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Speaker 2: on this hour. But I think tight End University, by
Speaker 2: the way, Iowa is now tight End University. The University
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Speaker 2: radio affiliates around the country as well. The pole question
Speaker 2: from the first hour, Seat and the results and what
Speaker 2: Are we going to go with hour two on this program?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of recency bias,
Speaker 3: but we have up there which team is having the
Speaker 3: worst week? Unfortunately, the Lakers are run away with that one.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna put up there the inverse of that,
Speaker 3: who's having the best week? It's all Celtics, Panthers or
Speaker 3: the Huskies of Yukon. Game five will be back in Boston.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine if Dan Hurley went to the Celtics game.
Speaker 3: Celtics have a chance to win the titles, So he's
Speaker 3: not going in there to try to bigfoot Joe Missoula.
Speaker 2: He's just going in there to maybe take a victory. Left,
Speaker 2: just to say to the New England, Hey just want
Speaker 2: to say I'm back and I'm staying. And round of
Speaker 2: applause for Dan Hurley there.
Speaker 4: Yes, Tom, they put him on the screen and he's
Speaker 4: wearing a Celtics jersey. Yeah, who's their mind?
Speaker 2: Yeah that'd be nice, But he's on the recruiting trail.
Speaker 2: Todd reached out to Yukon. They said that he appreciates
Speaker 2: the invitation, but he's going to be recruiting and I
Speaker 2: don't blame him. It's like when a coach wins a
Speaker 2: national title and then Nick Saban picks up the phone
Speaker 2: calls the recruit while there's celebration confetti, and he's saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: you could be part of this, or you'd have a
Speaker 2: coach in college who would do the same thing. Hey
Speaker 2: in basketball, Hey you could be part of this. Dan
Speaker 2: Hurley can do that today. No matter where he goes.
Speaker 2: He's got a great opening line. I'm here to coach you.
Speaker 2: I turned down the opportunity to coach Lebron James. Come
Speaker 2: on in, be a part of this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If Dan Hurley shows up Game five in Boston, he's
Speaker 3: got the Celtics screen on. They show him on there,
Speaker 3: he waves, the crowd goes nuts, and Joe Missoula goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, it's good. It's good. I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. He's no, Joe is en route to winning
Speaker 2: a title. He's okay, contract extension, everything's good.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm saying too excited about the coach here.
Speaker 2: It's good. That's great. Now, if Dallas happens to win
Speaker 2: the next two, I can't go back for Game five.
Speaker 2: If you're Dan Hurley, then you got to wait till
Speaker 2: game seven. Maybe, yes, Mark.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to stores and personally deliver those two
Speaker 5: Con shirts. Oh, our two Con shirt and our back
Speaker 5: to back shirts, so maybe he wear it like you
Speaker 5: know what. Okay, little pop up, Yeah, little pop up,
Speaker 5: come on two Con let's go all right? And then
Speaker 5: I don't know how we can incorporate a three pet shirt,
Speaker 5: but you know that's in the works for next April.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. By the way, great items there for
Speaker 2: Father's Day. We have the Dead Dad's Club t shirts
Speaker 2: and shotglasses, but we also have the bathrobes. The bathrobe
Speaker 2: that's modeled after the one my wife got me, and
Speaker 2: she put Daddy on the side of the pocket that
Speaker 2: you have and you can now have your very own
Speaker 2: daddy bathroom. Yeah, wear it proudly around the house as
Speaker 2: I do. All Right, So we have our pole question
Speaker 2: for hour or two, that's this glass is half full.
Speaker 2: Now we're thinking of the positive series.
Speaker 3: Let's not always be negative.
Speaker 2: We also have.
Speaker 3: This was from PAULI whose NFL coaching career. Would you
Speaker 3: want Mike Tomlin or Jimmy Johnson?
Speaker 2: Now I'm taking the college part of this as well.
Speaker 2: Do I get the college part of this or just
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 6: I'm hearing no, no, no, you're not getting in the
Speaker 6: pole question. It's whose NFL coaching career would you like?
Speaker 6: Jimmy Johnson comes out of the gate two titles and
Speaker 6: walks off into the sunset, never coaches again, but goes
Speaker 6: to the Hall of Fame. Mike Tomlin got a title
Speaker 6: I think his second year as a Steeler head coach
Speaker 6: and has done well the next fifteen years.
Speaker 2: He always has a winning record.
Speaker 6: Always has a winning record, but as not one again,
Speaker 6: who right now, whose career would you want?
Speaker 2: Well, No, Jimmy went to the Dolphins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I'd.
Speaker 2: Say it right off into the sunset. He went to
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Similarly, No, they didn't do anything. That's yes.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Mike Tomlin got a contract extension, so, uh,
Speaker 2: hopefully Mike's happy. Never know if Mike's happy. Every time
Speaker 2: he gets in front of the media at the press
Speaker 2: conference will be like, next question, yeah, yeah, Russ is cooking.
Speaker 2: Uh No, we're not going to have Justin fields on kickoffs.
Speaker 2: Tomlin's going to be a Hall of Famer as well.
Speaker 2: He's going to have a career similar to, uh, let's
Speaker 2: see who else would you put in there? You know
Speaker 2: with the one title? Though, is Sean Payton going to
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer when it's all set and done,
Speaker 2: Like Bill Cower and Mike Tomlin have similar careers there
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and Cower's in, so Mike's going to get in, yes, Mark.
Speaker 5: I think where Sean Payton won his Super Bowl is
Speaker 5: a real big part of it because they were the eighths,
Speaker 5: yeah for a long time, and to turn that team
Speaker 5: into a super Bowl team is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Mavericks are favored by one and
Speaker 2: a half coming up tomorrow night, Game three in Dallas.
Speaker 2: Then you're I'm getting the sense though, if you're Dallas, like, now,
Speaker 2: what do you do differently other than how about making
Speaker 2: some shots? Because Boston hasn't played great, I don't think,
Speaker 2: but I think they've had players who have played great
Speaker 2: and collectively, like Dallas is going to look back on
Speaker 2: Game two and go, how did we not win that game?
Speaker 2: That game? Was there? That that haunts you, That's one
Speaker 2: that stays with you because you win that one. Now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, okay, we split, we got what
Speaker 2: we wanted. Now we're coming back home. Then maybe you
Speaker 2: win game three. Now all of a sudden, you put
Speaker 2: pressure back on Boston. But losing Game two in a
Speaker 2: game that they should have won or figured out a
Speaker 2: way to win. Just Boston didn't play great. It just
Speaker 2: Dallas didn't either. All right, we'll get some phone calls
Speaker 2: in here. George Kittle will stop by coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit the headlines. Dan Hurley passes on the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Panthers handled the Oilers. They're up two to zero in
Speaker 2: the final and more NFL teams open up mini camps
Speaker 2: and Mike Tomlin gets a contract extension. Ross in Tampa, Hi, Ross,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 8: How you doing good? First of all, I'd like to
Speaker 8: say your hair is just amazing, and I look to
Speaker 8: be like that soon. I'm forty one and I'm starting
Speaker 8: to get a bald spot, so I hate it. Anyways,
Speaker 8: the reason I think Hurley did not sign with the
Speaker 8: Lakers is because Lebron's going back to Cleveland. I mean
Speaker 8: he went to the playoffs playoff game with him. You know,
Speaker 8: he's got his coach and waiting JJ Reddick. He's going
Speaker 8: to bring him with him. Cleveland's got a stack roster.
Speaker 8: He's going to go home right right the end of
Speaker 8: the story. In Cleveland, they're going to draft Ronnie James.
Speaker 8: And that's how Hurley found out that he didn't want
Speaker 8: to be a Lakers coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's simple, Huh. Lebron's going to go to the Cavs.
Speaker 2: They'll take Bronnie jj Reddick's going to be the head coach. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, it'd be a good way to bookend your career.
Speaker 2: You start and clear eve when you ended in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna work that way. He loves La.
Speaker 2: You want to stay in La. Your business is in La,
Speaker 2: family's in La. He doesn't have unfinished business in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: He probably would say I got unfinished business with the Lakers.
Speaker 2: They're gonna take Bronnie. Son gets a chance to play
Speaker 2: a little bit. Lebron plays two more years perhaps then
Speaker 2: then it's over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark, going back to Dan Hurley, what if Dan
Speaker 5: just kind of likes it here like people do, Like
Speaker 5: you know what, I just don't want to move. Have
Speaker 5: you ever seen somebody that got a good offer somewhere
Speaker 5: else for another opportunity, like you know, what.
Speaker 2: I like you here.
Speaker 4: My wife and my kids like you here.
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like moving. Well, Mark Few at Gonzaga.
Speaker 2: I think he had opportunity at UCLA, maybe a couple opportunities,
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Ruyshevski turned down the Lakers, you know
Speaker 2: whatever that how many years ago was that that he
Speaker 2: turned them down? But he felt more comfortable at Douke.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who else would be Tom Izzo
Speaker 2: at Michigan State. He was going to take the Cabs
Speaker 2: job and then thankfully didn't because that was the year
Speaker 2: that Lebron left. He would have been taking the Cabs
Speaker 2: job and then he'd be coaching them without Lebron. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you find a lot of coaches who I'm
Speaker 2: comfortable here. This is what I want to do. I
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody ever approached John wooden't about coaching
Speaker 2: in the NBA. It feels like you would, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. I never heard anything where did the Lakers
Speaker 2: ever reach out to him or I mean, anybody any
Speaker 2: other team where you go, Hey, we would love to
Speaker 2: have And I don't know if coach wouldn't style would
Speaker 2: have worked in the NBA. Probably would have driven him
Speaker 2: crazy that he didn't have control over everything everybody. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was ever offered something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Bob Knight was ever offered anything
Speaker 2: from Indiana or even Texas Tech. That style wouldn't have
Speaker 2: gone on gone overwell in the NBA. It didn't go
Speaker 2: over well in college. I mean there was success, but
Speaker 2: then that success that evaporated. But I couldn't imagine that
Speaker 2: kind of temperament coaching in the NBA. And I still
Speaker 2: look at Danny Hurley and I go that temperament. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can have that personality every night
Speaker 2: and the losses that get to you. It's not the wins,
Speaker 2: you know, getting that win. It's athletes and coaches always
Speaker 2: talk about the losses like that's always the bottom line.
Speaker 2: Hey what about that that? I mean, we talked to
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller and go, oh god, why are you bringing
Speaker 2: that up? It still kills me that game or that
Speaker 2: moment we're up on that team. The wins, you expect
Speaker 2: the wins, it's the losses that stay with you. And
Speaker 2: I think you when you are a player at a
Speaker 2: Marquee school and you go into the NBA or the NFL,
Speaker 2: and you're not used to losing, and you never want
Speaker 2: to get used to losing, but then you do, you
Speaker 2: get numb to it. And same with coaches because the
Speaker 2: time and the effort that they put in and there's
Speaker 2: only so much they can control because they're not playing
Speaker 2: their coaching, and then all of a sudden, those losses
Speaker 2: and then they crush you. They just stay with you. You
Speaker 2: make one bad decision all that lead up to a game,
Speaker 2: and you got one decision that you made and you
Speaker 2: wish you could have reversed that. Like that's the kind
Speaker 2: of stuff that just hangs with you on a separate
Speaker 2: topic that has nothing to do with anything today. Although
Speaker 2: I did see I'm always curious about auction items at
Speaker 2: what people pay for certain things, like what is the
Speaker 2: value in that to you that maybe I don't see?
Speaker 2: And I saw where Tom Brady's pants from his last
Speaker 2: game that he ever played. I think they went for
Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand dollars. If I said you could have
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's pants or his jersey, what was it? How
Speaker 2: much was it?
Speaker 6: I got the final pants, not the pantsy war to
Speaker 6: the field, the pants he won the game game war
Speaker 6: pants eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, okay, I could see ponying up for Brady's
Speaker 2: pants eighty nine thousand. Do you display them like justin
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it like in a
Speaker 2: I guess I would frame it and say, hey, there's
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's pants. Yeah, Seaton, Yeah, I'm sorry this is
Speaker 2: not on topic, but just back to the Lakers quickly.
Speaker 3: This, James brings up a great point. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: to have our our stat people check this out. But
Speaker 3: it's that out of the day. Is this the first
Speaker 3: time in NBA history a coach has declined a coaching
Speaker 3: offer from an INN season championship winner.
Speaker 2: I think that is the case.
Speaker 3: This might be the first time in season. Maybe people
Speaker 3: have forgotten that the Lakers won the nd season tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but this could be the first time in history a
Speaker 3: coach has turned down the opportunity to coach the n
Speaker 3: season championship winner.
Speaker 2: I believe that is the case. Stan, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well done, James. Yeah to call the day stat of
Speaker 2: the day, James gets that stat of the day. Stat
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Speaker 2: and they raised that banner. Remember Barkley came on and
Speaker 2: he's like, if they raised that thing, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: rip it down. We're in season champions. Dang, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6: Imagine you're raising the banner. The fans are there.
Speaker 2: You put on some queen.
Speaker 9: We are the.
Speaker 3: We are the champions of the world this year mid season?
Speaker 7: Are those Tom Brady pants, by the way, signed? There
Speaker 7: was just a pair of pants that you would frame.
Speaker 7: I would I'd want a little something more. That's why
Speaker 7: I want a jersey because it says Brady on it,
Speaker 7: or if it's a signed helmet or somebody. But it's
Speaker 7: just a pair of pants and pewter or whatever. That
Speaker 7: doesn't seem very.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's autographed, probably not.
Speaker 4: But you know he's got a blend, you know, even
Speaker 4: if with the certificate of whatthenticity. Yeah, those are gratist pants.
Speaker 4: They are white with the stripe and the pewter.
Speaker 2: What if they're always pants from that final Super Bowl?
Speaker 7: I would rather put my money towards if it, if
Speaker 7: it costs more a jersey or a helmet or something
Speaker 7: more substantial.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're ponying up any money for anything.
Speaker 4: I don't not for that. What the kind of money
Speaker 4: they would ask for a couple hundred.
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars, you would not be even if it was
Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars, you wouldn't pay for Elway's finals.
Speaker 4: I want that ball that Mark Jackson caught, that ninety
Speaker 4: eight yard drive ball.
Speaker 2: I've always wonted that that's the one you wanted.
Speaker 4: I would love that ball that Mark Jackson caught at
Speaker 4: the end of the ninety eight yard.
Speaker 2: Jogt see who has that. I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was ever auctioned off. A lot of times these guys
Speaker 2: will score and then you just spike the ball, you know,
Speaker 2: Dwight Clark on the catch, you just got it, spiked it.
Speaker 2: That was it. We didn't think anything about memorabilia back then.
Speaker 2: Frank O Harris, you know that there's a couple of
Speaker 2: people said that they have the football when Franco had
Speaker 2: the immaculate reception. Just I don't know certain things. Tom
Speaker 2: Dempsey kicks US six three yard field goal. I don't
Speaker 2: know if somebody said, oh, that's an all time record
Speaker 2: at the time, or Justin Tucker, when does he have
Speaker 2: the longest field goal at what's sixty eight yards? So
Speaker 2: I don't know if people in the moment go, who's
Speaker 2: the one who threw a ball away? Was it Mike
Speaker 2: Evans who would have been throwing away Brady's final touchdown pass?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Evan? Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then Brady came back.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to some phone calls here. The
Speaker 2: great actor Lawrence Fishburne will join us coming up next hour.
Speaker 2: Up next always fun to talk to George Kittle, the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Take a break from the
Speaker 2: basketball talk, little football here. You got more teams who
Speaker 2: were showing up with mandatory mini camps. Mike Tomlin got
Speaker 2: a contract extension. We make way for George Kittle, the
Speaker 2: Niners tight end pro bowler five times his eighth season
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers and they're back again. It's
Speaker 2: tight End University the fourth year. It's in Nashville. It's
Speaker 2: a three day event. So George is there with Greg
Speaker 2: Olsen and Travis Kelcey. The tight End community comes together
Speaker 2: to collaborate and learn from one another. So we make
Speaker 2: way for George Kittle to join us on the program.
Speaker 2: You know, when did your alma mater, When did Iowa
Speaker 2: become tight End University?
Speaker 9: Dallas Clark? Okay, I was, you know when you know
Speaker 9: I grew up. I got to go to Everson one
Speaker 9: of Dallas's games and just seen the way he played
Speaker 9: the game. I think that kind of just set the
Speaker 9: stage for Iowa tight ends. I think guys saw him
Speaker 9: and was like, he came in as a linebacker. You know,
Speaker 9: I not recruited heavily, had all no scholarship, earn a spot,
Speaker 9: became a great tight end, get strapped, and then goes
Speaker 9: on to do fantastic things in the NFL. And so
Speaker 9: I think that was kind of the start of it.
Speaker 9: And then I think you got all these no, not
Speaker 9: highly recruited guys that are just getting Hey, I was
Speaker 9: going to give me a shot to be a really
Speaker 9: good tight end and then I think the success just
Speaker 9: started coming back, you know, after that. And then then
Speaker 9: you have a nice little role there of myself, Hockinson,
Speaker 9: Noah Laporta, and now we're just kind of the pipeline's rolling.
Speaker 2: How is the position evolving in the NFL when you
Speaker 2: guys get together to talk about this at tight End University,
Speaker 2: how's it evolving?
Speaker 9: I think how it's evolving is that you have more
Speaker 9: guys that can do everything. You don't. You know, you
Speaker 9: don't just have like a two and seventy pound left
Speaker 9: tackle who's playing has a tight end number, and you
Speaker 9: don't just have like a tour and thirty five pound
Speaker 9: guy running choice routes. I think you're getting guys to
Speaker 9: are tour and fort and sixty pounds somewhere in that gap.
Speaker 9: But they're running, you know, they're running routes to catch
Speaker 9: the ball, they're getting open, they're being more than serviceable
Speaker 9: in the run game and pass protection game.
Speaker 12: And I think guys are just the whole.
Speaker 9: You know, you can look at their Madden stats, all
Speaker 9: their attributes are just going up just a little bit
Speaker 9: in all the categories, and like that's what I would
Speaker 9: like to do with you know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 9: like ten personnel, like, you know, four wide receivers, one
Speaker 9: running back to zero tight ends. Not a fan of that.
Speaker 9: I'm all for, you know, multiple tight ends in there
Speaker 9: running back. You know, maybe a fullback would rather have
Speaker 9: a tight end, unless it's juice maybe, but really it's
Speaker 9: just I just want guys to, you know, have the
Speaker 9: opportunity to, you know, be in this position where they're
Speaker 9: comfortable enough to be on the field for every situation,
Speaker 9: and you know how the confidence go execute in every situation.
Speaker 2: Did you guys Hayes Brock party.
Speaker 12: I did on the first day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you do?
Speaker 12: I put an eyele football shirt in his locker.
Speaker 9: It was his first day. He pulled it out, he
Speaker 9: turned it, looked right at me, and he goes, what's
Speaker 9: this turn of my locker?
Speaker 12: I have no idea. Man, the eq guys here crazy.
Speaker 2: So the equipment guys, you blame them, huh.
Speaker 9: Uh, Well only for stuff like that. But is that
Speaker 9: was a pretty obvious.
Speaker 12: One on me.
Speaker 2: Okay, but at what point do you say, I don't know,
Speaker 2: is hazing still go on to the degree it used
Speaker 2: to back in the sixties or seventies.
Speaker 12: I mean I wasn't there for and I've heard some stories,
Speaker 12: but no, absolutely not.
Speaker 9: The most thing you know, I like to do is
Speaker 9: I'd just like to have a conversation with guy just
Speaker 9: to see what you know, kind of like a little
Speaker 9: little shot, if I can say that. But it's just like,
Speaker 9: how are you going to respond to me? And like
Speaker 9: are you gonna be like nervous? And am I is that?
Speaker 9: How like our relationship is gonna go? Or are you
Speaker 9: gonna be able to just throw me some singers right
Speaker 9: back at me? And I've enjoyed that, and that's one
Speaker 9: of the reason I like Brock so much because he
Speaker 9: was just throwing zingers right back at me.
Speaker 12: He was like, we're gonna be great friends.
Speaker 2: McCaffrey gets his contract extended. When you guys get you know,
Speaker 2: your contracts upgraded or extended? Is there you take people
Speaker 2: out to dinner? Like, how how does it McCaffrey do
Speaker 2: anything for you guys?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 9: Well, he did get a see at the entire offense
Speaker 9: PHG Golf clubs for Christmas, so I think he's he's
Speaker 9: doing all right in that regard.
Speaker 12: They're great clubs.
Speaker 9: Besides that, No, but he'll take care of me by
Speaker 9: probably having another two thousand yards and twenty touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Are you in the wedding.
Speaker 12: I'm not in the.
Speaker 9: Wedding, but I'm going to the wedding, so I'm excited
Speaker 9: about that. Up in Rhode Island. Should be a good time.
Speaker 9: Got a good group of guys going up there.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you had the bachelor party yet?
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know if he's actually really doing
Speaker 9: a bachelor party. He's a busy dude that's kind of
Speaker 9: all over the place. You know, he's got like his
Speaker 9: routine down and the things that he wants to do.
Speaker 9: It's more just like it extended weekend where you know
Speaker 9: you'd hang out at Assassin of Dolfin.
Speaker 2: That's not That's not what are we doing here? That's soft.
Speaker 9: You know what, Dan Christians, he is an elite human
Speaker 9: being who actually thinks his way, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 9: argue with him. I know he's gonna have a good time,
Speaker 9: and you know, we'll celebrate something on them maybe after
Speaker 9: a Thursday night.
Speaker 12: Who knows.
Speaker 2: He's the Niners tight end. Five time pro bowler George
Speaker 2: kittle Us on the program. When you see Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2: Does he rub it in, does he mention anything? Does
Speaker 2: he say something about the Super Bowl? No?
Speaker 9: Shout outs some of your good friends. I had never
Speaker 9: gotten any type of animosity from Travis. There's been nothing
Speaker 9: but a great friend, great sportsmanship.
Speaker 2: He didn't give you no wow.
Speaker 12: Oh what a nice guy? Right crazy?
Speaker 2: Okay, if it was reversed and you had won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and you saw Kelsey.
Speaker 9: No, I'd be probably the exact same. I'm not much
Speaker 9: of acer damn. Okay, Well, you know, I'm all for
Speaker 9: good vibes and just positive vibes out there.
Speaker 12: Fight ends. Man, We're just nice people.
Speaker 2: You look like you belong in southern California.
Speaker 9: Oh, I know.
Speaker 12: The long hair is not much. It doesn't like make
Speaker 12: sense for my iowaer, it's does it?
Speaker 2: Well, you could have been in the movie Point Break.
Speaker 12: Oh, I was more of a fast on the ridge
Speaker 12: my eye.
Speaker 2: Well, you could be a Spacoli. I can see.
Speaker 12: Exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you a mulligan. What kind of
Speaker 2: strategy would you change in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9: Oh? What kind of strategy? That's a good question. I
Speaker 9: haven't been asked. I need a mulligan for my golf game.
Speaker 12: Right now. But besides that, um mulligan m mm hmm,
Speaker 12: all right, turnovers we have just one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I think.
Speaker 12: We could pull off that turnover. I think that's a
Speaker 12: different But what.
Speaker 2: You look back on that turnover, it's right in front
Speaker 2: of you, behind me, but yes behind okay, near you,
Speaker 2: but yeah it.
Speaker 9: Was yeah, I mean ball bounce on the ground something
Speaker 9: behind me.
Speaker 12: I can't see, super unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you weren't target that much. Like can you
Speaker 2: go into the huddle and say, hey, what about me?
Speaker 9: To an extent, you know, it's uh if you'd like
Speaker 9: watch every single game this entire year, Like there's games
Speaker 9: where I had fifteen targets and there's a game I
Speaker 9: had one target, and it's just like that's just kind
Speaker 9: of where our offense goes. And you know why I
Speaker 9: would for like fully love you know, five to eight
Speaker 9: targets a game. You know, there's just games that's not
Speaker 9: going to happen, and so I just try to contribute
Speaker 9: in other ways, like you know, have my entire career.
Speaker 9: So uh, yes, there's times that you know you're sitting
Speaker 9: there like all right, come on, now, it's time throwing
Speaker 9: the ball a little bit, but I think overall, No,
Speaker 9: we've won a lot of games away that you know,
Speaker 9: our offense is going to be going and so I'm
Speaker 9: not going to be playing too much.
Speaker 12: But it is a hey, I run arounds pretty well
Speaker 12: too sometimes.
Speaker 2: So do you know what's going on with your teammates
Speaker 2: with uh Ayuk with his situation? Like how much do
Speaker 2: you stay in touch or follow this?
Speaker 12: You know all?
Speaker 9: Honestly, this is how I have treated all my teammates
Speaker 9: that go through contract negotiations, is uh I shoot them
Speaker 9: a text and they man, if there's anyone to talk
Speaker 9: about today I can help you with, please hit me up.
Speaker 9: If not, you know, I'll see you when I see you,
Speaker 9: which you know we're going to figure it out at
Speaker 9: some point. I just I had the less I know
Speaker 9: the better. I don't like it when people ask me, hey,
Speaker 9: have you talked at you? If you talked, you come
Speaker 9: like he's doing us saying he's going to be just
Speaker 9: fine and you know, whatever happens there, I'm happy for him.
Speaker 2: Give me your plug for a tight end. You how
Speaker 2: many years now?
Speaker 9: We're going on a year? Four dam that's nice, that's
Speaker 9: not bad, right.
Speaker 2: But there's no tailgating at tight End University, is there.
Speaker 12: That's a great idea. That'll be year five. We'll do that.
Speaker 9: We'll do that at year five, We'll have the Dan
Speaker 9: Patrick tailgates.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Yeah, I loot, yeah, jell o shots.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 9: Uh, it would be a good time, man. As you
Speaker 9: can see, you know, I'm sitting here in my tight
Speaker 9: End new class. We're really excited about it. We've got
Speaker 9: all of our main sponsors back, Bridgestone, Gatorade, Levi's and
Speaker 9: always you know Sharman. You know it's cool too because
Speaker 9: you know Sharmon's out here now. Uh they've had their
Speaker 9: smooth tear product and they like to be smooth because
Speaker 9: tight ends are smooth and Sharman loves tight ends, which
Speaker 9: I still can't get over. How this this might be
Speaker 9: the best partnership in sports. I think it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 9: But you know, we have a lot of good stuff
Speaker 9: going on. Bridgetown's doing a cool thing. We're bringing a
Speaker 9: girls flight football team. We're gonna be playing flag football
Speaker 9: with them on one of the days. I think that's
Speaker 9: gonna be really fun to see. Uh. Some of the
Speaker 9: guys just get completely shook by some of these girls.
Speaker 9: You know, Gatorade's still doing Gatorade stuff, and Levi's is
Speaker 9: gonna meet, you know, maybe get some Canadian tuxedos.
Speaker 12: Out there down to Nashville. So we're pretty excited about
Speaker 12: it though.
Speaker 9: But it's like I said, year four, we're gonna have
Speaker 9: somewhere between like sixty and eighty guys show up and
Speaker 9: have a lot of fun, learn some stuff. You know,
Speaker 9: Greg Olsen will talk about some of his routes and
Speaker 9: stuff like that. Kelsey's gonna probably talk some coverages this year.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna focus I'm gonna focus on some pass protection,
Speaker 9: which I'm pretty excited about.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 9: It's because I hear all the defensive and always talk
Speaker 9: about how you should always win a match a versus
Speaker 9: a tight end in the pass rush.
Speaker 12: And you know, I'm here to get rid of that stipulation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're you're somebody who singled out because
Speaker 2: you do block. But then that's part of your job,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 12: That's the thing about being a tight end.
Speaker 9: You have the opportunity to run routes, catch the ball, run,
Speaker 9: block pass bro Trey Burton threw a touchdown in the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl so I mean, like, technically, you can do
Speaker 9: about everything. You know, I've had a couple of rushes
Speaker 9: in my career, so it's like, you have the opportunity
Speaker 9: to do everything, so you know, why not try to
Speaker 9: be great at everything and be the most well rounded
Speaker 9: group in football.
Speaker 2: Ever apologized for pancaking anybody on the field.
Speaker 12: That's actually funny. I have before. Yeah, I was like
Speaker 12: sorry about that, Come on my bad. Okay, all right,
Speaker 12: it's up with a couple.
Speaker 2: Give me the dates though for tight End University. When
Speaker 2: this is all happening next.
Speaker 9: Monday, June seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth. It's going to be
Speaker 9: a fantastic time. Actually cool too. We have a cool
Speaker 9: spin this year where you rented out. It's called the
Speaker 9: Brooklyn Bowl downtown Nashville. It's like a big concert hall
Speaker 9: and we're gonna have like live country music. We have
Speaker 9: a full country concert.
Speaker 12: There.
Speaker 9: Got some special guests. I don't know if I'm supposed
Speaker 9: to release them, but I know I got I got
Speaker 9: a couple. You want to hear any of them?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 9: Uh. We got John Party coming in, we got Chase
Speaker 9: Rice coming in, and we.
Speaker 12: Got Jelly Roll coming in. Whoa should be a good one.
Speaker 2: Jelly. I think Jelly rolls collabor collaborating with M and
Speaker 2: M on something, or they're doing a song together and.
Speaker 12: I saw that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they performed together. He's incredible. Uh, what an absolute
Speaker 9: fantastic human being.
Speaker 2: You could put him at left tackle.
Speaker 12: I think he's more of a guard.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think he's.
Speaker 9: More of a guard. Maybe maybe No.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a polling guard. I mean
Speaker 2: he made me a stationary guard.
Speaker 12: It depends what offense like. Maybe like old school Raiders
Speaker 12: and that's what I'm thinking. Just just big meaty guys.
Speaker 2: Uh, you're a good sport. Good to talk to you.
Speaker 2: I hope the off season is good and uh, good
Speaker 2: luck at tight end University.
Speaker 12: George, Thanks so much man. Always a pleasure to talk
Speaker 12: to you.
Speaker 2: George Kittle, Niners tight end and Pro bowler five times
Speaker 2: in his eight seasons with the forty nine ers. You
Speaker 2: know you still have some questions there, Brandon Ayuk with
Speaker 2: his contract. I think they flirted with trading Deebo Samuel
Speaker 2: in the off season, but they still have Christian McCaffrey there.
Speaker 2: They still have a good offensive line, good defensive line
Speaker 2: as well, and of course an offensive minded head coach.
Speaker 2: It brought pretty He talked about how close they got
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl or winning the Super Bowl recently.
Speaker 9: Got all its to the end.
Speaker 13: We're right there and weren't able to finish it. So
Speaker 13: for me, like I had that taste my mouth, and
Speaker 13: you know, get back into the gym, start slowly working
Speaker 13: into it. And then here no Ota is getting with
Speaker 13: Kyle and going over all the games, all the games
Speaker 13: that we played in every play and going over situational
Speaker 13: football and stuff and taking that and actually going out
Speaker 13: in the field and running things and repping things and
Speaker 13: throwing the receivers.
Speaker 2: So last year I didn't have that.
Speaker 13: So now that I'm able to attack those kinds of things,
Speaker 13: I feel like I've gotten better.
Speaker 2: Okay. There was another quarterback, former quarterback, sort of former
Speaker 2: quarterback in the news, Christian Hackenberg. He was drafted by
Speaker 2: the Jets I think second round pick, came out of
Speaker 2: Penn State. Oh, he had all the fanfare after his
Speaker 2: freshman year. He would be the number one pick in
Speaker 2: the draft. There's always the quarterback who's not in the
Speaker 2: current draft that were salivating over. Oh my god, if
Speaker 2: this guy could come out now he'd be the number
Speaker 2: one pick. Well, Christian Hackenberg when he did come out,
Speaker 2: was a second round pick. He was on the Ross
Speaker 2: Tucker podcast and he talked about the problem with the
Speaker 2: fit of the New York Jets.
Speaker 14: New York was probably the last place I should have
Speaker 14: gone in terms of the market, the expectations, the way
Speaker 14: it was, and you know, my rookie year, we ended
Speaker 14: up keeping four quarterbacks, so there was just not a
Speaker 14: lot of opportunity for me to develop and grow, no plan,
Speaker 14: and kind of a up and down organization, and it
Speaker 14: was just one of those things where I think just
Speaker 14: the timing and where it ended up just wasn't in
Speaker 14: the cards for me at that position. And then, you know,
Speaker 14: when I look at it introspectively, I was young. I
Speaker 14: needed a lot of help, and I needed a lot
Speaker 14: of direction and guidance, and I never sought that out.
Speaker 2: So that's where my.
Speaker 14: Shortcoming was is I didn't do all those things until
Speaker 14: it was ultimately too late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that he's taken ownership of this,
Speaker 2: and it's easy to blame the Jets, but Christian Hackenberg
Speaker 2: wasn't an NFL quarterback because if you were, after you
Speaker 2: get kicked to the curb by the Jets, you would
Speaker 2: have been picked up by somebody other than somebody in
Speaker 2: the arena league. He couldn't play in the NFL. Plain
Speaker 2: and simple. I think this is where you have non
Speaker 2: trained eyes looking at somebody and good boy, if he
Speaker 2: could come out now, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you get the trained eye the scouts, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they're going, no, this guy is not an
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, and he goes into second round. Yes, you
Speaker 2: do go to the Jets. I get all of that,
Speaker 2: But Kristin Hackenberg, if he could have played, another team
Speaker 2: would have saw that and they would have given them
Speaker 2: the opportunity. Also, we know what happened with the Patriots,
Speaker 2: their mess, certainly at the quarterbacking position. Mac Jones. Mac
Speaker 2: Jones was a Pro Bowl quarterback. They were a good
Speaker 2: team as rookie year, but that's when he had Josh
Speaker 2: McDaniels as his offensive coordinator. Then after that he had
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia. He also had Joe Judge, a special teams guy,
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia defensive coordinator and as an offensive coordinator, and
Speaker 2: then Bill Belichick's son, I believe, was an offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 3: Like they kind of threw everybody out there at some point.
Speaker 2: Well, you've got to have consistency with your offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: so you're running the same system and you're listening to
Speaker 2: the same voice in your head. Damian Harris, former running
Speaker 2: back with the Patriots, had this to say on the
Speaker 2: Athletic Football Podcast. What happened to.
Speaker 15: Mac Jones in New England was not because of Mac
Speaker 15: jo Zones.
Speaker 12: What happened in New England to Mac.
Speaker 15: Jones was because of the fact you took away an
Speaker 15: offensive coordinator who coached him to be a Pro bowler
Speaker 15: and almost coached us to winning our division with a
Speaker 15: rookie quarterback in his first year. And then you take
Speaker 15: whenever Josh McDaniels left, Then you take Matt Patrician, who's
Speaker 15: coach defense his entire life, Joe Judge, who has been
Speaker 15: a special teams coach, and then you just throw him
Speaker 15: in there and be like, hey, coach this kid up.
Speaker 15: He's a first round pick, you know, but as long
Speaker 15: as you teach him what I say, everything's gonna be fine.
Speaker 15: And one fine. Bill Belichick being stuck in his ways
Speaker 15: was very much so like, as long as I am here,
Speaker 15: as long as I am the top dog at this organization,
Speaker 15: no matter who, no matter where, what position, where they coach, whatever,
Speaker 15: we will have success.
Speaker 2: Well, we know how that turned down. Is Mac Jones
Speaker 2: is starting quarterback in the NFL. I'd say a borderline
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. I know he was in New England and
Speaker 2: maybe if you coach him up, you know, I if
Speaker 2: I put him in San Francisco and Brock Purty in
Speaker 2: New England, is Rock Purty going to have a similar fate.
Speaker 2: Probably so. But you know this is where it's the
Speaker 2: luck of the draft. Where you go, who takes you,
Speaker 2: what's their infrastructure, what kind of consistency do you have weapons?
Speaker 2: Do I go later in the first round or the
Speaker 2: second round and I'm going to a better team. That's
Speaker 2: what happens sometimes. That is the biggest factor in success
Speaker 2: and failure in the NFL at that position, because there
Speaker 2: have been a lot of talented quarterbacks who go to
Speaker 2: bad teams, get bad habits, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they get kicked to the curve. They lost their confidence. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: you get some Rock Purty, mister irrelevant, going to a
Speaker 2: Niner team that has as many weapons, if not more
Speaker 2: so than anybody else in football. Okay, you got a
Speaker 2: really good head start and you have an offensive minded
Speaker 2: head coach, so you got a chance here. And he
Speaker 2: has proven that he is a good quarterback. Good quarterback,
Speaker 2: but also that comes into you've got to take advantage
Speaker 2: of the weapons you have, just like Jalen Hurts. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's a great quarterback, but I think
Speaker 2: he got a real head start going second round to
Speaker 2: the Eagles, who have a great offensive line. They got
Speaker 2: as many weapons as anybody in the NFC. Now you
Speaker 2: add Saquon Barkley. I don't know if he's a standalone
Speaker 2: great quarterback. There aren't many great standalone like I can
Speaker 2: do this. You know, Brady did this for the most
Speaker 2: part in his career. Brady did this. It was all
Speaker 2: interchangeable parts there. Now, they did have Gronk, they had
Speaker 2: Hernandez for a while, they had Randy Moss for a while.
Speaker 2: But he was making Dion Branch into a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2: You know, he had that ability to make Julian Edelman
Speaker 2: better than what he was, Wes Welker better than what
Speaker 2: he was now. It's rare when you get a standalone
Speaker 2: talent like that. Who's able every year you know they're
Speaker 2: they're they're changing, they're changing. You know Aaron Rodgers did
Speaker 2: that in Green Bay. It was a roster that he
Speaker 2: didn't get first round wide receivers. They did have a
Speaker 2: good running game, good offensive line, but that ability to
Speaker 2: be able to I can make somebody better and that's
Speaker 2: hard to do. But Mac Jones wasn't able to do
Speaker 2: that in New England. Yes, Martin does.
Speaker 5: Mahomes have that combination of great athletic skill as a
Speaker 5: quarterback and also mix that with a consistent franchise, so
Speaker 5: he's got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: Well, he fell into a great situation there. I mean
Speaker 2: they had Tyreek Hill, they had Travis Kelce, they had
Speaker 2: Andy Reid. Right there. You got a good head start
Speaker 2: and he didn't need to start his first year. It
Speaker 2: was ideal for Patrick Mahomes. And I've said this before
Speaker 2: and people always get bent out of shape if I
Speaker 2: put Patrick Mahomes on Carolina. He's a curiosity. He's not
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback. But when he's in the
Speaker 2: situation to deliver, when you need to deliver with the
Speaker 2: weapons and play big and big games. That's why he's
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback. It's the luck of the draw,
Speaker 2: the luck of the draft. I think Justin Fields can
Speaker 2: still be a starter in the NFL. He just wasn't
Speaker 2: you know. He couldn't be everything the Bears needed him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Bryce Young can play, and we
Speaker 2: might not find out until he goes to his second team.
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. We'll get phone
Speaker 2: calls coming up, and the great actor Lawrence Fishburne will
Speaker 2: join us coming up in about a half hour from now.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2: Wapp US Open coverage begins on Thursday. This is at
Speaker 2: Pinehurst number two. It's a historically great golf course. It
Speaker 2: is no fun to play. It is beautiful area. Love Pinehurst,
Speaker 2: love the people, love the environment. I like Pinehurst number eight.
Speaker 2: I think that's a fazzio design. But I played Pinehurst
Speaker 2: number two. It's one of the longest, least enjoyable days
Speaker 2: of my life. It is a extremely olenging golf course.
Speaker 2: Now that's from a high handicapper weekend warrior here, but
Speaker 2: even the pros are going to complain about this because
Speaker 2: the greens look like if you had a turtle that
Speaker 2: was buried and you put a green on top of it.
Speaker 2: That's what it's like. It just rolls off the side.
Speaker 2: It's going to be fast, it's gonna be warm down there,
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to have some people are
Speaker 2: going to go, oh, this this is a trudge. But
Speaker 2: US Open starts on Thursday, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler against the field. Looking at the odds here,
Speaker 2: he's the overwhelming favorite here. And once again we're getting
Speaker 2: into that Tiger territory. Tiger plus two twenty to make
Speaker 2: the cut at the US Open. Although there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot of coverage surrounding Tiger once at the US Open,
Speaker 2: it's going to be like Scotti, Scheffler, Rory, McElroy hey,
Speaker 2: but Tiger Woods is going to be in there still
Speaker 2: leading the coverage are certainly part of the headlines for
Speaker 2: the coverage there. It's Scheffler plus three hundred to win,
Speaker 2: Xander Schaffley plus eleven hundred, Rory plus eleven hundred, Colin
Speaker 2: Morikawa plus fourteen hundred, Bryson Deshambeau plus eighteen hundred. That's it.
Speaker 2: So right now it's Scotty Scheffler's to lose. Basically, poll
Speaker 2: results for hour two seat not O'Connor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got two up there, one negative, one positive. Okay,
Speaker 3: who's having the best week the Celtics, the Panthers or
Speaker 3: the Yukon Huskies right now, Yukon Husky is again recency
Speaker 3: bias with fifty percent of the vote. After that, the
Speaker 3: Celtics got about twenty nine percent.
Speaker 2: Pretty good, pretty good week for them. Yeah, they're gonna win. Well,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win the NBA Championship. But going
Speaker 2: up two games to none, that's a pretty good start there.
Speaker 2: But Yukon keeping Dan Hurley for the foreseeable future that's
Speaker 2: a big win as well. Rich in North Carolina, Hi, Rich,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? Hey Dan?
Speaker 16: Thanks for taking my call? Ye six two two O six.
Speaker 16: I want to I want to disagree with you about
Speaker 16: the Carolina Panther comparison. Yes, yes, Now, if if Patrick
Speaker 16: Mahomes was on the team now, it it'd be a
Speaker 16: joke because our owner has had a fire sale and
Speaker 16: got rid of everybody. And but back when Patrick Mahons
Speaker 16: came in the league. I mean, we would have had
Speaker 16: Greg Olsen at tight end, which he's not Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 16: but he's still upper echelant on the tight ends. We
Speaker 16: had Dj Moore, who was a top ten receiver back
Speaker 16: when Patrick came in the league, and we would have
Speaker 16: had Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm talking about now because I'm talking about
Speaker 2: Bryce Young now rich That's that's what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: not when he would have been drafted in who Carolina had. Yes,
Speaker 2: Carolina had a talented team. I'm talking about if he
Speaker 2: had the roster that Bryce Young has or Rock Perty had,
Speaker 2: that it would be different. You know, if I put
Speaker 2: Mahomes on that roster, they probably are going to do
Speaker 2: some exciting things. But they're not doing anything with Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick Mahomes can only do so much. And
Speaker 2: that's the point I'm trying to make. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Bryce Young can play, but Carolina has done a
Speaker 2: disservice to him. They don't have any you know, talent
Speaker 2: surrounding him, and you have to trade up to get him,
Speaker 2: and you give up a first round pick as well,
Speaker 2: and you don't have anything to show for it. He
Speaker 2: might be a good quarterback, he might be better when
Speaker 2: he goes to his second team. Here. It's just you
Speaker 2: have to be in the right place, the landing spot
Speaker 2: for a quarterback. How's my offensive line? What kind of
Speaker 2: continuity do I have at my head coach slash offensive coordinator?
Speaker 2: What kind of weapons do I have? You have that
Speaker 2: you got a pretty good chance of being successful. Final
Speaker 2: Hour in the Way. Actor Lawrence Fishburne will join us.
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