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Speaker 1: In best start changing it with the bec Del cast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: what up? So I'm trying to recapture our electric live energy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah. So the episode that you're about

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Speaker 1: to hear is an episode that we recorded during a

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Speaker 1: It was a blast. It really was. What you're I mean,

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Speaker 1: something that you're missing is Yeah, Caitlin gave me a

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Speaker 1: lap dance. I had cramps that day, so I didn't

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Speaker 1: the lap dance as best I could. Thank you, I felt,

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Speaker 1: I felt, I felt great about it. You were. That's

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Speaker 1: no reflection on your skill. You were incredible. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Because the movie was magic Mike,

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Speaker 1: show going to start smash cut to Pony by genuine playing.

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Speaker 1: I come out on stage, I start taking my clothes off,

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Speaker 1: make a Roku original. Uh, this is what's going to

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Speaker 1: we're hot, and and we can dance and we give

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy. Thank you. I think that was exciting.

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Speaker 1: for spilling Mike's heart immediately. That's how you know that

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Speaker 1: Welcome back at the Sunday afternoon. Um, how's everybody doing?

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Speaker 1: Does everyone have a drink? Does everyone have peanut eminem's?

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Speaker 1: Are we all safe or we all feel like good? Awesome? Awesome?

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Speaker 1: is Caitlin Durante. Yeah, my name is Jamie Loftus and uh,

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Speaker 1: Has anyone ever here ever seen the movie Magical Michael? Really,

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Speaker 1: of and then there's a little bit of I kept

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00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: thinking about the chairs in that club and how they

418
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: just like probably have to, like I put the foam

419
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: off the chairs. Every name is that? How come works? Sorry,

420
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm a very yes, understandably, someone from the audience said

421
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: foam and they you were right. Um, I'm okay, We're

422
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: gonna sidebar after this? Is that not healthy? No, you're

423
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: you're You're fine, James, Okay. So the whole the whole

424
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: thing is a site to behold, which is what I

425
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: wrote in my notes. Um, very very boomer mom of you.

426
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: That's a boomer mom at any strip club what a

427
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: site to behold. Mike is usually front and center in

428
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: all of this, although we do see different dancers individual acts,

429
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: and then when it's time for Tarzan's act Jamie's act,

430
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: he turns out to be passed out backstage oh so

431
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: well that it feels like targeted and aggressive. So Mike

432
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: throws Adam on stage to fill the spot, and Adam

433
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: sucks at dancing, but Dallas and Mike see his potential,

434
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: so they decide to bring him into the group. The

435
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: next morning, Mike drives Adam home and Mike meets Adam's sister, Brooke,

436
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, love interest alert. She's she's doing

437
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: this thing that and I really liked her performance and

438
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: I like this actor, but she's doing this thing where

439
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like very of like I'm awkward, and you're like,

440
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: I know, like, but she's kind of she keeps being like, um,

441
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I like you know, you're like, okay, I get I

442
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: get it. But she's in like a bikini. She's the

443
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life, but

444
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm awkward. Like, okay, hey we exist. I'm

445
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: kidding in defense of my community. Okay. So Mike has

446
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: met Brooke, and Mike reassures Brook that he will take

447
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: care of Adam. So then Mike takes Adam shopping for

448
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: some stripper apparel, which is also a very boomer mom

449
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: way to stripper. Wow. Okay. Um. I was hoping that

450
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: we would get a shopping montage from men, because we

451
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: always get so many shopping montages from from the gals,

452
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: but um, we never get I would have loved to

453
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: see the kid from Beastley try on a bunch of

454
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: outfits that looked not good. And then Jan channing tatums

455
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: there with like thumbs upper right. Meanwhile, like girls just

456
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: want to have fun is playing. It's like Lizzie McGuire

457
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: s because what I was hoping for. Similarly, I thought

458
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: he was going to get a like haircut type makeover too,

459
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: because he has like a scruffy scruff. He has like

460
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: a haircut that's like a little unkempt. I thought they

461
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: were going to like clean him up. But they're like, no,

462
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: you're you look perfect actually, and they're in they're in Tampa,

463
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: so but yeah, I was the same thing, by the way, um,

464
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: but you can have you know, the facial hair is

465
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: not an issue in that region. Okay. So Adam now

466
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: has all this stripper parel and Brooke discovers it and

467
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: she's like, what the hell is this brother, and he's like,

468
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: it's for work. Um. We cut to Brooke at the

469
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: club where she is watching her brother do a sexy dance,

470
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: looking so contemplative. She's looking at him like do I

471
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: like this? I'm like, right, it's she is watching very attentively,

472
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, I I guess there are so many

473
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: ways to support your brother, horny dancing and staring at

474
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: him really hard, just like doesn't feel like the best

475
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: way you can be present without staring at him really hard. Right,

476
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: And also so at this point, Adam has gotten much

477
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: better at dancing. Then she sticks around for Mike's act.

478
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: To be fair, Mike is always popping up around Brooke

479
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: me and like, you should stick around, Like that's kind

480
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: of is thing, Like he's like pratt food. At one point,

481
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: he tells her to stick around her own home. I'm like,

482
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: I think she will, like she lives here, I think

483
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: she will stick around. Um, But when they're at the club,

484
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: he specifically says you should stick around because he knows

485
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: he's about to do the sexy worm how I refer

486
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: to all the Channing Tatum's dancing. Right, So she watches

487
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: him dance to pony By genuine Again, that performance pales

488
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: in comparison to the one I did just a half

489
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: hour ago. But you know, let's round of applause for her.

490
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum's effort is what you're applauding. But again, it

491
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: sucks compared to mine. Star bage. Yeah, yeah, Zoe Kravitt

492
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: should be dating you are they dating? And Brooks sees

493
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: this and she's like, wow, not as good as Caitlin,

494
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty impressed still. Then we see Mike try

495
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: to get a loan from a bank to start his

496
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: furniture business, and even though he has cash for a

497
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: down payment, he has bad credit, so they won't give

498
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: him the loan. Then Mike, Adam, and Brooke all go

499
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: to a Fourth of July party. They're becoming such good friends.

500
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: I also wrote that also notes that's also Mike bursts

501
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: into their home at sunrise and it's like, we're going

502
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: to a party, and then you know, she's like it's

503
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: seven am, and he's like, do you want to stick around?

504
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Like you just climbed through her fucking window? Dude, Like yeah.

505
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: But then she's like, okay, maybe there's something here, you know.

506
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: So they test that saying Steve Bushy burst into your house.

507
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like Steve Bushey broke into my home, I

508
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: would let him do anything to me. But I mean

509
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: the idea in general, yeah, yeah, fair. So they go

510
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: to this Fourth July party and Mike and Brooke are

511
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of vibing, but Mike is still he's still fucking

512
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: Joanna here and there, but she's kind of aloof, so

513
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't really seem like it's going anywhere. I and

514
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: she also like she's working on her masters, and I

515
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 1: was like, wow, it's Caitlin. It is me. Caitlin's fucking

516
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum and she have it either way. That's where yes, okay.

517
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: Dallas then announces that he has bought a club in

518
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Miami and he's moving the whole operation there from Tampa.

519
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: He says that Mike will make seven and a half

520
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: percent of the profits from this new venture, although Dallas

521
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: originally had promised ten percent. So Mike is like, what

522
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah, Mike is very Cheryl sandberging on his

523
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: own behalf for much of this movie, where he is

524
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: and I and and usually when I say Cheryl Sandberg,

525
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean it as a pejorative, but in this case,

526
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: like he's repeatedly trying to be like, no, I want

527
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: the correct amount of money, and no one ever gives

528
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: Mike the correct amount of money. What is true partially

529
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: why this is kind of a tragic move. Anyways, Well,

530
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: we're getting to the part where it gets even sadder, right, So,

531
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: things from this point on start to go down hill

532
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: for pretty much all the characters, starting with at because

533
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: he starts doing drugs which drugs. I don't know, the

534
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: ones that come in party packs there. No, he's doing ecstasy.

535
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: But then they're also like, oh, I don't know. He

536
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: was probably on G, and I was like, what's G? Oh,

537
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you don't know what G is? Everyone play a longer.

538
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: Caitlin doesn't even know what G is. Loser, We're all

539
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: funked up on G right now. I don't I can't

540
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: wake up without a couple of Stevie hot G. Yeah.

541
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: They have various units of G lying around and G

542
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: units yeah, wow, wow wow, feeling like it's two thousand six. Okay,

543
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: so he starts doing drugs. He also starts selling drugs

544
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: with tobias. Meanwhile, Mike and Brooke continue to vibe. Every

545
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: time you say tobias, I think it's arrested developments tobiasph

546
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: and he's yeah. So Mike and Brooke are vibing still more,

547
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: and he asks if she wants to go get some

548
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: food sometime, and she's like, oh, like on a date

549
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I don't know. Well, usually she's

550
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: also dating tall paul Um who sucks and we get

551
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was a very fun effective use of dialogue.

552
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: How you find out Tall Paul sucks in a single

553
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: line of dialogue, like he's just sounding like a fucking door,

554
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Like what does he say? Like he's like he's talking

555
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: about whatever the equivalent of crypto is, and you're just like,

556
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: all right, I'm asleep, Like break up with Tall Paul, right, Yeah,

557
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: he gets dumped. I don't even you know, poor tall Paul.

558
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a great guy, he's not so. Mike and

559
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: Adam then do a gig at a sorority. Adam gives

560
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: one of the girls an ecstasy pill or maybe it's

561
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: like a unit of g you know, and all of

562
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: the bros at the sorority are like, oh my god,

563
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: did you give my girl ecstasy? And they're like no,

564
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: And then there's like this huge fight. It escalates quickly

565
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: and Mike and Adam have to like get the funk

566
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: out of there, and Adam leaves behind his backpack, which

567
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: is full of the units of drugs that he has

568
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: been selling with Tobias. Nothing gets between a nineteen year

569
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: old boy and his backpack. And that's just a fact.

570
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: Anything that's in the backpack, if it's a nineteen year

571
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: old boy, is not good. It's not good. True. Yeah,

572
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: things continue to spiral out of control, like Mike gets

573
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: in an argument with Dallas, Mike learns that Joanna is engaged.

574
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Then one night Mike and Adam get all fucked up,

575
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: and then the next morning, Adam is passed out in

576
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: his own vomit. Brooke comes in and freaks out and

577
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: she's like, what did you do to my brother? You

578
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: were supposed to take care of him? And We're like, wow,

579
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: she's being so shrill. That's certainly how much everyone hand there,

580
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Like why is she's she's being so ridiculous. I'm like,

581
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: her brother is like almost dead, and he's like, chill, Chill.

582
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm maybe not advocating for magical Michael as

583
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: much as the movie wants me to write, Yes, if

584
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: my little brother was. I just god, I kept connecting

585
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: really hard with Brooke in this movie because I have

586
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: a little brother, and I was like, if my brother

587
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: was passed out in a pile of his own vomit

588
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: and some himbo told me to chill, I would fucking

589
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: murder him. I was like, that's my fucking brother. Like

590
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: there's okay. So then some dudes come in and trash

591
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: Mike's place because they're looking for Adam, who turns out

592
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: to have lost way more units of drugs than he

593
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: had said. He of what drugs? What is g don't

594
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: tell her it's great, it's it's wine. I'll figure it

595
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: out by the end. Okay. So Adam owes to Bias

596
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: like ten grand, so Mike, yes, Mike pays off Adam's

597
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: debt with the money he had been saving for his

598
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: furniture business. So we're like, oh no, we can't have

599
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: those ugly ass tables made out of bottles washed up

600
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: on the shore of the fucking ocean. But good for him,

601
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Good for him. Mike goes to talk to Adam and

602
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: he runs into Brook. They have a very tense conversation

603
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know what, Miami is just gonna

604
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: be a bigger, batter version of this and I don't

605
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: really believe in you. So nothing gets resolved here yet.

606
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Then Adam and Mike kind of reconcile. Adam tells Mike

607
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: that he'll pay him back for all of those ten geez.

608
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: That scene is I mean, we'll get back to that.

609
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: That scene was so frustrating to me because that was like,

610
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Adam is such a I feel I feel for Adam,

611
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: but he's such a fucking mess. In that scene where

612
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: he's like talking to Mike, he's like, yeah, it's all good.

613
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Miami and everything's gonna be great.

614
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: And you're like, it's not going to be great. You're

615
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: so fucked my man. But but like, hang on to

616
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: this moment, I guess. And then it's the last show

617
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: in Tampa before the big move to Miami, and Mike

618
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: ends up bailing on this show and he goes to

619
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Brooke and she's like, wow, I heard what you did

620
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: from my brother. And he's like, yeah, I'm not going

621
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: to go to Miami after all. She's like, well for

622
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: She's like, let's smooch and then we'll get breakfast together

623
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and then he's like oh right, and then they go

624
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: and then they go, and then sorry reversion and uh

625
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: that's the end of the movies. Oh boy, where do

626
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: we want to start with this movie? Do you want

627
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: to start by? Should we paletate clean? Should you grind

628
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: hip me again? Before we kind of get into it, Yeah,

629
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: we should do like a little intermission and then everyone

630
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: how is everyone doing with their mikes? Is everyone good?

631
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Is everyone good? That they're the people who I gave

632
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: mikes are have passed out, Like I feel sick. Everyone's

633
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: good for all, for all the listener. Everyone I gave

634
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: mix hard Lemonade too is alive. And where should we

635
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: start with the discussion of this movie. I think there's

636
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: there's so much more going on in this movie than

637
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean this is. I feel like it's an interesting

638
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: case of because I went back because I didn't see

639
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: this movie when it came out. I was very curious

640
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: about how this movie was marketed because I vaguely remembered

641
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: how it was marketed, and it is marketed not for

642
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: what the movie is. It is not marketed as like,

643
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: uh movie that is like eight about the interpersonal struggles

644
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: of mail strippers. It's marketed as ninety minutes of mail

645
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: strippers dancing, which is kind of I feel like, been

646
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: the legacy of the movie because there's the Vegas Show,

647
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: there's all this stuff, and that's like neither a good

648
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: nor a bad thing. But I just think it's an

649
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: interesting case of like it was very much marketed as

650
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: like horny, horny, horny, fun, fun fun, where the movie

651
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: is like doing doing horny fun but also doing all

652
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: this other stuff that wasn't present in the trailer or

653
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: the marketing or like the magazine covers or anything like that.

654
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Like you think you're getting ninety minutes of himbos, but

655
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: you're getting himbos and pathos, right, which is the formula

656
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: for any good movie. Yeah, So, I mean, yeah, I

657
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: appreciate the movie for what it is. I think if

658
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: it was just like Himbo's you're saying you wouldn't like it.

659
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 1: If it was just Himbo's Get a Grip, It would

660
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: have been fun if it was just himbos. But I

661
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: liked that it wasn't right. I mean, well, what the

662
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: what would the plot have been? I mean, you can

663
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: just go to a male strip show if you just

664
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: want to see ninety minutes of himbos, which I have,

665
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: and it costs a lot more than it does to

666
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: see Magic Mike. And that's a good thing because you

667
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to a strip show, you're not tipping.

668
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Well that's not good. Um okay, So what were we

669
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, the marketing, I will say, I think

670
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for so. I know a

671
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: lot of men have seen this movie, Brave of you, um,

672
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: but I think there is something to be said for

673
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: a movie that has almost an entirely like, I guess

674
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: straight women fan base, because I don't leave bisexual because

675
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: we're a you're absolutely right for it. Sorry, no, no, no,

676
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: that was by eraser on my part, and I apologize. Um,

677
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: I guess any gender who likes Channing Tatum, which actually

678
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: really broadens the right. And now we're back to a

679
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: circle any gender and any sexuality who likes Channing Tatum.

680
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: This is the target demo for this movie. So um,

681
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: but you know, in kind of a narrower scope, it's

682
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of horny women who are into this movie.

683
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's cool. The end of my

684
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: awesome thought awesome thoughts with Caitlin, No, I I think

685
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like there's not a lot of

686
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: movies that are catered to corny women who want dick

687
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: like that. That's great. I I love that, and I

688
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: include myself there. Um, brave, thank you so much. You know,

689
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: not a lot of I'm kidding, but I really liked um,

690
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean magical. Michael himself a complex character. I feel

691
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: like there's there's so much going on with him where

692
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: you even before you see him strip I liked how

693
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I sort of expected him to be stripping right away

694
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: and then it just to be a ninety minute MP

695
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: four Channing Tam stripping. But the context for this movie

696
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: is it's Channing st Channing Stadium. I was Jason Statham

697
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum. I was making Himbos into one person. Um. No,

698
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum was a stripper in Florida and was trying

699
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: to make a movie about that experience and was looking

700
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: for a director to shape that with him. He originally

701
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: wanted the director from Drive, Nicholas winding Refn, which would

702
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: have been like a very different movie with way more

703
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: bisexual lighting. Yeah, but ended up like he happened to

704
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: be working with Steven Soderberg at the time. Steven Soderberg

705
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: was like, I could make a movie about Himbos, and

706
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum, who seems like a very affable person, Like

707
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, make a movie about Himbo's like and

708
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: um sort of like built out this world that it

709
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: is not like directly autobiographical, because it sounds like the

710
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: men who were in this movie got like a lot

711
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: of say and who their characters were and like building

712
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: out their individual routines and like I guess that the

713
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: guys who play the strippers in the movie got to

714
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: figure out like what their individual act was, which gives

715
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: me a lot of questions about who chose to be

716
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: the Kendall Sure. I mean, I have a lot of

717
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: questions about Tarzan tar I mean, ask me, but I

718
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: like that in that. But most of the movie is

719
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: about kind of like magical Michael's struggle outside of sex work. Um,

720
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: which is interesting, right, I think this movie does because

721
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: we've talked, We've had a number of conversations about sex

722
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: work and specifically stripping on the show with various movies

723
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: we've covered like Hustlers, Zola, even like Coyote, Ugly and uh,

724
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: Full Monty and The Full Monty. Right, So a lot

725
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: of these movies focus on women who are doing sex

726
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: work and stripping, and I feel like, I mean, the

727
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: issues and the scrutiny the sex workers face, I feel

728
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: like disproportionately affect women and non binary Uh sex workers,

729
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: especially those of color and male sex workers often get

730
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: left out of the conversation, but you know, they deserve

731
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: to have their lives be represented on screen. To wow,

732
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: m R A. I would like to distance myself from

733
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: Caitlin at this time as she bravely defends men. But

734
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I will say though that this movie, unlike others that

735
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: we've covered on the podcast that focus on women in

736
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: sex work, presents the sex work is like far more

737
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: glitzy and glamorous in the way that women don't have

738
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: that same luxury of being presented their work. If that

739
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, No, I mean, I I mean, we

740
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: can't speak on behalf of men, even though we have

741
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: many times. But I I do think that the way

742
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: that sex work is presented in this movie, it's it's complicated, right,

743
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: because it's not presented as like fully, like this is

744
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: the answer and like this is an extremely empowering is

745
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: presented as a means to an end, which I feel

746
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: like has a lot to do with the time period

747
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: that this movie was made in and takes place in,

748
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: which introduces this like bizarre sub genre that we now have,

749
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: which is like recession sex work. Uh. But this, like

750
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: this and Hustlers very much belong in that like expanded

751
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: universe of like late two thousand's recession um sex work,

752
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: like because that's when Magic Mike was developed, and that's

753
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, by the time Hustlers came out. It was

754
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: a period piece in that which I hope everyone feels

755
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: elderly hearing that. Um. But in any case, I mean,

756
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting the way that male sex

757
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: works are presented in this movie versus women sex workers

758
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: strictly because it's like it's not presented as like it's

759
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: the exact opposite, but it's just like a separate set

760
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: of issues, right, because it's like they are performing masculinity

761
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: for an audience that is foaming at the loins for it,

762
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: and that's great. They're not. There's a lot of issues

763
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: that are shared where it's like the financial issues and like,

764
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean you can almost argue like a gig economy

765
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: style issue of like they're dependent on tips, um and

766
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: other Outside of that, fucking McConaughey has given them fifty

767
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: bucks a night, which is ridiculous, Um in any year

768
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: for someone supporting your in like making your entire business

769
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: is fifty plus tips is just bullshit, right, And so

770
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: there's there are some shared issues, and then there's also

771
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: issues that kind of separate performers where it doesn't seem

772
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: like you don't really get the feeling that the the

773
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: magical Michaels this world like, they are not made to

774
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: feel unsafe in the way that we see women. Sex

775
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: workers and marginalized sex workers in general are generally made

776
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: to feel they have problems that are independent of that.

777
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: They're like performing masculinity to this wild extent. And I

778
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: always thought it was like, I don't know, I like

779
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: watch this movie three times to get ready because I

780
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: like to be horny and I like to think about

781
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: class issues. So this movie is like uniquely tuned to

782
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: my interests. UM. But stuff where it's like Channing Tatum

783
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: cannot uh, I can't get it out of the danger

784
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: field zone here, he can't get no respect when but

785
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: like in certain settings where he's like performing manual labor,

786
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: which is like when he's roofing, when he's doing construction work,

787
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: when he's doing all these other side gigs that he's doing,

788
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: which also very much puts him in you know, like

789
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: this age and in the recession specifically, um, he is

790
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: not compensated correctly. He's always having to advocate for himself

791
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: to be compensated well. But when he performs those tasks

792
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: on stage, when he performs as a construction worker, like

793
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: he gets a ton of money, and it's just I

794
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: don't I mean, I don't have a finishing thought. But

795
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: you're just like, maybe we should just all strip our

796
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: job instead of doing them. Yeah, let's strip podcasting. Podcasting

797
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: should be um, eradicated, eradicate should be lal, we do

798
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: have the most embarrassing job, hell show to a screeching halt. Um. Well,

799
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: that and he's unable to get that bank loan, so

800
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: like the man or like you know, the banks and

801
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: that whole those like financial institutions don't respect him or

802
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: and that that's like true for I think sex workers

803
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: across the gender spectrum, where um, he has a stack

804
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: of so much money and they're just like, well, um,

805
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: your credit score sucks because we rely like what even

806
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: is credit? I don't know, but uh, he can't get

807
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: any respect because of that because he says like his

808
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: businesses deal exclusively in cash and right, and then it's

809
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: like he's immediately judged on the hearing of that because

810
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: that has like an implication that the bank loan persons

811
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: is like, well, you're not going to get alone, which

812
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: I feel like the movie plays that off very very well,

813
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: Like that scene with the bank employee, I really like

814
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: I had to watch it back a couple of times

815
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: because it's this combination of like he is being actively

816
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: discriminated against for you know, even implying like that he

817
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: is a sex worker, and then on the other end,

818
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: he also kind of gets like injured by the rejection,

819
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: where where the bank loan person is like, well, there's

820
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: a program that we can help you out with, and

821
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: then I feel like it was like a kind of

822
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: a very masculine response to be like I don't need help, No,

823
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'm gonna go, and you're like, no, he

824
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: caused her, sweetheart, but your ugly furniture. I like to

825
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: think that he like gives her his business plan or whatever,

826
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: and she was like maybe considering giving him alone, but

827
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: then when she sees his furniture, she's like, um, sorry,

828
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: I cannot give you this loan and has nothing to

829
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: do with a big bank. It's just I don't want

830
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: to support whatever this is. I also, I was like,

831
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: imagine someone who is not to keep dunking on Channing

832
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: Tatum's fictional furniture, but imagine someone who makes furniture that

833
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: looks like that coming into your house and being like

834
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: is this true? From Ikea, and it's like, go funk yourself. Man,

835
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: you're making a fucking like table out of like a

836
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: pane of glass and and five of these, you know,

837
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: like five Mike's hard camps. I'm sorry, yes then audio

838
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so um anyways, im Yeah, she is so

839
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: horny for him. At the beginning of that scene though,

840
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: she's like, but that's another I feel like that was

841
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: another thing though. It's like that is like what magical

842
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Michael Uh kind of reverts to is like I'm very charming,

843
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Like I can pull people into my gravitational Channing Tatum

844
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Field very easily. But even that isn't enough to get

845
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: past the discrimination of giving bank loans to someone who

846
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: is giving you all the money that is necessary. But

847
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: because it's all the money that's necessary as a sex worker,

848
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: it's a problem. Right. Yeah. It's also not enough to

849
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: reel in Brooke right or way either. A little bit

850
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: of pride and prejudice energy going on here. She's got

851
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: some prid Do we wanna transition to talking about Brooke?

852
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, here's my first thought. Okay, ready, yeah,

853
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: I should get in the receiving position. I'm gonna straddle

854
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: you again, are you gonna strab Okay? So, I feel

855
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: like a lot of movies do this where there are

856
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: a number of female characters. There's one main one, and

857
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: then there are a few secondary or tertiary characters, and

858
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: most of the female characters in the movie are presented

859
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: in a way that's not especially empathetic. So take this movie,

860
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: for example, the Olivium one character is you know, aloof

861
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: she's standoffish, she's unavailable, and then she turns out to

862
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: be deceitful because she didn't let him know that she

863
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: was engaged. You have your kind of like quote unquote

864
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: did see women like the two year old to like

865
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: go to the club at the beginning? You have various women,

866
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: but none of them are presented as being like viable

867
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: options for our hero except for one. So I feel

868
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: like that's like a very like screenwriterie like show don't

869
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: tell kind of way of just like flat out saying

870
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: she's not like the other girls. She is better because

871
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: all these other girls kind of suck, right, And and

872
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: that is like, I mean, that fits very cleanly into

873
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: like the Steven Soderberg expanded universe. Also, it's i it

874
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: is kind of like a writing shortcut for a male

875
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: screenwriter that's like, I don't know why this woman is

876
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: a character. They're like, oh, what if she like nags

877
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: him a little bit at the beginning, and instead of

878
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: that playing out as it would in the real world,

879
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: which is him not talking to her anymore, it ends

880
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: up being romantic. I that's I like Brooke as a character.

881
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: I do. I do like her, but there are moments

882
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: in the movie where I wasn't totally sure how we

883
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: were supposed to feel about her, right and especially because

884
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: like Mike mistreats her for different child keeps breaking. I

885
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: will say he's like almost every time they meet, he's

886
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: like kicking the door down, fucking kool aid Man style,

887
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: being like we're going to a party like there, which

888
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: I know, like I think the in the in the

889
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: world of the movie, it's like she needs to get

890
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: out of her show a little bit. She's like, seems

891
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: like she really isolates herself. It's he calls her uptight.

892
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: He's like, she's up to she can't hang She's so

893
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: freaking uptight. It's it's weird to me because it's like,

894
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: I feel like this movie is like a weird situation

895
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: where it's like halfway there where like I like Brooklyn,

896
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I understand why she's doing the things

897
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: she's doing, where she's kind of in this bizarre care

898
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: like middling caretaker position for a young adult sibling who

899
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: she can't technically say no to, but who is still

900
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: not mature enough to do fucking anything. The beastly kid

901
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: can't do ship, you know, and like, so she has

902
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: to be his mom, but she can't be his mom

903
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: because he can legally do whatever he wants, and she

904
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: has to support both of them because she has to.

905
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: We don't really know what the situation is with their parents,

906
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: but like it seems like she is kind of his

907
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: primary caretaker and that he certainly can't take care of himself,

908
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: and so you understand like why It's like, yeah, she

909
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have time to go out a lot, like, but

910
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: it seems it seems like the movie understands that in

911
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: some scenes, and then in other scenes that kind of

912
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: like paints her as like a character who is uptight,

913
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, when is she going to find

914
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: the fucking time to be a horny little slut? You know,

915
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: there's only so many hours in the day if there

916
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: were more hours in the day, maybe more of us

917
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: would be horni or little or sluts. I don't know.

918
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: Profound wow, thank you March forth coming. So yeah, he

919
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: Mike's flirtation tactic is just to be very pushy. Um.

920
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't hate all of their interactions, but he is

921
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: not being very cool to her a lot of the time,

922
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: especially in that scene where we already referenced this, but

923
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: Adam is like passed out face first in his own vomit.

924
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: A pig is eating and so gross. I was like, Wow,

925
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: a woman with a little pig before Ariana Grande, I

926
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: didn't know what happened. I thought Ariana Grande invented having

927
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: a little pig as a personality. But there was this

928
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: character in Magic Mike. Yes, uh Nora is that her

929
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: name doesn't seem like the name of a young character,

930
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: but yes, right anyway, so yeah, and she's another female

931
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: character who were like, oh no, she's almost like a

932
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: fem fatalel for a Adam because she's giving him g

933
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: units every day. I can't hear you say gee, and

934
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: it's it's so funny. So anyway, Um, there's a scene

935
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: where Brooke comes in. She's very reasonably upset, especially after

936
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Mike had promised to take care of her brother, especially

937
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: after he had like kind of roped him into this

938
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: job that she and there's a whole other conversation to

939
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: be had about her views on sex work, but um,

940
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: the point is Adam is like, maybe oh deed and dead,

941
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: and she's upset about it, and he's like, why are

942
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: you so upset? Why why don't he say? He tells her,

943
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: but he says, calm down, you need to relax, and

944
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: then he says, you're acting crazy right now. And then

945
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: he's also kind of like man handling her throughout this

946
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: scene because she's trying to help her brother and he

947
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: keeps pulling her off of him. And then there's the

948
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: her being like disapproving of his lifestyle a k. She's

949
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: not very tolerant of the sex work that he's doing.

950
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: To the movie's credit, he does, you know, try to explain,

951
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: like there are other facets of my person. Uh there, yeah, no, no, no,

952
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, Like, I mean this this

953
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: all feels done for me. It was done pretty self

954
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: like in a in a self aware way by the

955
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: movie of like this is a like because there are

956
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure, especially you know, ten years ago, like there,

957
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're a lot of people in the audience

958
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: who would connect with like, I don't understand sex work

959
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: or sex workers, and I'm like, passing this judgment that

960
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: is not necessary, and to see a character go from

961
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: point A to point Z on that subject may have

962
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: been helpful because it feels like the movie, at least

963
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: going in, is aware of that. And I like, I

964
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: caught this movie a lot of slack in that it

965
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: was conceived and made as a way of helping people

966
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: who do not understand sex work or respect it for

967
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: the work that it very much is and should be

968
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: respected as to recognize that, and I feel like that

969
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: is like it feels like kind of the mission of

970
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: the movie to humanize sex workers while also like making

971
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: it clear that like this is fucking work, you know. Yes.

972
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: But the thing with Brooke is that she doesn't agree

973
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: to be with him and smooch him until he's like,

974
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually not going to go to Miami after all,

975
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: and she's like, so it's not totally clear the extent

976
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: of her disapproval, like the extent to which that affects

977
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: Mike's decision to not go, but it seems like he

978
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: really wants to be with her, especially after she's like, oh,

979
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: you're such a loser because you're a thirty year old stripper,

980
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: and then he's like, oh my god, I don't want

981
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: to be a thirty year old stripper. Oh, no, strippers

982
01:05:53,800 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: are like cool. So it feels as though that affects

983
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: his decision to not go to Miami and basically not

984
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: pursue stripping anymore, because she's like, well, what are you

985
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna do then, and she's like, well, I don't know,

986
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: I'll just go eat some breakfast or something, And well,

987
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: I think that that is though that is like complicated

988
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: by the other stuff going on in Mike's life, which

989
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: is like why this movie is like, it's tricky. You

990
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know exactly. It's a combination of factors because I

991
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying of I don't think that

992
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: the trajectory of her understanding and respecting sex work gets

993
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: where it needs to be, and it feels like dated

994
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: in that aspect. And then you also see this like

995
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: it feels like this very like recession based issue of

996
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: another like there are a couple of different reasons why

997
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: Mike leaves the club, and I'm not even convinced, and

998
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: if I don't know what happens in the second Magic Mike,

999
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't even convinced that he was going to leave

1000
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: sex Work entirely. My understanding was, like, he's leaving this

1001
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: club because Matthew McConaughey is a fucking asshole who won't

1002
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: pay him what he's worth, and like there's this whole

1003
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: whatever like mirror aspect where he's looking at the kid

1004
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: from Beastly and the kid for Beastly as a younger

1005
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: version of himself. That's kind of like self destructing. And

1006
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that I think Brooke naively said,

1007
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: like this one guy is going to that I don't

1008
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: really know is going to protect my brother from all

1009
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: of this ship, all the units of G, every single

1010
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: G in the world. Like you can't just be like, oh,

1011
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: I met a hot guy, so my brother is safe forever.

1012
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of on her for assuming that that

1013
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: would be true. But there's a number of factors that

1014
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 1: gets Mike out of this club specifically, And I guess

1015
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: I didn't view it as like he was leaving sex

1016
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 1: Work forever. I viewed it as like he's leaving this

1017
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: toxic situation because Matthew McConaughey and his ridiculous fucking hat

1018
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: won't give him ten percent, and like he's ever going

1019
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: to get the equity he's been promised in the situation

1020
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: that he's in, and even like his protege is kind

1021
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: of turning his back on him, and so it's kind

1022
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: of like, fuck it. I thought it was like empowering

1023
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: that Mike left that toxic situation, but also that can

1024
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: be read as he's leaving sex work because he wants

1025
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: to be with this girl. So it's like it's a

1026
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: it's a I don't know. I feel like there's a

1027
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: lot of ways too ambiguous on something that needs to

1028
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: be pretty explicitly clear, especially because like he even says

1029
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: during one of the scenes at the end, he's like, yeah,

1030
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: you're right, I don't want to be a forty year

1031
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: old stripper in Miami, as if like being a four

1032
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: year old stripper would be pathetic for him. So I

1033
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: think that we're supposed to believe that he's like in

1034
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: the process of coming around on sex work and he's

1035
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: going to really make this ugly as furniture, and that's

1036
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: what Brooke would approve of, so and I um bravely

1037
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: did some research and found some accounts from real life

1038
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: mail strippers who did criticize the end of this movie

1039
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 1: because they interpret it as Mike giving up stripping because

1040
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: his new girlfriend didn't approve of it. And they were like,

1041
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mail strippers have families, and they do

1042
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: it well into their forties and later, and it's not

1043
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: shameful for me, or it's not embarrassing. They said that

1044
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: they do it because they love entertaining and they love

1045
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: dancing so well. They were not pleased with how this

1046
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: the end of this movie pans out, because it does

1047
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: seem to kind of come down on the side of like,

1048
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: sex work is something that you can do for a

1049
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: little while while you're young, but it's just sort of

1050
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: a stepping stone to quote unquote more serious work. And

1051
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: that kind of like gets into another thing that I

1052
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: think we need to talk about for this movie, which

1053
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: is that I feel like that issue could have been

1054
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: more clearly addressed outside of Mike's character if we knew

1055
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: the other dancers a little better, because I thought it

1056
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: was kind of bizarre where I don't know where I

1057
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: got this notion from but I sort of came in

1058
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: with the notion that we were going to get the

1059
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: entire cast story kind of kind of like in the

1060
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: full Monty right like it was. It was just like

1061
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to kind of get to

1062
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: know everybody, which the movie kind of vaguely tries to do,

1063
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: but in a very unsatisfactory way where sometimes you'll learn,

1064
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,919
Speaker 1: like you learn one or two things about every stripper

1065
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: that isn't Mike or Adam, but it's mostly in passing

1066
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: lines of dialogue. The strippers are majority white. The strippers

1067
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: who aren't white, it's repeatedly pointed out that they aren't white,

1068
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: and and it's like you don't get like, I feel

1069
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: like there is an opportunity to represent a wider spectrum

1070
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: of male strippers through the six or seven or eight

1071
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: guys that are on the poster of the movie, but

1072
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: you really only get to know two of them, and

1073
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: they fall into this very narrow like I only want

1074
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: to be a stripper for a certain amount of time,

1075
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: which is okay, but it's like there is such like

1076
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, like there's such a wide variety of experience

1077
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: in stripping an insects work in general that it's like, well,

1078
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: you need to show more if you're trying to make

1079
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: the male stripper movie, which was already done in the

1080
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: full monty So but but but I mean I I

1081
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: I was kind of frustrated with how the rest of

1082
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: the cast was like kind of neglected in the process

1083
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: of how this movie went, because you found out certain

1084
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: things about them, but they're all very vague. It's like, oh,

1085
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: this guy's a little spiritual, this guy like sewing, and

1086
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: it all feels like, oh, this is like sure, like

1087
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: that's that's fun character stuff. But like do I remember

1088
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: what their name is? Do I really know anything about them? Like, no,

1089
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: you don't. I think you only the only thing you

1090
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: learned about Ken is that his wife's breasts, his wife's

1091
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: his wife's are really cool, which is a fine fact,

1092
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: but maybe not the first and only one to know,

1093
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: Like that's correct, it's yeah. So I feel like there

1094
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: was a missed opportunity to represent a wider spectrum of

1095
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: experience in the cast of the movie that's already there

1096
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: and like played by like very popular, like well regarded.

1097
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: When I saw some of the actors that were cast

1098
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: as the other male strippers, I was like, Oh, everyone's

1099
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: gonna get a story. These are all pretty famous actors,

1100
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: and like it was just magical Michael. Yeah, if you

1101
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: if you thought you were gonna get any information about

1102
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Joe Mangeliollo, what is his name do Maginello? Oh my god,

1103
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: I know he's in things that is matt. Uh. Someone

1104
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: isn't watching procedurals, She's or soap operas fifteen years ago.

1105
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: It's true. Tito is played by Adam Rodriguez. Tarzan is

1106
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: played by Kevin Nash. Yeah, we really learned nothing about

1107
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: any of those characters. But it would have been a

1108
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: nice opportunity to for a movie that seems to want

1109
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: to characterize and humanize sex workers, especially because there's such

1110
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,480
Speaker 1: a problem with sex workers in media not being humanized.

1111
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: Uh that this would have been a nice opportunity to

1112
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: give us information about more than Magical Michael and Magical

1113
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: Michael Jr. But the movie opts not to do that. Yeah,

1114
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: which side? And it is, like, like you were saying earlier,

1115
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: centering this very I feel like more marketable view of

1116
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: stripping in general, but but male strippers and specific of like, well,

1117
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: this is temporary and I actually want to do something else.

1118
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: Like there's no character that's presented. Is like, this is

1119
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: my chosen career and I'm very happy doing it, which

1120
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: should be a perspective that is presented because it, like,

1121
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: like you're saying, like it, it is very much something

1122
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: that exists and isn't represented. And speaking of one of

1123
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: my main complaints about the movie is that there's not

1124
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: enough nudity. Anyone else agree? You have to see butt

1125
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: entities right away? Yes, however, okay, but I'm an insult.

1126
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: I feel like we see more female nudity in this

1127
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: be about male strippers, which is confusing. You basically see

1128
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,440
Speaker 1: a few bare asses of men and you see a silhouette.

1129
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, you do see big Dick Ritchie's penis in

1130
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: a penis enlarging device. What are those called? I would

1131
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: say that's pretty nude, that's pretty dude. Um, it's kind

1132
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: of like a disembodied penis. You know. This is a

1133
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: very specific complaint, but I was just I was kind

1134
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: of curious about this, and it turns out that the

1135
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: shows that you see in this movie are closer to

1136
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: male reviews than male strip shows, right. I for one,

1137
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: did not really know about this distinction until I was

1138
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: researching this for this episode, I just outed myself as

1139
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: very much knowing that distinction, but for anyone else who

1140
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: didn't know. So, Basically, male review shows or male reviews

1141
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: have the more kind of like choreographed dancing than a

1142
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 1: mail strip show. There's a lot more like costume changes

1143
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: like we see in this movie. There's also like a

1144
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: show that starts at a specific time and then ends

1145
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: ninety minutes later, much like a live episode of the

1146
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: Bechtel Cast. We're running out of time, we actually are,

1147
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: we do need to wrap up soon. But um, there's

1148
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: all these and then also the big thing is that

1149
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: the lack of right, there's a there's a noticeable lack

1150
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: of bare pieces. Okay, but that opens a whole Pandora's

1151
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: box of Like I I don't think we can like

1152
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: pin this on the movie in particular, because that is

1153
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: the rating system that is like and that's why I

1154
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: feel like the only way you can see Baar Dick

1155
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: is if you've got an HBO Max subscription when you're

1156
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: watching the Kids that eu Fouria high. Why are there

1157
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: Alblemre's plenty of places see dicks in this world, but

1158
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say in a movie aspect, I don't think

1159
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: we can like put that on Magic Mike specifically. I

1160
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: would hope that they would have showed us dick if

1161
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: they could have, but because they like you can only

1162
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: that's like a general issue with movie ratings. It's like

1163
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: you can show way more of a woman's body than

1164
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: you can. It's just like a problem that existed for

1165
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: a very long time. And so that's I feel like

1166
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: why TV has sort of taken taken the lead on

1167
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: showing dick. Um And that's my that's my s in

1168
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: this essay, I will tell you why there's so much

1169
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: more dick on it and at Euphoria High School than

1170
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: there isn't Magic Mike, because you would think and it

1171
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: should be the opposite. Uh But but yeah, I mean

1172
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: I think that it's like, even if a major movie

1173
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: wanted to show dick, there's like not a lot of

1174
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: ways to do it because of how that very antiquated

1175
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: structure is made. For sure, yes, so I withdraw my complaint,

1176
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be great to see like the dick

1177
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: cut kind of like the sorry sorry, there had to

1178
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: have been a better way. Someone's gonna pull that out

1179
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: of context, and my life's going to be fucking over.

1180
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: There's so many ways to interpret it too. It's like

1181
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:41,919
Speaker 1: we're talking about circumcision. Um yes, and that. Yeah, correct,

1182
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying. No, but like the the

1183
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: butthole cut of Cats, the dick cut of Magical, you

1184
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to release the throbbing butthole cut

1185
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: of Cats in theaters to general audiences in the same

1186
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: way that you wouldn't have been able to But but

1187
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: then there there is a lot of like gendered implications

1188
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: there because there are I mean, and we've had this

1189
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: talk on the show before, how the rating system is

1190
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: generally like you can show brutalization towards women the entire

1191
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: fucking movie and get a PG thirteen rating, but dare

1192
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: we showed just the tip and and we cannot know. Yeah,

1193
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: so it is like a big systemic movie problem. Yes, Indeed,

1194
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,799
Speaker 1: the things that I actually have complaints about are these.

1195
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: Uh so, there are some very like twenty twelve things

1196
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: that are said or done in the movie that go

1197
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: completely unchallenged by the movie. I think one of the

1198
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: most egregious ones is a few moments of like quote

1199
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 1: unquote no homo where there's a scene where Dallas is

1200
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: teaching Adam how to dance and he makes a like

1201
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: no homo comment, using a slur in. He's like, I'm

1202
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: not trying to fuck you or anything. This is just

1203
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: what I'm teaching how to dance so you can make money. UM,

1204
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: I think what's your boss? Should never have to say

1205
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: to you for anyone listening. He was like, my boss

1206
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. To me? Is that okay? No?

1207
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: Probably not right? Um. The thing is that, like, I

1208
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: believe that character of Dallas would have said something like that,

1209
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: but again, the movie nor any of the other characters

1210
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: challenges that attitude. There's another scene where Brooke finds all

1211
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: of Adam's thongs and she very abrasively is like, what

1212
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: the funk is going on? Get out here, I need

1213
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: to talk to you. He's in the bathroom. He might

1214
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: be taking a poo, but she's like, get out here

1215
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: right now. I have to talk to you about your thongs.

1216
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: And then she's like stop taking stop that ship right now.

1217
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: You better cut that log boy because I hate that.

1218
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: And now she's like, you can't do that with your ass.

1219
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: Though she's like she's like, I don't care what your

1220
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: preferences are but also get the funk out here, because

1221
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: it's gross that you I think you might be gay.

1222
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: And then he's like, no, it's just for work, and

1223
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: she's like I never followed up. Like that's the thing

1224
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: where it's like that it's frustrating because it's like, I

1225
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's like the worst thing in the world

1226
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: to present that someone in his life would feel that way.

1227
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,919
Speaker 1: But you have to come full circle on that narrative

1228
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: of like she was explicitly wrong to have made that

1229
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: judgment and bear that out. But instead it's like she

1230
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: makes the judgment, it's kind of played for laughs, and

1231
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:51,520
Speaker 1: then it's like not really referenced explicitly. Again, there's no apology,

1232
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: there's no like, there's no you know, it all becomes

1233
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: this kind of murky mess. And then at the end

1234
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: of the movie, she still does not approve of the

1235
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: work they're doing. And then Mike Michael Magic, Michael Common,

1236
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: Michael come a magical Uh quits his job basically because

1237
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: of it. And again, like I imagine that that is

1238
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: like common for like the scrutiny that male strippers and

1239
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: sex workers and sex workers of all gender's face. But

1240
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: again the movie doesn't actually really comment on it. Um

1241
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: there's a quick conversation between Mike and Adam where they're

1242
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: in the club early on they clock these two young women,

1243
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: one of them is just turned twenty one, and Mike

1244
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: is like, go talk to that girl, and Adam says,

1245
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: she doesn't look like she wants to be bothered. And

1246
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: then Mike is like, look at what she's wearing. She

1247
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: came here tonight to be bothered. Mike does it like that,

1248
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: Like there, I know that we're supposed to be like Michael,

1249
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 1: he's so magical, but like he does do some misogynist ship.

1250
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: He's bursting into your house like the cool man he's

1251
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: He's saying like, well, she's wearing a dress, she probably

1252
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: wants to be harassed. And then and then the way

1253
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: that the script plays out is like it endorses magical

1254
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: Michael's p o v of like the women. That was

1255
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: always kind of frustrating where it seemed like in some

1256
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: areas of the script, Mike's perspective was kind of challenged

1257
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: and moved forward. But in Whenever, he's like judging a

1258
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,919
Speaker 1: woman based on what he thinks he's observing from a distance.

1259
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: In the script, it always bears out that he was right,

1260
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: with the exception of Brooke, which falls into the not

1261
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,879
Speaker 1: like the other girls saying you were talking about earlier,

1262
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: where it's like with this girl who's turning, he's like,

1263
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: oh no, she wants to be harassed. She came here

1264
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: to be harassed. And then when the kid from Beastly

1265
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: goes up and it's like, like, like whatever he says

1266
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: to her, she's like wow, oh my god, Like you know,

1267
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: like in a way that it's like if someone came

1268
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 1: up to me when I was twenty one and said

1269
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: I was in Beastly, yeah, I would be like, I

1270
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. Cool. Yeah, I'm not like other girls.

1271
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see Beastly in theaters. Um. The last thing

1272
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: here is that there's an instance of body shaming where

1273
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: there's a part of the movie where Big Dick Ritchie

1274
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: me is that how we decided I was, I can't remember, so,

1275
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: but this behavior does not exemplify anything I would ever do.

1276
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: He picks up a fuller figured woman and then immediately

1277
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: his back is injured and he has to walk off stage,

1278
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: and it's like also played for laughs, and the movie

1279
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: doesn't challenge that in any way. And it just shames

1280
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: this nameless woman. So yeah, it did come out in

1281
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: is the conclusion that I would like to draw very much.

1282
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Did did you have anything else you wanted to talk about? Um?

1283
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: I think in general, I mean I think, going off

1284
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: the stuff, it just seems like there were some missed

1285
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: opportunities in this movie that maybe we're addressed in the sequel.

1286
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, Magic Mike's Last Dance. It might just

1287
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: be a really long funeral movie. I don't know, or

1288
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's a resurrection story. It starts at Magical Michael's

1289
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: funeral and then he's like whoa, and he's like, I've

1290
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: last dance. I'm available to direct that. But anyways, it

1291
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: just felt like this this movie was it. We talked

1292
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: about this all the time, but like movies of this

1293
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: era specifically, it feels like a stepping stone towards more inclusive,

1294
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: better movies, where this movie I think does show a

1295
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: lot of empathy towards its characters in a way that

1296
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: sex workers in general and and male sex workers are

1297
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: not generally shown. UM. I wish that there were more

1298
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: movies about women sex workers and marginalized sex workers. Who

1299
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: are you know, dealing with ship that is much more

1300
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: immediately dangerous than what Magical Michael is dealing with, which

1301
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 1: also is really difficult. Like there's just there's not enough

1302
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: movies about sex work in general that present sex workers

1303
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: as people, you know, and this movie I think is

1304
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: definitely a stepping stone towards that and also doesn't get

1305
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: into the realm of tragedy porn where I feel like

1306
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: that's another risk that you run um where it's like

1307
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: it is still a fun movie. It's all I mean,

1308
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: there's such a horny legacy with this horn what is

1309
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: that we should enter that into our vocabulary horny legacy, tone, poem,

1310
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: what else? This movie has a lot of horny death,

1311
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: horny depths, horny and but then a horny depth can

1312
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: turn into a horny legacy over time. True, it feels

1313
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: like a step in the right direction, but ultimately, like

1314
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, like it does calm down on

1315
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: this bizarrely conservative end of like, well, only by you know,

1316
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: giving up sex work was he able to find true

1317
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: happiness And and also in that way, even like the

1318
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: way that we haven't really talked about how Adam's storyline ends,

1319
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: but the storyline with Adam ends where he's completely had

1320
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: his ass saved by Magical Michael, who's given up his

1321
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: life savings to save his ass, and then responds by

1322
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: being like thanks Mike, that was really cool, and then

1323
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: immediately taking Mike's job and then being like, well, I

1324
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: guess I'm Mike now. Like again, it's like a Santa

1325
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Claus situation, almost like he killed Magic Mike and now

1326
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: he's Magic Mike. He right, He like took all of

1327
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: Magic Mike's money and now he's Magic Mike. I feel

1328
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: like that way maybe a little undersavened by the story,

1329
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: but like even even that, I've like the way that

1330
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 1: his arc ends ends up kind of depicting his profession

1331
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: in a bad light of like by him staying in

1332
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: stripping in sex work that makes him a bad person,

1333
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: where it's like, no, what makes him a shitty person

1334
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: is that he took all of Magic Mike's money and

1335
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: then Santa claused him, Like that's the bad thing. But

1336
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how much this movie is interested in

1337
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: the kind of like making that separation right. I will

1338
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: say though, that I did appreciate that this movie largely

1339
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: centered a male friendship, even though every movie ever made

1340
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: is about men, so few of them actually like explore

1341
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: in an interesting way. Yes, Jamie, I'm just saying it

1342
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: does kind of fall into the fathers and sons troup

1343
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: where there's so many father's son but but but in

1344
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 1: this movie it does work there. Yeah, I mean we

1345
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: have sort of like a mentor daddy figure. There's so

1346
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: many daddies in this movie. Come on and like Matthew

1347
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: McConaughey is Channing Tatum's daddy. But he's a grand bad

1348
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: dad Daddy. He's a bad daddy. We don't like him.

1349
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: This daddy has too much money. We gotta get this

1350
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: daddy out of here. And then Channing Tatum good daddy

1351
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: kid from beastly. We don't not not a daddy yet,

1352
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: aspiring daddy. He's he's not yet a daddy still a son.

1353
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: Got a fucking human centipede of daddy's Some good, some bad, uh.

1354
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: For some reason in this movie it worked for me. Generally,

1355
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm like enough with the daddies, But in this movie

1356
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: there is a the spectrum of daddy's is on display.

1357
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,839
Speaker 1: There's good daddies, there's bad daddies, there's morally ambiguous daddies.

1358
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: The point is I appreciate that this movie explored male

1359
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: friendship in a way that was fairly nuanced and interesting.

1360
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, especially because by the end it's like, are

1361
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: they even going to be friends anymore? I mean, knows

1362
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: him a bunch of money, but it's gonna be a

1363
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: weird Thanksgiving because he's dating his sister. But yes, yeah, anyway,

1364
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I think that's all I had. Well, then let's get

1365
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: into the reason that people think they listened to this

1366
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: show sometimes, which is does it pass the bactest? That

1367
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: is again, we've talked about this so many times, but

1368
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: it's my favorite way to find out that someone is

1369
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: lying about listening to the show, where they're like, yeah,

1370
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: I love finding out if it passed the bacon from

1371
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: like do you think? We just go through the script

1372
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: line by line and be like, m does that pass?

1373
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: I guess not not that one. That would be fun, though,

1374
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: turn the page. Let's see if this one does this

1375
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: movie past test. I don't think so, because Joanna and

1376
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Brooke do talk to each other about swimsuits and tattoos.

1377
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: But but magical Michael is right there and like interjecting, yeah,

1378
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I I saw that as well, and I and and

1379
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: the whole sub text of that conversation is Joanna is

1380
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: trying to get the vibe of like, is she going

1381
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: to fuck me and Magical Michael because they're always looking

1382
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: for a third which I did appreciate that was presented

1383
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: very matter of factually the movie, where like Joanna and

1384
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: Mike have been hooking up for a while, they're always

1385
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: looking for a third and there, and that's just like

1386
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: who they are. They're very different people. They have the

1387
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: same interest and that's what they want. Magical Michael wants.

1388
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: He wants to be a wife guy. That's his business whatever.

1389
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: But I did like that Joanna was presented as like

1390
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: a fully fleshed out character who just like, this is

1391
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: something she wants to do. But the subtext of that

1392
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: whole conversation is that she's like Army and Mike gonna

1393
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: fuck this girl, and so yeah, I don't think that

1394
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: is Also a third that they could have brought in

1395
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: is her fiance that she who seems to very much

1396
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: know what's I was so confused about the fiance scene

1397
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: because the fiance was sort of like should I get

1398
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: out of here? I'm like, this guy is so fucking

1399
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: chip right, what is it? He was like, I'm gonna

1400
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: go look at he's he literally just like I'm gonna

1401
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: go look in the mirror. So it almost implies that

1402
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: they are in an open relationship, which makes it weird

1403
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: that Joanna wouldn't have told Mike that. And I wish

1404
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: we kind of got a landing place there because I

1405
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: didn't dislike the Joanna character. I didn't feel like she

1406
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: was made out to be a villain, except for the

1407
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: fact that her storyline ended so abruptly that you feel

1408
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: like you didn't get closure with her because it was

1409
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: clear that like she was conflicted on how she felt

1410
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: about Mike. It seems like she and Mike wanted different things.

1411
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it was kind of unique and that

1412
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 1: you usually see, like in big movies, that the woman

1413
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: in a heterosexual relationship really wants something more and that

1414
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: the man doesn't. It was clear in this situation that

1415
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Mike wanted more than Joanna was willing to give. But

1416
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: then it was like it just sort of stopped when

1417
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: it was like this random hot guy was like, I

1418
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: better get out of here, and then then that was

1419
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: just kind of that was just kind of the end

1420
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: of the story for him. Um, but I liked her

1421
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: story in general. I like to think that there was

1422
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: a final scene that got cut or something, because it

1423
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: just felt kind of abrupt. Same. Anyways, it doesn't pass

1424
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: the Bactle test. Sorry, but how about that nipple scale

1425
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: of oursot it zero to five nipples based on an

1426
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: examination of the movie through an intersectional feminist lens M.

1427
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: This movie made me horny. Five nipples and that's our show.

1428
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for corret I I would say, like, I don't know.

1429
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: I guess two and a half. I do appreciate that

1430
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: this movie attempts to humanize sex work, even though it

1431
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: is about men boo and uh, predominantly white men. But

1432
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: I think that there's enough. I don't know, it's it's

1433
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: just one of those like split down the middle things

1434
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: where it is doing some cool, subversive, interesting things and

1435
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 1: is also adhering to some other problematic tropes of the time.

1436
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Two and a half nipples. I'll give one two Brooke,

1437
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: I'll give one. No, actually no, I don't take it

1438
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: back hate women. I don't like that she was all like,

1439
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: sex work is gross, uh and you can't kiss me

1440
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: until you quit. I'm gonna give one to the pig

1441
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: who eats vomit. I'm going to give the other nipple

1442
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: to the vomit. No, I don't know, two and a

1443
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: half nipples to the pig the end I'll do I'll

1444
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 1: do three. I think I like this movie a lot.

1445
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: It's certainly made me. I didn't even know if it

1446
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe horny. There's something about like there's I this is

1447
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: a personal thing, but like there's a threshold when when

1448
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: someone gets too hot it becomes science to me, where

1449
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is really like I put on

1450
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: a fucking monocle. I'm like interesting, you know, like at

1451
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: some point when a person gets to like traditionally hot,

1452
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: it becomes scary to me. But that's said I this

1453
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: movie is. It's a really horny movie. I like how

1454
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: it does. I mean, it's like, and we've talked about

1455
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: this a little bit, but it's like, you know, shows

1456
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: really macho, masculine stuff, but then it also shows the

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Speaker 1: other side of it, and it shows like the challenges

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Speaker 1: that are presented by like having to constantly perform this,

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Speaker 1: and it is I think like it was ahead of

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Speaker 1: its time at least for showing sex work in an

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Speaker 1: empathetic way, even though it is certainly not perfect based

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Speaker 1: on what we've discussed, and and it also you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of you know, I don't want to use

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Speaker 1: the phrase interrogates masculinity because it makes me feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm a fucking loser. But whatever, Jamie, we're podcasters, were

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go walk into traffic. Um, well, anyways,

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Speaker 1: it interrogates my I'll give it three nipples. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's a good movie. Yeah, it's it's not. Uh. My

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Speaker 1: main issues with it are the way that it ends

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Speaker 1: in a needlessly ambiguous way, given that it seemed like

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Speaker 1: it was building towards a more decisive conclusion. Um. And

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Speaker 1: then it's sort of like at the end, I didn't

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Speaker 1: like how the women in the movie were. It was like,

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Speaker 1: there's only one female character in the entire movie, and

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Speaker 1: she doesn't really have anyone to talk to, when it

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Speaker 1: was like it would have been interesting to give her

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Speaker 1: more people to talk to, and just more women in

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Speaker 1: general that we're not very background character generalized. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: a really white movie. And and like, especially because they

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Speaker 1: specifically grounded in Tampa, that also makes no fucking sense. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like it's Steven Soderberg, you know, that's

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01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,919
Speaker 1: a Steven Soderberg problem, I think. Anyways, Uh, three nipples.

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Speaker 1: I'll give one to Channing Tatum doing the sexy worm.

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01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll give one to the chair that everyone's coming all

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Speaker 1: over with his zabraprint on it. And I'll give my

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Speaker 1: final nipple to the big dick. Okay, the one that

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01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: they keep saying swim low that one. Nice. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: that's our show. Thank you coming. Uh we don't normally

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Speaker 1: we would have time for questions, but guess what we don't.

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01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 1: We talked about too long, but feel free to will

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Speaker 1: be out in the lobby in a few minutes. Feel

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Speaker 1: free to come and say hi. Otherwise, Thank you so

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01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: much for coming, coming yourself. That was the episode. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening. We also want to give

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Speaker 1: a big thanks to the Illusion Theater in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: where we did the show special thanks to Kate and

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Speaker 1: Mel and Paul at the Allusion three of the greats,

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Speaker 1: and thank you to everyone who came out. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. You've made us feel so welcome and loved,

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Speaker 1: and we we love our l a crew and we

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Speaker 1: hope to see the rest of you soon. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you shout out to the allusion. If you're ever in

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Speaker 1: l A and want to see a great comedy show,

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01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: they're happening there almost every damn day time. Oh why

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01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: don't you get over there? Um and in regular orders

1506
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: of of business. You can find us on the internet

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Speaker 1: on you know where we normally live on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Bechtel Cast. We also have a Patreon, a

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Speaker 1: gay Matreon where you can get to additional episodes from

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Speaker 1: just Caitlin and myself every single month with a fun theme.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we are currently observing Titanic Month, but we're also

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Speaker 1: doing Romeo plus Juliet, so it's actually kind of a

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01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: uh DiCaprio youth theater month. I keep forgetting what it's

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Speaker 1: actually called. It's Leonardo Decape Real Low or Decape really

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Speaker 1: Low and Stitch not a movie or doing this month,

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Speaker 1: but it's five bucks a month and you get to

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Speaker 1: bonus episodes a month with over a hundred episodes in

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Speaker 1: that feed, so what a bar? Get over there, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: of it f y I and that can be found

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Speaker 1: at t public dot com, slash the Bectel Cast and um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, rate us on the platforms, the podcast platforms,

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Speaker 1: Give us a like, give us a review, give us

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Speaker 1: a follow, all the other great stuff. Absolutely um and

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Speaker 1: until next time. We'll see you at the same time,

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Speaker 1: same place next week. We love you, thank you for listening,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon. Bye bye, Maye