1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit car 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: doctorshow dot com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: latest insights, and be sure to subscribe to the Car 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Doctor YouTube channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Now start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: garage and ready to take your call. Hey, we've got 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: another busy hour. 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: For you this week on the Car Doctor and let's 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: go right to it. Let's get the Joe and Iowa 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: too Dodge pick up a return call from last week. 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Eight five to five to five six zero nine nine 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: zero zero is the phone number, Joe, How can I 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: help you today? 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, afternoon, sir. Hey, So I talked to you 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: about this battery drain on this two thousand and two dodge, 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: and I'm a little confused on how to check it. 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: So I did. I charged the battery in the penalty 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: the two batteries. I got about twelve we'll say, twelve 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: point twenty six volts in the battery. I got the 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: positive lead hooked up to the positive terminal, and then 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm going I'm checking with my multimeter digital molimeter from 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: negative posts to the negative ground cable, and I'm getting 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: a reading of zero four point six or zero point 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: four point seven on the on the two hundred milla 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: milli meter scale. 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: So so you're reading, you're reading four. 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: Amps yeah, dc amps. 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got you've got to and you've got 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: the other battery disconnected. 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: Yep. 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: The other battery is not even in the truck, right, 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: And I got baggies over the leads and stuff. They'm 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: not really touching anything. So I didn't mean millimeters, I 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: mean milli ams on the two hundred Yeah, so on 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: the ten am scale, I don't have zero readings. And 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: then I flipped my lead on the multimeter to the 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: to the two hundred milli AM scale and I'm getting 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: a four point you know, four point sixty four point 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: seven reading between the negative posts and the battery and 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: the ground. 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: So it sounds like it sounds like you're on a 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: scale where that's you're telling me you're reading four milliams. 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm not sure about. I'm on that scale. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: So you know, I think on the ten AM scale, 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: I would assume I'm not sure on that meter, but 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: it's going to pick up a one amp draw or 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: something or up to ten ams. 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. And I've got to tell you, I've 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: never seen it's either amps or million ams. I've never 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: seen it. Break it down. A two hundred million AM 59 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: scale you're telling that, you're telling me it's a it's 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: a two hundred million AM scale on the meter. 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: There's two twices, there's a ten scale, and there's uh, 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: the two hundred milliam scale on the meter. 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's odd. I but from what you're what 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: you're describing to me is you're telling me on a 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: two undred millim scale, I would say you're reading four 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: million ams. 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm wondering too, you know, four point 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: six the lower you know four, I know you. 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Got you got another vehicle, you got another vehicle in 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: the house. 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: Joe, Well I do now, I mean not right, not right, 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: exceptable right, right? 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: But if if you've got another vehicle in the house, 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: why why don't we learn how the meter works on 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: that vehicle? 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: M okay, well I could, I could, I could disconnect, 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: h do the same being disconnected, you know, the negative 78 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: ground and then check it between the post, betvery post 79 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: and the negative ground. But yeah, I know they talked 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: about reading about some meters too. You have to move 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: the descibel point over and if you even if you 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: move it over one to the right, that would be 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: we'll say, you know, for forty one million ams. 84 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: Right, and forty one's acceptable too. 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but four point six milliams that would be 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: way under forty one. Right, So you said, I think 87 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: you set up to fifty millions. 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Fifty milliams is the maximum. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: And then so what I was confused about you'd said 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: in a so this is like an initial reading, and 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: you talked about like a reading over overtie happened, Yeah, 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: over time. So I don't know what you I don't 93 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how you achieved that. I mean, well you're. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: Gonna You're gonna leave it. So if there was a 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: computer on this vehicle, if if there was a draw, 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: so if this was a more computerized vehicle, you might 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: have to wait upwards of forty five minutes to an 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: hour to watch the draw go down as computers clock out, 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: as they time out and turn off. 100 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: So if that's the case, do you have to have 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: like alligator clamps on your on your test or have 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: test leads with alligator clamps and just leave it clamped on? 103 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: Is that what you're what do you? 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: How are you doing this? Aren't you? Aren't you using 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: I think we've got a I think we've got a 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: meter issue here, Joe. Aren't you taking aren't you taking 108 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: your leads and test leads and just clamping them one 109 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: to the negative cable, one to the negative post and 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 2: walking away. 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: No, No, it's an initial reading and the test leads 112 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: are just probes. So I'm just probing one, you know, 113 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: with a sharp probe on the negatives. 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: Then how do you then if there was a computer 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: draw here, and if if you're reading it, you're reading 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: the initial surge. Okay, leave the meter hooked up? And 117 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: walk away, come back after a half hour, or watch 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: the meter. What does it do? 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 5: Okay? 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: So okay, so I need to get some different leads 121 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: and hook it up, leave it hooked up to the 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: negative posts and leave it hooked up to the cabletive cable, 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: correct and check like initial reading and then check a 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: reading after half an hour. 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: Well I don't, I don't. I don't really care what 126 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: the initial reading is. I want to know what it 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: is after after a half hour of sitting. 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: See if it see if it climbs or if it 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: if it reduces. 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm expecting it to go down. Can you put 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: your meter in min max mode? 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about that. I don't know what 133 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: This is just a really cheap meter. 134 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: I think so. 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Twenty dollars meter years ago. 136 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Right, here's an and here's an example where maybe the 137 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: meter you're using isn't worth using. 138 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: It's just that simple. If you're doing any kind of 140 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: electrical testing, and I can't fix that from here, Joe, 141 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: you got to be able to you know, you want 142 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: to do min max, be able to record minimum maximum, 143 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: because sometimes a meter will change. Never mind just doing 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: a millim test. You're doing a voltage test. You know, 145 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: if you're not in min max motor record motor the 146 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: speed of the meter. If that meter is not fast enough, 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna miss half the information. Just because it turns 148 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: on and it's a meter doesn't mean it's a good one. 149 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. 151 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: I do have a battery meter. I just didn't grab it. 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm not that familiar with that other meter, so, but 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: I did check it. I have another twenty dollars Craftsman meters. 154 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: What it is about meters ago? So I checked in 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: with another meter and they're they're about the same, reading 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: the same output of the battery and reading the same 157 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: four point six four point seven on the draw the 158 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: initial draw. 159 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Right, Well, my question, my question is depending upon what 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: scale you're on, and if you're not sure how to 161 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: use the meter, we're taking a guess with this. You 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: could be reading a four am draw. 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think so, because if I put it 164 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: on a ten am scale, I'm not I'm showing zeros. Okay, right, yeah, 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: I put on a leave. 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: It on the ten am scale and open the driver's door. 167 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Does the dome light come on? 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: Well, will it come on? I mean will it? I 169 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: mean you not hook the negative post is and hooked up. 170 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: So you're electrons electrons are sure they are. Electrons are 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: gonna flow through the meter, and you're going to record 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: the current. 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: Well I guess yeah, I guess you're right there. Yeah. 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna you're gonna record the current. Does 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: the meter have circuit protection if you go overload or 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: will it blow the fuse in the meter? What's the 177 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: fuse and the meter rated for? 178 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might just be two ams. I'm not sure it. 179 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: Better be it better be more than that, brother. Yeah, 180 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: if that's listen, If that's if that's a two amp fuse, 181 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: that meter is not suited for automotive use. 182 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I don't really know what, to be 183 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: honest with you, what that with? I just know it 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: says on the tenam scale you can hold them on 185 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: for like thirty six max and base it out. 186 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: Yeah. 187 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: If that's what it says, Joe, throw the meter in 188 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: the garbage. It's trash. I'm being honest, brother. All right, 189 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: you're you're trying to fix something, you might as well. 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: You might as well hit it with a hammer and 191 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: a chisel. I mean you you need a proper meter. 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: I can't stress this enough that if you don't have 193 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: a me, you're using a meter for a non automotive application, 194 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: in an automotive application that doesn't have the proper settings, range, 195 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: fuse protection and capabilities. So there's no point in even 196 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: talking about it. It's just go buy another meter or 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: find one. Use your other meter, take the meter out 198 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: of the box that you don't want to take out, 199 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: and learn how to use it. I'm not scalding you. 200 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying you're you're you're beating your head against 201 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: the wall, and you're just gonna get frustrated. 202 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I can do it. I mean you 203 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: could check this leaving the leads up to and using 204 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: an amp clamp, couldn't you and take an amp rereadings 205 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: that way? 206 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? That's the purpose of the meter. Well, well, oh, 207 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: you mean just as an amp clamp by itself. Well, 208 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: how accurate is your amp clamp? Will your amp clamp 209 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: get down to fifty milliams or less? 210 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: Matt, I think with this othern meter, it's a real 211 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: good it's a real good flukey meter. So I think it's. 212 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: Gonna well, I would look at I would look at 213 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: the range. I've got three clamp on amp clamps of 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: my own, one of them is a fluke, and none 215 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: none of them are accurate enough to do Milliam draw. 216 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: The only way I know to do that is through 217 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: a meter. That's the only way to do it in 218 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: the shop. 219 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: M okay, Okay, Well, I guess I can do some 220 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: more check in and stuff. I mean, it looked like 221 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm okay, but it does lose it lost about a volt, 222 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: we'll say, in a week week's time, just sitting here too. 223 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Battery sicked up. 224 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: Just imagine if you had to imagine if you had 225 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: a meter with a min max record function, you could 226 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: just hook it up, walk away, and the meter would 227 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: show you exactly what it's drawing over a thirty six 228 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: hour period. 229 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but okay, but you said earlier, just get 230 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: some alligator clamps. 231 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: And even if I no, I would not I would 232 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: not use that meter, Joe, I can't say it enough. Okay, 233 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust I wouldn't trust that meter. If the 234 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: meter the meters telling you that you can't leave it 235 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: connected for longer than what thirty seconds. 236 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's only on a ten am that's a ten 237 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: am setting. 238 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: Well, but how do you how do you know what 239 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: your draw is before you hook it up? 240 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, I put it on the ten am scale and 241 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: checked it that way, and when it came up zero, 242 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: I went to a smaller scale. 243 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: Okay, Joe, Joe, get get a different meter. Get something 244 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: that reads amps and milliamps. Forget the scale and get 245 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: something that auto ranges. All right, you'll be better off 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: in the long run. 247 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, I got okay. Well, I want 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: to tell you something else. 249 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Too, well, real quick, because I gotta go. 250 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: I just wanted to tell I told talk to Tom and 251 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: so I liked what you have to say about your 252 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: dad and your your uncle, things like that. It's interesting 253 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: to hear those stories. I just wanted to bring it up. 254 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: And my grandpa had a flight school way back in 255 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: the forties to train pilots prior to going in World 256 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: War Two. He was a flyer from way back in 257 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: the early sent part of the century and his actually 258 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: his flying license numer of them were signed by Orville 259 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: right way back then. They had what they call a 260 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: sporting license. And I just wanted to tell a little 261 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: history on ice oft the family. 262 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: No, wonderful. I appreciate it. I do, Joe, and yeah, 263 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: thank you for sharing that. All right, I got to go. 264 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm up against the clock, kiddo, So let's pull over 265 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: to take a pause. I'm unning any in the car. Doctor. 266 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. Hey, real quick, let's 267 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: go to Alan, Maryland while it's still there and dry al. 268 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: Are you ready for the big storm, the northeaster you're 269 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: gonna get. 270 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, coming if it's not raining yet, but it's going 271 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 6: to be a soaker tomorrow, that for sure. 272 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: Are you on the eastern shore of Maryland or on 273 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: the wad Wow. 274 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 6: I'm south of Washington, d C. But we'll get a 275 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 6: bunch of it. 276 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So so it's a big deal. It's 277 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: the whole East coast. 278 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: It is. 279 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is. 280 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: What's going on? What's going on there? Yes, sir, I. 281 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: Called you a couple of weeks ago about putting a 282 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: clutch in a ninety nine Nissan CenTra. Got a follow 283 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: up question. That's about the transmission fluid. The service manual 284 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 6: calls for eighty W ninety GL four. I can find 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: GL four, but there's a lot more GL five around, 286 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 6: and I've read mixed things about g L four versus 287 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 6: g L five. Predominant theory seems to be if you 288 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 6: use GL five, it's bad for the brass and the 289 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: copper parts. It could lead to hard shifting. What's your 290 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 6: view on that. Is there really a significant difference between them. 291 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: I've never found it to be honest, answer, I see, 292 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: and my understanding is completely opposite of that. My understanding 293 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: is that as they went, you know g L g 294 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: L one, two, three, four, five, so on, that you 295 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: know five four is retroact, if the three five is 296 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: retroactive to five, and so on and so forth, I'd 297 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: like to see authoritative proof. And and the other thing 298 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: you have to think about is and anytime I'm left 299 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: with one of these conditions in the shop, I always 300 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: think of it like this, how many guys in the 301 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: country are pouring the wrong fluid in? 302 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 6: Right? Right? 303 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: Listen? 304 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, the honest way I think about it in my 305 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: head is how many idiots are out there pouring in 306 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: the wrong fluid and the vehicle still doesn't stop. Now 307 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: now having said that, right, my ninety seven Ford Ranger, 308 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: you know what fluid that calls for af right and 309 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: do you know what? Do you know what's in ith? 310 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 6: Not sure? 311 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: GM synchromesh is that right? Yeah? And I only put 312 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: that in twenty years ago. I'm still waiting to see 313 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: if it has any negative results. So you know, Henry 314 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Ford's turning over in his grave. 315 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: All right. 316 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: You know usually usually this stuff is backwards combatible, Yes, 317 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 6: like break fluid dot four supersede. It's always awards compatible. 318 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. 319 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: I keep reading about oh, it's bad for the copper, 320 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 6: and I am okay, all. 321 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: Right, well you know, listen, there are people out there. 322 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a shot at them too, right now. 323 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: There are people out there that think ten thousand mile 324 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: oil change intervals. 325 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 6: Okay, right, Oh, I'm a three thousand mile I'm a 326 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: three thousand mile guy. Yeah, that's why my cars go 327 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 6: a quarter million miles. 328 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: You know, the. 329 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: Trimic, the Trimic five speed that's in the hot rod. 330 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: They want they want automatic transfluid in that. 331 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 332 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some of them that want. 333 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: Right, you know what's in it? GM synchromesh is that right? 334 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm breaking all the rules. I you know, I've yet 335 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: to see it, right, I've yet to see so you're 336 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: telling me that the synchromesh, the sliders and the synchro 337 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: mesh portion of the transmission for that ninety nine is 338 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: different than something newer that you think they change the material. 339 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: They check the chief. 340 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that they you know, but they have a hard 341 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: time getting the same two spark plugs on the shelf 342 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: next to each other correct much less. You know synchro meshes, 343 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: and you know syncros and sliders and and so on, 344 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: and I you know what I think the I think 345 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: the internet's a wonderful place now, but I think it 346 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: puts us into information overload, and I think it's it's 347 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: it's yeah, no good ron. 348 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: Can I ask you one more while I got sure 349 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 6: along the drain plug and the filler plug on this thing. 350 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 6: Although I've got a set of drain plug sockets, they're 351 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 6: still a little buggered up and I'm having trouble getting 352 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: them off the somebody Dorman doesn't make one. They do 353 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: make some, but not for this vehicle. Any source for 354 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 6: drain plugs and filler plugs on a manual transmission. 355 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: No, But I would say anything that works, right, okay, 356 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: I believe it or not. Sometimes I find the goofiest 357 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: things at a plumbing supply house. 358 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the thought. This is eleven millimeters eleven millimeter 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 6: one thirteen, right. 360 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: Man, We don't care about the milimeter. We just want 361 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: the thread pitch, right. 362 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 363 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, have you tried purchasing new 364 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: out of out of Nissan, although I'm sure they're obsolete 365 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: by now? 366 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I went to the Nissan website. They 367 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: don't have a damn thing for this car. Nothing in 368 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 6: the clutch series. The only thing they've got is the 369 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 6: pilot bushing. They got absolutely no clutch parts. I haven't 370 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 6: tried the drain plugs, but I have a hard time 371 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 6: believing they'd have anything. Either it's on a stock or 372 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 6: it's on back order, and back order means you'll die before. 373 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: It arns, right, You'll you'll die like Moses on a statue. 374 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll have three more cars before now. 375 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: Now, you make an interesting point. Dorman does make a 376 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: very good set of drain plugs and assortments. And you know, 377 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: you've got to find an autoparts house that's still got 378 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: the Dorman trays out front and sit down and go 379 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: through their trays and see what's there. But you know, 380 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: Dorman's not the worst idea to go look through either 381 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: their online catalog Dorman Products dot Com or catch them 382 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: up in a store at an autoparts house. So always 383 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: a pleasure Ale Stage. I enjoy the weather, and we'll 384 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: talk to you next time. I'm Ronning Andy and the 385 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Car Doctor. We're coming back right after this. You know, 386 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: with all that's going on today on the show, we 387 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: didn't even talk about First Brands Group, right. First Brands 388 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: Group is in bankruptcy and thanks to Dodge down there 389 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: and lose Maryland, which I understand is gonna be on 390 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: water too. I was watching the news. They're like, I 391 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: think they're lower than sea level row and it's gonna 392 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: be it's gonna be wet, manned the pumps, so Dodge 393 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: stay dry. But we'll talk about that a little bit 394 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: if we have time, but just be aware First Brands 395 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Group is in bankruptcy and that's going to infect the 396 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: entire automotive aftermarket. Yeah, yeah, John, Connecticut twenty two prius, 397 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: What is going on here? How are you? John? 398 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: Thank you for taking my call. There's nothing wrong with that. 399 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: I just wanted to get the It's sixty four thousand 400 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 4: and I was told that's sixty thousand. You should really 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: change the CBT transmission oil. 402 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, yep. 403 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: And it's it's a little bit over and I call 404 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: the guy and he wants to keep it overnight. And 405 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: it's like, I don't have anybody to drive me or 406 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 4: leave it, you know what I mean. It's like you're 407 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: doing maybe want to check it to make sure everything's 408 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: okay the next day. 409 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's it's two hours a time 410 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: in the shop by the time. He wrote, test it. 411 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: Let a cool down, change you drain it, fill it 412 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: back up, you know. So you know it's a it's 413 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: a hey, I drop it off and go go go 414 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: to breakfast and come back in two hours kind of 415 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: a thing. But you know, keeping it overnight, I don't know. 416 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me. I don't It doesn't. 417 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: It doesn't to me either. 418 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's maybe it's time to find another mechanic 419 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: or take it to the dealer. 420 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 4: And my mechanic doesn't do it. And he said he's good, 421 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: So I was like, this is a he just does transmissions, 422 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 423 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, waite, the guy, you're taking it 424 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: too doesn't do it, or the guy you're taking it 425 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: to does. 426 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: I went to a mechanic and they recommended this guy, 427 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: and that's why he does his transmissions. 428 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So so. 429 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just figured if there was some 430 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: reason I didn't think, do. 431 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: Yourself, do yourself a favor. It sounds like you're in 432 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: the clutches of something strange. Take it to the dealer, 433 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: have a nice seat in the waiting room. Sit there, 434 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: have a cup of coffee. They'll tell you exactly how 435 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: much it's going to be beforehand. It'll get done right. 436 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 2: And I really doubt the dealer is going to tell 437 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: you they have to hang on to it overnight. Something 438 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: doesn't add up in that story. 439 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm sorry. 440 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: That's all right. I was going to say when Mom said, 441 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, 442 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: it's a duck. 443 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, well I know, I tell you, I guess 444 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: is the first hybrid I ever had. And I called 445 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: you before. Maybe it was about it a year ago, 446 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: a must or something like that. Maybe it was six 447 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: seven months or something like And I got fifty miles 448 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: per gown. No, I just I got eighty and well 449 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: I got seventy five. I got to go up. I 450 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 4: have to go up at hills, so I could probably 451 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: get about one hundred. If it's like California and Arizona. 452 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 4: You know, right, it's flat, right, But I mean, I 453 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: love the car. It's great because it's got all least 454 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: centers in the backup camera. I never had a less 455 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 4: stuff before. You know, it makes me feel it makes 456 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: me feel confident. 457 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: Well, and you know what, and that's that's that's the 458 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: beauty part of running a vehicle like that, right, that 459 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: it gives you confidence because listen, I go back to 460 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: the time when it was a very mechanical connection to 461 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: the car and we enjoyed sitting behind the wheel and 462 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: we would talk to it. And now it's just you know, 463 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: hope this computer keeps running because I got to get 464 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: to where I'm going. There's no there's no emotion in 465 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: a car. There's no compassion anymore. But I get it 466 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying it, John, 467 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: but I would I you know, listen, a hybrids, a 468 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: hybrid's well, a modern vehicle is a complicated animal. A 469 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: hybrid is a little bit different, and if you're already 470 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: starting to get some pushback on how to service it, 471 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: I you know, something's wrong with this picture. So I 472 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: think it's time to uh, I think it's I think 473 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: it's time to find the dealer or find somebody that 474 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: can repair it on a reliable, regular basis, because I 475 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: want you to find one guy, all right. I want 476 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: I want one person to repair that. Nothing wrong with it, 477 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: all right, sir? 478 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I appreciate. 479 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Have a good weekend you too, you'd be well. Let's 480 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: go over and talk to Let's go to Thomas and Maryland. Thomas. 481 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: Are you in a dry part of Maryland or about 482 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: to be drenched part of Maryland? 483 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: Oh? We could get some wind and rain. I'm on 484 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: the eastern shore, oh boy, between Chesapeake Bay and the Atlantic. 485 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: Ocean, So yeah, we are you buy my favorite bridge, the. 486 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 5: Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love the nineteen 487 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: fifty two. 488 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: I love that bridge all the time. I'm not on it, 489 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: so it's uh so I don't like that bridge. Brothers, Yes, 490 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: you're never going to get me over that. How can 491 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: I help you today? Thomas? 492 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: Okay, I got two vehicles. The first one is a 493 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine Ford F three point fifty super duty 494 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 5: parastroke V eight right seven point three leader. Okay, it's 495 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: got a little in the excess of three hundred thousand miles, 496 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: but it's a diesel. 497 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: No, just broken in, that's right. 498 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 5: But we're having trouble starting it. Usually if we put 499 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: the battery charge or on it overnight, sometimes it will 500 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 5: start the next morning. Sometimes it won't, and that's with 501 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 5: a good battery too. But I was wondering if could 502 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 5: it be a compression problem in one cylinder or something. 503 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's back up a sex. So is it that 504 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: the cranking rpm is faster that it gets it to 505 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: start easier, or it's just that the battery has to 506 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: be strong enough reliably to maintain cranking speed before it fires. 507 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 5: I wish I knew the answer to that. I would 508 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: suspect that it won't start at a lower rpm. So yes, 509 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: probably it needs that extra boost. 510 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, so my first question then would be are you 511 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: sure that the battery set up in there is correct? 512 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: In other words, In other words, a starter is going 513 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: to row what it needs and it has to have 514 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: the reserve capacity to do so. If you're telling me 515 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 2: you have to have the battery on charge. My first 516 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: thought is I've got a problem with the battery or 517 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: the starting system because if it was low compression, it 518 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't need as much electrical energy out of the battery 519 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: to maintain cranking rpm. 520 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: Right, okay, right, but it runs good when after it starts. 521 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 4: They all do. 522 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: So, you know, is it time for do we have 523 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: Now that's an oil fed injector system, meaning that they 524 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: use they use cranking oil pressure to build fuel pressure 525 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: on those engines. You know, do we have an oil issue? 526 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: All? Right? 527 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: Do we have it? Do we have sludge in the oil? 528 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: One of one of the products we use in the 529 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: shop from the folks at Hot Shot Secret stition eliminator, 530 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: And you can take a look at some of their 531 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: other diesel products. Helps clean out, helps clean out sludge, 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: helps clean out sticktion. And I I only learned what 533 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: stiction was within the last two years. It's kind of 534 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: an interesting story, but the whole concept of stiction is 535 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: the sludge and the varnish and the debris and the 536 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: grit that builds up in oil over time. And the engineers, 537 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: the scientists at Hotshot Secret actually developed this product to 538 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: work on that Ford engine that you're driving. Ford actually 539 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: approves stiction eliminator in those engines in the power strokes. 540 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, it's it's it's that big a deal. 541 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: So treating the oil actually helps the fuel system. As 542 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: crazy as it sounds. 543 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 5: What was that product? Gold? 544 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: Go out to the Hotshot Secret website Hotshotsecret dot com 545 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: and take a look at stition eliminator. They also make 546 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: you know what if you're driving a diesel. Hotshot Secret 547 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: dot com is kind of like the candy store, all right. 548 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: It's got everything you need for fuel system maintenance, cleaning injectors, 549 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: cleaning oil, at diesel longevity, you know, just goods, solid maintenance, 550 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: because just doing oil changes and changing filters isn't enough 551 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: on a diesel, especially as they age. 552 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: Right and this gets short miles right right right. 553 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: Can have an effect. I'll tell you what, sit tight, Thomas. 554 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: Let me pull over, take a pause. When we come back, 555 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: we'll answer part two of your question. I'm Ronning Andy 556 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: in the car. Doctor. We'll return right after this, and 557 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: we are back real quick. Dodge rights in from Maryland, 558 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 2: he says, Ron I'm fifteen feet above sea level when 559 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: I drive back to DC. My favorite part is at 560 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Chesapeake Bay Bridge and not me, brother, So God bless 561 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: somebody's got to drive and enjoy that bridge. Thomas, You're 562 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: still there, sir. 563 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 5: Still here, And I was listening to that. You can 564 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: get down here on the shore if you go take 565 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: around forty, go east, do you get to like I 566 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: don't know, Elpton and then pick up two thirteen and 567 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 5: it'll bring you right on down you go around them. 568 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just that bridge. See the problem is I 569 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: think about that bridge, and I keep thinking about when 570 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: you're halfway across, you're seven miles out in the bay 571 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: or ten miles out in the bay. That's a long 572 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: way to swim when the cargoes over the rail. So 573 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: but what the heck, the fall will probably kill me anyway. 574 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: So anyway back to your diesel, and I wanted to 575 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: comment about that. A diesel as it ages, right, we're 576 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: always worried about cranking speed, glow plug efficiency, and fuel 577 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: system and intake cleanliness. Okay, at at three hundred thousand 578 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: miles on a short trip diesel, you were a candidate 579 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: for stiction eliminator one hundred thousand miles ago. If not sooner, 580 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean I would be using it from day one 581 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: if I owned a diesel, okay, because of what it does, 582 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: Diesel Extreme, their Diesel Extreme product is a fuel system 583 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: cleaner and maintainer for diesel. That's specifically what it does. 584 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: So you want to consider that. Last. If you take 585 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: it to a mechanic and you're still having issues after 586 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 2: applying some treatments, then you know they're going to look 587 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: at glow plug. Do all the glow plugs work? And 588 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: how are the injectors? What's the spray pattern? You know, 589 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 2: this is one of those vehicles that you want to start, 590 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: but you don't want to spend a ton of dough 591 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: on it. And the problem is it's a diesel, so 592 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: spending money is very easy, especially as it ages. Right. Absolutely, yeah, 593 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: So second question. 594 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 5: Okay, on two thy and seventeen Duramax Diesel Colorado pickup. 595 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: I'll bought it with ninety one thousand miles. Okay, I've 596 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: got about one hundred and thirteen on it now. Anyhow, 597 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: after overnight setting, first sing in the morning, I try 598 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: to lay it warm up. So what first gear seems 599 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: to slip and then all of a sudden it'll grab. 600 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: My mechanic tells me I'm probably looking at another a 601 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: new transmission or rebuilt one. You can't hardly get a Newton. 602 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: Eight speed, eight speed, ten speed thomassh Which trans is it? 603 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't honestly know that, Okay, but it seems 604 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 5: to be only in that first year that it slips, 605 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: like maybe it has an internal leak because it's not 606 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: leaking external right. 607 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: If you let it warm up, does the problem not happen? 608 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 5: It helps usually after it shifts or you know, you 609 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: come to a light and you go off and once 610 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: in a while and we'll do it the second time 611 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: and the rest of the day. It's fine. 612 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: Ever changed, ever changed the trans fluid? 613 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 5: It's been changed service. We did one hundred thousand miles 614 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: service on it. 615 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: Do you recall what the fluid looked like? Color wise? 616 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: I had it done, so no, I don't. But I 617 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: trusted mechanic because he used to be a General motors 618 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: mechanic and then he opened up his own shop and yeah, 619 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: go ahead, pretty good guy. William says. He was a 620 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 5: kid so mean, I knowing, and I asked him that, 621 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: I said, do I need to go to one of 622 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: these shops that does the fluid exchange? He said, I 623 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: don't think it's gonna help. He said, there's probably something 624 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: called in a vowel, you know, in that first gear, 625 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: in that first clutch pack, right, And because he doesn't 626 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: seem to do it in the other gears, I don't know. 627 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 5: So am I looking at a new transmission? 628 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: I probably to be honest, all right? But before I 629 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: go that route, you know, and I like the way 630 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: he thinks the fact that it only does it in 631 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: first gear. This is this is likely a first gear issue, 632 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: although I would think if it's extreme enough in time, 633 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: you're going to turn on a check engine light instead 634 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: of full first gear ratio and correct performance. Something like that. 635 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: When you're out on the hot Shot Secret website. I'm 636 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: going to come back to them again. Right when you're 637 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: out in hot Shot Secret thought, take a look at 638 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: their shift restore additive all right, it works wonders inside transmissions. 639 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: And I'm of the mind that you know, maybe this 640 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: is an additive fix. It might help. It surely can't hurt. 641 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: And if you know shift restore doesn't do it, then 642 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: you've got then, in my mind, you've got a clear 643 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: cut problem inside the trans whether it's and here's the 644 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: dance right, do you take the trans apart and just 645 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: repair what's bad at one hundred and thirteen thousand miles 646 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: eight years old, or do you put a trans in it? 647 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: You put a trans in it, right, because it's the 648 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: labor to take it apart is kind of silly, so 649 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: you know it's going to be excessive. But that's that's 650 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: how I would approach it. Somebody could diagnose it. Somebody 651 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: could prove, yeah, it's slipping, and here's the percentage, and 652 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: you know you can surely go that route. But you know, 653 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: before I did that, i'd want to know if the 654 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: fluid was clean when you changed it at one hundred, 655 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 2: Is it's still clean or did it turn black? If 656 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: it turned black, something's coming apart. And if it didn't 657 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: turn black and it's still pretty pink and rosy, I 658 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: would try some shift restore from hotshot secret and you know, 659 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: hopefully that helps for you that it's not too far gone, 660 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: that it's able to pull it back and keep it going. 661 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: All right, kiddo, I appreciate that. 662 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 5: Here we're getting down this way. Give me a call. 663 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: I will next next next summer, on the way to 664 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: the outer banks'na, we're gonna have a party going over 665 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: the bridge, so I promised Thomas so and for Dodge 666 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 2: as well. Anyway, let's pull over. Take the pause. I'm 667 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: running inde in the car. Doctor. I'll be back right 668 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: after this. Sorry, I'm back. 669 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 5: Well. 670 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: I was answering a Facebook question. I'm talking to someone 671 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: about he's gotta he's got to he's got an injector 672 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: circuit performance fault. Isn't that where we started this hour 673 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: today or the show today at the beginning of the 674 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: other hour, And he said, but I put an injector 675 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: in it. Okay, what brand? What did it at home? 676 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: What are the rest of them home? Did you you know, 677 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: did you test the circuit from powertrain control module connector 678 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: out to the injector and back? So you know, just 679 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: because you change a part doesn't mean it's right, and 680 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that that's the test. Testing parts is 681 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: not diagnosing testing parts is I'm sorry, changing parts is 682 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: just changing parts. It means you may be fixing it. 683 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: You may be putting a problem back in. You may 684 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: have the same problem. So just know what you're doing 685 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: when you do it very very important and you'll find 686 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: that I can't stress enough. And you're seeing it right. 687 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: You're seeing the effects of poor quality parts on the industry. 688 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: I can't affect. I can't stress it enough. It seems 689 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: like the Amazon parts, the Chinese parts, what I call 690 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: bad Chinese parts, is really affecting the economy and really 691 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: affecting the auto repair industry. First Brands Group made an 692 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: awful lot of parts for this industry, and their bankruptcy 693 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: is going to have some deep, deep effects and we'll 694 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: see just how deep they go in the coming months, 695 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: in the year. So just my observation, and for Dodge, 696 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: I know Dodge wants me to make a comment about 697 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: the economy. I am going to make a comment about 698 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: the economy. I see it slowing down from a repair process. 699 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: People are not fixing their cars as fast as they 700 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: should or were over the last thirty days. And we'll 701 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: see what the next thirty days becomes. But it's interesting 702 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: to see what's going on. Things are slowing down. I'm 703 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: ronning ay in the car doctor until the next time. 704 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you