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Speaker 1: After a big victory. Yeah, I am Scott Smith, I'm
Speaker 1: Jeff Ryan. I guess we're not as salty we are
Speaker 1: the Salty Dogs. Well, we're still salty. It's just a
Speaker 1: little more fun right now. We're salty. We're salty and
Speaker 1: sweet like trail nicks h That's the way we feel
Speaker 1: this week. It was a sweet wind. It was there's
Speaker 1: still things to be salty about. Well, yes, very much so.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, by week seventeen,
Speaker 1: we won't remember all that game was one. As long
Speaker 1: as you have I know your point that it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how you won, and there's no such thing as
Speaker 1: a I mean, nobody cares if it's an ugly win
Speaker 1: quote unquote ugly win. But I think I will remember
Speaker 1: how this one ended. Given what Tom Brady did that
Speaker 1: was pretty remarkable. I mean it's it's his fifty fifth
Speaker 1: career game. When you come back, which is now the
Speaker 1: all time record. I was thinking about this. Actually, I
Speaker 1: was answering some questions for a guy. You know, you
Speaker 1: know you're fan, you got going there? Why don't you
Speaker 1: turn that off? There go those people, those people that
Speaker 1: are listening to us going what is that weird noise?
Speaker 1: So this guy from Seattle, I guess something like my
Speaker 1: counterpart for their for them is asking me to answer
Speaker 1: questions for some story on their song. Uh. And he
Speaker 1: was just asking me about, um, you know what that
Speaker 1: win might have done for the confidence slash morale the team.
Speaker 1: And I really think there's something to that. And it's
Speaker 1: not just that I think you may be the one
Speaker 1: who said it. It's not just that looking at four
Speaker 1: and five feels okay and looking at three or six
Speaker 1: would have felt like a disaster. That was just one game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were at lunch and we were looking at standings
Speaker 1: and I just said, it just seems and everybody kind
Speaker 1: of chuckled at me. But but just but from a um,
Speaker 1: unless maybe a less concrete standpoint, I do think a
Speaker 1: game like that can have a positive effect on the
Speaker 1: team morale, team's confidence, and on how they perform going forward. Uh. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think a couple of the players said, the best
Speaker 1: part about that was it showed how the team can play,
Speaker 1: and that yeah, that it's capable of playing that way.
Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, we've been spoiled the last few
Speaker 1: years watching the team march down the field like that,
Speaker 1: scoring over thirty points a game. So that is like,
Speaker 1: are they back? I don't know. So a lot of
Speaker 1: the hallmarks of what we got used to during what
Speaker 1: we're without question the two most successful consecutive seasons in
Speaker 1: franchise history. Um, you got used to scoring a ton
Speaker 1: of points, like you just said, you used to defense
Speaker 1: being almost impossible to run against. You got used to
Speaker 1: defense constantly creating turnovers. You got used to the passing
Speaker 1: attack always finding a way to make some explosive plays
Speaker 1: and scoring just a ton of points. And all those
Speaker 1: hallmarks haven't really been here this season as the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: have tried to adjust to what is a new team,
Speaker 1: right almost it is. Yeah, but but Tom Brady into
Speaker 1: the game miracle come back to get you the win
Speaker 1: that looked like you couldn't get That I remember, and
Speaker 1: that I recognized, and that felt like the last two years,
Speaker 1: And like you just said, maybe that means some of
Speaker 1: this other stuff is gonna start working out. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the optimistic quaiting. Well yeah, and and again it's it's
Speaker 1: does uh does Tom get a little more comfortable with
Speaker 1: his offensive line because there's been so many changes there.
Speaker 1: You know, having a Keen Hicks back in certainly seem
Speaker 1: to make a difference for Vida most definitely. So there
Speaker 1: are you know, the team getting healthy has helped. Um.
Speaker 1: But I but you know, it's like you said, it's
Speaker 1: the team still not hitting on all you know, eight
Speaker 1: cylinders or if this is since we're going to Germany,
Speaker 1: it'll be a twelve cylinder because because they make big,
Speaker 1: big engines, we'd be um, we'd be getting passed on
Speaker 1: the autombnle Uh yeah, most definitely. We actually would be
Speaker 1: kicked off because if you don't drive fast enough, I
Speaker 1: think the kid you're off the autom I would love
Speaker 1: to drive on the Audubon. I would happily drive home.
Speaker 1: You should do it. I don't have to rent a
Speaker 1: car or something. Scott let loose to some of that money.
Speaker 1: But close are we to the Audubon in Munich? Through Munich?
Speaker 1: Sure it's nearby? Yeah, because uh, Tim Jocky, our director
Speaker 1: of travel was our team. Services was saying that he
Speaker 1: was on the autobon. You have to you have to,
Speaker 1: you know, think about once in a lifetime experience. I
Speaker 1: have no specific plans, so we'll see what happens. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's reasons to believe, right that those kind of games
Speaker 1: that give you reasons to believe, well it it gives
Speaker 1: you hope. Now, hope is not a strategy, good call,
Speaker 1: but but it is. It is the feeling that, yes,
Speaker 1: this team can be this way. Now the question is
Speaker 1: are they going to be consistently playing like that? And personally,
Speaker 1: I like the fact that just a hurry up. To me,
Speaker 1: it's like they don't have to think, they just play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you look at that drive,
Speaker 1: you know to two things, uh, the fact that they
Speaker 1: were able to do it without calling a time out
Speaker 1: because they didn't have it. They didn't have one, but
Speaker 1: they were able to march down the field to do that.
Speaker 1: How they were allowed to go out of bounds each
Speaker 1: after the third LS first catch was up the middle,
Speaker 1: but after that to Scotty Miller, a couple of times,
Speaker 1: I think I was watching a highlight and I heard
Speaker 1: the Romo call of that middle part of that driving
Speaker 1: and he said something like that play down the middle
Speaker 1: where you didn't had to run up in spike put
Speaker 1: you in position where now you could you could you
Speaker 1: were close enough that you could succeed on three or
Speaker 1: four plays where you were throwing to the outside. And
Speaker 1: I would imagine it was hard to tell on the replay,
Speaker 1: but I think probably uh Kay Doton who made the catch,
Speaker 1: was sort of running around that looked like he was
Speaker 1: going to break to the sideline because that's what they
Speaker 1: were expecting, and they were they were covering the boundaries.
Speaker 1: But then he cut back in and that's because that's
Speaker 1: not that's what the defense was given away because they
Speaker 1: knew the Bucks didn't have a time out. Unfortunately for them,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady that wasn't got Tom Brady close enough that
Speaker 1: he could get the rest of the way on on
Speaker 1: throws to the outside. And you know, if you're a
Speaker 1: Rams fan, you're sitting here and how are they letting
Speaker 1: letting get out of bounce? But sometimes the play as
Speaker 1: well deserved. World Designer will run and both Scotty Miller's
Speaker 1: seventeen and seven yard ones that got us down to
Speaker 1: the seven or fourteen and seven look like they were
Speaker 1: given a ton of cushions because you can't let them
Speaker 1: as the packers. No, you can't just let him run
Speaker 1: past you. That's the worst thing you can do. So
Speaker 1: you have to give that cushion and guard against head.
Speaker 1: So Scott, you just runs really hard and then breaks
Speaker 1: quickly to the outside. And it's if you're if you're not,
Speaker 1: if you're trying not to give him the big play.
Speaker 1: It's also hard to stop that. And then the ball
Speaker 1: gets delivered on Yeah, and well like he threw the
Speaker 1: played Uh, the second one took like one point seven
Speaker 1: seconds from the snap to him releasing and then the
Speaker 1: ball too, Scotty, So it's like you pick up seven
Speaker 1: yards down to the seven in in the snap. In
Speaker 1: the snap. Yeah, And we were talking a couple of
Speaker 1: us talking about unfortunately Scotty Miller dropped that ball in
Speaker 1: the end zone. But but a couple of things. One
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, Dave. Dave Moore made a
Speaker 1: good comment during our broadcast that he really didn't need
Speaker 1: the jump, and then when you jump, it changes your
Speaker 1: perception or vision of how the ball is coming in.
Speaker 1: But we're kind of discussing today, Uh, had he made that,
Speaker 1: how much time was on? So do they march down
Speaker 1: kick a field goal and then you go to overtime?
Speaker 1: Now you can't, you can't go well, let's not do
Speaker 1: the points now, let's wait. You know, you gotta take
Speaker 1: the points when you can get them. But what I'm
Speaker 1: alluding to there is he drops it. But I liked
Speaker 1: what Tom Brady said after the game, and that was
Speaker 1: it's okay, if you drop a pass, I'm gonna miss throws.
Speaker 1: The key is you were open that you understood the play.
Speaker 1: I thought that spoke volumes from from just uh, you know, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he'll never get the ball again because he dropped the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever heard quarterbacks say that specifically before.
Speaker 1: But as soon as he said I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. It is because he knows these
Speaker 1: guys can catch, and Mikevis dropped the ball, but Tom
Speaker 1: knows he can catch. But and Tom knows that sometimes
Speaker 1: he makes a bad throw. I I know it's very
Speaker 1: hard to criticize Tom Brady, but in this particular instance,
Speaker 1: there are some throws that aren't there. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: one to Scotty, that drive, I think it was better
Speaker 1: than Scott he thought it was gonna be because I
Speaker 1: think he thought he had to jump, and you see
Speaker 1: him jump and then you see him pull his arms
Speaker 1: back down and yeah, like you said, it changes. The
Speaker 1: unnecessary jump usually messes up. That game was agonizing all
Speaker 1: the way until the defense made that's the final stop
Speaker 1: the first How Cooper Cup does not get the first down.
Speaker 1: I'm still amazed by that. By the way he was
Speaker 1: running on the site, I think, personally, I think he
Speaker 1: slid early, which I'm happy he did. Rams fans, I
Speaker 1: can tell think the same thing. I've seen that on
Speaker 1: mess boards. I personally don't think he makes it even
Speaker 1: if to the sticks. If he goes to the outside,
Speaker 1: continues to the outside. So I think he had to
Speaker 1: say I have to slide now or I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out of bounds, and that's the disaster right there. You go, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the point. But I think there are RAMS fans
Speaker 1: who would say, well, he could have cut it back
Speaker 1: in and maybe that works, but either way it keeps
Speaker 1: the play going. But I think these guys go into
Speaker 1: that plane no one, Okay, if I'm not gonna make it,
Speaker 1: I have to slide impacts and I understand why he
Speaker 1: did it. It's funny. Are Ceo stopped into the broadcast
Speaker 1: booth as that was going on. Brian Ford and um,
Speaker 1: he looked at me and I said, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball back. Around fifty seconds, he goes, really, I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, I think we'll be okay. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I said, other than other than Brian is so
Speaker 1: positive all the time. I figured I had to throw
Speaker 1: that out there. But I think we'll be I think
Speaker 1: we'll be okay. It shouldn't be a problem, but you
Speaker 1: know it was in some ways. If you're going to
Speaker 1: be in that situation, you were looking at it and
Speaker 1: I don't know, after the first throw, I went, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is actually going to happen. And I
Speaker 1: think it just changed. We won't know until later on
Speaker 1: this season, but that could be the point where you
Speaker 1: just go, wow, that was the turning point. But you
Speaker 1: know where we are. We're We're in November, and you
Speaker 1: know my theory about November. It's time. I feel like
Speaker 1: you say that about whatever month we're happening to be going. No, no,
Speaker 1: what we always wait, we we we we need to go.
Speaker 1: We only got what eight games left. So by terms
Speaker 1: of yeah, by in terms of have you ever seen
Speaker 1: one of those next gen stats win probability charts? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't like it just changes all the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: it changes by whatever happened, Yes, I understand. So you
Speaker 1: know you can picture with the downline the middle and
Speaker 1: the ramsle and top of the Bucks on the bottom
Speaker 1: on the line going up and down. So according to
Speaker 1: and put as much stock in and you. I've heard
Speaker 1: other people that say they don't like win probability charts either,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people refer to them. So just
Speaker 1: let me talk about it for sure. Absolutely here let
Speaker 1: me pause. Go ahead at the at the uh after
Speaker 1: fourth down play and the pen ultimate Bucks drive failed
Speaker 1: in the end zone, we had we were given a
Speaker 1: five percent chance of winning that game. There was one
Speaker 1: fifty two left five percent chance after stopping. The defense
Speaker 1: made the stop it had to make because if they
Speaker 1: got a first down, they were easily running out the clock.
Speaker 1: It went up to and the balls at the forty
Speaker 1: with forty four seconds left, it was at ten Okay,
Speaker 1: ten percent, that's better than nothing, right the and then
Speaker 1: of course, as you would imagine, it went up, continue
Speaker 1: to go up and up, and up, although it went
Speaker 1: down briefly on the four yard Leonard for Nette catch um,
Speaker 1: but the biggest play that made the biggest jump in
Speaker 1: the Bucks chances of winning that game. It was actually
Speaker 1: not an official play because it was the past interference
Speaker 1: penalty on Darien Kind and that which was a good
Speaker 1: which was as Tom said afterwards, Mike probably catches that
Speaker 1: ball if he the guy doesn't interfere with correct. He
Speaker 1: was a well thrown ball. It um, So that made
Speaker 1: a first and goal to one. And I love the
Speaker 1: play that they ran. Love the play. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you've probably heard this already too. Some fans may have
Speaker 1: already heard this, But Tom Brady made that call or
Speaker 1: suggested the play. What why did you rulling your eyes? No,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening. Why did you rulling your eyes of me?
Speaker 1: Saying Tom Brady made that well because because it seems
Speaker 1: like when the plays are good, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: make a value. No, no, no, no, no, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm just continue. Tom Brady thought of a play
Speaker 1: he really liked. Started over towards the sideline signal to
Speaker 1: Byron left, which what he wanted to run, and Byron left,
Speaker 1: which was all on board. So this isn't a Tom
Speaker 1: Brady Inspyron Left, which things you can stop rolling your eyes.
Speaker 1: What I what I liked about it was that I've
Speaker 1: seen that play so many times during practice, so over
Speaker 1: the course of three years and many practices. Those guys
Speaker 1: both have input into the offense. You know, Tom, I'm
Speaker 1: not one of these people who thinks Tom Brady runs everything.
Speaker 1: But he's our GM and our head coach and our
Speaker 1: play caller Byron Left, which calls the plays um. But
Speaker 1: of course a quarterback of that experience. If he says
Speaker 1: I like this play in this situation, and you're the senior, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds good. Yeah, why not let him run it?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? Yeah? So well, I mean, butter and
Speaker 1: might have had some else in mind, and then he
Speaker 1: he might have might not have. Do you think they
Speaker 1: could have? They couldn't run. That's that was I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I please don't run. They couldn't because I believe it
Speaker 1: was thirteen seconds and you can't. You can't run, get
Speaker 1: up and spike the ball. There's no way you can
Speaker 1: guarantee that you will get that ball set that you
Speaker 1: know the official is gonna have to come in there
Speaker 1: and set it. It's may be huge bodies everywhere. At
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds, it gives you what two plays, maybe three
Speaker 1: because that touched on play took four seconds, so I
Speaker 1: think you could get three in because you only have
Speaker 1: to have one second to play the third play. So
Speaker 1: if the two first two combined for twelve, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how long the last one, as long as you
Speaker 1: got one second. I love the play you got. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike evns. Mike Evans isolated at the top, but from
Speaker 1: where I was, it was the top on the left
Speaker 1: side of the line. I believe Jalen Ramsey was in
Speaker 1: one on one coverage, which I not shocked that would do.
Speaker 1: Because when the when the books isolate Mike Evans on
Speaker 1: the goal line, they've run a lot of fades and
Speaker 1: things like quick quick things that Mike's rat so you
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. Here on the other end
Speaker 1: of the line, you got k Dotton outside the right
Speaker 1: tackle and back off the line, You've got Scottie No
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin next to him but on the line, and
Speaker 1: then Scotti next to him off the line. So it's
Speaker 1: one of those little v looking trips bunch formations. But condensed.
Speaker 1: At the snap, Cade engages with Leonard Floyd so block
Speaker 1: just long enough and then actually spends to seventy so
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't turn to his right. He spins
Speaker 1: around two seventy, which is when we would run um
Speaker 1: when we coached our flag football teams. When we would
Speaker 1: run plays and involved pivots, we always wanted the receivers
Speaker 1: to pivot towards the quarterback's face, so that way you
Speaker 1: guys hook up right away and you were looking at
Speaker 1: each other the whole way. So he pivots, he pivots
Speaker 1: to seventy and and he's and starts running out. Scottie
Speaker 1: and Chris Godwin both ran in breaking routes, which engaged
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Troy Hill and Darren Kendrick for just a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those two sold it. Yeah, But I mean they had
Speaker 1: to cover him until they until they see Tom turning
Speaker 1: to his right. They have to cover him. I can't
Speaker 1: just let him go, so they start to coverm It's
Speaker 1: just enough so that I think it was. Troy Hill
Speaker 1: was the closest. He recognized the play quickly and started
Speaker 1: towards Kate, but he couldn't get there. He was doing
Speaker 1: too much of a trailing position. So it was a
Speaker 1: beautifully executed play. Yeah, and it was a great catch too.
Speaker 1: I like the way he stuck the ball over the line. Hey,
Speaker 1: it was very very exciting for Kate. We think we've
Speaker 1: had him on here. Uh he is. He is coming
Speaker 1: together very very nicely as a as a rookie tight end.
Speaker 1: No one can um expect him to be Gronk or
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, that's who had who else has been right,
Speaker 1: But he seems to be becoming a go to guy
Speaker 1: with Cam Break being out, he seems to be a
Speaker 1: guy that there. I don't want to call it trust factor,
Speaker 1: but if you throw him the ball, it seems like
Speaker 1: he figures out a way to catch. He's realistically becoming
Speaker 1: a weapon. I mean fair, He's not going to give
Speaker 1: you a hundred yards game. But he's not Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: or at least not yet. No, but he's he's he's
Speaker 1: wide in the scope of what the offense he's playing
Speaker 1: that if you're gonna play against us, you have to
Speaker 1: pay attention to And he's playing like eight percent of
Speaker 1: the snaps every game now, that which means they're satisfied
Speaker 1: with his blocking. And then Coke keeps for about nineteen
Speaker 1: and and co Is he lightened it up. He's he's
Speaker 1: old time fullback. Caught another pass? He gets one game? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's an Is that an atta boy? Pass? You block? Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw you. Watch here's one for you. He
Speaker 1: had your stats. That's for all your fantasy football players
Speaker 1: were going to Oh, I don't know if I thought
Speaker 1: of a player this. Well, you've got plenty of time. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So kay Dotton finishes with five catches for a team
Speaker 1: high sixty eight yards. That's good production. Um and I
Speaker 1: could see it happening multiple times. I'm hoping it does.
Speaker 1: So that was good. We really we really like Kate.
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. Like seeing him do well, gets
Speaker 1: to play. It's I'm sure he likes going to Germany too.
Speaker 1: But this would be a homecoming game for him if
Speaker 1: we were Oh, no, we have been at home. That's right,
Speaker 1: this is a home game. I was thinking it's back
Speaker 1: to Seattle, Washington. His grandfather was a well known high
Speaker 1: school coach. He played for in state. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm going down this stangent because
Speaker 1: it was a home Well, that's okay. You can go
Speaker 1: do that. But anyway, that's what's nice. You have this
Speaker 1: knowledge that I have no idea where it comes from.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. That twenty yard catch by
Speaker 1: Kay Dotton was the buccaneers only big play of the
Speaker 1: entire game. Big plays generally defined as twenty yards or
Speaker 1: more on catches and ten yards or more and runs.
Speaker 1: So we went fifty nine plus minutes without generating a
Speaker 1: single big place. So if you're looking for reasons to
Speaker 1: pump the brakes here a little bit, that's one right there.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Your texts have to have to
Speaker 1: replace this something, So that's why you're just giving me
Speaker 1: looks like that. Pretend you're listening to and I'll just
Speaker 1: keep talking. Then you're you, you were, you were just
Speaker 1: a wealth of him. We were talking about it. Since
Speaker 1: we're on the tight ends, and the fact that Gronk
Speaker 1: isn't here, I think one of the things you would
Speaker 1: think he can keep come back at this stage. I
Speaker 1: mean conceivably sure, but I would not expect it because
Speaker 1: I remember when he came out of retirement in twent
Speaker 1: twenty and came to training cab and it took some
Speaker 1: time for him to get in fighting that was kind
Speaker 1: of a big story. And then even when the season started,
Speaker 1: it took some time before he started looking like old Gronk.
Speaker 1: And if you and if he does come back, then
Speaker 1: wouldn't you as a defensive coordinator just key on him
Speaker 1: because no good, that'll draw attention a right, But I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: He can't be in playing shape at this point. No,
Speaker 1: I mean no, I don't care how much he works out.
Speaker 1: If it's the same as during his retire meant then
Speaker 1: he wouldn't walk in the door ready to play. And
Speaker 1: we're already in week ten. Yeah, yeah, football shape is
Speaker 1: different than regular shape. But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he comes back in a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: and by the playoffs he's a force. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm not expecting it. I don't think you are,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's great fodder. It's fun to talk about.
Speaker 1: And I like when he said hish his does he
Speaker 1: say his girlfriends are missing him or something of that nature,
Speaker 1: which said that on the Fox pre game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty funny. But I would tell you this,
Speaker 1: I think we are seeing just a little bit of
Speaker 1: how important Rob Gronkowski was to the running game. He really,
Speaker 1: I mean, he was always a threat to go out,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't you couldn't just stack the box and
Speaker 1: assume that the tight end wasn't going anywhere. But he
Speaker 1: added a lot to that. And that's not anything against
Speaker 1: Cade or Co, but Gronkowski really was an important part
Speaker 1: of that running game well. And also it's called experience.
Speaker 1: You know, those guys are just coming into the league
Speaker 1: and they're learning a new system and it takes a
Speaker 1: little bit of time. Um, but who knows where they're
Speaker 1: going to end up. I think they're off to a
Speaker 1: great start as rookies. I couldn't be happier for that.
Speaker 1: And considering that we were struggling, you know, with Cam
Speaker 1: Braid getting hurt, um, Rudolph not playing as much as
Speaker 1: we thought he was going to play. So you know
Speaker 1: they're answering the bell. Now you're the one on your phone.
Speaker 1: I know I was hoping you'd keep talking. I can
Speaker 1: my wife and I just want to make sure that
Speaker 1: you know what do you need to take care of
Speaker 1: that immediately? And I'm going to say, um too, you
Speaker 1: could be reading commercially at I could, but you know,
Speaker 1: hey speaking and we're doing very well with that, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that yeah, yeah, it seems it seems to be spreading.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure why. I keep asking do you
Speaker 1: know why? And I get this blank look like beats
Speaker 1: the crapout? I don't know, just charis I guess? So? Uh, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I didn't. Okay. The next guy we need to
Speaker 1: talk about is the guy who got the game ball
Speaker 1: in the locker room, and for very good reason. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me put it this way. I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: darn cool to to have witnessed, to be there, to
Speaker 1: witness the best game ever played for your franchise by
Speaker 1: a player at a certain position. So like, for instance,
Speaker 1: I guess Doug Martin's two that was probably the best
Speaker 1: game ever for right back right and Jimmy Jiles four
Speaker 1: touchdowns against Dolphins. I didn't get to see that one,
Speaker 1: but maybe you did. Um, so you saw that one. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the best game ever by a
Speaker 1: receiver for us. There's been some new ones. That one's
Speaker 1: a little tough, but exactly what you're saying, we just
Speaker 1: witnessed the greatest game ever by a Buccaneers punter. And
Speaker 1: I don't even have to say arguably or what could be,
Speaker 1: it is inarguably the best game ever. Was that yard
Speaker 1: punt the last the long was that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was his he had he had sixty six,
Speaker 1: sixty eight and any four, but I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: what order. The one that he changed the flipped the
Speaker 1: field totally. Well, we got two straight we got two
Speaker 1: straight penalties on trying to get the punt off and
Speaker 1: after one pretty good point, Yeah, they're like, back him
Speaker 1: up and make him do it again. That was a mistake.
Speaker 1: So and then we had like a false start when
Speaker 1: when that punt was done, where are broadcast booth, I
Speaker 1: can see our coaches and Jackie was up on the
Speaker 1: upper level and as I turned around, she turned around
Speaker 1: and we made eye contact and I went wow, and
Speaker 1: she just did that smile you know what you're speaking of,
Speaker 1: Jackie Davidson, who was with podcast. Wasn't just last week
Speaker 1: it was and and uh that that just seemed to
Speaker 1: like almost that was the second most important play. It
Speaker 1: might have been the first important play because it changed everything.
Speaker 1: It changed the feeling in the stadium, you know, besides
Speaker 1: field position. I mean, it was just one of those
Speaker 1: are you kidding me. The Buccaneers. The Matt Gay of
Speaker 1: the Rams had just kicked a field goal to make
Speaker 1: a ten to six. Yeah, we get the ball back
Speaker 1: with nine minutes left in the third quarter. Hadn't done
Speaker 1: anything on our first drive of the first half, didn't
Speaker 1: do anything on this one three and out. Comarta punts
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard which is very good, very but
Speaker 1: our guy Cocife his called for holding happens happens. Um
Speaker 1: who knows the holding might have kept the punt for
Speaker 1: being blocked. They look at you. I don't really know,
Speaker 1: but sometimes that that sounds good though. Uh so they
Speaker 1: like back up up ten yard because they could have
Speaker 1: just taken the ten yards at the end of the
Speaker 1: the punt return, but they took They've chose him back
Speaker 1: up ten makeing punt again, which was, as I said,
Speaker 1: a moment ago, bad decision, big mistake. Wonder wonder if
Speaker 1: anyone and will learn by that and not do that.
Speaker 1: It's like, um, remember the movie Pretty Woman? I do
Speaker 1: when um, oh her name I mean in the movie
Speaker 1: in the movie, I think her character name is. I
Speaker 1: see her face, but what's the actress is name? Famous?
Speaker 1: I know, very famous? She was, No I almost said, no,
Speaker 1: it's not Sandra. I know, um pretty Woman. Um every
Speaker 1: there are people listening to podcast yelling Magnolium Steve Magnolia's
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, she was in that. That was in her career. Yes,
Speaker 1: very very much. This is ridiculous that I think I
Speaker 1: can think of this. Julia Robert Julia, I was starting
Speaker 1: to look it up, but I remembered it right before.
Speaker 1: Good job. So Julia Roberts, she's having that scene where
Speaker 1: she's shopping and going to all those really expensive boot boutiques.
Speaker 1: Drive goes into the first one and she, you know,
Speaker 1: she's dressed kind of in her original shows, and so
Speaker 1: the saleswoman is looking down on her and she doesn't
Speaker 1: end up helping her. The rest of the day she
Speaker 1: does all her shopping. She comes back into that store
Speaker 1: with a bunch of bags. Obviously, I've spent a ton
Speaker 1: of money. Do you work on commission? Yes, we do.
Speaker 1: Big mistake, big huge, the I say to the rams,
Speaker 1: backing up giving jacmart another chance. Big mistake, big huge.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so fact did you're quoting Pretty Woman? Hey man,
Speaker 1: it's relevant. There are some scenes that just stick with you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I remember it now that you're say it, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know where you were. I think of that anytime
Speaker 1: I say big mistake. So yeah, so it's you make
Speaker 1: two penalties in a row. You just had your second
Speaker 1: three and out in a row, and you're like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna get the ball back again, and then Comara just
Speaker 1: blasts it right and then the defense starts throwing three
Speaker 1: and ounce at him on almost every drive. They did
Speaker 1: get one more field goal, but I think it was
Speaker 1: a turning point, and it was well at that point
Speaker 1: it was one of the highest points in the game,
Speaker 1: because truly that was a hard game. I mean, you
Speaker 1: kept thinking when when's it gonna start? When when is
Speaker 1: the team going to kick in gear? Um? Even Jean
Speaker 1: made a comment, do they realize day it was daylight
Speaker 1: savings that day? Forget the day? Did they turned the
Speaker 1: clock back too many too many hours? Um? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was weird. It was. It was largely a field
Speaker 1: position game, and when you have a putter of doing
Speaker 1: what he's doing, you win that field position. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't like the Rams were lighting it up either, by
Speaker 1: the way, well, but their punter was doing great. He
Speaker 1: finished with nine punts at fifty three gross forty three
Speaker 1: point n net, which are fantastic numbers, but it didn't
Speaker 1: hold a candle and um in a field position game.
Speaker 1: At the end, the Rams had an average drive start
Speaker 1: of their twenty two and the Bucks average draft start
Speaker 1: of their thirty one. Speaking of special teams, the blocked
Speaker 1: field goal, Oh, now, this is a pet peeve of mind.
Speaker 1: Well it is mine too, because I believe he did
Speaker 1: touch and I want to look at the film, but
Speaker 1: as it was happening, we thought his his foot caught
Speaker 1: a buck in your player. And that is if you
Speaker 1: leap up. You can leap over a player during a
Speaker 1: field goal, but you can't touch him, and you can't
Speaker 1: use him to help you leap over. And you can
Speaker 1: only start one yard back, so you can't get a
Speaker 1: big long lay. You can't. You can basically take one
Speaker 1: step forward and jump our and you have to time
Speaker 1: it perfectly, obviously, and you have to clear. If your
Speaker 1: foot grazes the back, you're gonna get a penalty if
Speaker 1: they see it. I have not, I've not seen that
Speaker 1: whether that had happened or not. Time came to the poet.
Speaker 1: Time came to the podium on Monday and staid it
Speaker 1: was a clean play. Okay, Well, then you have to
Speaker 1: go with that was that was that? Was that the
Speaker 1: leap or was that the ball? He meant the leap
Speaker 1: was a clean play, okay, because there are you know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, special teams played a major role
Speaker 1: in this game. So this is this is my pet peeve.
Speaker 1: And I may have mentioned this on this podcast before
Speaker 1: because I feel very strongly about this, but I hardly
Speaker 1: ever get anybody to agree with me, So I might
Speaker 1: be on an island here. They changed that rule I
Speaker 1: don't remember when, two thousand seven something like that, to
Speaker 1: make to put in a lot of restrictions, so like
Speaker 1: you can't run up and jump, and you can't like
Speaker 1: you said, he can't use them to propel yourself over,
Speaker 1: largely because they're worried about injuries of people laying. Remember
Speaker 1: Simeon Rice got that penalty from leaping. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: didn't even touch He touched his own teammates and he
Speaker 1: didn't get make a running start. Anyway, We complain about
Speaker 1: that one a lot um. I think that place should
Speaker 1: be a legal period if you're trying to jump over
Speaker 1: the guy, but if you land on them, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a penalty. You're you're doing an action that
Speaker 1: has a very good that you know has a very
Speaker 1: good shot of being a penalty and potentially creating an injury.
Speaker 1: Just make just outlaw the play. Just say you can't
Speaker 1: jump over the line. Why would be What would be
Speaker 1: hard about that? It would? It always feels like a
Speaker 1: huge cheat to me when a guy does that, So
Speaker 1: I would. But if you got a guy that has
Speaker 1: great you know, no if it's a if, it's in
Speaker 1: the rules. But in this case, the the center in
Speaker 1: a in a normal play on offense, the center is
Speaker 1: snapping the ball, but he's looking up on a long snapper.
Speaker 1: The long snappers has his head down and is looking
Speaker 1: through his legs, and we'll never get up in time,
Speaker 1: and we'll never know that the guy's leaping over him.
Speaker 1: That's why nobody does it on an offensive play. They're
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the fact that down. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the rule where you can't line
Speaker 1: up a blocker right across from the long snapper, so
Speaker 1: why can't somebody jump over him. I'll bring it up
Speaker 1: to the commission. Okay, you do that, because he's are
Speaker 1: you seeing him? Shortly? I'm going to see him in Germany.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be on Buck's radio. How about actually was joking? No,
Speaker 1: I am serious, You're serious. I have we've been uh,
Speaker 1: we're we've been in communication. And yes, he's gonna ask
Speaker 1: him all the hard questions. He's gonna be live with us.
Speaker 1: How about that. It's neat. It is very cool, um
Speaker 1: so to fin it, to rep put a bow on
Speaker 1: the commarda discussion. And by the way, I've already written
Speaker 1: the Jacob Marta a special Teams Player of the Week.
Speaker 1: And I think he gets if he doesn't win it,
Speaker 1: it's a crime. And you don't you don't think they
Speaker 1: give it to the Chargers kicker because he kicked two
Speaker 1: field goals, one to tie. I want to win the game.
Speaker 1: Happens all the time. Yeah, and they weren't very long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that happens all the time. All right. I'm just checking
Speaker 1: to see punted six times. He Among those six points
Speaker 1: were three of the eight longest points in franchise history.
Speaker 1: His seventy four yard and we've been talking about was
Speaker 1: the best ever was tied a Shawn Lindetta punt. I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played forever. We were kind of near the end
Speaker 1: of his career. Very much near the end of his career.
Speaker 1: His his fifty nine point five gross average ties for
Speaker 1: the best ever in NFL history if you had at
Speaker 1: least six points in the game. His fifty four point
Speaker 1: to net average is the third best in in a
Speaker 1: six point game six months or more. Ever, they're both
Speaker 1: by far buccaneer records. You wrote this story because you
Speaker 1: feel like he deserves it, and you just ahead of
Speaker 1: the curb because he's gonna get it. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to write it at some point you believe he's getting it.
Speaker 1: And then I mean, I don't have any inside information,
Speaker 1: but you just the way you follow stats and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. You're like, oh, this game was too important.
Speaker 1: What special teams player this week could have possibly and
Speaker 1: it's by It's only NFC, so we don't have to
Speaker 1: have to worry about the Chargers. Well there you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough. Probably yelling at podcast about that right now too. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're yelling, let me explain something about programming. If
Speaker 1: you can make the listener respond to what you're saying
Speaker 1: and doing, then you're you are engaging them. Could just
Speaker 1: what you want? Couldn't I do that? Then? By consistently
Speaker 1: saying false things so that they're yelling like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's a network that is making
Speaker 1: millions and billions of dollars being that kind of the
Speaker 1: hot take kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: don't don't let facts of a get in the way
Speaker 1: of a good story. Crying out loud you okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just needed something to drink. Okay. Uh So anyway,
Speaker 1: so you you're here on this Tuesday. They announced it
Speaker 1: what on Wednesday, so they they'll decide tonight. So we
Speaker 1: just you know, they announced around eight thirty, so we
Speaker 1: like to be ready. Yeah, we're always ready. It's not
Speaker 1: a hard story to write. It kind of wrote itself,
Speaker 1: didn't It was fun? Okay. I just can't imagine there's
Speaker 1: another single special teams player in the NFC this week
Speaker 1: who next Tuesday. If it doesn't happen, you are going
Speaker 1: to be very salty on I would say something like
Speaker 1: I'll eat my socks if he doesn't. But um, I
Speaker 1: don't trust the NFL that much to get this right.
Speaker 1: How is it? But how is it? How could any
Speaker 1: how anybody in their right mind with a with a computer,
Speaker 1: with with with the facts of having gen stats around you.
Speaker 1: How could you not make this happen? That's my question. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I've written everything I can. That was my
Speaker 1: sidebar after the story was on how often do you
Speaker 1: is your main sidebar after a game on the punter?
Speaker 1: But it was his. He was how many players do
Speaker 1: you have to get down to for him to not
Speaker 1: be in this group? Okay? Would you say he was
Speaker 1: one of the five most important players to that victory? Yes? Maybe,
Speaker 1: also Tom Vida, Vea Cade, Maybe yeah, because Cade had
Speaker 1: a couple of good catch he had to one over
Speaker 1: the middle and that dry he had two big catches.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of our offensive lignement because of the protection
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Okay, Okay. Was he one of the
Speaker 1: top four? I'd say top three you would put yeah,
Speaker 1: because I honestly believe if he doesn't kick that seventy
Speaker 1: four yard or and flipped the field as far back
Speaker 1: as he did, he could have been an easy three
Speaker 1: points as far back as we were, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they could they would get in
Speaker 1: field gold range very quickly. So and he just didn't
Speaker 1: have any clonkers. He didn't have any shrinks, so he
Speaker 1: and and honestly, he could have had, uh about let's
Speaker 1: see three and a half more yards added to his net,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are plenty of people out there
Speaker 1: were convinced that last point that hit quote unquote hit
Speaker 1: the goal line didn't really hit the goal line. Dad.
Speaker 1: It's so bizarre about that is the official came over
Speaker 1: and told allegedly the story I heard, and correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. The official came over and told Todd
Speaker 1: that they've already looked at it and it's not going
Speaker 1: to change. And so you know, don't don't challenge. Basically,
Speaker 1: you're gonna waste your time out, and they eventually needed
Speaker 1: that time out. But if they're already telling you that,
Speaker 1: then that's a challenge, right, I mean, they pre challenged
Speaker 1: for you, which I don't understand. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the exactly right way to represent that, because
Speaker 1: what Todd said the podium was they told him they
Speaker 1: couldn't tell, and I thought by that they meant the
Speaker 1: refs on the field. Okay, so they're like, we can't tell,
Speaker 1: and then Todd himself is getting information from upstairs and
Speaker 1: they said they can't. No, Wells had a pretty good
Speaker 1: shot at it, and I think it would be it
Speaker 1: was gonna stand either way. Well, yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: think it was enough to make you say, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be conclusive. But I think there's at
Speaker 1: least a fifty percent chance that they did not hit
Speaker 1: the line because when they when they slow it down
Speaker 1: and stop it right at the point of contact, I
Speaker 1: can't tell. Yeah, I'm biased. I think I don't think
Speaker 1: that's touching the white. But all has to do is
Speaker 1: touch the very very edge of the white. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have to cross it. But my god, that's amazing. He's
Speaker 1: booming all these he's booming all these sixty eight yard
Speaker 1: ars and then when he's only what what, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure how far away? Oh when it he how
Speaker 1: far the punt was before before they took the yardage away?
Speaker 1: You know how far away were we when we were
Speaker 1: putting them? All is? You have to Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to look at it. I mean it's hard to remember. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it was it was early in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It was a sixty six or a point. See, that's
Speaker 1: pretty strong punt punding at sixty six yards to the
Speaker 1: very edge of the goal line and then having it
Speaker 1: bounce sideways. Yeah, that's incredible. And so he basically missed
Speaker 1: by a centimeter. Another one of the most incredible punch
Speaker 1: you'll ever see, right, Ye. So anyway, I guess that's
Speaker 1: enough on the punter. But but but you know what
Speaker 1: usually you only talk about the punter is when they
Speaker 1: shank one, you know, or they make a mistake or
Speaker 1: they didn't make the tackle. He also had two tackles. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: there's that. That was great. During the press conference win
Speaker 1: so he was like, do you because he's got four
Speaker 1: tackles now and he he kicks off two so we
Speaker 1: can get tackles on kickof He's like the acts Todd,
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with with your putter making that many tackles?
Speaker 1: And he said, no, I am not. So he's not
Speaker 1: a big guy. I mean, he's not that small for
Speaker 1: a putterer. No, but I'm just saying it's not you know.
Speaker 1: You know what it was like, how about this comparison
Speaker 1: was it was like watching Steph Curry when he gets
Speaker 1: into one of those zones and he can just he's
Speaker 1: he hits from the three point line, then he hits
Speaker 1: from five ft behind the three point line. And then
Speaker 1: he's pulling up five yards over the over half court
Speaker 1: and he's just he's draining everything. Here's Jake. He's he's
Speaker 1: putting a sixty six yard then he's putting a sixty
Speaker 1: eight yard, and he's putting a seventy four yarder. He
Speaker 1: was didn't matter how far away you put him, he was.
Speaker 1: He was making it happen. So I just made a
Speaker 1: Jake camarda Steph Curry reference reference that will probably never
Speaker 1: happen again. If you want to know a little bit
Speaker 1: more about about Jake and and um Ryan suck Up.
Speaker 1: They were on Bucks Total Access and very interesting listening
Speaker 1: to them talk and talk about different grasses. It sounds weird,
Speaker 1: but different grasses, Yeah, on fields, like how it affects
Speaker 1: how they kick, how they get their footing. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's really kind of you know, you go, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, we got lucky because we got them. Both
Speaker 1: of them had great games. They're very valuable to this game. So, um,
Speaker 1: it was an interesting listen to if you want to
Speaker 1: get a little a little dive into. It's not something
Speaker 1: that you always hear about, but it would be. It's
Speaker 1: it's a good stuff. I was thinking that after the
Speaker 1: game that maybe it would be a good idea to
Speaker 1: ask Jake to come on here. But then I thought,
Speaker 1: he's probably this is probably week he's gonna be asked
Speaker 1: to do a lot of stuff. And then you and
Speaker 1: I thought about it. And with the short week, with
Speaker 1: the things condensed a little bit because of the travel community. Yeah, yesterday,
Speaker 1: they had a long day yesterday, and then they're off
Speaker 1: today Wednesday. We would normally get them on Wednesday, run lunchtime.
Speaker 1: But Wednesday isn't crazy. Wednesdays are crazy, but especially this week, right,
Speaker 1: Wednesday is gonna be crazy. Thursday is gonna be you
Speaker 1: and crazier. Well, it will be crazy to get on
Speaker 1: the plane and you do. You're like, oh great, now
Speaker 1: I got ten hours keep forgetting when I'm at home
Speaker 1: to load up entertainment unlike a tablet or something. Well,
Speaker 1: there is entertainment on, I know, but you never know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get. Well, I'm kind of hoping that
Speaker 1: the Elvis movies on there and Top Guns on there
Speaker 1: because I could watch You have not seen the new Well,
Speaker 1: the last the last the last game away game went
Speaker 1: to I was but it was only like an It
Speaker 1: was an hour flight and I'm not going to watch
Speaker 1: a movie and then go. Someone goes, We'll just watching
Speaker 1: and then continue it. No that I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, I know, but I want to watch the
Speaker 1: whole things I did that. I think the Pittsburgh Trip
Speaker 1: with the with the old Tom Cruise movie the Firm,
Speaker 1: that's a good movie. It was good, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to see how how well it held up. It's weird
Speaker 1: to see a movie where Wilford Brimley is the bad guy.
Speaker 1: I like it. But yeah, that that movie was pretty good. Featured,
Speaker 1: of course, a lot of Tom running like Tom runs
Speaker 1: and movies, and a very young Tom Brady. But that
Speaker 1: New Top Gun. Not only do I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Way exceeded my expectations, but every single person I've talked
Speaker 1: about it has felt the same way. I have not
Speaker 1: heard one negative word about that movie. Yeah I heard.
Speaker 1: I made a comment about watching it on the plane
Speaker 1: and someone said, you gotta see it on the big screen.
Speaker 1: And I get that, you know, let me be the judge.
Speaker 1: Now that I've already seen it on the big screen,
Speaker 1: I can maybe watch it again on some there you go,
Speaker 1: maybe that, But anyway, I would go ahead and watch it,
Speaker 1: well you to find mindless stuff. But as back to
Speaker 1: the short week, it it's it's going to be you know,
Speaker 1: well not only it's a short week, but it's not
Speaker 1: a short week because Thursday is practiced like normal and
Speaker 1: then um, we leave late in the afternoon and then
Speaker 1: on Friday after we land in Munich a few hours
Speaker 1: later than there is practice. So as you think, oh,
Speaker 1: they're not practicing for this, they are. It's pretty much
Speaker 1: staying the same. Uh, Friday schedule will be the same
Speaker 1: as if we were here. And then on Saturday they're
Speaker 1: having the walkthrough as if they always do before a game,
Speaker 1: they have a walkthrough and and this time it will
Speaker 1: be at the stadium so they get a feel for
Speaker 1: the stadium itself, the grass, the locker room. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: it sounds weird, but it is nice to be able
Speaker 1: to go someplace before game day and look around and
Speaker 1: get familiarized with it. It does make a difference and
Speaker 1: so you're not just kind of lost. So that'll that'll be. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very fast short week, how's that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there's challenges, so we thought let's not add another
Speaker 1: challenge to a player to a player's schedule, and then
Speaker 1: and then next week. It's by week. Unfortunately, it's not
Speaker 1: too hard to find a lot to talk about it. Game.
Speaker 1: Oh man, there are people and I've already looked at
Speaker 1: the questions. We got three of like three of them
Speaker 1: came in today. It was pretty light and I'm like, oh, hey, here,
Speaker 1: now we go. Uh. There are several references to ugly wins,
Speaker 1: which we talked about earlier. Um, we're we're broken records
Speaker 1: about on this subject. I've seen so many pretty losses.
Speaker 1: I don't care to see anymore. The NFL was all
Speaker 1: about ugly wins this week, right, It wasn't just US Minnesota. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Minnesota barely held on UM and then Kirk Cousins started
Speaker 1: doing his day. He started he pulled out the freaking
Speaker 1: you like that thing again? Yeah, that's the that's okay,
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Do you think they care that that was
Speaker 1: not an ugly win? Yeah? They had to have some
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes running. They had a lot of let's how
Speaker 1: you're salty about this. Let's just say luck was on
Speaker 1: their side. There are a couple of things that that
Speaker 1: I just don't you know, if there's a rule that
Speaker 1: you can't take your helmet off when you're on the field,
Speaker 1: then you should call that at all times. And there
Speaker 1: was in our game a player took their helmet off.
Speaker 1: He took his helmet off after the big stop. Um.
Speaker 1: And that was the same crew that called taking your
Speaker 1: helmet off against the Carolina Panther wide receiver after the touchdown,
Speaker 1: which they end up missing the extra point and then
Speaker 1: losing the game. And then you know, a star tight
Speaker 1: end for the Kansas City Chiefs flings his helmet and
Speaker 1: there's no flag. Um. You were also pretty salty about
Speaker 1: all the chances they had the four four count them more.
Speaker 1: If you keep holding, they're gonna keep getting new play. Dude,
Speaker 1: this famous tight end had his hands on the defender's
Speaker 1: helmet like this, and they called it on the defender
Speaker 1: you're mad at I'm just saying it just seemed different, Chargers.
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't care who won the game.
Speaker 1: I just like to see you know, like, hey, come on,
Speaker 1: you know you want to You don't want to see
Speaker 1: somebody a team unfairly gets. I mean, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: it's human to air and it's never gonna be perfect.
Speaker 1: And I and I you know how they make calls
Speaker 1: as fast as they do, and that's very different. Of
Speaker 1: the time they're right, and it's really easy to watch
Speaker 1: it in slow mo, but sometimes there is I mean,
Speaker 1: and I guess you can miss it because you can't
Speaker 1: see it because someone's blocking your vision. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: on the field and what's going on. I think if
Speaker 1: you're the guy that was that was making the call
Speaker 1: on on the point at the goalie we were just
Speaker 1: talking about, he's looking down that line that ball hits
Speaker 1: from replay imperceptibly did touch the line or not. He's
Speaker 1: got to make a decision right, and he probably got
Speaker 1: it right. But either way, I wouldn't blame him for
Speaker 1: getting it wrong because he's gonna make a split second
Speaker 1: or another. I don't think. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: ever want that job, because no matter how good you are,
Speaker 1: there's always someone yelling at you. So I think that
Speaker 1: you could've and I've done some humping for softball and
Speaker 1: youth youth baseball, I think you can legitimately have a
Speaker 1: game where you get almost everything right as an umpire.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that can happen in football. No,
Speaker 1: I just much going on with the speed and the
Speaker 1: violence and and so many players. Most baseball transactions plays
Speaker 1: are basically between one or two players. I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't have to know what the left fielder is doing
Speaker 1: when you're calling a strike. So um, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I went down and refin in
Speaker 1: the in the in the NBA would be even worse
Speaker 1: because everything I can't watch that, I know. I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of that. The only time I watch NBA
Speaker 1: is whin it's the playoffs and it's the Warriors. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: you have a favorite team. No, I just like watching stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have a favorite players, different than a favorite team.
Speaker 1: I digressed on that, but yeah, you're right, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of I don't know, it's just really weird
Speaker 1: when you when I mean, look at the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: uh and the Lions game? Well, how crazy was that game?
Speaker 1: I mean you're thinking, you know, this isn't gonna hold up,
Speaker 1: and the Lions held on, you know, and they made
Speaker 1: big plays. Two interceptions in the end zone. It's a
Speaker 1: third in the red zone. Yeah, that's actually the point
Speaker 1: I was working towards before I got sidelines. No, No,
Speaker 1: I did it to myself. I was talking about the
Speaker 1: teams that got ugly wins. Okay, Tampa Bay did by
Speaker 1: by the definition of by what people want to call
Speaker 1: the ugly ways A Minnesota did, Kansas City did, Chargers
Speaker 1: did the Chargers game? Did you see how Let's get back?
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers notably did not get the ugly win.
Speaker 1: I think most people watching the game figure they'd eventually
Speaker 1: come back and just you know, eke one out over
Speaker 1: the lines because the lines have been pretty bad and
Speaker 1: the Packers have generally owned the Lions. Right, Oh, they
Speaker 1: have no question. But it didn't happen. So hey, I'm
Speaker 1: much happier to be a Bucks employee than a Packer's
Speaker 1: employee right now. And I'll take I'll take eight more
Speaker 1: ugly wins before the season's over. If that's how they're
Speaker 1: going to happen. I'll take an ugly win in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I don't care about ugly wins. And and
Speaker 1: this ugly win was actually really thrilling. It was you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: as as frustrating as that game was, talk about a high,
Speaker 1: when it was over, it was like it washed away
Speaker 1: all the frustration. It was. It was like and then
Speaker 1: you can look back and go, well, hey, our defense
Speaker 1: was actually pretty darn good. You know that when that
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup sixty nine, I think whatever you touchdown happened
Speaker 1: as a busted play for sure, there was I just
Speaker 1: the level of that happened. Are you kidding me? That
Speaker 1: can't happen. I didn't hear that one in particular. But
Speaker 1: and I'm not even necessarily talking about the pressfects. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there were people in the in the stands or
Speaker 1: watching the TV who are livid about that, But listen,
Speaker 1: look at the whole that was. That was basically there
Speaker 1: one great play of the whole game. I think Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup had one other like that, one great play just
Speaker 1: about beat you. That was the only touchdown that the
Speaker 1: defense allowed. They allowed two yards and nine first downs,
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup had like more than of their yardage.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup has been demolishing everybody for the last two years,
Speaker 1: and I mean look at his status from this year.
Speaker 1: Everything else about the Rams offense has gone wrong, but
Speaker 1: somehow he still put up the same numbers as he
Speaker 1: did last year. Theoretically, if you can keep Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: from having like two yards and three touchdowns and just
Speaker 1: make sure nobody else on that offense hurts you. You've
Speaker 1: got a great chance of winning, so let's not flip
Speaker 1: out every one touchdown. Yeah, but I felt bad. I
Speaker 1: think I think the reason why people would flip out
Speaker 1: over that is because it's Cooper Cup and he's running
Speaker 1: down busted play. That's and that's what Todd said. It
Speaker 1: was totally a bust. Nobody went, now, listen, we don't
Speaker 1: need a cover Cooper on this one. Yeah, that happens,
Speaker 1: and he's a great player, he makes things happen. But yards,
Speaker 1: nine touchdown, nine first downs, one touchdown, that was their
Speaker 1: only touchdown. I mean, if you told me before the game,
Speaker 1: Cooper Couple is gonna score, but that would be their
Speaker 1: only touchdown, you'd take it. Yeah. No, there's no question.
Speaker 1: I think. I think losing five out of six games,
Speaker 1: the frustration factor was so high that no matter what
Speaker 1: happened in that game, people were getting were cranky, they
Speaker 1: were salty as a matter of fact. And then that
Speaker 1: particular play, it's like, are you kidding me? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if you don't do anything else, just keep
Speaker 1: an eye on Cooper Cup. And but it was one touchdown.
Speaker 1: You ended up winning the game. So it's all good.
Speaker 1: But I think I really believe winning that game. It's
Speaker 1: just everything feels different. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm hope i'm not,
Speaker 1: but it just feels different. Since you one, This is
Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make. You can look
Speaker 1: back and see all the positives, and I'm basically saying
Speaker 1: the defense look great. Um, right, Yeah, the the run
Speaker 1: defense was good, although the Rams have a terrible rushing attack. Um.
Speaker 1: You would be feeling a little silly singing the praises
Speaker 1: of your puncher after a loss, right, But now you
Speaker 1: can look back and say, how well the special teams did. Suck.
Speaker 1: I've had that one black, but that's obviously not his fault.
Speaker 1: He made another fifty, made two others which obviously made
Speaker 1: the difference in the final score. Jalen Darten, he's getting
Speaker 1: you ten yards every time now and he had eight
Speaker 1: eight punt returns for eight two yards, also very important
Speaker 1: in the field position game we were talking about. Um,
Speaker 1: he's like seventh in the league in punt return average,
Speaker 1: which is sneakily surprised. That's so you can look back
Speaker 1: at it, and then you can look back and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: the offense wasn't wasn't great, and we couldn't generate any
Speaker 1: big but it was there when we needed it, and
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller and Kay Dott and gave Tom some other
Speaker 1: options when there they're gonna, we're not gonna let Mike
Speaker 1: Evans and Chris beat us at the at the sidelines
Speaker 1: and they're they're bracketing those guys and Scotty Miller and
Speaker 1: kid don't were able to step up. I was surprised,
Speaker 1: uh that Tom had a couple of balls batted down
Speaker 1: like that. It doesn't happen very much with him, and
Speaker 1: that's what that's a passing lane or they just knew
Speaker 1: where to go, but you know, you can't. You know,
Speaker 1: the Rams defense was pretty good. You know there's a
Speaker 1: guy in there, you know nine, he's pretty strong. So
Speaker 1: Ramsey is great. Huh, Bobby Wagner, he's doing well. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Rams flying back to U. L A.
Speaker 1: We're thinking, how they let one get wet would have
Speaker 1: done the same thing. We have. We have to close
Speaker 1: them out. We have to close them out, have to
Speaker 1: play full and they kind of said that. Well, Ramsey
Speaker 1: kind of threw his offense underneath the bus after in
Speaker 1: the in the locker room, which is which is so
Speaker 1: that But but again that's frustration because they're not winning either.
Speaker 1: What are they three and six now or six and five,
Speaker 1: three and five, three and five? So you give up
Speaker 1: the Cooper Cup TV. But that was the only play
Speaker 1: in the entire first half that was longer than five yards.
Speaker 1: But it just seem like it was. It was bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad. But think about they ran I don't know,
Speaker 1: let's see a number of first half plays. There weren't
Speaker 1: that many plays. I mean, defensively ran twenty seven first
Speaker 1: half plays and game five yards or fewer. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Well, they didn't really have that many
Speaker 1: offensive plays to begin with. They think they only but
Speaker 1: they only that's on the low side, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a little low, um, but that's what happens
Speaker 1: when you do eight three and ounce. Uh. They only average.
Speaker 1: The best number here is they only average three point
Speaker 1: seven yards per play. That's that's quite low. That's very good.
Speaker 1: So so it's a nice building block for the for
Speaker 1: the Bay Buccaneer. You saw I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: I saw this in the stat sheet and I know
Speaker 1: Gerard Avery got a sack when he was chasing Matthew
Speaker 1: towards the end of that game, and Matthew it kind
Speaker 1: of slid down Stafford. I don't know why I'm calling
Speaker 1: him Matthew. We're not buddings, hey, Maddie. Um yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But he also had three quarterback hits. I didn't even
Speaker 1: see that happen. That was but that was that was good.
Speaker 1: Because you're without check Barrett, Anthony Elson has to step
Speaker 1: up in Jennard's now the fourth man. I like what
Speaker 1: Todd had to say about Nacho, that that Nacho has
Speaker 1: missed more sacks than sacks that he got. He said
Speaker 1: this on his radio show, and that he did get
Speaker 1: the sack, and Nacho is not letting Todd forget that.
Speaker 1: He got to say, well, I can understand why they
Speaker 1: people both be talking about it because Nacho has been
Speaker 1: here since two thousand and eighteen. Wow, that was his
Speaker 1: first sack as a buccaneer. Well, like he said, he
Speaker 1: missed more sackings. I mean, that's that's obviously not generally
Speaker 1: his role. He's the reserve, no stackle, he's plugging up
Speaker 1: the middle and stopping the run. But every now and then,
Speaker 1: you know you always expect to sack. That's the first one,
Speaker 1: and he gets it. I was happy for him. You know,
Speaker 1: Vita Vea played like everyone was wondering what happened to
Speaker 1: him and what's going on? And uh, he certainly was
Speaker 1: very And now he's up to what seven and a
Speaker 1: half sacks something like that. He had what two and
Speaker 1: two sacks? He had two sacks and three QB hits.
Speaker 1: So certainly with a Cheam Hicks coming in now you
Speaker 1: have to pay attention. You can't necessarily double team. He's
Speaker 1: got six have sacks with eight games to go. Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean he went to the Pro Bowl last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he gets anywhere near double digits, he's a lot
Speaker 1: to go. I'll tell you who else had a pretty
Speaker 1: decent game, I'm sure, because he sure got beat up
Speaker 1: a week ago. But Devin White had a pretty decent game.
Speaker 1: Good played much better, much better. He seemed to be
Speaker 1: doing what he was supposed to do. So hopefully that
Speaker 1: is ability. I think he got started earlier. They ran
Speaker 1: like one of those jet sweeps to Cooper Cup and
Speaker 1: this is early early in the game, and he came
Speaker 1: around the back and made the tackle from behind. Uh,
Speaker 1: from all the way across the field and it was
Speaker 1: only like a two yard game. We did a very
Speaker 1: good job on their jet sweeps and their attempts to
Speaker 1: get Cup and a couple of other guys around the perimeter.
Speaker 1: So we we gave up the one bust a Cup,
Speaker 1: but we didn't give up those plays around the edge,
Speaker 1: and and ty Bo said that was a very important thing,
Speaker 1: and that leads me to the next thing. Carlton Davis
Speaker 1: was back, Sean Murphy Bunting was back. He hadn't been starting,
Speaker 1: but in this last few games he would have been
Speaker 1: playing a lot with Antoine Winfield out, so he steps
Speaker 1: back into the slot. And I don't know how all
Speaker 1: those guys him, those two and Jamal Dean graded out,
Speaker 1: but the numbers overall tell me they did a good job.
Speaker 1: And Todd said that Carlton and Sean and Jamal were
Speaker 1: very good on the prairies on those jet suite So
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. We're getting some guys back. I'm
Speaker 1: crossing my fingers at Anton Winfield will be back, because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm his biggest thing. Well yeah, and concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: that's that's never You just don't know when, but it's
Speaker 1: been a couple of weeks now, So I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping he feels better. It's my point. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not hoping. No, Well, the thing is is that he
Speaker 1: has been feeling better, but it's just a question of
Speaker 1: are you ready to take another hit? Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: can't know that till you just there's like five steps
Speaker 1: in the protocol, and you know it would be a
Speaker 1: great He did start practicing on a limited fashion at
Speaker 1: the end of last week, although they knew he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna play. If tomorrow he's practicing fully, then you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: hopefully that means he's close to the and he'll be
Speaker 1: ready by Sunday. That's what I'm hoping. Not I'm not
Speaker 1: here hoping that he would play even though he wasn't ready,
Speaker 1: because obviously I don't want that. I want him to
Speaker 1: be healthy, and then that will also be a great
Speaker 1: boon to the defense. Right, Okay, we're probably about done
Speaker 1: here before The question is, but a couple of things
Speaker 1: from around the NFL. How about the how about the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. I don't even know what to say on that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. I it's I
Speaker 1: think what. Well, a couple of things. One, you hold
Speaker 1: a press conference during a Monday night football game, so
Speaker 1: that might have been the really strategic move. Um. The
Speaker 1: fact that Jeff Saturday was an ESPN quit cracking your knuckles,
Speaker 1: uh ambience was a an analyst for ESPN. Also, he
Speaker 1: was on the NFL network quite a bit too. That
Speaker 1: he was a paid consultant for the Colts, which a
Speaker 1: conflict of interest. Okay, that's not where I thought we
Speaker 1: were going out, But I'm just saying that's that that
Speaker 1: that that was like a flag to me, like, okay,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? But that being said, he has
Speaker 1: no coaching experience, you know, high school. Oh yeah, no
Speaker 1: professional or college experience as a coach. Um, there's only
Speaker 1: one other coach that that in NFL history has done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard this note, but I don't remember the name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was the Dutchman. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: think was his nickname, the Flying Dutchman. Um. I think
Speaker 1: that everybody out there probably knows we're talking about. Just
Speaker 1: in case they don't. The Cults fired Frank Reich, which
Speaker 1: was the first surprise, because I think I'm of the
Speaker 1: opinion and I think the majority of NFL Observer's opinion.
Speaker 1: He's he was a pretty good he was pretty good
Speaker 1: coach overall. It was pretty good coach. Never anything about
Speaker 1: internal strife there. The problem that they the problem that
Speaker 1: they had there was they kept changing quarterbacks. And that's
Speaker 1: the question of who made the decision on Well, Frank
Speaker 1: Reich would admit that it was him who pushed for
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Well, yeah, because he had success with him
Speaker 1: and then he left. He he apologized to Jim Mercy
Speaker 1: after that was all over before pushing for Carson Wins
Speaker 1: because it didn't work out. Norm Van Brocklyn Nor Brocklyn. No,
Speaker 1: he's oh, he played in the league. He played in
Speaker 1: the league. So no, No, I'm just saying that. That's
Speaker 1: how I know the name. Yes, he it's a pretty
Speaker 1: prominent He's what I'm saying. We're talking about a Hall
Speaker 1: of fame. So that doesn't mean he was a good coach.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm he coached for the Vikings and
Speaker 1: the Falcons. So they fire two weeks ago, they fire, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's get these in order. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many weeks ago, but let's say like three
Speaker 1: weeks ago. They bench Matt Ryan and starts starting former
Speaker 1: six rounders Sam Elinger, who nobody thinks is a particularly
Speaker 1: good candidate help long term quarterback correct but maybe his
Speaker 1: mobility would help them out little bit that has worked out.
Speaker 1: This first starts terrible. They fire Marcus Brady, the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Things don't get any better. The next game. They fire
Speaker 1: um frank Reich, who, as I said, I think is
Speaker 1: a good coach, and and then they stunt everybody by
Speaker 1: hiring Jeff Saturday, who and then I feel for the
Speaker 1: pr guy who had to write in the release it
Speaker 1: was like he's a Colts consultant, a member of the
Speaker 1: team's Ring of Honor, and a former center and a
Speaker 1: former uh he and he coached in high school for
Speaker 1: a few seasons that whatever Lebron something in Georgia, it
Speaker 1: would be short and sweet. I mean just that you
Speaker 1: had to write that as those were the top things
Speaker 1: you could think of to say, this is why we
Speaker 1: hired this guy. So here's the interesting part. The Rooney
Speaker 1: rule does not apply to this. Okay, so what do
Speaker 1: you do if he wins out? Well, I think you
Speaker 1: have to go through the hiring process because he's interim
Speaker 1: head coach right now. I think he's still at the end,
Speaker 1: would have to go through the hiring process. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a it was Did you see any of the
Speaker 1: press conference at all? It was interesting being said that
Speaker 1: it's good that he doesn't have any coaching experience because
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the the fearness that coaches had that
Speaker 1: that so they lean on analytics. Yeah, you lean on
Speaker 1: analytic he doesn't have the fear that. Yeah, like he's
Speaker 1: gotta like me. He looks at the numbers and goes,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean to equate those two things
Speaker 1: that he's saying that coaches with NFL experience to get
Speaker 1: those jobs and then they're scared, so they rely on
Speaker 1: analytics what I mean, Unless he's replying to like playing
Speaker 1: that to like Brandon Staley, I don't know what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. I don't. I don't know anyway, but yes,
Speaker 1: it it is. That is the um. Well, they don't
Speaker 1: have anybody that's called plays there. Yeah, they just decided to.
Speaker 1: I think his name is Parks Fraser. He's the assistant
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. So why wouldn't you have Matt Ryan become
Speaker 1: your offensive court He knows because he knows the playbook
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he'll be good at picking the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time. I mean he might be. He well,
Speaker 1: how would you know, but at least go with the
Speaker 1: stats that you know you got a better shot at it.
Speaker 1: How's the quarterback coach going to be any better? He
Speaker 1: might be, who knows. I don't know if he's a
Speaker 1: good play caller. I don't know if Matt Right is
Speaker 1: a good well yeah, well you don't know until you
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but I don't think that just because
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan knows the playbook very well means he would
Speaker 1: necessarily be good at calling plays. Okay, hmm, but that
Speaker 1: is kind of an unusual Uh, that's that's the fun
Speaker 1: part about the NFL. Josh, when you think it's settling in,
Speaker 1: something new happened and the the upheaval continues in Carolina
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. Yeah, they fired another coach, which I
Speaker 1: think they fired two more of them. Yeah, the way
Speaker 1: I read it, sort of clearing out the Matt ruled loyalists. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes when that happens, their guys are a little
Speaker 1: disgruntled or there, you know, for whatever reason, they say,
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna cut, We're gonna cut, We're
Speaker 1: gonna let you go. Anyways, at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's right. They have contracts, so they'll
Speaker 1: still get paid for Yeah, they get paid, They get paid.
Speaker 1: They probably figure it was over at the end of
Speaker 1: the year anyway. And it's just and maybe if someone's
Speaker 1: kind of MOPy or they just feel whatever reason, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just I'm clapping and happy for any amount of
Speaker 1: upheaval for one of our division rights. Wow, it seems
Speaker 1: to the Saints are saying they're sticking with Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: just be pretty bad before that was not good. That
Speaker 1: was Jamie sitting right there that I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say that is because they don't want him to make
Speaker 1: the big mistakes, right right, But but didn't didn't in
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton make a couple of big mistakes. Well not
Speaker 1: only that, I mean they signed him what for a
Speaker 1: couple They didn't just sign him for one year, So
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. But that's a new head
Speaker 1: coach there too, So again you don't know what the
Speaker 1: you know, how it plays out, but the fact is
Speaker 1: that it worked in our favor. They didn't win. We
Speaker 1: want to just keep winning. So there's that. We um
Speaker 1: we We signed outside lanebacker Charles Snowdon to the practice
Speaker 1: squad today. We did and cut jojo Ozougu who just
Speaker 1: signed last week. I just liked the name Charles Snowdon.
Speaker 1: Have you did you ever read Catch twenty two, which
Speaker 1: is my favorite book I have, But I don't remember
Speaker 1: the name. But Snowdon was the guy who was dying
Speaker 1: in the airplane the whole Okay, they kept coming back
Speaker 1: to that scene and kept dying in the airplane. Um,
Speaker 1: well that he's an edge rusher. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. He's just he was in former undrafted,
Speaker 1: he's played two games for the Bears or something. It's
Speaker 1: it's just I guess they think he's better than Jojoeg
Speaker 1: had to try it with him a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago and said, okay, well, I got other things on
Speaker 1: my list. But we were going for a while. We
Speaker 1: got to get two questions. I would you like to
Speaker 1: move on? Yeah, let's do that. Let's go. Let's roll
Speaker 1: into that. Let me fire up the old laptop. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: where the where the live? You don't even know your own? Uh,
Speaker 1: that's your third time you're putting in your past. I
Speaker 1: messed it up every time. I know what it is,
Speaker 1: my fingers. I'm looking over there and I'm thinking, is
Speaker 1: he hacking into somebody? My fingers? My it wasn't getting
Speaker 1: from my That's called you got fat fingers. It happens
Speaker 1: all the time. Well, it happens when you're you know,
Speaker 1: when you don't really I've got small hands. I do too,
Speaker 1: But I was just saying when I when i'm when
Speaker 1: I'm texting and it doesn't go right, I just say, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: my fat fingers. Yeah, that was one of That was
Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm happy that Alex got
Speaker 1: from Giselle. Not me, but she and he have long fings,
Speaker 1: which I think helped him in his baseball career. See
Speaker 1: give us a picture. I do remember, all right, Michael
Speaker 1: Spala from Connecticut. Okay, I remember. This is a long one,
Speaker 1: but I'll get through it. I'm only doing four so hey, guys,
Speaker 1: good god, that was ugly yesterday. See I told you,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the length of this email, but here
Speaker 1: we go. I'm glad the boys got the win because
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. I know. The line isn't what
Speaker 1: it was last year, but I think they're holding their own.
Speaker 1: What I don't understand is why Lenny looks so hesitant
Speaker 1: before he hits the whole. When he has a full
Speaker 1: head of steam. He's obviously tough to bring down, but
Speaker 1: he looks like he's dancing behind line trying to pick
Speaker 1: his gap. Is this the play design or are the
Speaker 1: holes just not there? When Rashotte is in, he seems
Speaker 1: he seems to be exploding through the line and it's
Speaker 1: had some really nice runs. Lenny has earned the right
Speaker 1: to be in with his performance over the last two years,
Speaker 1: but he just seems off outside of the first game
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys thoughts. Okay, yeah, there's more, but let's
Speaker 1: stop and do that one al right. First of all,
Speaker 1: a lot of the running plays the buckets run are
Speaker 1: out of what's called duo and that's you're trying to
Speaker 1: get double teams on multiple defenders and then you let
Speaker 1: the the back pick the whole. It's it's not like
Speaker 1: like it's it's not the same as the thing is
Speaker 1: like stretch outside stretch runs where you run laterally and
Speaker 1: the blockers are moving laterally and then you caught up
Speaker 1: when you find the hole, right or you cut back
Speaker 1: behind behind the motion in that direction duo is mostly downhill,
Speaker 1: and you might if you got you got it tied
Speaker 1: end there you've got six blockers there that can double
Speaker 1: team up to three guys, and then you're hoping that
Speaker 1: creates a lane somewhere right and then the running back
Speaker 1: finds it and hits it. And so if there, if
Speaker 1: you see Lenny dancing, because he probably it's probably do yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's not he's not seen a lane. He's waiting
Speaker 1: for a lane, and it doesn't happen. Correct, So they
Speaker 1: weren't and they weren't opening lanes last. So just running
Speaker 1: right up into the back of somebody isn't isn't gonna
Speaker 1: do any good. So you wait for a second, but
Speaker 1: then it doesn't happen. Then you get stopped, and then
Speaker 1: it looks bad, right. You know, remember a few years
Speaker 1: back when Levian Bell was at the peak of his powers,
Speaker 1: every re single announcer was losing their mind about how
Speaker 1: he was so patient and that he would come to
Speaker 1: line D he pause, he did, he moved, he moved,
Speaker 1: and then he'd hit the hole. That's because they were
Speaker 1: creating those holes for me. Knew one would be there
Speaker 1: and he's just waiting to see it. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we run duo on every play, but we do do
Speaker 1: that a lot. But there, but but in fairness, there
Speaker 1: the holes weren't happening in that game. I don't think you.
Speaker 1: You can look at the numbers too. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I also want to say, and I have seen some
Speaker 1: nice explosive Rashot White runs, but there's no there's no
Speaker 1: nothing in the numbers that you look at this and go, well,
Speaker 1: we should definitely be giving Rushide more than Leard. I
Speaker 1: think shots averaging three point one yards for carry Leonard
Speaker 1: three point three leonards as long as seventeen reshots is eleven.
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing there that says we're running the wrong guy. No,
Speaker 1: but I like I like when they mix it up
Speaker 1: because they're different style runners, so I I do like
Speaker 1: when they when they do that. I think I've been
Speaker 1: guilty of this a little bit too, because I do
Speaker 1: remember those nice slashing plays that a shot has made
Speaker 1: and think maybe maybe we should be giving them more work.
Speaker 1: And I'm not remembering the runs that didn't work, because
Speaker 1: the number is tell me that it isn't working any
Speaker 1: better than when Leonard's in there, Okay, can we get
Speaker 1: someone in to burn some sage and ray ja near
Speaker 1: the receiver's lockers. I feel like they have all have
Speaker 1: the yips and are in their own heads. We all
Speaker 1: know it's not talent, but even Mike, Mike is dropping balls.
Speaker 1: So someone has the voodoo doll out. Maybe soak all
Speaker 1: their gloves and maple syrup too. Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: that um that has been lifted because what Tom said
Speaker 1: about it's okay, if you drop a ball, you're getting open.
Speaker 1: I make bad passes, you drop balls, Let's just keep going.
Speaker 1: Drops happen, And I think I think that I also
Speaker 1: getting a win makes people not as tight because it
Speaker 1: is almost every play was like, you gotta make this play.
Speaker 1: You've got to make this play, you know so. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that we have receivers who are prone
Speaker 1: to dropping the ball. They just it's just happened. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything anything to the yips. Mike's
Speaker 1: not dropping the ball because you're thinking about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm very pleased with our receiver. So also
Speaker 1: one prediction. I love how Kate has called him on
Speaker 1: over the last few weeks, and I think he has
Speaker 1: the potential to be dominant in the future. But if
Speaker 1: the Bucks went in Germany, I think Jason might open
Speaker 1: checkbook and have ground waiting to greet them on the
Speaker 1: tarmac to make that run from the playoffs. We've already
Speaker 1: talked about that. We need to keep that fire burning. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks for reading. Have a safe trip, Mike in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike. All right, this is Brian Ruts and the
Speaker 1: subject line is Munich events. Heard from your previous show
Speaker 1: that some Buck fans fan events are scheduled in Germany.
Speaker 1: I have not seen any publish yet. Have we not
Speaker 1: made that? Um? There is and um, gosh, it is
Speaker 1: down in the plaza. Um, oh gosh, what's the name
Speaker 1: of the plaza? I have to think there's a plaza
Speaker 1: down in downtown Munich. It's where the clock is, It's
Speaker 1: where the UM. I can't think of the beer garden.
Speaker 1: It's there. But yes, there's stuff going on Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: and Saturday. And I think the question here is where
Speaker 1: the questions. Have we put anything out about that? But
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to locate um information on that.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna help us a whole lot at the moment. No,
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's not um. But yes, there's a
Speaker 1: famous um. Oh god, Jeff, I can't think of it. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be hard to figure out if
Speaker 1: you happen to be in Munich. No, if follow social media,
Speaker 1: follow the Buccaneers on social media, because because Joey's going
Speaker 1: uh and he'll be putting stuff out where we are,
Speaker 1: where the Buccaneers are, that's the best way because then
Speaker 1: you know exactly where it's at, all right, And I
Speaker 1: apologize because I do, really I can't. It's the hospital house,
Speaker 1: it's it's a famous beer I can't think of I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: continue Scott. He also says, either way, the offer is
Speaker 1: still open to hang out with our group from Bradenton
Speaker 1: and my German relatives who live in Munich. Text me
Speaker 1: if you guys need any local recommendations or help with
Speaker 1: anything while in Germany. And he gave me a pone. Well,
Speaker 1: his friends, his his family will know where it's at
Speaker 1: because it's the Plaza downtown Munich. If you like beer,
Speaker 1: the it's spelled h l l E that's the place. No,
Speaker 1: this is the type of beer. Yes, but that's the
Speaker 1: that's called Hellis. Is it Hollis or h E L
Speaker 1: L E s. He's not referring to a pub if
Speaker 1: you like beer, And I don't know if I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: that right, That's why I spelled it. The Hellas or
Speaker 1: Hollis is my recommendation, very very smooth light beer that
Speaker 1: is like an angel tickling your taste buds on the
Speaker 1: way down. Various breweries all of their own version of Hellas.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to try that for sure. Right, you
Speaker 1: can't drink the heavy beers all night, you gotta know.
Speaker 1: And what I love it over there is every beer
Speaker 1: has got its own stein or it's heard's very special.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they you know what, it's funny you're saying
Speaker 1: that every one it's been talking about that that they
Speaker 1: want to they want to bring one back. Um. But
Speaker 1: social media, you know, Instagram, um, the Twitter account, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of what they'll have a lot of information
Speaker 1: over there. All right, thank you Brian for the invite again.
Speaker 1: And we have to see I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: doing yet. We have to see all this. But if
Speaker 1: if we end up in the same area as you,
Speaker 1: I'll text you and We'll say that's the hard part
Speaker 1: because we do have a UM practice on Friday, and
Speaker 1: we'll probably be tired. I don't think I'm going anywhere
Speaker 1: Friday night. But Saturday time, yeah, because we have a
Speaker 1: walk through. But hopefully mid afternoon Saturday. It's the goal.
Speaker 1: Good alright. This is from Samuel nee Now, who lives
Speaker 1: in Nashville. I've never asked if I'm pronouncing that one right. Well, apparently, uh,
Speaker 1: you not, because they're not telling you you're wrong. Hey, dogs,
Speaker 1: that was a very nice win. It was a little ugly,
Speaker 1: I told you, Jeff, but it was a win. And
Speaker 1: not only that, but a win against the Rams doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt that we game the game on everyone else in
Speaker 1: the division. Also, we didn't talk about that. Oh by
Speaker 1: the way, let me stop here from do you want
Speaker 1: to just describe the crazy play at the end of
Speaker 1: the Falcons game, didn't you? Oh? Yeah where? Which it
Speaker 1: reminds me of a buccaneer play in Yes Where. Well
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, it was against the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs and a rain storm in the three zero game,
Speaker 1: and Jerry Eckwood was running down the sideline with the
Speaker 1: ball in his hand, and no one. Hear nobody around him,
Speaker 1: and he dropped it. At least he had an excuse
Speaker 1: but that it was raining. It was yeah, but no, no,
Speaker 1: he had the ball okay, it was tucked and he's
Speaker 1: running okay, And that's what happened in the Falcons game.
Speaker 1: It was a fumble fumble recovery, fumble fumble recovery. So
Speaker 1: Austin Nekeler was a great player. They're really just trying
Speaker 1: to set up a field goal to win it fumbles
Speaker 1: the ball. I on the do you play? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I thought he was down or whatever. I think half
Speaker 1: the people in the field, but the play was over
Speaker 1: because it takes a beat before the Falcons player picks
Speaker 1: it up, and for them, unfortunately turned up be the
Speaker 1: wrong player to pick it up. He starts running down
Speaker 1: the field and he's not even touched. He just drops
Speaker 1: the ball. So the charges get extremely like it to
Speaker 1: get the ball back. And because it was because it
Speaker 1: was two changes of possessions, technically it was first down,
Speaker 1: so they had been knocked out of fieldal range, but
Speaker 1: it was first down. They didn't have too far to go.
Speaker 1: A couple of passes and talk talk about frustration it's
Speaker 1: just I mean, how do you even you know that
Speaker 1: is just in your head the old time? How why? Yeah? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's no explanation for it other than it's
Speaker 1: funny as long as you're not the guy. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So hopefully we keep moving forward against the Seahawks. This ye,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. This is a pretty funny question. Alright.
Speaker 1: So I was looking at all the trades last week
Speaker 1: and it made me curious. Imagine we lived in an
Speaker 1: alternate reality were not only players, but staff members could
Speaker 1: also be traded in this reality, Jason Light calls both
Speaker 1: of you into his office and tells you that while
Speaker 1: you both have been superb your job and great assets
Speaker 1: to the team, he's getting calls left and right from
Speaker 1: teams offering multiple first round picks for each of you. However,
Speaker 1: because you have both been so good and given a
Speaker 1: lot to the organization, Jason wants to treat you right
Speaker 1: and trade you somewhere you actually would want to go.
Speaker 1: Jason then asked you to give him a list of
Speaker 1: your top three teams that you would want to be
Speaker 1: traded to for him to consider his options. What three
Speaker 1: teams would be on your short list? Thanks for the
Speaker 1: Great podcast as always an enjoyed Germany. That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: It's very funny. It's very good, completely unbelievable. It's if
Speaker 1: this were the reality, I probably would have had to
Speaker 1: negotiate a no trade clause because my wife would not
Speaker 1: be happy with us moving anywhere out of Tampa. She
Speaker 1: never wants to leave. So so do you know where
Speaker 1: you would go? Well, if the Chargers hadn't moved, San
Speaker 1: Diego would be high on my list. I've always liked
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I would have so i'd have the best
Speaker 1: gear in the league. I still might. I still might
Speaker 1: put the Charges on my list. They're usually a pretty
Speaker 1: fun team. They got a great young quarterback. I probably
Speaker 1: am towards the end of my working career. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer I got, But so
Speaker 1: I would like a team that has a chance to
Speaker 1: be good for the next seven to ten years. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Um, so maybe the Chargers. I think Denver,
Speaker 1: just because I think I would like to live in Denver.
Speaker 1: Anything good, good stuff there and see I'm I'm ruling
Speaker 1: out even though the Packers of all that history, I
Speaker 1: don't want to live in Green Bay. I don't want
Speaker 1: to live in Buffalo. I don't want to live in
Speaker 1: or around New York City. I don't want to live
Speaker 1: in Philly. I don't want to live in Boston. Right. Um, Miami, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in Miami. I'm already living
Speaker 1: in Tampa. I don't want to live I couldn't work
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys because I've always despised The one time
Speaker 1: I went to Houston before I worked here, I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. It was way too hot. Uh, Seattle, Seattle,
Speaker 1: Seattle would be Baltimore just because I think that's a
Speaker 1: well run organization. Okay, So I'm gonna narrow my list now,
Speaker 1: all right, Nara, Denver one because I think that's generally
Speaker 1: a pretty well run organization and I think Denver would
Speaker 1: be a nice place to live. Um, these are initily
Speaker 1: in order. These are my three. Baltimore because I just
Speaker 1: think that's one of the best run organizations in the league,
Speaker 1: and so I think your work environment would be good
Speaker 1: and they usually find ways to win. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to, I'm gonna have to. I'm
Speaker 1: not dying to live in l A. But California as
Speaker 1: a whole would be pretty cool. And um, I think
Speaker 1: I just the gear that I would get from the Chargers,
Speaker 1: I would, I would that would probably be those those
Speaker 1: are yours? How about you? My three would be right
Speaker 1: off the bat for rams Chargers. So you want to
Speaker 1: go to California, there's three and the fourth one if
Speaker 1: if I couldn't go to all three, the fourth one
Speaker 1: would be the Raiders. Okay, that might be in Vegas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to live in Vegas. Seattle
Speaker 1: could be near. It would be an I think, a
Speaker 1: nice place to live. Yeah, I mean, I mean if
Speaker 1: if if it goes all the way down to that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do Seattle. I I do enjoy the Pacific Northwest. Yes,
Speaker 1: I like dream would be that the Charges move back
Speaker 1: to San Diego. I think that in a heartbeat, probably
Speaker 1: the most beautiful city I've ever been in heart I
Speaker 1: don't mean from architecture, just it reminds the thing about
Speaker 1: San Diego reminds me a lot about Tampa, and that
Speaker 1: is the downtown area. But the best part about San
Speaker 1: Diego is the weather. It's just it's always it's always
Speaker 1: good where here you have I mean, I mean on
Speaker 1: game day, I bought a I got a I bought
Speaker 1: a military because it was a military appreciation game. So
Speaker 1: I bought um a pull over, a zip pull over,
Speaker 1: long sleeve and it was eighty eight degrees and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm wearing it. I don't care, and I
Speaker 1: had I did, and I just pushed the sleeves up
Speaker 1: a little bit. But um, you know, as eighty eight degrees,
Speaker 1: it's November. It used to be in Florida the middle
Speaker 1: of October you would have this great fall weather and
Speaker 1: it would be beautiful weather all the way, a little
Speaker 1: Chilean January, February, you know, and then March the great
Speaker 1: spring weather March, April, May, then June summer and you
Speaker 1: sweat you, you know what's off, and then come October
Speaker 1: to be great again. Now it's just hot all the time.
Speaker 1: So so if I was going to get traded those
Speaker 1: those you want to go west, yeah, I go west.
Speaker 1: I think Denver, just Denver is great. The beauty about
Speaker 1: Denver is just as pretty in the wintertime as it
Speaker 1: is in the summertime. And if you're an outdoors person,
Speaker 1: there's you're going to do all of that. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: one's this is from I don't think we've got a
Speaker 1: question from him in a couple of weeks, but Alexander
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, Brazil. I guess the last time I
Speaker 1: read one of his questions, I thought that he accidentally
Speaker 1: misspelled his own name because it ended in R E
Speaker 1: and previously he had been sending e er, but he
Speaker 1: was just doing that. Here a hoy, salty dogs, hope
Speaker 1: to find you both. Well, this is a bit long,
Speaker 1: but it's a really pretty, pretty fun story, so little
Speaker 1: to do the whole. Mr Smith, First of all, I
Speaker 1: must clarify that my name is really Alexander ending an
Speaker 1: R E. I usually, when talking to non Brazilians, say
Speaker 1: that my name is Alexander e Er because that's a
Speaker 1: name more known, especially with US citizens, since Alexander is
Speaker 1: the Portuguese version of Alexander E R. So sorry for
Speaker 1: making you believe I had a different name, and I'm
Speaker 1: not insulted by that. You've been fooling us this whole time.
Speaker 1: I quit writing Alexander e Er this season, so that
Speaker 1: it's very impressive of you to take notes. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I felt compelled to share the following story because of
Speaker 1: your second to last oops not last most recent, I
Speaker 1: might say, episode I took a two week vacation with
Speaker 1: my family to make a dream come true. My wife
Speaker 1: Barbara and I always had a will to experience the
Speaker 1: Halloween in the US, which is interesting especially now with
Speaker 1: our eight year old son, Luca l U C C A.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably right. M. I like that name.
Speaker 1: And after the pandemic hit hit us back in we
Speaker 1: realized we had to we have to take every possibility
Speaker 1: we have with urgency. You dogs may not know, but
Speaker 1: Halloween is not a thing here in Brazil. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that, although I don't find it surprising. However, we
Speaker 1: have always had films on TV series to get an
Speaker 1: idea like hocus Pocus and to make us eager to
Speaker 1: get some candy from total strangers in the U. S
Speaker 1: streets someday and we thought of something. You know what
Speaker 1: he says it that way. It does sound kind of weird.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're told, I mean, you're you're
Speaker 1: taught as a child, take your taught as a child,
Speaker 1: don't take candy from the stranger, and then you have
Speaker 1: a day that you're gonna go do this. We did
Speaker 1: some trick or treating at Celebration Florida. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: right down the road. And of course we know this
Speaker 1: area very well. I can totally picture the whole town
Speaker 1: because we spent seven years of training camp in the
Speaker 1: in the hotel there. Yeah, we know the pub what's
Speaker 1: the name of uh town town tavern, the Boston themed um.
Speaker 1: The thing I have though, is if this was your
Speaker 1: first American city or experience in an American city, that's
Speaker 1: not real. No no, no, no no, he probably does
Speaker 1: that that city. That's a cool place. Basically, it's a
Speaker 1: disneified town, it is, but it's very cool. It's probably
Speaker 1: why he doesn't say in the letter, but maybe they
Speaker 1: went there so they could also hit the absolutely And
Speaker 1: it's a great area and it's a great concept and
Speaker 1: it should be like that. It feels like they've tried
Speaker 1: to make it like the way we picture the nineteen forties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's very nice and clean and it's it's a
Speaker 1: fun place to visit. We liked it, yes, okay, and
Speaker 1: it felt like what to Ryan described. We arrived at
Speaker 1: three thirty pm and we're near an elementary school. I
Speaker 1: can picture that school in my head. So we could
Speaker 1: see lots of parents waiting for their kids, and they
Speaker 1: all went trick or treating after school, so basically they
Speaker 1: were just stalking other families. Um. It was a surreal
Speaker 1: experience for us because I could never imagine myself being
Speaker 1: able to do it, and there I was with my
Speaker 1: family experience experiencing it all. We left around olymp Um.
Speaker 1: It's funny to think that there's probably um traditions in
Speaker 1: every country that if we experienced with me like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is I never even thought of that. Taking candy
Speaker 1: from for an entire UNI. Oh, I must say, my
Speaker 1: favorite candy is Skittles. It's interesting. And Luca loved the
Speaker 1: cookies Eminem's. I guess there's a you had them. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're very good. What they got cookie stuff inside of them?
Speaker 1: It's an it's cookie with an Eminem inside. Oh cookie Eminem's.
Speaker 1: They're they're good. Well, who gives out cookie Eminem's. I
Speaker 1: think they're a Eminem's are just not Eminem's anymore. They
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. Okay, so it is
Speaker 1: an Eminem. We're not talking about eminem cookies. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Eminem's cookie stuff in him. I'm going to find out,
Speaker 1: but I think there is a cookie Eminem. Since you
Speaker 1: did thanks for reading Alexander Asimento from sal Polo, Brazil.
Speaker 1: That is so that's my last question. But if you
Speaker 1: want me to give you time, UM, I'm just real quick.
Speaker 1: Varieties of m Yeah of Eminem. Yeah, they they have
Speaker 1: Oh they have a scary Halloween candy Eminem. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: there's a well there's Eminem cream cookie sandwich. There's a
Speaker 1: double chocolate chip cookies Eminem's. So yes, that's probably what. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: I you know it's funny that. Um there's peanut butter. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's there's peanut there's everything. I've had ones
Speaker 1: with pretzels of them. It is, you know, you forget that.
Speaker 1: You know, we live right down the road from all
Speaker 1: the big amusement parks that people love to go to.
Speaker 1: Fudge Brownie Carmel. When was the last time you actually
Speaker 1: went to a Disney or sea World? The last time?
Speaker 1: Universe I'm not including the Sea World because I think
Speaker 1: those are different. Yeah, okay, but you're talking about amusement
Speaker 1: park like a Disney World. The last time I went
Speaker 1: to one of those was the last time I was
Speaker 1: dumb enough to let that happen. There's Crispy Eminem's Alman
Speaker 1: Eminem's I do not like Disneyland. Uh you know, um
Speaker 1: well disney World and Disneyland crunch cookie. Eminem's yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds pretty good. Yeah, they're, like I said, I've never
Speaker 1: seen that when they're in a light blue bag. You know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about, um, you know, traditions of things that nature.
Speaker 1: We're going to Germany, of course, and we are, and
Speaker 1: they are big into Christmas. Oh yeah, yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of it's you think they already think so. I
Speaker 1: would think so it'll be interesting to see what that's
Speaker 1: all about. Maybe be not, but I would think it's
Speaker 1: that close. They know how to celebrate because you packed yet.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me that at lunch, like are you dune packing?
Speaker 1: Like why would I be dune packing? Right? You packed
Speaker 1: the night before you go, probably Thursday morning. I don't
Speaker 1: wait till the morning just in case there's some issue.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot to watch the stuff or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I packed the night before. Yeah. I just kind of
Speaker 1: like throw stuff in there and then it you don't wear,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't you know. And you can take a
Speaker 1: bigger bag this trip because you can check bags. The
Speaker 1: rule for most of our flights these days, as you
Speaker 1: don't get to check back, so you need to make
Speaker 1: sure that they can fit in the overhead bend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all. It's all about, you know, planning properly. But
Speaker 1: you have to bring a coat because you know at
Speaker 1: night it's going to be in the upper third. I
Speaker 1: don't really even have a thick coat, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll have a sweatshirt and I'll wear a thin
Speaker 1: jacket over it. I was fortunate enough. I I bought
Speaker 1: a winter Code a few years back, and um, it's
Speaker 1: a puffer and it's great because you can you can
Speaker 1: scrunch it up and put it in a little. But
Speaker 1: it's very very warm. So you know that that and
Speaker 1: you know all my all my fleeces or buck gear.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't try to decide do I want
Speaker 1: to wear that out? I could. I could break out
Speaker 1: of an old Bucks like a big puffy Bucks jacket,
Speaker 1: but hey, it's probably old logo. That'd be cool. I
Speaker 1: don't know, And I don't want to wear a big
Speaker 1: red jacket around all them. No, No, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: you know, if you wear a fleece or something like
Speaker 1: that with the Buck logo, might if I have a
Speaker 1: warm shart underneath and in a light and a light jacket.
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. It's not very warm in the beer garden,
Speaker 1: so you know it's not the beer will keep me warm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'll be fine. Breathe. It picked up for me a
Speaker 1: target because she was getting some for herself. I guess
Speaker 1: gloves were like the tip. You can detach the tip
Speaker 1: because we're, as you've pointed out in Europe, the and
Speaker 1: as we found in the stadiums we've been over there.
Speaker 1: The writers sit outside. It's not an enclosed press body.
Speaker 1: And so you're sitting outside in a section of stands.
Speaker 1: It's cordoned off. And so we're gonna be out there
Speaker 1: in the coal and you're gonna be working, and I
Speaker 1: have to be able to type, and it's really I
Speaker 1: can't type in clothes good. The thing is is, uh,
Speaker 1: it'll be about fifty five degrees when kickoff happens. But
Speaker 1: the problem is it gets dark there like four thirties.
Speaker 1: So even if you okay, okay, you're listening to this
Speaker 1: and you're going, wow, fifty degrees fifty five, boy, that's
Speaker 1: not bad. You have to you have to remember though,
Speaker 1: that's a thirty degree swing for us. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you're usually it's like eighty five and
Speaker 1: now it's fifty five. If it's gonna feel colder to you,
Speaker 1: it's gonna feel good. Yeah, I think so that's I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I like colder weathers well. I I think we all
Speaker 1: like colder weather weather more than't we may be used to,
Speaker 1: because we don't get any of it now and now
Speaker 1: it's refreshing when you step off that plane and that
Speaker 1: cold air it hits you. I didn't particularly like winters
Speaker 1: when I was growing up. No, but you know, no snow,
Speaker 1: so you're not don't have to worry about that. I
Speaker 1: think I need to pick up some of these crunch
Speaker 1: cookie him. They look really good, Yeah, and take him
Speaker 1: on the trip with you. Try him out. I'm always
Speaker 1: worried about taking anything in my bag that's food or
Speaker 1: drink or anything, because I don't know what the international
Speaker 1: rules are. Can you you're not smuggling? Usually it's can
Speaker 1: you take your Usually depends on what size. Um not
Speaker 1: really relevant because I plan to drink the German beer
Speaker 1: when we get there. It's usually vegetables, fruits, and that
Speaker 1: could have things that grow and have a bug on
Speaker 1: them or some kind of disease. Correct, those are the
Speaker 1: things that that usually there. So I won't get in
Speaker 1: trouble for a pack of M and ms. Great, you'll
Speaker 1: be yelling at me. Is there dragging me backwards? I
Speaker 1: just know not to take a vape pin into Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good idea, just a concept, not that I plan to
Speaker 1: go to Russia. Well, when that's you know, that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny is listening to a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the building have not been out of the country before,
Speaker 1: so it's interesting to hear how they're I haven't done
Speaker 1: at a ton. You've done a lot more to deal
Speaker 1: with it, you know, to understand it. But you you know,
Speaker 1: you understand what I've been. I've been in Mexico, Canada, England, France, Japan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably it. That's pretty good. It's not
Speaker 1: that good. I've been to Mexico, Canada, Japan. I guess Australia.
Speaker 1: I want them, the Netherlands, UM, Belgium, Belgium, France, Scotland, Ireland, England, Italy, Spain, Dan, Greece, Austria, Germany.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much of that what am
Speaker 1: I up to? It sounded like about yeah, did you
Speaker 1: were some of those like on the same trip, like
Speaker 1: you did? Well, yeah, But usually though, I like to
Speaker 1: go to a country and explore it, like when I
Speaker 1: was in Germany. Last time I was in Germany, I
Speaker 1: went to Austria, which is just like right down from Munich.
Speaker 1: But normally, um, I like to immerse into a city,
Speaker 1: like I spent a week in Paris, but the first
Speaker 1: time I went to Paris, I went to London, spent
Speaker 1: a week, and then the day trips went to When
Speaker 1: I went to Scotland, spent a few time there Ireland,
Speaker 1: spent the whole time in Ireland. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: big into you know, you go on a tour and
Speaker 1: then you you know, you're constantly moving and unpacking and moving.
Speaker 1: I like to get there and just you know, kind
Speaker 1: of see the city, enjoy it because you can always
Speaker 1: go back. Yeah, well you see. It's like it's you
Speaker 1: gotta remember, it's like trying to see America all in
Speaker 1: one trip. You're just not it's just not going to happen, Okay,
Speaker 1: to see things other than just the highlights. This this
Speaker 1: might be our longest podcast ever, and it's one one
Speaker 1: hour and thirty minut okay, um, I wanted to just
Speaker 1: one last question. You just name all those places you've been.
Speaker 1: You're only allowed to take one more overseas trip international trip.
Speaker 1: Which one are you going back to? You have to
Speaker 1: go back to one of those spots. I forgot to say.
Speaker 1: I've been, um in the Czech Republic, I forgot I
Speaker 1: went there. I went to Prague. I forgot about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you've been. If I got to go back to
Speaker 1: one place of the ones you've mentioned, just only one place,
Speaker 1: you only can do one more. Ever, Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: new rule. Probably back to Paris. Paris would be it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed Paris. I just I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: just something about that. What did you think of the
Speaker 1: food in Paris? I thought it was good, really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well we were only there for that one quick day,
Speaker 1: so we only had one meal and it was underwhelming.
Speaker 1: But I've heard other people say that the food isn't
Speaker 1: that impressive. I bet, I bet if you go to
Speaker 1: the expensive places, well, it's like it's like anything else,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean depends who prepares it, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you know, you think you're going
Speaker 1: to Italy and no matter what restaurant you're going, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the best spaghetti there is no It's kind
Speaker 1: of like here in the States, you go to some
Speaker 1: restaurants are better than others. Yeah, but like it, would
Speaker 1: you agree with me that London food isn't you You're
Speaker 1: not going to London for the food fish and chips.
Speaker 1: I mean, well it's changed. This is a bit reductive,
Speaker 1: but there's something to the idea that most places you
Speaker 1: go have the same things, fish and chips, fangers and
Speaker 1: mash uh. Yeah, the shepherd's pie not a not a
Speaker 1: huge variety. Yeah, yes, I feel like that's the rule.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the general idea of London. And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is my personal experience in France and
Speaker 1: a couple of other people have been there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Paris is somewhat somewhere not the same foods, but every
Speaker 1: place they tried to go ahead the same stuff. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's probably not the case,
Speaker 1: and I just don't know where to go in Paris,
Speaker 1: but any case, it doesn't matter. It was See, that's
Speaker 1: just that's what you think of Paris as being very
Speaker 1: cultured in a lot of ways, including food. I thought,
Speaker 1: that's what I what I what I enjoy, and being
Speaker 1: in England the UK it what I enjoy because I
Speaker 1: love history. Just the fact that you look at something
Speaker 1: and you go, wow, that's been there for five yeah
Speaker 1: or whatever, right, and you're like wow. And in here
Speaker 1: in in the States, you know, it's thirty years old,
Speaker 1: while we gotta tear it down and build something new.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I I find that very fascinating that
Speaker 1: you know, you see all of that. Yeah, we're joking
Speaker 1: a lot about going to the beer houses when you
Speaker 1: get over there, but I also want to just sight see. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: just what does the architecture look like. It's well, you know, honestly, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a little different in Munich because Munich was bombed
Speaker 1: out during World War two, so a lot of the
Speaker 1: structures are more nineteen sixty styles. Um. But if you
Speaker 1: go out into the you know a little bit like
Speaker 1: like the main plaza down there, it's got this really
Speaker 1: cool clock. That's very cool. So yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all I got. I mean, all right, what
Speaker 1: else anything? No, No, I'm good. We're going for we're
Speaker 1: going for two in a row, something that we haven't
Speaker 1: done since week one and two. Yes, and we're going
Speaker 1: that would be nice. And we're trying to keep control
Speaker 1: of first place. And we're trying to have Tom Brady
Speaker 1: win in four countries. He's one in Mexico, he's one
Speaker 1: in the United States, yeah, yeah, and England and so
Speaker 1: Germany would be three and overseas. Yeah, and we're oh
Speaker 1: and three. Yeah, it gets including one lost to him. Correct,
Speaker 1: So now we got him. So that's why we got
Speaker 1: some you're telling me he's gonna beat us again. Something's
Speaker 1: got to get where, something's going somewhere, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: since you did wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait what
Speaker 1: we missed a question? What what happened? There was another
Speaker 1: question there? It is Okay, we indulge me. And this
Speaker 1: one is driving me crazy because I didn't get it
Speaker 1: till today and and I tried to find somebody who
Speaker 1: would give me the best answer, and I don't have
Speaker 1: it yet. I'm gonna continue to find the answer, though,
Speaker 1: we'll have it next time. Oh, you're not gonna give
Speaker 1: me the question? I am, gentleman, is with great pleasure
Speaker 1: that I inform you my wife and me will be
Speaker 1: at the game. On Sunday. I will watch my first
Speaker 1: ever live NFL game and I will see the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: quarterback by Tom Brady in Germany. What a time to
Speaker 1: be alive. Wow from Germany. His name is Dylan Dylan.
Speaker 1: He only puts Dylan. I can see his name from
Speaker 1: his email address, but I won't read the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But my question is about the final play of the
Speaker 1: previous game. In the Rams desperation play, Cooper Cup throws
Speaker 1: a lateral which hits the ground. Then Allan Robinson picks
Speaker 1: it up and runs up the field. So I understand
Speaker 1: that because Cup's throw was not a four pass, and
Speaker 1: that's why I live ball. The play continues, But wasn't
Speaker 1: it technically a fumble that can only be advanced by
Speaker 1: the fumbling player himself? Under two minutes? Can you clean
Speaker 1: this one up for me? I'm Cory, I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: that play. This whole rule stems from a Raiders game
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies where I think it was Kins
Speaker 1: Stabler at the end of the game fumbled the ball
Speaker 1: and it like rolled fifteen yards forward. I think it's
Speaker 1: called the Holy Roller. He purposely hely just kind of
Speaker 1: was being tackled. So we've purposely fumbled forward and one
Speaker 1: of his teammates eventually recovered it in the end zone
Speaker 1: for the win. I think that place is called the
Speaker 1: Holy Roller. You can know what. You can't forward a fumble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you can't advance a fumble. That's been so, but
Speaker 1: it is true. Here's a rule right from this rule
Speaker 1: updated rule book if a if a fumble by either
Speaker 1: team occurs after the two minute warning, One, the ball
Speaker 1: may be advanced by an opponent to the player who
Speaker 1: fumbled is the only player of his team who is
Speaker 1: permitted to recover and advance the ball. Three. If the
Speaker 1: recovery or catch is by a team of the player
Speaker 1: who fumbled, the ball is dead and the spot of
Speaker 1: the next step is the spot of the fumble or
Speaker 1: the spot of the recovery. If the spot of the
Speaker 1: recovery is behind the spot of the funnel, that's okay.
Speaker 1: So when I got this question today like a noon,
Speaker 1: and so I went to look for I like to
Speaker 1: bounce these kind of things off Michael my Hanna think
Speaker 1: he's great about that and his because Dylan here is
Speaker 1: correct it. When Cooper cup so Cooper Cup catches it
Speaker 1: first and then he's trying to lateral it back to Actually,
Speaker 1: he said Ellen Robinson, but the player in places Brandon Powell,
Speaker 1: he's trying to lateral it back to him, and the
Speaker 1: ball does indeed hit the ground, and then Powell manages
Speaker 1: to get it. And it says right in the play
Speaker 1: by play, Cooper Cup to l A seven yards fumbles,
Speaker 1: which was his attempted lateral recovered by l A. B.
Speaker 1: Powell at l an So it wasn't backwards, it went
Speaker 1: sideways two and then he actually lost six yards and
Speaker 1: then lateral. You know, the play kept going and several
Speaker 1: more laterals and they ended up getting to the twenty six.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't the ball have been dead as soon as it
Speaker 1: hit the ground and then the other ram recovered it
Speaker 1: because according to this rule. So the first thing Mike
Speaker 1: says to me, which I think is right, he goes,
Speaker 1: that's on fumbles forward. If you fumble the ball backwards,
Speaker 1: this this does not apply. You can't. You can't. You
Speaker 1: can't advance the ball. So they're not advancing because it's
Speaker 1: going backwards. Well, no, you can't advance the ballpart means
Speaker 1: after it's been recovered. Okay, you know, because the spirit
Speaker 1: of that rule was the Raiders got away with purposely
Speaker 1: fumbling forward into the end zone. And I guess the
Speaker 1: idea is, if you're fumbling forward, you shouldn't get you're
Speaker 1: trying to get some gain by public purposely fumbling forward.
Speaker 1: If you're fumbling backward, what do you have to gain
Speaker 1: by that? There's nothing gain by that, but there is
Speaker 1: because you're keeping this last play alive. I agreed with Mike,
Speaker 1: and then I came up and found the rule book
Speaker 1: and found the passage and it doesn't say anything in here.
Speaker 1: It has to be forward it just as a phone
Speaker 1: doesn't say forward, backward anything. So by this Dylan would
Speaker 1: be right. And as soon as that has ruled a fumble,
Speaker 1: as soon as that guy recovered it that it wasn't
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, the place should be dead right there. So
Speaker 1: this is our listeners homework. Start googling and figure it
Speaker 1: out and see if we can find the answer. For
Speaker 1: next week, I'm gonna try to find the answer. That's
Speaker 1: what I just didn't have enough time today, but it's
Speaker 1: sticking in my mind right now and I really want
Speaker 1: to know. Um. But the thing that's confusing. Here is
Speaker 1: We've seen you and I. Everybody's watched these games has
Speaker 1: seen this type of play many times, and it's common
Speaker 1: for the ball. You know, some two inernew pon lineman
Speaker 1: finds the ball in his hands and he's trying to
Speaker 1: get somebody in. It hits the ground, but the play
Speaker 1: always keeps going. Why I need to know. Why would
Speaker 1: they have just did they just let it happen and
Speaker 1: then afterwards would have ruled, hey, you can't if they
Speaker 1: break it for a touch on them? They have brought
Speaker 1: it back. Also, at the end of this game, at
Speaker 1: the end of this play, the last lateral went forward
Speaker 1: the the big the lineman had it me threw to
Speaker 1: Cooper Cump, but I went forward seven yards and I
Speaker 1: think there was actually a flag thrown on the field.
Speaker 1: There was, but they didn't do anything about it. There's
Speaker 1: no pen on They just said games over and so
Speaker 1: they didn't actually enforce. So I don't know. I need
Speaker 1: to know the answer to that. So I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you brought that up. All right, that's good, Cliffhanger joined us. Cliff, Yes,
Speaker 1: Dylan will probably be back next week just for this reason.
Speaker 1: Very good. It's whatever reason why we want you all
Speaker 1: to come back. Yeah, I know what exactly. How's that
Speaker 1: all right? You done? Are you sure? I'm sure since
Speaker 1: you did. Thanks for listening.