Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Deepest
Speaker 1: blew It. My zight is like a shark's trend. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's courtesy of Salvador Jolly.
Speaker 2: We haven't done that before. You know what, It's familiar,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, it's relevant.
Speaker 3: My zight is like my zight is like a shark's trend.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, my credit is like a shark site.
Speaker 3: My trend is like a Zark site.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever, we'll modulate, We'll modulate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm jack that over there, Miles, great, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, And uh, these are some of the things
Speaker 1: that are trending.
Speaker 3: Gen z is killing the bar tab Yep.
Speaker 4: You fucking hate to fucking see this, but uh, there
Speaker 4: was a thing going on Twitter yesterday where I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna read this tweet and then we will we will
Speaker 4: talk about the debate that this kicked off. This is
Speaker 4: from at Will's Willie Staley tweeted, got the bar last night?
Speaker 4: The zoomers were all paying with credit cards and closing
Speaker 4: out on every round.
Speaker 2: This is psycho behavior.
Speaker 4: Someone needs to teach these children how to go to
Speaker 4: the bar.
Speaker 2: Okay. So there were plenty of people that agreed with
Speaker 2: this take.
Speaker 4: While many others, especially from abroad, were like, this is
Speaker 4: how you pay.
Speaker 2: For drinks at a bar every time?
Speaker 4: Y And I totally get that tabs can make things
Speaker 4: easier for servers, like I've managed bars. I totally get that,
Speaker 4: like having to run over to your POS system, like
Speaker 4: every transaction can.
Speaker 2: Hold shit up.
Speaker 4: But that would be the one semi valid criticism of
Speaker 4: this I could think of, would be consideration for the
Speaker 4: server or bartender. But what the fuck is wrong with
Speaker 4: not wanting to start a tab?
Speaker 1: Well, you don't get to drink as much mouse, Well,
Speaker 1: can't drink as much as fast, Okay, so that's annoying.
Speaker 2: I definitely need to come to defend the youth here.
Speaker 3: Uh the youth down, well, they don't drink as much alcohol. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is their fucking problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: So when I was their age aka broke as absolute shit,
Speaker 4: I bought each drink because I knew it.
Speaker 2: I knew all like fucking.
Speaker 4: Down to the scent, what every drink was doing to
Speaker 4: my fucking bank account because like the fact that I
Speaker 4: would be.
Speaker 2: Out, I was like, oh boy, we're fucking doing it. Huh.
Speaker 4: And every time I fucking started a tab, I had
Speaker 4: The most buyer's remorse I've ever had in my life
Speaker 4: would be like looking at the bill at then and
Speaker 4: I go, oh, fuck, bro, I don't have fucking sixty
Speaker 4: five dollars to spend on alcohol tonight.
Speaker 2: What the fuck am I doing? So I get it
Speaker 2: from that standpoint.
Speaker 4: And also I tend to be forgetful when I get
Speaker 4: drunk back then, especially so what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of such a thing.
Speaker 4: So I you know, I fucking I've left my card
Speaker 4: at the bar more than I would like to remember.
Speaker 4: So again, paying each time can help alleviate this problem.
Speaker 4: So I still failed to see why people are arising
Speaker 4: at this level of like vitriolic commentary. To label it
Speaker 4: did like kunko regrettable behavior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would Uh.
Speaker 1: I used to bring a flask of vodka into the
Speaker 1: bar with me and then to order and then pour
Speaker 1: it poured in as that was the only time that
Speaker 1: I was able to exercise anything approaching restraint because I was,
Speaker 1: uh what's known as a drinking problem. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: got it. Started out paying for every drink, Great, great idea.
Speaker 3: Do that you're able to keep track of it.
Speaker 1: You get in the habit of not leaving your card
Speaker 1: somewhere and then having to go back the next.
Speaker 3: Day before it's open. What a nightmare. You see all
Speaker 3: the all the little flies.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and you realize how sticky the floor
Speaker 2: has been.
Speaker 3: The whole time.
Speaker 2: You're like and like, what we're not open? Like the
Speaker 2: guy who forgot his card? Oh yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to charge.
Speaker 1: All right, that's fine man, already you didn't realize the
Speaker 1: reason the music is so loud so you can't hear
Speaker 1: your feet sticking.
Speaker 2: To the bar.
Speaker 4: But honestly, the person who was so pressed that they
Speaker 4: had to tweet about it like this comes off off
Speaker 4: as someone It just comes off as someone who's like
Speaker 4: existentially dreading the behavior. Well, it just sounds like too
Speaker 4: that they dread the moment that they realize they are washed, right,
Speaker 4: because the whole thing is like he's coming for them,
Speaker 4: Like someone show these children how to go to the bar,
Speaker 4: as if you're talking about how to go to the
Speaker 4: bathroom or something like.
Speaker 2: Can you show them how to go to the bar?
Speaker 4: I think anyone that has this much time to label
Speaker 4: not opening a tab like with like and being like
Speaker 4: this is something we're talking about.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the behavior you want to avoid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, he's just practicing the fraternity ritual
Speaker 1: hazing mixed in with binge drinking that has never gotten
Speaker 1: anyone in trouble or been a negative And no.
Speaker 2: No, and it sounds like I wonder it was. This
Speaker 2: was tweeted at six fifty six am, too, Willie. So
Speaker 2: you had a lot of you had a lot of thoughts.
Speaker 1: Man, good, look, I wish I had that restraint when
Speaker 1: I was younger.
Speaker 3: Everything would have been better.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you if you're doing every drink on
Speaker 1: the tab check out, good for you.
Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you for that two thousand and eight recession,
Speaker 4: because it truly truly limited my ability to fucking just
Speaker 4: leave earth with substances I had to buy.
Speaker 3: And did a lot of damage O three to eight
Speaker 3: two my solf unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we're here, we're here, We're here, all right.
Speaker 1: Maui is facing a horrifying natural disaster. It's the worst
Speaker 1: natural disaster to hit Hawaii in thirty years. Wildfires have
Speaker 1: just basically engulfed Maui and it's I guess not one
Speaker 1: that I had traditionally associated with the state, But obviously
Speaker 1: everything is different now. Walls of flam and fire in
Speaker 1: every direction. Some of the videos are truly horrifying, and
Speaker 1: I just like I had this experience this morning where
Speaker 1: I went to the website Hawaii News Now that was
Speaker 1: you know, linked off of the front page of the
Speaker 1: Drudge Report. You know, it is the top story on.
Speaker 3: The Drudge Report. They're linking off to Hawaii News Now.
Speaker 1: And like the page is just absolutely fucking choked with
Speaker 1: like banner ads and like pre roll ads, and like
Speaker 1: just this is something that I've like come to just expect, Right,
Speaker 1: it's just like background noise, just the price of like
Speaker 1: doing business on the Internet. But I guess the I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, the book we talked about on
Speaker 1: Monday's episode, the Ministry for the Future, Like that that
Speaker 1: becomes a thing where they like have a more socialists
Speaker 1: Internet where people actually like own their own information and
Speaker 1: you know, just like a bunch of cool ideas where
Speaker 1: you are not a commodity that is constantly being like
Speaker 1: marketed to and.
Speaker 2: Not a feeding frenzy of surveillance capitalism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And so I was just viewing it, you know, as
Speaker 1: we're seeing this horrifying result of climate change happen. It's
Speaker 1: it's both a wildfire and then wins from a nearby
Speaker 1: hurricane combining to do this. It's just it just made
Speaker 1: me realize, I guess again that like, while we take
Speaker 1: it for granted that the Internet is completely.
Speaker 3: Broken and fucked, like, it's not normal.
Speaker 1: It's not like like were there is a possibility there
Speaker 1: is a world where when you go to a page
Speaker 1: to get information about an emergency, you don't have to
Speaker 1: like sit through a Farmville ad to watch like videos
Speaker 1: of the newscasters like telling you what to do, or
Speaker 1: like you don't have to like differentiate the article the
Speaker 1: related articles that are actually about the crisis that you
Speaker 1: were trying to survive from.
Speaker 3: Like there are one, two, three, four.
Speaker 1: Ten, eleven, eleven video articles that are just like choked,
Speaker 1: like just sprinkled throughout this article. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Tommy Chung the horrifying truth about CBD, and it's like
Speaker 1: sponsored content about like his CBD right, oh his is better.
Speaker 1: A lot of tonight iss stuff, a lot of it's.
Speaker 4: Just you know, it's wild because like if you if
Speaker 4: you're actually scrolling the page, the article is actually finishing
Speaker 4: about a third of the way down. If you look
Speaker 4: at the scroll bar, on the side. Everything after that
Speaker 4: is all just horseshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if the US had not entered in nineteen
Speaker 1: forty one, Like it's a map.
Speaker 2: Say wear a sweatsuit for this reason.
Speaker 3: Right, huh, Yeah, it's just clickbait.
Speaker 1: It's just so much bullshit that Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: we live truly live in the era of the bullshit economy.
Speaker 1: And like, I think a lot of this isn't news
Speaker 1: to anyone, but it's more of just like a oh,
Speaker 1: it's worth like stopping and like realizing that it's not
Speaker 1: okay to be living in a world where like you know,
Speaker 1: by the way, like nine one one is like down
Speaker 1: across Hawaii. So I'm like people are going to the
Speaker 1: internet like find out what's happening, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a complete fucking word salad of marketing bullshit.
Speaker 4: Right where again, we're living in a world like where
Speaker 4: we're trying to get vital information that has bearing on
Speaker 4: people's safety. I think something like six people have already died,
Speaker 4: like in the fire and Maui. And then the just
Speaker 4: absurdity of getting like, hey, you want to play this
Speaker 4: Hawaiian farm game farm sim game before you can even
Speaker 4: actually just get to the fucking news clip to understand
Speaker 4: what is happening in your world. Is like a really
Speaker 4: really good example of how we're just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've just trying to get inform.
Speaker 1: It like doesn't need to be like for obvious reasons
Speaker 1: like there this this is a great example of like
Speaker 1: humans serving capitalism, whereas like it's supposed to be that
Speaker 1: like these tools that we create actually serve us and
Speaker 1: help help us solve problems or help us find out
Speaker 1: reliable information during the course of an emergency.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, all right, let's.
Speaker 2: Take a quick break.
Speaker 3: We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about suits, and we're back. And I uh,
Speaker 1: I was curious about streaming ratings like that. That was
Speaker 1: something that you remember, we went through a little patch
Speaker 1: during the pandemic where we're like, well, the only thing
Speaker 1: that anyone's doing is streaming things, right, so let's pay
Speaker 1: attention to that. And there was like an upgrade where
Speaker 1: like Nielsen started tracking this a little bit more effectively
Speaker 1: and then but you just never hear anybody talk about it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just weird to me that like nobody
Speaker 1: pays attention to it. Like so there's for instance, we
Speaker 1: looked at the top ten. The number one show by
Speaker 1: I think at least double in terms of minutes streamed
Speaker 1: this week is Suits.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Suits was canceled in twenty nineteen, and it's still this
Speaker 1: like massive show. And it's just weird that like one
Speaker 1: of the biggest thing, like biggest works of media entering
Speaker 1: people's brain in our culture is doing so invisibly, you know,
Speaker 1: like I guess it's not invisible because they serve you
Speaker 1: ads like on your Roku or you know, if you
Speaker 1: if your Apple TV is like set to do that
Speaker 1: like cycle thing or you're Smart TV, like they'll probably
Speaker 1: show you Suits ads.
Speaker 3: But other than that, like nobody like writes.
Speaker 1: About it that there used to be just a whole
Speaker 1: media economy that was like, well, this is a hit
Speaker 1: show and therefore we like the cast will be on
Speaker 1: the cup of a magazine this week or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so we do have a producer on the show,
Speaker 1: super producer Bee, who is a Suits watcher, and we
Speaker 1: wanted to ask them on to tell us just what
Speaker 1: what are we missing? What is the world missing not
Speaker 1: knowing that Suits is the biggest show since Friends.
Speaker 4: And first of all, people don't realize Bee is fucking cool. Okay,
Speaker 4: is really cool, and they're a musician, they DJ they
Speaker 4: got fucking funky ass tattoos. I'm all that shit cool.
Speaker 4: That shit looked like a hurt, but it's about the art.
Speaker 4: And then so when Bye, when you said I'm back
Speaker 4: on Suits, I was like, what the fuck, babe?
Speaker 2: What is fuck? Wait? What is the appeal of Suits? Exactly?
Speaker 4: Because I always knew it as like a meme show
Speaker 4: that people are like, it's that show. Nobody knows what
Speaker 4: the fuck it's about, but bring us into your world, Bay,
Speaker 4: what's up with Suits?
Speaker 5: All? Right? So I actually watched Suits like when it
Speaker 5: first came out, So I was like waiting for the picture,
Speaker 5: you know, every week, you know, when I.
Speaker 3: Was in school on USA? Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? And then you know, everybody forgot about it
Speaker 5: because like every show, it always like it's good for
Speaker 5: like two seasons, two threes, and then like it gets
Speaker 5: so repetitive, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm not saying this show.
Speaker 5: Doesn't do that, but I think you know what's crazy
Speaker 5: is I feel like I'm reminiscing for a world before COVID.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and you were watching.
Speaker 5: I did, I never really understood, like I guess some
Speaker 5: gen I don't know gen Z or the people after that,
Speaker 5: like I think they actually romanticize the twenty tens. I
Speaker 5: didn't even realize this until I heard about it recently,
Speaker 5: and I was like, what the I feelings in twenty
Speaker 5: tens were so whack, right, you know?
Speaker 2: Right right? Yeah, and not a lot of I don't
Speaker 2: remember a lot about it, not almost.
Speaker 5: It's like, but it's interesting to watch it as like
Speaker 5: a time capsule, you know, because it was it started
Speaker 5: in twenty eleven and then it ended right.
Speaker 2: Before in twenty nineteen, right, and it's like.
Speaker 5: It's just interesting to see kind of the culture, how
Speaker 5: different it was because for them, like weed was like
Speaker 5: the biggest drug.
Speaker 3: That like you know, like Moss was.
Speaker 5: Like selling you know in the beginning, and you know
Speaker 5: that you know.
Speaker 3: That was like so bad character.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like the main character.
Speaker 1: It suits and he and he suits and he deals
Speaker 1: drugs and the drug he deals those weed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you know, like the Williamsburg Hips your Revolution,
Speaker 5: you know, it kind of like it kind of shows
Speaker 5: you a bit of that, you know, And so I
Speaker 5: don't know, to me, it's almost like this world that
Speaker 5: I really wish that we could still be living in,
Speaker 5: but I guess it's not anymore. I feel like now
Speaker 5: in the twenty twenties, like things just seem very like
Speaker 5: way more saturated in color and just like I don't know,
Speaker 5: even like the writing I feel in suits I really
Speaker 5: like because it's like you get people kind of like
Speaker 5: talking together in direct conversation, and it's more about like
Speaker 5: the punchiness of like each line.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Now, It's like I feel like I'm watching a show
Speaker 5: and I'm like I already have ADHD and it's making
Speaker 5: it worse, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, right kind of thing? Got it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That makes sense?
Speaker 6: I mean it.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the shows that I
Speaker 4: would sort of just binge watch mouth a gape were
Speaker 4: like pure escapism for nostalgia, you know what I mean. Like, yes,
Speaker 4: I remember when this show first came out and how
Speaker 4: much I liked it. It's this is soothing rather than
Speaker 4: looking at our current time.
Speaker 2: So well, let me make a cast here.
Speaker 1: Gabrielle mocked, Oh and he's hot, Patrick j Adams, the
Speaker 1: aforementioned Michael Roth, and then Megan Duchess of Sussex is
Speaker 1: how they have it written on the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, piece to that last name, you are now the
Speaker 4: Duchess of Sussex. I mean this is all just kind
Speaker 4: of again, streaming is so big but also so broken
Speaker 4: that Yeah, they're all of these companies are just deficit
Speaker 4: spending to make all this content, and what.
Speaker 1: Good for them to have just a news cycle that
Speaker 1: is like, did you guys know suits is massive?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Because talk about suits because that takes away power from
Speaker 1: them and gives it back to the people who make
Speaker 1: the art.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: And what they did was they completely shifted gears to
Speaker 4: what kind of subscriber growth can you demonstrate month over month?
Speaker 4: And that became the language of Wall Street for these
Speaker 4: these companies. So when they fuck up on the subscriber part,
Speaker 4: that's when you start seeing the punishment come from the shareholders,
Speaker 4: right for being like, well, where's my fucking growth? And
Speaker 4: because it's all completely shifted there, it's just become this
Speaker 4: like you know, as one anonymous executive said, they believe
Speaker 4: it's like quote, it's like the entire system has snapped.
Speaker 4: Another person just has described as I think we may
Speaker 4: be in the world's biggest ponzi.
Speaker 2: Scheme, right, yeah, because it's all we don't know. We
Speaker 2: still don't know what the real numbers are.
Speaker 4: Like there's Nielsen ratings that you can you can glean
Speaker 4: from people having meters on their TVs, but the networks
Speaker 4: seldom or if ever, it's so opaque they can never
Speaker 4: get a view into like how much is actually being
Speaker 4: consumed or not consumed because I know that's a double
Speaker 4: edged sword for sture. That's why they don't really want
Speaker 4: to be open about that either because that would either
Speaker 4: indicate to the creators they're like, yeah, we owe y'all
Speaker 4: a fuck ton of money based on how much this
Speaker 4: shit is streaming, or don't fucking let the shareholders find
Speaker 4: out that it's fucking a fraction of what they think
Speaker 4: the actual viewing time is or so you know. So
Speaker 4: it's uh, and everyone's just kind of caught in the
Speaker 4: middle watching bland as it.
Speaker 1: Seems like it's also a factor of the thing we
Speaker 1: were talking about with the Internet being broken in there,
Speaker 1: you know there there aren't web like people don't use
Speaker 1: like websites anymore. So like the thing I'm talking about
Speaker 1: where like these people would be on the front of magazines,
Speaker 1: like magazines in theory we're supposed to be replaced by websites,
Speaker 1: but like that whole ecosystem is just completely fucked and
Speaker 1: brothers don't exist. So it's just there's like no media
Speaker 1: to do the service of being like here's what you
Speaker 1: guys apparently like, and here's more information on the thing
Speaker 1: you like, and like, here's a story about why you
Speaker 1: like it. It's just like that doesn't that that has
Speaker 1: gone away, Like we've just lost media made for people
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just all like yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: can find the top ten streaming things here on this
Speaker 1: Nielsen website and like that that's basically it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, again, like the whole model just became
Speaker 4: for all these studios take our shit off of Netflix,
Speaker 4: where we were getting wild ass licensing deals already making millions,
Speaker 4: and then putting it on our own platform that we
Speaker 4: now have to spend billions to get off the ground
Speaker 4: programming original content and then hope this shit works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, spoiler alert, it has not.
Speaker 4: And now again all of these austerity measures, because a
Speaker 4: lot of companies are in over their skis with this
Speaker 4: original content, are.
Speaker 2: Like, shit, man, we got to figure out how to
Speaker 2: fucking pay people less, make less.
Speaker 1: And I just I think the biggest problem facing the
Speaker 1: world is that entertainment weekly doesn't exist anymore, I think,
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting at. And oh wow, we don't
Speaker 1: need we need more big entertainment weekly to come back
Speaker 1: and tell us all what is cool?
Speaker 4: I know, because now it's all digital. You know, we
Speaker 4: missed it when you could see the cast of Friends
Speaker 4: and being like Millionaires Forever.
Speaker 1: The Lincoln Lawyer that shows number two overall, and like
Speaker 1: that's an original one, that's like Netflix original ip that
Speaker 1: I don't know, that just doesn't doesn't exist. Like there
Speaker 1: are plenty of streaming shows, like to the Ponzi scheme point,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of streaming shows that might as well
Speaker 1: not exist, right they just like don't they happen. But
Speaker 1: like there's I forget where I was hearing this. Like
Speaker 1: somebody was talking about how, oh it was on the
Speaker 1: John Gabriis podcast Action Boys. They were talking about how
Speaker 1: like they love address Elba and he is in this
Speaker 1: new thing as like a hostage negotiator on a hijacked plane,
Speaker 1: and like it just didn't like that nobody found.
Speaker 3: Out about it. It like might as well not exist.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, they just happened to find out about it.
Speaker 1: And also when they clicked on it, it was like
Speaker 1: ten episodes. It's like a movie premise stretched over ten episodes.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's I don't know, man, it's it's well
Speaker 6: when we are we are in the midst of watching
Speaker 6: it correct itself, so it's I don't know, hold on
Speaker 6: to your butts.
Speaker 2: As Samuel yeah Ackson has so famously.
Speaker 1: Day, I think it makes sense that people are uh
Speaker 1: nostalgic for the twenty tens because I think for a
Speaker 1: while now we're realizing that things have been getting worse
Speaker 1: and worse. Right, I do just want to say one
Speaker 1: quick story about how cool Bay is. One of the
Speaker 1: first team building things that Bay came to was John
Speaker 1: Wick for and wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Yeah you missed that.
Speaker 1: But the there's scenes in Berlin that happened that are
Speaker 1: like in the Berlin club scene, and like there's a
Speaker 1: fun cameo of like Bay. Do you want to explain
Speaker 1: who the person is the cameo of the person who
Speaker 1: you like? You're like, oh, yeah, I know them, they're cool,
Speaker 1: Like I yeah.
Speaker 5: Well so yeah, so there was a cameo of this
Speaker 5: famous bouncer from berg Kin called his name's Spen.
Speaker 2: Wait is this the club that Elon Musk got turned
Speaker 2: away from? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yes, and and now I'm on the list
Speaker 5: so when I got u but yeah, so basically Spen
Speaker 5: he's like one of the legendary bouncers there. And he's
Speaker 5: also like a photographer and documentarian. He's just super cool.
Speaker 5: And yeah he got I guess a role in that
Speaker 5: film too, like dominate somebody, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just very casually like, oh yeah that's Spin, that's
Speaker 2: the home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's the homie right there.
Speaker 5: He did let me in it to Berkin, I did go,
Speaker 5: So that was awesome. I got the okay from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so this is how we say.
Speaker 1: Run now than ever before. Yeah, super yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining and tell us about your Suit's obsession, no, dude,
Speaker 1: the fact that you watched suit. All right, Well, those
Speaker 1: are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday,
Speaker 1: August ninth. We are back tomorrow with the whole last
Speaker 1: episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other,
Speaker 1: be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't do nothing
Speaker 1: about white supremacy, and we will EPECTALELL tomorrow, Bye bye