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Speaker 3: How did this start? Because this is I really I'm

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Speaker 4: What did you do for me to be into it

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Speaker 3: I never ever gave it, even when people are like

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Speaker 4: Off the key offing doing an interview when I when

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Speaker 1: The United States government has an undercover division where they

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Speaker 1: Your brakes, man, everybody slow down once you'd have made it,

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Speaker 1: You gotta mixtape out talking like this man? He got

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Speaker 1: And see, it's unfortunate because it's always too late when

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Speaker 1: that's what we were kicking, right, That's what we was on. Right,

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Speaker 1: If I stood on the business, why ain't nobody the

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Speaker 1: And it's up because all the young that is real dudes,

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Speaker 1: They got to turn their gangster down. They ain't fooling

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Speaker 2: But y'all want to force that down.

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Speaker 1: So Dirk Trout don't have nobody there because the streets

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Speaker 1: On top of that, Dirk is in a situation because

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Speaker 1: what because of the media influence on his case, His case,

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Speaker 1: Even the people that he's been in connection with is

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Speaker 1: Dirk did not do this.

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Speaker 1: These dudes is pushing the other side, and Dirk allowed

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Speaker 1: because there's a high percentage that the jury can be taming.

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Speaker 1: All of these Chicago interviews and all these different people

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Speaker 1: It's so many Chicago dudes run around talking about how

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Speaker 1: then it's really killing going on. Right, All that following

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what's disappointing Dirk more than anything.

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Speaker 1: He thought that, Yo, if I cater to the streets,

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Speaker 1: But if nothing else, my fans will show up. Your

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Speaker 1: saying the quiet thing out loud.

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Speaker 2: Do I believe they got him? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of ways that they can

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Speaker 1: call through this case and help you understand that Dirk

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Speaker 1: tragedy on top of tragedy on top of tragedy, and

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Speaker 1: There has to be some understanding on that. But at

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Speaker 1: tell lies. But I want you to look at the

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Speaker 5: I can't. I can't tell my guy that I'm in

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I feel so shy, and we both though we.

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Speaker 2: Feel the shy, But.

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Speaker 3: I don't ask her about her other guys.

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Speaker 1: I just want to d you the public interest has

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Speaker 1: been taining it there's too many fans that feel hopeless

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Speaker 1: about this because the way the media has betrayed not

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Speaker 1: only Dirt, but the way that the fans have released

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Speaker 1: some of the of the evidence. The credit card thing

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Speaker 2: It's like, that makes sense. He rapped about it.

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Speaker 1: And then you have certain platforms like what we're dealing with,

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Speaker 1: the floor. I think it's better for us to put

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Speaker 1: it on the flow. You'll have platforms like they think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to shame rappers into supporting dirt.

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Speaker 1: This is a counterproductive, counter intuitive way of going about things.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to shame rappers into supporting dirt.

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Speaker 1: If anything, you need to highlight the rappers that do

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Speaker 1: support Dirt. What that does is that incentivizes some of

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Speaker 1: if you come out and you start shaming people intentionally,

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Speaker 1: look away, like who is this man?

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Speaker 2: You think?

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Speaker 1: You feel man tripping? And so if you have a

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Speaker 1: media platform, you're in a position where you can send

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Speaker 1: can send reporters out there every day, no matter what

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Speaker 1: it costs. Had a relationship, you can send people there

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Speaker 1: to cover this case in a way, to bring his

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Speaker 1: fans and let them know we have a spot for Dirk.

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Speaker 2: None of you send the media doing that.

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Speaker 1: All you see when it sat down with and why

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Speaker 1: I be saying, because guess what one of my guys

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Speaker 1: go down, you gonna see us activating a way with whatever.

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Speaker 2: It costs, Let's cover that.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring some eyes to that, not even on no

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Speaker 1: cloud chasing shit when they need it right. So what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, if you got a media platform, you

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Speaker 1: can position people. We're covering Dirk all day on this

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Speaker 1: channel right here, we're creating a channel. We're sending people

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Speaker 1: out there that's on me. Dirk was my man. But

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Speaker 1: this industry don't move like that. And so there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of hollow souls, man that they're incorporating themselves in

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Speaker 1: each other's lives for beneficial reasons. And I think they

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Speaker 1: don't think it's visible, but it's extremely visible for people

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Speaker 1: that's watching. But what I need you to understand is

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Speaker 1: Dirk made a mistake, if you're asking me when he

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Speaker 1: validated that in the public, not even that he done it,

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Speaker 1: but as a rapper, I think Dirk understands perception. And

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Speaker 1: so Dirk gets in a situation where, oh, they trolling

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Speaker 1: me about that, I'm gonna start fighting back because again,

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Speaker 1: like I was telling Thug, the game now has incorporated

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Speaker 1: You now have to deal with media. You used to

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Speaker 1: you can kind of make sure that no hit pieces

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Right now, you have narratives that generate income,

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Speaker 1: of it with the Takashi six 's nine flood and

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Speaker 1: them do and they trolling them online. Right, you gotta

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Speaker 1: remember whatever we were in Vaughn died and Takasha was

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Speaker 1: Like there was some nasty things going on, right, and

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Speaker 1: was interesting to me is that he sat on academics

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Speaker 3: Could you at least you got to give me some clarity, right,

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Speaker 3: because I think you're like, have you played chess before

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Speaker 3: but the mental chess, because I think there's you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of confused people that believe that somehow

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Speaker 3: a way to like use another artist, and I say

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Speaker 3: the understame and be a young boy for promo. And

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Speaker 3: recently I was just bombarded with you know that's a

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? To somebody who I felt

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you no question? I won't Yeah, doing

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Speaker 4: this pro doing this out promo which I ain't even

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, But I feel like he feels

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Speaker 3: he feels you're poking a bear. You said, he's that's

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Speaker 3: his that's that's his problem. What's your issue though, like,

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Speaker 3: because honestly, like I feel like like now it's so,

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Speaker 1: I think this is what academics lack social cues, right,

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Speaker 1: Dirk is basically doing basically saying, Yo, you ain't big

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Speaker 1: enough to squatching nothing like this little one. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got your platform, with your platform, and you're seeing

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Speaker 1: even supposed to be talking to you about this kind

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Speaker 1: of shit. I think that was the mistake. But you

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Speaker 1: done grabbed a dollar for people listening, He done grab

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Speaker 1: ain't even trying to engage with him. He hoping it's

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Speaker 1: throwing him off. But this is so nosy. Ain't nothing

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Speaker 1: throwing him off. You know, a regular See that's what

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Speaker 1: You'll have a conversation with him and you go to

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about that. Man, Now mind, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about your album. Them content, You're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: look it down. They gonna keep going. Yeah, and they said,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna put a hit on him and do this

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Speaker 1: and that. Then they don't got no feel to boy

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Speaker 1: that why you got a stone coach stunt on one

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Speaker 3: Or if there's something that you guys could ignore each

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Speaker 3: other because not everything could be solved? And why do

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Speaker 3: and your boy?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: How did this start?

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Speaker 4: Because this is I really I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I really don't. I really don't know. I don't know

437
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: because what you do, you've met it before? What did

438
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: you do for me to be into it with you?

439
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 4: Like the world thing? This songs back and forth.

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: I think he's I think there's two things that he thinks.

441
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: But you keep saying he, well, I mean a lot

442
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: is his perspective right, because it's a reason why recently

443
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: he at you with a tweet. No, you're right, go ahead,

444
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: because you know ya, he's at you with a tweet.

445
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: He's he's he's basically Now.

446
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: For let me address a couple of things.

447
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: And this is what I'm saying about validating it, because

448
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: some people may not understand lor what you mean when

449
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: you say he kind of validated. I'm gonna show you

450
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: see how he just spoke about that. When you speak

451
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: about these things from that perspective, what are you saying.

452
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: You're saying that you understand the ground rules. How are

453
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: you saying that academics brings up young boy and he

454
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: keeps you. He's saying, I don't have a problem with

455
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: him academics. Damn, it turns into young boy. What he's

456
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: tweeting you and what he's saying is And that's why

457
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, gangs is supposed to check that yo, ay homie,

458
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: don't stir no water looking for no fish on behalf

459
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: of my name. I don't, right, I put you and

460
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: I got love for you, But don't be in front

461
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: of these dudes saying that interpreting what I'm doing. But

462
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: what Dirk says to says what did he do? What

463
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: Dirk is solidifying that he don't understand is the revenge

464
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: aspect of his mentality, like what did he do for me?

465
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: Too?

466
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: Like what did he do? Basically say, if he do something,

467
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, what's what did he do?

468
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: Right? And so then what I'm saying when things like.

469
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: This happen and you go to an interview, even if

470
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: we have to ask the question, you gotta know how

471
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: to say I can't. I don't speak about those kind

472
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: of things. Those things are those things are too close

473
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: to home, man. Or you gotta know how to spin

474
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: out of it. You gotta find a way to spin

475
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: out of it because you validated and if you capping

476
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: it don't matter. That's what you gotta remember. The FIDS

477
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: in the state, they don't mind using some cap and shit.

478
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: They'll use some cappin. Yeah, they'll use you lying on

479
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: your records, lying in your interviews.

480
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: They'll use all that pay attention.

481
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: He basically says, you're either no more scared of him

482
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: or number two him Sketter hte quote using him for promo. Well, scutter,

483
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: who for what do you do? What you go? Know?

484
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: All right, let me let me get to the whole

485
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: situ man with.

486
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: Kwonda, how we live and how we go buy our ship?

487
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: And I'm speaking for the whole Chicago. You ain't there.

488
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck you went there so you made a

489
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: dish and said something about vae. That's why that's why

490
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: I owned with you. You indigit the zero in reality,

491
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: it just happen. What happened like it an'ty and see.

492
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: This is what I don't like about the young boy

493
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: and dirt thing because both of them is willing to

494
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: play ball and that don't never end. Well, it's too

495
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: much money involved. This is what I was trying to tell. Man,

496
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: you got to hold on. Pump your brakes. Man, everybody

497
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: slow down once you'd have made it, slow down and

498
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: go to thinking. Man, I'm talking about high level of shit.

499
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Man up there, Man, I'm talking about high level. It

500
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: be way too many individuals. Dog y'all just be loose,

501
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: y'all too loose Withted man, just too loose with it.

502
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: Bro. It didn't have nothing to do with age, none

503
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: of that ship.

504
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: Just Vaughn put the floor. Vaughn put the floor in

505
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: May on the Marke and that happened. That's a different situation.

506
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: His situation.

507
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: What do you do? Well? What do young boy do for? For?

508
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: For for everybody want me and him think we want

509
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: to kill each other. Okay, I'm giving and by the way,

510
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: I know that I'm not represented his opinion. I'm telling

511
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: you what I think his opinions. I think that because

512
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: of that incident, which is very unfortunate at the end

513
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: of the day, you know, I mean.

514
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: You see, he did clarify that. I'll give him that.

515
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: He clarified that. I'll give him that. But having that

516
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: conversation from that perspective, Dirk posted to shut that down.

517
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm giving my opinion on what his opinion. Well, hold on,

518
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: we don't do secondhand opinions, especially not from a guy

519
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: from you know what I mean, they got a college degree,

520
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: were talking street shit. Vaughn died, this shit seriously got

521
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: blood on it. You ain't never been up close and

522
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: personal with nothing of this magnitude. We shouldn't be having

523
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: this conversation only because you're understanding is limited, not to

524
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: say you can't sit at the cool table if they

525
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: think you cool, because evidentlyy rap sell the cool ticket.

526
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: So if they think you cool, let him think you cool.

527
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you're not in a scenario where you're

528
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: able to benefit, where you able to have these level

529
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: of conversations my opinion on his opinion. And look, a dude,

530
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: act is doing his job. He's doing his content job.

531
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: He's a content creator, so he's doing his job. I

532
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: don't knock him. I think at this point Dirk is

533
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be shutting his down. You know what I'm saying,

534
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Not that we can't talk about young boy, but let's

535
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: talk about what's been proven. Don't tell me your opinion

536
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: on his opinion. Tell me what he tweeted. I respond

537
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: to what he tweeted. I respond to some he said,

538
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna respond to you telling me your

539
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: opinion of their opinion. I ain't even gonna respond to

540
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: his opinion. I'm gonna respond to some facts though. Y'all

541
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: got some facts. What's some facts said? Show me something,

542
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: call me to the carpet. You understand me, and we'll

543
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: push it out. We'll let it be known.

544
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We can upload whatever. Ya,

545
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, let's get to it.

546
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think academics

547
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: is out of his jurisdiction. But if y'all gonna let

548
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: him pull over cars out his jurisdiction, that's on y'all.

549
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah nah, yeah, yeah.

550
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: A Tennessee patrol car can't pull me over in Georgia.

551
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. I don't stop for them kind of

552
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: patrol man. You better get some backup. You hit me,

553
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: pay attention.

554
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: It's changed everybody's lives irreparably.

555
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

556
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: That ship, that ship, that ship, that shift.

557
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 4: When a real when a real gang you know what

558
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: I mean, when a real gangs to get together back

559
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: like like a narrative type.

560
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: I think that's also his opinion too, right. I think

561
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: his thing is that obviously more people love Vine, but

562
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, in that situation, which is a street situation,

563
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: it's a real situation like that, anybody would have done

564
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: the same thing.

565
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I forget what this is thy three. I forgot

566
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: in that runner because if you ask them, what did

567
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: you do? What did he do to Vine?

568
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: Nothing? Okay? Cool? So why are you taken Why are

569
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: you taking full responsibility? Like you just like this. I

570
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: think he's carried on his shoulders because he's feeling that

571
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: his career sales well. Well, I think he feels like

572
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: his career. Kuwando's career has been effected because Quando's a

573
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: little boy. Well, I mean that's why I used to

574
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: I used to have him. I used to have him

575
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: like this.

576
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: Mean Quanto saying sixty third nia Von, Yeah, this video

577
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 4: of this google it now not I ain't have him

578
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: the headline like he was the saying one for saying

579
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: sixty third. So we don't bring hate, you know what

580
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's just to a point where everybody think

581
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: they gotta choose ads bad. It's just to a point

582
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 4: where I think they gotta choose ads. But that's how

583
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: the club of ours or the.

584
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: But are you carrying it like that? Be honest, because

585
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: because I don't feel I really don't care like that,

586
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: like he says, he's blackballed, and also because of people

587
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: who might be you know your boy. If he said

588
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm blackball little he's black ball And I think he

589
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: probably feels like his favoritism, like he went off for

590
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: me simply thinking that your quote unquote industry friends, which

591
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: I guess he lumped me into. He's like, well, your

592
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: industry friends are hating on me or maybe me and Kwondo.

593
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: So because of that one incident that he's looking at,

594
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: do you got.

595
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: The biggest influence in the real I mean like, do

596
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: you got like young boy, do you got the do

597
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: you got a big influence in the generation?

598
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: Now he has a big influence? Yeah, okay, cool. He

599
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: can call and do songs with people we want to

600
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: we wrap well, not everybody. He just rapped a new

601
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: new song, he said. He said Drake turned him now

602
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: that probably hurt his feelings. Clearly heard his feelings. He

603
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: rapped about it. Are you calling around to the industry

604
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: saying if y'all a young boy, we're done? And I'm

605
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: gonna ask you that, especially because there's another situation.

606
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: With anybody that harm my people. I can't wish. I'm

607
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: not into it with you, like if I see you

608
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: ain't saying like off the off of the queue, just

609
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: he I just ain't gonna but his music though and

610
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: might not pure not it's not music.

611
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: It's everybody knows blood on this is academic or not

612
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know, but understand the gravity of blood

613
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: being on this right, It's like, yo, it's just music, bro,

614
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: And I think young boy has a right to feel

615
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: a certain way if he, you know, he feels like Yo,

616
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: they chose they side over there and we was over here.

617
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: It's plenty of rappers out there, though, it's plenty of

618
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: dudes there with each other. Right, That's how this industry is.

619
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: You're know, not our industry play these games like that.

620
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to the Takashi part about the

621
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: slide for Vaughn stuff.

622
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: I was in a tough position with the six nine thing.

623
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: Six nine with somebody who you know, he showed me

624
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: a lot of love, especially early on during his career.

625
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: He happened to get getting be for everybody in the game.

626
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: But I felt like with you and him, and especially

627
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: if especially uh Vaughn passed away, got personal. And I

628
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 3: just remember like even thinking, I'm like, I understand playing

629
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: the media side of you're trying to be mutual. Like

630
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: if you said anything, I'm ann posted, if he sayd anything,

631
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm a post. I just I just don't take him serious.

632
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: But there was moments like I had a conversation with him.

633
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: It's just like that, like I don't think I don't

634
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: take serious like the stuff. I had a conversation with him.

635
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: I said, listen, see they gonna do that. They're gonna

636
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: throw it's called clickbait. But you know everybody gonna talk shit.

637
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: Everybody want to see records, everybody want to a name,

638
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: everybody want to stay popper.

639
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: How did you feel doing that? Because I felt conflicted.

640
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: I never gave an I never ever gave a fun

641
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: even when people are like, they're disrespecting that's your that's

642
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: what it's like. You're bro, bro, you know what I mean?

643
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: So like, but it's like what I'm gonna do.

644
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: You're dumbing hop on into your the key often doing

645
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: an interview when I when I catch you, gonna knock

646
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 4: you the fuck out?

647
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 3: Do you already know what that's happening?

648
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: So it's like I play my game, I just sit

649
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: back watch. I like, I gonna know what's going on.

650
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: Or you just said this is about dirt, that's what

651
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: dirt per post India some shoes. I'm not like, I'm

652
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: not I'm not falling for that ship. Like I know,

653
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 4: it's not like why.

654
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: Don't you engage because a lot of people engage like

655
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: that because it's because that conversation back and like, for example,

656
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: if you tweet somebody who they think you don't like

657
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: right now and say you when I see you, you dead,

658
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: and then you drop a song or you drop an

659
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: album or you whatever, They're like if this is the

660
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: biggest gangs because he tweeted it like the anet, sometimes

661
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: it feeds into it. No, the interesting when you see

662
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: him then he did, guess what they're gonna come see.

663
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: That.

664
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: I look at it, everybody looking at it like the Internet.

665
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it is just get just popping. I'm like,

666
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: I realize, trying to stay out the way because it's

667
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: like the people behind me, the knowledge I got behind me,

668
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: the leaders I got behind me. I try not to

669
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: get into it with people like I'm trying to turn

670
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: all the hate to love so cause it's like it's

671
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: like it's like I know certainly I just can't take serious.

672
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: Like I know, like I can show you receipt, I

673
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: can show you a DM like hey man, I'm gonna

674
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: make it sorry. I'm gonna make him say something he

675
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: ain't mean to say that. They don't go I got

676
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: all it, but it's just be like posted for what

677
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get a being out so close to it,

678
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: So me posting one something you saying you don't want

679
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: no problems after you.

680
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So let me still the

681
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: six nine thing, y'all issue is a little bit just

682
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: kind of Oddum. I think all your issues always, especially

683
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: rap issues, because it's really really I'll be tapped in

684
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: with the people who you might have real issues with,

685
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: and they're all from your city. There's never like some

686
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: rap dudes, you know. I mean, so when I see

687
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: you in a rap dude kind of getting into it,

688
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: I usually kind of look at to see what is

689
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: this about? But you're the six niney thing. There was

690
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: a there was a time he was calling you out constantly.

691
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: I think he felt at that time I'm hotter than Dirk,

692
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: so I could say what I want to say, and

693
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like a little boy. And

694
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, I think he had he had

695
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: said something. I think it was aimed to maybe you

696
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: and Herbal, but it was just like saying they platinum

697
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: in the streets or whatever the case is. They was

698
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: told my first week tales.

699
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: With you constantly because I never I never cared about

700
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: that type of shit. I care about morals, you know

701
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I care about tak't care.

702
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: I care about family, I care about.

703
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: I don't care about album sales, like I really don't

704
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: give it my album sales, Like it don't matter because

705
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: you any rapper up from the biggest to the littleist

706
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: respect me and not like gonna know. I respect now

707
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: that they with me, and I'll put them. I respect them.

708
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: So it ain't album sales. We gonna get to support

709
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: if the music ass, the music ass.

710
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: I know for him he felt once you once you

711
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: got at him with that song with Drake. These don't

712
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: play that little boy in the club. We don't want

713
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: tell rats or whatever.

714
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I need for people to pay attention to how Dirk

715
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: continues to try to take the conversation of me music

716
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: and then he keeps bringing it back.

717
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: This is a constant fight.

718
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: I tell y'all, man, when you had these interviews and

719
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: some of the media shit, bruh. It's his high level

720
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: mental jiu jitsu going on. This is not just an interview.

721
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: It's no I want to talk about this, you want

722
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: to talk about that, and you going that way, I'm

723
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: going this way. He's definitely ignoring what Dirk is saying.

724
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Dirk is talking about the music and the fans, and

725
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: if they think his ass is ass.

726
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the support.

727
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about first week and this and that

728
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: he can hold on back to Takashi. He's doing what

729
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: these media dudes do, dictating the conversation.

730
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: He's controlling the environment.

731
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: That's journalism one on one, that's podcasting one on one.

732
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: I personally felt you shut you shut the chapter on

733
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: going back and forth with him or issues with him.

734
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: I just want to hear from the horse's mouth, like

735
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: what was your overroll thought before it? And then why

736
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: after that song? I've never seen you kind of address

737
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: it again really except for this recent being what you

738
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna TK about?

739
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: Because IM knocking on your teth at your mouth, that's

740
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: all I think I might heat I'm seeing I'm not

741
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: calling to t better man.

742
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't nobody did.

743
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: Why won't you did? Give me a good reason? Why

744
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: won't not did?

745
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: Well?

746
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: I think people thought that's that's that's their situation and

747
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: what they felt about their people.

748
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: What did you do that somebody else ain't ain't doing

749
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: YouTube or on well, A lot of fans thought that

750
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: maybe you just hated him because he cooperated.

751
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: You told I hate all rats, if you if you

752
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: ever told you, ever tell you, I hate you, like

753
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: with a passion, like because that took that took away

754
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: half of my that took way that maybe who I

755
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: am today. That took away half of my Life's like

756
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: telling them my pops and not and that's you know,

757
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying I needed so I was raised by a woman.

758
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: I'm saying with my mama, we're talking to wed so

759
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: I really hate rats with real passions, like I hate

760
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: you bad.

761
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm looking to the camera. I hate But other than that,

762
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: it is like what you do. I don't think people

763
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: realize that like I like it might not. I think

764
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: they thought it was specific to him. Is just you're

765
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: just not a fan of what actually with the song. Well,

766
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: I guess you're saying they thought your feelings were more

767
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: personal to him rather than you're like, yo, I just

768
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: don't know you because you're why. I don't think people

769
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: realize that I see ship from a mile away. I

770
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: don't think people realize that I.

771
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: Have a conversation with truth for five seconds and know

772
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: your way is gonna corporate.

773
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: When he first popped out. Did you think that he

774
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: was like that he was? Did you think he was

775
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: like that? I'm gonna answer truthfully, nah said yes or no?

776
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: Did you think of you like that? Yes?

777
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: I need y'all not to skip over that. That's the

778
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: same mistake Thug made. Now I can man if you're

779
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: a rhyme, and I can tell if you're a rat. Nah,

780
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: And if you go back to me and thug interview,

781
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I try to give him some game on that. Listen,

782
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: they got a whole undercovered division of the FBI. If

783
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: that ship wasn't effective, they wouldn't have it. You can

784
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: go under cover as an officer and get inside of

785
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: some of the biggest organizations in the underworld. And y'all

786
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: think y'all can eyeball whether or not a rather or not.

787
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a skill set. But they're young,

788
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: powerful with money, and they've been right about shit. So

789
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: what happens is your ego gets expanded and it shrinks

790
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: your perspective. You understand, Bruh, Listen to me and hit

791
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: me well. The United States government has an undercover division

792
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: where they go inside the gangs as an officer imitating

793
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: a gang member or a drug dealer, and sometimes they

794
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: get as hot as they can up up the chain.

795
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes they next to the underboss or next to the

796
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: boss and the undercover agents. So understand when I'm saying

797
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: that there's people the undercover thing ain't exclusive to the FBI.

798
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: Some of the undercover yes, some of the.

799
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: Acting like what they relain. Some people don't know what

800
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: they'll go through until they faced with it. And so

801
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: it's just interesting that him and Thug made that kind

802
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: of outlook. And I think they both have learned now that, Yo, man,

803
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: this sh is serious. This shit dead ass serious. Now

804
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: you hear Thug on the interview on this up there podcast.

805
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: What did he say? Man, The people you think won't

806
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: turn on you, man, they'll turn on you. Man.

807
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: The people you think won't go against you, man, they

808
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: will go against you. But what I say, it's always

809
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: too late when you find out he had to be

810
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: sitting on trial and they had to walk his friends

811
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: up to testify against him.

812
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: Right, So you got to think about some of these things.

813
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: I know the answer will be obviously what I'm saying.

814
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: I hung out with them. No, no, no, do what

815
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: you at? So I said no. But because I hung

816
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: out with him, I like, and I saw Daniel and

817
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: I was just like, why don't you show the world

818
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: this instead of with Daniel that's his real name. So

819
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: I saw him. So I was like, this is you, like,

820
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: you know, like get up you had with your friends,

821
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: that this is you a natural environment like the gang

822
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: bang and stuff. But also I'm not a gang banger,

823
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I've never been the gang. So

824
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just I connected with that more. But I

825
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: would have said, now you gonna hate me for tell

826
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: the truth. Don't go here, t play my game.

827
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: We played chess, you play chest No, No, I know

828
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: you get you a couple dollars game back popping a

829
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: little bit, man, talk to You'll talk to you.

830
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: But when you mentioned his name on the song with Drake,

831
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: was that was that deliberate? And did you say I

832
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: never said this name? Well, I know, but when you

833
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: had that, because that bar is like infamous, did you

834
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: say I would never talk about it again.

835
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm talking about all rats. I never I never implcam

836
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: implicate myself to nobody.

837
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Yo, this guy your dir't think he played my games.

838
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: I played my game.

839
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: So no, I'm saying I never said no name. So

840
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: if I say, if I make a rap and say

841
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: what I say, you gonna.

842
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: Say, please do not play that little boy in the

843
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: club because we don't listen to rats. If you all right,

844
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: let me play my games with you too. So, if

845
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: we're in the club right now and the DJ is

846
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: about to play gunn would you let play Gunner? Who Gunner?

847
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: Theyin't gonna do me?

848
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: That's the DJ.

849
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: That's the DJ said, would you play Gunner? Would I

850
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: play gun in the club? Y'all? No? Why'd you follow?

851
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Do you believe that Gunner told that that.

852
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 4: Man I don't shit up and play games man that

853
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: man told if you should have win in there kept

854
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: on my clothes?

855
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, that's what I thought. You were trying

856
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: to reverse it. I'm like, hell no, I'm like I

857
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: just said, Scharedule. I'm like, yeah, I'm like gonna like,

858
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: hell no, I just never. I never. I never, like

859
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 3: I followed. I don't know. I never like why I didn't,

860
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't take that ship Instagram

861
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: all that shit type shit. Serious. But if you're red,

862
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: you're red.

863
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: And if you wind this clip a little bit, I

864
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: looked into the camera and I told you if you

865
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: were red because I love it.

866
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: Did you ever think though, I mean, there's politics to

867
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: it a little bit though, right like you have a

868
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: hit song with them, Like.

869
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna talk like if I got to hit

870
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 6: song with somebody and I'm not even talking about gunn

871
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 6: If I got to hear song with somebody and I'm

872
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 6: ten times platal, I'm never playing on stage.

873
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: If he No, You're you can't hate rest that much.

874
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: I can, I can, I can, I can say right now,

875
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: I can say right now.

876
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: But isn't it beneficial for your career to kind of like,

877
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, just I thot you don't see

878
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: it like I mean, they're from your neighborhood. It's not

879
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: telling on you. And I get it. You know you

880
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: definitely love thug, but it's like it's just like I

881
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: hate Red spirit.

882
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I told you the reason the reason I hate Red

883
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 4: because they get My dad did twenty six years, my

884
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: uncle them did twenty six years.

885
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Everybody's been saying, but what about the thug come on

886
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: and be like, nah, hey I told him to do that. Man,

887
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: don't he just yes, maamed it up? Can't tell me

888
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: the rack? That mean you're red.

889
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: I can't tell me the rec if anything happened to

890
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: here right now, and the mother would be like, man, smirkers.

891
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: Put it on me. Man, I'm in the past. You

892
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: my trade. We sellist. Man, I'm not what the fuck

893
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: you mean I'm doing?

894
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 4: Am I telling them nothing like I say, this shit

895
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: is so serious, like we would be like in jail

896
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: together to the end, Like that.

897
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 3: Is what it is. I think when you have that mindset,

898
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: then you start running too, like and I think this

899
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: is what hip hop been at recently. Everybody's running to

900
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: these Like for him.

901
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: To speak on that publicly, you got to stand on it.

902
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: And so for him to have that level of attachment

903
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: to what now has vanished on it because from what

904
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: we're hearing, like it feels like a couple of these,

905
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: it's like I'm finna get lower and go Man, now

906
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: you still gotta fighting chance. But I'm saying it's always

907
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: too late when you figure out here it is a

908
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: multi million dollars saying yo, man, for I tell on

909
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: the man, give me my portray. I'll be a seller

910
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: forever to the end. These are powerful words from It's

911
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: worth or some shit to the end and we'll be

912
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: sellings forever and all that. That's why I say any

913
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: universe is powerful. Your tongue is powerful. That's what I'm saying. Man,

914
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: see this, this guy right here, he don't operate in

915
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: that rim. That ram whates a debt to even be paid.

916
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: That we've been playing this long in the middle of

917
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the street. That's why sometimes I humble myself, man, you know,

918
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: And I hate this. Sometimes people take me as this

919
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: overbearing character because I'm on the mic doing my job.

920
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: But like, if you catch me in real life and

921
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: show me love, man, I'm a man, I'm gonna be appreciative,

922
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: right because I know, Man, I played I flew close

923
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: to the sun for a long time, you know what

924
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so what happens is you start to

925
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: cherish these moments and you don't want to put that

926
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: kind of energy out in the world. Certain things is inevitable.

927
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't even want to have conversations about them. Somebody

928
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: come telling me, man, don't you know my mama to

929
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: uh Nope, not me, humbing, We ain't even talking about that. Yeah, no,

930
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: we ain't talking about that one. And like we don't

931
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: have a problem with nobody. Man, we don't want to

932
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: smoke with nobody. I don't want a problem with nobody.

933
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: But I think young boy's taking it like you're the

934
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: industry favorite and everybody's on your side. Si, I ain't

935
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: an energy favorite. Well I mean imagine Hi talking to

936
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Drake and Drake it's like, yeah, that's the really with you.

937
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: But I can't. I can really, I can really sit

938
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: up been telling you.

939
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 7: I'm real, Nick, I can really told Drake to say

940
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 7: that you Drake, Oh, you told Drake like your Drake,

941
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 7: you probably took this for to block them, Like I'm asking.

942
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: You that's what she did. I ain't gonna say you,

943
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: that's what just what your job on? Like, well, I

944
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: steal follow from girl I am about taking for the black

945
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: Fred gives.

946
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: Like it's just it's just the principle of it. Like

947
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: where like why did Drake say that because he said

948
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: it on this song recently? Why would why would Drake?

949
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: I say, Yo, I really no issue with you, but

950
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: put dirt so heavy Aless, you're putting president. He told

951
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: you you get triggered by beating ship out of this

952
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 3: little lass man by the slide for varon comments. Still,

953
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't know people so saying they used to say it,

954
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: but you also mentioned a song they be like they'd

955
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: be saying slide for von. I think they trolling me,

956
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: by the way, episode is just fire. I ain't gonna

957
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: lie reason. I just don't see comings on for some

958
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: odd reason. I don't know. Maybe the order you some

959
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: commons a lot. They kind of chilled out a little

960
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 3: bitt know why.

961
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: So the point I was making about the dirt scenario

962
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: is that things like that I believe the Fears are

963
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: using right now against him, is that, Yo, what we're

964
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna solidify that there's rules in

965
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: place that yo, you take one of mine or take

966
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: one of yours.

967
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna try to explain it.

968
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: And what happens is they use these kind of interviews

969
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: and people like Traploord Ross and some of these dudes

970
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: doing documentaries and shockumentaries and all kinds of content on

971
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: these gentlemen. They've created a lane. It's making a lot

972
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: of money. And so for those that have integrity, we

973
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: will participate in certain kind of content. I think it

974
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: compromises people's legal status and time with their family, whether

975
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: it's true or not. And so let me also explain

976
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: a couple of different things that over the last couple

977
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: of days I've been thinking about.

978
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: For people who.

979
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: Do not think they use these kind of interviews, and

980
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: even if they don't tell you in court, they use them.

981
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: They use them for research and investigation purposes. Man see,

982
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: for some people that are so up Tooston intellectually absent

983
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: that they don't understand that back in the day, the

984
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: police used to come talk to complete strangers about shit.

985
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Some shit might have happened on forty third Street. They

986
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: weigh on fortieth Street, did you see any kind of

987
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: red car come by? And you think they won't look

988
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: at a YouTube video and take it for what it's worth.

989
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: Do you know that eyewitness testimony under scrutiny is one

990
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: of the worst available pieces of evidence that you can have.

991
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: The police used to go and speak to people blocks

992
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: and blocks over people that may have been just passing by,

993
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: people that was in the spot that never noticed you,

994
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: and asked them for information because a crime have took place.

995
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: You think they don't use interviews and so you will

996
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: have these conversations. That's why trap Little Ross ain't been

997
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: back on this up there podcast because it's pressure with

998
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: them conversations. You'll have these dudes making these documentaries and

999
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: having these conversations out loud, and they don't many. They

1000
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: ain't listening to me. They got all the money in

1001
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: the world, that's right. They got enough money to listen.

1002
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Like y'all, they don't got nothing else to do. Let

1003
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: y'all do all the work. Let Instagram do all the work.

1004
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Let ring cameras do all the work. Lets the veilans

1005
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: do all the work. Man, there used to be a

1006
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: vice union when I was young. They don't even got

1007
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: that shit no more. If that shit is riding around,

1008
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: it's intentional. They had a vice unit riding every single

1009
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: day when I was a young man, Unmarked cars randomly

1010
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: pull it over. They didn't have much information. They got

1011
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: to try to catch you out in the moment. Nowadays

1012
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: they got more information. They can sit back and let

1013
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: you rock out with your cock out until they want

1014
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: to get at you. But the unique thing about this

1015
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: scenario is I've been watching the WWE documentary on Vince

1016
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: McMahon and there was a guy in there that was

1017
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: a journalist. He was a profound journalist, I mean, decorated,

1018
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: written for so many different and prestigious corporations and magazines

1019
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: and had so many different articles and covered the WWE

1020
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: for twenty five and thirty years in his prime years

1021
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: from his inception. He was just well versed in knowing

1022
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: what was going on with the WWE.

1023
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: So guess what happened.

1024
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: They had a conversation with him in this Vince McMahon

1025
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: documentary and he acknowledged one thing that said that confirmed

1026
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: everything that I've been saying for so long. He said,

1027
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest with you, I'm an informant.

1028
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: Not because I went and testified, but because I understood

1029
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: that when I made a story about Vince McMahon, or

1030
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: I broke a story, I understood that the FEDS would

1031
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: move on it. And so you will have people arguing

1032
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: because they're making content that they're not informants. But the

1033
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: English language has definitions to back up the vocabulary, so

1034
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: words mean things. What I see oftentimes happening is is

1035
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: they confused snitch with witness and with inform it, and

1036
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: informant is just somebody that gives information. And so if

1037
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: you're attaching what could be called evidence to crimes and

1038
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: you're making documentaries out of it, and you're masking it

1039
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: behind journalism. You have to take the position that this

1040
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: gentleman took in the vincement Man documentary that you're informant.

1041
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: Now you're not a witness, And maybe you can argue

1042
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: that you're not a snitch. But a witness gives testimony,

1043
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: informant gives information, and a snitch is directly involved. But

1044
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: when Dirk has these kind of conversations about I don't

1045
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: hear these I don't see those comments no more and

1046
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: all of that, and I get it. He thinks he

1047
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: dancing as good as he can dance. Again, he trying

1048
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: to finish it to be the best rapper. You gotta

1049
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: tell a lie yo, free dirt. He's going through some things.

1050
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: They seeing people are about to cooperate on him. His fans,

1051
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: if you ask me, are facing fatigued. They're reading the

1052
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: headlines the people that he was in business with. Even

1053
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: from a media standpoint, they're not using their platforms at

1054
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: all to help change the narrative, to bring any kind

1055
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: of attention to what's going on with his case. People

1056
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: that he may have talked to, people that he interviewed with,

1057
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: they he locked up, They said fin and he to

1058
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: get out of jail. And run right back to these

1059
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: that they ain't even said free him the whole time

1060
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: they were locked up. Or I spoke with him though, man,

1061
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: and you ain't loosing on me knowing what he's talking about.

1062
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: Use your platform and uplift me. Use your platform and

1063
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: bring and bring attention to how they trying to treat it,

1064
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: or to living conditions or what's going on. Come speak

1065
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: to the folks at the jail, show up at the

1066
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: court office. But see Dirk also got to remember this.

1067
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: He playing with the Fed and he playing with the

1068
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: murder for hire. A lot of times bag up because

1069
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: they say hipping you was not hipping me, really putting

1070
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: them on me. I remember a time where Earth got

1071
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: It used to say that yo, because we stepped in

1072
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: to help. The Feds came got all of us because

1073
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: we stepped in to help Supreme. They tried to hit

1074
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: us with a rico. So you also got to consider

1075
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: that a lot of people got to support you under

1076
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: the table.

1077
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: Because everybody ain't butting up all together.

1078
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Speaker 1: People freshly coming out of prism, still getting themselves together.

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Speaker 1: It's all kind of shit going on in these rap crews.

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Speaker 1: So I tell y'all, there's an ecosystem following these rappers. Man,

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00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: they are businesses, and so sometimes people are afraid to

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00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: support you in public because you're dealing with the fizz.

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00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: And if they start investigating us because they think we're

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Speaker 1: trying to help you, what happens. There's no excuse for

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00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: the media guys who claim to have large platforms not

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: to be speaking on behalf of dirt.

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Speaker 2: It's just no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about one more subject before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here on today's podcast, and that's NBA

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Speaker 1: Young Boy. NBA Young Boy, according to reports, was poured

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Speaker 1: over in Utah and there was some drugs located in

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Speaker 1: the court's Pay attention to.

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Speaker 2: What was reported by the local news Pay.

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Speaker 8: Attention and now to Utah County were a routine traffics office.

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Speaker 8: Nobody rapper NBA Young Boy back in the headlines tonight.

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Speaker 8: Utah Highway Patrol confirms the artist, who lives in Utah

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Speaker 8: was a passenger in a vehicle stopped on I fifteen,

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Speaker 8: but troopers say he is not facing any charges despite

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Speaker 8: drugs found in the vehicle. And Ril Harrison is joining

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Speaker 8: us live from Utah County tonight to explain why Aril.

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Speaker 9: Well, Jamie Heidi. Perhaps even more surprising than the drugs

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Speaker 9: and money found in this traffic stop was the famous passenger,

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Speaker 9: a rapper who's been in headlines for the wrong reasons

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Speaker 9: in Utah before, but appears to be in the clear

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 9: here UHP troopers. A NBA young boy whose real name

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 9: is Controlled Golden isn't in legal trouble this time. That's

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 9: after drugs were seized from a vehicle he was riding

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00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 9: in on southbound I fifteen near American Work on Tuesday.

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 9: We received a tip that it also involved a large

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Speaker 9: amount of money.

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Speaker 5: I do believe there was some money in the vehicle,

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 5: but there were didn't seem to be any kind of

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 5: tie to the drugs or anything along those lines.

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Speaker 9: UHP Sergeant Mike Alexander says the trooper who initiated the

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 9: stop had probable cause to search the vehicle, and a

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00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 9: mail driver and female passenger reportedly claimed ownership of illicit

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00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 9: drugs found inside.

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Speaker 5: In consultation with the Utah County Attorney's office, it was

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 5: decided that charges would be screened against those two individuals

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Speaker 5: for the possession of those illicit drugs.

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Speaker 9: Are you able to share their names?

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 9: Last year, the twenty six year old rapper who owns

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 9: a home in Salt Lake, was accused of prescription drug fraud,

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Speaker 9: in which he paid it fine. He later served prison

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Speaker 9: time for having a gun as a felon. I asked

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Speaker 9: UHP if that could play a part in this case,

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Speaker 9: with him being an occupant in these drugs being present,

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Speaker 9: could there be charges later?

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Speaker 3: To my knowledge, no.

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Speaker 2: I want to clarify a few thing.

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Speaker 3: NBA.

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Speaker 2: Young boy was in this vehicle.

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Speaker 1: They did not arrest anyone, But that doesn't mean that

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: that's the end of that scenario. Oftentimes, at least listen,

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00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm just someone that's talking from my perspective. You know,

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00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: whether I'm right or wrong with just dealing with some

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00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: content and some information and I'm just trying to iron

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: through some of the scenario. But I don't think if

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Speaker 1: you're asking me, I don't think it's wise for young

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Speaker 1: boy to move back to Utah. The state of Utah

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: is not welcoming you with open arms. There's people there

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: that feel like that you ran some sort of scheme

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00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: and you're bringing drugs and guns into that city. And

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Speaker 1: now your pardon and you're a rapper and you're black

1146
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: and you're rich, like, it's just so many things that's

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: up against you. I will move out of Utah. I

1148
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: know you like that space because you got all that

1149
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: space to yourself. But you gotta be careful dealing with

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: these people. They ain't gonna make the same mistake twice.

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain they feel like young boy got off

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: easy in Utah. And so if you're asking me what

1153
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: my ex fertease, they're playing a long game. So what

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to do is at some point

1155
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a warrant, search that house again, hopefully

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Speaker 1: to find a gun, and take him back through that process,

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00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: maybe have him in the state where nobody else can

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: deal with it, some kind of charge. That's why they

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: may be looking into it. What can we charge him

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: with that the fists typically don't pick up, but we

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: can deal with it in our state jurisdiction. And so

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to be extremely careful. And so

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Speaker 1: you alway in Utah, you don't even know the law

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00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: down in there. See that's the thing that money think

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: make you thank you bigger than the program you just man,

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00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: Where can we buy a house that's away from everybody

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: and you end up moving what the laws is way different?

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00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: Well they're locker fifty five years and can't nobody do

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: nothing about it. You got to get the fuck up

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: out of Utah, you know, run it hot round, now

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Speaker 1: sell that property or keep it come back in three

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Speaker 1: four five years, let it cool off.

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Speaker 2: Because that ain't making sense to me.

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Speaker 1: You and if you in a car they find drugs

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00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: in a car and you just got out for running

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00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: some prescription ring with drugs, distributing and getting f make

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Speaker 1: drugs under the guys of being some kind of doctor.

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Speaker 1: They pull you over in the same city with drugs

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Speaker 1: in the car and they don't even charge anybody.

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Speaker 2: Nah, you lying to me? You lying to me.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like that they are prepared to take

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: another route and then taking their time with this one.

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: And we want to get back in that house because

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: we're almost certain that there's gun. But if you got

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: that level of security, you don't need no personal firearms.

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01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: Trust your security gonna handle the business. You know, high

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: black Rock. You understand me. You don't need no fires

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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: But if it was me, I would move out of Utah.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't see me in Utah. I ain't nowhere in the world.

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Speaker 1: I'll still be in Utah playing.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I done came through here hustling y'all in the car. Man,

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Speaker 1: let me get out default town man. Yeah no, man,

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: shitn't me, but I just wanted to get that out.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated averybout it this out that it's tuned in.

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Speaker 1: It's up there podcast. You know, I see y'all in

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Speaker 1: a few days. I got Glasses Malone tomorrow, so that

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Speaker 1: should be dropping this week.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna try to have a conversation and

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: ask some clarifying questions, push them a little bit, see

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Speaker 1: what we can get to. I want us to really

1204
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: really have an intellectual conversation. Hopefully that goes well. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't watched this Zion that Dough Interview, listen to

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Speaker 1: the episodes that come out every Monday and I think

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