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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number to in

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Speaker 1: the show, wrapping up the two thousand fifteen season, discussing

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Speaker 1: our greatest lessons learned, our highs and our lows, and

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Speaker 1: what we're looking forward to in two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Sick of Gear. And today is one

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Speaker 1: of the very last days of two thousand fifteen, So

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Speaker 1: it seemed that Dan and I should probably take a

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Speaker 1: little time to wrap up this past year, discuss some

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Speaker 1: of our lessons learned, the highs and lows, and then

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Speaker 1: look forward to two thou sixteen a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: so that's the plan. Pretty casual today. It's the holidays

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Speaker 1: and we're kicking back here today. I guess Dana, I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I got a cold beverage

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Speaker 1: and I fear we can celebrate the new year talking deer.

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Speaker 1: Sound good? Well, if that's If there's one thing I

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Speaker 1: really like, it's cold beverages and and deer maybe. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and dear, I like I like talking about deer too.

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Speaker 1: It's a good combo. So that's the plan. You know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what I thought I should buy you or

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Speaker 1: one of those really cheesy hunting shirts that's like all

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Speaker 1: I care about is deers and beers. I take that

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Speaker 1: you would you wear it to the A T A show? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Maybe late at night? I've got a shirt that says, uh,

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Speaker 1: driving trucks and shooting bucks, no joke. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: they're all wherever they're at, they're all in a big

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Speaker 1: group together. Yeah, yeah, that's the truth. So hi, been man?

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, have I ever told you that I

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Speaker 1: hate my children? You know you've insinuated that, but you've

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Speaker 1: never come right on instead of that's horrible day, that's horrible.

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Speaker 1: I don't wait, wait wait, I love my children. I

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Speaker 1: love them. Someday Max is gonna listen to this podcast

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Speaker 1: and not be happy with you. Yeah, hopefully he's done

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Speaker 1: teething by then. Last I mean, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you work from home, whatever, But last night I

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Speaker 1: went to bed. I go to bed late now, just

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Speaker 1: time he wakes up up during the night, and I

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Speaker 1: feed him, then I put him back to bed. Then

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Speaker 1: I go to bed. So eleven o'clock I go to bed.

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Speaker 1: He's up again at one, and then he's up again

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Speaker 1: at three, and I just said screw it and went

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Speaker 1: to work at like four thirty this morning. Man, your

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Speaker 1: wife in care Oh, no, I mean she she uh

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Speaker 1: once I handed her mac off to her. She has

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Speaker 1: she has some tools that I don't have that will

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Speaker 1: quiet him up. I guess I can guess what that

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Speaker 1: might be. So, yeah, it's a breast. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it. That's it. So what else? White tails?

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Speaker 1: What else? We're off to a great start. Do you

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Speaker 1: hunt it at all anymore? In December at all? You know? No, Um,

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Speaker 1: I got out early this month, but just from family

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Speaker 1: And but the trail camera trail cameras really ain't showing much.

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Speaker 1: know I should I should know better. When you don't

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Speaker 1: return my text messages, it's because you're hunting. It's usually

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Speaker 1: the case, right, That is the truth. I man, Well

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Speaker 1: what happened. It's been it's been debacle. We we didn't

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Speaker 1: But um, since we talked last time, I borrowed my

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Speaker 1: luckily I have a backup. Um, but I had gone

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Speaker 1: So you've got two doughs in there, right, Yep, I

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Speaker 1: got two doughs. Yep. One was a year ling and

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Speaker 1: Gatherer cook Guy Hanks Shall, Hankshall. I need to take

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Speaker 1: cook my meat better. And that might be this part

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Speaker 1: like an appetizer. Nice. Yeah, you gotta get the ns.

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Speaker 1: And somehow we're actually we're actually using Hank's uh jerky

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Speaker 1: And then you know, tow over November we've been hunting

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Speaker 1: when you missed a buck. You know, not quite as

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00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: bad as that, But I mean there's like, man, if

426
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: I just tweaked this little thing, or maybe I could

427
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: have got a shot there. Maybe I should have taken

428
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: that shot. I don't know, but you know, you think

429
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: back on the such of things. Um, what if I

430
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: could have, should have would But you know, hinds and

431
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: nothing you can do by all you can do is

432
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: learn right, right, And just just to let you know,

433
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: for all the people out there that think Iowa is

434
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: some playground for aiant bucks behind every tree, yeah there's

435
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: big bucks here. But just like you saw in Iowa,

436
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: there's hunting pressure, there's obstacles, just like any other state.

437
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, granted, you know, Michigan may have fourteen million

438
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: more hunters than Iowa, but I mean you you had

439
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: to face obstacles just like I faced obstacles, you know,

440
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: just like you faced obstacles in other states and other

441
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: guys do. So it's not, you know, not like I'm

442
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: defending Iowa or anything like that, but they, I mean,

443
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: we it's it's it's just it's a real struggle. And

444
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: especially for guys like us who don't lease property. I mean,

445
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: you have a lease, but your Iowa property wasn't. At

446
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: least you had to share it with other hunters, and

447
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: and that's that can throw a huge wrench in your

448
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: game anywhere you hunt. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I think you know,

449
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: I think my I've hunted Iowa now two years, um,

450
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: and I've hunted shot. I found Iowa twice. I've hunted

451
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: Ohio like six years. I've haunted Michigan forever. I've hunted

452
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: once in Illinois, once in Nebraska, Uh, once in Indiana,

453
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: I want to say Illinois already. Um. So I found

454
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: it a handful of different places. What I'm trying to

455
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: get out here, um And I think the big thing

456
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: I've seen, at least where I've hunted in Iowa, the

457
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: big difference his to yr point, Like you said, there

458
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: are still issues with hunting pressure. There's still challenges there's

459
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: still like tactical issues that you need to work around

460
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: that are no different than wherever else you are. That

461
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: makes a serious challenge, which is you know why you

462
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: and me both didn't kill buck and Iowa yet this

463
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: year because there's a lot of challenges. So there's definitely

464
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot too. I think the biggest difference I've seen

465
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: in Iowa compared to almost anywhere else I've hunted except

466
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: for Ohio, UM, is that just like the number of

467
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: potential targets is so much higher, drastically higher. Um. And

468
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean mature box Like just

469
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: the number of available mature bucks are there, Um that

470
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: are there is a lot different than anywhere else ever hunted.

471
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: So UM, while I couldn't kill a mature deer in Iowa,

472
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: holy smokes, I sure saw a lot um And that

473
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: was what you know. What's fun about that is while

474
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: I may not kill one there, while it's still gonna

475
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: be a challenge to actually close a distance. And this

476
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: is bow hunting. Bow hunting, you know, as we all know,

477
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: is a whole another ball game. Um. Then when you

478
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: can reach out there with a gun. Um, Not that

479
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: there's not challenges of that too, there is those challenges

480
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: all the way across the board. But when it comes

481
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: to bow hunting there, which is what I was doing,

482
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things can go wrong. But it's cool

483
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: just to be in a place where you know that

484
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: there's such a high likelihood of at least seeing one.

485
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I just get and I know you too,

486
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: just a ridiculous kick every time I see a mature buck.

487
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's just awesome. So that was a lot

488
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: of fun when I could go out there, and you know,

489
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: I would hunt a million times in Michigan and God

490
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: bless Michigan. I love hunting here. Um, But you know,

491
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: I go out there and I'm thinking, okay, there's like

492
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: a two percent chance I might see a mature buck.

493
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: While every time I went out in Iowa, I would

494
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: be sitting in the stand thing, Okay, I feel like

495
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: I've gotten, you know, like a fifty percent chance I

496
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: might see a mature buck. You know, That's how it

497
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: was on a lot of my sets, even though I

498
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: was dealing with a million other hunters, not a million,

499
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: a lot of other hunters, almost more hunting pressure than

500
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I've dealt with in Michigan and Ohio. Um, you know,

501
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: once I was able to maneuver, I could adjust based

502
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: on where the pressure was, and then I was finding

503
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: this deer. Um. So I didn't get a shot, but

504
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I got to see a lot of deer. I had

505
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: some cool encounters, and um, that was fun. So so

506
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: I will always enjoy going to Iowa, even in a

507
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: situation like that where I was dealing with a lot

508
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: of other guys, just to be in the game where

509
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: any night could be the night. Um, that's pretty exciting. Yeah.

510
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Um, it was one of those

511
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: years where one of those situations, at least in Iowa,

512
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: where it was like incredibly frustrating. But you know, when

513
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I look back at now, like every day every day

514
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: I was there, I was like really excited and then

515
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: equally like scared because I sit in my standing like

516
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: every time I heard an engine fire up, or I

517
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: heard I saw like lights coming down the road, or

518
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: someone's like, oh gosh, my nights ruined another one. So

519
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: it was like it was frustrating in the moment, but

520
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: now when I look back, I was like, Wow, that

521
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: night was cool and that hunt was so much fun,

522
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: and that encounter was unbelievable. Uh So it's It's kind

523
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: of one of those things that looking back on it,

524
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: I can see how, you know, great it was while

525
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: in the moment was so focused on like trying to

526
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish that goal that maybe I couldn't enjoy

527
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: it as much. But I don't know. What What do

528
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: you think was your favorite moment of the year. As

529
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking back on some of my high points, some

530
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: of those were in Iowa, I'm curious, what was your

531
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: favorite moment of season? Man? From from the entire year,

532
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to pick just just watching bucks grow

533
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: on trail camera and pulling my trail camera cards in

534
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: the summer, and watching bucks grow throughout the entire summer,

535
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: and and putting the pieces of the pustle puzzle together

536
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, man, that's Mark Kenyon or that's Gorn Bombay,

537
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: or that's you know, or that's such and such buck.

538
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: That I just love that. I love the timelines and

539
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: the storylines that these bucks can give us. On the

540
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: other yeah, on the other end, from a hunting standpoint,

541
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: my favorite part was my buddy, my buddies fifteen acres.

542
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: I was able to hunt it, you know, during the

543
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: week I got access to some some decent properties closer

544
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: to home, and uh, going out and and hunting those

545
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: and and learning a property again. I've I've kind of

546
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: been stagnant um back, you know, on my old property,

547
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: because I've I know where all the good spots are,

548
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: I know where the pinch points are, the draws where

549
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I need to be in certain winds, and access rou

550
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: in and out, and um, I know all those things.

551
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: And there's not really a lot of thought that goes

552
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: into it anymore because you've been doing it so long

553
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: that going back to the my buddy's property, which is

554
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: only fifteen acres, and having to play cat and mouse

555
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: with this buck for however many times, however many days

556
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: that I was out there hunting was very enjoyable. I

557
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: just love that. Do you when you think about that

558
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: cat and mouse game? Now? I know we we talked

559
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: a little bit about it after the rut um, But

560
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: is there anything you would have done different now when

561
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: you think back on that time period or any part

562
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: of the season. I guess now, um, would you change anything?

563
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Change up your tactics? You know, the only thing that

564
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I can really think of is maybe knocking on a

565
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: one or two more doors to gain access through their

566
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: property to get to my tree stands, and just the

567
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: way this property sits, there's there are so many deer

568
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: on this property that I need to take some of

569
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: them off. I mean, we counted a trail camera picture

570
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: with seventeen does in it. Wow, that's a lot of does.

571
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: And it's just it's very hard to get in there

572
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: to your spot. But but you know, to answer your question,

573
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe try to find a different access route through

574
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: a different piece of property. That's really the only thing

575
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that I can think of. Did you ever, Um, I

576
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know what the access is like in their how

577
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: thick it is. But do you ever think about like

578
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: having your buddy drive you to your stand and like

579
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: a four wheeler or something like that, and then drive

580
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: it back up to his house Because I imagine those

581
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: deer are pretty used to some type of action. You know,

582
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: it seems like being close to the houses there, maybe

583
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: that's something they'd be used to and wouldn't think that

584
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: you would be in the tree still right right, Um,

585
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've thought about it. But evening hunts, I

586
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: can get to my stand without getting busted. In the

587
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: evening hunts, it's the morning hunts that where I'm going

588
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: in at like, you know, four in the morning. Yeah,

589
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: if I could get him out of bed, I could

590
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: probably do it. But he's gone, he's he travels a

591
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: lot for his job, so he's not there. But I

592
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: can see, I can see how that would work. Yeah,

593
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: it's one of those things easier said than done. Pulling

594
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: out the logistics isn't easy, but it's nice that you

595
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: can work about. Speaking of access, you know, something I

596
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: want to do next year, I want to get a

597
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: mountain bike and I want to use a mountain bike

598
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: to access some of my stands. Um, because I've been

599
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've heard some people to use that tactic,

600
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you're really far away, um, when

601
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you have to go back there a couple of miles

602
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: in public land or something, but shoot even in like

603
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: a an average hunter acre property or something like that.

604
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I think with a bike, you know, you could get

605
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: in without leaving as much human scent. You could get

606
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: in faster. It's you know, you're not walking, You're not

607
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: a walking human being. So if a deer does see

608
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: this thing go flying by them, I think they're less

609
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: likely to associate it with a human the sound is different. Um,

610
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a I think it's something

611
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: that's being underutilized the more I think about it. So

612
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna start using that for accessing stands.

613
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited about it. You know. One thing

614
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited for is hip waiters. And I think this

615
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: this coming. And I don't know about you, with with

616
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: all this logging that happened on my property and all

617
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: the the teeter totter kind of swang in the negative

618
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: direction this year as opposed to you know, yeah, I

619
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: had my big encounters and I messed those up, but

620
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I had a lot of things thrown at me on

621
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: my big property that I could not control. Yeah, which

622
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: has motivated me so much. I feel very motivated for

623
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen season already. So I'm that's

624
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. Or two is is getting back

625
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: out there checking out this what this logging, you know

626
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: during shed hunting season, is getting out there and checking

627
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: out what the logging actually did to the property, finding

628
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: those new thick areas where those down trees are at

629
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: that potentially could make for great bedding, and uh see

630
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: if that's going to change things. If I need to

631
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: change my game now that likely probably will. That'll be

632
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: interesting because, like you said, you kind of had learned

633
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: the property already as it was, and now it's going

634
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: to be a little bit different. Right the plan of

635
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: that when you're gonna start those scouting efforts. Well, right

636
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: now I heard from the other guy that hunts the

637
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: property that majority of the river bottoms underwater, um, because

638
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: of all the rain we've had lately. But probably not

639
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: until February, I guess this week, and I'm gonna go

640
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and try to take down all my tree stands and

641
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: trail cameras um that I that I have up still,

642
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: and other than that, probably not until shed hunting season,

643
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: probably late Februar, very early early March. Yeah. What uh?

644
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: You never you never said what one of your favorite

645
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: things was about this season? Obviously you killed a giant buck. Yeah, um,

646
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about the season, you know. I think

647
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: interestingly one thing that you know, obviously, like you said,

648
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: killing that buck in Ohio, killing Glenn was awesome given

649
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: the history everything had gone into it. Um. I think

650
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: part one would just be what I already said earlier,

651
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: being just seeing you know, tangible results from things I've

652
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: been doing for a long time that actually paid off,

653
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, having a plan and seeing an actually panel

654
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: that was really enjoyable. Um. You know, another thing that

655
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: was pretty enjoyable was um, you know, something we talked

656
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: about a lot is trying to gain access to more ground, right,

657
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: getting hunting access as a challenge and something that we

658
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: talked a lot about is being very important and I

659
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: definitely think it is, um, but it's something I kind

660
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: of don't like doing um and that I'm just not

661
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: the guy that loves talking to a bunch of different

662
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: people I don't know and happen to have random small talk.

663
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm just not that guy. Um. So the idea of

664
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: knocking on a million doors and trying to get permission

665
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: is always something that I begrudgingly do, but I never

666
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: do it enough, and it's always something I kind of dread. UM.

667
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: So that being the case this year though, going into Iowa.

668
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: You know, as we talked about this summer, I didn't

669
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: have been or a hunt, so I was like, you

670
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: know what, you just have to suck it up and

671
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: figure it out and knock on a bunch of doors

672
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: and um, you know, see if you can go into

673
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: a state like Iowa where you know, what's funny, when

674
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of people, they think that

675
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: in Iowa you have to either be with an outfitter

676
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: or you need a lease or something like that, Like

677
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: there's no way you can get onto ground unless you're

678
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: hunting public or pay a bunch of money. Um, there's

679
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people assume that, Um, at least to

680
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: get a shot out of good buck. And you know,

681
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy. It was pretty fulfilled with the fact

682
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: that I didn't have any of that. You know, I

683
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: just found properties knocked on fifteen doors and one day

684
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: and got access to a couple of spots. And even

685
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: though those couple of spots had a bunch of other

686
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: hunters on them, I still was able to find a

687
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: lot of good number of mature bucks and I had opportunities. Um,

688
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: it would have been really fulfilling if I could have

689
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: closed the deal a couple you know, one yard closer,

690
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: a couple of things like that, if it would have

691
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: come together. Um, but still it's pretty cool. One of

692
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: my favorite things is just looking back on UM it's

693
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: interesting because it's one of my favorite things and one

694
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: of my least favorite things, and that looking back now,

695
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of things I wish I had done

696
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: differently during the season, um, but it's still pretty fulfilling

697
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: to see how close I was able to come. Um,

698
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, I practiced what I

699
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: preached there at least in one case, and that I

700
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: went out there and pushed my comfort zone a little

701
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: bit and it paid off. So that was fun. That

702
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: was cool. Um. Yeah, I think those are a couple

703
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: of things that I that I enjoyed about this season.

704
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: Seeing those things come together. Um, last night was a

705
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: lot of fun too, you know, just focusing on you

706
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: know here I'm rambling, but when one of the nice

707
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: things about my Michigan season was that I killed that

708
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: buck opening day in Michigan. And of all the places

709
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: I hunt, I'm the most o c D about Michigan.

710
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm obsessive, compulsive about everything here on my

711
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Michigan properties because I just think you have to be.

712
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: These deer are so they're strung so tight, there's so

713
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: much pressure. Um that I'm constantly, constantly stressed where I'm

714
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: hunting in Michigan when I'm trying to shoot a mature

715
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: buck because I know, if I make one mistake, that's it.

716
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: Um So it was nice this year is I killed

717
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: my buck the very first night, and then I decided

718
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: after that I wasn't gonna take any other bucks off

719
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: this main section. Um So because of that, it just

720
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: took a ton of stress off of my plate for

721
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the season in Michigan. And I was like,

722
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna enjoy it, and I'm

723
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna try shoot some doughs and see some of these

724
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: bucks and have fun with that. And um that was

725
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: just a lot of fun just focusing on dough hunting

726
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: and you know, hoping to see some of these bucks.

727
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: It was just fun to not have that stress. I

728
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: love the challenge in the stress of hunting mature bucks,

729
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: but every once in a while it's nice just to

730
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: kick back and and just enjoy a sitting a tree.

731
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: And I was able to do that a lot this year,

732
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: um which was which was pretty cool. Yeah, I agree.

733
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I I was able to do a lot of enjoying myself. Yeah,

734
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: So what do you think you're doing different next year?

735
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Do you do you have any thought to that all? Yet?

736
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny because I've been doing a lot

737
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: of thinking of next year already. I mean, I'm already

738
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: looking at you know, jungling ideas. I don't know what's

739
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: going to happen yet, but uh, you know, some form

740
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: of a Western hunt, whether it's elk again, or it's

741
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: I go back to Nebraska, or you know, just you

742
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: know that thoughts in my head. I'm looking at maps already,

743
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: looking at hunting zones and stuff like that. It's that's right,

744
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: that's right. Um. I'm looking for word to getting out,

745
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: putting the boots on the ground to some of these

746
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: new pieces that I haven't had time to properly scout

747
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: during shed hunting season. And I'm just looking forward to

748
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: starting again. And I think what we we all find

749
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: out is we don't ever stop. So it's not like

750
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: we're ever starting again. We just keep going. And that's

751
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: what I love about this whole, you know, these white tails,

752
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: is just there's always something to do, and there's always

753
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's a continue it's a

754
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: continuous motion of love that I have for the sport.

755
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I am like

756
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: this year more than ever. I just felt full of

757
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: happiness for bow hunting and white tails and even even

758
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: going out and doing our our l khunt this year

759
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: and sitting in a tent for while it rained on

760
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: us all all week. Basically, that to me was fun

761
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: and I loved it. A lot of good memories look

762
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: back on that for sure. What are you looking forward to? Uh?

763
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: You know what am I looking forward to? Or what

764
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: am I planning doing differently? Um? Any any you answer

765
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: it how you want, it's your show. Well, uh, what

766
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: are you gonna do differently? First? So, so I have

767
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: been thinking about that other than grabbing a mountain bike, right,

768
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 1: grabbing a mountain bike and use that. Um. And then

769
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: back to something I talked about a little earlier ago,

770
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: the knocking on doors. I'm gonna knock out more doors. Um,

771
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I just man, I think there's almost nothing there's There's

772
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: just a couple of things maybe that are more important

773
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: than getting access to a lot of quality places. Um,

774
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't there's fewth I mean you can you can

775
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: make a lot of mistakes if you have enough of

776
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the right places, versus if you only have one spot

777
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: where you know you're stuck with what you got. It's

778
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: really nice to have options and um in Iowa. Even

779
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: though I did get permission on a on a big piece.

780
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: It was one of those situations where I wish I

781
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: had gotten some other spots, or I wish I'd had

782
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: more time to look at my spots, or I wish

783
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: i'd you know, invested more energy in getting to know

784
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: my secondary spots. Um. It was you know, as crunch

785
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: for time. Um. But this year, I really want to

786
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: get access to more places. Both well, I can't hunt

787
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Iowa next year, so that'll be for two years from now.

788
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: But next time I go to Iowa, I'm going to

789
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: do what I did this year times like three. I'm

790
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna get more access and I'm gonna get out there

791
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: earlier so I can really scout all these spots um

792
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: and have a better game plan for how to deal

793
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: with all those additional people. UM. And then in Ohio

794
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: and Michigan, where i've kind of i've kind of um

795
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: relied on a couple main properties the last past couple

796
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: of years because there's been you know, I know them,

797
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: there's pretty decent quality deer. My lease in Ohio has

798
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: been great, um, But I wanna, you know, be prepared

799
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: for the worst case scenario. You never know, you might

800
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: lead access to a spot or something bad might happen,

801
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: like in your case where you know logging, you know,

802
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: big timber up street operation comes through. So this year,

803
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I definitely just want to make sure that property access

804
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: is not something I ever have to worry about. UM,

805
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: I just want to know I've got spots, I've got

806
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: quality spots, and I can I can move to where

807
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I need to move, I can adjust how I need

808
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: to adjust. I don't want to be stuck. So that's

809
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: one thing for sure I want to do differently. Um.

810
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, as to what I'm what I'm looking forward

811
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: to the most, there's a lot of things I'm looking

812
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: forward to. Um, gosh, I don't know. I think it's

813
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: just I think, you know, you know. One of the

814
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: things I am looking forward to the very most is

815
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Michigan next year. Surprisingly and that there was a buck

816
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: this year. Um that I saw a lot, got a

817
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: lot of trialcamera pictures of him. Saw him a couple

818
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: of nights before the opening day. Um before I shot

819
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: the buck, I did, And I believe knock on Wood

820
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: as of pretty recently he's still alive and I passed

821
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: on him. Um, he was a really nice eight point,

822
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: like a really good quality eight point for here in Michigan.

823
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: Three year old and um, since I killed a buck

824
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: earlier this season and I talked, we talked about this,

825
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I think in November or something. UM. I saw him

826
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: in laid October, had him come right by the stand,

827
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: and I passed on him because you know, I didn't

828
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: need to take another three year old off this property.

829
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: I really wanted to see this year make it to four,

830
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: which is something that I have not had the luxury

831
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: to do that before in Michigan. I've never passed the

832
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: three year old in Michigan because you don't get a

833
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 1: whole lot of opportunities. So I did that this year,

834
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: and so I'm really, really really hoping that he makes it. UM.

835
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think he's still alive as of now.

836
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: I saw him oh ten days ago, I think. UM.

837
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: I haven't checked cameras at all the last couple to

838
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: three weeks, so I haven't checked those at all. But

839
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: if he makes it, he's just gonna be an awesome

840
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: four year old. UM. I've seen him many times, have

841
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: got tons of pictures, So that would be really cool

842
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: to be able to get that buck back in two

843
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen into to learn that deer even more

844
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: and hopefully get a shot at him. That'd be cool.

845
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. Um. Isn't that a

846
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: good feeling? Though? Like I've passed dear before that I've

847
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: had encounters with. You know, it's like one of those bucks.

848
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, man, do I shoot him? Do I

849
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: shoot him? And then you talk yourself out of shooting him,

850
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: and you're glad because the next year they blow up.

851
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to me, that's an awesome feeling. Yeah, I agree, um.

852
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: And and even if they don't blow up, even if

853
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: they stay the same, it's just cool to to be

854
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: able to look back on those encounters. I think one

855
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about some of the deer I've

856
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: been able to kill recently, it's just like there's not

857
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, I've been really fortunate this has been the case.

858
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: But I look back on my wall and I look

859
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: at these deer, and it's not like I have five

860
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: seconds of encounter of this deer and that's all it was.

861
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: I looked back at one of these deer and I

862
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: can think of hours of watching these deer and hundreds

863
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: and hundreds of pictures of looking at his deer, and

864
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: and so many nights I walked out of the stand

865
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: thinking about that deer, wondering is tonight the night, and

866
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: you know, it becomes a huge I don't know what.

867
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I say sometimes it's

868
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: almost a relationship in some kind of strange way. But

869
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: it's so cool to have that with these deer. Um.

870
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna continue, you know, as as I know

871
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: you did too, passing on Sibody's dear to to afford

872
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Um, because that makes uh, that makes the

873
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: hunt deep and interesting and profound in a different way.

874
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty neat, That's right. So I'm excited about it. Um. Goal.

875
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm thinking about my own goals

876
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: for next year. UM, I'm not seeing anything too terribly

877
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: different right off the outside. I haven't done some any

878
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: deep thinking about my goals for next year. But you

879
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: know a big one is going to be hopefully getting

880
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: after that four year old here in Michigan. Um, it'll

881
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see who made it in Ohio.

882
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: I haven't been down to Ohio since early November, haven't

883
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: checked camera since early November. Um, I just you know,

884
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: since I felt my tag, I haven't had a reason

885
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: to go down there, and my buddy Josh hasn't been

886
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: able to go. So you know, there could be a

887
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: couple of giants still running around down there that would

888
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: be excited about JJ made it to next year. That'd

889
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: be three years going after him, So that'd be pretty neat. Um.

890
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be continuing to try to

891
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: learn and apply these things that we've you know, learned

892
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Um. If there's anything that's

893
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: been super cool, and I know you've been seeing the

894
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: same thing, it's hearing from so many different people that

895
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: listen to this show that are that's changing. It's changing

896
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: everything for them, and it's changed stuff for you and me. Um.

897
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: But I think I think what's been neat about this

898
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: podcast nothing. I don't Well, maybe you and me help

899
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't. I don't think we're

900
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: really helping that much. I think it's more so the

901
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: fact that when we get some of these guys and

902
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: girls on the show that are so experienced and have

903
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: been through so many different things. When you get to

904
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: sit and talk to someone for an hour. The way

905
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: we're blessed to be able to do the things you

906
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: can learn. It's just night and day compared to trying

907
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: to read an article from a guy once or hearing

908
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: a guy talk you know, twenty seconds of advice over

909
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: the course of his twenty two minute TV show. Um,

910
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: it's it's very very unique to what's available out there,

911
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: and I've been able to learn so much. So it's

912
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: just been awesome to see those things I've learned payoff.

913
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: And I'm just stoked to see how much more you know,

914
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: that can happen next year. Um, for for myself and

915
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I think for you probably and for our listeners to

916
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: that that is a goal. I just want to see

917
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: that happen more and more. It's pretty rewarding to to

918
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: get an email, and like you said, it's not it's

919
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: not really us giving the advice really, you know, we're

920
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: just sharing stories, just like our guests are sharing stories,

921
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: and and they're learning the same way that we all learn,

922
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: trial and error, and and seeing pictures that say, hey,

923
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: do the Wired to Help podcast of the guests did

924
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: I did this and this and this and this is

925
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: the buck I got. That's awesome. Yeah, that that that's

926
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: as good as it gets. I mean seeing that and

927
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: seeing you know people right, you know, which we appreciate

928
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: such positive reviews, you know, sharing their experiences and how

929
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: this has helped and whether helped them kill a deer

930
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: or helped them pass the day at work, um or

931
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: in a long drive. It makes what we've been doing here,

932
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, worthwhile. So and it's it's

933
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: been fun. It's been cool to see the podcast growth

934
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: this year. It's been cool to see, you know, our

935
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: our hunting experiences pan out the way they did in

936
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: some cases. Um Man. I just hope we can keep

937
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: it on, keep on keeping on. Two thousand and sixteen,

938
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: what's your what's your prediction today? I want to know,

939
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: will you break your couple of years streak here and

940
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: shoot the jumbo buck next year? Is it gonna happen?

941
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, we have to build

942
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: a little suspense. Here be four. Dan gives us this

943
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: prediction for two thousand sixteen. We'd need to take a

944
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsors of this episode,

945
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946
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,279
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947
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Speaker 1: Redneck box and hay Bailed blinds for several years now,

948
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: and recently Taylor shared with me a few thoughts on

949
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: how redneck blinds have changed how she hunts. So here's Taylor. Well, basically,

950
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: for UM, since it's my husband and I both hunting together, UM,

951
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: you really want to blind that's comfortable for two people.

952
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: And because we film, you know, you have a camera

953
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and all the extra equipment that goes along with the hunting. Um,

954
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: a redneck blind really gives you that comfort and uh,

955
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: that room to move around in different situations that happens

956
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: during a hunt. Everything happens so quickly. You have to

957
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: be able to adjust and adapt to, ah, whatever comes about.

958
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: And a redneck blind really gives you that and it

959
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: keeps you out of the elements. Um, you know, and

960
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: being sent free is really part of the game. And UM,

961
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: redneck blinds has really really helped us in every aspect

962
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: there is, UM with hunting. And have you had any

963
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: uh any recent success from your hay bail blind or

964
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: any other rednecks? Um? Yeah, you know, we started using

965
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: hay Bill blinds UM in two thousand thirteen, and UM,

966
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I've shot a Muggleloader Buck um early Muggleloader Buck out

967
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: of the blind both years. So um, it's given us

968
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: a really great success. So if you are interested in

969
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: trying out a Redneck blind of your own, we do

970
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,879
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971
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this when this actually comes out,

972
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: which is near the two thousand and fifteen, you still

973
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: have time to actually get two hundred dollars off of

974
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,800
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975
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,239
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976
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,840
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977
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978
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979
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980
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981
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: definitely check it out. I think it'll be pretty happy

982
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: with it. Now let's get back to dan Is. He

983
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: tells us how he thinks his two thousand and sixteen

984
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: white tail season is going to go well. Jumbo buck

985
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe not, but mature buck, yes, I will kill a

986
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: mature buck next year. A little boy, I'm gonna hold

987
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: you to it. All right you uh yeah, yeah, I'm

988
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about next year. Um, if I can

989
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: follow through on the things I just talked about, which

990
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: which I'm gonna force myself to do. Sometimes I struggle, man,

991
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just get caught up with life and you

992
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: don't do this stuff you know you should do. But

993
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: it's for me at least, it's like just bugging myself

994
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: internally until I do it. Even when I'm getting ladies

995
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: or busy. You just have to put in the work.

996
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm confident that I will eventually that I'll

997
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: that I'll do the stuff I know I have to

998
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: do to make next year success. So I think I'll

999
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: at least get I think I'll at least get one

1000
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: next year, Um god willing to, I don't. I don't

1001
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: know if I'll pull off a double like I did

1002
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: this year. That's that's for me. It hasn't been an

1003
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: easy task to do. I gotta favre at where I

1004
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: can't talk where else. I'm very fired up. I gotta

1005
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: figure out where else I'm going to hunt next year. Um,

1006
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: because I can't get in Iowa tags, so I need

1007
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: to figure out my third state, which is up in there,

1008
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I thought about, you know, going back to one of

1009
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: the old faithful's here close to home, Indiana or Illinois.

1010
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: And then I also thought, like, maybe do something crazy

1011
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: and like do a trip way far away to like

1012
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: Wyoming or North Dakota, like just try something totally different

1013
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: wing it. Just go hunt public land camp for two

1014
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: weeks or I don't know, make an adventure of it.

1015
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: So that's something I thought about two beans man, so

1016
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: we'll see. UM one other interesting thing really fast. I

1017
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: was just thinking, Um, we had a challenge episode earlier

1018
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: this year where we where we challenge each other to

1019
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: do some things, and I've just been thinking here, I

1020
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: think I think I've completed my two challenges. One of

1021
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: them you told me to hunt morrings, and I did

1022
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: that in Iowa. Good bit in October. Didn't pan out,

1023
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: but I tried it. And then the other one was

1024
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: to be more mobile. Um you talked about you know,

1025
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: running and gunning and trying some of those things, and

1026
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: I did that more than I've ever done that. UM.

1027
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: In Iowa two, I was forced to do a lot

1028
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: of hanging hunts since his new properties, So I'm feeling

1029
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: pretty good about that. Didn't didn't pan out quite but

1030
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: being mobile definitely helped me almost get done. Iowa, Um,

1031
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: do you remember what I challenged you to do? Yep?

1032
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: It was hunt all day long. Ah yeah, and you

1033
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: did that right. No, I did not do that shoot well.

1034
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I had. There were three

1035
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: days where I had packed lunches and sodas and everything

1036
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: for an entire set. And I'll tell you exactly what

1037
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: those three days were. First day, after the loggers went through,

1038
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: a guy hundred yards from me starts chainsaw on. Remember

1039
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: that one tree tops done. Next the next one was

1040
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: down at my buddiest acres. I was gonna on this

1041
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: awesome wind I had. Finally, one day, the wind was

1042
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: blowing from the tops all the way down out into

1043
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: this field. Neighbor starts burning leaves, blows the smokes coming

1044
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: right down this draw right into my stand. They're out

1045
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: there with their dogs. I leave. Third one was the

1046
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: third one was at my buddies place. Again, one of

1047
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: the last days I was able to hunt of the

1048
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: rut before I had to go back to work. And

1049
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: a guy started working in a shop grinding on metal.

1050
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: And that those three days we're all ruined by outside motivators.

1051
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: I guess, man, so I goes sometimes that's how it goes.

1052
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: I still I still owe you, and all day said though,

1053
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it to it. All right, Yeah, I

1054
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: want to give you one more channels for Okay, what's that?

1055
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, like, you need one more

1056
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: challenge given kids and work and all that. I want

1057
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: you to carryous cinder block into the woods with you.

1058
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: You could do it. Um. I want you to get

1059
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Speaker 1: permission on a property that's good for late season hunting.

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Speaker 1: Good season. Yeah. I want you to have a good

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Speaker 1: late season next year because the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: now various things. I know you've been busy with different

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00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: things going on, but you've been kind of stuck with

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: tough spots for late season. I want you to find

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: an awesome spot for next season and and and have

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Speaker 1: it so that you know when your rut hunt is done,

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Speaker 1: that's not the end of your season. I'd be pretty

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Speaker 1: pumped for you if if you know in December you

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Speaker 1: were still excited to That's what I'd like to see.

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Speaker 1: So that's my challenge for you. All right, Well, challenge

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Speaker 1: challenge accepted. All right, cool man, Well it's been a

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Speaker 1: good year, my friend, and I think and I think

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Speaker 1: with that we can we can wrap it up. And

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Speaker 1: we've got one more piece of good news for the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Dan, do you know what that is?

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Speaker 1: Your wife is pregnant? Now, Okay, although that that would

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Speaker 1: be that would be good news, would be it would

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Speaker 1: be scary news from my hunting maybe, but would be

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Speaker 1: good news. Know that. The good news is that we

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Speaker 1: are announcing the winners of the Wired Hunt Holiday Sweepstakes.

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00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big, big deal, big deal here. So lots

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00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: of people entered. Thank you all for entering. That's awesome. Um,

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully all of you listen to podcast number eighty

1084
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: three where we gave out the code words for it

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00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: and I think that was a podcast while we're listening

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00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: listening to Mr Shane Mahoney, right, that was a good one. UM.

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Speaker 1: So the winners I'm going to announce right now, and

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Speaker 1: if you are one of the three people I announce,

1089
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: will be emailing you, uh to get in touch and

1090
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Speaker 1: get your address information so we can send you your prizes. Um.

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Speaker 1: But third place winner, who wins a Wired Hunt T

1092
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: shirt and hat is Jordan's Duncan. Jordan Duncan you're gonna

1093
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: win a Wired to Hunt hat and T shirt. Second

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: place wins a Sick of Gear Fanatic and no sorry,

1095
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: a Sick of Gear Fanatic beanie and a shack it

1096
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: that's like the insulated shirt jacket which product. Yeah, I've

1097
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: been I've been wearing it almost the entire season. So

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Speaker 1: the winner of the shack it and the beanie is

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Dan Kroud Cremer. Crowd cremer, I think is how I

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Speaker 1: say it, Dan, You're the big winner. Uh. And first

1101
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: place wins a bear archery Arena thirty bow. It's a

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00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: pretty slick rig. The brand new bow goes to Matthew Lamey.

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00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: Matthew Lamy or lammy. Yeah those are those. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: those were horrible? Was that like the crowd cheering crowd? Yeah, growduating,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was Okay, I'll give you a

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: C C minus on that one. Dan, Hey, so I

1107
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: got through college. So Jordan's Dan and Matt thanks for entering.

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Speaker 1: We'll email you and get you your prizes here shortly.

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Speaker 1: And thanks everyone else for joining. Two um final other

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Speaker 1: really quick updates. If you've been enjoying this show this year,

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Speaker 1: we would really appreciate it if you could leave a

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: rating or review on iTunes. It's such a huge help.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that. Thanks also for checking out

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Speaker 1: our other two podcasts, the White Tailed Q and A

1115
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: podcast and Dan's nine Finger Chronicles podcast. Definitely check those out. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't win the holiday sweep sticks, but you

1117
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: do want some Weird Hunt gear, you can get that

1118
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: at weird hunt dot com slash shop. And finally, we'd

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Speaker 1: like to thank our partners who have made this podcast

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Speaker 1: possible in two thousand fifteen. Takes a lot of time, energy,

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Speaker 1: and uh and money actually to pay for this podcast

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Speaker 1: hosting and all the different things going on, so we

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Speaker 1: couldn't do it without Sick of Gear especially, and then

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Speaker 1: also Trophy Ridge, Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds, Huntera, maps, Ozonics,

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Speaker 1: Carbon Express, Lacrosse Boots, and the White Tail Institute of

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Speaker 1: North America. So thank you to all of them, and finally,

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Speaker 1: thank you to all of you for joining us here

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Speaker 1: today and all of two thousand fifteen. You guys are awesome.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. It's been it's been a privilege to

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Speaker 1: be able to chat with you once a week about

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Speaker 1: deer and and hopefully it's been helpful. So happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: Stay Award to Hunt and we will talk to you

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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen