WEBVTT - Marvel Rivals and Creature Commandos

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Gnaw, come out talking today.

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<v Speaker 2>You will going to be talking about the first two

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<v Speaker 2>episodes Jacob Creature.

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<v Speaker 3>Cabago, So watch that first before you listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Governor. Hello, It is Jesus Gon's episode. And I'm Rosie

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<v Speaker 2>Knight from across the Pond, Rosie Night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Johnson, good Old Blighty. Back again.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to extra revision of the podcast movie

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<v Speaker 1>Dive Deep. Is your favorite shows, movies and comics and

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture of coming you from iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>We're bringing you three weekly episodes every Tuesday Thursday, with

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<v Speaker 2>an extra episode on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>How Lucky you are? And in this episode, we're bringing

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<v Speaker 3>you up Big bad b movie banger of a double

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<v Speaker 3>feature with Creature Commandos episodes one and two. What do

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<v Speaker 3>we think about it? Want to hear the recap, want

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<v Speaker 3>to know where the Creature Commandos come from in the comics.

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<v Speaker 3>We got you covered. But first, I previously on Marvel

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<v Speaker 3>Rivals is here out and me and Jason are doing

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but playing it. It's dangerous. It's dangerously, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna talk about that in the airlock. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna break down those first two episodes Creature Commandos in

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<v Speaker 3>the comics corner, we're gonna do a comics history of

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<v Speaker 3>the Creature Commandos and how we think it might shape

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<v Speaker 3>the James Gunnerverse version going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But first previously on Okay Marvel Rivals, we are playing

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<v Speaker 2>it free to play on your console of choice as

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<v Speaker 2>well as PC, except for the switch.

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<v Speaker 3>It will never be on the switch. That's what the

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<v Speaker 3>guys said now never does not have.

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<v Speaker 2>The juice to get on the switch. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>free to play. You're gonna pay for skins, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a battle pass, but just competition. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about it. You can get in and not pay anything

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<v Speaker 2>and just play.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can play as like thirty three different characters,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a massive roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie Harry feeling because I gotta say, I'm feeling great level.

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<v Speaker 3>It's feeling so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I got into camp. I'm five and one in camp

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<v Speaker 2>because I've got that Overwatch one and two resume and

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<v Speaker 2>boozling people right now. It feels great, Rosie, who are

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<v Speaker 2>you playing as?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm sticking I've currently been sticking with the

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<v Speaker 3>good old Tank group because I seem to have the

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<v Speaker 3>most wonderful lock that he is for me a fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>button bashing character, which when I am in a new game,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a prolific Buttom basher, I can win against

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much anyone in more combat with absolutely zero combos,

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<v Speaker 3>just because I'm a skilled button basher. That's the same

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<v Speaker 3>in a In Dragon Ball Fighters with a Z, I

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<v Speaker 3>found myself very quickly rising in the rank of that game.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, Groot has been a very good button bashed up.

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<v Speaker 3>I also like punish her a lot. So basically big

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<v Speaker 3>characters where I can shoot people a lot, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>lots of uh, you know, ammo or kind of protection

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<v Speaker 3>against the fact that I don't even know what PvP means.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's so good. Yeah, wow, that makes so

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<v Speaker 3>much sense. But yeah, I'm loving it. I didn't expect

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<v Speaker 3>it to hook me as much as it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Really fun, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I really love I love the world like that. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>these kind of cosmic spaces, the Galactic Empire of Wakanda

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<v Speaker 3>planets from Guardians of the Galaxy, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes you feel immediately immersed And I have to say,

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<v Speaker 3>for a free to play game, it looks fucking fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's your favorite player?

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna playing Guardian's Heavy, Okay, so what makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense things? I've been playing Groot a lot when I've

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<v Speaker 2>been tanking, particularly if any of my support our Guardians members,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you see Rocket as a support player and

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking tank and you're you're missing a tank slot,

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<v Speaker 2>go Groot. I had a great conquest mode with you know, Groot,

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<v Speaker 2>playing as Groot with Rocket as my support. We also

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<v Speaker 2>had Mantis on heels and Peter Quill as the damage player,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had all the Guardians going and you just

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<v Speaker 2>unlock all these really great team up abilities cool downs

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<v Speaker 2>or quicker. Rocket was on my shoulders yea the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time as I was holding point as Groot. You can

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<v Speaker 2>throw up these walls of like vines that slow down

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<v Speaker 2>other players and eventually, if you're close enough to them,

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<v Speaker 2>they grow tentacles and attack. The cool down is I

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<v Speaker 2>never notice it. I always have a wall if you

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<v Speaker 2>need to hold space, like you're gonna play defensively Groot

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<v Speaker 2>with Rocket on his shoulder, fucking unkillable.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm saying, like I literally am not skilled

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<v Speaker 3>at this game. And then and am learning as I go,

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<v Speaker 3>but every game I play with group, I survive and

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<v Speaker 3>my team wins. So I feel like I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get good as Squirrel Girl because that's my favorite squirrel character, Desiety.

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<v Speaker 3>She's so cool. I love seeing Jeff the land Shark.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't played with him yet, but he's seeking swim

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<v Speaker 3>kind of up anything, so you see him swimming up

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<v Speaker 3>walls eating people. That's very fantastic. I didn't realize how many,

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<v Speaker 3>as somebody who did grow up on like Mortal Kombat

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<v Speaker 3>and Who for me, that's still my favorite fighting game.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize how many sort of fatality adjacent moments

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<v Speaker 3>there would be. Like obviously it's a Marvel game, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's not actually killing people, but there are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>these really fun moves, and when you do alts and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you really get to see these characters come to life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also just love the way that you move

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<v Speaker 3>around the area, especially Convoy has been like my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>mode so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Convoy as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really fun. It's a really great way to get

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<v Speaker 3>to see it and to explore the world's and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get to see how your team is gonna play

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<v Speaker 3>because these people are so fast, it's such a chaotic thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but once you get into the flow of it, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it's doable. I mean, I think it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of incredible that this is a free to play game.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they said they've had ten million players in

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<v Speaker 3>the first three days.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell because you get into a game immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>There's every time, there's no waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>You hit enter game and it's just like boom, you

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<v Speaker 2>are match made. The Discord was.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about how Overwatch has been really rough the last

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<v Speaker 3>few years because it hasn't been like that and you'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait a long time for matchups. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>cool to see people finding this game immediately. Also super produced.

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<v Speaker 3>Arab makes a great point, which is like relatively smooth

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<v Speaker 3>launch for such a massive free to play game like

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<v Speaker 3>it has. We've had a lot of messed up games

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<v Speaker 3>recently and bad launches and games getting taken down after

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<v Speaker 3>just a few days because there aren't enough players. This

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<v Speaker 3>has been a relatively smooth launch, with more stuff going

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<v Speaker 3>viral about the actual content of the game, playing the game,

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<v Speaker 3>hilarious jokes about which characters you play as, rather than

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<v Speaker 3>like weird glitch memes and stuff, which is often what

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<v Speaker 3>we get in twenty twenty four with gaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been quite good. I will say there are

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<v Speaker 2>certain quality of life tweaks that I feel like are

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<v Speaker 2>coming that are not getting there yet. For instance, right now,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no roll locks, so you could go in

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen players sixty's great six supports. Eventually, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they will either put in something where they'll suggest to you, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we need this role, or there'll be two to two

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<v Speaker 2>and two so you can ye two two.

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<v Speaker 3>Which just like there should be a simple way to

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<v Speaker 3>make it so that that's automatic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what they want to do is just get

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<v Speaker 2>people playing, because that is coming from Overwatch. That is

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<v Speaker 2>part of what will slow the game down because people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, well, I only play Tank or I only

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<v Speaker 2>play I.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, this is a game where people want to play

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<v Speaker 3>as their favorite character. Like, there's gonna be people involved

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<v Speaker 3>in this that have never played these games and don't

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<v Speaker 3>care about the role and they just want to play

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<v Speaker 3>as Doctor Strange or they just want to play as

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<v Speaker 3>Black Widow. You know. So I think that's gonna kind

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<v Speaker 3>of an interesting point. But yeah, I think that would

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<v Speaker 3>be really cool and would probably make it a lot

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<v Speaker 3>less challenging. If you find yourself in a team with,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, like six tanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let me run through the characters that I

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Okay, tell me. I love Groot as a tank.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Cap as a tank. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be like a mobile tank who runs around, He's

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<v Speaker 2>got a sprint feature which is really great. I really

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<v Speaker 2>like Doctor Strange as a tank. I really like I

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<v Speaker 2>play mostly tank and support. I like uh Mantis as

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<v Speaker 2>support because you can boost. Not only can you heal,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can boost your front line guys attack damage strength.

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<v Speaker 2>So a bunch of times if I'm playing with Iron Fist,

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<v Speaker 2>who seems like the kind of go to character for

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<v Speaker 2>getting into the back line and just beating. Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you see an iron Fist running at you and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a back line support character, get out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out because she is just gonna be like sixty

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<v Speaker 3>around you and your redone signs that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, uh, I love playing as Mantos because you

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<v Speaker 2>can boost whoever your frontline character is that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go in there attack and you can boost their damage strength.

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<v Speaker 2>And also if you've got cap or or iron Fist

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<v Speaker 2>for one of these marauding characters who likes to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the back line very quickly. She has a like

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<v Speaker 2>a smoke bomb that stuns that puts people to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>for like two seconds. So you're getting attacked all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you've got somebody like right there in your face.

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<v Speaker 2>You just boom smoke bomb them. They go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>You get out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Great feature, And when you pair it with any of

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<v Speaker 2>the other guard you get some really interesting team up

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<v Speaker 2>features like if Warlock is your other support, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>playing a lot of Warlock. If Adam Warlock is your

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<v Speaker 2>other support, your cooldowns are faster. You can resurrect yourself

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<v Speaker 2>like Adam Warlock's power. You go into a cocoon, you

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<v Speaker 2>just come back. Adam Warlock is great, very powerful healer.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He can resurrect the entire team if you time the

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<v Speaker 2>alt right, like he opens up portal I, everybody who's

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<v Speaker 2>dead comes back out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait wait, I wanted to ask you what's your

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<v Speaker 3>favorite alt move so far, Like, what's the moment why

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<v Speaker 3>you've kind of got that I've seen that you that

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen or played whichever one. I mean the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of times that Wanda has completely evaporated me and my

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<v Speaker 3>entire team with what with her like black magic alt

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<v Speaker 3>it is cannot be counted and it is crazy, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you hear her, you hear her going to that,

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<v Speaker 3>look for her and run because you will die immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it is an.

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<v Speaker 2>Instant kill for everybody who gets hit by her black

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<v Speaker 2>magic bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>So cool if in the in the old universe where

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<v Speaker 3>I could become a professional Marvel Rivals player, Wonder is

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<v Speaker 3>the coolest character to me. She's the one I would

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<v Speaker 3>want to be really good at. Okay, So there's rumors

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<v Speaker 3>about new characters like Fantastic Four and X Men, which

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense, especially with the movies coming up. But who

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<v Speaker 3>would your dream character be to add to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Charles, Charles and his little wheelchair floating around a

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<v Speaker 1>little wheelchair, like just like mind zapping people and like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like killing people with his mind like classical style.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs like some kind of ability where you can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell who all of a sudden, everybody looks like a

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<v Speaker 2>oo foe, Like you can't tell who's on your team

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<v Speaker 2>and who's colors.

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<v Speaker 3>Go away, and you're just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I would like to see her? I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to see on the oh beyond her would be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doom would be Doom is the antagonist of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible to see Doom. I'd like to see some more

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<v Speaker 2>cool villains. You know, there's a lot of cut heroes,

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<v Speaker 2>but some like Deep. I would like to see Kingpin

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<v Speaker 2>and there is like a brawl Tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Would okay, So Kingpin was definitely on my list. I

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<v Speaker 3>also am very excited if they really do bring the

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic Four because I think Sue is just such an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting character in that game, as like the Aultmate Shield

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to see. I love that they have

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<v Speaker 3>Squirrel Girl and that they've made her just as like

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<v Speaker 3>powerful and badass as she's very powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Her alt is really it's devastating.

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<v Speaker 3>What about like I would love to see, like what

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<v Speaker 3>if they go in like the power Pack and you

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<v Speaker 3>always play as like them and it's like out.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be really fun because this Hulk, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to grab one of these little power Pack kids

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<v Speaker 2>by the anchor bash.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Hulk Smash power Back.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I've seen So there's uh, they're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some leaks now about characters that will arrive. Read

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<v Speaker 2>Richards is one of them. A little too Zaddy read Richards.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's The character design that I've seen is like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is Reid this good looking? He will to realize.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's got gray hair. They're like, he's sexy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know is can they get Reid's powers

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<v Speaker 3>right in this game, because that is I think one

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<v Speaker 3>of the biggest challenges, and if they do, then we

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<v Speaker 3>can feel very hopeful about the Fantastic Four movie, more

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<v Speaker 3>hopeful than we already feel. Another leak that I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>excited about. One of my all time favorite Marvel characters

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<v Speaker 3>who I think would be fantastic in this is Emma Frost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes there are okay see her.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been teasing her. What role do you think she

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<v Speaker 3>would have?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could see her as a tank I

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<v Speaker 2>think so because she goes diamond forman.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm gonna say. Damn it should take Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I also could there's too many what is the

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<v Speaker 2>name I forget for a duelist? Right is the damage character?

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<v Speaker 2>There's like sixty five percent of the characters are are duelists,

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<v Speaker 2>so you need tank and support. I could see her

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<v Speaker 2>either as a support character who links minds and links healing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Warlock has a thing where he does a

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<v Speaker 2>life bond and when he bonds the team together for

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<v Speaker 2>a period of time, any damage that one character takes

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<v Speaker 2>it's spread across the team, so it kind of dampens

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of damage a team can do and it

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<v Speaker 2>spreads healing throughout the team. I could see Emma doing

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<v Speaker 2>a thing like that where it's like mind link type.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone turns a bit diamond dish, Yeah, bit shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Geene Gray is another. Oh that would be so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I can Also I love that they've

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<v Speaker 3>been told me about like Angela, and I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>As Angela would be nut.

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<v Speaker 3>That's also insane because she was like Original and Spawn

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<v Speaker 3>and ended up being in Marvel due to a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>between Neil Gaiman and Tom McFarlane, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>I would I love those kind of weird comic book myths.

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<v Speaker 3>And also she has incredibly badass like hell powers, so

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely would love to see that. I just think

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<v Speaker 3>this is such a fun game, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's for me as someone who has many

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<v Speaker 3>nieces and nephews and has been dragged into many Fortnite

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<v Speaker 3>matches in which I have died immediately after being hidden

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<v Speaker 3>in a house that they built. I found Fortnite, even

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<v Speaker 3>though I really wanted to play as like Godzilla wearing

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan's and I wanted to play as you know, Jason

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<v Speaker 3>Bohes or whatever, like, I never found it to be

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<v Speaker 3>something I could understand how to play. But just in

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend since this game you know, was released, I

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<v Speaker 3>have actually found it very playable, very accessible, really fun,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is an incentive as somebody who loves these

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<v Speaker 3>characters to play the game. So that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you're a Marvel comics fan, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel movies fan, there are so many little things, little voice,

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<v Speaker 2>little one off voice lines, like when you're waiting in

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<v Speaker 2>the lobby to go into the combat zone, all the

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<v Speaker 2>players are kind of cued up in this waiting room

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll hear little snippets of conversation between a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of characters, and it's perfect. I don't want to spoil

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<v Speaker 2>any of the lines because the lines are perfect. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the olt lines that they say, the team up

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<v Speaker 2>lines are wonderful, and some of the team up moves

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<v Speaker 2>are just really really fun, like a Wolverine and the

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk can do a fastball special where the Hulk just

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<v Speaker 2>throws Wolverine like at Iron Man. It is crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just fantastic fun, fantastic good.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I don't patch it too soon because it's

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<v Speaker 2>just everything that this happened. It feels like everybody, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like a lot of the characters are like overpowered,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of like it. I keep this for

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<v Speaker 2>a little while for people like.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, like, and I do think there is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of potential hair I've seen in the discord our discord

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<v Speaker 3>users are loving it, and I definitely can't wait to

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<v Speaker 3>squad up with the X ray Vision team. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's also some fun potential hair to try and

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<v Speaker 3>do some kind of like streaming with our discord or

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<v Speaker 3>squatting up because it's just like it's so much fun,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't imagine how much more fun it will

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<v Speaker 3>be when you're actually playing with people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's really fun. I mean, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>my highlight was a you know, a capture of the

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<v Speaker 2>point I forget, Like I think it's called conquest the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's capture like three points and it was two healers,

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<v Speaker 2>uh three duellists and one tank per team, and our

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<v Speaker 2>tank was was Venom and their tank was four and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like and the healers on both teams were

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<v Speaker 2>like really effective. So't like in this middle I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was like the Clert It was like the Symbia

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<v Speaker 2>map sequence. And so we're just like fighting in this

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<v Speaker 2>like round middle area and the two tanks Thor and

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<v Speaker 2>Venom are just like toe to toe for what feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a minute at a time, just agea wow, you

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<v Speaker 2>like lightning. Everybody's just healing them, shooting at them, and

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<v Speaker 2>just watching these two guys just go ape like beating

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<v Speaker 2>the shit out of each other, nobody dying, like it

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<v Speaker 2>would really take a lot to like bring either one

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<v Speaker 2>of them down, and it was just like it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it lasts like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like really wow, that's really like it feels like you're

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<v Speaker 3>in one of those insane battles where in ten years

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<v Speaker 3>people are gonna read the comic and be like why

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<v Speaker 3>was that and fighting Thor like what was that about?

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<v Speaker 3>And you're like, I'm here in the moment, why are

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<v Speaker 3>they doing? I don't know, but I love it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's great if you haven't played it yet, definitely check

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<v Speaker 3>it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see you out there. Up next, Creature Commandos. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Creature Commandos Episode one. We open with the news report

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<v Speaker 2>there's a shocking and dangerous alliance between a ragtag extremist

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<v Speaker 2>militia group named the Sons of Themyscarrett. Really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>funny name.

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<v Speaker 3>To David, I just feel like, very interesting, yes, that

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<v Speaker 3>they are going this way. It tells us a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a controversial figure in Wonder Woman history. Brian Azarello,

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<v Speaker 3>writer of Wonder Woman Volume four, he introduced this group

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<v Speaker 3>that is essentially the like a male abandoned children of

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<v Speaker 3>basically like the kids of Demisgerans who in this canon.

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<v Speaker 3>In his head he imagines that they were abandoned at

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<v Speaker 3>birth because it's women only. But this is also the

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<v Speaker 3>man who introduced the Wonder Woman as a child of

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<v Speaker 3>of rape. So it's a very controversial thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if we're going to end up on that route,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did think it was an interesting hint where

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<v Speaker 3>we were going with the show. Very dark, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm more interested to see if there's a way

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like a almost kind of more of like

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<v Speaker 3>an MRA type thing. But yeah, as soon as I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had that, I was like, oh, I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I feels like where they're going.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like where it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the Sons of Themiscare have teamed up with

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<v Speaker 2>super villain s or C and they are currently threatening

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<v Speaker 2>the US ally of Pacola Stan and something's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be done about it. But of course this is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mission that you don't send the just The

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<v Speaker 2>Justice League doesn't do shit like this. Superman doesn't do

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this, not done in this universe anyway. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>So you kind of need a black ops group and

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<v Speaker 2>that means Amanda Waller. That means bell Rea to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Bell Reef.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, who else do you go to? If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to help, you need someone who is expendable, go

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<v Speaker 3>to amandal Wala, the most evil person in the DC

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<v Speaker 3>And in case you didn't know, this is still our

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<v Speaker 3>real Amanda Walla voiced by Viola Davis, multiple award winning

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 3>thespian and she here. She is basically as the first

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<v Speaker 3>crossover talent that we are getting here from James Gunn's

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<v Speaker 3>previous work to the DCU, of which this is the

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<v Speaker 3>official first entry. So that's very exciting, but also Amanda

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<v Speaker 3>Walla sort your life out because you are very bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe Amanda Walla is there. She's meeting with

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy Rick Flag, Dad Flag, Rick Flagg Senior.

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<v Speaker 3>Who Oh, he's sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a little too sexy for me, A little

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<v Speaker 2>too sexy and non grizzled. I like a grizzled Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Flag Senior.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a grizzled I need I need more grizzle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's no, he looks kind of like Green Arrow anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Wells he's voiced by Frank Grilla, who's very grizzled. You'll

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<v Speaker 3>get more grizzled friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy Flag is going to lead a new team that

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<v Speaker 2>Waller is going to provide, of course, the personnel for.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately, after the debacle and Cordo Maltese, as seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the second Suicide Side Squad movie, we can't use

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<v Speaker 2>human superpowered agents anymore. That's off the table because they've

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<v Speaker 2>decided after that death toll, we can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're uncontrollable. And also they die and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they saved Quoto Maltese. They didn't listen to Walla.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not a great time, we don't love the

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<v Speaker 3>Suicide Squad project, I will say, very cool way to

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<v Speaker 3>show how directly James Gunn sees these things connecting. Also

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because those projects are not necessarily or haven't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>been talked about as being part of the DCU that

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<v Speaker 3>specific project, but obviously we can see here that there

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<v Speaker 3>is a direct connection, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Yeah. I wonder how much like obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>think live action to animated, to take those storylines and

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<v Speaker 2>then connect them is rather easy. I do wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>much we're going to see animated impact live action. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>going forward in the gun verse.

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<v Speaker 3>Something I think is cool is I do think that

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<v Speaker 3>James gun is trying to make a statement with this

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<v Speaker 3>being the first DCU project, especially because I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Flagg Senior will be in peace Maker season two

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<v Speaker 3>at played by Frank Rio. So I think that's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cool if they can do that, because I think for

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<v Speaker 3>the average viewer of HBO Max dc projects, that will

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<v Speaker 3>be a very quick way of saying, hey, both these

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<v Speaker 3>things matter equally, and you better be watching the animated

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<v Speaker 3>stuff if you can about what's going to be happening

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<v Speaker 3>in peace Maker or Superman or any of the other

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<v Speaker 3>projects we.

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<v Speaker 2>Get so we can't use humans anymore. That leaves the monsters,

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>of which Amandoler has several. We are introduced to the Bride,

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<v Speaker 2>a dead woman of unknown origin, the radioactive doctor Phosphorus

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<v Speaker 2>Weasel who we met in Suicide Squad, to the loan

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>survivor in air quotes of the loan survivor in air

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>quotes of the of the debacle at Cordo Maltese Giun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, uh g I robot and advanced World War two.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a terminator I who just loves to kill Nazis,

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<v Speaker 2>wants to do it all day, all night, and wants

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. And Nina a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>very sad amphibian scientist. The team boards a helicopter on

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<v Speaker 2>route to Kolistan. The Bride has apparently been there before.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to find more about that the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the episode. Uh. They land go to the Princess's palace

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 2>in a military convoy. Weasel urinates in the humvey.

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 3>You really get a sense that like a sense this

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 3>is the edge Lord, like James Gun It's it's DC's invincible.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 3>I think that came across as a trailer and I

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 3>think it comes across very much in the first episode.

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>This is classic gun stuff exactly. I mean that he

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>loves the weirdos. He loves weirdos finding family, and he

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 2>is leaning into it big time here.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 3>He's also a super deep cut DC lover, and I

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 3>was saying with Marvel, I mean nobody really like outside

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>of comic book shops. Was a huge Guardians of the

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<v Speaker 3>Galaxy fan before those MCU movies, So I think this

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 3>is a great example of what he does well. But also,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 3>like your Miley, may vary depending on how much gore

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 3>and pissing and that kind of stuff that you enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>in these spaces, but if you're an invincible fan, I

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 3>think you're probably going to find your new favorite show.

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>In this one, they go to the palace and guess what, folks,

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the princesses gorgeous, beautiful woman. Flag Senior is struck by this,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>but he maintains for the moment his professional, you know character.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>There's some protocol issues and Alexi, the Princess's head of guards,

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>pretends like he's going to have to execute Flag and

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>he's like, Oh, you got scared. You thought I was

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 2>going to kill you. You peuse your pants and then

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Flag gets riched the monsters and the palace guards. There

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>are several references here to eighties pop culture from Alexi,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and we kind of get the feeling that Alexi has

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<v Speaker 2>not watched a television show or a movie that was

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>released like after eighty eight or eighty nine.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and also the Easterrike Hunt as they going to

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<v Speaker 3>have a fun with this one. Yes, thanks to Alexi's

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 3>lack of current pop culture knowledge.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>They have a feast. The commandos are eating really well

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>because they have They've been eating Amanda Waller Bellery prison

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>food for who knows how long. You know. Some of

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>them are essentially immortal, so they might have been there

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>for quite a while. The ancient Queen of Pacola Stan

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>sits at the head of the table. She does not

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<v Speaker 2>seem as if she's doing.

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Great, not doing well, not doing well.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Nina, while they're sitting there, notices that Gi Robot doesn't

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>have anything each, so she orders some diesel gas for him.

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Later on afterwards, after some digestifs, the Princess is playing

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>fetch with Weasel. Gi Robot and Nina get to know

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 2>each other and there seems to be I gotta say,

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>some legitimate chemistry at least from GI Robots side, because

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>GI Robots like Nina, I would love to kill Nazis

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 2>with you. Would you like to get together sometimes?

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that? Isn't that romantic? Isn't that romantic?

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Also?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking how funny it is a lot of times,

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're recapping stuff and you're we're kind of

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>chatting about it, and if you haven't listened to it,

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 3>then you might be like, kind of what's going on,

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 3>or you might get a general sense of it.

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 2>But this is definitely one.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Of those shows where when you're recapping it, people would

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 3>be like, what the fuck are you talking to?

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>A weasel?

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>And a robot's trying to have sex with like a

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 3>sexy creature from the Black Lagoon? Like, but that's the

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 3>magic of James gunfolksh.

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<v Speaker 2>Flag and the Princess talk about Weasel, She's like, oh,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>so cute? Is what a nice guy?

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Turns out weasel sadly killed like over two dozen children,

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>which is he ended up?

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Not great.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>The Princess is kind of complaining the Flag that Pecola Stan,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, is not very developed, it's kind of backward,

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's extremely corrupt, and she's hoping, although she doesn't say

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 2>this explicitly, that when she's in charge, like she will

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>get to modernize and you know, put in some progressive

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>policies and change the country again. Chemistry, we're getting chemistry,

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>certainly from chemistry.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, how old is Rick Flaxenia though, is he

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 3>like one of those one hundred and fifty year old

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 3>DC characters?

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>How old is the princess? And how old is Rick Fleggs?

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>He here because this is an issue I know.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what's going on? Is she an ancient immortal vampire?

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Because otherwise it is feeling inappropriate.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Flag talks about Flagg Junior, who very very sadly passed

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>away at cal tomor weeked.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 3>We we like, if you haven't watched James the Suicide Squads,

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>go and watch it. It is one of the best

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>war movies ever made. Is one of the best DC

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 3>movies ever made. Is one of the best superhero movies

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 3>ever made. It's so freaking good and emotional and apparently

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>very important to the creature and potentially the DCU.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>So I love this significant emotional uh like machinery comes

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:12.719
<v Speaker 2>from that Suicide Squad movie and Dad Flag in this

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>private conversation with the princess is like, you know, you

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>would have loved my son. You guys would have hit

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>it all. He good looking kid, you're a you're a

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 2>striking young woman, and you two would have, you know,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed each other's company. And then the princess is like, well,

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm into Daddy's I'm into dad flags.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's what we're into now. Is She's like, I

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 3>don't want Joel Kineman.

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Joel Kineman is that, you know, charismitic

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>in actor.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 3>She's incorrect.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about the grill.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to get the grill.

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to get the So she goes up to

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>her bedroom with a Flag senior in tow and she's like,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to show you something, and Flag Senior's like,

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>what do you got? And then she steps out of

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>her dress. Flag singor is like, oh my god, what

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And she is really trying to raise that flag. She

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>is trying to fuck fucking daddy Rick Flaggs.

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>She's trying to raise the flag pole. It's happening.

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 2>It's happening now. Flag very honorably declines he's got a

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>job to do.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Prof was a fat.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>That I'm like, Rick, good job.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you're trying to show like there's like

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 3>r rated behavior in this like you could have gone

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 3>straight into it, but I like you're like, no, this

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>character he's got integrety. He's got He maybe realizes this

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>woman would be bater off with his dead son, so

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 3>like he realizes that's not necessarily he.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't want to create an international incident, and so he

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>goes back to his bedroom and jerks off. Probably he

0:31:59.040 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't do that.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Probably, but let's be real.

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<v Speaker 2>When the next scene happens, you see him on his phone,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and my guess is this is five minutes after he

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>just got down. Look, we're just being realistic, guys, and

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.719
<v Speaker 2>goes and immediately do his revage. I saw, and uh.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>We get a kind of sweeping, kind of uh conveyance

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of scenes that show us what's going on in the castle.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Gi Robot is at the princess's door, talking to himself

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>about how he loves to kill Nazis. Nina is taking

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>a bath fully under the water. When she emerges, she

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>notices that the bride has jumped out of the window

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and is leaving the castle. She follows. Nina tries she's

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to convince the bride to come back, you know,

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>because Rick flagg Sor, as with previous suicide squad teams,

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 2>has the ability through an app on his through the

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Bell Reeve app on his phone easy has the ability

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>to like electrocute end or like explode any member of

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the of the Monster the Creature Commandos if he so

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>wishes through this app. And She's like, we're gonna get

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>electro shocked at the very least, but the.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Bride's blown up, but the very wistle.

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But the bride is like who cares? She mugs a

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>guard for some cash and then hails a cab. Flag

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>wakes up to find that doctor Phosphorus is like going

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>through his drawers of his like bag lies like trying

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to like rob him. They end up having a fight

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>in which they a large part of the struggle is

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>control over Flag's phone so he can't get into the

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>app and blow up phosphorus head. They end up in

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen. As they fall through the floor, Flag and

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Phosphorus are like duking it out. The princess walks in

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>on them, uh, and Flag beats Phosphorus, but then ultimately

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>is like listen, if we can't if Waller finds out

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 2>about this. We're all cooked, like the creature commanders are cooked.

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>You are cooked. You're probably dead, and project and is cooked. Baby,

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna look bad for me. So like, let's just

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>like sweep this under the rug and forget this ever happened.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>But don't try shit like this again. In the cab,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Nina and Bride arrive at their destination. It's the castle

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 2>of doctor Frankenstein.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh don't dune. Also, I just want to say, Frankenstein, Nina,

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>that's a girl's gal. Like she went with her. She

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, you're not doing this by yourself.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 3>You're not doing this by yourself. That's a girl's gal.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 3>And now where did she end up? At the castle

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 3>of doctor Frankenstein, which I'm sure just doesn't seem like

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna go well for anyone. So Nina and the

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Bride are on their feminist side quest and they arrive

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 3>at the manor of Dr Frankenstein, where the bride was born.

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 3>But bad news for them because local spy witnesses their

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>arrival and she calls into her boss, not Victor Frankenstein,

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the doctor, but Eric Frankenstein, frank Stein's monster, and he says, Hey,

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the girlfriend your dad made for you, the one you've

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 3>been looking for, She's back, baby, bab.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on the first episode of Creature Commandments.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I understand why James Gunn decided to start

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the DCU officially with this. It's like, really really solid

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 3>like it. It's a no note type of situation. It's

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>like a really really great pilot for a really weird

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>animated show that probably no one but James Gunn could do. Also,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and I feel like this is intentional and if not,

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that to the fans it will read as

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 3>an important statement. We've talked about this a lot on

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the show. DC has for a very long time been

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>seen as the four front runner in animated movies. For

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 3>a long time before the MCU, people used to say

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 3>DC was making the best superhero movies full stop, because

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 3>they were still making animated films that hit really hard.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 3>So I think that this is a recognition of the

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 3>importance of animation in the DC universe and also a

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 3>statement of intent from James Gunn saying, Hey, this is

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna matter again, and not just that, but it's actually

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna shape what we're doing. The fact that they connect

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>it to Suicide Squad, which, like I said, the Suicide

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Squad is one of my favorite movies. And also I

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 3>love how strange James Gunn gets with it. Like, you know,

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I do know if I'm I really enjoy Invincible and stuff.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 3>But I'm a bit older now, you know, I don't

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 3>necessarily need every cartoon to be like an rated cartoon

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 3>like Invincible, same vox MARKA, even though they're both great.

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 3>But for me, the heart of the characters is their

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>little choices flag not sleeping with the princess, flag letting

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Dr Foster for us off. He's already building those found

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 3>family moments, and also the intrigue of you know, for

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people these characters, except for the bride,

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>who is recognizable as obviously like the Bride of Frankenstein,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 3>they are not necessarily hugely recognizable characters, even like Nina

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>is a take on you know, the creature from the

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 3>back of the Lagoon. But what a clever hook to

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 3>have them end at a really really famous literary and

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 3>cinematic location that immediately draws people in, even if they

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>might feel like this is a little bit far outside

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>of the ven diagram of like a list of superheroes.

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think it's really good. I also think

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 3>that I'm so interested to see how James gun balances

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 3>something like this and the tonal nature of something like

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 3>this with having Superman being his first live action movie

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 3>like Sons of Demiscerret, is that going to be something

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>we see in super Man? Is he seeding stuff here

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that will lead in That's very fun to think about,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 3>and also Superman needs to be We haven't had like

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>a pure hearted golden boy Superman in live action for

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a long time, you know, post Man of Steel and everything.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 3>So I'm and you know he's releasing images with Crypto

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the Superdog and Superman, so I feel like we're gonna

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 3>get that. So I'm just interested to see how those

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>two blend together. But I do think if anyone can

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 3>do it, it's it's James Gunn.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the the body count is going to.

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Be here with the I think it's going to be

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 3>so high.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>It is a feature of the Amanda.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Waller, Yeah, Teamanda wall of Us.

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 2>That they many of them don't come back. That's so

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I will say.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I do think he's done something quite clever here, which

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 3>is he is Essentially, these are characters who it's very

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 3>easy to give plot armor two Robot Dot Fosporus like

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 3>weird science y blaming guy. Nina essentially could be immortal.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.720
<v Speaker 3>She's like a creature from the back of the bride.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 3>You can take her apart and put her back together again.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 3>So I hope, I hope that they will probably last

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a while. There isn't a huge, massive cast of characters

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 3>like there was for that the Suer Squad Side Squad movie,

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 3>but I do think that we're going to get a

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 3>lot more death than we got in this first episode.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I would assume that by episode two, episode three, we're

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing quite a lot of righteous killing because because the

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 3>creature Kimandos have always been that last ditch squad that

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 3>you send in when it's need them to come back

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 3>or if you need them to be painted as villains,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 3>which is obviously the same as the Suicide Squad, but

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 3>here it's even easier because you can convince really anyone

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that a monster is the worst person to have in

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 3>the space. So I'm very interested. I will be very

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>intrigued to see how this lands as well, because let's

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 3>be real, X Men ninety seven was easily one of

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 3>the biggest shows of the year, So I think people

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 3>are primed for great animation and primed to take great

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 3>animation as seriously as they take live action. So yeah,

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be gonna be interesting to see where it

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:22.959
<v Speaker 3>goes next.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Creature Commanders Episode two, following directly on the heels of

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>episode one, Episode one, Rosie We opened in eighteen thirty one.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm Picola, Stan Victor Frankenstein, the creator and father

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>of his son Eric frank Sismonster are arguing about whether

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>it is more and right for Dad to make Eric

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>a girlfriend. Is No, this is an edge old fable, guys, No,

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 2>it's not right, but Eric is is extremely lonely and

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 2>frustrated and it's making him kind of violent. Uh. Dad

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 2>shows the body parts that his mortician has acquired for

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>this process, an area he's in love with. We go

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to the present. The bride and Nina are in the

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, the abandoned Frankenstein's mansion and they're we're kind

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>of looking around. Nina's like, why are we here? And

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the bride doesn't want to want to say back of

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the palace flag. Fresh off his fight with doctor Phosphorus,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>he is bleeding, he's bruised, he's in the bathroom. Uh,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he is considering. He's got his phone open, so he's

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like considering whether to cook the creature commandos with his

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>electrical charge on his phone app.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I love this so much as well, because, like you know,

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 3>there's always that debate of like do you use the

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 3>phone and the bass him or not? Like who does

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 3>and who does it? And it's like when we talk

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 3>about it, we're talking about like do you scroll Instagram

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>or like message your friends when you're in the bathroom.

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>And he's like in there with this universal conversation like

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 3>what should I do in the bathroom? Should I kill

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 3>all these people or not kill them with my app

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 3>in my phone? And I was like, great, this is fantastic.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 3>So the Princess is ministering to his wounds.

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>She closes the door, and you know, she's wiping the

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>blood off and all the wild flags. I understand that

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 2>this is like, obviously this is not ideal. I'm here

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 2>to protect you and I just got in a fight

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>with one of my team, but I promise I'm they'll

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>protect you. Under protect your government. We go back to Cossa.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Frankistein Nina continues to, you know, just kind of probe

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 2>about you know, what was it like here with the

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 2>mansion you were born, here was like, uh, they find

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Victor's lab. Nina is very impressed by this, and the

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>bride shows Nina the table where she was reanimated. This

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>is interesting to me because what it suggests, Rosie is

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>that in this DC universe, there is no Mary Shelley

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>never wrote Frankenstein. Right, there's no there's no Frankenstein movies.

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:12.479
<v Speaker 3>This is just.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right, They've never seen this in movies.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, it's just this really interesting too, because the version

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 3>of the Brider Frankenstein movie is actually like a play

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>on Mary Shelley's life, so like, the whole thing is

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 3>really surreal. And I love that you pointed that out

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 3>because I think we're getting a lot of conversation, rightly so,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>and discourse about like what has James gunn canonized with

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 3>this show. Peacemaker obviously, the Suicide Squad obviously, but I

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 3>love that it's also establishing, like, no, some of your

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>most famous fables in the world, your most famous folkloric tales,

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the first science fiction but the whole time don't exist.

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't Oh my god.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I recognize this from the movie. So this is

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>like Frankenstein came and like, woke you up? Right? No, no,

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I wonder how that will impact the world going forward.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm very insighted. I wonder, right. So Nina and the

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Bride argue about whether Nina is human. The Bride's like,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>you can't.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>You can't.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 2>You don't understand what it's like to be me or

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the team because you're a person. She's like,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a person, creature.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Commando like you.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, you're just like a person with gills,

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not You're not like that.

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like such an outrageous thing to say, because it's like, babe,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 3>guess what, You're just like human parts chopped up and

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 3>put back together. Like surely you're actually arguably more human

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>if you really need that.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Nina's like, what are we looking for? And she's like

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a necklace, a tormaline necklace. We see war history of

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the Bride. We see Victor teaching her to teaching her

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to speak. When she was awakened, she had no higher functions.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>She was, you know, didn't know anything. So while Victor

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is teaching her you know, the rudimentary speech. Eric is

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>increasingly impatient. He just wants to make out with his

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend that was created for him, and Victor is like, no,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>we have to we have to get her so that

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>she understands you.

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Can't just have sex with this woman with the brain

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 3>of a baby. Yes, correct, Sorry guys. In the meanwhile,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, Victor's teaching her words. He shows her this

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 3>necklace and she is enchanted by it and clearly still is.

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 2>We go to the present. The sons of them Ascia

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>have been informed by the spy and they and Circe

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>now know that Nina and the bride are at the

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>doctor Frankenstein's house. We go to the palace present day.

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this.

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Is like if I have an issue, I like, I don't.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess, like I still don't really understand same the

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 3>central issue.

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:54.919
<v Speaker 2>Like I was, whyte Pacola stead?

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like why is she doing the side quest? I

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 3>like the side quest? You know, David Habba playing Frankenstein.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 3>That's a great costing. Like, I love this idea, but

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like trying to so far it hasn't shown

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 3>me how it kind of ties him with this large

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 3>and narrative and I'm fine with that, But then having

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 3>it be like Circe and thermoscare Circe and the sons

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 3>of Thermoscara now know they're there, I'm like, why does

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 3>that matter? Like why I.

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Need a little bit more, you know, about what their

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 2>plan is? Because I agree with you. It's a little

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>bit like why are we here? M hm, small note. Anyway,

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 2>back in the palace the princess, why are we here?

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It finally happens boo.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>We were giving him so much credit episode wrong. We

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 3>were like, this man has integrity, this man knows what's

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>wrong or right, and he does not.

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>The princess, uh, you know, really puts the burners to

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the flag Senior and makes it clear that she would

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>like to take things physical. And so then, much like

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Sonny and the Godfather won, he and the Princess fuck

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom, says could.

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I feel Yeah, go anywhere else.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 2>As the rest of the Creature commandos plus Alexi, chief

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 2>of the guards outside listen to this happening, we go

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>back to Frankencin's mansion. The bride continues to reminisce er ed.

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 2>We see that in the past Eric kind of strangles

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 2>his dad not to death, but strangles him because he's

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 2>so frustrated in not being able to touch the bride.

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Yet he's like so horny that he asks to try

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 3>and kill his dad, who has been in the present,

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Nina finds a necklace good for help in the past.

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Victor teaches the bride to speak. The bride clearly enjoys

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Victor's company. The chemistry starts flowing a little bit. Victor

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.879
<v Speaker 2>gives her the necklace and he says romantically it's from

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the cadavers, and she's like, I love it

0:47:56.160 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>now pause here, this plus flags a little too much

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>daddy stuff, a lot.

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Of weird daddy issue, like.

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Because he's kind of HER's if.

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>He's Eric's father, he is also hurt he is also

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the bride's father.

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, I just also feel like, if you're gonna this,

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you completely. Here. I was definitely like, look,

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 3>if you want to have multiple weird toxic relationships, that's fine. Yeah,

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:25.879
<v Speaker 3>DC comics is known for them. All comics are known

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 3>for them. But why do they all have to be

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 3>like weird daddy issue toxic relationships, Like, like's mix it

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 3>up a little bit, Let's make a different kind of trope.

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's put a pin at it, because I want

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to I want to return to this conversation when this

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 2>this particular plot line escalatees. So we go to the

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 2>present where the Bride pretends she takes the necklace from

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Nina and pretends like she doesn't really care about it,

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's not important, but she wants it. Uh. Just

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>then Circe arrives and blasts the Bride with her blast

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 2>through the from the outside of the house back of

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the palace creature Commando's plus flag plus Alexi or getting

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>ready to drive to Frankenstein's where Circe and the Bride

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 2>are duking it out while the sons of Semiscira are

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>invading the house.

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Why Like why are they going there? This is what

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like, I'm like, how did it? It doesn't

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>to me feel like that connection of the side quest

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>And I guess he has like find my location on

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 3>his phone, probably with the creature kmmandos and he's like, well,

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I've had sex with the princess now, but I go

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 3>find out what my team is.

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>But I guess, you know, I guess he was like, well,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I thought this might We're in Pekolistan, so this mansions there,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 2>so she did love that necklace, she didn't love that,

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and so I figured, you know, this might be a

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 2>possibility that she might sneak away and go back to

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 2>where she was born like that happened.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like they could have just had the

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 3>mission originally be to go to Frankenstein's palace and Frankenstein's

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 3>castle and we didn't necessarily need the princess plot line.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I will say this written and directed by James Gunn

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 2>both episodes. James Gunn busy guy, a lot of projects

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>to oversee, to going to produce, et cetera. And I

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed these episodes quite a bit. That said, light on story,

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like vibes light on story, Yeah, big

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>on action. James Gun's a busy guy. That's what my

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 2>bottom line is.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I also did just have a bit of a revelation,

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:31.720
<v Speaker 3>which is, like you said, many projects, and also anything

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 3>he does in this show immediately becomes canon and sets

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stage. So maybe the fact, maybe you

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 3>go for more vibes and character interactions and character moments

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 3>than necessarily like a strict narrative, because as soon as

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 3>you start laying down those hard narrative choices, they become canon.

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 3>So doing it a little bosa, I think is it

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.359
<v Speaker 3>makes a lot of sense actually, And also like the

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Circy Bride fight is like very cool.

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It's very cool. So we get this wonderful fight between

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the Bride, the sons of Themiscarra, and Circe, where it

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 2>ends up with the bride kind of leaping outside with

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Nina under her arm into a group of sons. She

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 2>kills all the sons very easily, and then she tells

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Nina like run. Then Circe and the Bride start fighting.

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>The fight carries back into the house, into the lab

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>where she was born, and that is where the bride

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 2>loses focus because she remembers on that very table where

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>she was born she also fucked Victor Frankstein.

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Come on, like, could you not just like not have

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 3>that flashback at that very.

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing, here's my here's my note, and

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 2>this is James Gunn So I get it, and this

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 2>is is vibe. I will say this. I think that

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 2>there are other ways to show that somebody loved somebody

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>else that aren't just like they're fucking like. There are

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 2>other things and I.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 3>Feel like you could have had like a tender moment

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 3>like the bromance, so like the books that they or

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 3>some of that kind of Gothic romance that isn't just

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 3>like hey, they're fucking they're fucking younger, woman's fucking adapt bigger. Hey.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Also like it's hilarious the idea that like, you know,

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 3>she has that like moment and instead of it like

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 3>distracting her from a job, but as a barista, as

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 3>it does for many of us, it's like, oh no,

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about how I was fucking this guy and

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 3>now I'm gonna lose this fight that's gonna end the world.

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.359
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's silly, but I get it.

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>So Circe starts winning the fight because the Bride is

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 2>lost in these memories about her fucking her father figure

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Victor Frankenstein end. When this happened, Eric who is like

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 2>eight foot tall and somehow managed just such so intense

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was their pleasure that they did not realize that Eric

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 2>had snuck into a room and seen them. Now the

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Bride managed just to rally in the fight, and it's

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of even also has radio flag and when that

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 2>has been more suns sneak up on her. They shoot

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 2>her helmet and her water leaks out and she begins

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to suffocate. Meanwhile, the Bride gets pushed off the roof

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>by Circe and she falls right next to Nina, and

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 2>now they're lying together in this state of severe injury.

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>We get the final reminiscence. The bride returns to the

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 2>castle to find that Eric has murdered doctor Frankenstein because

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>he feels like Dad was standing in the way of

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.720
<v Speaker 2>them getting together and now they can really be together.

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 2>She sets Eric on fire, great flees the castle, and

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 2>then we see a montage of her fighting Eric, who

0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 2>is basically her stalker throughout the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, great, great moment here. If you're looking for

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Easter eggs, think about how this connects.

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs.

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Eric is wearing this yellow Ultra Bunny T shirt and

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 3>it was like a T shirt Rick flag War in

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 3>the Suicide Squad movie. And somebody this up to James

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Gunn on the interwebs and he said, oh, and this

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 3>is an interesting piece of cannon. He said in his

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 3>DCU Ultra Bunny is like one of the most famous

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.759
<v Speaker 3>cartoon characters in the world. So that sounds like he's

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna that's gonna probably come up. But like, I'm at

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>a crossroads at the end of this episode because I

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:27.240
<v Speaker 3>do like the idea of like this kind of twist

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>on the Frankenstein mythology and this twist on having Frankenstein

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 3>as part of the Creech Commandos, but also like I

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 3>would just like love to just have like a bad

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.359
<v Speaker 3>ass brider Frankenstein who hadn't been stalked for like two

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:41.240
<v Speaker 3>hundred years.

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 2>He's he won't join, right, they can't have it er.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, but I will say he is

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of the promotional materials. Yeah, so I'm interested.

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And David Harbor is the voice.

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 3>David Harbor is the voice, and David Harbor has been

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 3>out here doing interviews, including a really fantastic interview with

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 3>my brilliant French Woul's Chin at DC dot Com. Just

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 3>absolutely lovely chat. So I feel like that means he

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 3>is going to be a major player, but maybe maybe

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 3>is an intagon antagonist, which would be because I think

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you can't I think did this you can't have him

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 3>in the team.

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 2>He's been stalking this woman for two hundred and forty

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 2>years or something like or one hundred and eighty years,

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 2>like he can't he can't be a good guy, right, No,

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 2>it feels bad anyway, Nina and the Bride are they're injured,

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and the Bride is like, I'm sorry to Tanina, and Nina

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.879
<v Speaker 2>like coughingly, suffocatingly says, go fuck yourself, and then they

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 2>are taken prisoner by the suns. Don don da, I'm

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 2>enjoying it. I'm enjoying Suture commandos. I have some small

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 2>notes as we Yes, as we have mentioned, yes, we

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 2>think the Daddy still a little bit too much of

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the Daddy. And again I think that like not every

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 2>act of love needs to be a a really like

0:55:54.200 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 2>intense exactly. Yeah, you see Victor Frankensigin's like buns like

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 2>cle and.

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 3>He's getting that that bringing all those people to life

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 3>is apparently really good for your cardio. But okay, what

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I saw a lot of controversy online basically people thinking

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 3>that Nina was dead at the end of this episode

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 3>or was gonna go way at no way, right, no, Nina,

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 3>miss I feel like with these first two episodes, they've

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 3>really set Nina and the Bride up as kind of

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the main characters, so I would completely I think episode three,

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 3>we're probably going to find out more about the Sons

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 3>of Themiscare are find out if they truly are the

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.879
<v Speaker 3>abandoned sons of the Women of Themiscira, which was only

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:40.320
<v Speaker 3>in like one kind of version of the the legend.

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 3>If that is the case, it's going to be very

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 3>interesting to see where the DCU version of Wonder Woman

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of what direction it goes, because the general version

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 3>of Wonder Woman's creation is she was made of clay

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 3>by her mother brought to life, but in the version

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 3>with the Sons of Themiscara, the comic book version, she

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 3>is Hippotolys raped by Zeus and then that's how Wonder

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Woman is born. So I'm interested to see where they go.

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 3>But I think it feels to me, especially in a

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 3>world post she Hulk, that kind of did such a

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>good job of predicting what the fandom would say. With

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the case of the kind of MRA characters, I think

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 3>it's more likely that this is going to be some

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of modern like Andrew Tait inspired movement. But they've

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 3>taken the name because you know, men aren't allowed on demisteras,

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 3>so they see that as oppression.

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 2>What does Amanda Waller do all day? What is her

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 2>work day? Like I think she's just.

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, playing Candy Crush because honestly she's not.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 3>She is like not focused and her job like it's

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 3>kipy hard. And also she has like a she has

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 3>a daughter we now know, the peace Maker, So I'm like,

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 3>is she just like at home with the family pretending

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.840
<v Speaker 3>to be like a homemaker, And also like why is

0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 3>she always sending these unstable men to be in charge

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 3>of her teams? Like like, couldn't you just have like

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 3>one person, could a James Gunn's wife who seems like

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>a very sensible moral person in the DCU that agent

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't couldn't she go? I understand they're meant to be dispensable,

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like the more Amanda Waller in the

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 3>DCU goes forward, the less sensible her choices are around

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 3>these teams, like bringing peace Baker into it, like he's

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 3>a psycho. His dad was literally like a Nazi, Like

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 3>this is a terrible idea. And now it's like, oh,

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 3>you got this team with a guy who's too distracted

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 3>having sex so he can't even blow people up when

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 3>they run off to Frankenstein's fucking a client. Amanda, Amanda,

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 3>you sent them to the place where the Bride of

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Frankenstein was created, and then you just expected her to

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 3>stay there, he head blowing up.

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you send a different agent. You don't need

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to send the bride to Coli. Stant I feel like

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just anyone else. But yeah, I wonder.

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 3>I do think she's just like scrolling. She's just like

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 3>scrolling and going to bellrare like taunting criminals. You know,

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.920
<v Speaker 3>she's a bad person, but definitely not a busy person

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 3>because she is never doing the work, never do She's

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 3>always sending someone else to do it.

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Coming up next, let's talk about some of the comic

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>book roots of the Creature play.

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're back, Okay, Rosie.

0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 2>For those of our audience who aren't you know Superversion

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>into DC or Creature Commandos in general, what are some

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of the things that we should know as we go

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 2>into Creature Commandos the animated show.

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's just start with the origins. Preach Commandoes

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 3>were first introduced in Weird War Tales ninety three, classic

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 3>DC title you've probably never heard of, but they were

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 3>created by J. M. D. Pat Broderick, John Salado, Adrian

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Roy and Ben Oder obviously first two names there are

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 3>massive names in combook history, and essentially it's like a

1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 3>reimagining of a war comic where Frank sized monster, a werewolf,

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and a vampire universal monsters by any other name are

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>essentially pitted against Nazis in World War Two. And it

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 3>was very b movie ish, very pulpy. But the thing

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 3>that I think is really really interesting is that Dimitaeus

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 3>basically came up with a great twist on why and

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:38.640
<v Speaker 3>how they were created, which was essentially that in an

1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 3>alternate World War Two, the US government wants to psychologically

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 3>horrify their enemies on the battlefield, and they discovered that

1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:51.440
<v Speaker 3>the most terrifying archetypes are the ones that humans have created,

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and they basically recreate them. But the thing that I

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:58.160
<v Speaker 3>think is really interesting that I'm most intrigued to see

1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:01.800
<v Speaker 3>if they bring into Crete Commando's the TV series and

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:05.960
<v Speaker 3>like future versions of it, Mattheus Essentially Dimitaeus actually like

1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 3>made it so they were all experimented on and it's

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:14.400
<v Speaker 3>like very horrific, and like the were wolf is this

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:17.480
<v Speaker 3>guy called Warren Griffith who suffered from a mental illness

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 3>that made him think he was alike in Thrope, and

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:24.000
<v Speaker 3>then they basically like forced him to manifest a physical

1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 3>version of it through torture. And then they didn't recruit

1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:32.000
<v Speaker 3>an actual Dracula, they found this guy, Vincent Velcro, who

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 3>is also back again in the really brilliant current DC

1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Horror presents Creature Commando's book written by David Desmulchin and

1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 3>DC on screen Legend two, and he was essentially like

1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:52.000
<v Speaker 3>a prisoner of war after committing a numerous amounts of crime,

1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and they basically were like, will you agree to hundreds

1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:59.640
<v Speaker 3>of months of like horrible torture to evade your sentence?

1:01:59.720 --> 1:02:03.480
<v Speaker 3>And then he didn't know, or you guess he didn't

1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 3>know from reading the issues that they were going to

1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:09.000
<v Speaker 3>inject him with bats blood and he turns into a vampire.

1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 3>And then the saddest one is is the Frankenstein's Monster

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.120
<v Speaker 3>one is essentially a vet who was blown up by

1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 3>a lamb mine and then gets put back together. So

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:21.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like it could have been like this really simplistic

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:26.400
<v Speaker 3>story that you just go like, whoa monsters fighting in

1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:30.560
<v Speaker 3>World War two? But Demitis plays it with like absolute

1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:35.360
<v Speaker 3>emotional heft from the very first bubble, speech, bubble and

1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:38.280
<v Speaker 3>thought bubble that you get and caption is essentially this

1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:43.080
<v Speaker 3>emotionally complex story where at the end like they kind

1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:48.160
<v Speaker 3>of have this realization where even though obviously when they're

1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:52.600
<v Speaker 3>fighting nazis great, but the real story is actually about

1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.160
<v Speaker 3>the horrors of war and the way that soldiers are

1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:59.640
<v Speaker 3>treated and the kind of exploitation of prisoners, all stuff

1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.080
<v Speaker 3>that I think James Gunn covered really beautifully in the

1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:07.919
<v Speaker 3>Suicide Squad movie. So I'm really interested to see how

1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:10.800
<v Speaker 3>deep they go. For example, later on in the series,

1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I do feel like this is something that James Gunn

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:15.680
<v Speaker 3>would not be afraid to touch on. But they're in

1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:19.320
<v Speaker 3>the Children's Crusade, which was a story they had years

1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:23.640
<v Speaker 3>before the more famous Marvel's Children's Crusade. They basically face

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<v Speaker 3>off against like a group of child soldiers that Hitler trained,

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<v Speaker 3>and while the monsters won't kill them, their evil leader,

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<v Speaker 3>who I'm interested to see if he comes into it,

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<v Speaker 3>because he is in the current comic and he's basically

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<v Speaker 3>the true monster, is like the marine who's in charge

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<v Speaker 3>of them, Matthew Shreve, who's like really evil. He does

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<v Speaker 3>kill the children and then that is basically has this

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<v Speaker 3>really famous line where the vampire Vincent Valkro great name,

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<v Speaker 3>he basically says, like, in this contest, nobody wins, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like really bleak over the dead bodies of the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like this is very ripe for James Gunn.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's already, like I said, he's already

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<v Speaker 3>done all a lot of that stuff in The Suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 3>I found that movie to be like incredibly moving and

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<v Speaker 3>deep and kind of powerful, And I think he is

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<v Speaker 3>so quickly connecting that movie to the show because he

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<v Speaker 3>sees those parallels and in the New Creature Kimano's book

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<v Speaker 3>that Smulchin's definitely doing the same thing. So I'm interested

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<v Speaker 3>to see The first episode was very much in that

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<v Speaker 3>Invincible vein kind of funny, kind of sexy, kind of violent.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm interested to see how quickly it beers closer

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<v Speaker 3>to the comic book origins, where it's a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of a melancholy, a bit more of a sadness. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I will say some of James Gunn's work got into

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<v Speaker 3>the Galaxy until the third movie, which obviously had this

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<v Speaker 3>huge kind of storyline about exploitation, torture, and testing on animals,

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<v Speaker 3>but some of sometimes he prefers to do something a

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<v Speaker 3>little lighter, a little more fun. But I do feel like, generally,

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<v Speaker 3>especially the origins of the Heroes and Creature Commandos is

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<v Speaker 3>much more melancholy and weird and sad and deep than

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<v Speaker 3>you would expect, even though like throughout the years they've

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<v Speaker 3>been all different kinds of of in, all different kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of comics and all different kinds of guys is But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that my gut says there might be more to this

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<v Speaker 3>than meets that.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch the team itself, The Bride, Doctor Posteros, wesel Gia, Robertina.

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<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing here is they didn't include Matthew Shreve,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is really interesting because he's generally seen

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<v Speaker 3>as like that store, that kind of application of like

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<v Speaker 3>the real monsters of the humans. It's also interesting that

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<v Speaker 3>we have Rick Flagg Senior because in the Suicide Squad,

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Flegg Junior is actually right the person with the

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<v Speaker 3>moral heart at this center of the story who ends

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<v Speaker 3>up being spoiler alert if you haven't seen this movie

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<v Speaker 3>from a few years ago, killed by Peacemaker in order

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<v Speaker 3>to keep Amanda Waller's secret that the Americans were behind

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<v Speaker 3>the Quarto Maltese kind of horrific torture and experiments that

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<v Speaker 3>were going on. So I would imagine that Rick Flaxenia

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<v Speaker 3>has ulterior motives. I think we'll be hopefully seeing him

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<v Speaker 3>in Peacemaker on some kind of revenge. But interestingly, this

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<v Speaker 3>is from what I've researched and read like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>mostly a new team, not having like a Frank like

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<v Speaker 3>having the Bride instead of your classic Francancised monster really cool,

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<v Speaker 3>a new thing. Also having Nina Mazerski rather than having

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the DC aquatic characters or like a

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<v Speaker 3>male creature from the Black Lagoon. There are some characters

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<v Speaker 3>who cross over, but this is honestly pretty new territory.

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<v Speaker 3>And interestingly, Vincent Velcro is like one of the recurring characters,

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously we don't have him so far, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think James Gunn is trying to say this is a

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<v Speaker 3>new thing. I also wouldn't be surprised if we get

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<v Speaker 3>like a flashback episode that reveals this isn't like the

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<v Speaker 3>first team that Amanda Walla has done this with.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Nina Maserski. I've always wondered this is she related

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<v Speaker 2>to Abe Sabien.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I'm always thinking that, but Abe Sapien. Technically, I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's a different I know it's it's a different universe,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, but we'll still need feels like especially I

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<v Speaker 3>think also like it's easy to think of that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Because and they have the same they do the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, so similar stuff. Also, Nina Mazerski's created by Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>Lamiir and Ibrahm Robinson and obviously Roberson and obviously Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>Lamir had dark Horse books at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Black by the Way, a major recurring character in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hellboy universe.

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<v Speaker 3>By Mike mcgnola, who used to do DC stuff did

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<v Speaker 3>Gotham by Gaslamp, one of the coolest Batman kind of

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<v Speaker 3>Elseworld stories that the originator of the Elseworld story really

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<v Speaker 3>and they were at dark Horse at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do feel like when Jeff introduced her in

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<v Speaker 3>Frankenstein Agents of Shade, which was obviously a riff on

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<v Speaker 3>Agents of Shield, I do think that this must have

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<v Speaker 3>been in his head. Like I feel like it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things where like if your friend, like Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>if me and you were doing different books, and you

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<v Speaker 3>were doing a book at DC and I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>a book at Marvel. We would definitely create some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of headcanon where we're like, yeah, these are brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 3>and then ten years later, when we're famous enough to

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<v Speaker 3>we'd be like, hey, so what turns out they are really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it turns out they're related. Sorry, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't like to hear it, Jim shoot R

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<v Speaker 3>or whoever's in charge, But like I will be. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just interested to see what happens. Because Nina also does

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<v Speaker 3>have a in the Jeff Lamier version, she is like

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<v Speaker 3>one of the originators of the Creature Commandos, which I

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<v Speaker 3>do think potentially we could see here. Also, she lost

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<v Speaker 3>like her kid at like the terminal illness, which kind

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<v Speaker 3>of moved her towards science, so we could get some

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<v Speaker 3>of that could also explain why she's such a girl's girl. Also, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>she has connections to like the atom and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Nina could be our main I feel like she

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<v Speaker 3>might emerge as the main character, even though this episode,

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<v Speaker 3>I will say I feel like she was more on

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<v Speaker 3>a side quest. But I do think that she is

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<v Speaker 3>important and hey, you know Mike Mignolo, Jeff Lamira. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to come on here and reveal that we

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<v Speaker 3>are correct, please, You're always welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>We love both of you. Well, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to cover Creature Commandos and if you really want

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<v Speaker 2>us to continue, yeah, please please let us number and

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<v Speaker 2>we could continue to watch it at the very least. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>In the next episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into

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<v Speaker 2>Dune Prophecy one oh four and Skeleton Crew episode one

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<v Speaker 2>O three Thursday. Plus next week we've got more TV recaps,

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<v Speaker 2>video game breakdowns, and of course more of our Egger's retrospective.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x

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