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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, February fourth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 2: episode number one six. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 3: We in the house.

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Speaker 2: And every but everybody. Everybody's out today, Like we got

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people going to Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and well think about it was all I had was

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Speaker 2: then this morning I was like, oh, man, was still

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Speaker 2: got They're gonna have some fun today, all right, So

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Speaker 2: start we will we will get some point get to

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I want to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and the teams that are in there,

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Speaker 2: and maybe some things that remember some things that the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys should be looking at that those two teams did

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Speaker 2: that could maybe translate to what they got going on

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Speaker 2: over here in Frisco. But we'll get that in the

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Speaker 2: final segment. This first segment, I do want to talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the d defensive coaching staff. Last

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Speaker 2: time we were on the air, they didn't have a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Now they got a defensive coordinator and pretty

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Speaker 2: much an entire staff. Still got some things to work out,

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Speaker 2: I think from a from the linebacker position, but I

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Speaker 2: think overall they have Christian Parker now is their defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Smith's cornerbacks coach, Derek Ainsley is the passing game coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line is going to be run by Marcus Dixon,

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Speaker 2: and yesterday they hire one additional coach. I didn't write

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Speaker 5: Oh soo, he's a Georgia guy.

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Speaker 2: Now the initials, give me, give me the initials, give

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Speaker 2: me c U D. We're just gonna call him could, could, could, could, hoody.

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Speaker 2: I like it. That's like that.

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Speaker 5: Now, former Georgia outside linebackers coach taking on the same

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Speaker 5: role for the Cowboys, and he will be tached with,

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Speaker 5: overseen and developing the ed rushers. When you talk about

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Speaker 5: someone like that of Raku, who had, you know, a

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Speaker 5: up and down season under Matt ebra Flus and didn't

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Speaker 5: develop as much as the Cowboys would have liked to see,

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Speaker 5: but flashed and we know what he can do from

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Speaker 5: his days at Boston College. So excited to see what

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Speaker 5: he can do under to say, Uzo, I call.

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Speaker 6: Him Uzo just because you know Georgia. God, oh my

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Speaker 6: good go.

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Speaker 2: When do you not have on Georgia.

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Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair. So Uzo cutty if you will.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's developed plenty of NFL talent at Georgia.

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Speaker 5: The most notable, most recent is Michael Williams twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: eleventh overall pick, one of the best edge rushers in

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Speaker 5: the entire nation going into last year's draft, and that's

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Speaker 5: what you're getting here. So the Cowboys still need to

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Speaker 5: address the inside linebackers because it looks like even prior

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Speaker 5: to hiring Uzo, none of their position coaching candidates were

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Speaker 5: hints heavily at the change to an odd man front.

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Speaker 5: So we were having this conversation before we went live.

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Speaker 5: There's a good likelihood that you won't see Donovan z

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Speaker 5: to alis side linebackers. But that's what Shadero. Shadero brings

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I love that it's a

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Speaker 5: I mean, they cast an even wider net for this

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Speaker 5: but yeah, things are coming together quickly for Christian Parker staff,

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Speaker 5: and I love that it's being designed the same way

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Speaker 5: Shaddy's offensive unit has been designed. I mean, look at

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Speaker 6: And then look who's coaching tree.

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Speaker 5: He comes from Kirby Smart, which is a disciple of

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Speaker 5: the great Nick Sabans. So yeah, I'm liking what I'm

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Speaker 7: There's some like intentionality with this the entire coaching staff

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Speaker 7: for sure, when you talk about Christian Parker one with

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Speaker 7: But Shadero, he brings a lot of experience from the

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Speaker 7: coaching stuff, from the college rank. You talk about Kansas, SMU, TCU,

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Speaker 7: of course Georgia. But like I mentioned, the intentionalities there.

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Speaker 7: Talk about you know, Donovan Azaraku who has had some

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Speaker 8: Who's probably your best edge rusher.

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Speaker 7: Out of this entire group, out of free agency, it

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Speaker 7: just seems like from last year they're looking at their downfalls.

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Speaker 7: Past rush was a struggle secondary was a struggle, and

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Speaker 3: This is what I love the most. Let me just

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Speaker 3: say this first, I don't know nothing about these people.

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Speaker 3: But I've said earlier on the break, I love that.

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Speaker 3: So when what I've noticed on social media, right, what

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Speaker 3: So he's got to build a staff, right, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: This rising cat, this rising cat, this rising cat. And

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Speaker 3: what this does is is we don't have to go

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Speaker 3: okay if we fire our DC. Paul Gunther got to

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Speaker 3: Now there's another rising up and coming somebody my age

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Speaker 3: that'll go. Man, when Christian Parkern take the Cowboys to

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Speaker 3: we got some up and coming casts that we can

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Speaker 3: oh kan neuity, I love me some con man. You

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Speaker 3: want to build connuity around some nonsense and no direspect. Look,

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Speaker 3: you made your money, bro, you don't working no more.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to build continuity around something that I

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Speaker 3: and lead, we got this other. We got three more

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Speaker 3: people in. Sant Fran does this all the time. Sant

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Speaker 3: Frank does this all the time. Robert Salad leaving, Mekran

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Speaker 3: is coming on. More head coaches leaving. They do it

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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. How many how many

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Speaker 3: and then in the conversation every single year, this may

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Speaker 3: be and boy, this is now. This is where I

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Speaker 3: just said, cowboy super That's what it really started. Caught.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about you. It's worst, this worst watch is already.

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Speaker 3: I think Jerry and company is changing a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think how we orchestrain things kind of changed a little. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: they've talked to what fifteen people so far? I been Jared,

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Speaker 3: I been Jerry on none of them.

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Speaker 5: I bet Jared and and Uzo is thirty three?

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Speaker 2: Can I toepose this this thought on that subject, I

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Speaker 2: really think what's happened. I don't think Jerry has changed

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Speaker 2: Jerry's willing to defer. He's willing to defer to people

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Speaker 2: what has happened is I think last year when he

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Speaker 2: the defensive side. And guess what happened. We saw how

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Speaker 2: many people get interviewed for defensive coordinator. You had all

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Speaker 2: these guys you're bringing in, and like you said, they're

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Speaker 2: a steal. Oh yeah, that dude over that he's a

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Speaker 2: nice young coach. Oh that coach, that coach. And so

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing is they are doing this wide search

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Speaker 2: of who are the best people out there? Like most

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Speaker 2: all in and interview them all and you figure out

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Speaker 2: don't know that Jerry has changed as much. I think

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Speaker 2: Shoddy has come in here and done what a lot

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Speaker 2: of other coaches maybe didn't do well enough perfect.

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Speaker 7: Are y'all shocked that they have given Shody so much

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Speaker 7: free range to kind of bring in because I remember

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Speaker 7: when we were talking about when Shotty first got hired, like,

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Speaker 7: are they going to give shot of the opportunity to

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Speaker 7: Are y'all shocked that now he's finally starting to get that.

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Speaker 7: I guess a coach is starting to get that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hit on nobody because they don't

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Speaker 3: work in them. I just think I just think Shoty

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Speaker 3: I think Mike was just like, hey, man, who have

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Speaker 3: a little more put together that way.

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Speaker 2: He has a vision. He has a vision for what

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Speaker 2: he's building, Like he has been saying, what do you

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Speaker 5: And not to forgive them for it, because I kind

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Speaker 3: What I love about it is that like he just

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Speaker 2: Uh here's're gonna do a player review. We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: through these positions and I want you guys to answer

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Speaker 2: two main questions for me. One, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the past performance? What they did this last year?

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Speaker 2: What you love about the position. It can be about

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Speaker 2: a player, it can be about the position group overall,

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Speaker 2: but what you loved about that position group last year.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start offensive side, so there'll be a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk about. By the time we get the defense,

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Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. But then we'll talk about what

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Speaker 2: is the future.

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Speaker 14: I'm saying like, let's be as a short show real,

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Speaker 14: Let's be real, that's real. On the flip side, Hugue outlook,

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Speaker 14: I want you to talk about moving forward.

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Speaker 2: What is your biggest concern? What do you think about

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Speaker 2: this position? Is it in a good space? Is it

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Speaker 2: a space where they really got a lot they'd have

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Speaker 2: to do going into next year. We'll talk about both

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Speaker 2: those two different things a start. First, the quarterback position

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Speaker 2: you had, Dak Prescott, Joe Milton, Will Grier. What do

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Speaker 2: you thoughts on their performance as a as a unit

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Speaker 2: this last season.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna stick with Dad Prescott first.

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Speaker 7: You look at his numbers alone, over forty five hundred

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Speaker 7: passing yards, thirty touchdowns, just ten interceptions. Yeah, top of

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Speaker 7: the NFL and yards and touchdowns. But you just talk

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Speaker 7: about a guy who you know we were asking of

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Speaker 7: him so much last year.

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Speaker 8: Use your mobility when you need to write Grant he

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Speaker 8: was injured.

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Speaker 7: He spent most of twenty twenty four injured, but you're

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Speaker 7: seeing him do a lot more things. Considering this offensive

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Speaker 7: line was not probably the best.

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Speaker 8: That it's been in previous years.

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Speaker 7: So Dak Prescott, his situational awareness, so to speak, was

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Speaker 7: probably the best that I've seen every year. He continues

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Speaker 7: to improve year in and year out. And granted he

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Speaker 7: had some guys George Pickens, a Ceedee Lamb, a Ryan

509
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Speaker 7: Flinoy who stepped up in the passing game as well

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Speaker 7: to kind of bail him out in situations.

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Speaker 8: But I mean Dak is seeing things on a whole

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Speaker 8: new level. And so to speak.

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Speaker 7: Now, Joe Milton, granted, still needs some work and them interceptions,

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Speaker 7: them not being so afraid of pressure, so to speak,

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Speaker 7: I think needs a little bit more work.

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Speaker 10: Will Grear.

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Speaker 8: We didn't see much of him either, So.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Dak Prescott, that's all I gotta speak, all right now, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Man, listen, I don't know what you got behind Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 5: Don't know, Yeah, don't know. Thankfully it don't matter. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time, to the coach's point, I mean

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Speaker 5: we didn't. Thankfully we didn't get to see much of

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Speaker 5: Joe Milton in twenty five because if you did, then

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Speaker 5: that meant something went wrong with Dak Prescott. So glad

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Speaker 5: to see we didn't see a lot of Joe Milton.

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Speaker 5: What you did see, though, didn't impress. Okay has to

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Speaker 5: work on ball security. One of the things that we

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Speaker 5: saw throughout training camp, watched Derek the Koyak in attest,

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Speaker 5: is some accuracy issues. Nobody's doubting his arm. Has an

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Speaker 5: absolute cannon with an arm, but needs to get the

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Speaker 5: accuracy down more consistently. Needs to be able to put

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Speaker 5: a little bit more touch on the ball. That's something

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Speaker 5: that unfortunately Trey Lance struggled with as well. So he

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Speaker 5: could throw with the ball eighty yards, but when it

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Speaker 5: came to and soft touches and things like that kind

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Speaker 5: of struggle. Will Greer definitely a veteran in the game

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Speaker 5: as far as number of years in the league, however,

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Speaker 5: still not able to show the Cowboys what he can

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Speaker 5: do in a regular season game. We've seen him ball

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Speaker 5: out in the preseason. But you know, so you don't

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Speaker 5: know what you got behind Dak, but the fact that

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Speaker 5: you got Dak has to make you feel good. Like

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Speaker 5: you said, over forty five hundred yards surpassed Tony Romo

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Speaker 5: in the record books this past season. For a large

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Speaker 5: large part of the season, he was at least in

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Speaker 5: the MVP conversation. And what I'm not going to do

547
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Speaker 5: is two things. One I'm not going to say Dak

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Speaker 5: Prescott is perfect. He still needs to learn from some

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Speaker 5: things and get better at certain things. However, I'm also

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Speaker 5: not going to ever penalize a quarterback for having weapons

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Speaker 5: because I know a lot of people will say, well

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Speaker 5: you got Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens. Oh well, that

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Speaker 5: just meant the front office for that respective team did

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Speaker 5: their job and put the weapons around the guy. Right,

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Speaker 5: So hold every quarterback to the same standard. So Dak Prescott, Yes,

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Speaker 5: George Pickens balled out Ceede Lamb when he was healthy.

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Speaker 5: More often than not, he did his thing, suffer from drops.

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Speaker 5: He needs to improve on that in twenty six and beyond.

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Speaker 5: But Dak Prescott at the quarterback position, I like what

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Speaker 5: you have. I think he's only going to get better.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys just need to capitalize on this window before

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Speaker 5: this window closes, because it's not gonna be open.

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Speaker 3: Felt, I ain't gotta talk that long about that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Dak Dak, Dak is Dak. The only person that can

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Speaker 3: bring him down is Maa n carth call him play

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Speaker 3: so uh he he's top tier. He's gonna keep being

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Speaker 3: top tier, like just like passing. I don't know when

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Speaker 3: it's gonna run out. But we just need to enjoy

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Speaker 3: it while it's here. And yeah, he got weapons. But

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Speaker 3: the one thing I just want to add to that,

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Speaker 3: all of his webons end up better than where the

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Speaker 3: weapons came from. Or like the new people like you

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Speaker 3: know dogar shows go somewhere else. Hey, you wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: weren't doing it.

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Speaker 5: The fields didn't have George Pickens as a thousand yard

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Speaker 5: Pro bowls.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know Randall, Randall Cobb got money. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Mess around with that. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: Dak elevates everybody. So it's cool. I ain't gonta talk

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Speaker 3: about this.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, how important is it

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Speaker 2: that Dallas upgrade its backup quarterback position if their ambitions

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Speaker 2: are to be a championship caliber team. Because the way

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Speaker 2: I look at this is, oftentimes, you know, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a few games where you might lose Dak for

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Speaker 2: you know, where he can't play for a few games

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Speaker 2: because of whatever injury pops up. One of the things

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Speaker 2: that they were able to do during the Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: or is they had a backup that was capable enough

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Speaker 2: to keep them in games. It doesn't sound like from

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Speaker 2: what you guys are saying, you feel like Milton is

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Speaker 2: that person. If that's the case, how important is it

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Speaker 2: to upgrade that position.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that Milton is or is not the

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Speaker 5: person that's the problem, And unfortunately, the only way to

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Speaker 5: find out is if for something to blank blank blank right,

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Speaker 5: And I'm not going to say that, But at the

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Speaker 5: same time, what we can do is assess your Milton

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Speaker 5: in practices and training camp and giving those sample sizes.

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Speaker 5: And in the preseason we've seen some flash, but not

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Speaker 5: enough substance. Right, So if I'm going strictly off of that,

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Speaker 5: they need to address the backup position. And I harken

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Speaker 5: to most recently the Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos lose

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Speaker 5: bow knicks to a fractured ankle. They go into the

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Speaker 5: AFC Championship and you hear everybody talking about, oh, don't

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Speaker 5: underestimate stity. Okay, shouts out to Still because he did.

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Speaker 5: He played well for the first quarter from Georgia. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I clean like as what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: you didn't know that without that he.

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Speaker 6: Cost He's like, he helped cost them boys a ball.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, yeah, let's lest some times.

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Speaker 5: But no, I mean credit to Citi for the first

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Speaker 5: quarter and a half or so talking about like the

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Speaker 5: deep pass, Like he took his shots, but at the

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Speaker 5: same time, he wasn't bow knicks and you could tell

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Speaker 5: that the game were on. So was he the singular

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Speaker 5: reason the Broncos didn't make it past the FC Championship.

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Speaker 6: No, was he a major reason they didn't.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, So to your point, if you're in a situation

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Speaker 5: where you're trying to build a Super Bowl contending team,

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Speaker 5: you also have to make sure that your insurance options

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Speaker 5: for that team are as good as possible at that position,

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Speaker 5: especially that position, because you don't want to be in

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Speaker 5: a Broncos type situation.

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Speaker 8: Backup quarterbacks play in this league. I mean that's just

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Speaker 8: straight up.

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Speaker 7: Uh. You even look back at to the Giants. Granted,

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Speaker 7: I know we shouldn't talk about the Giants, but you talk

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Speaker 7: about Jackson, Dart Russell, Wilson them to you know, different

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Speaker 7: situation there, But backup quarterbacks play. You gotta be able to,

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Speaker 7: you know, be prepared for that moment. Granted we've seen

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Speaker 7: it here in Dallas as well, when Dak Prescott's been injured.

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Speaker 7: Who has been there to kind of relieve that, Well,

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Speaker 7: Cooper Rush was here, granted he was serviceable, but you

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Speaker 7: didn't really have that true kind of backup QB one

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Speaker 7: so to speak, that can kind of hold this offense together.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I think it's crucial. I think it's vital.

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys have been, you know, one of the most

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Speaker 7: experienced ones in terms of that area.

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Speaker 8: So to speak.

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Speaker 3: If boom boom boom boom happens, I'm trying to go

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Speaker 3: draft because I don't think nobody can save a season

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Speaker 3: that works for me, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to lose, you know, just lose them

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Speaker 3: games and draft. However, though, to the table's point, let's

646
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Speaker 3: just say you needed three games. I think Will Greer

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Speaker 3: is more likely to win those three games than Joe

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Speaker 3: Milton is. I think of those two quarterbacks differently. I

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Speaker 3: think of Joe Milton as a guy that were building

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Speaker 3: next Dack, you know what I'm saying. So what ends

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Speaker 3: up happening is when you in these situation, you kind

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Speaker 3: of got to throw Joe Milton there because he needs

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Speaker 3: will keep it on track. We're not gonna throw the

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Speaker 3: a radic in the pocket. I think if you needed

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Speaker 3: if postseason conference championship game like Broncos was, I think

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Speaker 3: Will Grid gives you a much better shot.

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Speaker 5: I agree, I agree, and I'm on the record as

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Speaker 5: and traded for Joe Milton and Will Griz still in

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Speaker 5: the building. I said it in training camp. I think

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Speaker 5: that as it stands, if you need someone to step

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Speaker 5: in for Dak, the better option is Will Grear. But

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Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes, Josh Lamar, Wait watch this. Pat Mahomes, Josh

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Speaker 5: Allen Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott versus.

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning, Drew Brees, who was like the

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Speaker 6: Wait said that name?

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Speaker 3: Say the list again, Tom Brady, Peyton, Manning, coach Peyton, Manning, Saints,

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Speaker 6: Who was the we're talking was Andrew's Andrew lookxer also.

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Speaker 2: Nook was might be you might be thinking next, might

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Speaker 6: We're talking Uncle Rivers, Rivers Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those kind of here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: Uncles, Paper Fronkles Payton, was.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about? Yes, I agree with you. Look when

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Speaker 2: you look at the top of the quarterbacks now, I

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Speaker 2: think I do think part of it is those guys

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Speaker 2: are headed to the Hall of Fame. Yes, I will

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Speaker 2: take you back to a time when Peyton was one

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Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the league and there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of people like man Peyton came win the

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Speaker 2: easy to say that now and be like man, Peyton's

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Speaker 2: wont the greats of all time? They weren't staying that

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Speaker 2: back then. They weren't saying that. They weren't saying that.

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Speaker 2: So I just think I do think that. And the

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Speaker 2: at any given time, and the rest of them are

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Speaker 2: just fighting for like they trying to get to that level.

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Speaker 2: And so those teams and it's one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: why if you guys go back and listen to the break,

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Speaker 2: as when when the Cowboys were talking about what they

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Speaker 2: were going to do with Dak Prescott, and there were

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Speaker 2: some people that were out there that would say things like, well,

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Speaker 2: if Dak ain't the one, then should you pay him

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Speaker 2: all that money? And my contention was always, I don't

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Speaker 2: care if he's the one. What I want to notice

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Speaker 2: he has the potential to be the one, and if

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Speaker 2: he has the potential to be the one, I'm paying

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Speaker 2: him because it's too hard in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: to start over from scratch. We're seeing that with Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald right now. Sam Donald needed more time to be

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Speaker 2: able to develop maybe the right coaches, maybe the right scheme,

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Speaker 2: all those things. But the fact of the matter is, I

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Speaker 2: think in today's NFL there are only ten to twelve

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Speaker 2: that are good. The rest of them are trying to

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Speaker 2: get to that point. And if you got one that

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Speaker 2: you feel like has an opportunity, you gotta pay him.

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Speaker 2: It's Houston will have that issue when they have to

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Speaker 2: sign a new contract, because they're gonna have to figure out, like,

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Speaker 2: do we think our guy is one, do we think

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Speaker 2: he's one of those ones? Or do we think he

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Speaker 2: can develop into being one of those ones? And if so,

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Speaker 2: they gotta pay him. Whether they think he is right

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Speaker 2: now or not, they gotta pa him because they don't

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Speaker 2: want to start over from scratch. And I don't want

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Speaker 2: to throw him out there. But I remember back when

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys were going through I was quarterbacks Clinton Snerner

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Speaker 2: and you had a Quincy Carter and Clinch Hutchinson and

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Speaker 2: you know Drew Henson. You would get you were throwing

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Speaker 2: just darts out of dark board hoping you could hit on one.

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Speaker 2: And you had three, five and eleven seasons. You don't

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Speaker 2: want to go back to quarterback purgatory. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: it is the worst feeling to go into games feeling

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Speaker 2: like your quarterback has no shot against this other team,

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Speaker 2: because you know, going into the year you got no chance.

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Speaker 5: And there's a certain level of recency bias. And I

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Speaker 5: mean because now, unfortunately, since the Cowboys are thirty years

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Speaker 5: new fans, this new generation of fans. Past couple generations,

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Speaker 5: I'll say that didn't experience the quarterback drop, the post

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Speaker 5: or old enough to be conscious of what was happening.

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Speaker 6: I lived it, right, I lived it.

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Speaker 5: So all you all they know is Tony Romo and

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Speaker 5: they're like, oh, well, he didn't win the Big One,

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Speaker 5: so he wasn't great. And then ow Dak Prescott, Oh

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Speaker 5: he's not won the big ones just yet, so he's

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Speaker 5: not great.

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Speaker 6: They don't have the comparison. We have the comparison.

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Speaker 5: So now that's not to say that they don't need

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Speaker 5: to win the big One to be great. They don't,

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Speaker 5: but they do because damn Reno was still great without one.

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Speaker 5: But you want them to that's what you're paying them for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and by the way, there are they're there are.

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Speaker 2: There are grades to greatness, right, their grades to greatness,

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Speaker 2: Like Drew Brees is a great quarterback. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's Tom Brady, right, So you can have greatness, and

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Speaker 2: but there are grades to it. There are there are

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Speaker 2: levels to this thing, right, and so I think I

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Speaker 2: think Dak is as good of a quarterback as you

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Speaker 2: can get in the National Football League that hadn't won

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Speaker 2: a championship.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all know in two thousand and eight kurk Wanner

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Speaker 3: through for forty five hundred yards and thirty touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had him in fantasy.

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Speaker 10: I had it.

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Speaker 2: Was nice.

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Speaker 3: He was killing it.

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Speaker 2: It was nice.

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Speaker 3: Jake Cutler threw for forty five hundred yards in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jay, they had a couple of years where he was

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Speaker 2: like he had people looking.

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Speaker 3: We ain't got a fuzz somebody, but I was just.

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Speaker 2: Googling, I'm telling but that's still like you they're in

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Speaker 2: that tem Yeah, in that team. Who was that thirteen

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Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen guy. It wasn't great, man, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you or something. It wasn't great. It wasn't great. They

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Speaker 2: had every team like they're a bunch of teams out there.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, there are a bunch of teams

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Speaker 2: out there that have been like going a long period

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Speaker 2: of time in quarterback purgatory, like the Browns are praying

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Speaker 2: that your door can be their savior.

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 2: How long has it been since they had a quarterback

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Speaker 2: they could really rely on like that?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl shittals.

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Speaker 3: I can't think of a good Browns quarterback that's.

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Speaker 2: Like Kozar Bernie Kozark.

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00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 5: Back in the Bozar And for me, Baker was one

868
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: of them.

869
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: But was he great in Cleveland?

870
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: He was great?

871
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: He's better, even better of Cleveland quarterback? Right, he was

872
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: one of their best Shaun Kaiser.

873
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: I remember just where did they get drafted twelve or

874
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: something like that, Dames that he was supposed to be

875
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: one of than one.

876
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: They made mistake. Brown's made some mistake. What you'll think about.

877
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this as a host. We ain't wasting

878
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: a segment, so we ain't talking running back to what

879
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: we are going to talk about is we're gonna talk

880
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: about the Super Bowl. Yeah, I want you guys tell

881
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: me one thing. Let's start with the Patriots.

882
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: Sure, I do think it's interesting when they was like Steve,

883
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: what's you think about GP? I don't know. We'll see, Hey, Steve,

884
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: when's you think about Javonte? We talked to the people

885
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: right now. I do think that's interesting and by the

886
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: time we get to running backs that may be different.

887
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: At No.

888
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: I absolutely think that's something worth noting.

889
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: You absolutely think.

890
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: That's sorry, right, he's gonna get tagged and that's going

891
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: to buy G talking about GP, You're gonna get tagged.

892
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 6: It's my opinion.

893
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: This is my opinion.

894
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 5: That's my opinion based on conversations and you know everything.

895
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: It's my opinion GP will get tagged to buy the

896
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: Cowboys time to negotiate and get the deal done by

897
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: mid July without interference from the other thirty one teams.

898
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 6: That's what I feel like. So back to what the

899
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: host is saying.

900
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the wide receipt. Back to the hostess,

901
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Super Bowl. The Patriots. Give

902
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: me one thing that you look at the Patriots and

903
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: you either admire you think it's something the Cowboys should

904
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: be thinking about or should try to emulate. Something about

905
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: that team that stands out to you.

906
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: That's rush. I love how they turned around a bad

907
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: team real fast. They got aggressive and free agency, like

908
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: I hope the Cowboys do, and they built around that

909
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: that quarterback and made some changes here or there, and

910
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: they turned it around quick.

911
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: I hope Cowboys do the same real quick. I'm just

912
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 5: gonna go with the pass rush. This was the Patriots

913
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: team that prior to Mike Rabel jumping on, they had

914
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: a problem with, you know, getting against the opposing pass

915
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 5: rush or something that the Cowboys had a problem with

916
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: last season. But you love to see that things can

917
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 5: turn around quickly if you get the right man for

918
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: the job. So when you look at what the Patriots

919
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: were able to do. We talked about Stidham and how

920
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 5: he you know, started off well, but they made quick

921
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: adjustments to Patriots did and they started knocking him off

922
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: his spot. They started pressing them, he got uncomfortable, they

923
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: kept him uncomfortable, they started bullying him. So yeah, pass

924
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: rush is pretty monstrous in New England, and you know,

925
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: kind of jealous of that, like to see that here

926
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: in Dallas.

927
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 7: You talk about takeaways, We've been trying to get takeaways

928
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 7: all this entire season. Only six interceptions I believe eleven

929
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 7: total takeaways this year. But you talk about a Patriots

930
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 7: defense that Houston against Houston specific specifically, the Texans had

931
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 7: that game in the bag, but it was turnovers that

932
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 7: allowed them to kind of get that win. I think

933
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 7: that that's yeah, that's definitely something that I think that

934
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: the Cowboys could take away.

935
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: All right, now, flip it to the other side. Let's

936
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: talk about the Seahawks. What's one thing that stands out

937
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 2: to you about.

938
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: This real fat boy? They win guys a free agency,

939
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: and they drafted well and.

940
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: Hed los and they got the right defensive coordinator. Shouts

941
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: out to eight and dirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

942
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 5: mean that's for me, it's the Seahawks defensive front, not

943
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: just the defensive line, because it's.

944
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 6: Not just the ed rushers.

945
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: It's the big guys in the middle that eat that

946
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 5: peanut butter. Like vot said, they only peanut butter in

947
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 5: the offseason. It's their linebackers. They helped that defensive line

948
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 5: get after you and but they can cover well as well.

949
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 6: And then you go from there.

950
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 5: I mean, when you have a defensive front, that's that's

951
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: that's that terrifying, shortens the passing windows for your secondary

952
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: to cover. When you can do that, you make even

953
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: an average cornerback and safety look like they're pro Bowlers

954
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 5: when otherwise they so for me, it's the defensive front.

955
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 8: Oh, minds everything, everything, they got everything, They got special teams,

956
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 8: they got a kid.

957
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 7: They can take it to the yards.

958
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 8: I can't remember. It's fine. There we go and so.

959
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: He can run.

960
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 10: He can run.

961
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: There we go, just like that, every earth everything.

962
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: Watch I said, I'll tell you. They went to go

963
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: get some help. Man, they build some people. They came

964
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: here to get some help. They can.

965
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: I think I think there's a common thing with both

966
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: these teams that I think should be a common thing

967
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: for NFL teams in general. Coaching and defense matter because

968
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: in today's NFL you hear so much about offense, offense, offense.

969
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: So many head coaches are being hired as offensive guys

970
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: because you feel like that's so important. Both these teams

971
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: led by defensive coaches and their defenses reflect that. The

972
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: way they play defense, the style of defense they play,

973
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: the tenacity, the violence, all that is reflective of defense

974
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: being kind of a thing, right, And so I think

975
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: in today's NFL, you look throughout the playoffs this year,

976
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: you saw a number of teams that had new coaches.

977
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: You had to saw a number of teams that had

978
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: really really really good defenses. And so I think that's

979
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys have to really think about here, is

980
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: how do you get the most out of your defense

981
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: to get to get to that level of the NFL.

982
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: I think today you're gonna have to have a defense

983
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: that really can play somebody.

984
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: Man.

985
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: The thing that really just chaps Mahad is looking at Seattle,

986
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: looking at the Patriots, knowing that their defenses, respectively, got

987
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 5: them to this point. We're about to see what I

988
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: predict is going to be a low scoring, just back

989
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 5: alley brawl between these two defenses. You look at the

990
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball, and yes, Sam Donald is capable,

991
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 5: and yes Straight May is capable. But those offenses to

992
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: me look nothing like like what the Cowboys offense looks like.

993
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 5: So if you give the Cowboys offense counterparts that look

994
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: like the Seahawks and look like the Patriots were going

995
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: to stars, you're going to win something. You're going to

996
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: win something. So that's what gets me excited about twenty six.

997
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: The jury is out on you know, I should say,

998
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: the verdict is out on what Christian Parker and his

999
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 5: staff will be. But like you talked about at the

1000
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: top of the show, and like you talked about it,

1001
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: like you talked about we love the refreshing change and

1002
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 5: approach to building this defensive staff and if it can

1003
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 5: do anything close to making them just year one. I

1004
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 5: said this on talking Cowboys. You want them to exceed expectations.

1005
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 5: You want them to be a top five, top three defense.

1006
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: Of course that shit go without saying. But if you

1007
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 5: can in year one, as you're working through some play

1008
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 5: calling growing pains like Christian Parker will, if you can

1009
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: make them sixteenth, fifteenth, fourteenth in the league defensively, you're

1010
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: in the playoffs and you're deep in the playoffs. Yeah,

1011
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 5: So God, what twenty five could have been if the

1012
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 5: defense would have just done.

1013
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: Got some act right, if they would have teached, if

1014
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: you'd have peached them. You know, you know what I'm saying.

1015
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: If if if you're one Christian park I'm sorry, Nicole,

1016
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: this is what I do. If if ye're one Christian Parker,

1017
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: is anything close to like what year one Kellen Moore was, MA,

1018
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: We'll be all right, there's no experience step in. But

1019
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: I'm a genius though, and we just kind of figured

1020
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: it out on the fly. You know what I'm saying, just.

1021
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Make those guys that were pretty good players or decent

1022
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: players two years ago, just get them back to that point.

1023
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: Turn around them into a thousand yard receivers. Just please.

1024
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: But even at the position coaches, I said, it's not

1025
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: throw to real quick is when you look at the

1026
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: position coaches that are being hired versus the ones that

1027
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: were released outside of Aaron white Cotton and would have

1028
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: loved to retain white Cotton. But I like what they're

1029
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 5: doing with Marcus Dixon. But these are guys Marcus Dixon,

1030
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 5: Derek Ansley, Uzzo out of Georgia, Ryan Smith, these are

1031
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: guys who are not only still young and fast rising,

1032
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: but they played the position and they played it fairly

1033
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: recently air quotes around fairly recently. That's going to help

1034
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: with the buy in for these younger guys that you're

1035
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 5: telling them to cover this way or do this way,

1036
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 5: or run this trust me, run it this way, trust me.

1037
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 5: Let your eyes set this well, it's no shade to Boganzhi.

1038
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna point them out though, with no shae

1039
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 5: to Burganzi. Are you be laeving that more from Uzo

1040
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: or more from Boganzhi? If you're a twenty three year

1041
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 5: old linebacker think that.

1042
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: I think if you have the experience, you literally in

1043
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: the moment can give them that.

1044
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1045
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Man, I remember when I had to deal with this

1046
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: kind of receiver, this kind of running, this kind of guard.

1047
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Here's how I handled it. Here's what I looked at

1048
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: late afterwards and like I should have done more of this,

1049
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Like that's the kind of experience that I do. It

1050
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: matters as a coach to give them that type of

1051
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: personal experience. That's not just theoretical, it's not just book smarts.

1052
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: It is I've been in the trenches. I dealt with this,

1053
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: and this is how you use it. I'm sorry.

1054
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 7: And it's not just about the experience with the coaching staff's.

1055
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 7: You got to bring in some good experience or quality

1056
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: experience with the players in free agency as well. I

1057
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 7: feel like you hadn't you hadn't gotten what you needed

1058
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 7: from a Jack Sanbourne, a Kenneth Murray granted from the

1059
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 7: coaching aspect, especially with you know, the second dary of

1060
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 7: the linebacker.

1061
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 8: You have so many young guys like Mayors Lee.

1062
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 7: Who was probably playing rookie year, you know, last year

1063
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 7: took a big step back. Savone revel of course from injury,

1064
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 7: but needs a lot of grooming as well. So yeah,

1065
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna what's gonna matter is who you

1066
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 7: bring it in free agency.

1067
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be crazy this time next year

1068
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: that y'all gonna be talking about Keith Murray being a

1069
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: pro bowler. Please for who?

1070
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: That's a lot of who where for who? That's a

1071
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: lot like I don't know.

1072
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not predicting that what I am saying

1073
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: is funny. Now, I do think there are a lot

1074
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: of guys I don't know if Kenneth is one of them.

1075
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of guys on this

1076
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: defense that what you saw this year was more of

1077
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: a reflection of coaching than it was of their ability.

1078
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: Well, Kenith Murray is a free agent.

1079
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, so he may not even get a chance to.

1080
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray's a free agent. Free marriage.

1081
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: All right, All right, let's get picked real quick before

1082
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: you in this y'all give me picks, Go around table.

1083
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: What don't happen in Super Bowl?

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00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: Start with you patting Seahawks Patriots?

1085
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 5: Let me get oh man, I think the Marcus where

1086
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 5: it's only the Marcus launch train. I think DLAG gets

1087
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: his ring eight and dirty. So yeah, I'm going Seahawks

1088
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: slow scoring game seventeen thirteen Seahawks.

1089
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 7: Dang, I suck it picks, all right, I warrant Seahawks,

1090
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 7: and I'm going it's gonna be a close game.

1091
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say twenty one seventeen.

1092
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm a homer. The Cowboys ain't any they can cancel

1093
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: the game they want to.

1094
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: Man, it's our last one of the year. You got

1095
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: to saving this one.

1096
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: Man, Come on, I don't care who, but if somebody

1097
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: has to win, I guess you know, with the Dallas

1098
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 3: Ties or whatever, we can get tankub.

1099
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: But also you don't want the Patriots pulling away, even

1100
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 5: more so in the Rings color.

1101
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: I'm a Cowboy fans. I really don't care. Like they

1102
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: can can't do if the lights go off like they

1103
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: did with a Raves in San France. They just don't

1104
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: cut back on handle the game.

1105
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: I don't gay, but til you put this right, you

1106
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: have to chasing seven. Enough chasing six. I want to

1107
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 5: chase something to that point. I'm a thirty year old

1108
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 5: cowboy Fanah, I ain't see the rings for really, you

1109
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying a forty five year old Cowboys fan.

1110
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: I saw him, and I don't want to chase. Sorry,

1111
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 5: I want to chase to get this sick.

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00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm Christian Park.

1113
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 6: Let me get this. Let me get this six before

1114
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 6: the Steelers or the Patriots gets seven.

1115
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: That's all.

1116
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: I knock itself out.

1117
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: Hey man, I actually think the Patriot's gonna win this game.

1118
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win it. I don't think it's

1119
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: gonna be particularly close. I think Patriots went twenty four

1120
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: to thirteen. I think uh, I think they have a

1121
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: better I think they have a more well rounded team

1122
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: than the Seattle Seahawks.

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00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 6: Really uh seventeen thirteen Seahawks.

1124
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: We will see. This will be a fun game to watch, hopefully,

1125
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: because it is the last one in the season, and

1126
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: it's always sad for me. As soon as the game's over,

1127
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, we got to end a drought season.

1128
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: He won't be back football, won't be back till August,

1129
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: but enjoyed for this week and and then we'll get

1130
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: into the off season. We got lots to talk about

1131
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: in all seasons. So thank you guys for joining us.

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00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: Hey man, it's just really appreciate you I really appreciate

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00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: you guys coming shop.

1134
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 6: You got to do it more often.

1135
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Even if we got to change the name, you know,

1136
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: of the Break, Like, can we just do this some more.

1137
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, we don't have to have a

1138
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: specific show. We just come down here one day and

1139
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: just get on the mike.

1140
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: And I want to get paid to do it. But yeah,

1141
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: he said, Hey, you.

1142
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: Don't do it for fun. You just We're not just

1143
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna do it for fun.

1144
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 3: Invoice by the hours.

1145
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: All right for Patrick Walker, Nicole Hudtchvax Lombardi, Derek Live

1146
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: from the Break. We'll see you guys next week. Dallas

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