from a young team that is playing well beyond
Speaker 1: their years, because I believe that that game in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: what's the cawless and then believing that the game is
Speaker 1: never over. I'm glad you mentioned that because we had
Speaker 1: Corey Davis at the top of this podcast. He was
Speaker 1: such a key figure in that game and then a
Speaker 1: key figure in this game. Again, like you said, three
Speaker 1: three second half, not much going for the Jets offensively,
Speaker 1: great play call from Michae Lafleur and Zach Wilson, hits up,
Speaker 1: hits Corey Davis long down the field, could have been
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But with that being said, Corey Davis has
Speaker 1: made a lot of big plays for this team this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's a really comple now. Last year,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of pressure coming in the first year,
Speaker 1: brought in to be the savior. But I think early
Speaker 1: on this season, with the emergence of Garrett Wilson, it
Speaker 1: kind of allowed him to settle down into a role
Speaker 1: that he's familiar with, kind of sharing the spotlight and
Speaker 1: not having a spotlight and all the pressure squarely on
Speaker 1: his shoulders. We saw when he was in you know,
Speaker 1: when he was in Tennessee. You know, he was sharing
Speaker 1: the spotlight with you know, a j. Brown. And now
Speaker 1: I think just emerging to Garrett Wilson, kind of drawing
Speaker 1: the coverage of Zaire Alexander marrying him wherever he goes
Speaker 1: kind of speaks to how people see the packing order
Speaker 1: as far as who's number one to stop who's number two?
Speaker 1: And I think it opens everything else for everybody else.
Speaker 1: You know, as long as Garret Wilson is allowed to
Speaker 1: be able to be that guy that you know, the
Speaker 1: opposing team really fears because of his ability to take
Speaker 1: short stuff, his short error quickness. And I think Corey
Speaker 1: Davis is comfortable now in a role that he's a
Speaker 1: lot more um familiar with. You're a football scientist. You
Speaker 1: mentioned before how much you love that personnel package. When
Speaker 1: the Jail insert both Breeese Hall and Michael Carter. What
Speaker 1: kind of stress does that put on a defense? And
Speaker 1: why did the Jets continue to thrive when both of
Speaker 1: those guys are out there in the field Because they
Speaker 1: continue to grow the package, right and like, because they're
Speaker 1: so versatile. So you can't just say okay, when they're
Speaker 1: out there, it's gonna be a run or or there
Speaker 1: they're running to this guy that guy. This time, they
Speaker 1: had Breece Hall up in the what we call the
Speaker 1: off you receive um tight end, you know, playing pretty
Speaker 1: much to the you tight end. And that's the old
Speaker 1: school fake toss trap. That's the same play that my
Speaker 1: coach used to run back at Southeastern in That was
Speaker 1: our old trap play. Thirty five trap was what we
Speaker 1: called it, and it was it was funny to see
Speaker 1: it being dusted off and brought up. But you have
Speaker 1: to bring and go back to all the two backs sets,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I can wait. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see him do the old flat that the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks ushed to do back in the day. And they
Speaker 1: had to full back in the in the tailback flat
Speaker 1: and they ran the leads the flat field type of defenders.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta dust everything off because all great
Speaker 1: coordinators adjust to the personnel that they have, and this
Speaker 1: is a personnel group that special. Once again, they both
Speaker 1: continue to catch the ball exceptionally. Well. I don't want
Speaker 1: to jink some but I don't think that I've seen
Speaker 1: the ball hit the ground for the most part, you know,
Speaker 1: since the Cleveland game where the kind of under threw
Speaker 1: some things. I think they're sure handed. I think they're
Speaker 1: putting getting guys in space, and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: testament to this offensive line being able to hold up
Speaker 1: and make zac feel comfortable and embolding to be able
Speaker 1: to make accurate throw and quit decisive of decisions. As
Speaker 1: a competitor yourself, do you feel a little bit for
Speaker 1: a guy like Elijah Moore, who it definitely is well
Speaker 1: liked inside that locker room. I talked to Corey about
Speaker 1: that before, and he just wants to contribute. And if
Speaker 1: you put in the work and you are a good
Speaker 1: talented player, um, obviously you want to make contributions yourself.
Speaker 1: So I think you're happy for the team success, but
Speaker 1: you also can understand, hey, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: help the group out as well in any way I can't.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, this has been brewing for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, right, We've talked about, you know, the
Speaker 1: lack of targets, and he's been opened a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You know. Unfortunately, you gotta think Zach only completed ten
Speaker 1: balls and you have to stick with the game, playing
Speaker 1: super tight. You know, running the ball was working, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it gets lost and you forget to get guys involved.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that they'll find ways to get him
Speaker 1: involved in the next game. You know. You think about
Speaker 1: that sweet that Burials guy Ha scored a touchdown on.
Speaker 1: That's something that is very suited for Elijah Moore as well.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that you can sneak in
Speaker 1: some of these personnel groups when unfortunate, when you go
Speaker 1: with two tailbacks, that takes a guy off the field.
Speaker 1: So I mean, as more people continue and say, try
Speaker 1: to make the adjustment to Corey Davis, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean we see this all the time, right with guys
Speaker 1: with three headed munsters. We see it sometimes sometimes it's
Speaker 1: te Higgins, sometimes the Jamark Chase. Sometimes it's uh Tyler boy. Right.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, sometimes when you have a wealth of riches,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just tend to go to people and some
Speaker 1: people can feel left out a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: they'll go back and they'll make a conservative effort to
Speaker 1: make him a big part of the game play and
Speaker 1: get him early touches, get him going, and then play
Speaker 1: off of that. You know he'll be put in the
Speaker 1: fifteen play script. Make sure that he's able to get
Speaker 1: the ball. Put him in some unique situations, just like
Speaker 1: they do with Briefs Hall, just like do with Michael Carter,
Speaker 1: to take advantage of their unique um talent, and they'll
Speaker 1: find a way to get him the ball. In all
Speaker 1: to be fine and to be a cool and talk
Speaker 1: about it in the next week. Yeah, no doubt about.
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy about winning. And the Jets are four and
Speaker 1: to remember last year they won four games throughout the
Speaker 1: entire season. There is definitely a belief here at one
Speaker 1: Jets Drive that they're just getting started opposite side of
Speaker 1: the ball real quick. This is four games now where
Speaker 1: the Jets have held opposition offenses to less than three
Speaker 1: yards three hundred yards and against Green Bay, who has
Speaker 1: a very good rushing offense, they get anything going on
Speaker 1: the ground. You mentioned Quinny and Williams before he's playing
Speaker 1: at another level, Um, and I wanted to ask you too,
Speaker 1: as a whole, this whole dynamic with Read and Sauce Gardner,
Speaker 1: how does that change everything up? Because the Jets are
Speaker 1: winning at the line of scrimmage, but then in the
Speaker 1: defensive actor you gotta give Michael Carter the second um
Speaker 1: credit as well. That inside fade, that slot fade that
Speaker 1: the Packers tried on them. He was stepped first up
Speaker 1: with the receiver incomplete ball. So I mean they're getting
Speaker 1: contributions from all over and they're good at every level.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Kwan Alexander before h. C. J. Molesley continues
Speaker 1: to thrive and then they put Quincy Williams in the lineup.
Speaker 1: He's fourteen tackles, yeah, and they were they were impactful, uh,
Speaker 1: physical tackles that you know, set the set the tone
Speaker 1: as well, you know, like when you talk about Michael
Speaker 1: Carter's and I had him as my unsun hero on
Speaker 1: my pregame show, talking about how we don't really talk
Speaker 1: about him enough, you know, and I think people don't
Speaker 1: even realize because he's so quiet and you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't give a big place. He just goes about and
Speaker 1: does his business. Yeah, I think we don't realize that
Speaker 1: he's a young player as well. He's only in his
Speaker 1: second year as well, and we don't give him the
Speaker 1: credit because he seems like he's older and wisely, to
Speaker 1: be honest, years everybody here knows how you know, The
Speaker 1: Jets have always had start studied names, but they always
Speaker 1: have unsung heroes rather as Brad Smith, Whether's Eric Smith,
Speaker 1: Whether's Drew Coleman, James Hetty Bowl. So I think Michael
Speaker 1: Carter is a guy that we don't pay enough attention to.
Speaker 1: Dwhite Lowry, you know, we don't pay attention to. But
Speaker 1: he's a name that you can't have this level of
Speaker 1: success without him playing at extremely high level. Because guys
Speaker 1: are gonna start saying, we gotta stay away from saulce
Speaker 1: d J. Reid. I think is that they're gonna say
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're gonna try and attack the safeties
Speaker 1: and coverage, and they're gonna try to attack the corners,
Speaker 1: mean that the nickel and Michael Carter has shown that
Speaker 1: he's one of the best nickels in the game already too,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the best. If not, you know,
Speaker 1: top five, he's definitely up there. If he's not one,
Speaker 1: definitely top five. All right, So what do you make
Speaker 1: of the FC East only division of football that does
Speaker 1: not have a team under five? Patriots and Dolphins three
Speaker 1: and three, the New York Jets four and two, and
Speaker 1: the Bills secured that big road win against the Chiefs
Speaker 1: the playoff rematch there in week six and arrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: concerned a little bit about Zappie Bailey because I feel
Speaker 1: like he may be a better player than Mac Jones
Speaker 1: in that offense. What he's been able to throw the football. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're they're going back to the old school. They
Speaker 1: just run the ball, you know. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: intriguing matchup when the Jets face the Patriots about who
Speaker 1: could win the battle within the trenches, you know, because
Speaker 1: this is about more about anchoring and being able to
Speaker 1: stop a potent run game. You know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: exciting to see how they decided to match up. But
Speaker 1: first first order of business is going out and and
Speaker 1: playing the Denver Broncos team that have, you know, the
Speaker 1: number one defense and all the football and try and
Speaker 1: not let them get right against the Jets. As tonight
Speaker 1: they're gonna go and be on a short week playing
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. You know, maybe the Chargers can beat
Speaker 1: them up a little bit, but you know, you want
Speaker 1: to understand that you have to stay focused because you
Speaker 1: can't get a big win on the road against a
Speaker 1: team like the Packers and then go on land a
Speaker 1: in in Denver, which is a very difficult place to
Speaker 1: play altitude sickness. Not everybody responds the same to it.
Speaker 1: Figuring out that the field is a little slit grass
Speaker 1: is a little longer. Make sure that everything is right,
Speaker 1: and make sure that you can have a guy like
Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson that's struggling, but he can get
Speaker 1: right at any time you don't want to get right
Speaker 1: against you. Why is he scuffling so much? Obviously new system,
Speaker 1: new team, but he doesn't look like the same player.
Speaker 1: So I mean, has he started regression? And for the
Speaker 1: Jets this week on the immediate front burner, how can
Speaker 1: they make sure that he doesn't get right no matter
Speaker 1: what happens to against the Chargers. Well, I always get
Speaker 1: concerned with the Jets when they play a quarterback that's mobile,
Speaker 1: that can run and chooses to run. Because Russell traditionally
Speaker 1: waits to be able to run to start running. I want,
Speaker 1: I hope that they you know, able to keep him
Speaker 1: in the pocket, keep him contained. We talked about earlier
Speaker 1: on the season how they were losing their their their
Speaker 1: laying integrity, giving up edges and gods like Jacoby Brissett,
Speaker 1: guys like Joe Burrow was being able to skate. You know,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a Houdini at times. He can buy time.
Speaker 1: He's a very stout player, even though he's not big.
Speaker 1: He's short and stocky. You know, he's hard to bring
Speaker 1: down and he can make you missing. He is an athlete.
Speaker 1: So I get concerned sometimes when the Jets played players
Speaker 1: like that, because you know that's that other element for
Speaker 1: those off scheduled plays. You know, they have tremendous still
Speaker 1: talent at the at the position, but if they can
Speaker 1: make them one dimensional again. We all know that Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon is a fumble waiting to happen. So I expect
Speaker 1: them to be very physical going at the ball and
Speaker 1: if they can get some extra possessions, you know, on
Speaker 1: the outside, being able to hold forth because the offense
Speaker 1: is gonna have tough sled against one of the best
Speaker 1: defense in the game. You were a member of the
Speaker 1: last New York Jets team that actually one at Denver
Speaker 1: that came in two thousand and ten. That's the last
Speaker 1: Jets team that made the playoffs. The Jets are going
Speaker 1: for a fourth consecutive win on the road. The last
Speaker 1: team who did that wasn't two thousand ten New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Are you seeing Are you seen any kind of similarities
Speaker 1: the way this group can get after you defensively and
Speaker 1: now they're establishing an offensive identity where they can ground
Speaker 1: and pound a little bit. Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I think you kind of hit the nail on the
Speaker 1: head when you talk about the similarities, right, you can
Speaker 1: you know, say, Okay, Dwayne Brown is Damon Woody, you know,
Speaker 1: and and not not to put anybody else in main
Speaker 1: gold and fanticas type of realm, but you know, Bara
Speaker 1: Tucker is one of the best guys. You know, best
Speaker 1: players in the league. You know, length and Umson. Right,
Speaker 1: you can say it's like a Brandon Moore or a
Speaker 1: guy or or maybe like fact, so I can see
Speaker 1: the similarities that they know built built this team in
Speaker 1: the trenches, much like our teams were built in the trenches.
Speaker 1: We had one of the best offensive lines, and we
Speaker 1: had one of the best defensive lines, and we had
Speaker 1: guys on the outside that can make plays. We really
Speaker 1: want to talk about, you know, Braylon Networds. You want
Speaker 1: to talk about, Jericho Contry, you want to talk about
Speaker 1: you know, Santonio Holmes and then we were able to
Speaker 1: get production at the running back position. Guys that can
Speaker 1: take it. You know, Thomas Jones his first year there
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, one of his best career years,
Speaker 1: LT show that he still had jews. So yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're slightly different, but it's a
Speaker 1: lot of similarities by the fact that they were both
Speaker 1: built built in the you know, in the trenches, and
Speaker 1: everything else you know, spawned from that. You know, you
Speaker 1: can say Quentin quinnin uh Quintin Um Williams and myself
Speaker 1: both hit stick guys. David Harris was more um lethargic
Speaker 1: and you know, one of those you know, great thinkers,
Speaker 1: but a playmaker, tackle machine like C. J. Mosley, and
Speaker 1: you know, so you can I can see a lot
Speaker 1: of similar you know, I want to put Salts out
Speaker 1: there as an island yet, but you know, to to
Speaker 1: two great pairs of corners. So I mean, we know
Speaker 1: the recipe and we know the identity, and this team
Speaker 1: reflects you know what um New York's all about, great
Speaker 1: hard work in a relentless effort. All right, so let's
Speaker 1: end here. I need a prediction. Do you think if
Speaker 1: somebody asked you, Hey, you had to put your money
Speaker 1: on yes or no. Are the Jets gonna be a
Speaker 1: postseason team in two thousand and twenty two. Let me
Speaker 1: throw this stad at you. Teams since started four and
Speaker 1: two have made the postseason sixty three point six percent
Speaker 1: of the time. Yeah, I would hedge my bed and say,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they get in as a wild card.
Speaker 1: We know the Buffalo is probably gonna win a division,
Speaker 1: but because of the failure of the f C West,
Speaker 1: because of the failure of the a f C South,
Speaker 1: um and right now, the failure of the a f
Speaker 1: C North. Right, the fact that you know, since Nay
Speaker 1: is in Baltimore tied, but they can't really seem to
Speaker 1: kind of get any traction. I mean, I absolutely believe
Speaker 1: that as possible. But I'll have a better ideal on
Speaker 1: it um after the Buffalo game. Um, if they're able
Speaker 1: to go out there and take care of business, win
Speaker 1: the next two out of three, they put themselves in
Speaker 1: a tremendous position to be able to finish strong. Because,
Speaker 1: like I said about this roster, what I love about
Speaker 1: it is it's not a lot of great players. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of good players, and we have a lot
Speaker 1: of good players, you know, instead of a couple of
Speaker 1: great players. You can you can withstand injuries because this
Speaker 1: league has become about a bottle of attrition as we
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys that have great players, but
Speaker 1: the great players get hurt and now your backup isn't
Speaker 1: as great. So I think it's a testament that you
Speaker 1: can lose to Jamaine Johnson and then plug in a
Speaker 1: Benny Curry and feel like there's certain things that he
Speaker 1: does better than Jamaine Johnson. You know Bart Scott right
Speaker 1: now a slight lean, yes, but still in approving mode.
Speaker 1: He wants to see what the Jets do this. I'm
Speaker 1: still hungry. I don't want to give him a seal
Speaker 1: of approval until Untidy show me a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to put the cart ahead of the horse.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying looking at a big picture. Over time,
Speaker 1: you gotta feel you gotta feel great. You know, the
Speaker 1: first half of the season, you know, the first quarter
Speaker 1: of the season, a little bit going into the second quarter.
Speaker 1: You put yourself in great position to be able to
Speaker 1: to be in the tournament. That's right, and because you
Speaker 1: have so much depth at certain positions, you can withstand
Speaker 1: injuries that other teams can't. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: So but the upcoming game, of course, is at Denver.
Speaker 1: Then the Jets return home and they face the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots before that date against the Buffalo Bills. Interesting
Speaker 1: part of the schedule because after the Broncos you have
Speaker 1: three consecutive games inside the division. The Jets already have
Speaker 1: one division win, but you got New England Buffalo by
Speaker 1: at New England, and now we're gonna know, really, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna know significantly where the Jets stand at death
Speaker 1: on absolutely all right, brother, let's see you soon. M