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Speaker 1: On this episode of News World, I want to welcome

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Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz. This event was only from my inner

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Speaker 1: Circle members as a benefit of membership. You know, one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted Senator Cruz to join US

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to share a little bit of Senator

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Speaker 1: Cruz's background. He earned his undergraduate degree from Princeton University

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Speaker 1: and his law degree from Harvard Law School. After law school,

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Speaker 1: he clerked for Chief Justice Rehnquist and then worked in

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Speaker 1: private practice. In nineteen ninety nine, he joined George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush's campaign for president as a domestic policy adviser. After

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Speaker 1: working in Washington, d c. At the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: and the Federal Trade Commission during the Bush administration, he

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Speaker 1: moved back to Texas and became the Solicitor General of Texas.

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Speaker 1: In that role, he argued cases before the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: of the United States and defended our freedom of speech,

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Speaker 1: our right to keep and bear arms, and our religious liberty.

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Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, he was sworn in as the United

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Speaker 1: States Centator from Texas. He currently serves on the committees

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Speaker 1: for Foreign Relations, Commerce, Science and Transportation, the Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 1: the Joint Economic Committee, and the Committee on Rules and Administration. Ted,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: and things going on, but I think we almost have

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Speaker 1: to start with this insanity of the armed man who

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Speaker 1: was arrested near Justice Kavanaugh's home. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: comment on that? Yeah, well, Nude, it's great to join

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Speaker 1: you and thank you for your longtime friendship and longtime

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Speaker 1: leadership for everyone who is a part of this newt

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Speaker 1: has been for decades a font of ideas. Simply, he

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Speaker 1: is brilliant, he is creative, he is tenacious. He is

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Speaker 1: someone whose friendship and counsel I value deeply. And so

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Speaker 1: it's great to be with you. And I will say

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Speaker 1: when Heidi and I had the chance to break bread

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Speaker 1: with you and Killiston have dinner in Rome, it was

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Speaker 1: truly an exquisite time when we were there visiting you

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Speaker 1: guys with your two beautiful young daughters, who had a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful time in Rome. It was their first time to

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Speaker 1: Europe and they loved every minute of it. Look, this

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Speaker 1: attempted murder of Justice Kavanaugh is horrific, and a man

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Speaker 1: was arrested in the early hours of the morning near

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Speaker 1: Justice Kavanaugh's home with a gun with a knife. He

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Speaker 1: had Justice Kavanaugh's address. He had stated an intention to

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Speaker 1: murder Justice Cavanaugh. And look, we're at a time where

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Speaker 1: violence is unfortunately more and more common. But this is

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Speaker 1: the direct result of the really unhinged rhetoric from the

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Speaker 1: left and from the Democrats. This is the direct result

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer stood on the steps of the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: and threatened Kavanaugh by name, and threatened Justice Gorsage by name,

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Speaker 1: the urgings of Schumer. And I will say the Biden

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Speaker 1: White House, when given the opportunity to condemn the angry

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Speaker 1: the White House Press secretary, refused to do so and

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Speaker 1: said they should continue going to the homes of the justices.

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Speaker 1: And it is a blatant attempt number one to bully

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Speaker 1: violence and a threat to the lives of the justices

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Speaker 1: our country. It's a threat to the constitution. It's a

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Speaker 1: see in Banana republics, in countries controlled by drug cartels,

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Speaker 1: But that shouldn't be happening in the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: It certainly shouldn't be happening with the Senate majority leader

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Speaker 1: Isn't it correct that the Senate has in fact passed

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Speaker 1: a bill to provide federal protection for the judges. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and at least so far, your successor, Nancy Pelosi, refuses

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Speaker 1: is amazing. This is doubly important because this has been

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Speaker 1: which is the right decision, but quite possibly the most

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Speaker 1: Court decided Row forty nine years ago. Let me pause

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Speaker 1: leak is enormously consequential. I will say very little surprises me,

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Speaker 1: but that leak. I was stunned. I was truly speechless

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Speaker 1: to overstate how fundamentally that erodes the institution, the trust,

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Speaker 1: The senior justice in the majority assigns the draft majority opinion.

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Speaker 1: But when that draft is written, it gets circulated to

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Speaker 1: that has always been kept confidentially. You know. As astonishing

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Speaker 1: a much more dramatic and shocking development than this lunatic

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Speaker 1: threats to justices before, there sadly will be again, although

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Speaker 1: But the leak I believe it is overwhelmingly likely that

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Speaker 1: And actually this lunatic and attempted murderer was a foreseeable,

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Speaker 1: That is the result of years of deliberate politicization of

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Speaker 1: because instead of convincing the American people, instead of winning

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Speaker 1: And so I will say the lea is stunning, but

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Speaker 1: that conclusion overturning rovers as well. When you were a

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Speaker 1: Obviously it doesn't threaten the death of millions of people,

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Speaker 1: but it's that level of secrecy within the Court, the

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Speaker 1: I fear that this has done permanent damage to the Court.

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Speaker 1: One last thing. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't

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Speaker 1: Isn't it for the court to decide to correct what,

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Speaker 1: I would encourage folks to read Justice Alito's draft opinion

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Speaker 1: And it's not a judicial opinion in the ordinary sense

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Speaker 1: And I will say, look, I don't think there has

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