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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Firm Presents fifteen Minute Morning Show. All right, the fifteen

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Speaker 1: Minute Morning Show podcast. It is Tuesday, April two. We

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Speaker 1: had a great show this morning. Uh Lauren Dangle was

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Speaker 1: the dangle Dangle Sorry is it Dangle? I like Dangle?

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean too, that's not her anyway. She

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Speaker 1: was amazing performing for us, and what a great story.

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Speaker 1: You know what I loved having her on here was

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Speaker 1: and not being afraid to talk about her background. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she is a contemporary Christian artist and she came on

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Speaker 1: here and I didn't I didn't hesitate a second and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, welcome to the show. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that most people who are familiar with you are

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Speaker 1: familiar with you because you are a contemporary Christian artist.

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Speaker 1: And every time he's we talked about religion on the show,

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Speaker 1: people get really nervous. I'm like, why are you getting

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Speaker 1: so nervous about something that's it's so easy to talk

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Speaker 1: about It should be, shouldn't it. Everyone's just walking on

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Speaker 1: eggshells all the time. Now. Yeah, I gotta say, you know,

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Speaker 1: when God, the word God came up, I even was like,

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Speaker 1: but and then I'm like, my my inner voice was like,

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Speaker 1: why are you reacting that way? Stop it question that.

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Speaker 1: What were you going to say? Um? She reminded me

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Speaker 1: like everything about her except that she is such a

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Speaker 1: very like religious, spiritual person of Jenny from Forrest Gump.

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Speaker 1: She did have the quality. Yeah, so I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is so interesting seeing the wholesome side of Jenny

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Speaker 1: was great having her here. And it's like every time

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Speaker 1: we've talked about reading the Bible or something like that,

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Speaker 1: people get really nervous. I mean, it's a best seller

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Speaker 1: that I have one next to my bed right now.

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Speaker 1: Actually had to have by the one with the bigger text,

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Speaker 1: because smaller text I can't see anyway. We shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: afraid to talk about stuff like that, And if you're

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Speaker 1: afraid to talk, if you're afraid to hear about it,

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Speaker 1: I think that's worthy of self discovery. I agree with

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Speaker 1: So I have no problem hearing it from the other side.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. Well, but on the same on the same line,

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Speaker 1: you should not be hesitating and talking about your belief

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Speaker 1: at all. You guys know me, all right? Well, sitting

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Speaker 1: around the table, there's Gandhi, there's Scary, there's the other

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn boy, Dave Brody. You want to change scenes, so

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Speaker 1: you'll be next. There's a great tea, the frank boy.

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Speaker 1: There's Garrett, there's Danielle, and there's straight me. Sorry, that

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Speaker 1: was that puberty. Alright? Who has something you want to

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Speaker 1: bring up at the meeting? Are we talking about religion

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Speaker 1: right now? We can talk about whatever you want. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic, like Danielle too, and like Garrett,

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Speaker 1: and my whole life was an altar boy. You had

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Speaker 1: all my sacraments, communion, confirmation, everything. And then I took

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Speaker 1: a World World Religions class in college, and then I

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people and this isn't a

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Speaker 1: don't know that there's another religion out there that maybe

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Speaker 1: suits your beliefs a little bit better. Don't you believe

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Speaker 1: in your studies of world theology that it seems like

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Speaker 1: every religion that you study has something really truly beautiful

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Speaker 1: Dave Brody, Oh sure, well, I can't you talk to

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Speaker 1: the other Jews in the room? Wait there a holiday

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Speaker 1: wish you not serious about? Stop it? Go ahead, go ahead?

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Speaker 1: let me just give an opinion on religion, not not overall.

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Speaker 1: You got some people were taught some fables and stories

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Speaker 1: we have several wars. What does that mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: well put beautifully said. I just want to know why

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Speaker 1: I jump when I hear the word God. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering. How many people have already turned

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Speaker 1: I've bet a lot of people because we've launched a

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be ultra respectful? Like okay, So there

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Speaker 1: So by bringing that up, that's you know, but back

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Speaker 1: I um, I really like the Lorden Dangles song, and um,

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Speaker 1: the religion doesn't really bother me when it comes to religion,

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Speaker 1: and you know, people's religion, the people's belief that's up

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Speaker 1: to them and to each his own. I don't. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't bother or me. I'm not a Catholic that goes

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Speaker 1: to church. I don't really. I'm not gonna not eat

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Speaker 1: meat on Lent. Uh. You pretend to be half Jewish,

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Speaker 1: I pretend to be out. Yeah, I mean it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I heard her interview today. I thought it was really wonderful,

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Speaker 1: and then that's the end of and then I kind

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Speaker 1: of move on, and then I want to turn the

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Speaker 1: radio one and I want to listen to her songs.

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Speaker 1: So it's not something none of this is like, I

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Speaker 1: don't obsess religion whatsoever. There I think so many of

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Speaker 1: the religions if you really take a look at what

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Speaker 1: they're saying, they're all saying the same thing in slightly

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Speaker 1: different ways. Well, your religion, you said that, it teaches

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Speaker 1: is different ways to get to the mountaintop. My religion

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Speaker 1: down here. Yeah, let those people go. Yeah, sure, and

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Speaker 1: you can get to the top of the mountain. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the irony of it. What you pointed out is

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Speaker 1: that and whatever God or name for God, whatever your

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Speaker 1: religion is, whatever you do on Saturday versus Sunday, what

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Speaker 1: days you eat meat or levin bread, whatever, the ultimate

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Speaker 1: goal is to be a good person. And it's to

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Speaker 1: believe either in some God or some spirituality. And Elvis

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Speaker 1: always says he's spiritual is a belief in something. They

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Speaker 1: all overlap. And yet there's this you know, this wall like, well,

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Speaker 1: you're you're wrong and you shouldn't believe that, And listen,

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Speaker 1: I believe and believe in whatever you want. What I

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Speaker 1: don't I'm not a fan of is when you tell

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Speaker 1: me what I should do and when you tell me

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Speaker 1: I should be your religion because it's so great. You

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Speaker 1: gave me your opinion. You think your religion is great.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have it. But don't knock on my door,

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Speaker 1: don't don't social media me. Don't get me at a

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Speaker 1: party where you're like, you know what you should do this,

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Speaker 1: this would be your your path or whatever that I've been,

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Speaker 1: there's always somebody that's got there. It happened, happened recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's always someone that that that. There are people that listen.

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Speaker 1: There are people that are big fans of whatever the look.

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Speaker 1: I'm a MED fan, right, I don't go up to

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Speaker 1: Yankee fans ago. You really should be a Med fan.

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Speaker 1: You believe what you believe, and that's great. If that

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Speaker 1: makes you happy, that's great. But you do you when

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Speaker 1: it comes to religion, like, it shouldn't be your goal.

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Speaker 1: As long as you're being you're not hurting people trying

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Speaker 1: to love one another. That's what it should be. I

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Speaker 1: love someone from from a totally different belief system teaching

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Speaker 1: me something that makes me better. I'll totally listen to Garrett.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to say something. I've been fired by the church.

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Speaker 1: You got fired So I was a sacristan, which is

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Speaker 1: the person that opens up the church on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Why did you get fired? Because seven am Mass is

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Speaker 1: very early, which means I have to be there at

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Speaker 1: like six thirty. So in high school, waking up at

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Speaker 1: six thirty is very hard. Well yeah twice, So that

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Speaker 1: a shame on that for hiring you back? Was the

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Speaker 1: forgiving party? Well that's the problem. So no, no one

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Speaker 1: forgave me. I got fired, and am I going to hell?

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Speaker 1: You're not going to have the old people were outside

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Speaker 1: You're trying to get what time did you get there

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Speaker 1: there at seven thirty? Was that? Seven? Nailed? It? Were

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Speaker 1: waiting out that the priest that opened the door and

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Speaker 1: then start, Man, we shouldn't couldn't the priest open it up?

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they expect me. My job was to

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Speaker 1: open it so people get in there. You know, they

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Speaker 1: shut a fired je so the show could start all

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Speaker 1: the same way to ruin church, Garrett, I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're so quiet over here, straight and enjoying listening to

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Speaker 1: this conversation. It's nice to hear other people, I hope. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear from from anyone and everyone

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Speaker 1: who wants to have an opinion or show sharing their

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Speaker 1: opinion on this. And you know, we may only have

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Speaker 1: three listeners left at this point, but it's the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We do what we want to do. I really need

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Speaker 1: to look into the Postafarian religion because that seems wonderful. Yes, Postafarian.

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Speaker 1: They worship Posta And I'm all about the universe. Uh huh,

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Speaker 1: me too, you know. And so people look at me like,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean the universe? What religion are you

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Speaker 1: talking about. I'm like, well, you know, the good one.

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Speaker 1: I'm believing that the universe. I did not I did

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Speaker 1: not say that diverse. You guys are a bunch of assholes. Alright, Amen.

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