WEBVTT - Donovan Mitchell, Brandon Ingram, Trae Young … Most Likely to be Traded?

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan, Mitchell brandon Ingram Trey Young. Which of those three

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<v Speaker 1>high profile stars is most likely to be traded this offseason? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the Lakers coaching search, and what

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<v Speaker 1>were the latest adventures that Chris Haynes stumbled into on

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<v Speaker 1>his latest trip to the Big Apple to Madison Square Garden,

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<v Speaker 1>the mecca of basketball. We get into all that next

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<v Speaker 1>here on this League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hour NBIA News. This's you love, Chris Haynes. It's time,

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<v Speaker 2>works time, It's so time. This League Uncut is.

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<v Speaker 3>Underway in a fire.

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<v Speaker 2>This should be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, welcome in to another edition of this League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. Bit of an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>schedule for us as we record on this Thursday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>will be a same day record and post. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this before the big game six in Minneapolis. Nuggets, once

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<v Speaker 1>down two in this series, have stormed back to win

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row, including two in Minnesota. Nuggets with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to finish this thing off tonight, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if the Wolves can win one at home and take

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<v Speaker 1>that series. The most anticipated second round series to a

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<v Speaker 1>game seven, But we decided, because of the schedules that

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<v Speaker 1>we both are following this week, that it would be best, easiest,

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<v Speaker 1>safest for us to get together in the afternoon before

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<v Speaker 1>this game. So we will not be able to talk

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<v Speaker 1>much about that series, but we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. Chris Haynes fresh off another trip to his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite city, New York, New York. We'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but just in general, was it all right? They are?

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<v Speaker 1>They still treating you well in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 3>Treat me, you know, treat me tremendously. They were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to convince me to come to a game seven, if

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<v Speaker 3>there is a game seven, they want me to come

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<v Speaker 3>to that game. As you know, well as you should know, ESPN,

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<v Speaker 3>ABC have Game six and Game seven of the series,

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<v Speaker 3>so I will not be attended. That was officially my

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<v Speaker 3>final sideline game of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking news, your last sideline game of the season, last

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<v Speaker 1>Massive Square Garden berger of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was it for the Knicks or four and

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<v Speaker 3>oh when I cover a game?

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<v Speaker 1>Last hangout with Latrell Spree, Well for the season.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a hero, not just that again. I met Latrell

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<v Speaker 3>Massive Square Garden has been really good to me. Producer Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's going to get on this Stein because

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<v Speaker 3>we told we were going to get to the meat

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<v Speaker 3>and potatoes at the beginning. But I'm sorry, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it's more natural to talk about your travels.

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<v Speaker 3>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Ryan was wrong. This is the more natural show

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<v Speaker 1>because I know where you're going. I think I know

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going with this. Can I just can I

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<v Speaker 1>just say? Is this about meeting another one of your heroes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? It is. How would you know where this is going,

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<v Speaker 3>Stein when you don't have an I G. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you know? I think if you're on I G.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I think it was on Facebook too, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw it there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on Facebook, I did. I did Madison Square.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Man, I saw it on Old Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I yes, I met my favorite player of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm growing up as a killer Trails free Will masson

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<v Speaker 3>Square Garden a few weeks ago. We talked about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But Stein the other day in New York Game five,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man, met my favorite rapper of all time, My

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<v Speaker 3>favorite rapper of all time, the one and only Buster Rhymes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, man, that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>met him, so I had the chance to go talk

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<v Speaker 3>to him. He gave me a hug. Man, I said, Buster,

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<v Speaker 3>I named like five of his albums just to prove

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm a fan, I said, Buster, I was with

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<v Speaker 3>you from the Leaders of the New School Days, from

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<v Speaker 3>from Genesis, the album from When Disaster Strikes to Extinction

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<v Speaker 3>Level Event. I just started naming all the albums. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just laughing and he I said, I'm from Fresno.

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<v Speaker 3>I was one of the rare West Coast dudes that

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<v Speaker 3>was rocking a East Coast cat in Fresno. Buster rhyse,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, Fresno, Hunt Fresno. He said, Man, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>performing in Fresno this weekend, he said, he said, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>He's performing with t Paine this weekend in forres Though,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, ain't this a bouttle bitch, Like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>even gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, I'm hearing that you would have gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that would have been so awesome, man, But nah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was cool. Matt buster Hides took a picture of him. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>everything was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you just run into him or did someone

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<v Speaker 1>introduce you guys or he know he was what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>He was sitting courtside and I had to pass by

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<v Speaker 3>him to get to my seat. He was sitting directly

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<v Speaker 3>by the Indiana Patients bench and I sit behind the

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana Patients bench, so I had to walk past him

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<v Speaker 3>to get to my seat. And I saw him. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he got this got this big old platinum diamond shame,

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<v Speaker 3>big old platinum dimond. You know, you can't miss him.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I saw him and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this is I gotta go like it was doing a

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<v Speaker 3>time out. I'm sorry, y'all. I know I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be working, but I had to. I had to go

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<v Speaker 3>talk to him. Chat went on for briefly for a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>but nah, he was cool. So I had some good

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<v Speaker 3>experiences at message.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you invite him for a burger at halftime? To

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<v Speaker 1>your person, your personal VP of of the a top

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<v Speaker 1>three burger in your life?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, well, let me let me tell you this,

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<v Speaker 3>din Yes it is. And what you're talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>area where the front row fans get to go, that

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<v Speaker 3>is different from the area of where the celebrities get

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<v Speaker 3>to go. So I imagine the room that they get

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<v Speaker 3>to go to, there's no burgers in there. I can

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you that this that's this is where Chris Rock

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Steeler, Oh did you see? You see? I got

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<v Speaker 3>you see? I got Tracy Morgan on our pregame show.

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled that off stole. I pulled that off man.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to give Draymond some ship. And I actually

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<v Speaker 3>tried to call Draymond before Tracy come on, just to

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<v Speaker 3>give him my heads up. Draymond an ascwer. So I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna find out this way. So you know, Knicks fans,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not feeling Draymond right now. So I asked Trace.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Tracy, I'm about to do this pregame show

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<v Speaker 3>inside the NBA. Drey mind is going to be all,

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<v Speaker 3>can you come on and give him some shit? He said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doubting. I want to give him a piece of

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<v Speaker 3>my mind anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that that led to that what a life

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<v Speaker 1>you've led in these playoffs already?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said, like we said Ryan two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>not a single listener to this league uncut would have

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<v Speaker 1>believed that outlandish claim from Chris Haynes that New York

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<v Speaker 1>had passed up Miami as his favorite NBA city. But

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<v Speaker 1>after these first two rounds of the playoffs, between meeting

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<v Speaker 1>your hero Latrell's pretty well, hanging out with Buster Rhymes,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting a top three burger. Now at halftime of

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<v Speaker 1>every game you cover a top three in his life burger,

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<v Speaker 1>We finally do believe that Madison Square has vaulted to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the Chris Haynes Personal Power rankings.

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<v Speaker 4>Stein Haynes, as the old saying goes, the times they

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<v Speaker 4>are a change in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and it happens. Y'all didn't believe me, So

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be sad.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be sad if the Knicks can win one more

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<v Speaker 1>game and go to the conference finals, you won't be

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<v Speaker 1>along for the ride because you have an updated assignment

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<v Speaker 1>in in the conference finals. Can you share that with us?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've been reassigned. So usually I'm the what you

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<v Speaker 3>would call the B crew. You know, you have Reggie Miller,

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Harland, and Ali Leforest. That's like our A crew.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm part of the B crew me Stan Van

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<v Speaker 3>Gundy and Brian Anderson. So T and T has the

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<v Speaker 3>Western Conference finals and so that our A crew covers that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I usually cover the opposite conference. So this

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<v Speaker 3>year is going to be the Eastern Conference. So while

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do sideline as I'm there basically as a

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<v Speaker 3>reporter or a correspondent and I give my reports on

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<v Speaker 3>the inside the NBA from the Eastern Conference. So just

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<v Speaker 3>about a week ago they took me off of that,

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<v Speaker 3>they reassigned me. So tn T is going to have, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I should say, it's going to be on True TV.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be an aut cast show where we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be watching the game live. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be me, Vince Carter, Hall of Fame Vince Carter, Adam Lefko.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be hosting this altcast show on True

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<v Speaker 3>TV watching the Western Conference finals. So that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be an alternative broadcast. You still get the traditional broadcast

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<v Speaker 3>on TNT. So well that's what I'm doing. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>reassigned to that, and you know they asked me for

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<v Speaker 3>want to do it? You know, I say yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 3>good change of pace, to be cool, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>bringing on guests, so we'll have some heavy hitters, some players,

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<v Speaker 3>some coaches coming on during this a hash show. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would encourage everybody, you know, give us a try,

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<v Speaker 3>come tune in to be on True TV covering each

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<v Speaker 3>game of the Western Conference Finals.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, before I react to that, I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>producer Ryan if he hears what I'm here. And Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Haynes is in Atlanta as we speak, checking on his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter who both attend university in the Atlanta area, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet somehow the beeping fire alarm of old from Sacramento

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<v Speaker 1>has made its way across the country and is infiltrating

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. Do I have that correct?

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<v Speaker 4>You do have that correct? So peek behind the curtain.

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<v Speaker 4>We set up our little recording session here. Haines had

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<v Speaker 4>got on just a couple of minutes before you, Stein,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was actually something I almost immediately brought up

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<v Speaker 4>to Chris. I go, you know, you're you're down visiting

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<v Speaker 4>your daughters, and it seems like this smoke alarm issue

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<v Speaker 4>has followed you from Sacramento down into the South area.

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<v Speaker 1>So I predict any moment, any moment now, Prince, the

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<v Speaker 1>official dog of the show, will start barking and the

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<v Speaker 1>doorbell will ring with a pizza delivery. There may not

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<v Speaker 1>be a pizza delivery, surely will all happen in the

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<v Speaker 1>next fifteen to thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I told producer Ride. I was gonna give a

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<v Speaker 3>disclaimer at the the end of the show, but we

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<v Speaker 3>went astray. So I want to apologize everybody my daughters have.

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<v Speaker 3>They are mimicking the bad habits of their father of

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<v Speaker 3>not putting batteries in the smoke detectors of alarms, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they are going off everywhere. There's too they are

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<v Speaker 3>too many in this house. It's like six of them

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<v Speaker 3>going off. I'm sorry. So I told you I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>I will mute my mic when I am not talking.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no need to mute your mic. But I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the least handy person on earth. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>make toast. But you know, my late father, we used

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<v Speaker 1>to say he had hands of gold. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>handyman in the family. And every time he came to

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<v Speaker 1>visit me, I mean I just would hit him with

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<v Speaker 1>a list of please fix this, please fix that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just would have thought, as you're visiting your daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>dad would have taken care of the fire alarm before anything.

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<v Speaker 3>There's too many of them. There is high ceilings. This

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<v Speaker 3>in his house. It would take It's gonna take some time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get to it, stot, I'll get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your vertical can't get you up to those high ceilings.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a ladder.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, these are these are these are There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work to do in this house. We bought this

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<v Speaker 3>house a few years ago. Five bedroom house. We bought

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<v Speaker 3>it from my daughters. But dang, five bedroom. But the

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<v Speaker 3>reason we got five bedrooms because we we told our daughters, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get you a place near campus. But you got

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<v Speaker 3>you girls are responsible for recruiting, so we can make

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<v Speaker 3>a profit. So you know, let's get these rooms filed.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's make a profit. We ain't made a profit yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been two years. We had a room field for

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<v Speaker 3>a semester only. I think that was like the first year.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, I told them, I'm like, yeah, as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as y'all done graduating, this house is going on

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<v Speaker 3>the market asap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's still pretty awesome though, that you're both your daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically go across to the other side of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>but they get to go to school together. That's pretty nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, it saved us a penny. There was actually

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<v Speaker 3>a sister a sister brother special they had at Clark Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>I saved a few pennies, so I appreciate them doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, I'm excited. My oldest daughter, Justice, she graduates

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, and then my daughter Jasmine, who's a junior,

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<v Speaker 3>should graduate next year. So I'm proud of my girl.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm here early. I know it does it does?

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter came here fast, she graduated. Yeah, my daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>my oldest, graduated high school twenty twenty, that pandemic year,

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<v Speaker 3>and she didn't get to have Remember twenty twenty, she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to have a graduation, so she didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>to experience that. So I'm very proud of her, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>getting it, you know, getting this far, and she's finally

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to have an official graduation. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stay here in Atlanta. I'm here early.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna stay here in Atlanta until the Western Conference

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<v Speaker 3>final start for that All Cash show.

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<v Speaker 1>I constantly whine about how fast my kids have grown up,

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like your kids have grown up at

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<v Speaker 1>lightning fast speed. But I can Producer Ryan is just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing things in the background because we have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>New York. We've talked about fatherhood, we've talked about real life,

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about everything except what producer Ryan wants us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about so right now, immediate transition to potential

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<v Speaker 1>trade movement this offseason. The Cleveland Cavaliers, their season ends

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night in Boston. They lose Game five. Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>with no Donovan Mitchell, with no Jared Allen, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were not going to win a Game five on

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's floor. They took the series to five games. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody really expected much more from this Caves team,

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<v Speaker 1>given how much they struggled in Round one with a

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<v Speaker 1>new to the playoffs Orlando Magic team. But now, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the question becomes, has Donovan Mitchell played his last game

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<v Speaker 1>as a Cleveland Cavalier? And you know, the Calves throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, up to the trade deadline in February,

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<v Speaker 1>they swatted away external interest. Teams did call, they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>no part of it. But now it is widely anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the league that if the Cavaliers cannot convince Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell to sign a contract extension this summer, that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to trade him. Because the Cavs only have

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<v Speaker 1>one more season with Mitchell under Cavaliers control. Donovan Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>has a player option after next season. For twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, So twenty four to twenty five that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last guaranteed team control season on Mitchell's current contract. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask it a little bit differently. Donovan, Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Ingram and New Orleans Trey Young in Atlanta. There

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<v Speaker 1>is considerable trade speculation slash anticipation about all three of

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<v Speaker 1>those players. Look into the Chris Haynes crystal ball for

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<v Speaker 1>me and tell me which one of those three players, Mitchell, Ingram,

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<v Speaker 1>or Ice tray On one of those three is most

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be moved before the start of next season.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have to go with domin I'm going with

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<v Speaker 3>Donovan because that's that's something we'd be Yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>with Doblin because that's something we've been hearing all season long.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't something we've heard about over the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>We you know. And let's even take it back further

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<v Speaker 3>than before this season, when he got traded to Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 3>it was loudly known behind the scenes that he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to go to New York. He did not want to

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<v Speaker 3>get trade to Cleveland. So the Cavaliers understood that you

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<v Speaker 3>either had to get you know, there are teams like

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto Raptors. You know I mentioned the Raptors before. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you take a risk on trading for Kawhi Leonard. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kawhi doesn't want to be there, but you do it

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<v Speaker 3>in hopes that you would have some success and then

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<v Speaker 3>you get a whole season or you know, sometimes even

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<v Speaker 3>two seasons to recruit. Basically, you're trying to recruit him

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<v Speaker 3>to stay. And teams that are not a successful team,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're just not a team that players want to

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<v Speaker 3>play for just because of where you are, where you're

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<v Speaker 3>at on the map, then most likely you have to

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<v Speaker 3>take a chance. If you're not one of those two teams,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not a team that's in the sun and

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<v Speaker 3>great weather, great views, or a team that's just having success.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not one of those two situations, then most

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<v Speaker 3>likely a team has to take a chance. And so

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto took a chance. They have success everything when it's

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<v Speaker 3>playing as you're saying, it still didn't work. It still

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work in retaining Kawhi. They got a championship out

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<v Speaker 3>of it, but they wanted to keep him. So same

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<v Speaker 3>with the Cleveland Cavaliers, and I just don't let them

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<v Speaker 3>know that they're going to be able to keep them

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<v Speaker 3>as well. So I say Donovan as long Wooden answer,

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<v Speaker 3>I say Donovan because you know, we've heard for a

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<v Speaker 3>while where he would have liked to have played at

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when he was traded.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Brandon Ingram. He's the one at

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<v Speaker 1>this point as we speak on May sixteenth, He's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that I feel most confident in projecting that his

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<v Speaker 1>team is going to really look at what the trade

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<v Speaker 1>market looks like. I mean, look, I think there's some chance,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the exact percentage would be, that

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<v Speaker 1>all three could get moved. But in Donovan's case, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to depend on whether he's willing to do an

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<v Speaker 1>extension or not. I think Atlanta, after seriously considering de

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<v Speaker 1>Jonte Murray trades at the trade deadline, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>more apt to explore the Trey Young trade market this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason rather than Dejonte again. But because Trey already has

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<v Speaker 1>that two hundred plus million max, it might be more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated to find the landing spot to find the team

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take in all that salary. But these are

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<v Speaker 1>early projections. Like I said, I think there are scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>you can envision in which all three get moved. I

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<v Speaker 1>know in Cleveland there are still people connected to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cavs organization who hold out hope that Donovan Mitchell can

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<v Speaker 1>be convinced to sign the extension this summer. Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>signing an extension to stay, it's a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and more often than not in the modern era, we

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<v Speaker 1>see players take the extensions rather than go to free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Cavs are going to hope that they can

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<v Speaker 1>convince Donovan to re sign. But there's enough doubt about

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<v Speaker 1>it that you might be proven right and there might

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<v Speaker 1>be a more robust Trey Young market then, I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>as we're trying to analyze this on May sixteenth, but

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<v Speaker 1>just again at this early juncture, and it's still early.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the whole league is in Chicago this week

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<v Speaker 1>for the pre draft combine, and that does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways get the offseason player personnel machine cranking.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is still pretty early in the trade process,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think we're gonna need a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more time to fully assess it. I think Cleveland's mindset

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<v Speaker 1>is they're gonna do everything they can. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>explore every possible option to try to keep Donovan Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>They're only going to to trade him if it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>a point where they feel like there is just no

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<v Speaker 1>hope and they can't get him on an extension, and

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<v Speaker 1>that they know if they let next season start and

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<v Speaker 1>it plays out that they risk eventually losing Donovan Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing. So I feel like the Calves are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do everything they can to try to salvage that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and keep Donovan Mitchell, whereas New Orleans, the Pelicans have

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<v Speaker 1>to really look at changes because their main three guys.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a lot of data and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>numbers to support the idea that the Zion Williamson, Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram CJ McCollum trio. The Pelicans just did not flourish

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<v Speaker 1>with that trio on the floor. And when I check

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<v Speaker 1>with other teams on it, there's just no mistaking that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a rising expectation out there around the league that

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans is going to explore the Brandon Ingram trade

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities this offseason, and the Tray Young call is still

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<v Speaker 1>a little harder to me to assess that because now

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<v Speaker 1>that the Hawks have the number one pick. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to figure out exactly what they should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Should they try to move Trey, Should they try to

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<v Speaker 1>move to Jonte again, Should they try to use the

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<v Speaker 1>number one pick in some sort of other deal for retooling.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hawks are still kind of evaluating all their options.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I think I don't want to rule out

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<v Speaker 1>the idea. I mean, we there is a world, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a scenario where all three get moved. I think, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be hard to imagine none of the three moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to think at least one of them gets

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<v Speaker 1>moved this offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about New Orleans and Cleveland, just for a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. On New Orleans end, Brendan Ingram was your

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<v Speaker 3>pick out of the three players selected. And if they

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<v Speaker 3>do MOVEBI, that means they feel really good about somebody

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<v Speaker 3>being able to come in there and fill that rule.

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<v Speaker 3>Trey Murphy that he's ready. Trey is ready. Trey is

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<v Speaker 3>actually going to be one of our guests on an

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<v Speaker 3>all cast show that we do do in the Western

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<v Speaker 3>Conference Finals. He's ready, He's ready to take that next step.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a starter in this league, and he just

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<v Speaker 3>he just happens to play behind brandam Ingram. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's somebody who's you know, salivating at the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>potentially have a bigger role, and he's up for the

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<v Speaker 3>extension this summer. So New Orleans has some decisions to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you give do you give Trey a big extension

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<v Speaker 3>and you keep brandon Ingram there? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense right, you know, so I get you Stein,

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<v Speaker 3>you make some you make a compelling case of why

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<v Speaker 3>b I is your pick to be moved of those

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<v Speaker 3>three players, and it makes all the sense of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But I definitely think Trey, I mean, just his presence

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<v Speaker 3>being there is definitely going to factor in to what

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans decides to do with b I. Now on

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<v Speaker 3>the Cleveland's end, you know, with you know you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Atlanta, they got to figure out things, figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what they're gonna do. Cleveland has a lot to figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach Bickerstaff, Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland and and Donovan Mitchell

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<v Speaker 3>are those two? Can they continue to play together along

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<v Speaker 3>stretches and be successful? They had a pretty good run

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<v Speaker 3>this season. Jared Allen, You know, there there's there's reports

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<v Speaker 3>of complaints about Jared Allen not taking an injection and

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<v Speaker 3>playing and playing in the playoffs, and so as we know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Jared Allen had a rib injury and he

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<v Speaker 3>did not play. And the report came out from the

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<v Speaker 3>athletic that the team I don't think he got specific,

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<v Speaker 3>but members of the team were frustrated that Jared declined

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<v Speaker 3>to get a pain injection to play in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I can add to it, I haven't done

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<v Speaker 3>my own research, I haven't checked in on that, but

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<v Speaker 3>what I can say is that, yes, it is true

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<v Speaker 3>Jared he chose not to get a pain injection. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of the primary reasons why I was told that

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<v Speaker 3>he declined. I don't know if people remember, remember about

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<v Speaker 3>four years ago, Tyrod Taylor, the quarterback, he was the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback of the Chargers at the time. He had some

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<v Speaker 3>busted ribs and the team doctor tried to administer a

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<v Speaker 3>pain injection and accidentally punctured is long. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>what I was told. That was in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>back of Jared's mind at that time. That's a very

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<v Speaker 3>serious situation. And you know, I can't fault a guy

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>for choosing to go that route. I can't faultimate if

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<v Speaker 3>he if he chose to take the pain injection, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know that was that was a primary factor and

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<v Speaker 3>why he decided not to based off of, you know,

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the experience that that they experienced, that tyre that Tyrod

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<v Speaker 3>had with the Chargers and Tyrod ended up suing that

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>team doctor for that as well. So you know, it's

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 3>it's a serious injury, but you know, you have to

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 3>leave it up to each player to choose what's best

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 3>for their body. Now, with all that being said, again,

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland has a ton of decisions to make. It's bigger

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>staff going to be brought back. Is Donovan Mitchell going

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>to be brought back? Ken Evan Mobley and Jared Allen

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>continue to play together. You know, listen, I think they've

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 3>had a had a they've had great success. And I

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 3>think in the playoffs, everybody knows it's all about matchups.

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>So if you can get the right matchup, or you

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 3>can if you can get in the right bracket laying

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 3>in those playoffs, you can see yourself with a path

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 3>to the Eastern Conference finals. Because if Donovan Mitchell and

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Jared Allen, if they were there, I think they can

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 3>give Boston a battle I still say Boston, you know,

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>would would beat them, but you know they have some

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>good competitive games, so you just never know. So I

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of this is overblown, but there are

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>definitely real decisions that have to be made.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to quibble with you on great success.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And look, on one hand, you can say that the

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>pressure on JB. Bickerstaff has been unfair to a degree

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>because this season they have been absolutely smothered by injuries.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>They lost guard Marland and Mobley early and then had

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>their best stretch of the season. I think it was

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>mid December to mid January. But look, Jamie Bickerstaff has

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>been under pressure since the playoffs last season, when the

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Calves did so poorly in that first round series against

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks, going out meekly in five games. The rumbles

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>about his job security have honestly been percolating since the

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>end of last season, and he had to cope with

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it throughout this season. And given all the injuries that

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cavaliers faced and the fact that they ultimately got

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the first round, you could make the case

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that it was too much. On the flip side, they're

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just the Calves did not finish the regular season well,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and they had an experience edge against Orlando. That's the

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>team they clearly wanted to see in the first round,

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>an offensively challenged Magic team, and the Cavaliers squeaked by

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in that series in seven game and not until they

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>fell way behind at home in Game seven. Yes, they

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>got out of it, but it has been a bumpy

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>ride and injuries. We cannot discount injuries as a factor.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Injuries were a massive factor in what a bumpy season

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it was. And if the Cavaliers decide to bring JB.

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Bickerstaff back, one of the factors would undoubtedly be what

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>direction are they going in terms of a replacement. That

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>certainly isn't clear cut. But there's been so much discussed

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>about Bickerstaff's future that it does make you wonder how

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>can he even come back from it? When, you know,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>when there's been so much talk about a coach's job,

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to kind of put that in the past

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and pretend like it didn't happen. But putting aside the

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>whole coaching situation, I think what you said was exactly right.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Question number one is Donovan Mitchell's future. Can they sign

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>him to an extension or do they have to explore

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a trade. Are they forced into exploring the Donovan Mitchell

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>trade market? If they do get an extension done with

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell, does that mean that Darius Garland is for

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>sure going to be traded? I think it's reasonable to

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>assume that there will at least be discussions, and just

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the prospect of that scenario will certainly encourage teams out

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>there that are interested in Darius Garland to make the

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>call and test the Cavs and see how willing they

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>are to talk trades there. And then with the two

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Bigs as well, there's been tons of questions lingering now

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>for seasons with an s about the fit Jared Allen

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>next to Evan Mobley. Do they work together? The way

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Mobley played late in these playoffs, he had some really

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>good games in the Boston Series. Does that encourage Cleveland

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know what, We've got Jared Allen on

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a value contract. They could easily trade Jared Allen and

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>get a lot. There would be a long line of

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>teams interested in him if they decide to move him.

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Do the Calves finally decide, you know what, let's move

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Jared Allen. Let's make Evan Mobley the focus of our

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>front line instead of trying to play those two together. So, yeah,

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you're right, the Calves have so many things to tackle

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and discuss and decide over the next month or two,

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>no question.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well that's an easy segue right there. You're

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about potential coaching moves, coaching decisions, coaching searches. Let's

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 3>get to coaching searches. The Los Angeles Lakers are holding

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>coaching searches right now, and they're going to meet with

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>a few coaches right now. There's still in the preliminary

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 3>stages and it's still to very much the initial stages

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 3>of this search. But Stein tip read off some of

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the names that that are going to get an interview,

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>that's going to get an interview initially as of right now.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, there, there's going to be a lot of interviews

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because I think the most important thing here the Lakers.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>All signs at this point point to JJ Reddick not

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>being available to the Lakers if he's the guy, if

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he's the candidate. The Lakers ultimately choose here until after

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals, and the reason for that is ESPN ABC.

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>A year ago, they let both Jeff Van Gundy and

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark Jackson go. You were talking before about the A

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>broadcast crew and the B broadcast crew for ESPN ABC.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>This season, the A team in terms of their broadcasting crew,

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Mike Breen, Doris Burke, and Doc Rivers with Lease Assaulters

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline, and ESPN ABC was under the belief,

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.439
<v Speaker 1>or maybe we should say the hope, that they would

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>have Doc Rivers for at least one season. I think

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they knew deep down that Doc Rivers would be lured

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>back to coaching. I don't think they expected it to

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>happen before February. Doc Rivers had his next coaching job.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>By the end of January, JJ Reddick was swiftly elevated

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 1>to the A team. So it would be huge egg

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>on ESPN's face if they lose now another member of

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>their Finals team to a coaching job. So within the industry,

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>when you hear people project what's going to happen with

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers, that's definitely a factor that people are looking at.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>The working assumption that the Lakers, if they chose Reddick

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>as their next coach, couldn't even have him until after

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the Finals. ESPN needs him for their Finals coverage, so

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers are going to slow play this. They're going

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk to lots of assistance. There are some former

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>head coaches in the mix, most notably James Barrego of

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. Barrego this past season was the associate head

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>coach in New Orleans. Kenny Atkinson and Golden State is

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>another former head coach who's on the Lakers list. Then

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you have assistants like Sam Cassell from Boston, Chris Quinn

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>from Miami, David Adelman from Denver, Mike and Nori from Minnesota,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and I suspect there will be more, and I might

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>even be forgetting a name or two, but the Lakers

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>are going to move deliberately. They're going to talk to

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. If you've forced me right now

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to pinpoint a favorite based on everyone I've talked to,

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>based on people I've spoken to in Chicago at the

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>pre draft, combine what's buzzing around there the early favorite.

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>If you were insistent that we had to choose one today,

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>if producer Ryan refuses to let us publish this podcast

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>without identifying an early favorite, it would be JJ Reddick.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 1>But there is a whole interview process to go through,

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and my read on it is I do think both

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam Kassel and James Brego will also be strongly considered

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for this job, and then we'll have to see if

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>there are any other curveballs that emerge during the search process.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm very high on Sam Cassel and Chris Quinn, and

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>that is not to diminish any other candidates in this pool,

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>but Chris Quinn and Sam Cassel are two assistants that

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 3>have been primed for the role of a head coach

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 3>in the NBA, and you know, just just thinking about

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>what the Lakers present and what they're trying to do

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 3>right now, I think those two candidates makes sense those

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's rare that was It used to be

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 3>rare that an assistant coach who's never been a head

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>coach will get a job where there's championship expectations from

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>day one, But that landscape has changed over the last

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 3>five or six years now, so we're seeing scenarios like

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that playout. And I think those two are really great candidates.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So I hope the Lakers really do their due diligence

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 3>on those two like they're doing with JJ and everyone else.

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no matter how you slice it with this

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Lakers search, there is not a guy that just makes

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>home run. Since you know that candidate is not out

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>there for this team, usually you will want to have

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>a veteran head coach who's had some success, possibly even

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 3>had a championship, coach the team to a championship, but

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 3>definitely had a lot of success, experience in dealing with superstars,

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 3>experience of different dealing with different personalities. That coach is

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>not out there, So you know, I don't know's you know.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I like to think that the Lakers already knew who

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>they wanted in the back of their mind before they

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 3>fired coach Ham. Hopefully they're not just going through the

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 3>motions right now and being going to end up with whoever,

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, whoever gave the best interview, because it's whoever

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 3>you hire this this hire would likely be scrutinized. Whoever

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 3>it is. You know, if it's an assistant coach, well

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>there's no experience. How can he tell Lebron and Ad

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 3>what to do? If it's JJ Riddick, Oh it's Lebron's

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 3>podcast partner, you know, whoever gets this job is going

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>to be scrutinized. So you know, hopefully whoever gets it

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 3>can do a good job, but you know, just it's

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 3>going to be tough. So I'll just say that whoever

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 3>gets the job is going to be going to have

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 3>a tough seat.

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, I think there's no question that JJ Reddick

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>already does have fans within the Lakers organization. But he's

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>never coached anywhere but his son's youth basketball team. He

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>really has no coaching experience whatsoever. And yes, he has

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the relationship with Lebron, maybe even the closest relationship with

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Lebron when we talk about all the names or in

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>consideration now, but on that basis alone, to step into

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the most high profile coaching jobs, not just

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA but anywhere on the sports map, that

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>might be too much to ask. When I look at

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Sam Cassell, I think it's very similar to the circumstances

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>when Darvin Ham was hired. Okay, Sam Cassell has not

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>been a head coach in this league, but he's been

0:39:55.640 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>an assistant for fifteen seasons on some really good staffs.

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>He's way overdue for a coaching job. Darvin Ham, it

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>took too long before he got his first shot. It's

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>taken way too long for Sam Cassell. He should have

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 1>had a head coaching opportunity by now, and I think

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it's worth pointing out, as I reported earlier this week,

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Sam Cassell is a clutch Sports client if that stuff

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>matters to you, just like both Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And one more footnote on Sam Cassell if he does

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>not get the Laker job, I'm told that Doc Rivers

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>really wants Sam back with him. He would love to

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>bring him to Milwaukee. We'll see if the Bucks would

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to pull that off. But Sam, for almost

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>two thirds of his coaching career has been on the

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>bench with Doc Rivers, either with the Clippers or Philly.

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So Doc Rivers, i'm told, would love to reunite with

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Sam Cassell and bring him to his Buck staff if

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Sam is unsuccessful in getting the Lakers job. James Barrego

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>is another very highly rated assistant coach who of course

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>has already been a head coach in this league more

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>than once Orlando and Charlotte, and I think James Barrego

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>has to be taken very seriously in this search. And

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Chris Quinn another highly rated assistant. He

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>comes from the Heat program, which is as highly rated

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and as respected an organization as there is. And Chris Quinn,

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, okay, he missed interacting with Lebron as

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 1>both a player and a coach. He narrowly missed out

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>on playing with or coaching Lebron. But Chris Quinn has

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>already been a member of Eric Spolster staff for a decade.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>He's their longest tenured assistant coach. He's already been in

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the mix for some head coaching interviews. So Chris Quinn

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>certainly is another notable candidate here. And again, I do

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>think you can expect a pretty deliberate search that's going

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to go into June, because there's just really no incentive

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Lakers to go fast here. Anyway. The only

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>other current coaching opening is Washington. The Wizards are rebuilding,

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be competing for the same candidates

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>most likely, And there's already there's this widespread working assumption

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>in coaching circles anyway, that Brian Keith, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>interim coach for the Wizards basically from late January on,

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<v Speaker 1>that Keith's going to end up getting that job anyway

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington. So, as Cleveland contemplates JB. Bickerstaff's future Right

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<v Speaker 1>now as we speak, the Lakers really aren't competing with

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the coaching market, so that does afford them

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to take their time. Okay, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put a bow on things here. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done much playoff talk again because of when we're recording this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thursday, late afternoon, so we can't really work in

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Denver series because that game Game six in

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<v Speaker 1>that series will follow us tonight. Obviously, we did address

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<v Speaker 1>Boston eliminating Cleveland. We will have plenty of Boston discussion

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<v Speaker 1>when we get to the next round. The series that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris has been mostly covering Nicks Pacers, that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to Indiana for Game six. The series that I've most

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<v Speaker 1>closely been covering, Mavericks thunder Dallas will have the chance,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Saturday night to eliminate Oklahoma City after a

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<v Speaker 1>huge bounce back from the Mavericks to win Game five

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<v Speaker 1>in OKC on Wednesday night. But the next time we

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<v Speaker 1>get together for a pod, we should have a clear

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<v Speaker 1>picture of our final four. And I should just say

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<v Speaker 1>again though, when we I mean like we started getting

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<v Speaker 1>into it today with all this coaching carousel talk and

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the trade possibilities with Donovan Mitchell and

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Ingram and Trey Young. Just just think about this

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<v Speaker 1>list of teams. This is your list of teams that

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<v Speaker 1>have been eliminated since the play and Round began. Hawks, Bulls, Warriors, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Sons, Clippers,

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<v Speaker 1>heat Bucks, Sixers, Magic Cavaliers. Almost any team you name

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<v Speaker 1>on that list has major, major off season decisions and

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<v Speaker 1>business to tend to. And you know, maybe if you

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<v Speaker 1>except like Orlando, they're a young team, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>huge pressure on them, even though they were hugely disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>to lose a Game seven. But the Magic have tons

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<v Speaker 1>of cap space, so we know they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>active this summer. The Sixers have tons of cap space.

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<v Speaker 1>We know they would love to make a run at

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George in free agency or make a splashy trade

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<v Speaker 1>to bring someone in to their cap space. So really,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody on that list again, Hawks, Bulls, Warriors, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Clippers, Sons,

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<v Speaker 1>heat Bucks, Sixers, Magic Cavaliers, all those teams are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be active. I mean, you could see several of

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<v Speaker 1>those teams making significant changes, whether it's through signings or trades.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is going to be a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>business and tons of discussion going forward on this league

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<v Speaker 1>Uncut as we try to sort out what's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a really active offseason. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot of change with this

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<v Speaker 1>new very punitive luxury tax system that has been ushered in.

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<v Speaker 1>It just gets really tough the more expensive your team gets,

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to put players in play for trades,

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<v Speaker 1>probably more often even than we've seen in the recent past.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is going to be action between now and

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<v Speaker 1>July fifteenth. When you listen to other teams forecast the

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<v Speaker 1>next six weeks to two months in this league, almost

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<v Speaker 1>universally the answer is get ready, buckle up. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be busy. And the good news for us is

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Haynes will have it all figured out to break

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it down for us here on this League Uncut. Isn't

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that right, mister Haynes? And let's face it, as this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast war on, we heard a lot less maybe even none.

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<v Speaker 1>I really haven't noticed the fire alarm. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>can solve that while you're on the air recording, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what else is in store in the weeks ahead

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<v Speaker 1>is a big hilp. Oh that's what you did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. There, it goes, yeah, I didn't. I didn't notice.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't notice you were.

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<v Speaker 4>You go.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not quick at it.

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<v Speaker 1>That just shows you how handy I am. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even quick enough to notice that you were using mute.

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<v Speaker 3>So when this podcast concludes, I will still have a

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<v Speaker 3>smoke detector alarm going off. I just wanted to spare you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for thinking of us. We appreciate it. Everyone out there,

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<v Speaker 1>please remember to follow us, rate the show, review the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We would love a five star review. I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, the New York Madison Square Garden stories alone

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>from Chris Haynes in these playoffs, that's five star review

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<v Speaker 1>material right there, all right? That is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this edition of this League Uncut. The next

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>time we're all together Chris Haynes, Producer Ryan and me

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stein. By then we should be down to a

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<v Speaker 1>final four, which means twenty six of the league's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>teams will have begun their off season. We will get

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<v Speaker 1>into all of that next time here on This League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everyone for listening, and that'll do it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>See you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio production

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