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Speaker 1: his latest trip to the Big Apple to Madison Square Garden,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty

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Speaker 2: four hour NBIA News. This's you love, Chris Haynes. It's time,

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Speaker 2: works time, It's so time. This League Uncut is.

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Speaker 3: Underway in a fire.

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Speaker 2: This should be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome in to another edition of this League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. Bit of an unusual

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Speaker 1: this before the big game six in Minneapolis. Nuggets, once

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Speaker 1: that series. The most anticipated second round series to a

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Speaker 1: game seven, But we decided, because of the schedules that

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Speaker 3: to that game. As you know, well as you should know, ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Breaking news, your last sideline game of the season, last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it for the Knicks or four and

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Speaker 1: Last hangout with Latrell Spree, Well for the season.

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Speaker 3: You're a hero, not just that again. I met Latrell

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Speaker 3: Massive Square Garden has been really good to me. Producer Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I know he's going to get on this Stein because

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Speaker 1: This is it's more natural to talk about your travels.

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Speaker 1: Producer Ryan was wrong. This is the more natural show

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Speaker 3: Yes? It is. How would you know where this is going,

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Speaker 3: I yes, I met my favorite player of all time.

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Speaker 1: Did you invite him for a burger at halftime? To

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Speaker 1: We finally do believe that Madison Square has vaulted to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it happens. Y'all didn't believe me, So

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Speaker 1: You'll be sad if the Knicks can win one more

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Speaker 4: We set up our little recording session here. Haines had

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Speaker 3: what I can say is that, yes, it is true

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Speaker 3: Jared he chose not to get a pain injection. And

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Speaker 3: one of the primary reasons why I was told that

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Speaker 3: he declined. I don't know if people remember, remember about

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Speaker 3: four years ago, Tyrod Taylor, the quarterback, he was the

434
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Speaker 3: quarterback of the Chargers at the time. He had some

435
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Speaker 3: busted ribs and the team doctor tried to administer a

436
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Speaker 3: pain injection and accidentally punctured is long. So that was

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Speaker 3: what I was told. That was in the back of

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Speaker 3: back of Jared's mind at that time. That's a very

439
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: serious situation. And you know, I can't fault a guy

440
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Speaker 3: for choosing to go that route. I can't faultimate if

441
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: he if he chose to take the pain injection, but

442
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Speaker 3: you know that was that was a primary factor and

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Speaker 3: why he decided not to based off of, you know,

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Speaker 3: the experience that that they experienced, that tyre that Tyrod

445
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Speaker 3: had with the Chargers and Tyrod ended up suing that

446
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: team doctor for that as well. So you know, it's

447
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: it's a serious injury, but you know, you have to

448
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: leave it up to each player to choose what's best

449
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Speaker 3: for their body. Now, with all that being said, again,

450
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Speaker 3: Cleveland has a ton of decisions to make. It's bigger

451
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Speaker 3: staff going to be brought back. Is Donovan Mitchell going

452
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Speaker 3: to be brought back? Ken Evan Mobley and Jared Allen

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Speaker 3: continue to play together. You know, listen, I think they've

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Speaker 3: had a had a they've had great success. And I

455
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Speaker 3: think in the playoffs, everybody knows it's all about matchups.

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Speaker 3: So if you can get the right matchup, or you

457
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Speaker 3: can if you can get in the right bracket laying

458
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Speaker 3: in those playoffs, you can see yourself with a path

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Speaker 3: to the Eastern Conference finals. Because if Donovan Mitchell and

460
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Speaker 3: Jared Allen, if they were there, I think they can

461
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Speaker 3: give Boston a battle I still say Boston, you know,

462
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: would would beat them, but you know they have some

463
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Speaker 3: good competitive games, so you just never know. So I

464
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: think a lot of this is overblown, but there are

465
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Speaker 3: definitely real decisions that have to be made.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to quibble with you on great success.

467
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Speaker 1: And look, on one hand, you can say that the

468
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Speaker 1: pressure on JB. Bickerstaff has been unfair to a degree

469
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Speaker 1: because this season they have been absolutely smothered by injuries.

470
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Speaker 1: They lost guard Marland and Mobley early and then had

471
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Speaker 1: their best stretch of the season. I think it was

472
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Speaker 1: mid December to mid January. But look, Jamie Bickerstaff has

473
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Speaker 1: been under pressure since the playoffs last season, when the

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Speaker 1: Calves did so poorly in that first round series against

475
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Speaker 1: the Knicks, going out meekly in five games. The rumbles

476
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: about his job security have honestly been percolating since the

477
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Speaker 1: end of last season, and he had to cope with

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Speaker 1: it throughout this season. And given all the injuries that

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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers faced and the fact that they ultimately got

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Speaker 1: out of the first round, you could make the case

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Speaker 1: that it was too much. On the flip side, they're

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Speaker 1: just the Calves did not finish the regular season well,

483
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Speaker 1: and they had an experience edge against Orlando. That's the

484
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Speaker 1: team they clearly wanted to see in the first round,

485
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Speaker 1: an offensively challenged Magic team, and the Cavaliers squeaked by

486
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Speaker 1: in that series in seven game and not until they

487
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: fell way behind at home in Game seven. Yes, they

488
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Speaker 1: got out of it, but it has been a bumpy

489
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Speaker 1: ride and injuries. We cannot discount injuries as a factor.

490
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Speaker 1: Injuries were a massive factor in what a bumpy season

491
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Speaker 1: it was. And if the Cavaliers decide to bring JB.

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Speaker 1: Bickerstaff back, one of the factors would undoubtedly be what

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Speaker 1: direction are they going in terms of a replacement. That

494
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: certainly isn't clear cut. But there's been so much discussed

495
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Speaker 1: about Bickerstaff's future that it does make you wonder how

496
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Speaker 1: can he even come back from it? When, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: when there's been so much talk about a coach's job,

498
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Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of put that in the past

499
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Speaker 1: and pretend like it didn't happen. But putting aside the

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Speaker 1: whole coaching situation, I think what you said was exactly right.

501
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Question number one is Donovan Mitchell's future. Can they sign

502
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Speaker 1: him to an extension or do they have to explore

503
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Speaker 1: a trade. Are they forced into exploring the Donovan Mitchell

504
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: trade market? If they do get an extension done with

505
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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, does that mean that Darius Garland is for

506
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: sure going to be traded? I think it's reasonable to

507
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: assume that there will at least be discussions, and just

508
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: the prospect of that scenario will certainly encourage teams out

509
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: there that are interested in Darius Garland to make the

510
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Speaker 1: call and test the Cavs and see how willing they

511
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Speaker 1: are to talk trades there. And then with the two

512
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Bigs as well, there's been tons of questions lingering now

513
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: for seasons with an s about the fit Jared Allen

514
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: next to Evan Mobley. Do they work together? The way

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Speaker 1: Mobley played late in these playoffs, he had some really

516
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Speaker 1: good games in the Boston Series. Does that encourage Cleveland

517
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, We've got Jared Allen on

518
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Speaker 1: a value contract. They could easily trade Jared Allen and

519
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: get a lot. There would be a long line of

520
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: teams interested in him if they decide to move him.

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Speaker 1: Do the Calves finally decide, you know what, let's move

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen. Let's make Evan Mobley the focus of our

523
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: front line instead of trying to play those two together. So, yeah,

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00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: you're right, the Calves have so many things to tackle

525
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: and discuss and decide over the next month or two,

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Speaker 1: no question.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well that's an easy segue right there. You're

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Speaker 3: talking about potential coaching moves, coaching decisions, coaching searches. Let's

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Speaker 3: get to coaching searches. The Los Angeles Lakers are holding

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Speaker 3: coaching searches right now, and they're going to meet with

531
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Speaker 3: a few coaches right now. There's still in the preliminary

532
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: stages and it's still to very much the initial stages

533
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: of this search. But Stein tip read off some of

534
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Speaker 3: the names that that are going to get an interview,

535
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Speaker 3: that's going to get an interview initially as of right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, there, there's going to be a lot of interviews

537
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: because I think the most important thing here the Lakers.

538
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: All signs at this point point to JJ Reddick not

539
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: being available to the Lakers if he's the guy, if

540
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: he's the candidate. The Lakers ultimately choose here until after

541
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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, and the reason for that is ESPN ABC.

542
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: A year ago, they let both Jeff Van Gundy and

543
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson go. You were talking before about the A

544
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Speaker 1: broadcast crew and the B broadcast crew for ESPN ABC.

545
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Speaker 1: This season, the A team in terms of their broadcasting crew,

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Speaker 1: Mike Breen, Doris Burke, and Doc Rivers with Lease Assaulters

547
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and ESPN ABC was under the belief,

548
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: or maybe we should say the hope, that they would

549
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: have Doc Rivers for at least one season. I think

550
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: they knew deep down that Doc Rivers would be lured

551
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: back to coaching. I don't think they expected it to

552
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: happen before February. Doc Rivers had his next coaching job.

553
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: By the end of January, JJ Reddick was swiftly elevated

554
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: to the A team. So it would be huge egg

555
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: on ESPN's face if they lose now another member of

556
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Speaker 1: their Finals team to a coaching job. So within the industry,

557
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: when you hear people project what's going to happen with

558
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers, that's definitely a factor that people are looking at.

559
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: The working assumption that the Lakers, if they chose Reddick

560
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: as their next coach, couldn't even have him until after

561
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: the Finals. ESPN needs him for their Finals coverage, so

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00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: the Lakers are going to slow play this. They're going

563
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: to talk to lots of assistance. There are some former

564
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: head coaches in the mix, most notably James Barrego of

565
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Barrego this past season was the associate head

566
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Speaker 1: coach in New Orleans. Kenny Atkinson and Golden State is

567
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: another former head coach who's on the Lakers list. Then

568
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: you have assistants like Sam Cassell from Boston, Chris Quinn

569
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Speaker 1: from Miami, David Adelman from Denver, Mike and Nori from Minnesota,

570
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: and I suspect there will be more, and I might

571
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: even be forgetting a name or two, but the Lakers

572
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: are going to move deliberately. They're going to talk to

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00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people. If you've forced me right now

574
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: to pinpoint a favorite based on everyone I've talked to,

575
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: based on people I've spoken to in Chicago at the

576
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: pre draft, combine what's buzzing around there the early favorite.

577
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: If you were insistent that we had to choose one today,

578
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: if producer Ryan refuses to let us publish this podcast

579
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: without identifying an early favorite, it would be JJ Reddick.

580
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: But there is a whole interview process to go through,

581
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: and my read on it is I do think both

582
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Sam Kassel and James Brego will also be strongly considered

583
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: for this job, and then we'll have to see if

584
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Speaker 1: there are any other curveballs that emerge during the search process.

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Speaker 3: I'm very high on Sam Cassel and Chris Quinn, and

586
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: that is not to diminish any other candidates in this pool,

587
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: but Chris Quinn and Sam Cassel are two assistants that

588
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: have been primed for the role of a head coach

589
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: in the NBA, and you know, just just thinking about

590
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: what the Lakers present and what they're trying to do

591
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: right now, I think those two candidates makes sense those

592
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's rare that was It used to be

593
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: rare that an assistant coach who's never been a head

594
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: coach will get a job where there's championship expectations from

595
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: day one, But that landscape has changed over the last

596
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: five or six years now, so we're seeing scenarios like

597
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: that playout. And I think those two are really great candidates.

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00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: So I hope the Lakers really do their due diligence

599
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: on those two like they're doing with JJ and everyone else.

600
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, no matter how you slice it with this

601
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 3: Lakers search, there is not a guy that just makes

602
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: home run. Since you know that candidate is not out

603
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: there for this team, usually you will want to have

604
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: a veteran head coach who's had some success, possibly even

605
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: had a championship, coach the team to a championship, but

606
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: definitely had a lot of success, experience in dealing with superstars,

607
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: experience of different dealing with different personalities. That coach is

608
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: not out there, So you know, I don't know's you know.

609
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: I like to think that the Lakers already knew who

610
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: they wanted in the back of their mind before they

611
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: fired coach Ham. Hopefully they're not just going through the

612
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: motions right now and being going to end up with whoever,

613
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, whoever gave the best interview, because it's whoever

614
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: you hire this this hire would likely be scrutinized. Whoever

615
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: it is. You know, if it's an assistant coach, well

616
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: there's no experience. How can he tell Lebron and Ad

617
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: what to do? If it's JJ Riddick, Oh it's Lebron's

618
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: podcast partner, you know, whoever gets this job is going

619
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: to be scrutinized. So you know, hopefully whoever gets it

620
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: can do a good job, but you know, just it's

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Speaker 3: going to be tough. So I'll just say that whoever

622
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: gets the job is going to be going to have

623
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Speaker 3: a tough seat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think there's no question that JJ Reddick

625
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: already does have fans within the Lakers organization. But he's

626
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: never coached anywhere but his son's youth basketball team. He

627
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: really has no coaching experience whatsoever. And yes, he has

628
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Speaker 1: the relationship with Lebron, maybe even the closest relationship with

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Speaker 1: Lebron when we talk about all the names or in

630
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: consideration now, but on that basis alone, to step into

631
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Speaker 1: one of the most high profile coaching jobs, not just

632
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA but anywhere on the sports map, that

633
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: might be too much to ask. When I look at

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Speaker 1: Sam Cassell, I think it's very similar to the circumstances

635
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Speaker 1: when Darvin Ham was hired. Okay, Sam Cassell has not

636
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: been a head coach in this league, but he's been

637
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: an assistant for fifteen seasons on some really good staffs.

638
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: He's way overdue for a coaching job. Darvin Ham, it

639
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: took too long before he got his first shot. It's

640
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: taken way too long for Sam Cassell. He should have

641
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: had a head coaching opportunity by now, and I think

642
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Speaker 1: it's worth pointing out, as I reported earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: Sam Cassell is a clutch Sports client if that stuff

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Speaker 1: matters to you, just like both Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: And one more footnote on Sam Cassell if he does

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Speaker 1: not get the Laker job, I'm told that Doc Rivers

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Speaker 1: really wants Sam back with him. He would love to

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Speaker 1: bring him to Milwaukee. We'll see if the Bucks would

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Speaker 1: be able to pull that off. But Sam, for almost

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Speaker 1: two thirds of his coaching career has been on the

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Speaker 1: bench with Doc Rivers, either with the Clippers or Philly.

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Speaker 1: So Doc Rivers, i'm told, would love to reunite with

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Speaker 1: Sam Cassell and bring him to his Buck staff if

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Speaker 1: Sam is unsuccessful in getting the Lakers job. James Barrego

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Speaker 1: is another very highly rated assistant coach who of course

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Speaker 1: has already been a head coach in this league more

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Speaker 1: than once Orlando and Charlotte, and I think James Barrego

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Speaker 1: has to be taken very seriously in this search. And

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Speaker 1: like you said, Chris Quinn another highly rated assistant. He

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Speaker 1: comes from the Heat program, which is as highly rated

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Speaker 1: and as respected an organization as there is. And Chris Quinn,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, okay, he missed interacting with Lebron as

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Speaker 1: both a player and a coach. He narrowly missed out

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Speaker 1: on playing with or coaching Lebron. But Chris Quinn has

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Speaker 1: already been a member of Eric Spolster staff for a decade.

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Speaker 1: He's their longest tenured assistant coach. He's already been in

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Speaker 1: the mix for some head coaching interviews. So Chris Quinn

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Speaker 1: certainly is another notable candidate here. And again, I do

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Speaker 1: think you can expect a pretty deliberate search that's going

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Speaker 1: to go into June, because there's just really no incentive

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers to go fast here. Anyway. The only

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Speaker 1: other current coaching opening is Washington. The Wizards are rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be competing for the same candidates

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Speaker 1: most likely, And there's already there's this widespread working assumption

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Speaker 1: in coaching circles anyway, that Brian Keith, who was the

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Speaker 1: interim coach for the Wizards basically from late January on,

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Speaker 1: that Keith's going to end up getting that job anyway

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Speaker 1: in Washington. So, as Cleveland contemplates JB. Bickerstaff's future Right

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Speaker 1: now as we speak, the Lakers really aren't competing with

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Speaker 1: anyone in the coaching market, so that does afford them

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to take their time. Okay, I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to put a bow on things here. We haven't

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Speaker 1: done much playoff talk again because of when we're recording this.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, late afternoon, so we can't really work in

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Denver series because that game Game six in

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Speaker 1: that series will follow us tonight. Obviously, we did address

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Speaker 1: Boston eliminating Cleveland. We will have plenty of Boston discussion

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Speaker 1: when we get to the next round. The series that

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Speaker 1: Chris has been mostly covering Nicks Pacers, that goes back

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Speaker 1: to Indiana for Game six. The series that I've most

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Speaker 1: closely been covering, Mavericks thunder Dallas will have the chance,

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00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: of course Saturday night to eliminate Oklahoma City after a

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Speaker 1: huge bounce back from the Mavericks to win Game five

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Speaker 1: in OKC on Wednesday night. But the next time we

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Speaker 1: get together for a pod, we should have a clear

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Speaker 1: picture of our final four. And I should just say

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Speaker 1: again though, when we I mean like we started getting

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Speaker 1: into it today with all this coaching carousel talk and

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Speaker 1: a look at the trade possibilities with Donovan Mitchell and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram and Trey Young. Just just think about this

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Speaker 1: list of teams. This is your list of teams that

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Speaker 1: have been eliminated since the play and Round began. Hawks, Bulls, Warriors, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Sons, Clippers,

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Speaker 1: heat Bucks, Sixers, Magic Cavaliers. Almost any team you name

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Speaker 1: on that list has major, major off season decisions and

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Speaker 1: business to tend to. And you know, maybe if you

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Speaker 1: except like Orlando, they're a young team, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: huge pressure on them, even though they were hugely disappointed

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Speaker 1: to lose a Game seven. But the Magic have tons

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Speaker 1: of cap space, so we know they're going to be

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Speaker 1: active this summer. The Sixers have tons of cap space.

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Speaker 1: We know they would love to make a run at

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Speaker 1: Paul George in free agency or make a splashy trade

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Speaker 1: to bring someone in to their cap space. So really,

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Speaker 1: anybody on that list again, Hawks, Bulls, Warriors, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Clippers, Sons,

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Speaker 1: heat Bucks, Sixers, Magic Cavaliers, all those teams are going

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Speaker 1: to be active. I mean, you could see several of

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Speaker 1: those teams making significant changes, whether it's through signings or trades.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is going to be a ton of

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Speaker 1: business and tons of discussion going forward on this league

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Speaker 1: Uncut as we try to sort out what's going to be.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a really active offseason. I think

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of change with this

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Speaker 1: new very punitive luxury tax system that has been ushered in.

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Speaker 1: It just gets really tough the more expensive your team gets,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to put players in play for trades,

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Speaker 1: probably more often even than we've seen in the recent past.

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Speaker 1: So there is going to be action between now and

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Speaker 1: July fifteenth. When you listen to other teams forecast the

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Speaker 1: next six weeks to two months in this league, almost

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Speaker 1: universally the answer is get ready, buckle up. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be busy. And the good news for us is

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Speaker 1: Chris Haynes will have it all figured out to break

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Speaker 1: it down for us here on this League Uncut. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that right, mister Haynes? And let's face it, as this

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Speaker 1: podcast war on, we heard a lot less maybe even none.

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Speaker 1: I really haven't noticed the fire alarm. So if you

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Speaker 1: can solve that while you're on the air recording, who

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Speaker 1: knows what else is in store in the weeks ahead

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Speaker 1: is a big hilp. Oh that's what you did. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. There, it goes, yeah, I didn't. I didn't notice.

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Speaker 3: I didn't notice you were.

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Speaker 4: You go.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I was not quick at it.

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Speaker 1: That just shows you how handy I am. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: even quick enough to notice that you were using mute.

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Speaker 3: So when this podcast concludes, I will still have a

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Speaker 3: smoke detector alarm going off. I just wanted to spare you, guys.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm thinking about you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for thinking of us. We appreciate it. Everyone out there,

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Speaker 1: please remember to follow us, rate the show, review the show.

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Speaker 1: We would love a five star review. I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, the New York Madison Square Garden stories alone

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00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: from Chris Haynes in these playoffs, that's five star review

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Speaker 1: material right there, all right? That is going to do

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Speaker 1: it for this edition of this League Uncut. The next

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Speaker 1: time we're all together Chris Haynes, Producer Ryan and me

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein. By then we should be down to a

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Speaker 1: final four, which means twenty six of the league's thirty

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Speaker 1: teams will have begun their off season. We will get

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Speaker 1: into all of that next time here on This League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for listening, and that'll do it for us.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio production

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