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<v Speaker 1>On the beck Doll Cast, the questions asked if movies

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<v Speaker 1>have women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends

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<v Speaker 1>and husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef

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<v Speaker 1>In best start changing it with the bec Del cast. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>what up? So I'm trying to recapture our electric live energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yeah. So the episode that you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to hear is an episode that we recorded during a

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<v Speaker 1>live show, our first live show back after over two years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a blast. It really was. What you're I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>something that you're missing is Yeah, Caitlin gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>lap dance. I had cramps that day, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do much dancing, but I really I tried to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the lap dance as best I could. Thank you, I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt, I felt great about it. You were. That's

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<v Speaker 1>no reflection on your skill. You were incredible. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Because the movie was magic Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and you clicked on it, you you know, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did this whole funny little bit at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the show where you were you came out,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, oh my gosh, where's Caitlin. When's the

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<v Speaker 1>show going to start smash cut to Pony by genuine playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I come out on stage, I start taking my clothes off,

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<v Speaker 1>I give you a lap dance and I'm like, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I mean, I'm I'm I'm giving who with

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<v Speaker 1>my face and my body language, and yeah, it was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was electric And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of more for for our matrons. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what qualifies us. I think you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of energy and talent is what qualifies us to

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<v Speaker 1>make a Roku original. Uh, this is what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get us on the slate Roku Original slate because because normally,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, podcasts are an audio medium, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>think of any visual thing that's happening. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>come to our live shows, what if the podcasters are hot,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hot, and and we can dance and we give

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<v Speaker 1>a good visual performance, a visual perform. Yeah, of visual. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really fun show. We hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Uh, we had. We had a good time

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<v Speaker 1>visually performing it for you. Yes, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it will come through on on audio as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're hoping to do more live shows in in

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<v Speaker 1>the near future. This was an experiment that I think

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge success, major success. So here's the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoy. Thank you. I think that was exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually I get naked, right, I know we're doing kinky switch,

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<v Speaker 1>A kinky switch. I'm sorry, emin insult. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. Yeah, I'm a virgin. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both virgins. So this movie was really confusing. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the back, felt guys, Get up, welcome back. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for spilling Mike's heart immediately. That's how you know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, because I can't even manage my MIC's heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, okay, well, um here we are. Yeah, welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back at the Sunday afternoon. Um, how's everybody doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Does everyone have a drink? Does everyone have peanut eminem's?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we all safe or we all feel like good? Awesome? Awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought someone was holding up peanut eminem so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, that's about the energy we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be bringing to the show. Thanks for coming. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Caitlin Durante. Yeah, my name is Jamie Loftus and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our this is our podcast. This time you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at us and we haven't done this in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We even't what was the last show that we did live?

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<v Speaker 1>Would have been like Valentine's Day, right, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember what it was, Black Swan, New York City. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it feels like ages ago. Uh. I think

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<v Speaker 1>really has happened since some times not just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fell off, got pretty lazy. I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very out of practice. I'm stressed out about

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<v Speaker 1>various articles of my clothes being scattered about the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone they're not gonna steal it. I yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 1>really stressing about Okay, So the whole thing here is

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<v Speaker 1>that we were really stressing about the opening. We changed

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<v Speaker 1>the idea for the opening of this a million times.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to the mall last night looking for taraway

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<v Speaker 1>pants that did not materialize. We don't exist anymore. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. The woman at Dick's Sporting Goods looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me like I had four hundred heads. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>at Kayleen, you'd had not come to my rescue at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, um, so we're looking for pants that

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<v Speaker 1>have the buttons and you can pull them off and

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<v Speaker 1>she and she was like what And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the and she's like, I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, but this isn't the right store. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I could have been the right store. So then we

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<v Speaker 1>just went to the food court and went home and

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<v Speaker 1>so and then we figured this out. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>had these pants but they don't they don't even work.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't work. Before I'm wearing two pairs of underwear

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<v Speaker 1>right now. One of them is a song. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable. You were, I mean, Caitlin, you you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll wear the song. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to show my arms, but I did. But

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I wore my Shrek bra. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>version of this episode where we came out so confident

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<v Speaker 1>that Caitlin was wearing a thong and I took my

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<v Speaker 1>shirt off and was wearing it. It's two pm. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna but you know, I was like, everyone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be sucked up. You're not fucked up. I've had three

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<v Speaker 1>steps with my car Harden lemonade, and I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>pass away. But you know, there's also if anyone at

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<v Speaker 1>any point, I brought one can for the audience, So

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone's like, you know, like vibing. They're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be so much better if I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I had a migraine. Um, that's there, got that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's truly my hero's journey is when this podcast started,

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<v Speaker 1>I could drink Mike's hard whatever I want, And now

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel like I died six weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressed with your character arc. Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the greatest story of UM, well, welcome, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being here. We're happy to be back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to let you know that we really

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do something horny and then we're cowards. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I beg to differently. That was beautiful. That was to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, And that's what you get if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>come to our live shows. And you don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who's listening at home right now, Sorry you missed out.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna have to imagine it. But don't send

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<v Speaker 1>us any emails about it, because that's it's wild that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say that, but you really do. Well. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Has anyone ever here ever seen the movie Magical Michael? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his Christian stripper name, Magical Michael. I was calling

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<v Speaker 1>this movie so many things in my head. I was

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<v Speaker 1>calling it magical, Michael, I was calling it himbo, billy elegy,

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<v Speaker 1>calling it all sorts of that's the two things. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Has anyone not seen magic? Mike magic Michel? Oh? Wow? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone did start, Oh I miss bullying. The audience was on,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exciting. Um. Has anyone been to a live

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<v Speaker 1>Bectel cash show before? Wow? Oh my gosh, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Has anyone not been? So many newcomers you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see us in the raw, like those little brown sugar packets,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, I come out and do a

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<v Speaker 1>strip tease before every live show. Yeah. She did that

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<v Speaker 1>before our Nightmare before Christmas episode, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem she did. She did. She grinded on

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<v Speaker 1>me for all of What's this? And I was like hell?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was wearing these same pants. The context

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<v Speaker 1>made no sense, but everyone was getting pretty fucking horn

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and so forth. In my defense, we were

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<v Speaker 1>all asking of that performance of mine, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>What's this? And answer us Christmas Town. When Caitlin grinds

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<v Speaker 1>on me, which she does all the time, it evokes

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas morning? Sorry, where are we? I? Feel sick. I like, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I spilled Mike's spirit. I haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>that since I was like twenty two. Um, you made

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<v Speaker 1>the hilarious joke backstage, Magic Mike's Hard. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should just Mike's Hard movie and then an extremely magical

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's Hard movie. Did you? Did you know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a third movie in development as we speak? No? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Is it an all girl reboot, which would

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<v Speaker 1>make magical michaela magical Michelle. I let me check to

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<v Speaker 1>see what it's called. Old. It is called Sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>am dB dot com scholarly journal. I ever heard of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Mike's Last Dance? Does he die? Holy sh it?

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<v Speaker 1>That would actually be so amazing if they killed I

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<v Speaker 1>have all like they do, like a Season one Throne

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<v Speaker 1>Game situation where they're like, we all love Magic Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>but what if he just dropped dead on stage? I

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<v Speaker 1>have dreams like that sometimes, where you're like, you're having

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack on stage and everyone's like this is

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<v Speaker 1>such an abstract bit, and and then you die and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, oh, well, I guess I got my eleven

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<v Speaker 1>dollars worth. Well, I doubt he's going to die, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. Um, should we tell the audience what

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<v Speaker 1>the show is? Yeah? Has anyone here ever not listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the by steal cast before I have a I

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<v Speaker 1>have a harpoon gun with me, But feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if you haven't listened to our little

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on more Wow, listeners, no one raised their hands. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exciting. We are so popular, So we have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. I mean, I guess we do well. The

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<v Speaker 1>listeners at home again, the losers who couldn't be bothered

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<v Speaker 1>to jack asses who didn't have the time to take

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<v Speaker 1>a first class flight to watch me spill Mike's hard

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<v Speaker 1>lemonade while Caitlin grinds on me at two pm. So

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<v Speaker 1>the show is an examination of movies through an intersectional

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<v Speaker 1>feminist lens, using the Bechdel Test as a jumping off point. Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what it is well. The Bechdel Test is

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<v Speaker 1>a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdels, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>called the Bechtel Wallace Test. Lots of versions of this test.

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<v Speaker 1>Our version of the Bechtel test requires that there be

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<v Speaker 1>two characters of a marginalized gender with names who speak

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<v Speaker 1>to each other about something other than a man for

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<v Speaker 1>two lines of dialogue. This movie is complicated in that regarded.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a perfect metric. Um. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could have had a second female character, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what, you know what when we

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<v Speaker 1>did the live shows, we want to choose fun movies

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't have a ton of criticisms of. And

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<v Speaker 1>then backstage I was like, but what if we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about semiotics? You know? Um, anyways, it's complicated. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the show is is that. Okay, uh, thank you. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a hostage situation. So uh, Caitlin, yes, to get

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<v Speaker 1>us started. What is your experience with the film Magical

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<v Speaker 1>Michael two thousand twelve. My history with Magical Michael is

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<v Speaker 1>that it came out the year that I started graduate school,

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<v Speaker 1>where I did go to earn a master's degree in

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<v Speaker 1>screenwriting from Boston University, which absolutely hate to mention, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that you didn't because I'd never talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't see movies that entire two year period

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<v Speaker 1>in the theaters because I just didn't have time so

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<v Speaker 1>busy getting a master's degree. God, what were you you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing? What homework? And classes. Yeah, and a job

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<v Speaker 1>and job and stand up comedy. That's how we metto

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<v Speaker 1>uh love you? Should you like? Okay? Yeah? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a cocker spaniel? Go nuts? So I didn't see the

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<v Speaker 1>movie in theaters, which is what all this prelude was.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the right word anyway? Um? So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see the movie in theaters, but I saw it like

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<v Speaker 1>a year after, and I saw the sequel as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had confused the two and I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>scene where Channing Tatum has sex with a work bench

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<v Speaker 1>was in the first movie. I was wrong. That was

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<v Speaker 1>just a call back to the first movie. It takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in the second movie. So I'm all out of sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is, I've your humping cannon is all

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<v Speaker 1>fuck up? True truly. But I've seen both movies, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't really in my rotation. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Magic Michael Magical Michael is a good movie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good movie. I do understand why it may

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<v Speaker 1>not be in anyone's regular rotation. If it is, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>But if it isn't, it's like more of a bummer

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<v Speaker 1>than you are thinking it's going to be right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I under because I was like, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a horny fun and I was like, wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a deep interrogation of the financial crisis, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I get why it's like not a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I would It's interesting because I feel it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a movie you would want to watch every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually like maybe a once a year kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Wow, yeah, that was a rough point in history.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too bad that they don't know it gets so

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<v Speaker 1>much worse, right, So uh that and I already I

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<v Speaker 1>already had a movie about male strippers in my rotation,

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<v Speaker 1>the Full Monty, So I was like, there can only

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<v Speaker 1>be one. There can be only one, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that slot had been prejudice against men. But yes, which

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<v Speaker 1>is there should be more of We've been criticized for

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<v Speaker 1>that before and some really carefully. Where did iTunes reviews? Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>What is your relationship with Magical Michael? I did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a relationship with Magical Michael. This movie came out

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<v Speaker 1>at some point when I was in college. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and then I continued to not see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there is uh I was aware of,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like a faction of women comics who regularly

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<v Speaker 1>go to see Magic Mike in Vegas. Has anyone ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen Magic Mike in Vegas. It's like there's a live

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<v Speaker 1>male strip show based on this movie, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking incredible. It's supposed to be really really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like that it's a very popular pilgrimage I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to make um but no, I had never seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movie before. I was very excited to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was going to really like lift my

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<v Speaker 1>spirits and make me horny, and it did. But then

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after it reminded me that all the Glitters is

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<v Speaker 1>not gold and that Channing Tatum did not get that

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<v Speaker 1>bank loan and right, so it's I I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up like really loving and appreciating the movie when

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting ready for this episode, in like ways

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<v Speaker 1>I was not expecting to. I thought I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like uplifted by horny fun, which I us, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I was immediately taken back down by serious problems

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<v Speaker 1>and like I just I really liked this movie. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to talk about it. At the end, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen the sequel. Sorry, okay, well we'll I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even rewatch it. For this because I knew, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that we're just going to do a separate episode on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So did they get Okay, no spoilers, but do they

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<v Speaker 1>get hornier or less horny in the second one? I

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<v Speaker 1>truly don't remember what's the hump to come ratio in

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<v Speaker 1>the two who Who's Who's come? Are you like, audience,

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<v Speaker 1>do you say hump to come? Oh? I just been

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<v Speaker 1>strictly on screen. I feel like we can't know off

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<v Speaker 1>screen anyone could be coming. I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>my business. People come to kind of sucking whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I misunderstood the question. Um like I'm sitting with like

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<v Speaker 1>a beaker measure belcome when they watch Magic Mike xxel

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a scientist. Um No, I just I just mean

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<v Speaker 1>on screen. I again, I only remember the scene where

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<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum, the titular magical Magical Michael has sex with

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<v Speaker 1>a workbench too. Does the workbench come? The work bench

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<v Speaker 1>obviously comes, and but that scene pales in comparison to

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<v Speaker 1>the awesome dance I did earlier today. Wow. And then

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<v Speaker 1>for all of your listeners, that's the thing is like

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners, they could be coming right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't know true. And again I feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to say, if you are coming, please don't tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So yeah, I don't know who's coming off screen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know who's coming off screen, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is a universally a applicable law. I will Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing I'll say before we get into the recap

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<v Speaker 1>is Okay, there's a lot of men in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>which normally sounds like an accusation, but there is. But

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<v Speaker 1>the two main mikes are Magical Michael and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Michael Jr. Yes, yes, the Magical Michael Jr. A

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<v Speaker 1>k Adam which every time someone people can't name characters

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<v Speaker 1>Adam anymore because I'm like it was taken by Frankenstein

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bible, but mostly I Frankens. Mostly the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>was actually adapted from my frankenste Oh god, that parton

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<v Speaker 1>I Frankenstein, where the the what is it? Like the

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<v Speaker 1>goblin Queen is talking to Aaron at Cart playing horny Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows what I'm talking about. Okay. There. What

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying is I wasn't expecting Magical Michael Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>To be in my head. The guy from Beastly right,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you okay, and then I have to unpack

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<v Speaker 1>that now. Beastly was a eleven adaptation of Beauty and

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast starring Vanessa Hudgens and This Guy, in which

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Hudgens plays uh, fourteen year old at age fifty

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, this guy who's also five hundred uh plays

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<v Speaker 1>the beast. But he's just like a hot topic, like right,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he just has some like facial scarring

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and they're like he's hideous. It's again I party facial

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<v Speaker 1>scarring and he's like, don't look at me. And Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>is like okay, Like I don't, okay, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>return to something from earlier, the hump to come ratio.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? I was confused by the question because

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, who even comes in the movie? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the hump toicum ratio can be zero to a hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't. I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>see anyone I see. Okay. The other thing is in movies,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like equals come right. I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>actually I mean, and I don't think. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like what a PG thirteen movie. I'm not expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to see fucking ejaculate. Well, like, that's caught. But who

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<v Speaker 1>even goes I don't think Michael j He goes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's mail. There's and then there's like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole spectrum of sounds you can make. I'm familiar

0:21:55.760 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and there's two. All right, we just we have to

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<v Speaker 1>move on. Should I do the recap? Yeah? All right, everyway,

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<v Speaker 1>give it up for Caitlin's famous recap. Yeah. Oh, we've

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<v Speaker 1>already gone way off the rails. What if I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember what happens in this movie because

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<v Speaker 1>I was too busy watching Channing Tatum's arms. Oh my god,

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.360
<v Speaker 1>then we would be like, there's a funny parallel universe

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where this is like this same podcast, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>girl Boss vibes, where we're like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't pay attention due to the pecks, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be I am paying attention to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but but academically, yeah, we have to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>female scholarly way. I'm looking at his pecks for my job. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. We meet Dallas played by Matthew mcconne. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who I'll just interrupt myself right now. I hate him

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<v Speaker 1>so much. This movie would be like better without Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Ak Matthew McConaughey. Okay, So he is the owner of

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<v Speaker 1>a male strip club in Tampa, Florida. Ever heard of it? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>We Dampa as a character in the movie, it is

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<v Speaker 1>Do we ever learn the name of the strip club?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think So they keep like panning up to

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<v Speaker 1>the someone's nodding, Wait, what's the name of the club? Exquisite? Yes, exquisite?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry we were hitting the emphasis wrong. Thank you so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like some Mike's Hard? I love someone's helping

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>me out and I'm punishing them. Um, if anyone does that?

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Does anyone want a small glass of Mike's Hard? I

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>have a mango? Wait? I have Okay, Caitlin, you keep recapping,

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I have to do something. Okay. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>going over the ground rules of the club and we

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<v Speaker 1>meet Magical Michael. That's Channing Tatum. He has just had

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<v Speaker 1>a threesome with Joanna played by Olivia Munn and some

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>other lady whose name they don't remember. So this movie

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>was like deliberately like We're not even going to try

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to pass the Bechtel test because we hate giving women names. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And just in case you had any shred of doubt

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>about whether a Channing Tatum character fox he fus uh,

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the movie wants you to know that right away. We

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<v Speaker 1>learned that Magical Michael makes artisanal furniture that um looks

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>like shit. Honestly, I'm so ugly, but you know, good

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>for his artistic vision or whatever. Um. His dream is

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to sell his pieces for money and for that to

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<v Speaker 1>be his full time job until then he does. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a several other jobs, such as a roofing job

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<v Speaker 1>where he meets Adam played by Alex Adam Frankenstein a

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<v Speaker 1>k a. Magical Michael Jr. A k a. Alex Petty

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>for the kid from Beastley. He is nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of a mess. He does not have his

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<v Speaker 1>ship together. He's kind of a fun like combination of

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Florida man tropes with angry teenager tropes where they're like,

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>he beat up his football coach here, like okay, yeah,

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I understand whose character is. Yes, he lives

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<v Speaker 1>with his sister Brooke played by Cody Horn, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to help him get some steady work. That night,

0:25:54.200 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Adam Frankenstein bumps into Mike, who's outside of a dan club.

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Mike brings him into a strip club, where Adam is

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to learn that Mike is a male stripper, but

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<v Speaker 1>not just a male stripper, the king of the male stripper.

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>He like the male stripper. It's really it's kind of

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>an exciting reveal where he's like, I'm Jesus. Like, he's like,

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Batman, I'm the Batman starring. I would say,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it yet? Does he say that? In

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the he points out a picture of Christian Bale and

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'm not Batman. He's like, Michael Katon No, no, no, no, no,

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not those Batman's I'm the bad anyway. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam learns that Mike is a male stripper. Dallas gives Adam,

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>who everyone starts calling the kid, so he gives the

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>kid a k Adam a job doing props for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>At the club, Adam meet the other male strippers, whose

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<v Speaker 1>names are Big Dick, Ritchie, Ken, Tito, and Tarzan. So

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is first of all, in every

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>friend group, there is one Big Dick Richie, one can,

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>one Tito, one Tarzan, and which one are well? Which

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>which are you of that? Oh my gosh, um round

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<v Speaker 1>of applause. If you think I'm the big dick Richie

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well that's that. That settles it. So I'm

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>big dick Richie, all right. And one of my I'm

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Jamie's obviously Tarzan. Tarzan's Wow, we're kind of like fucking hunks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a big, hulking, hunky kind of Okay, Well, it's

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>nice to you know, it's nice to know every once

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 1>in a while. This show has been on for a

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>long time. It's just nice to know, like how we're

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>perceived by our audience. And so big dick Ritchie Tarzan

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds good. Yes. Yeah. There's also Tobias the DJ,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>who I guess is are like Aristotle. Don't put him

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>into the corner. That's not fair. Yeah, I'm kidding obviously. Um,

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>but there is a Tobias the DJ, played by Gabriel Iglesias,

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're all goofing with Adam. Mike shows him the ropes.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Then it's time for the show. Okay, So it's pretty exciting.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:48.959
<v Speaker 1>It's exciting. They dance, they hump, there's a little bit

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of and then there's a little bit of I kept

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the chairs in that club and how they

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>just like probably have to, like I put the foam

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<v Speaker 1>off the chairs. Every name is that? How come works? Sorry,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very yes, understandably, someone from the audience said

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>foam and they you were right. Um, I'm okay, We're

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna sidebar after this? Is that not healthy? No, you're

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you're You're fine, James, Okay. So the whole the whole

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is a site to behold, which is what I

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 1>wrote in my notes. Um, very very boomer mom of you.

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a boomer mom at any strip club what a

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>site to behold. Mike is usually front and center in

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>all of this, although we do see different dancers individual acts,

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and then when it's time for Tarzan's act Jamie's act,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he turns out to be passed out backstage oh so

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>well that it feels like targeted and aggressive. So Mike

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>throws Adam on stage to fill the spot, and Adam

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>sucks at dancing, but Dallas and Mike see his potential,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>so they decide to bring him into the group. The

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>next morning, Mike drives Adam home and Mike meets Adam's sister, Brooke,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, oh, love interest alert. She's she's doing

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>this thing that and I really liked her performance and

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I like this actor, but she's doing this thing where

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like very of like I'm awkward, and you're like,

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, like, but she's kind of she keeps being like, um,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I like you know, you're like, okay, I get I

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>get it. But she's in like a bikini. She's the

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life, but

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I'm awkward. Like, okay, hey we exist. I'm

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>kidding in defense of my community. Okay. So Mike has

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>met Brooke, and Mike reassures Brook that he will take

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>care of Adam. So then Mike takes Adam shopping for

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>some stripper apparel, which is also a very boomer mom

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>way to stripper. Wow. Okay. Um. I was hoping that

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>we would get a shopping montage from men, because we

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>always get so many shopping montages from from the gals,

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>but um, we never get I would have loved to

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>see the kid from Beastley try on a bunch of

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>outfits that looked not good. And then Jan channing tatums

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>there with like thumbs upper right. Meanwhile, like girls just

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>want to have fun is playing. It's like Lizzie McGuire

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>s because what I was hoping for. Similarly, I thought

0:31:55.560 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>he was going to get a like haircut type makeover too,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>because he has like a scruffy scruff. He has like

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a haircut that's like a little unkempt. I thought they

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>were going to like clean him up. But they're like, no,

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you look perfect actually, and they're in they're in Tampa,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>so but yeah, I was the same thing, by the way, um,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>but you can have you know, the facial hair is

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>not an issue in that region. Okay. So Adam now

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>has all this stripper parel and Brooke discovers it and

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what the hell is this brother, and he's like,

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's for work. Um. We cut to Brooke at the

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>club where she is watching her brother do a sexy dance,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>looking so contemplative. She's looking at him like do I

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like this? I'm like, right, it's she is watching very attentively,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, I I guess there are so many

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>ways to support your brother, horny dancing and staring at

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>him really hard, just like doesn't feel like the best

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>way you can be present without staring at him really hard. Right,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And also so at this point, Adam has gotten much

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>better at dancing. Then she sticks around for Mike's act.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>To be fair, Mike is always popping up around Brooke

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>me and like, you should stick around, Like that's kind

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of is thing, Like he's like pratt food. At one point,

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he tells her to stick around her own home. I'm like,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think she will, like she lives here, I think

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>she will stick around. Um, But when they're at the club,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>he specifically says you should stick around because he knows

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>he's about to do the sexy worm how I refer

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to all the Channing Tatum's dancing. Right, So she watches

0:33:55.960 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>him dance to pony By genuine Again, that performance pales

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in comparison to the one I did just a half

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>hour ago. But you know, let's round of applause for her.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum's effort is what you're applauding. But again, it

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>sucks compared to mine. Star bage. Yeah, yeah, Zoe Kravitt

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>should be dating you are they dating? And Brooks sees

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>this and she's like, wow, not as good as Caitlin,

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm pretty impressed still. Then we see Mike try

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to get a loan from a bank to start his

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>furniture business, and even though he has cash for a

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>down payment, he has bad credit, so they won't give

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>him the loan. Then Mike, Adam, and Brooke all go

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to a Fourth of July party. They're becoming such good friends.

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I also wrote that also notes that's also Mike bursts

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>into their home at sunrise and it's like, we're going

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to a party, and then you know, she's like it's

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>seven am, and he's like, do you want to stick around?

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you just climbed through her fucking window? Dude, Like yeah.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>But then she's like, okay, maybe there's something here, you know.

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>So they test that saying Steve Bushy burst into your house.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like Steve Bushey broke into my home, I

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>would let him do anything to me. But I mean

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea in general, yeah, yeah, fair. So they go

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to this Fourth July party and Mike and Brooke are

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of vibing, but Mike is still he's still fucking

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Joanna here and there, but she's kind of aloof, so

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really seem like it's going anywhere. I and

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>she also like she's working on her masters, and I

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, it's Caitlin. It is me. Caitlin's fucking

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum and she have it either way. That's where yes, okay.

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Dallas then announces that he has bought a club in

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Miami and he's moving the whole operation there from Tampa.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>He says that Mike will make seven and a half

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>percent of the profits from this new venture, although Dallas

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>originally had promised ten percent. So Mike is like, what

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Yeah, Mike is very Cheryl sandberging on his

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>own behalf for much of this movie, where he is

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and I and and usually when I say Cheryl Sandberg,

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean it as a pejorative, but in this case,

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>like he's repeatedly trying to be like, no, I want

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the correct amount of money, and no one ever gives

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Mike the correct amount of money. What is true partially

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>why this is kind of a tragic move. Anyways, Well,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to the part where it gets even sadder, right, So,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>things from this point on start to go down hill

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>for pretty much all the characters, starting with at because

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>he starts doing drugs which drugs. I don't know, the

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>ones that come in party packs there. No, he's doing ecstasy.

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>But then they're also like, oh, I don't know. He

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>was probably on G, and I was like, what's G? Oh,

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what G is? Everyone play a longer.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin doesn't even know what G is. Loser, We're all

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>funked up on G right now. I don't I can't

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>wake up without a couple of Stevie hot G. Yeah.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>They have various units of G lying around and G

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>units yeah, wow, wow wow, feeling like it's two thousand six. Okay,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>so he starts doing drugs. He also starts selling drugs

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>with tobias. Meanwhile, Mike and Brooke continue to vibe. Every

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>time you say tobias, I think it's arrested developments tobiasph

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's yeah. So Mike and Brooke are vibing still more,

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and he asks if she wants to go get some

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>food sometime, and she's like, oh, like on a date

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, no, I don't know. Well, usually she's

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>also dating tall paul Um who sucks and we get

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a very fun effective use of dialogue.

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>How you find out Tall Paul sucks in a single

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>line of dialogue, like he's just sounding like a fucking door,

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Like what does he say? Like he's like he's talking

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>about whatever the equivalent of crypto is, and you're just like,

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm asleep, Like break up with Tall Paul, right, Yeah,

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he gets dumped. I don't even you know, poor tall Paul.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's a great guy, he's not so. Mike and

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Adam then do a gig at a sorority. Adam gives

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>one of the girls an ecstasy pill or maybe it's

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>like a unit of g you know, and all of

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the bros at the sorority are like, oh my god,

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>did you give my girl ecstasy? And they're like no,

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>And then there's like this huge fight. It escalates quickly

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and Mike and Adam have to like get the funk

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>out of there, and Adam leaves behind his backpack, which

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is full of the units of drugs that he has

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>been selling with Tobias. Nothing gets between a nineteen year

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>old boy and his backpack. And that's just a fact.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Anything that's in the backpack, if it's a nineteen year

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>old boy, is not good. It's not good. True. Yeah,

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 1>things continue to spiral out of control, like Mike gets

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>in an argument with Dallas, Mike learns that Joanna is engaged.

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Then one night Mike and Adam get all fucked up,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and then the next morning, Adam is passed out in

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>his own vomit. Brooke comes in and freaks out and

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what did you do to my brother? You

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to take care of him? And We're like, wow,

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>she's being so shrill. That's certainly how much everyone hand there,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Like why is she's she's being so ridiculous. I'm like,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>her brother is like almost dead, and he's like, chill, Chill.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm maybe not advocating for magical Michael as

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>much as the movie wants me to write, Yes, if

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>my little brother was. I just god, I kept connecting

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>really hard with Brooke in this movie because I have

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a little brother, and I was like, if my brother

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was passed out in a pile of his own vomit

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and some himbo told me to chill, I would fucking

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>murder him. I was like, that's my fucking brother. Like

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>there's okay. So then some dudes come in and trash

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Mike's place because they're looking for Adam, who turns out

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to have lost way more units of drugs than he

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>had said. He of what drugs? What is g don't

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>tell her it's great, it's it's wine. I'll figure it

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>out by the end. Okay. So Adam owes to Bias

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>like ten grand, so Mike, yes, Mike pays off Adam's

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>debt with the money he had been saving for his

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>furniture business. So we're like, oh no, we can't have

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>those ugly ass tables made out of bottles washed up

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on the shore of the fucking ocean. But good for him,

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Good for him. Mike goes to talk to Adam and

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>he runs into Brook. They have a very tense conversation

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you know what, Miami is just gonna

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>be a bigger, batter version of this and I don't

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>really believe in you. So nothing gets resolved here yet.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Then Adam and Mike kind of reconcile. Adam tells Mike

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that he'll pay him back for all of those ten geez.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>That scene is I mean, we'll get back to that.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>That scene was so frustrating to me because that was like,

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Adam is such a I feel I feel for Adam,

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>but he's such a fucking mess. In that scene where

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like talking to Mike, he's like, yeah, it's all good.

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to Miami and everything's gonna be great.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, it's not going to be great. You're

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>so fucked my man. But but like, hang on to

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this moment, I guess. And then it's the last show

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa before the big move to Miami, and Mike

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>ends up bailing on this show and he goes to

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Brooke and she's like, wow, I heard what you did

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>from my brother. And he's like, yeah, I'm not going

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to go to Miami after all. She's like, well for

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like, let's smooch and then we'll get breakfast together

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and then he's like oh right, and then they go

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then they go, and then sorry reversion and uh

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the end of the movies. Oh boy, where do

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.399
<v Speaker 1>we want to start with this movie? Do you want

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to start by? Should we paletate clean? Should you grind

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>hip me again? Before we kind of get into it, Yeah,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>we should do like a little intermission and then everyone

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 1>how is everyone doing with their mikes? Is everyone good?

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Is everyone good? That they're the people who I gave

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>mikes are have passed out, Like I feel sick. Everyone's

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>good for all, for all the listener. Everyone I gave

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>mix hard Lemonade too is alive. And where should we

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>start with the discussion of this movie. I think there's

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>there's so much more going on in this movie than

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is. I feel like it's an interesting

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>case of because I went back because I didn't see

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this movie when it came out. I was very curious

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>about how this movie was marketed because I vaguely remembered

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>how it was marketed, and it is marketed not for

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>what the movie is. It is not marketed as like,

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>uh movie that is like eight about the interpersonal struggles

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of mail strippers. It's marketed as ninety minutes of mail

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>strippers dancing, which is kind of I feel like, been

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 1>the legacy of the movie because there's the Vegas Show,

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>there's all this stuff, and that's like neither a good

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>nor a bad thing. But I just think it's an

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting case of like it was very much marketed as

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 1>like horny, horny, horny, fun, fun fun, where the movie

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>is like doing doing horny fun but also doing all

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this other stuff that wasn't present in the trailer or

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the marketing or like the magazine covers or anything like that.

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you think you're getting ninety minutes of himbos, but

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you're getting himbos and pathos, right, which is the formula

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>for any good movie. Yeah, So, I mean, yeah, I

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the movie for what it is. I think if

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it was just like Himbo's you're saying you wouldn't like it.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.479
<v Speaker 1>If it was just Himbo's Get a Grip, It would

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have been fun if it was just himbos. But I

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>liked that it wasn't right. I mean, well, what the

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>what would the plot have been? I mean, you can

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>just go to a male strip show if you just

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>want to see ninety minutes of himbos, which I have,

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and it costs a lot more than it does to

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>see Magic Mike. And that's a good thing because you

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to a strip show, you're not tipping.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that's not good. Um okay, So what were we

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Yeah, the marketing, I will say, I think

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 1>there's something to be said for so. I know a

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of men have seen this movie, Brave of you, um,

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>but I think there is something to be said for

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a movie that has almost an entirely like, I guess

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:23.959
<v Speaker 1>straight women fan base, because I don't leave bisexual because

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we're a you're absolutely right for it. Sorry, no, no, no,

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that was by eraser on my part, and I apologize. Um,

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess any gender who likes Channing Tatum, which actually

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>really broadens the right. And now we're back to a

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>circle any gender and any sexuality who likes Channing Tatum.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 1>This is the target demo for this movie. So um,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>but you know, in kind of a narrower scope, it's

0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of horny women who are into this movie.

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I think that's cool. The end of my

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>awesome thought awesome thoughts with Caitlin, No, I I think

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I feel like there's not a lot of

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>movies that are catered to corny women who want dick

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's great. I I love that, and I

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>include myself there. Um, brave, thank you so much. You know,

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of I'm kidding, but I really liked um,

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean magical. Michael himself a complex character. I feel

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's there's so much going on with him where

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you even before you see him strip I liked how

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I sort of expected him to be stripping right away

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and then it just to be a ninety minute MP

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>four Channing Tam stripping. But the context for this movie

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is it's Channing st Channing Stadium. I was Jason Statham

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum. I was making Himbos into one person. Um. No,

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum was a stripper in Florida and was trying

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>to make a movie about that experience and was looking

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>for a director to shape that with him. He originally

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted the director from Drive, Nicholas winding Refn, which would

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>have been like a very different movie with way more

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>bisexual lighting. Yeah, but ended up like he happened to

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>be working with Steven Soderberg at the time. Steven Soderberg

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, I could make a movie about Himbos, and

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Channing Tatum, who seems like a very affable person, Like

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, make a movie about Himbo's like and

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>um sort of like built out this world that it

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>is not like directly autobiographical, because it sounds like the

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>men who were in this movie got like a lot

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of say and who their characters were and like building

0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>out their individual routines and like I guess that the

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>guys who play the strippers in the movie got to

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>figure out like what their individual act was, which gives

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of questions about who chose to be

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the Kendall Sure. I mean, I have a lot of

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>questions about Tarzan tar I mean, ask me, but I

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like that in that. But most of the movie is

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>about kind of like magical Michael's struggle outside of sex work. Um,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting, right, I think this movie does because

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>we've talked, We've had a number of conversations about sex

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>work and specifically stripping on the show with various movies

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we've covered like Hustlers, Zola, even like Coyote, Ugly and uh,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Full Monty and The Full Monty. Right, So a lot

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of these movies focus on women who are doing sex

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>work and stripping, and I feel like, I mean, the

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 1>issues and the scrutiny the sex workers face, I feel

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like disproportionately affect women and non binary Uh sex workers,

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>especially those of color and male sex workers often get

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>left out of the conversation, but you know, they deserve

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to have their lives be represented on screen. To wow,

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>m R A. I would like to distance myself from

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin at this time as she bravely defends men. But

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say though that this movie, unlike others that

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>we've covered on the podcast that focus on women in

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sex work, presents the sex work is like far more

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>glitzy and glamorous in the way that women don't have

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that same luxury of being presented their work. If that

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah, No, I mean, I I mean, we

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>can't speak on behalf of men, even though we have

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>many times. But I I do think that the way

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that sex work is presented in this movie, it's it's complicated, right,

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's not presented as like fully, like this is

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>the answer and like this is an extremely empowering is

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>presented as a means to an end, which I feel

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like has a lot to do with the time period

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that this movie was made in and takes place in,

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>which introduces this like bizarre sub genre that we now have,

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>which is like recession sex work. Uh. But this, like

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this and Hustlers very much belong in that like expanded

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>universe of like late two thousand's recession um sex work,

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like because that's when Magic Mike was developed, and that's

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, by the time Hustlers came out. It was

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a period piece in that which I hope everyone feels

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>elderly hearing that. Um. But in any case, I mean,

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really interesting the way that male sex

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>works are presented in this movie versus women sex workers

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>strictly because it's like it's not presented as like it's

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the exact opposite, but it's just like a separate set

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of issues, right, because it's like they are performing masculinity

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>for an audience that is foaming at the loins for it,

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's great. They're not. There's a lot of issues

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that are shared where it's like the financial issues and like,

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can almost argue like a gig economy

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.880
<v Speaker 1>style issue of like they're dependent on tips, um and

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>other Outside of that, fucking McConaughey has given them fifty

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>bucks a night, which is ridiculous, Um in any year

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for someone supporting your in like making your entire business

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:50.359
<v Speaker 1>is fifty plus tips is just bullshit, right, And so

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>there's there are some shared issues, and then there's also

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>issues that kind of separate performers where it doesn't seem

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>like you don't really get the feeling that the the

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>magical Michaels this world like, they are not made to

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>feel unsafe in the way that we see women. Sex

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>workers and marginalized sex workers in general are generally made

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to feel they have problems that are independent of that.

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like performing masculinity to this wild extent. And I

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>always thought it was like, I don't know, I like

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>watch this movie three times to get ready because I

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like to be horny and I like to think about

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>class issues. So this movie is like uniquely tuned to

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:35.720
<v Speaker 1>my interests. UM. But stuff where it's like Channing Tatum

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 1>cannot uh, I can't get it out of the danger

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 1>field zone here, he can't get no respect when but

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like in certain settings where he's like performing manual labor,

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 1>which is like when he's roofing, when he's doing construction work,

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when he's doing all these other side gigs that he's doing,

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>which also very much puts him in you know, like

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>this age and in the recession specifically, um, he is

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not compensated correctly. He's always having to advocate for himself

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to be compensated well. But when he performs those tasks

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on stage, when he performs as a construction worker, like

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets a ton of money, and it's just I

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>don't I mean, I don't have a finishing thought. But

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, maybe we should just all strip our

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>job instead of doing them. Yeah, let's strip podcasting. Podcasting

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>should be um, eradicated, eradicate should be lal, we do

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>have the most embarrassing job, hell show to a screeching halt. Um. Well,

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that and he's unable to get that bank loan, so

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 1>like the man or like you know, the banks and

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that whole those like financial institutions don't respect him or

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and that that's like true for I think sex workers

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>across the gender spectrum, where um, he has a stack

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of so much money and they're just like, well, um,

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>your credit score sucks because we rely like what even

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 1>is credit? I don't know, but uh, he can't get

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:15.799
<v Speaker 1>any respect because of that because he says like his

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>businesses deal exclusively in cash and right, and then it's

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like he's immediately judged on the hearing of that because

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that has like an implication that the bank loan persons

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, you're not going to get alone, which

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the movie plays that off very very well,

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that scene with the bank employee, I really like

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I had to watch it back a couple of times

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's this combination of like he is being actively

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>discriminated against for you know, even implying like that he

0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is a sex worker, and then on the other end,

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he also kind of gets like injured by the rejection,

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>where where the bank loan person is like, well, there's

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>a program that we can help you out with, and

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>then I feel like it was like a kind of

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a very masculine response to be like I don't need help, No,

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, I'm gonna go, and you're like, no, he

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>caused her, sweetheart, but your ugly furniture. I like to

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>think that he like gives her his business plan or whatever,

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and she was like maybe considering giving him alone, but

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.720
<v Speaker 1>then when she sees his furniture, she's like, um, sorry,

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I cannot give you this loan and has nothing to

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>do with a big bank. It's just I don't want

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to support whatever this is. I also, I was like,

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine someone who is not to keep dunking on Channing

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Tatum's fictional furniture, but imagine someone who makes furniture that

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>looks like that coming into your house and being like

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is this true? From Ikea, and it's like, go funk yourself. Man,

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you're making a fucking like table out of like a

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 1>pane of glass and and five of these, you know,

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>like five Mike's hard camps. I'm sorry, yes then audio

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, so um anyways, im Yeah, she is so

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 1>horny for him. At the beginning of that scene though,

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 1>she's like, but that's another I feel like that was

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>another thing though. It's like that is like what magical

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Michael Uh kind of reverts to is like I'm very charming,

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I can pull people into my gravitational Channing Tatum

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Field very easily. But even that isn't enough to get

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>past the discrimination of giving bank loans to someone who

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>is giving you all the money that is necessary. But

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's all the money that's necessary as a sex worker,

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a problem. Right. Yeah. It's also not enough to

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>reel in Brooke right or way either. A little bit

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of pride and prejudice energy going on here. She's got

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>some prid Do we wanna transition to talking about Brooke?

0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Okay, here's my first thought. Okay, ready, yeah,

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I should get in the receiving position. I'm gonna straddle

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you again, are you gonna strab Okay? So, I feel

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of movies do this where there are

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a number of female characters. There's one main one, and

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 1>then there are a few secondary or tertiary characters, and

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>most of the female characters in the movie are presented

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in a way that's not especially empathetic. So take this movie,

0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>for example, the Olivium one character is you know, aloof

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 1>she's standoffish, she's unavailable, and then she turns out to

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be deceitful because she didn't let him know that she

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>was engaged. You have your kind of like quote unquote

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>did see women like the two year old to like

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>go to the club at the beginning? You have various women,

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 1>but none of them are presented as being like viable

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>options for our hero except for one. So I feel

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>like that's like a very like screenwriterie like show don't

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>tell kind of way of just like flat out saying

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 1>she's not like the other girls. She is better because

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>all these other girls kind of suck, right, And and

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that is like, I mean, that fits very cleanly into

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like the Steven Soderberg expanded universe. Also, it's i it

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a writing shortcut for a male

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>screenwriter that's like, I don't know why this woman is

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a character. They're like, oh, what if she like nags

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>him a little bit at the beginning, and instead of

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that playing out as it would in the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is him not talking to her anymore, it ends

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 1>up being romantic. I that's I like Brooke as a character.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do like her, but there are moments

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie where I wasn't totally sure how we

0:59:56.680 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to feel about her, right and especially because

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<v Speaker 1>like Mike mistreats her for different child keeps breaking. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say he's like almost every time they meet, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like kicking the door down, fucking kool aid Man style,

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<v Speaker 1>being like we're going to a party like there, which

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like I think the in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of the movie, it's like she needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of her show a little bit. She's like, seems

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<v Speaker 1>like she really isolates herself. It's he calls her uptight.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, she's up to she can't hang She's so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking uptight. It's it's weird to me because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this movie is like a weird situation

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like halfway there where like I like Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I understand why she's doing the things

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing, where she's kind of in this bizarre care

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<v Speaker 1>like middling caretaker position for a young adult sibling who

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<v Speaker 1>she can't technically say no to, but who is still

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<v Speaker 1>not mature enough to do fucking anything. The beastly kid

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<v Speaker 1>can't do ship, you know, and like, so she has

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<v Speaker 1>to be his mom, but she can't be his mom

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<v Speaker 1>because he can legally do whatever he wants, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has to support both of them because she has to.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really know what the situation is with their parents,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it seems like she is kind of his

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<v Speaker 1>primary caretaker and that he certainly can't take care of himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you understand like why It's like, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have time to go out a lot, like, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seems it seems like the movie understands that in

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<v Speaker 1>some scenes, and then in other scenes that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like paints her as like a character who is uptight,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, well, when is she going to find

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking time to be a horny little slut? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so many hours in the day if there

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<v Speaker 1>were more hours in the day, maybe more of us

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<v Speaker 1>would be horni or little or sluts. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Profound wow, thank you March forth coming. So yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's flirtation tactic is just to be very pushy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate all of their interactions, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>not being very cool to her a lot of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in that scene where we already referenced this, but

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<v Speaker 1>Adam is like passed out face first in his own vomit.

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<v Speaker 1>A pig is eating and so gross. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman with a little pig before Ariana Grande, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what happened. I thought Ariana Grande invented having

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<v Speaker 1>a little pig as a personality. But there was this

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<v Speaker 1>character in Magic Mike. Yes, uh Nora is that her

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<v Speaker 1>name doesn't seem like the name of a young character,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, right anyway, so yeah, and she's another female

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<v Speaker 1>character who were like, oh no, she's almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>fem fatalel for a Adam because she's giving him g

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<v Speaker 1>units every day. I can't hear you say gee, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so funny. So anyway, Um, there's a scene

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<v Speaker 1>where Brooke comes in. She's very reasonably upset, especially after

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<v Speaker 1>Mike had promised to take care of her brother, especially

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<v Speaker 1>after he had like kind of roped him into this

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<v Speaker 1>job that she and there's a whole other conversation to

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<v Speaker 1>be had about her views on sex work, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>the point is Adam is like, maybe oh deed and dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's upset about it, and he's like, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you so upset? Why why don't he say? He tells her,

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<v Speaker 1>but he says, calm down, you need to relax, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he says, you're acting crazy right now. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he's also kind of like man handling her throughout this

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<v Speaker 1>scene because she's trying to help her brother and he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps pulling her off of him. And then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>her being like disapproving of his lifestyle a k. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not very tolerant of the sex work that he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>To the movie's credit, he does, you know, try to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>like there are other facets of my person. Uh there, yeah, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying, Like, I mean this this

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<v Speaker 1>all feels done for me. It was done pretty self

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<v Speaker 1>like in a in a self aware way by the

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<v Speaker 1>movie of like this is a like because there are

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, especially you know, ten years ago, like there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we're a lot of people in the audience

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<v Speaker 1>who would connect with like, I don't understand sex work

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<v Speaker 1>or sex workers, and I'm like, passing this judgment that

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessary, and to see a character go from

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<v Speaker 1>point A to point Z on that subject may have

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<v Speaker 1>been helpful because it feels like the movie, at least

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<v Speaker 1>going in, is aware of that. And I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>caught this movie a lot of slack in that it

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<v Speaker 1>was conceived and made as a way of helping people

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<v Speaker 1>who do not understand sex work or respect it for

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<v Speaker 1>the work that it very much is and should be

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<v Speaker 1>respected as to recognize that, and I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>is like it feels like kind of the mission of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie to humanize sex workers while also like making

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<v Speaker 1>it clear that like this is fucking work, you know. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing with Brooke is that she doesn't agree

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<v Speaker 1>to be with him and smooch him until he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually not going to go to Miami after all,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, so it's not totally clear the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of her disapproval, like the extent to which that affects

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's decision to not go, but it seems like he

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<v Speaker 1>really wants to be with her, especially after she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're such a loser because you're a thirty year old stripper,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's like, oh my god, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a thirty year old stripper. Oh, no, strippers

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<v Speaker 1>are like cool. So it feels as though that affects

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<v Speaker 1>his decision to not go to Miami and basically not

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<v Speaker 1>pursue stripping anymore, because she's like, well, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do then, and she's like, well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go eat some breakfast or something, And well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is though that is like complicated

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<v Speaker 1>by the other stuff going on in Mike's life, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like why this movie is like, it's tricky. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly. It's a combination of factors because I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with what you're saying of I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>the trajectory of her understanding and respecting sex work gets

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<v Speaker 1>where it needs to be, and it feels like dated

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<v Speaker 1>in that aspect. And then you also see this like

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like this very like recession based issue of

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<v Speaker 1>another like there are a couple of different reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>Mike leaves the club, and I'm not even convinced, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't know what happens in the second Magic Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even convinced that he was going to leave

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<v Speaker 1>sex Work entirely. My understanding was, like, he's leaving this

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<v Speaker 1>club because Matthew McConaughey is a fucking asshole who won't

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<v Speaker 1>pay him what he's worth, and like there's this whole

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<v Speaker 1>whatever like mirror aspect where he's looking at the kid

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<v Speaker 1>from Beastly and the kid for Beastly as a younger

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<v Speaker 1>version of himself. That's kind of like self destructing. And

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of the fact that I think Brooke naively said,

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<v Speaker 1>like this one guy is going to that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know is going to protect my brother from all

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<v Speaker 1>of this ship, all the units of G, every single

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<v Speaker 1>G in the world. Like you can't just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I met a hot guy, so my brother is safe forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of on her for assuming that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be true. But there's a number of factors that

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<v Speaker 1>gets Mike out of this club specifically, And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't view it as like he was leaving sex

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<v Speaker 1>Work forever. I viewed it as like he's leaving this

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<v Speaker 1>toxic situation because Matthew McConaughey and his ridiculous fucking hat

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<v Speaker 1>won't give him ten percent, and like he's ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to get the equity he's been promised in the situation

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<v Speaker 1>that he's in, and even like his protege is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of turning his back on him, and so it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, fuck it. I thought it was like empowering

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike left that toxic situation, but also that can

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<v Speaker 1>be read as he's leaving sex work because he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be with this girl. So it's like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a I don't know. I feel like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways too ambiguous on something that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty explicitly clear, especially because like he even says

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<v Speaker 1>during one of the scenes at the end, he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I don't want to be a forty year

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<v Speaker 1>old stripper in Miami, as if like being a four

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<v Speaker 1>year old stripper would be pathetic for him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we're supposed to believe that he's like in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of coming around on sex work and he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to really make this ugly as furniture, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Brooke would approve of, so and I um bravely

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<v Speaker 1>did some research and found some accounts from real life

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<v Speaker 1>mail strippers who did criticize the end of this movie

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<v Speaker 1>because they interpret it as Mike giving up stripping because

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<v Speaker 1>his new girlfriend didn't approve of it. And they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mail strippers have families, and they do

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<v Speaker 1>it well into their forties and later, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>shameful for me, or it's not embarrassing. They said that

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<v Speaker 1>they do it because they love entertaining and they love

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<v Speaker 1>dancing so well. They were not pleased with how this

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this movie pans out, because it does

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<v Speaker 1>seem to kind of come down on the side of like,

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<v Speaker 1>sex work is something that you can do for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while while you're young, but it's just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a stepping stone to quote unquote more serious work. And

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of like gets into another thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to talk about for this movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that I feel like that issue could have been

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<v Speaker 1>more clearly addressed outside of Mike's character if we knew

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<v Speaker 1>the other dancers a little better, because I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of bizarre where I don't know where I

1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>got this notion from but I sort of came in

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<v Speaker 1>with the notion that we were going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>entire cast story kind of kind of like in the

1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:26.600
<v Speaker 1>full Monty right like it was. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were going to kind of get to

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody, which the movie kind of vaguely tries to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a very unsatisfactory way where sometimes you'll learn,

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<v Speaker 1>like you learn one or two things about every stripper

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't Mike or Adam, but it's mostly in passing

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<v Speaker 1>lines of dialogue. The strippers are majority white. The strippers

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't white, it's repeatedly pointed out that they aren't white,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's like you don't get like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there is an opportunity to represent a wider spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of male strippers through the six or seven or eight

1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.519
<v Speaker 1>guys that are on the poster of the movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>you really only get to know two of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they fall into this very narrow like I only want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a stripper for a certain amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is okay, but it's like there is such like

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, like there's such a wide variety of experience

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<v Speaker 1>in stripping an insects work in general that it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to show more if you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>the male stripper movie, which was already done in the

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<v Speaker 1>full monty So but but but I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of frustrated with how the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the cast was like kind of neglected in the process

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<v Speaker 1>of how this movie went, because you found out certain

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<v Speaker 1>things about them, but they're all very vague. It's like, oh,

1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:50.519
<v Speaker 1>this guy's a little spiritual, this guy like sewing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it all feels like, oh, this is like sure, like

1:11:54.080 --> 1:11:58.519
<v Speaker 1>that's that's fun character stuff. But like do I remember

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<v Speaker 1>what their name is? Do I really know anything about them? Like, no,

1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:05.559
<v Speaker 1>you don't. I think you only the only thing you

1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:12.360
<v Speaker 1>learned about Ken is that his wife's breasts, his wife's

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's are really cool, which is a fine fact,

1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:28.519
<v Speaker 1>but maybe not the first and only one to know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's correct, it's yeah. So I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a missed opportunity to represent a wider spectrum of

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<v Speaker 1>experience in the cast of the movie that's already there

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<v Speaker 1>and like played by like very popular, like well regarded.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw some of the actors that were cast

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<v Speaker 1>as the other male strippers, I was like, Oh, everyone's

1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:52.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a story. These are all pretty famous actors,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it was just magical Michael. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you thought you were gonna get any information about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mangeliollo, what is his name do Maginello? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's in things that is matt. Uh. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>isn't watching procedurals, She's or soap operas fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. Tito is played by Adam Rodriguez. Tarzan is

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<v Speaker 1>played by Kevin Nash. Yeah, we really learned nothing about

1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:31.800
<v Speaker 1>any of those characters. But it would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>nice opportunity to for a movie that seems to want

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<v Speaker 1>to characterize and humanize sex workers, especially because there's such

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with sex workers in media not being humanized.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that this would have been a nice opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>give us information about more than Magical Michael and Magical

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jr. But the movie opts not to do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which side? And it is, like, like you were saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>centering this very I feel like more marketable view of

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<v Speaker 1>stripping in general, but but male strippers and specific of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is temporary and I actually want to do something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no character that's presented. Is like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my chosen career and I'm very happy doing it, which

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<v Speaker 1>should be a perspective that is presented because it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, like it, it is very much something

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<v Speaker 1>that exists and isn't represented. And speaking of one of

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<v Speaker 1>my main complaints about the movie is that there's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough nudity. Anyone else agree? You have to see butt

1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:53.360
<v Speaker 1>entities right away? Yes, however, okay, but I'm an insult.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we see more female nudity in this

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<v Speaker 1>be about male strippers, which is confusing. You basically see

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<v Speaker 1>a few bare asses of men and you see a silhouette.

1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you do see big Dick Ritchie's penis in

1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a penis enlarging device. What are those called? I would

1:15:17.120 --> 1:15:22.040
<v Speaker 1>say that's pretty nude, that's pretty dude. Um, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a disembodied penis. You know. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific complaint, but I was just I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of curious about this, and it turns out that the

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<v Speaker 1>shows that you see in this movie are closer to

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<v Speaker 1>male reviews than male strip shows, right. I for one,

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<v Speaker 1>did not really know about this distinction until I was

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<v Speaker 1>researching this for this episode, I just outed myself as

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<v Speaker 1>very much knowing that distinction, but for anyone else who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. So, Basically, male review shows or male reviews

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<v Speaker 1>have the more kind of like choreographed dancing than a

1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:08.759
<v Speaker 1>mail strip show. There's a lot more like costume changes

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<v Speaker 1>like we see in this movie. There's also like a

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<v Speaker 1>show that starts at a specific time and then ends

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<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes later, much like a live episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechtel Cast. We're running out of time, we actually are,

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<v Speaker 1>we do need to wrap up soon. But um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these and then also the big thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of right, there's a there's a noticeable lack

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<v Speaker 1>of bare pieces. Okay, but that opens a whole Pandora's

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<v Speaker 1>box of Like I I don't think we can like

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<v Speaker 1>pin this on the movie in particular, because that is

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<v Speaker 1>the rating system that is like and that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the only way you can see Baar Dick

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<v Speaker 1>is if you've got an HBO Max subscription when you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Kids that eu Fouria high. Why are there

1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Alblemre's plenty of places see dicks in this world, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say in a movie aspect, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we can like put that on Magic Mike specifically. I

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<v Speaker 1>would hope that they would have showed us dick if

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<v Speaker 1>they could have, but because they like you can only

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a general issue with movie ratings. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you can show way more of a woman's body than

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<v Speaker 1>you can. It's just like a problem that existed for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. And so that's I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>why TV has sort of taken taken the lead on

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<v Speaker 1>showing dick. Um And that's my that's my s in

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<v Speaker 1>this essay, I will tell you why there's so much

1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:47.519
<v Speaker 1>more dick on it and at Euphoria High School than

1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there isn't Magic Mike, because you would think and it

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<v Speaker 1>should be the opposite. Uh But but yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's like, even if a major movie

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show dick, there's like not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways to do it because of how that very antiquated

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<v Speaker 1>structure is made. For sure, yes, so I withdraw my complaint,

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<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't it be great to see like the dick

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<v Speaker 1>cut kind of like the sorry sorry, there had to

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<v Speaker 1>have been a better way. Someone's gonna pull that out

1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:30.639
<v Speaker 1>of context, and my life's going to be fucking over.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many ways to interpret it too. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about circumcision. Um yes, and that. Yeah, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was saying. No, but like the the

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<v Speaker 1>butthole cut of Cats, the dick cut of Magical, you

1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:53.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been able to release the throbbing butthole cut

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<v Speaker 1>of Cats in theaters to general audiences in the same

1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:00.519
<v Speaker 1>way that you wouldn't have been able to But but

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<v Speaker 1>then there there is a lot of like gendered implications

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<v Speaker 1>there because there are I mean, and we've had this

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<v Speaker 1>talk on the show before, how the rating system is

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<v Speaker 1>generally like you can show brutalization towards women the entire

1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking movie and get a PG thirteen rating, but dare

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<v Speaker 1>we showed just the tip and and we cannot know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is like a big systemic movie problem. Yes, Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I actually have complaints about are these.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, there are some very like twenty twelve things

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<v Speaker 1>that are said or done in the movie that go

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<v Speaker 1>completely unchallenged by the movie. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most egregious ones is a few moments of like quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote no homo where there's a scene where Dallas is

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<v Speaker 1>teaching Adam how to dance and he makes a like

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<v Speaker 1>no homo comment, using a slur in. He's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to fuck you or anything. This is just

1:20:02.600 --> 1:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm teaching how to dance so you can make money. UM,

1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I think what's your boss? Should never have to say

1:20:08.320 --> 1:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to you for anyone listening. He was like, my boss

1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. To me? Is that okay? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not right? Um. The thing is that, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that character of Dallas would have said something like that,

1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:31.479
<v Speaker 1>but again, the movie nor any of the other characters

1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:36.519
<v Speaker 1>challenges that attitude. There's another scene where Brooke finds all

1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of Adam's thongs and she very abrasively is like, what

1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the funk is going on? Get out here, I need

1:20:43.040 --> 1:20:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. He's in the bathroom. He might

1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:46.559
<v Speaker 1>be taking a poo, but she's like, get out here

1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>right now. I have to talk to you about your thongs.

1:20:49.479 --> 1:20:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like stop taking stop that ship right now.

1:20:56.200 --> 1:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You better cut that log boy because I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now she's like, you can't do that with your ass.

1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Though she's like she's like, I don't care what your

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<v Speaker 1>preferences are but also get the funk out here, because

1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it's gross that you I think you might be gay.

1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:20.519
<v Speaker 1>And then he's like, no, it's just for work, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like I never followed up. Like that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like that it's frustrating because it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's like the worst thing in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to present that someone in his life would feel that way.

1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>But you have to come full circle on that narrative

1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of like she was explicitly wrong to have made that

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<v Speaker 1>judgment and bear that out. But instead it's like she

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<v Speaker 1>makes the judgment, it's kind of played for laughs, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like not really referenced explicitly. Again, there's no apology,

1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:54.360
<v Speaker 1>there's no like, there's no you know, it all becomes

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of murky mess. And then at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie, she still does not approve of the

1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>work they're doing. And then Mike Michael Magic, Michael Common,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael come a magical Uh quits his job basically because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And again, like I imagine that that is

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<v Speaker 1>like common for like the scrutiny that male strippers and

1:22:18.680 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>sex workers and sex workers of all gender's face. But

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<v Speaker 1>again the movie doesn't actually really comment on it. Um

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<v Speaker 1>there's a quick conversation between Mike and Adam where they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the club early on they clock these two young women,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is just turned twenty one, and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>is like, go talk to that girl, and Adam says,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't look like she wants to be bothered. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Mike is like, look at what she's wearing. She

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<v Speaker 1>came here tonight to be bothered. Mike does it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there, I know that we're supposed to be like Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so magical, but like he does do some misogynist ship.

1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He's bursting into your house like the cool man he's

1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>He's saying like, well, she's wearing a dress, she probably

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be harassed. And then and then the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the script plays out is like it endorses magical

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's p o v of like the women. That was

1:23:16.200 --> 1:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>always kind of frustrating where it seemed like in some

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<v Speaker 1>areas of the script, Mike's perspective was kind of challenged

1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and moved forward. But in Whenever, he's like judging a

1:23:26.880 --> 1:23:30.919
<v Speaker 1>woman based on what he thinks he's observing from a distance.

1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:34.880
<v Speaker 1>In the script, it always bears out that he was right,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Brooke, which falls into the not

1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:39.879
<v Speaker 1>like the other girls saying you were talking about earlier,

1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's like with this girl who's turning, he's like,

1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>oh no, she wants to be harassed. She came here

1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to be harassed. And then when the kid from Beastly

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<v Speaker 1>goes up and it's like, like, like whatever he says

1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to her, she's like wow, oh my god, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like in a way that it's like if someone came

1:23:58.080 --> 1:23:59.679
<v Speaker 1>up to me when I was twenty one and said

1:23:59.720 --> 1:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I was in Beastly, yeah, I would be like, I

1:24:02.960 --> 1:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that. Cool. Yeah, I'm not like other girls.

1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see Beastly in theaters. Um. The last thing

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<v Speaker 1>here is that there's an instance of body shaming where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a part of the movie where Big Dick Ritchie

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<v Speaker 1>me is that how we decided I was, I can't remember, so,

1:24:29.680 --> 1:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>but this behavior does not exemplify anything I would ever do.

1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>He picks up a fuller figured woman and then immediately

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>his back is injured and he has to walk off stage,

1:24:42.520 --> 1:24:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's like also played for laughs, and the movie

1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't challenge that in any way. And it just shames

1:24:50.920 --> 1:24:56.479
<v Speaker 1>this nameless woman. So yeah, it did come out in

1:24:57.960 --> 1:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>is the conclusion that I would like to draw very much.

1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Did did you have anything else you wanted to talk about? Um?

1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:11.519
<v Speaker 1>I think in general, I mean I think, going off

1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the stuff, it just seems like there were some missed

1:25:14.000 --> 1:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>opportunities in this movie that maybe we're addressed in the sequel.

1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Magic Mike's Last Dance. It might just

1:25:21.439 --> 1:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>be a really long funeral movie. I don't know, or

1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a resurrection story. It starts at Magical Michael's

1:25:30.360 --> 1:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>funeral and then he's like whoa, and he's like, I've

1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:43.120
<v Speaker 1>last dance. I'm available to direct that. But anyways, it

1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>just felt like this this movie was it. We talked

1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>about this all the time, but like movies of this

1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>era specifically, it feels like a stepping stone towards more inclusive,

1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>better movies, where this movie I think does show a

1:25:56.640 --> 1:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of empathy towards its characters in a way that

1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>sex workers in general and and male sex workers are

1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>not generally shown. UM. I wish that there were more

1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:09.599
<v Speaker 1>movies about women sex workers and marginalized sex workers. Who

1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>are you know, dealing with ship that is much more

1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>immediately dangerous than what Magical Michael is dealing with, which

1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>also is really difficult. Like there's just there's not enough

1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>movies about sex work in general that present sex workers

1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>as people, you know, and this movie I think is

1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:32.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely a stepping stone towards that and also doesn't get

1:26:32.520 --> 1:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>into the realm of tragedy porn where I feel like

1:26:35.960 --> 1:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's another risk that you run um where it's like

1:26:39.360 --> 1:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it is still a fun movie. It's all I mean,

1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>there's such a horny legacy with this horn what is

1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that we should enter that into our vocabulary horny legacy, tone, poem,

1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>what else? This movie has a lot of horny death,

1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>horny depths, horny and but then a horny depth can

1:26:56.960 --> 1:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>turn into a horny legacy over time. True, it feels

1:27:01.000 --> 1:27:03.360
<v Speaker 1>like a step in the right direction, but ultimately, like

1:27:03.439 --> 1:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about, like it does calm down on

1:27:06.240 --> 1:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>this bizarrely conservative end of like, well, only by you know,

1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>giving up sex work was he able to find true

1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>happiness And and also in that way, even like the

1:27:18.960 --> 1:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>way that we haven't really talked about how Adam's storyline ends,

1:27:21.840 --> 1:27:25.479
<v Speaker 1>but the storyline with Adam ends where he's completely had

1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>his ass saved by Magical Michael, who's given up his

1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>life savings to save his ass, and then responds by

1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>being like thanks Mike, that was really cool, and then

1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>immediately taking Mike's job and then being like, well, I

1:27:37.920 --> 1:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm Mike now. Like again, it's like a Santa

1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Claus situation, almost like he killed Magic Mike and now

1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he's Magic Mike. He right, He like took all of

1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Magic Mike's money and now he's Magic Mike. I feel

1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:55.719
<v Speaker 1>like that way maybe a little undersavened by the story,

1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but like even even that, I've like the way that

1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>his arc ends ends up kind of depicting his profession

1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in a bad light of like by him staying in

1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>stripping in sex work that makes him a bad person,

1:28:08.160 --> 1:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, no, what makes him a shitty person

1:28:10.439 --> 1:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is that he took all of Magic Mike's money and

1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>then Santa claused him, Like that's the bad thing. But

1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much this movie is interested in

1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the kind of like making that separation right. I will

1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.559
<v Speaker 1>say though, that I did appreciate that this movie largely

1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>centered a male friendship, even though every movie ever made

1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>is about men, so few of them actually like explore

1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in an interesting way. Yes, Jamie, I'm just saying it

1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>does kind of fall into the fathers and sons troup

1:28:40.280 --> 1:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>where there's so many father's son but but but in

1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this movie it does work there. Yeah, I mean we

1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>have sort of like a mentor daddy figure. There's so

1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>many daddies in this movie. Come on and like Matthew

1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>McConaughey is Channing Tatum's daddy. But he's a grand bad

1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.439
<v Speaker 1>dad Daddy. He's a bad daddy. We don't like him.

1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>This daddy has too much money. We gotta get this

1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>daddy out of here. And then Channing Tatum good daddy

1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>kid from beastly. We don't not not a daddy yet,

1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:20.599
<v Speaker 1>aspiring daddy. He's he's not yet a daddy still a son.

1:29:20.840 --> 1:29:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Got a fucking human centipede of daddy's Some good, some bad, uh.

1:29:32.760 --> 1:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>For some reason in this movie it worked for me. Generally,

1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like enough with the daddies, But in this movie

1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>there is a the spectrum of daddy's is on display.

1:29:42.120 --> 1:29:45.839
<v Speaker 1>There's good daddies, there's bad daddies, there's morally ambiguous daddies.

1:29:46.960 --> 1:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>The point is I appreciate that this movie explored male

1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>friendship in a way that was fairly nuanced and interesting.

1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially because by the end it's like, are

1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:59.439
<v Speaker 1>they even going to be friends anymore? I mean, knows

1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>him a bunch of money, but it's gonna be a

1:30:01.240 --> 1:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>weird Thanksgiving because he's dating his sister. But yes, yeah, anyway,

1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's all I had. Well, then let's get

1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>into the reason that people think they listened to this

1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>show sometimes, which is does it pass the bactest? That

1:30:19.280 --> 1:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is again, we've talked about this so many times, but

1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it's my favorite way to find out that someone is

1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>lying about listening to the show, where they're like, yeah,

1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I love finding out if it passed the bacon from

1:30:30.640 --> 1:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like do you think? We just go through the script

1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:34.679
<v Speaker 1>line by line and be like, m does that pass?

1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess not not that one. That would be fun, though,

1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>turn the page. Let's see if this one does this

1:30:39.760 --> 1:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>movie past test. I don't think so, because Joanna and

1:30:44.800 --> 1:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Brooke do talk to each other about swimsuits and tattoos.

1:30:50.439 --> 1:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But but magical Michael is right there and like interjecting, yeah,

1:30:56.160 --> 1:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I I saw that as well, and I and and

1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole sub text of that conversation is Joanna is

1:31:01.840 --> 1:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the vibe of like, is she going

1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:07.599
<v Speaker 1>to fuck me and Magical Michael because they're always looking

1:31:07.640 --> 1:31:11.479
<v Speaker 1>for a third which I did appreciate that was presented

1:31:11.600 --> 1:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>very matter of factually the movie, where like Joanna and

1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Mike have been hooking up for a while, they're always

1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>looking for a third and there, and that's just like

1:31:20.240 --> 1:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>who they are. They're very different people. They have the

1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>same interest and that's what they want. Magical Michael wants.

1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be a wife guy. That's his business whatever.

1:31:30.080 --> 1:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>But I did like that Joanna was presented as like

1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a fully fleshed out character who just like, this is

1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>something she wants to do. But the subtext of that

1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>whole conversation is that she's like Army and Mike gonna

1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>fuck this girl, and so yeah, I don't think that

1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:46.639
<v Speaker 1>is Also a third that they could have brought in

1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>is her fiance that she who seems to very much

1:31:51.320 --> 1:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>know what's I was so confused about the fiance scene

1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>because the fiance was sort of like should I get

1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:59.639
<v Speaker 1>out of here? I'm like, this guy is so fucking

1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>chip right, what is it? He was like, I'm gonna

1:32:03.200 --> 1:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>go look at he's he literally just like I'm gonna

1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>go look in the mirror. So it almost implies that

1:32:09.360 --> 1:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>they are in an open relationship, which makes it weird

1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that Joanna wouldn't have told Mike that. And I wish

1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>we kind of got a landing place there because I

1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't dislike the Joanna character. I didn't feel like she

1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was made out to be a villain, except for the

1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that her storyline ended so abruptly that you feel

1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't get closure with her because it was

1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>clear that like she was conflicted on how she felt

1:32:30.360 --> 1:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>about Mike. It seems like she and Mike wanted different things.

1:32:33.080 --> 1:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was kind of unique and that

1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:39.439
<v Speaker 1>you usually see, like in big movies, that the woman

1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in a heterosexual relationship really wants something more and that

1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the man doesn't. It was clear in this situation that

1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Mike wanted more than Joanna was willing to give. But

1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>then it was like it just sort of stopped when

1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like this random hot guy was like, I

1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>better get out of here, and then then that was

1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>just kind of that was just kind of the end

1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of the story for him. Um, but I liked her

1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>story in general. I like to think that there was

1:33:02.800 --> 1:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a final scene that got cut or something, because it

1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just felt kind of abrupt. Same. Anyways, it doesn't pass

1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the Bactle test. Sorry, but how about that nipple scale

1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>of oursot it zero to five nipples based on an

1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>examination of the movie through an intersectional feminist lens M.

1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:31.759
<v Speaker 1>This movie made me horny. Five nipples and that's our show.

1:33:31.880 --> 1:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for corret I I would say, like, I don't know.

1:33:39.640 --> 1:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess two and a half. I do appreciate that

1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>this movie attempts to humanize sex work, even though it

1:33:46.000 --> 1:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>is about men boo and uh, predominantly white men. But

1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's enough. I don't know, it's it's

1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>just one of those like split down the middle things

1:33:58.040 --> 1:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>where it is doing some cool, subversive, interesting things and

1:34:02.479 --> 1:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is also adhering to some other problematic tropes of the time.

1:34:07.400 --> 1:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Two and a half nipples. I'll give one two Brooke,

1:34:13.960 --> 1:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll give one. No, actually no, I don't take it

1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>back hate women. I don't like that she was all like,

1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>sex work is gross, uh and you can't kiss me

1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>until you quit. I'm gonna give one to the pig

1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>who eats vomit. I'm going to give the other nipple

1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to the vomit. No, I don't know, two and a

1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>half nipples to the pig the end I'll do I'll

1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>do three. I think I like this movie a lot.

1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>It's certainly made me. I didn't even know if it

1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe horny. There's something about like there's I this is

1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a personal thing, but like there's a threshold when when

1:34:53.040 --> 1:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>someone gets too hot it becomes science to me, where

1:34:58.200 --> 1:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, this is really like I put on

1:34:59.920 --> 1:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a fucking monocle. I'm like interesting, you know, like at

1:35:03.840 --> 1:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>some point when a person gets to like traditionally hot,

1:35:06.920 --> 1:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it becomes scary to me. But that's said I this

1:35:11.240 --> 1:35:14.639
<v Speaker 1>movie is. It's a really horny movie. I like how

1:35:14.720 --> 1:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it does. I mean, it's like, and we've talked about

1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this a little bit, but it's like, you know, shows

1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>really macho, masculine stuff, but then it also shows the

1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>other side of it, and it shows like the challenges

1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:29.559
<v Speaker 1>that are presented by like having to constantly perform this,

1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and it is I think like it was ahead of

1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:36.479
<v Speaker 1>its time at least for showing sex work in an

1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:39.519
<v Speaker 1>empathetic way, even though it is certainly not perfect based

1:35:39.560 --> 1:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on what we've discussed, and and it also you know,

1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>just kind of you know, I don't want to use

1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the phrase interrogates masculinity because it makes me feel like

1:35:47.120 --> 1:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a fucking loser. But whatever, Jamie, we're podcasters, were

1:35:54.479 --> 1:35:58.959
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna go walk into traffic. Um, well, anyways,

1:35:59.000 --> 1:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it interrogates my I'll give it three nipples. It's it's

1:36:04.479 --> 1:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a good movie. Yeah, it's it's not. Uh. My

1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:10.519
<v Speaker 1>main issues with it are the way that it ends

1:36:10.520 --> 1:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in a needlessly ambiguous way, given that it seemed like

1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:18.559
<v Speaker 1>it was building towards a more decisive conclusion. Um. And

1:36:18.600 --> 1:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>then it's sort of like at the end, I didn't

1:36:22.160 --> 1:36:25.599
<v Speaker 1>like how the women in the movie were. It was like,

1:36:25.760 --> 1:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>there's only one female character in the entire movie, and

1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't really have anyone to talk to, when it

1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>was like it would have been interesting to give her

1:36:32.680 --> 1:36:34.559
<v Speaker 1>more people to talk to, and just more women in

1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:41.240
<v Speaker 1>general that we're not very background character generalized. Um, it's

1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:44.439
<v Speaker 1>a really white movie. And and like, especially because they

1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>specifically grounded in Tampa, that also makes no fucking sense. Um.

1:36:49.080 --> 1:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like it's Steven Soderberg, you know, that's

1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:56.919
<v Speaker 1>a Steven Soderberg problem, I think. Anyways, Uh, three nipples.

1:36:56.960 --> 1:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll give one to Channing Tatum doing the sexy worm.

1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll give one to the chair that everyone's coming all

1:37:05.040 --> 1:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>over with his zabraprint on it. And I'll give my

1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:17.720
<v Speaker 1>final nipple to the big dick. Okay, the one that

1:37:17.760 --> 1:37:23.639
<v Speaker 1>they keep saying swim low that one. Nice. Well, folks,

1:37:24.160 --> 1:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that's our show. Thank you coming. Uh we don't normally

1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:35.519
<v Speaker 1>we would have time for questions, but guess what we don't.

1:37:35.600 --> 1:37:37.840
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1:37:37.880 --> 1:37:40.280
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1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:42.439
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1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:53.040
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