1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: A envy Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: We got our guest host, Kim Whitley joining us today. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: That's right. Kim said, I had to be here for 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: this one. 5 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: That's why she was telling the stories behind the scenes 6 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: before y'all brothers walked in. We have the honesty brothers 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: said welcome, Yes. 8 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Thank you. 9 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 4: How y'all feeling thank you? Thank you? We good. 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Kim was telling us all types of stories before you 11 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: guys walked in, about shows, performances and all this other stuff. 12 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 5: Years. 13 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 6: Earnie and Ron, let me tell you something this right here. 14 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 6: The unique sound. That's the one thing I want everybody 15 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 6: to understand. 16 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 7: They have had a unique sound for years and the decades, 17 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 7: Like you know, from early childhood to now. 18 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 6: You think about how long your music you've gone through generations. 19 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 6: I just you know, a bow down about that. 20 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Seven decades in the business. 21 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: Wow eight. 22 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 8: Every since nineteen fifty nine. 23 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: It was her first hip record, Shout nineteenth is about 24 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: sixty three or sixty four years now, number one record 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 4: for five weeks and number one album and no, no, 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: the album it's been there on thirty eight weeks. 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: How do you keep reinventing yourself. I mean, because it's 28 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: it seems like it's new every time with feelings. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: That's from God. You know, it's just just we've been 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: blessed with. 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: So many writers and young writers and new writers and 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: you know and and og writers and they all love 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: to work with you guys. Why do you think that is? 34 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: Because you know, uh, it's wow, it's hard. It's really 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: hard to explain, but uh, we just enjoy every minute 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: of doing what we do, you know. 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: And do you ever get surprised, like you look at 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the verses with how many young fans you have and 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: how many new fans that you guys, you know, turned 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: on to you from the verses and things like that. 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: It's calling you a cat. 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: Daddy just walking through the airport kids five six years 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: old one, Hey, that's mister Riggs. 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 7: You know, let me tell you that last bitch you 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 7: had on Instagram, I don't know you had to black 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 7: and white or I'm telling you now I'm a. 47 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 6: Friend, Caddy. 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 7: But you look y'all when I tell you y'all still 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 7: have this sex appeal? Do y'all understand that? 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 6: All right? It's just so good. 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 7: I just I ask my question is what is your 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 7: favorite songs. But what is your favorite song to sing? 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 7: What is y'all's favorite song? 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: Wow? You know every night we have to do certain songs. 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: You know, it's just maybe stuff like. 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 6: That's that's not hard or Shout. 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: We have to do that every night, you know. And uh, 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: you go through the app when you were in anytown, 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: we see people at at weddings and they always always 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: doing that song, you know, and it really a it's 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: really a great feeling and want somebody do your song 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: like that, especially when it's sixty three years old, you. 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 9: Know, because I say, nobody, nobody plans out a seven 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 9: decade career. So when y'all first recorded Shout, and you know, 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 9: Shout came out, what did y'all think y'all careers were 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 9: going to look like? Well, we assessed y'all back then. 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: Well, everybody was excited. Now when we would go on shows, 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: they would have to stop the show because people would 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: be shouting in the audience and making people sense it 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: out in your chair and so you know, that felt great, 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: I mean that really felt great. You know, we didn't 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: know what was going to last this long, because nobody 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: knows that, you know. 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: But from the beginning let's start from the beginning for 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: people that don't know you. What made you, guys want 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: to create this group? What made you start singing? Was 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: it church? 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: Was it? 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Mama was bothering you said, sing? 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: Boy, singer? 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: Like? 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: What made you say, yeah, I'm gonna start. 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: This My mother and father. My mother was a teacher, 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: you know, she taught you know music. I was singing 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: at two years old. I won a war one a 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: war bond uh at church or you know, at two 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: years old. So we had a group ever since I 88 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: was four or five? 89 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Was it always Osley Brothers? Yes, that was the name 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: of the group, said, no, other name's always been That's it. 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: And we were like skeptical when we came to New 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: York because we said, hey, they're not gonna remember our name, 93 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: you know, Frankie Nyman and teenagers and all, you know, 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: and we were wondering, said, well, I hope they remember 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: our name. You know. 96 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: When did y'all realize? Uh, y'all, y'all, y'all had something here. 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 8: Uh when we were in Cincinnat. 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 7: Uh. 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: We want everything that they put us up, you know, 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: every amateur everything, television shows, everything, We want it all. 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: From that time, all the way up. 102 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was before shot yeah wow. 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: And with your mom being a teacher, did she never 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: not want you to get into this industry called the 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: music industry where you're on the road and all that. 107 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: They wanted us to be in and you know, on 108 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: you know, the Mill Brothers. My father wanted us to 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, have a group and last as long as 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: the Mill Brothers. Then my younger brother, Ernie and Marvin, 111 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: they weren't even you know, in the music business then, 112 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: you know, and uh, they came to New York at 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: New Jersey after he re called a twist and shout 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: and shout, and they like watched us, and uh, we 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: wanted my father always wanted us to be self contained, 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 4: you know. And so Ernie started playing drums, and then 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: he went to playing guitar. Then my little brother played bass. 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: Then my brother in law was playing keyboards, and we 119 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 4: became that self contained group. 120 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: And the father said, let's not pay anybody on the 121 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: outside anywhere. 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: Daddy said, Keith Autimore and that was that. 123 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 7: Like Ernie, did you was that self taught those instruments. 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, let's start with drums first. 125 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. At the time, Jimmy Hendrix was living at the house, 126 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, and he was playing just. 127 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there, you know, like March of sixty three 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: to like November of sixty five. 129 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: Why was Jimmy living at your house? 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: Well, he was our guitar player, you know, and so 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: you know, we watched him, Ernie watched him. You know, 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: we didn't know Ernie was gonna wind up playing guitar, 133 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: you know, because he was playing drums at the time. 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: And uh later on, Ernie started playing the guitar. And 135 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: when I wrote the song It's Your Thing, you know, 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: Ernie picked up his bass and start playing a bass. Uh, 137 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: I said. You know, we were rent at the uh 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: the session in New York and Ernie I said, hey, 139 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: you need to play bass on this song, you know, 140 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: and he played bass on this your Thing. You know. 141 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 8: From that time on, the family. 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Could be a good thing and it could be a 143 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: bad thing, right because sometimes too much of your brother, 144 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: it's just too much. How much fighting did y'all get into. 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: We didn't have no fights, you know, no fights you know, hey, 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: oh they would heed you. We were close. My father 147 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: taught us, hey, you better you know. At at the time, 148 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: when I was young, we all had to stay together. 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: When my older brother had wanted to go out to 150 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: a party, they had to take me and my other brother, 151 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, he had a girlfriend. We were waiting on 152 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: the outside of the house. I don't want you all 153 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: always stay together. 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, how are things now? Because I know you one 155 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: of your brothers are suing you. 156 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: That's not really a problem, you know, it's it's hard 157 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: for me to discuss it now, but it's not. That's 158 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: not a problem. And what's whatsoever? 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Did you have the problem early on with owning your 160 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: own masters and stuff like that? Did y'all own that? 161 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: Or if not, did y'all get it back? 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: Yes? 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 8: We own We owned some of them, some of it. 164 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: We had started a record company and nineteen sixty nine 165 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: Teenage Records and all the way up until this point. 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: Now I have another company which is alright, Top ten, 167 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: and it owns everything. 168 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: How do y'all only own some of it? Don't? Don't 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: the masters go back to you after a certain point? 170 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: Well, it's cordinal. It's all according to what you sign. 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: You know. At some time when we started off, we 172 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: signed certain things in there, and we had certain claws 173 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 4: in our contract that after ten years we would it 174 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: all would come back. 175 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: Y'all. Y'all, y'all should have been that eight times already. 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: Hell, it's good to have you mess. 177 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 7: I mean, what's going on with Ed Sharon and this 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 7: Marvin Gaye situation? 179 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: Have you all? 180 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 7: I don't know if you know what's going on, but 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 7: Ed Sharon is being sued by Marvin Gaye's family over sampling. 182 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 7: Have you all ever heard something and you were like, 183 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 7: wait a minute, so right right? 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 6: That sounds like us? 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: If you don't ever been. 186 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: Like, wait a minute, Well, the rappers always uh had 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: respect for our work, and so I love. 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: It when you call me bigger. 189 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: That's between the sheets. And today was a good day. 190 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: I achieved. 191 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: That was fort steps in the dark. Uh, there's a 192 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: very strong association. 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 8: Uh, we have more samples than anybody. 194 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: Thousands. 195 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Do you have to clear everything you listen to it? 196 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: We have to clear. 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: So when you heard Biggie right the first time, you're 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Biggie right, I'm sure Puff called y'all and I heard 199 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that Biggie was talking about, what was your 200 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: first mind frame with Because I'm sure was a puff 201 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: that called you. 202 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: We flipped out. You flipped out. 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: The first time I heard that I knew he had 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: a head, you know, uh, because it was done in 205 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: such a signature way for him. You know, I'll see 206 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: you some leaders the dirt because you weever Gonnare. I 207 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: started laughing, but I know it was a hit. 208 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Though he didn't reach out. Though he didn't reach out before. 209 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 6: D oh, yeah he did. 210 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 8: Were at the studio together, were talking about the one. 211 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: You know, he wanted to do other records with us, 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: you know, he studio Big Yes and Puffy They Puffy 213 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: did a couple of couple of records with us. You know. 214 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: One of them was called float On. I think the 215 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: number one song here in New York. We had, uh 216 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: that the record in between the sheets, jay Z, every 217 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: just everybody, every villain. Yeah, he became. 218 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Missed the big. 219 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: When is the last time y'all didn't get a check? 220 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: Day y'all didn't get a check? 221 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 8: I don't know. 222 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: I can't answer that. 223 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 6: It's even during the pandemic, y'all came up with friends 224 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 6: and family and. 225 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 5: It was everywhere. 226 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 7: I said, what in the world I'm trying to tell 227 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 7: everybody I'm your cousin. 228 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Then I was Then you turned the villain, mister Biggs. 229 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: Now break that down and and you know, for a 230 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: long time, that's what everybody looked at you as mister Biggs. 231 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: So how was that that? What that was yours? It 232 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: was kels. 233 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: R Kelly wrote the song keeping on a download and 234 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: he said, I wrote this song and I see you 235 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: doing it, and my mother wanted you to do it. 236 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: I met R. Kelly on sunset. He's driving the car 237 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: and he rolled the window and. 238 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: Do hey stop stopping. 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: I was walking coming out of the studio and he said, hey, man, 240 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: we gotta talk. We gotta talk. I want you to 241 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: I want you on my record. I want you. And 242 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 4: so I listened to the. 243 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: Do you know who he was at the time. Did 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: you know who he was at the time? 245 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he had out a couple of songs. Yeah, 246 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: I think the Body calling Me and something. And so 247 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: his mother was a big fan of ours, and uh 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: so she had told him all our songs, and so 249 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: we got together to do that download and he said, 250 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: I'll see you being mister big big, you being mister Biggs. 251 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: I want you. We're gonna come and we're gonna do 252 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 4: this video. We want to I want to hear your 253 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: foot when you come in the studio. That's how the 254 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: video was. R. Kelly was really a genius man. Uh 255 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: he uh with with doing music with his whole mind 256 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: and thoughts, you know, and we went on, we did 257 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: other songs, you know, Contagious I had number one albums 258 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: with him and uh sold millions of records. You know. 259 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: Our first album that we did with Contagious is over 260 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: albums over three million, and uh that which was which 261 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: which was the first the first four dream works at 262 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: the time, and uh after that he did the album 263 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: with with me that came to choice number one. You know. 264 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: I think uh one of the the album that had 265 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: Contagious in it was number two, and the one was 266 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: the number one, and on and on and on. 267 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: Any fear at the time was you were you know, 268 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: you were shout and you were between the sheets, and 269 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: now you were the villains, you know with the cane 270 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: with the sword, you know what I mean. 271 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: Well, you know, my brother gave me the cane. My 272 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: brother took a picture with the cane. Uh I don't know, yeah, 273 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: and uh he gave it to me for my birthday 274 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: and I start caring the kinge you know, I didn't 275 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: know what that's about. The you know, rout the king 276 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: will wind up being a video talking about you're gonna 277 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: hit me with the cane and you know, you know 278 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: that type of thing. But hey man, it's been wonderful, wonderful, 279 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: you know. And let me let me say, we watch 280 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: you guys, I mean how much I know everything that 281 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: you do, everything that you do, and we watch you 282 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: and I think what you're doing is so great man, 283 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: and never stopped doing. 284 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 9: I feel like I feel like you've been in the 285 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 9: villain before though I'm sure you know some man has 286 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 9: approached you, but being. 287 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: With a woman, I don't know about that. 288 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 9: What if toll life look for y'all, You know, after 289 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 9: all of these years, they ain't like it was twenty 290 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 9: years ago, thirty years ago, forty years ago, the toy 291 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 9: life look for y'all. 292 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: Now, you know, we wouldn't know what to do if 293 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: we wasn't doing the chour or we wentn't singing. And 294 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: then seeing the response from the people, you know, just 295 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: watching the response and and getting to see what they'd 296 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: like and what song the hell do you want to? 297 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: You want me to sing? Hello? It's me? You want 298 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: me to sing Contagious? Do you want me to sing 299 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: smooth selling, you know, And I do that every night, 300 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, And uh, I don't know what I would 301 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: be doing if I didn't do that. 302 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 9: Always wonder how different does the world look the brothers 303 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 9: like y'all because y'all literally were out before you know, 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 9: civil rights, before the civil rights era. You know, like 305 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 9: what was life like back then? Touring in the fifties 306 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 9: and sixties. 307 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: We were always just just want wanting to be the 308 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: number one thing. And that is no lie. We wanted 309 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: to be the number one thing when in England when 310 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: we went to England and uh with the Beatles and 311 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: the Rolling Stones and and Elton John and them, people 312 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: like the Beatles were imitating us, and uh, they said, 313 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 4: and Paul McCartney would tell you, say, hey, if it 314 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: don't be for the oy said brother, we would still 315 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: be hearing in Liverpool. You know. Uh did we wanted. 316 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, discrimination or anything. 317 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 7: I just wondering, like I said, what it was like then, 318 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: because you all something different. 319 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 6: You're together, you're a. 320 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 7: Family, but you're going all over the world. Did you 321 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 7: ever experience anything like that? 322 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: A couple of couple of couple of times we went 323 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: to a club one time and and niggas. You know, 324 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: when we got ready to go in, the guys say, hey, man, 325 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: hold it, I thought you guys were white, you know, 326 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: he said, and he paid us right there, say you know, 327 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: you know you don't have to go. 328 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 8: You know, it's it's a lot of different type of 329 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 8: people here. 330 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: And we laughed about it because we got paid. We 331 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: didn't have to go on. 332 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: He was telling you don't go in. 333 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: Kuker plans and all that. 334 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 9: Do you do you remember how much the world changed 335 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 9: after the Civil rights. 336 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know I would have thought 337 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: it would be way different now, you know with uh, 338 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: you know when when Luther King was doing this thing, man, 339 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: you know, start changing, start changing, start changing, you know, 340 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: and we were hoping for you know, it's changed, but 341 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 4: you know, hey, it didn't start going back a little 342 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 4: pushing a little, you know. I think the people are 343 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: more intelligent now, you know, the young people, the young people. 344 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna take that, you know, and uh, the blessing 345 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: from God. You know, I don't know what's going to happen, 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: no one, no one knows what's gonna happen. 347 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 8: Hey, I'm gonna do all I can, all. 348 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: I can did y'all get involved in any way back then? 349 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 350 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: We did everything they asked us to do, and we 351 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: wanted to do more, you know. 352 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 8: But at the time you got to have you had 353 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 8: people like Sammy. 354 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: Davis and James Brown, everybody, Eretha Franklin, you know, all 355 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: those people, you know, and we were we were in 356 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: the crowd doing our things. 357 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, who's your biggest competition back then if there 358 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: was any black black competitions. 359 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: James Brown and Sam Cook, you know, Jackie Wilson, you know, 360 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: and now we would do when when we were on 361 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: the show with them, they couldn't go home. Man. When 362 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: we did that song shout hey that that we shut 363 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 4: it down. 364 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: You know what when y'all wrote music, was y'all trying 365 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: to be like, no, we need to make a record 366 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: that they know that they can't follow. Is that the 367 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: way your mind framed? 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 8: That's what That's what we were looking for. 369 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 4: And we didn't get and and we hit that when 370 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: we had It's your Thing, and from that one on 371 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: it we went, hey, straight to the top. 372 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: What is that? That was kind of like the Bobby 373 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Brown My prerogative with that. 374 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, I was it was like a dream to me, 375 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: and uh, that's that was a dream that I had, 376 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: I said. When I woke up, I started humming the song. 377 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: I said, no, it's not gonna get away. And I 378 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: went down to my mother's house and Ernie was there 379 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: and he picked up his base, you know, I said, 380 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: I got the song me and my brother, I said, 381 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: and I sung it for him and they said hey, 382 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: and we put it on tape and went in the 383 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 4: studio and I did it one time in the studio, 384 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 4: sang at one time while the band was playing it. 385 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 4: And then they said one it was time to do 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: do our part. Say, hey, I already did it. 387 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: So it came in dream. It wasn't like a phrase 388 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: y'all was saying. 389 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 4: Came to me in the dream. And uh, you know 390 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: at the time, people were saying, you know, it's your thing, 391 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: you know, uh do your do your thing that you know. 392 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 8: That expression was out, but uh. 393 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: Came to me in a dream. 394 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: You know. 395 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: What about between the sheets? How did that? How was 396 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: that song? 397 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 398 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: Between the sheets? There's a commercial used to watch. You 399 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: can still see it on your computer. Number five. 400 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: One. 401 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: One was at a far into the pool and the 402 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: guy was at the opposite end, and he dove into 403 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: the water and he came up through her leg and 404 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: they said, shared a fan of see And I always 405 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: liked that commercial. And I had my guitar with me 406 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: with the sound down, and I thought, what would the 407 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: music be like? And I started playing the chords between 408 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: the sheets. And then we got into the studio Marvel 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: and Chris, and he says, hey, man, okay, you got 410 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: any lyrics? You got the musicment you got an lyrics? 411 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: I said that, yeah, Hey, girl, ain't no mystery at 412 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: least as far as I can see. I want to 413 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: keep you here laying next to me, Sharon, I love, 414 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: and I was stuck mm hmm. Chris picked up a 415 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: legal Patson sharing a love between the sheets. I said, 416 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 3: there you go. And Marvin polystoft of us the song lyrically. 417 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: Wow, what was what was the young lady that that 418 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: gave you that inspiration? 419 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Besides that? 420 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: Because now you see like that's you know when I 421 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: refer to that person as my muse. Okay, you know, 422 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: so that could be anyone. You know, it could be 423 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: one of my guitarists. For example, think of all my 424 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: guitarists as female. So you know that could be anyone, 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: and of course in that kind of explanation, he's just 426 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: into the person that he's with, and there's intimacy there 427 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: because you can't see what's going on. It's between the sheets. 428 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Some people think that is missing from R and B music. 429 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 9: Now, like that's one of the reasons that, you know, 430 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 9: people like Puff said R and B is day. 431 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: You know. Ernie started writing songs about nineteen seventy three, 432 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 4: songs like Harved's for the World at Your Best, for 433 00:23:54,200 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 4: your Love, the song that we did would and say Yeah, 434 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: make me say it again, make me say it again, 435 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: Fight the Power, just on and on and on and on, 436 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: you know, and that that that was a great thing 437 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: for us because we could do our thing, release our records, 438 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: and when we wanted to really release you know, Uh, 439 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: I could sing anything that I wanted to sing, you know, 440 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: I decided those those songs like Hello, those songs like 441 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: Summer Breefe from Listening and Adam the song uh love 442 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: the one you with, you know, and those turn out 443 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: to be big songs for us. But we we could 444 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: do anything that we wanted to do at the time. 445 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: And uh, my my other brother, he was writing songs 446 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: like uh, grew with you. 447 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: You know, have you ever written a song? Have you 448 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 7: ever written a song for someone else? And then said 449 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 7: I want to get that back? Should have kept that song? 450 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: Well, I when I one time, you know, I think 451 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: we were thinking about the money, and I said, hey, 452 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: Retha Franklin should do is your things? And so we 453 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: were trying to get fifteen thousand dollars for it at 454 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: the time, you know, and Uretha Franklin was late, late 455 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: at the studio and she didn't come in. 456 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: Frank she took the record. 457 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: Oh no, hear yeah, I get it. No, she was 458 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: one of my girlfriends. 459 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 10: What Yeah, that was one of my girlfriends at the time, 460 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 10: because she was mad at you and she didn't. 461 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: She was late and getting to the studio and she 462 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 4: didn't do the song. 463 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: Do you figure that argument later on because you know, 464 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: I know you crushed out or did she comes you 465 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: out for taking the record? 466 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: She did? 467 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: She did recorded your thing later on, she did produced 468 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: by Luther Vangels. 469 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened never came out. 470 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: It was on an album. 471 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: It came out. 472 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 4: To Clyde Davis wanted us us to produce it, and 473 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 4: we didn't. You know, we're doing something else and so 474 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: she was in the studio with Luther at the time. 475 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 4: So Luther did it. 476 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: How many girlfriends did you have back? 477 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 5: I got. 478 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just really I was. I 479 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: was so young man, and uh, you know, hey, you 480 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 4: lived a life. It wasn't like the girlfriends that you 481 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: guys have now. It was just like, hey, we were 482 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: talking about music, talking about doing music, and she was, yeah, 483 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: you know, when I get a I think, uh. 484 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: That y'all were between the sheets, is what you say? 485 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: You know? 486 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: I was I have on off telephone from that time 487 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 4: to now. Retha Franklin we talked maybe two and three 488 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: times a week even when she died, you know, shealing. 489 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 8: We were the best of friends. 490 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: My wife suggested that she used Jennifer Hudson in a 491 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 4: movie and we'd I said, well, I thought you're gonna 492 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: do uh Holly Berry. She said, Jennifer, Jennifer would be 493 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: the be you know, the person for a movie. Jennifer 494 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: came to see her to day and she sang a 495 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: song to us, so you know what that song is, 496 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: and Jennifers saying, she said, that's one of I say 497 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: brother songs. It was which the last song you sung. 498 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 4: That's how tight we. 499 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 6: Were here this You understand, I'm sitting I'm such a fan. 500 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Talking like this regular, but it is for him, right. 501 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 6: It's just so amazing. 502 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 7: It's your life and and and being a fan, and 503 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: like we were talking about like we we talking about 504 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 7: Joe Lbert. 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: You know, it's just our lives and you're just like 506 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 6: read we talked every day. 507 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 7: What I look at this and I look at the 508 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 7: span of how long you've been well, if you could 509 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 7: just is there a story of the craziest thing someone 510 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 7: did on stage to get your attention or in the audience, 511 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 7: because that probably be something I did, chase the tour 512 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 7: bus or something like that. 513 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: Was there ever anything? 514 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 6: Did anybody throw anything on stage? Jump on stage? 515 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: I was on the stage singing uh uh los seal 516 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: and I fell on my knees and they have my 517 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: eyes and the lady threw a dress over me. She 518 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: never want no under. 519 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: Never mind, don't don't go there. 520 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: That was you know, when you coming up, You and 521 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or James Brown never got into a competition 522 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: type of thing. Competitives. 523 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: That's oh yeah, we were real tight with James Brown. 524 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: You know, Michael Jackson wanted to do. They wanted us 525 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: to produce him when he left Motown, but uh, I 526 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: think he was produced by We wanted to keep our 527 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: sounds and that's you know, and that's why we discussed 528 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: certain records that we were doing ourselves. You know. It's 529 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: kind of hard to come up with those records. You know, 530 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: we gotta do nine of them in the album, you know, 531 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: saying and were at the time. I didn't want Ernie 532 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 4: playing uh some of breeze on Michael Jackson cause he 533 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: was he was like big, you know, at the same 534 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: you know, like that would take something away from us. 535 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: And that was never a problem. The fact that you know, 536 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: everybody wanted you to produce and play for them, and 537 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: everybody wanted you to sing on their project. That never 538 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: created a riff. 539 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: Well, that was a discussion that we would have and 540 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: that and we would say, I don't think we should 541 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: do that at this time, you know, And uh, you know, 542 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. Anybody played a couple of things on 543 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: different people, you know, I don't know, but. 544 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't too much of that. 545 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 9: Was there any songs that y'all did that y'all didn't 546 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 9: believe in? But it ended up being a hit. 547 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: When I when I came down to the house for 548 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: them to do the song, uh uh I love the 549 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: One You With? It said hey man, really, I think, 550 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: hey man, we're gonna do this song, and uh, this 551 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: is that's what we're gonna do. And this was smash 552 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: for us. 553 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: You know. 554 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, did you ever say I told you so? 555 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: Uh? 556 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: To be honest, I think at that time I was 557 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: growing into whatever musician or songwriter I was eventually going 558 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: to be. It just had not manifested. So looked the 559 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: One You With as the song is a great song, 560 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: and obviously the way we did it, uh, it's like 561 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: an Iley Brother song, you know. So you know a 562 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: lot of times, you. 563 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 4: Know with. 564 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: Whatever you're gonna do in the future, you can't see, 565 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: but you have a feeling. 566 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 4: So that. 567 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: When we got ready to uh uh do three plus three, 568 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, we're gonna record that in California 569 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: and I'm like, California, Yeah, And now we're gonna do 570 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: the song that lady. 571 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: I said that lady, that's a cha cha Boxinova's. 572 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: He said, Nope, we're gonna change the temple, We're gonna 573 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: change the lyric, We're gonna change the melody and you 574 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: are gonna play. 575 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: Lead guitar on it. 576 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, you know, you don't know 577 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: until you know, until you do it. 578 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Was it a Was it a major effort because you know, 579 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: you listen to all your music and nothing sounds the same. 580 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: Was that something that you made sure that you focused 581 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: on to make sure that nothing was ever similar? You know, 582 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: the shout didn't sound like between the sheets, which didn't 583 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: sound like like like it was totally different. You know. 584 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: I remember when CBS first heard that Lady, they said, well, 585 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like it's your thing. It doesn't have 586 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: trumpets or sacophones on it, but we like it and 587 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: that you got elements of R and B dance funk, 588 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: but you also got a lead guitar sound on it. 589 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 3: That's unusual. How should we promote it? 590 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: And we were like, just go over the time that 591 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: we were trying to have a mostly like the groups 592 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: that came out in England beatles and everybody was self contained. 593 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: It wanted that self contained sound and that's what that's 594 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: what whos that Lady was about. That was the time 595 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: that Clyde Davis signed US T Neck Records over there 596 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: at CBS. You know, he was the one that listened 597 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: to it and you at it serious ear. You know, 598 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: he could he knew what the hit was and he 599 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 4: did say, uh, you all should sing it should be 600 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 4: another verse. Uh. We went back in the studio and 601 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: Ernie wrote another verse because we needed three verses, which 602 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 4: was no problem, you know. And then when we came back, 603 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: they the sony fired Clyde Davis for some bar misfits 604 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: or something he gave and this, and then we. 605 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 6: Said, hey, hey, we just signed it. 606 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 8: Don't worry about that. 607 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 4: Your record to be ours. And while we were going 608 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 4: through the arguing about Clyde David one number one, seventy. 609 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 9: Three, seventy three, you know, they always wanted like, you know, like, yeah, 610 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 9: y'all got on in the fifties, but you know that 611 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 9: was the time of you know, racial unrest. How come 612 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 9: the labels weren't I'm sure they were, but they had 613 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 9: no problem signing black acts. 614 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: Wonder what why, you know, I don't know, I don't 615 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 4: know the answer for that, but yeah, you know, it 616 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: was all it was always nat Keen Cole was built, 617 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: Capitol Records, you know, Charles Rae, Charles Atlantic Records, you know, 618 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 4: they you know, they know it would they would sell records, 619 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 4: you know. 620 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 7: Ah. 621 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: And that was during the Elvis Freshly time and doing 622 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: a fat Dominal time and Chuck Berry and you know, 623 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 4: little Richard, you know, and then came Johnny Mathis. You know. 624 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a time that you and Chris Brothers 625 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 7: and Earth Wind and Fire, I mean y'all were at 626 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 7: the top of the top these two groups. 627 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 6: Did you all become friends? Did you know each other 628 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 6: at that time? 629 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 7: And I just wanted to hear a little bit about 630 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 7: that relationship. 631 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: Oh man, my brother was crazy about them, and uh, 632 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 4: you know, uh right now, I feel ability is like, uh, 633 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: my brother in law would it was married to Crystal, 634 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: your oldest sister, and I you know, I thought they 635 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: were like so creative. My my brother was friends. 636 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: With Vertein, Marvin and Vertein. 637 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 8: Yeah all the time, you know. 638 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: Uh. When they had their record, the record, that's the 639 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 4: that's the way of the world. We would have had 640 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: our record out at the same time, my biggest album, 641 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: which was the Heated Song, But my brother was arguing 642 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 4: with me, the brother Rudolph, because she said it's another 643 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: song we should have an album. When we was back 644 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: going back. No, we could have six songs and three 645 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: slow songs in the album on one side and three 646 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: on the on the fast side. 647 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 8: Fight the Powers and we were arguing. 648 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 4: Back and forth, and that argument went on so long, 649 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: and uh, we didn't release our records at the same time. 650 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: But anyway they had their record was so successful and 651 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 4: our record was the biggest we ever had. 652 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: And with all these records that that you written and 653 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: produced and sang and I mean, you keep talking about record, 654 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, damn, it's a lot of records and 655 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: mershoes and all that other stuff. Was there ever a 656 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: time where things tight at all in the industry, like 657 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: where you know, could you speak to some of the 658 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: artists and sometimes they'd be like, yeah, it was kind 659 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: of tight. During this time we didn't have a hit 660 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: or we had to sell this. Was there ever a situation? 661 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: No, well, one when when when Marvi Gate came up 662 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: with the Sexual Healing, we came up with in between 663 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 4: the Sheets, When Teddy Prindergress did turn off the lights, 664 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: which we took him on tour with us all that 665 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 4: night and closed the door, we came up with don't 666 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 4: say good night, and we were calling on the phone hey, 667 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 4: so and so on, and so we laughing talking about 668 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 4: that I was making disrecord. 669 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 2: To each other. 670 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: So it never y'all never had no no financial situation 671 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: at all, no, no of that. 672 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: It was all friendly competition between all the legends. 673 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, no. 674 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 6: Okay, keep going. 675 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 5: We're not gonna just throw that out. 676 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: It was people that that actually had real beef with. 677 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: Let me think, I'm sure the beef is dead now, 678 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: so we're right right right. 679 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: You know. 680 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 4: No, no entertainer, no entertainer. But uh, the one beef 681 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 4: I did to have wind up having was with Michael. 682 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Bolton when he did Love is a Wonderful Thing. 683 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: Did one of our songs, you know, and went to 684 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 4: court and went to court for so many years and 685 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: we you know, we won that case and it's in 686 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: the book again. That's because it's the biggest money case 687 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: that you know that. 688 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: He had to pay. 689 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 6: He just went out and some one of your songs. 690 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, just love is Wonderful. But I wanted him to, 691 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: you know, hey man, he would. They didn't want to settle, 692 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: and hey went to court and he had a hundred 693 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: lawyers and uh. 694 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: Damn colonizing. 695 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: Ye And then he finally said that he ever come 696 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: back and be like, look, I apologize or I should 697 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: have gave you credit off. 698 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 6: No, damn never never apologized. 699 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 4: No, he s I think that case for for eight 700 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 4: eight million dollars, you know. 701 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: Jesus, they're paying the money. You got money. 702 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why they didn't have any problem. 703 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons, Ernie. Do you think RB dead? 704 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: I meant to ask you that earlier. 705 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: No, okay, no, no, no, uh not, as long as 706 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 3: there's all of that music, you know, waiting to be 707 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: discovered or rediscovered, you know, and of course you know, 708 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: we have a lot of divine grace still being here 709 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: and with our track record and the way that we 710 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: pursue the muse ourselves. No, it's anything but dead. It's 711 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: more live now than ever. Uh so, No, it's no. 712 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 7: Now do people call you or do you call like Beyonce? 713 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 7: Or do people call you or you called them? 714 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: Like? 715 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 6: How does that magic come together? Constantly? 716 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 5: Well? 717 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: I called her. 718 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 4: I called her, you know, we're talking about doing the 719 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 4: song early in her career. But I called her mother, 720 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: you know, and uh when her mother called her and 721 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: she said, yes, you know, she's a beautiful woman. 722 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 10: Man. 723 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 4: You know, Beyonce when it comes with us, I think 724 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 4: she just. 725 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 8: It came out the. 726 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 4: Same time our album came out, and mostly a person 727 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: would say, wait you go, y'all got to wait. You know, 728 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 4: we wanted to do videos and all that, but we 729 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: understood that she didn't do a video for her her record, 730 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 4: you know, if she had other plans and but that's 731 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 4: that's the biggest record for her right now, R and 732 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 4: B right now, it's still number one in California. 733 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 9: And I wonder what inspires y'all now, because when you 734 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 9: speak about how y'all want to inspire by Marvin and 735 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 9: Teddy Pendergrass, Like, who do y'all look around to now 736 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 9: and get inspired by? 737 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 2: Wow? 738 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 4: I look at uh, well, well it's some of the 739 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 4: rappers still. You know that we're doing records with now, 740 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 4: uh the rapper that take Off and Quavo did a 741 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 4: record with us, and we were talking about, you know, 742 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 4: what we was gonna do and what and when he 743 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 4: and when his death came about. 744 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: Man, it's just you know, y'all did a record with 745 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: him on his project. 746 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh no only it's yeah. And we did a record 747 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 4: with Two Chain, Then we did a record with the 748 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: Rick Cross then we did with Snoop Dogg. 749 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: You know, so, uh. 750 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 4: We look at that. That's the way the business is 751 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 4: sort of going, so we kind of I want to 752 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 4: keep our you know a thing going with that too. 753 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: At the same time, you know, I'm gonna do something 754 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 4: with Elton John uh and I'm gonna do something with Maria, 755 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna do something with uh I already uh Kinderslamar. 756 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 4: I did a couple of songs with him, and one 757 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 4: one of the Grammy you know, like it was like, 758 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: who's that lady? 759 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: You know, has anybody told you to go back in 760 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: the studio and redo your record like didn't like your 761 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: vocals or something like that? 762 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 4: Uh like which like. 763 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: Whatever like the like they might not like diverse, like 764 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 1: do it again. Let's say, let's say your wife also says, 765 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: like baby kind of flat today, go back in there 766 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: do whatever? Has that happened with you at all? 767 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 3: When when you listen to it's your thing, that vocal, 768 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 3: it's the first take. So he did that. He did 769 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 3: that live just one time, you know, so it ain't 770 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: like go and do it again. You know, most of 771 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 3: most of my songs are one take, even twists and 772 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 3: shout even shout, what's one take? 773 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, you know I I didn't even notice that 774 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 4: back there then, you know, wow, you know in between 775 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: the sheets and one one take? 776 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was there punching. Could you punch him 777 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: back then? Or do you have to do the whole 778 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: thing over? 779 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 4: Could one time? 780 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 6: You could? 781 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 3: But you're just rolling, you know. 782 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: And everybody had to be right. The band had to 783 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: be right. You had to be right for the. 784 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 8: Band that they already had to recorded. 785 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 3: So now you know, I went out to. 786 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: What happened to? What happened to? Like the other members 787 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: of the group, did it ever say in y'all that 788 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: y'all Look, it's just. 789 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: Y'all too well. My older brother passed and my younger 790 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 4: brother passed. My brother Rudolph, he decided to go into 791 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 4: his ministry. Uh. So basically, you know, it's just sme 792 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 4: and Ernie now, you know, Uh, we've been doing this 793 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 4: for about what how many years? 794 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: Quite a few, yeah, you know, more than more than 795 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: just say, nineteen seventy three to now. 796 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 4: That would be fifty wow. 797 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: But you know, like if I'm on it, I was 798 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 3: a bass player on this your thing when I was sixteen, 799 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 3: so well that would be fifty. 800 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 4: Sixty eighteen hours, fifty five years. 801 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 3: He had sixteen. 802 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 6: Something. 803 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 9: Do you all of us feel peerless because you know 804 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 9: so many of your peers have transitioned. 805 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I think about my brothers, and I 806 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 4: think about you know, it's not a day that goes by, 807 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 4: you know. I mean thinking about my older brother because 808 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 4: when this incredible, you know, and I think, you know, 809 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 4: I think about him being in heaven and watching watching 810 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 4: mm hmm, yeah, seeing them sending up prayers, sending down 811 00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 4: prayers for. 812 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 813 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 4: Amen. Yeah. 814 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: What about artists, other artists that you know with that transition. 815 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about people like Sam Cook. You know, 816 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye's a very good sprind of ours. Jackie Wilson 817 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 4: was very very close to us. James Brown was, He's 818 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 4: crazy about us, you know. You know, you know, I 819 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 4: go back with people like Burt back Rack. I did 820 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 4: an album with him. I think it was one of 821 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 4: my best albums. You know, it's singing his songs. 822 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 823 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 4: He just passed. Michael Jackson. We were crazy about him, 824 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 4: you know, you know, and I could go on and on. 825 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 4: You know, people like Jimmy Hendricks and you're. 826 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 6: Just, oh my god, I get better friends. 827 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 8: Franklin was my best friend. 828 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 4: You know. 829 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 7: Is there anyone that you haven't worked like? Is there 830 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 7: somebody who aspire? Is there anyone else out there that 831 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 7: you think about me? I mean you've hit everybody from 832 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 7: any generation. 833 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 4: I would have liked, you know it did something with 834 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: Whitney Houston and I had a. 835 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 8: Chance to do that, and I did one. 836 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: Song for her album and we'd sang and flew she 837 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 4: flew us on a back from somewhere from Atlanta, Georgia 838 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 4: or something. So she did one of those days, Yeah, yeah, 839 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 4: which was a sample of a between the sheets. I 840 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 4: would like to seriously did something with her. She's a 841 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 4: great singer. 842 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: Why didn't that happen. 843 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 4: Just just in halftime? You know? I it was it 844 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 4: was people that we talked about doing songs together, you know, 845 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 4: but you know we didn't. You look at it like 846 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 4: we're looking at it now, you know. 847 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 8: And you look at it. Lady said, I should have done. 848 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 4: You know. 849 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 9: I love talking to the elders like y'all because it 850 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 9: just makes me realize there's so much more life. 851 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 4: You're right, You're right so much. 852 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 9: But I wonder do you think more now about living 853 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 9: or do you think like you know, do you question mortality? 854 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 4: Do you know, man, I want to live forever. 855 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 5: I believe it. 856 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 6: I believe you will. 857 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 4: I was lying there. 858 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: Forever when you started making all that money, right, do 859 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: you remember your first time they put you on a 860 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: private jet and how it felt, or the first big 861 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: expensive thing that you bought and what was it? 862 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 4: Well? I remember my first first gig that we made, 863 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 4: like five hundred dollars between the brothers, just the three brothers, 864 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 4: and man I had that, you know, and we went 865 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 4: to one of those uh wonderful kind of stories that 866 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 4: when uh they sell clothes with somebody uh somebody else's 867 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 4: shot this shot man one and that bought me is 868 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 4: we all bought different suits and I think we thought 869 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 4: that would dollars. 870 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look at that. 871 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 4: And I wanted to know when. 872 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: The versus thing happened? How did that come about? Who 873 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: called you and said this versus thing is going on? 874 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: And what made you say, you know what, this is 875 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a great idea. 876 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 4: Well, my friend, uh Greg Black he called me and 877 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 4: uh Greg gred Walker, Uh he called me in He 878 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 4: talked on the phone for just hours and hours saying yeah, 879 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 4: I should do this and he called switch and I 880 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 4: talked to Swiss, you know, and we talked over and 881 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 4: over and over. I don't know if we want to 882 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 4: do this, you know. And then uh we had this 883 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 4: record and that you know, friends and family, and so 884 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 4: I said, well maybe we should do this, you know, 885 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 4: and uh we said with earth and earth went and 886 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 4: fire you know, you know they call them. And then 887 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 4: they said yes, and we say yes, and and well 888 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 4: it's gonna be. And then Steve Harvey called, I gotta 889 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 4: I gotta. 890 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 1: Be the Then. 891 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean we just and. 892 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: It was good because family got to watch it, my 893 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: young kids, my parents. 894 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 4: It was good. 895 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: Now is it true y'all got your own liquor coming out? 896 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know it's. 897 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got Uh, it's gonna be. It's gonna be. 898 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 4: Actually right there, right. 899 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 5: There, your person, right right. We got brand Brandy and 900 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 5: we'll be uh Brandy Contagious is the name of the 901 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 5: brand Brown Brandy. 902 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 6: I'm this boxa right here, look at that right we 903 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 6: live with. 904 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: Brandy alcohol seven hundred and fifty miles. Yeah, okay, I think. 905 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 4: I suppose eighty percent. 906 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: Anyway, they can't he can't ready, it's always done. 907 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 6: But the name of it is contagious. 908 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 2: That's just oh yeah on this, Brandy, How men babies 909 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 2: you can make with this? 910 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 6: I don't know. 911 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 912 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: Now we got to ask. 913 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 3: You know. 914 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the corner over there, and I see 915 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: a guitar just sitting there. And people don't bring guitars 916 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: unless they want. 917 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 6: To use guitars or two guitars. 918 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: People don't bring two guitars unless they want to use 919 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: the met the people brother we on b T right, 920 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: m hm, No. 921 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 4: Play a song. 922 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 6: We got a new song coming out. 923 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 3: No, you know, I carry my guitars with me, you know, 924 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 3: like the character in Peanuts always has. I mean, it's 925 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 3: it's it's you know, it's a very secure thing that 926 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: for me really emotionally to have. So you know, I 927 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 3: knew we were coming here, so it's like, yes, I'll 928 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: bring my guitarist. I don't know whether or not I'm playing, 929 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 3: but you know, just have them have them with me. 930 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: Just in case. 931 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, call a guitar to have y'all sign it. 932 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: Well, if if if you got one somewhere. 933 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: You should have put a guitar. I had to put 934 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: the guitar there. 935 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, next time, that's like. 936 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 2: Nowhere. 937 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 6: I mean, you got new music coming out, you know 938 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 6: as usual. 939 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 4: This liquor is like like like the record business. 940 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 5: You know. 941 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 4: I have a lot ices for to sell this all 942 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 4: over the world. And uh we got this license here 943 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 4: in uh Saint Louis, Missouri, and uh, I think it's 944 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 4: about two black people that have this, you know. So man, 945 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to make sure this liquid gold. 946 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 8: It's should be like Jack Jack Jack Daniel's Force over with, 947 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 8: you know, and uh. 948 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 6: You get it everywhere where where can we get? Ronald 949 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 6: Vaka and Brandy. 950 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 9: Ronaldsley liquid gold dot com, ronaldy liquid goold dot com. 951 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 6: Give me a couple of bottles? 952 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 4: All right? 953 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate your brothers for joining us. Yeah, thinking so 954 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: much and thinking all you guys are contributed to this, 955 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: this industry, into. 956 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 2: Them man to this world. 957 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 4: Man. 958 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'd like to be in your next music 959 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 6: video again. 960 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 7: The last one, friends and family are heard close up 961 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 7: because I shot it myself. 962 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 5: So the next song. 963 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 6: This has been a math. 964 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 5: Sorry for me, guys. 965 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 6: You all get the kind of people. I'm not a 966 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 6: fan of a lot of people. 967 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 4: I'm really not. 968 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 6: And I've been sitting here trembling. I am such a 969 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 6: fan that. 970 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 5: But you know them, you know, I know, yeah, I've 971 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 5: been to this. 972 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: Wife came in the door and he said, why are 973 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: you changing? 974 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 2: No morning? 975 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 5: You know? 976 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 6: Okay, I do know them, but let's tell the truth. 977 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 7: I see them performing and when we were even at 978 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 7: the party of around so many people that when they 979 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 7: they're around them, it's hard to sit and have a 980 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 7: one on one and learn stuff. 981 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 6: Now I am coming to the house. 982 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 7: You're right, I do know them, but I have never 983 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 7: had an experience like this, Like you said, to break 984 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 7: you know, I say break bread or break liquor? Uh 985 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 7: and and really get to you all are always singing. 986 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 7: People don't get to know you. So I thank the 987 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 7: Breakfast Club. 988 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 3: For this, absolutely, thank you. 989 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all so much. 990 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 2: It's the Brothers. 991 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning all right now, thank you? 992 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 1: Oh we we just gotta do one thing for BT, y'all. 993 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 5: I will be back with more of the Isley Brothers. 994 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club on B E T. 995 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 5: Don't move more Isley Brothers. 996 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 4: On B E T. 997 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 1: Well, keep in lock. We got more with the Brothers 998 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 1: when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club on BT. 999 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: What up y'all List the DJ n V Charlamagne the 1000 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: God We Are the Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with 1001 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: the Isley Brothers on B E T Charlomagne Kim Cool. 1002 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much