WEBVTT - Mick Shots: In Depth On Aldon Smith 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:20.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.200 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.920 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:37.360 and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.080 of Mick Shots. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls, and 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.760 we will have a special gas coming later in the 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.800 show as there's so much to get to with these 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:52.680 Dallas Cowboys. On a Thursday, May twenty eighth, twenty twenty 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.800 and if my calculations are correct, it's day number seventy seven. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:04.680 Now day number Jim, let me write down seventy seven, Okay, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.279 a seventy seven and there are less than seventy seven 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.000 days before we're headed to training camp in Oxnard, California. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.199 I haven't done the math on that. Let's see twenty 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.240 two and they're fifty three about We're about fifty seven 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.720 days away from living on a jet plane for Oxnard, California. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.840 Doctor Fauci, what do you have to say about that? 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.520 He is way too happy. He is way way too happy. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.560 I'm just I don't know what's going on with him 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.640 this morning. He took a shower this morning. Now he's 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.760 all bright and bushy tail. I'll look at you, Bill, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:45.760 you look great man. That's exactly right. But Micky, we 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:59.600 got so much to get to Mike mc Mike mccarthurw 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.680 with a car Prince call yesterday and were re established 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:07.280 communication with Mickey spagnolan in a second Everson and so 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.840 he talked with the media for oh, pretty much twenty 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.280 five minutes or so. I didn't put a clock on it, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.560 but there were a lot of things that he went 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.000 over as far as how he is handling things and 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:23.640 how the team is their virtual offseason talked about Alden Smiths, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.000 by the way, coming up a little bit later. It 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.720 will be the agent for Alden Smith, Ron Slaven, who 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.880 will join us and talk about how things are going. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.880 As Alden Smith joined the virtual offseason program on Tuesday. Mickey, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.359 understand you are back. I am back. I'm not frozen anymore. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.200 But yeah, you're exactly right. Things really kind of moving 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.640 along this week with some of the other teams opening 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.959 up their facilities to just a certain amount of people, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:56.760 the Cowboys doing that, and then the NFL owners having 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.800 their meetings today virtually of course, and also voting on 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.799 a couple proposals, so we can also get to that. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.760 And you know, I thought Mike McCarthy was pretty good 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.560 yesterday talking about the different things. And I'm not sure 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.840 we all really realize that he went back to Green 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:20.959 Bay after the shutdown, and basically he's been doing all 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.520 the stuff with the team virtually from Green Bay, all 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.000 the meetings, the teachings they were having, he was at 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.680 his house and as he said, you know, he's anxious 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.480 to get back, and he felt like his family was 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.200 anxious for him to get back and get out of 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.280 the house. So the little levity there from him, but yeah, 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.480 you know, they're moving along doing the best you can. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.160 It's a tough thing for teams that don't have new 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.440 head coaches, but regardless, everybody's kind of in the same 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.800 boat trying to get prepared for a season. There's got 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.240 to be a little strange. You know, your coach is 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.240 not at the facility. That's a little bit unusual. I 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:04.760 didn't know he had gone back to Green Bay as 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.360 well as facts. That's kind of unusual when you're talking 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.960 about getting prepared for meeting your team, working with your 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.320 team and to do that virtually. I did read a 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.480 quote where he said that it is affecting their preparedness 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.960 because you just really can't do the same things while 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.560 I'm in Green Bay. The players are here, we're not 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:32.279 even practicing. We can't even meet really, not in a regular, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.600 normal standpoint. I just really think that this is going 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:41.400 to be a challenging thing for McCarthy because this is 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.720 a new team. Now, if he was still with the 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.760 Green Bay Packers, it'd be a totally different thing. He's 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.960 accustomed to the system. He doesn't have to indoctrinate anyone 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.760 at this point. Everything is new, and he's doing it 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.919 from a remote location. It's got to be weird, you know, Emerson, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.760 I heard something really interesting last trunk. Maybe it was 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.599 the end of last week or is the beginning of 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:10.880 this week. I've lost track of time days, but seventy seven, okay, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.400 so I don't know what day. They did the conference 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:18.480 call with Anthony Brown, I mean Xavier Woods, and he 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.000 was they were asking and he got asked about is 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.400 it difficult to learn when you're doing everything virtually? And 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.120 he goes, you know, it's different, he goes, but it's 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.760 almost like being back in college. He goes, I took 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.640 online courses and that's how we learned it was online. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.240 So he goes, this is kind of the same, Uh, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.680 you know, paying attention when you're online to listen to 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.080 a professor. So for some of the younger guys, they 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.400 might understand this better than you know, what we do 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.200 because they kind of were used to that in college. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.800 So yeah, it's different, but everybody again is in the 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.120 same boat. The problem is, yeah, he still hasn't had 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.920 face to face meeting with all ninety guys on the roster, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.120 and as he pointed out, with whatever he's using zooming 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:13.880 to stream or whatever, that you can't get ninety faces 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.800 on the screen at the same time. So that's kind 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.520 of the biggest difference, and just the personal contact you 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.440 have with the players. So what you're saying, Mickey is 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.600 the Johnny Manzil was a trend setter as far as 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.520 college athletes are concerned, and now everybody takes all their classes. Yeah, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.640 he'd he'd fit in real good now going to summer 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.680 school or finishing out the semester, right, because that's what 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.720 most everybody had to do. The high school kids, elementary 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.440 school and who knows. You know, you may end up 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.240 doing that on a temporary basis when everybody goes back 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.719 to school in the fall. You know, I've read different 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.880 things about come on, doctor Fauci, we're gonna be back 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.960 in cle everybody right, going two days and some going 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:08.159 three days alternating next week. All of these, all of 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.880 these colleges are turning into the University of Phoenix. That's 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.720 right here. How much is University of Phoenix is going 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.680 to benefit from this stuff? All right? Let's about as 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.920 far as Dak Prescott is concerned, Mickey, Because back in April, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.920 when Mike McCarthy met with the media, of course he 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.240 was he was not going to say one way or 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.960 the other whether Dak Prescott was participating in the virtual 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.280 off season. He as much as alluded to it yesterday, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.160 didn't come right out and say it. But when asked 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.400 about Dak Prescott, I don't think he was asked point 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.440 blank about whether Dak is involved in the virtual off Season, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.080 But he said that it's a business situation that Dak 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.920 is going through right now. There is communication and it's 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.920 something that they'll just have to deal with, and but 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.840 he doesn't believe it will be set back any Yeah, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.680 and you know you would like certainly like your quarterback 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.360 taking partner in anything. I still don't understand, you know why. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.080 It's not it's not creating any leverage. It certainly hasn't affected, uh, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.440 the negotiations one way or another. I mean again, you know, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.840 you roll out of bed. You don't even have to 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.920 put a T shirt on to join the meeting, right, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.360 don't have to comb your hair, you know, take a shower. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.800 It's pretty simple. It's not like asking a lot. So 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:34.640 that again does Yeah, everybody I know, and I understand agents, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.520 and you know they it's his their their client and 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.080 telling them what to do. But to me, it doesn't 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.400 make any sense whatsoever. That's always been the move. Though 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.320 nothing's different here just because it's virtual. It's not going 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.280 to make a difference to the player or to the 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.840 agent themselves. They're still trying to take their stand and 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.520 they're trying to show that they have resolved and that Okay, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.560 as long as we're gonna have these issues and this 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.959 is going to be dragged out the way it is, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.280 then this is gonna be my punishment to you. Uh, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.680 you know, that's just that's just the way it is 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.880 I don't think at this point it's extremely urgent. I 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.400 don't know how much they're changing up the offensive game 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.960 playing spans. You might know more than I would, but uh, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:20.960 you know, when you come off of a season like 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.640 Dak had, you know, all mistakes and bad games aside. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.080 You're talking about a guy who had a premier year, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.319 and uh, I would imagine he's thinking, I've been out 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.720 there practicing with dead Bryant, so I'm ready, you know. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 You know. My thought on that though, is if what 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.600 if I have to you know, what if we don't 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.600 get a long term deal done and I got to 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.360 play on the franchise tag. Well, if I'm playing on 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.520 the franchise tag, boy, I want to have the best 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.080 year I've ever had, and I want to be totally 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.520 prepared because I don't want to have a down year. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.480 And then I'm either you know, trying to get the 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.280 second franchise tag or they say, you know, don't know 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.360 that we need this guy. I would and that's far fetched, right, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.320 I understand, of course. But if you're you know, maybe 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.560 you do this if you're a quarterback, but say you're 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.400 I don't know, an offensive lineman or a cornerback, or 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.320 I would want to have the best year I could 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.280 have to market myself just in case I had to 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.520 go into free agency. I'm sure now as now I'm 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 speaking as a player. When you're talking as a player 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.439 and you come off the year that he just had. Now, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.320 team wise, of course, that was a lot of things 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.800 left on the table, but as far as his own 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.760 individual year, I think he's feeling pretty good about himself. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.520 And you know, just you know, one offseason camp won't 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.000 really make a difference. Hopefully we won't have to deal 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.720 with this the next time around. When is the next 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.760 scheduled virtual offseason camp? Do you know how do they 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.559 do this? You know, we're going to have more than one. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.640 Seems like they could have it every day since we're 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.679 going to the University of Phoenix type of learning. Yeah, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.760 you don't. You don't want to overburden the players now 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.880 in the off season, right, can't taxing them? Right? Plus 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.880 you know, and Bill Bill mentioned you know that everything 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.400 kind of moving forward. So I was going to ask 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.199 mister optimism, So you think the players and coaches will 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.680 be back in the building, say in two weeks the 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.920 middle of June. You know, I'm not so sure. I'm 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.680 not so sure about that. You know, my man Lincoln 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.840 Riley up at Oklahoma, he said that it'd be crazy 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.640 on the college level. It'd be crazy for the student 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.640 athletes to be back on campus as they normally would 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.120 be at the beginning of the summer on June first, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.320 and ou as they're bringing their players back on July first, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.480 even though conferences are now allowing players I believe to 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.720 be back on campus as early as June eighth, summer 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.800 June fifteenth, So in the abundance of caution, they've been 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.360 advised at that particular university by their doctors to bring 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.040 them back as late as possible, Which leads me to 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.079 the question, I don't know that it necessarily matters right 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.760 now outside of yeah, with especially with the Cowboys with 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.160 a new coaching staff, you would like to have some 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.760 hands on time with your players as early as possible, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.439 But Everson as a player has not had an offseason 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:31.520 program hands on on an NFL in an NFL facility. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.240 How much time will these players need to get ready 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.040 for the season. How different will it be from past 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.080 years as far as physically being able to play a 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:45.600 regular season football game in early September. You know, to me, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.240 I think you have to look at veterans versus rookies. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.480 You know, we've signed some very prominent rookies for this 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.600 team through the draft, and if we want these guys 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.679 to be involved in this game, in this team and 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.080 in this season, that we're gonna have to get some 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.160 some of these players a chance to play. So, having 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.040 said that, it's very important at this point when you're 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.800 talking about bringing in Ceedee Lamb, you know, this guy 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.439 has to be ready to go. We're looking at him 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.719 as one of my slot guys. He's gonna have to 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.760 be ready to go. We're looking at the defensive ends 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.520 that we signed, They're gonna have to be ready to go. There. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.319 You've got a because of the free agency and because 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.920 of the draft picks, you're gonna have to have this 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.360 team running on all cylinders if we want to make 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.320 a move that we didn't make last year. Coming off 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.000 of last season was not good. So these players are 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.559 going to have to be really in tune to a 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:43.959 new system, especially defensively the cornerbacks themselves. You know, it's 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.400 about timing when it comes to cornerbacks. You can't just 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.640 get out there and say, well, I've been looking at 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.480 film of myself and now I'm ready to go. No, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.400 you have to go out there and compete against these 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 other players, so you have the time that they need 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.280 to get prepared for the season. Is very precious right 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.360 now and definitely more precious than it has been doing 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.240 other off seasons. But as far as training camp goes, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.679 normal length training camp should be good. Right as far 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.640 as from a nautical nasical standpoint, get ready for the 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.880 season or do they need more time? Now? They're gonna 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.240 need more time. You've got different players, You've got newer 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.840 players coming in. You got even though the veterans that 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.800 came in from Carolina, You've got the free agent signings. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.840 I truly believe they're going to need more time because 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.200 I'm still including this off season as a factor. You 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.520 still have to get some work done in the off 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.800 season as you prepare for the training camp. Right now, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.160 players are they're not like we were a bill. We 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.080 used to come in off season. We didn't do jack. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.120 We came to training camp to get in shape. Right now, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.040 these guys are different. They're in shape all year round. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.080 They are having a bit of a problem doing that 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.720 with the special situation with the disease going to happen, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.200 how do you think the Players Association is going to 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.280 feel because there's an opportunity here. Let's say it all 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.280 clears up and people can be back on campus by 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:15.080 June fifteenth or so in a normal off season, that 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.160 basically is when the off season program is ending June 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.440 fifteenth or twentieth, and then the players have a month 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.960 off before the start of training camp. Yeah. I don't 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.720 know if the league will, if if the teams will 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.160 propose this to the players, But how will the Players 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.200 Union feel about, Okay, going ahead and that last month 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.600 that you're normally off, you're back on campuses and you're 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.280 doing you're doing an off season program, getting set for 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.480 training camp. How will that go over with the players? 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.240 You know? I think the players just wanted to work 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.800 whatever it is. At this point. Everything is so unique 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:52.200 Bill that we're all as players, as the as Players 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.000 Association and management is concerned. We're all trying to make 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.160 it work. Now there is no schedule that we are 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:04.000 accustomed to. Everything has changed, the scheduling for the off 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.160 season has changed. I think there will be a better 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.920 meeting of the minds when it comes to management versus 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.640 the union and how the players want to deal with this. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.640 Uh Now, the only thing that I think would be 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.000 a problem as long as you don't talk about taking 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.720 away some of my money. If you're talking about taking 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.880 away some of my money, yeah we have an issue. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.360 But if we all coming together in a coordinated effort, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.480 I think I think they would they would all meet 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.120 in the middle and they in regard to this this. But 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.840 so you'd be fine with taking away your July beach 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.520 time to get ready for the season. Nobody's going to 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:42.320 the beaches, Bill, Okay, as doctor Foucci, no ones, you 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.480 already had a right. They might. They might go to 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.520 how it looks like we've lost Mickey there Everson. A 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.639 little bit later in the show, we are going to 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.199 in just a moment, we're going to be joined by 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.199 Ron Slaven, the agent for Alden Smith. Will get into that, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.160 but we're also going to get into cornerbacks on this 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.920 team coming up later in the show, and Mickey talked 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.359 about the virtual owners meeting that is going on today 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.639 and the big proposal that is out there. Mickey, I 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.320 understand you're back with us now. The big proposal out 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.720 there is the on side kick alternative, where a team 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.080 can instead run a play a fourth and fifteen play 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.960 from their own twenty five yard line in order to 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.480 keep the football after scoring a touchdown. What do you 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.640 think of it? You know, to me, it's quite intriguing 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.680 that you get that option. I mean, you can still 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.840 on site kick if you want and take your chances 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.280 kicking off from the normal spot, but this kind of 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.080 gives you and you can only do it twice in 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.080 a game, and not in overtime. Uh. And it is 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.040 not a time play. So if you're desperate and you 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.560 think you got a nice fourth and fifteen play, uh, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.120 you know, why not? My? My? What I'm thinking though, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.920 is are the owners gonna do something like this so 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.000 far removed from the tradition of the game to go 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.000 ahead and say, okay, let's try this. Because this is 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.720 sort of an AAF thing. This is sort of an 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.679 XFL thing, And it really does sound like that. Facts, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.400 that's that is an XFL CFL thing, if I've ever 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.280 heard it. I don't know. If I don't even see 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:49.399 the validity of using that form of a special team, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.520 I guess I don't only see the I don't know 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.480 who came up with that. I mean, we could pull 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.960 something else out by butts, I guess, well and just 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.840 come up with something like that. But what what is 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.800 the basis of using that format. Well, here's here's what happened. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.600 They've looked at the last two years since they've changed 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.960 what you can do on kickoffs, like no run up 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.120 where you're kicking from the type of blocking that goes on, 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.520 and they've discovered over the last two seasons only ten 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.359 point two percent of the on side kicks have been recovered, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:27.240 so it's almost like useless. Uh. In twenty eighteen, seven 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:32.400 point seven percent was recovered, and I'm told that from 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:37.480 two thousand and one through twenty seventeen, on side kicks 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.399 were the average of all those years were recovered at 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.240 nineteen point five percent. So it's almost like the on 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:50.840 side kicks it's not working the chances of recovering it. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.840 So that's why they this was proposed. I think it 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.880 was Philadelphia, and I think there was one other team 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:04.720 in the end. Wh Why go to the fourth and fifteen? 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.200 Why go to the Why would that be used because 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.240 the same percentage of success that that part. I don't 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.879 know if they've looked at how many teams have converted 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:20.560 a third and fifteen or a fourth and fifteen. I'm 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:25.600 sure that right. The rewards pretty good. The downside pretty bad, right, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.720 because if nothing else, if you don't convert, you're basically 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.400 saying I'm giving them a field goal. You know, if 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.760 you don't recover ann site kick, well, okay, they're they're 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.359 halfway there. They're probably around the fifty yard line or 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.600 so forty yard line. It's not an automatic field goal attempt. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.760 But this basically is an automatic field goal unless you 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.520 have Brett Maher. That's right. Don't bring that name up again, Bill, dude, 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.720 not bring that name up ever again on this show, please, 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.520 you know. And Patrick, well he can nail that sexty 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.359 yard and said, I'm good. I've got a lot of 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:03.080 fourth and fifteen plays i can complete. That's exactly all right, 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.159 all right? 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