1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Ronan. One of the first things I learned of a 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: young mechanic is car's got to have good tires, it's 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: got to have good front end and steering suspension components. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: And probably the most important our breaks back coming by 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the US back the car Doctor. By nine six O 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: b D two came along, which is the next generation. 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: We basically went from a Windows ninety eight machine to 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: a Windows seven machine. If that, If that kind of 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: puts a better spin on it for you. Welcome to 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open, but I am 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: six and now running. Welcome to the future. I guess 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: maybe um. California Governor. This week Newsome decided that by 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: five he was going to ban ban the sale of 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: internal combustion engine vehicles new to the state of California, 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: and all new vehicles sold in California at beginning in 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: to zero three five the year have to be electric 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what he's watching. He's got to be 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: watching future vision. He must know something we don't know, 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: or that I don't know. And I'm no Listen, I'm 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: no genius on electric cars. I'm just your average American. 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm just and I work on cars. That's how I 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: cut on radio. And you know, I've got a thousand 28 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: and one questions about this. No more, no more gasoline, 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: no more internal combustion engine vehicles in California to be 30 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: sold after Wow, what a headline line. And you have 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: to think of the how. And that's my first question. 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying whether we need to or not. I'm 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: not having that argument, all right. I I have friends 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: in California. I know industry people in California. I've heard 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the stories. Three weeks into the pandemic, back in March, 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: people could stand up in the foothills surrounding l A 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: and see downtown l A clear as a bell because 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: there was no smog. I get that. I'm all for 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: clean air. Don't misunderstand me. But you know telling me 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: that we're not gonna have internal combustion engines, by how 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: will we get there? The how comes into mind I 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: think about the guy who lives in the apartment building. Right, 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: there's gotta be a few apartment buildings in California. This 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: is the state. This is in Los Angeles, this is 45 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: the state. And what if that guy's got an electric car, 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: And what are you gonna drop the extension cords down 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: out the window twenty stories down and plug it in? 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: And what if there's two cars in the family. What 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: if the guy's a collector. What if the guy's got 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: more than a few cars and he needs a parking 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: spot for every car, He won't be able to store 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: that electric car in the barn behind mom's house anymore, 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: like so many classics are kept now, And the impact 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: on lifestyle in terms of just maintaining that so called 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: fleet of cars. Who knows, maybe a model electric vehicle 56 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: in ten years would become a collectible. But how do 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: you collect it and store it if it needs electricity 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: that isn't in a bar and that you know, not 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: all internal combustion engine cars are attached to the house. 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: They're stashed here, and they're stashed there. How will that happen? 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: What will that look like if you're a two car 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: family and you're you've got two parking spaces and your 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: apartment complex garage will you have You'll have to assign 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: parking spaces, but we'll both of those parking spaces have 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: a charging station. And how will California, California build that 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: percentage of charging stations. It's just a how question, Governor. 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: We asked the Governor Tom on the show. We haven't 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: heard back yet. I'm not holding my breath and I 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: don't expect him to because I don't know that he 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: would take us seriously. But I'm serious about it. I'd 71 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: love to talk to the governor about the how and 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: the why. As a matter of fact, being of talking 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: to people, We've reached out the industry experts and of 74 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: course Paul Eisenstein from the Detroit Bureau the Detroit Bureau 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: dot com will be here down around the bottom of 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the hour to talk about it. Paul has written more 77 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: than a few articles, and you know what, I'm open 78 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: minded and you've got to be open minded. Please be 79 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: open minded about this. I'm not saying it shouldn't happen. 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: My question is how will it happen? There's so many 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: bassets of this, where will they get the raw materials from? 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: For the batteries and people are already talking. We've got 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: it up on our Facebook page and I'm watching the 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: conversation very interested. I love what I see going on. 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: You know, people are saying, well, we'll have better batteries, 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: faster charging batteries. Okay, you have to hope, right, I 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: mean you've got to hope. So, because I'm a current 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: technology guy, I can't predict what we're gonna have in 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: fifteen years. And I don't know that we're gonna have better, 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: faster charging batteries in fifteen years. I don't know that 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna find this method of producing batteries that we've 92 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: been trying to do for the past twenty and we 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: haven't been able to really come up with that much 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: more of a better system. I mean, it gets better 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: a little bit every year. But look at the price 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: of an electric vehicle, and this is another how so 97 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: how did the car companies do it? They've they've got 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: a top of the line model six thousand dollar vehicle, 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: and then they've got a lower end model at dollar vehicle. 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Maybe where are we gonna get that entry level vehicle from? 101 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: It's still using electric car technology, and what else will 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: it not have. I recently spoke about an experience I 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: met someone at at at a holiday party of I 104 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: think it was last year. It was the year before 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: now I forget, and she had um purchased a Tesla 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Model three. It started out at thirty five tho dollars 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and then she said. The conversation with the test Less 108 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: salesman was, Oh, you want the good tires, Do you 109 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: want the comfortable seats? Do you want the door panels 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: that actually feel nice? Do you want air conditioning? And 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: she was out the door for about sixty two dollars 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: I think the number was. And alright, so in fifteen years, 113 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: technology is gonna get better and we'll be able to 114 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: bruce that car cheaper. How much cheaper? How? How is 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: it going to happen? And that's what I want to know, 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: And that's what you should know. I want to know. 117 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: That's what you should be asking, how is this going 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: to happen? You know, mandating that we're gonna do something 119 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean it's possible. But he must have and again, 120 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the governor wrote this bill. So I'm gonna point the 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: finger right at him, Governor Newsom. He must have information 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: that we don't have. He must have something special up 123 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: as sleeve that he knows projected, here's what's gonna happen 124 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: in fifteen years. Because I don't see the practicality of it. 125 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: And then I want to know about the economic in act. 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: How is that going to work? Start thinking about the 127 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: major automotive companies in the marketplace today and their economic 128 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: impact to the to the country, to the economy. How 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: will they survive, and will they survive and what happens 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: when they go away? Think of it. We're gonna lose. 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: We lose every major oil company out there, Penn's Oil, 132 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: castrol Valveolene Shell, They're all gone, right, all the oil 133 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: companies that you've come to know, they're all gone or 134 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: they're they're shrunk to former levels, two levels of what 135 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: their former selves were, because we don't need them. We 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: don't have the impact. Because what happens in California, and 137 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: you have to understand this, what happens in California comes 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: east and it rolls across the country. It always has. 139 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: It might take another five years, but you'll watch pretty 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: soon a governor is gonna come up and say, by 141 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: we're not gonna produce electric vehicles in the Midwest state, 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: or we're not gonna sell anything but electric vehicles in 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the Midwest state, and so on. So this isn't just 144 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: a California thing. Ha ha ha. Let's laugh at California and 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: watch them suffer or maybe flourish, whichever way it goes. 146 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: This is how will it happen and what will make 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: it happen? And that's the concern here and that's why 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: round bottom of the hour we're gonna talk to Polis 149 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: and Stein. I don't want to beat the horse any debt. 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: If you have any comments about this, please we're gonna 151 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: be talking about this for the next couple of weeks. 152 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Send me an email Ron at Car Doctor show dot 153 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: com or you can you pick up the phone zero. 154 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, and uh you know, I'm looking 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: for your input. You can get out on the Facebook 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: page join the conversation out there, Ron and any in 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. But by all means, this is something 158 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: that shouldn't go quietly in the night, and I asked 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: you to be respectful of each other. This isn't politics. 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: This is something you know, very specific to all of us. 161 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: How will we get around and you know what will 162 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: that impact be on us, the economy, the country. What 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: does the future look like? That's why I said future vision. 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Somebody's got it. I don't see it like this. And 165 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: the question here is how let's get over to Larry 166 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: in or Lando wants to talk about a two thousand suburban. Larry, 167 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: drive it while you still can. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 168 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: how can I help run? What? What? What a terrific show? 169 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: You helped me out a number of weeks back when 170 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: we were working on doing a radiator replacement on the 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: same car. It's a two thousand Chevrolet Suburban with about 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: two seventy thousand miles on it, and I know you 173 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: have a shop truck that's uh got probably thirty thousand miles. 174 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: But this is the issue that we're totally flummixed by 175 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and we can't get an answer in the factory manual 176 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: or the Haynes. So we really need the car doctor. 177 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: The car has rear heat uh like our heat unit 178 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: for the back of the car. So there are two 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: heater cores, I believe, but we need to change the 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: heater hoses, the rubber ones that go from the water 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: pump to the firewall, and there's a second one that 182 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: connects the water pump, the fire hall and the coolant 183 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: recovery tank. Each of those fittings spit into the heater 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: core with what I would say are t fittings that 185 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: are one's white, ones black. But we can't we can't 186 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: figure out how do you disconnect those fittings from the 187 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: firewall and from the posing connections to the rear heating 188 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: their two plastic tabs. But the instructions we've been able 189 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: to see our inconsistence. Whether you need a special tool, well, 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: you do, you really do need a special tool. Let 191 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Larry, Do you are you going 192 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: to replace those hoses? Yes? And the fittings and the fittings. Okay, 193 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Stay put, let me pull over, 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: take a pause. I've got the answer for you. When 195 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the car doctor returns five zero nine zero Ron eating 196 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: the car Doctor right your service? When I get back, 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: don't go away, creating need advice on how they're maintaining 198 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: that classic g T O. Ron is the guy zero 199 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: zero zero here's Ron. Larry. You're still here, sir, absolutely, 200 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: so here's what you gotta do. Brother. Do you have 201 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: an O Rollyota parts near you? Yeah, okay. Do you 202 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: ever hear of a company called Dorman Dorman Products? Okay, 203 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: go down there and ask them for a because Dormant 204 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: makes this. They make the replacement heat or hose ends, 205 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: all right, and just just look at the end. Or 206 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: do you have the new hoses yet? Do you have 207 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: the new hoses yet? Okay? All right? And they've got 208 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: the quick disconnects on it. Yeah you're sure, yeah, okay, 209 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: because Dormant also makes those quick disconnects. And the idea 210 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: was that if you don't know, if you don't have it, 211 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you want to look at the quick disconnect. It gives 212 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: you the ability to you know, you're supposed to be 213 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: able to squeeze those white tabs and then it pulls 214 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: off once it clears. The problem is, over the past 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: twenty years, corrosion is built up. Things have gotten tight 216 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and sticky, and now the clip doesn't collapse. All right. Now, 217 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: there's a special pliers out there. I believe Lyle makes it. 218 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I think Kad makes a version of it. It's it's 219 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a fat pair of needle nose, 220 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: all right, that are short and stocky, and they actually 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: form right on those clips. Those the white clip inside 222 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the black coupling, and it gives you the ability to 223 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: squeeze the white clip, crush the crud, and then you 224 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: can jerk the hose back. But the hose is probably 225 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: stuck on the end of the nippler the heater core, 226 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: depending upon which hose we're working on. All right, If 227 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: that's an excellent suggestion, I think matt Co makes a 228 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: series of three of those special pliers. What's what's confusing 229 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: with people I've talked to about this other than you, 230 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Ron is a lot of the similar cars from GM 231 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: in that two thousand and two thousand and seven era 232 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: had don't have the heat or hose assembly. And in 233 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: those there's a different fitting on the firewall that you 234 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: have to put a little like a tool, right, like 235 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: a hockey pucklican thing that splits in half exactly icely. 236 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: But this, I don't think you use that on the 237 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: te fitting assembly. No, I don't believe I don't. I 238 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: don't believe you do either. Um. Now, now keep in 239 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: mind if if because I did this on my O four, 240 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: all right, I went through the exact same thing. Now, 241 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: the one thing I want to caution you on is 242 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: did you get your hoses right from GM. Okay, so 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: because because the aftermarket has a version that's similar but 244 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: not close, and you can use the aftermarket version. But 245 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: I believe you had to save the tea. I don't 246 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: think the tea came with it, whereas the g M 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: version either comes with the t or you replace the 248 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: te and it makes life easy. Now what I what 249 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I've also done when I can't get those nipples apart, 250 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: is I will take a long chisel, and I will. 251 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: And you gotta be brave to do this, brother, all right, 252 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: because you're playing with the heater core. Okay, is I 253 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: will take a long chisel, and you you know how 254 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: that white clip sits in the black end of the hose, 255 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and there's those two log tabs that the white clip 256 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: sits against. I will take a chisel and just knock 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: the black part off underneath the white clip and it's 258 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: it's it should break pretty easy. It's it's old plastic now, 259 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: it's twenty years old, all right, and that will give 260 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: you the ability to knock that off. Give the hose 261 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a twist maybe so good with a little p B 262 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: let some PB get underneath there and uh, you know, 263 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: put it under put it under. Um uh, you know, 264 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: get it, let it soak its way under. You'll be 265 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: able to give it a twist and and then it 266 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: should pull off. Cautions the word of the day. But 267 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: take a look at what you got. It's not that hard. 268 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: It's just you're dealing with twenty year old hoses that 269 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: have now built up some cruts. So take a look 270 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: at those. Get yourself a set of those. Um, get 271 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: yourself a set of those pliers, and I think that 272 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: will help you. If you need more, I'm here for you, Larry. 273 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: You give them a call, all right. Yeah, it's it's 274 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: very very important to go slowly when you're doing a 275 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: job like that. It creates issues. Let's move along. Let's 276 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: go to Zeke in Illinois real quick. Zeke, how can 277 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I help you when your BMW today? Sir? Yeah, the 278 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Cernadian thanks two thousand and six BMW M five. Um, 279 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: when I get between forties fifty five an hour, there's 280 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: just a terrible shimmy. Um that. The thing that's got 281 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: me confused is it seems to go away after cars 282 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: run for a while, it's warmed up. At first, I thought, well, 283 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: maybe I've just got some soft spotting and the tires 284 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: obviously pretty soft compound tires on a car like that. 285 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Maybe they're just flat spighting after sitting overnight, but it's 286 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: so severe it's got me wondering that it's not more 287 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: than that. Talked to a local shop. They've suggested that 288 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: the lower control arms perhaps need to be replaced, but 289 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure that added up, so I came to 290 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the expert, who wondered, what you maybe thought, Yeah, it 291 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: does need an alignment. It's pulling to the right pretty badly, 292 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: so I know I need that that is separate and 293 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: apart from it. So first and foremost checking for a 294 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: problem like this, we want to check this car on 295 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: the ground or on a drive on rack, so everything 296 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: is at as at on the ground height, So we've 297 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: got to get it on a drive on rack, get 298 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: it up in the air, and start wiggling and jiggling 299 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: and looking for what's moving, what's soft, what's loose. The 300 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: fact you said it pulls in one direction, zeke, Yeah, yeah, 301 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: the fact that it pulls in one direction tells me, yeah, 302 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: there's some loose warm parts, and maybe the tires are 303 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: contributing to the way that that one warn part is oscillating. Now, 304 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I wonder what would happen if you did something as 305 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: simple as either change tire pressure five pounds in any 306 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: direction um and you know where we you're probably running them. 307 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess at thirty five, maybe drop at the 308 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: thirty Does that change anything? If you go up to forty, 309 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: does that change anything? War does rotating the tires move 310 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: the vibration or you know it depending upon where are 311 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: you're feeling it. Are you're feeling it in the steering 312 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: wheel or you're feeling it in the seat of your pants? 313 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: Does that? Does that move it around a little bit? 314 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: So let's let's leave it there. And obviously I'm not 315 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: saying run the tire pressure that low all the time 316 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: or that high all the time just for diagnostic purposes. 317 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: So why don't we take a look at the vehicle 318 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: on a drive on rack. Let's let's load the suspension. 319 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Let's see do we have a control arm moving? They're 320 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: not wrong, but if the control arm is really that 321 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: warn if we've got a bushing problem, we should see 322 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: play in the arm. The arms should move, okay, And 323 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: then maybe either rotate the tires around or put the 324 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: tires on a balancer. Do they look like they have 325 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: any wiggle and shake to them, not so much for 326 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: balance effect, but to the tires themselves show signs of 327 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: wobble or a bent rim. And I don't think it's 328 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a bent room because it goes away when 329 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: it warms up. But at least it kind of gives 330 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: you a direction to go do those things that give 331 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: me a call back next week, I'll be glad to 332 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: talk to you about further the doctors next constrances. Welcome Mac. 333 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: We're don't nading the car doctor here. You know it's 334 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: no secret what's going on how the automotive world changes 335 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: on a constant, evolving, revolving basis. And I'm gonna get 336 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: right into it and welcome our guest, Paul Eisenstein. He's 337 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: here to tell us about another evolution and maybe a 338 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: revolution as the state of California has made some very 339 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: um strategic or well, they've made some very surprising moves 340 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: towards the electric vehicle. Paul, Welcome backs are always a pleasure. Hey, 341 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: it's great to be with you two. Thanks for having 342 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: me on. UM tell us a little bit what's going 343 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: on in California. Let you take the floor here. Well, 344 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: i'll give you, I'll tell you about California if you 345 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: allow me, I'll put it into a broader perspective, literally, 346 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: a global perspective. So over the last few months, we've 347 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: been seeing the state of California moved very, very quickly 348 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: to shift things to electric propulsion. You may recall, uh, 349 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: not that long ago they said that all forms of trucks, 350 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: well they divided it up by category, but basically you're 351 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: going to be seeing a major shift from delivery vans, 352 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: mid range trucks, and even some long distance trucks to 353 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: zero emission, which can mean either hydrogen power or all electric. 354 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: This past week, the governor signed an executive order that 355 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: would have all passenger vehicles, whether it's your pickup truck 356 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: or your your sports car, go electric by and by that, 357 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: I don't mean it that gas powered corvette viewers has 358 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: to be sold. It means that if you're going to 359 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: buy a new one, uh, starting in the automaker is 360 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: going to have to offer you an electric vehicle a 361 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: new gas vehicle. Paul is sorry, You're right, forgive me. Uh. 362 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: There are so many things going on, with so many 363 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: people changing dates on us. So for example, we're seeing 364 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: this happen all over the world. UH. Britain was planning 365 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: to go all electric by and this past week, UH 366 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it came out that the Conservative Prime Minister is likely 367 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: to announce the next month or so that they're going 368 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: to move it up to We see Norway, China is 369 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: pushing ever increasing numbers percentage of their fleet that has 370 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: to go electric, and they'll probably go all electric there, 371 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: maybe twenty thirty or so. India, UH, France, even Germany, 372 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: the home of the auto Bonn is likely to go 373 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: all electric. And we're seeing a lot of cities around 374 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: the world go all electric. Amsterdam, UH, Berlin, London, Paris, 375 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: even Moscow in Mexico City, the cities you wouldn't expect 376 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: to be doing that. UH. Canada is moving to all electric, 377 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: and Vancouver as well as the whole province of British 378 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Columbia are likely to go all electric probably around so 379 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: California wouldn't be unique. But because of the way the 380 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: standards are written, we probably will see a number of 381 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: other states around the US adopt the same standards. But how, 382 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, my question is how, And I'm not saying 383 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be I agree we need to do something. 384 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: The the the clean air effect, or the way that 385 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: the air was affected to be came clean over New 386 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: York City during the first five weeks of the pandemic 387 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: here on the East Coast was staggering. You could see 388 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: the skyline very clearly. It was just it was obvious 389 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: how the lack of automobiles moving around was was cleaning 390 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: up the air. But how Paul, you know, what do 391 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: you what do you say to the guy that's in 392 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: the twenty story apartment building, he's on the top floor. 393 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: Is you gonna run an extension court out the window? 394 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna have an electric charging station for every car, 395 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: every car. No, we don't need to do that. Now, 396 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I can hear a lot of people going, I don't 397 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: want to drive electric. What what I find amazing is 398 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: some of the people I know who are really geeked 399 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: about automobiles get electrics like Kesla, Model Asks or what 400 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: have you. Uh, and they just go, that's it. That's 401 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: the car I'm driving every day. When you start to 402 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: see the performance, a lot of the electrics are offering 403 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: two and a half second zero to sixty. Uh. We're 404 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: now seeing range increase with every you know every year 405 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: we're going to see the Lucid air them out next 406 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: well actually really on the road in about two and 407 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: they are getting an e p A range that is 408 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: expected to be about five hundred miles on the Lucid air. 409 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: Uh TESLA basically is saying that nothing will come out 410 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: from them going forward less than three hundred miles. Uh 411 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: GM is saying that their target is to try to 412 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: have a four hundred mile range for everything, at least 413 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: with an optional battery pack. Where do you charge, Well, 414 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: the people that own electric vehicles today charge either home 415 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: or office, and many of those people are in apartments 416 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: and they use parking lots that have charging stations. Uh 417 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: we are seeing thousands and thousands and thousands of new 418 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: public charging stations go in. There are now several major 419 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: routes all the way from New York to California, Washington, 420 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: d C. To California that have electric charging stations. Maybe 421 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: not every every exit like you do with gas stations, 422 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: but it's becoming more and more the case. And the 423 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: reality is most people in a day to day world 424 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: will be fully charged the equivalent being fully tanked up 425 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: every day when they head off to work, because you 426 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: can charge at home. Try that with gas car. UH. 427 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: You basically will always start the day on full if 428 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: you have access to a charger, and if you do 429 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: it at home, using the lower rates that many utilities 430 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: are offering, you'll be spending about one tenth as much 431 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: or as little as a tenth as much per mile 432 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: as you do gasoline. You know, at the end of 433 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: the street from the shop in Waldwick, there's a new 434 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: apartment building. It's four stories and there's a parking garage 435 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: underneath with parking for sixty vehicles. So I would have 436 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: to assume if this were California, that the state would 437 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: then make all of those sixty parking stalls capable of 438 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: charging an electric vehicle, right, wouldn't make sense becoming Oh absolutely, 439 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: it's becoming more or at least most of them. UH. 440 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: And going forward, I think California will probably require pretty 441 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: much all new construction every spot. UH. You may see 442 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: a point at which UM at least level two to 443 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: forty chargers become common on the street. UH. And then 444 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: you're going to see more and more gas stations become 445 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: service or electric stations where they may replace one or 446 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: two of their gas pumps with an electric charger. Anybody 447 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: out there, and I can just imagine a lot of 448 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: people listening to us shaking their heads. All I suggest 449 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: as you go to your local dealer where they have 450 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: one of the new generation of electric vehicles, drive it. 451 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: I was a skeptic for a long time. Not anymore. 452 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: These vehicles are phenomenal to drive. And by the way, 453 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: do you want to hear the funny thing about what's 454 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: happening with electric vehicles? We'll tell you what. Let me 455 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause. When we come back. 456 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: Hold that thought, all right, brother, when we come back, 457 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that with Paul i in Stein the 458 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Detroit Bureau, the Detroit Bureau dot com run Eating the 459 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor will both be back right after this. Don't 460 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: go away, Welcome back. We're Eating the Car Doctor. Were 461 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: joined this portion of the hour by Paul Eisenstein at 462 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: the Detroit Bureau. Paul, you were going to tell something 463 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: really great about electric cars, something interesting. You were saying, Yeah, 464 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: here's here's the strange thing. Uh. You know, we have 465 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: tons and tons of electric vehicles coming out and uh, 466 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: just this last week we saw the vokes like an idfour, 467 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the first long range battery electric vehicle from the German 468 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: maker that will come to the United States, and they're 469 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: going to have fifty all electric vehicles in global showrooms 470 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: through their various brands. We've already seen the Outi Etron 471 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: and the Porsche tie Camp. But by mid decade, Porsche 472 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: VW is an empire. We'll have fifties UH four. It 473 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: will have a half dozen UH general motors globally as 474 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: look to have what twenty plus all electric vehicles worldwide 475 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: by But you know, sales are still picking up slowly 476 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: and probably won't really take off till mid decade as 477 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: costs come down, as there are more public charging stations 478 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: and so on. Do you know where the fastest growth 479 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: is expected to be in the next few years, and 480 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm a talking country, I'm talking market segment. What type 481 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: of vehicles are going to see the biggest growth in electrification? Would? 482 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Would you believe the truck side of the business, Well, 483 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: because operating costs are plunging, So you know, the next 484 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: time you see a Amazon Prime truck out front or 485 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: UPS truck, take a look at it. They're probably running 486 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: on gas or diesel now. But I'll bet you that 487 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: if depending on where you are in the country. Uh, 488 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: if if you look outside, you may start to see 489 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: some of those vehicles running on all electric power. Amazon 490 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: has ordered over a hundred thousand all electric vehicles from 491 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: that Detroit based startup called Rivian. And these guys, you know, yeah, okay, 492 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: some of them saying they're trying to be environmentally friendly 493 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: and all. But the bottom line for all these trucking 494 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: companies is how much does it cost me to operate 495 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: per mile? And by charging up overnight in their discount rates, 496 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: by having to by being able to eliminate a lot 497 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: of service, uh, service calls where they're off the road 498 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: for oil changes or other mechanical issues. Because electric vehicles 499 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: are much more reliable, they find that the cost per mile, 500 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: which is how they base what they buy, is that 501 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: much cheaper. And in a few years is electric vehicle 502 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: prices continue to fall, Battery prices are plunging. We're going 503 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: to find out people who buy electric vehicles want to 504 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: be amazed to discover that it's going to probably cost 505 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: them half as much per mile to operate an e 506 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: V as it does to operate a gas car, you know, Paul, 507 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: And we've only got a couple of minutes left the 508 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: You remember our past conversations. I think one of our 509 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: last conversations was that, you know, finding the material to 510 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: make the batteries was difficult, and that it's so expensive 511 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: to mind and and bring have they Have they solved 512 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: that problem yet? Is that why the influx? You know 513 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: that it's it's it's it's going up, or you know, 514 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: are we just hoping? How does that into this? Yeah, 515 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: that's that's a real issue. One thing, they're eliminating cobalts 516 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: form most future batteries, turning to nickel, lithium, even iron 517 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: in some cases. Alan must did his so called Battery 518 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Day for Tesla the other day and claims to have 519 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: new methods for getting lithium. Lithium is very common. Unfortunately, 520 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: most of the lithium that we find in places like 521 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: Nevada and that west is very difficult to mind that 522 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: there are some new procedures that may bring the cost 523 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: down a lot. There's all the lithium in the world 524 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: out there, quite literally, it's one of the most common 525 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: elements on Earth. It's a challenge to just be able 526 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: to get it out of the soil to be able 527 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: to use as batteries. The other thing is we're going 528 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: to see an increase in battery recycling in China. Almost 529 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: of batteries and cars and other recyclable re renewable batteries 530 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: are also being recycled, so you'll actually need less and 531 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: less raw material as more batteries are on the road 532 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: and then get traded back in. Uh. Is it a 533 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: challenge for the time being. Yeah, But just to give 534 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: you a sense, a lot must the other day estimated 535 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: that within three years they're going to be driving the 536 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: cost of their batteries down. Sent General Motors is looking 537 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: at a hundred dollars a kilowatt hour, down from about 538 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty just four years ago. And insiders and 539 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: including uh, well a couple of people all the way 540 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: up near the chairman's level have told me their real 541 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: goal is seventy dollars, which, by the way, at that 542 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: point means the electric vehicle is cheaper than the gas vehicle. Well, 543 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: and I and I get, I get the cost factor. 544 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to do, Paul, if if, 545 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: if you're game, and I appreciate your time, I really do. 546 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: We've got a minute left. I want you to think 547 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: about the next time we get together, maybe and you've 548 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: got the resources that I think you've probably got more 549 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: resources than most people. I know. What is the economic 550 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: impact going to be on the industry? What happens to 551 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: the corner garage in forty years? And where does the 552 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: tool manufacturing company go making the tools to fick you 553 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: know snap On tools. Look how much they're based in 554 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: making tools for mechanics, right. What happens to a company 555 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: like snap On and all the snap Ons that are 556 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: out there. We're not going to talk about it here 557 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: and now, but noodle it. You're you're you know, you're 558 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: really good at this, and you put some information up 559 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: on the Detroit Bureau dot com. Come back here, we'll 560 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: talk about it. And uh, I think that's a future story. 561 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: Is that a deal? I agreed in the way, we'll 562 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: also talk about what it means for workers on the 563 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: assembly line because it's a threat to them too. Oh yeah, yeah, 564 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: this is a great story sometime soon to come back 565 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: and talk absolutely, Paul. I love talking with you, man. 566 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: You've been great and UH, as always, sir, you have 567 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: a good rest of the weekend. Great to be with you, 568 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: have a good weekend as well. Thank you, Paul. Paul 569 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Eisenstein the Detroit Bureau dot Com. I'm run an any 570 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: of the card doctor. We're back right after this. Hang 571 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: backing the car doctor here at zero zero. Keep that number, handy, 572 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: that is seven phone number you can call leave a message. 573 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: Tom Ray, executive producer, will call you back and put 574 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: you in the next live broadcast. As you try to 575 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: answer each and every one of the questions that we 576 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: get a great conversation with Paul Eisenstein. I want to 577 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to once again thank him, and you know 578 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: my concern. I want everybody to be open minded about this. 579 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, I've I've written an electric cars. I don't 580 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: think they're bad some of them. I think they've come 581 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: a long long way, and I'm I have to believe 582 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: it is the future. But my concern is the economic impact. 583 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: How will that affect everything? You know? I try to 584 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: look at it as the how how is this going 585 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: to happen? I can't imagine, as I said in the 586 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: in the conversation with Paul, there's an apartment building down 587 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: the street from the shop, there's sixty parking spots. Are 588 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: they gonna have to convert all sixty parking spots to 589 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: charging stations? Does that mean that Yeah, well, I guess yeah, 590 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: new construction in California will require charging stations, but will 591 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: the existing ones that are there require charging stations? And 592 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: how will that work and to what effect? And you know, 593 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of unanswered questions that make no 594 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: sense to me. And I'm asking the questions now because 595 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: fifteen years is gonna go by very quickly, and I 596 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: want to know what the economic impact is gonna be, 597 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: or what the projected economic pact, because this can't be 598 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, hey, let's go to Disneyland and see how 599 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: long it takes us to get there. Let's let's plan 600 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: the trip right, Let's see what's it gonna take to 601 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: get there, and you know, how are we going to 602 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: get there? And that's my concern. And I don't know 603 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: that anybody's looking at that, because everybody's promising clean air. 604 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: All for it. Everybody's promising you know, more efficient and 605 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: effective and lower cost ways to get around. Hey, I'm 606 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: all for it. Somebody tell me about the effects on 607 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: the economy. Somebody tell me about the effects on the jobs. 608 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Somebody tell me how who's gonna fix the electric car? 609 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: I know they don't break as much. That's the story 610 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: we keep hearing and I don't doubt it, but you know, 611 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: there's just a major impact here. I think it needs 612 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: to be a slower transition. I think it needs to 613 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: be a steadier transition. But I think you need to 614 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: get the people behind it and not have it shoved 615 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 1: down their throats. That's just one guy's opinion. I'm running 616 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: aaming in the car doctor until the next time. Good 617 00:34:51,280 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, She was to 618 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: sp