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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys Worldwhars at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Elliot saw that's got kicks and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's you know, I think Finn Lizzie said it best

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Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy six, that the boys are back

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Speaker 1: in town. That would be us, that would be talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: that would be us live from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: as we are reunited, and it's also good boys family.

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Speaker 1: Did you still let a trope from Mickey? Did? I

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Speaker 1: got goes with the old school references, so no, thateen

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Maybe I had to google that as the

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Speaker 1: show intro was coming out because I thought, oh, the

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Speaker 1: boys are back in town. I don't know what year

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Speaker 1: I even didn't even know Finn Lizzie saying that I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie didn't either. I had no idea the

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Speaker 1: name of whatever the artist was that that put that

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Speaker 1: out there. But my Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's back here with talking cowboys and boys.

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Speaker 1: It is good to be back here. I missed you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I missed you guys. Y'all left, y'all, Yeah, y'all left me. Now,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, I was worried about you jumping ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you worried about me? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: You worried about me? You don't start that, I was,

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Speaker 1: don't you start the only a little bit too good?

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Speaker 1: A little bit too good? Wow? Yeah, so the brother too.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I say that is because on the

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Speaker 1: break yesterday they were having like show versus show talk

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Speaker 1: about which show is better. And you've spent some time

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Speaker 1: with hanging lady, and I thought I didn't know where

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Speaker 1: you're legions necessarily lie. Maybe they're threatening because he did

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Speaker 1: such an awesome job. Maybe they're threatened now that you

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Speaker 1: know he's coming back. And our team has been working

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Speaker 1: hard during his awesome We've been working really hard during

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Speaker 1: I would expect that from Kyle. But this is a

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Speaker 1: sneak blow. Are you hurt? Pa? Really? This is a

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Speaker 1: side is you're here though? Yeah? So we're good. Let's go,

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Speaker 1: So I miss you guys. All of us have really

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Speaker 1: kind of had new roles introduced to us over the

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Speaker 1: last three and a half four weeks now, I mean, heck,

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Speaker 1: my hats a host hanging with the boys, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, fantastic job. That's always great job. Isaiah over

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Speaker 1: here was the color commentator a three man booth for

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Speaker 1: the air Cardinals preseason. Ye, fantastic job. As always. Rob

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Speaker 1: as a new father, of course we knew that. And

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Speaker 1: he's having to go through anything else new for you.

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Speaker 1: That's about it. But yeah, that's time. There's that long

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Speaker 1: find something new for Rob? Oh, well you're you're putting

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Speaker 1: together a documentary, so that's a big time thing. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: airing Saturday. Oh yeah, Darren Woodson. Darren Woodson called a

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Speaker 1: Path to safety his life and career. So we're excited

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Speaker 1: about that. It be really where it'll be on all

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Speaker 1: of our social channels and airing locally, I guess on

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Speaker 1: on CBS before the preseason game. It leads into countdown

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Speaker 1: to kickoff for the preseason game against the Texans, and

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Speaker 1: we did it last week with the Drew Pearson documentary,

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Speaker 1: Drew Pearson's life documentary and kind of his story along

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Speaker 1: the way to his Hall of Fame career. Really really

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Speaker 1: good job from the Deep Blue staff all the way over.

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Speaker 1: And we're excited for Rob's as well. For fans that

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Speaker 1: are very passionate to think wood he should be in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, I think they'll enjoy this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it outlines why why he needs to be there for sure,

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Speaker 1: and certainly I think he should be in that conversation.

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Speaker 1: So once again, the Darren Woodson documentary, you said, A

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Speaker 1: That's coming up Saturday, so we should to look out

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Speaker 1: for that. I did some sideline reporting that was fun.

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Speaker 1: You've been all over the place. Though, you've been all

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Speaker 1: over the place. You've been the sideline reporter. You're doing

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Speaker 1: the camp preview, precamp, post camp. I mean, cool, man,

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Speaker 1: what can't you do? Battleground even tell us he's right

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Speaker 1: Battleground arts on Dallas Cowboys doctor. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: he's a busy man, I am, And it's been a

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Speaker 1: ton of fun. And I have I've missed you guys.

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Speaker 1: Now it's all about these last couple of preseason games,

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Speaker 1: But there there have been a lot of good things.

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Speaker 1: big time head. I didn't know this football. So Robert,

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Speaker 1: for some fans on the fis on the fifty. I

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Speaker 1: over at nine to fifty, so it was fans on

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Speaker 1: the fifty. Right now, we're at eleven and we will

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Speaker 1: we'll be fans on the twenty pretty much. So we're

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Speaker 1: getting closer closer to the red zone, I think with

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Speaker 1: the fans at the moment. So, but we can't call

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Speaker 1: start things off with our guy, Jake. He always asked

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Speaker 1: great questions. First off, he says he's excited the band

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Speaker 1: is back together. Do you think we're gonna keep all

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Speaker 1: eleven of the draft picks that the Cowboys made? Aside

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Speaker 1: from Josh Ball and Farniac, it seems like every drafted

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Speaker 1: rookie has been making plays. What do you guys think

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Speaker 1: we'll start. We'll start with you, Rob That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Farniac makes this team, but other

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Speaker 1: than that, I think just about every guy should be

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Speaker 1: on this roster. I mean, you go down the list

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Speaker 1: and Israel mcquama is a guy that I don't know

494
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Speaker 1: where he fits in as a rookie in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: but you watch him play in these games and you're like,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to work with here. He makes a

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Speaker 1: player too, and you're thinking that this is this is

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Speaker 1: why they drafted him. So I think there's a great

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Speaker 1: chance that ten out of eleven, you know, and Josh.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Josh Ball's not going to make this team.

501
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Speaker 1: He's just been hurt, just injured, and I think his

502
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Speaker 1: chances of winning the backup swing tackle job aren't there.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I'd say at least ten out of eleven.

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Speaker 1: And Farniak is interesting because of the necessity maybe at center,

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Speaker 1: if he's that other option outside of Connor Williams at

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Speaker 1: center other than Tyler Battish, maybe he makes it because

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Speaker 1: of that. Maybe that's the thing that that they throw

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Speaker 1: into the mix. I think mcquambo's an interesting conversation as

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Speaker 1: far as the top three four round guys. I think

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Speaker 1: you're pretty safe at saying those guys are going to

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Speaker 1: make the roster, and a lot of people in the

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Speaker 1: past would say and you guys can can agree or

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Speaker 1: disagree with this afterwards, but usually if you're a Day one,

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Speaker 1: Day two, and an early Day three pick, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the roster. But with eleven draft picks, it's busy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys late in that

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Speaker 1: draft class that probably aren't a high priority for roster

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Speaker 1: acquisition and things of the sword. Is there anybody that

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Speaker 1: sticks out to you in that regard? Heck, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to take send me Fihoko away from you. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I know that you're on, but I mean I was

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Speaker 1: staying with the old line trend. I think Farniaki is

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Speaker 1: another guy that's battling to get on this roster, but

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Speaker 1: the thing with the backup center may be his saving

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Speaker 1: grace to get on. I'm with you on easy mcquomo.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that I loved and know Tas loved

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Speaker 1: his footwork and everything that he's he's been doing. But

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Speaker 1: in some games, I've just seen a few things with

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Speaker 1: him catching and you pointed that out in your color

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Speaker 1: commentating and the in the game that he's catching tackles

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Speaker 1: and you can't do that from his from Dan dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn's defense, But I do believe that he is guy

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Speaker 1: that makes the team. But he may never suit out

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Speaker 1: during the year. Yeah, that may just be his his reality.

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Speaker 1: But you know, again for all the other guys, I

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Speaker 1: just feel like Ball is going to make this team.

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Speaker 1: Um and and like I'm with you, there's ten out

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Speaker 1: of eleven may make it. Well, I forgot about Simmy

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Speaker 1: that that's an interesting one. What do you think that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm leaving it for him on the show? Do

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Speaker 1: you think I'm allio that one? I know you guys

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Speaker 1: are going ten for eleven. I'm going eight for eleven. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just we have a lot of events tards team.

544
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Speaker 1: We have a lot of events on this team. And

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to make a run right now, which

546
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Speaker 1: is what mister Jones's focus is, he's not concerned about development.

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Speaker 1: It sounds bad, but you know, you you draft a lot,

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Speaker 1: and you see what you got, and you're doing to

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Speaker 1: let down to what you absolutely need that you don't

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Speaker 1: draft eleven just to say I'm keeping eleven. Now you

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Speaker 1: draft eleven to see, Okay, out of this eleven, who

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Speaker 1: are the best guys that deserve to be here? If

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Speaker 1: that requires me cutting a fifth round pick, that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. You know, typically the only time that you're

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Speaker 1: safe is one through four. So anybody below that is

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Speaker 1: really sonantically Ball, I think balls there. I think Ball's there.

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Speaker 1: You know, Farniat, I think he's probably gone. Um I love.

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Speaker 1: I mean Simmy, Simmy has a heck of opportunity right

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Speaker 1: now with Malik Turner out, depending on how how long

560
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Speaker 1: Malik turners. If Malik turners out the rest of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: that might that might be, you know, that might be

562
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Speaker 1: Simmy's opportunity to slide in. But if if Malik Turner

563
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Speaker 1: finds a way to get back in here within that

564
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Speaker 1: last preseason game, I think it's hard and he has

565
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Speaker 1: to slide in at the sixth receivers Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: one through five, there's no wiper five cut. No, you're

567
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Speaker 1: not cutting. No, Brown, you're not cutting. Said well, so

568
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Speaker 1: they tried, but no, those not those guys are as

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Speaker 1: consistent as they've ever been. So you so it's a

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Speaker 1: between Malik Turner and you know, who's a vet, who's

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Speaker 1: been around, who knows how to play. You know with

572
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Speaker 1: you what you're gonna get out of him on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Simmy doesn't bring anything in special teams number six receivers

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Speaker 1: not playing offense, So what do you need him on

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Speaker 1: the roster for to play special teams? So you're gonna

576
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Speaker 1: typically you go with the for sure thing in that regard,

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Speaker 1: which he would be a core special teamer. Malik Turner

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Speaker 1: would be one of the five core guys that that

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Speaker 1: that he talks about. That's right. I mean he was

580
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: on the team, not even kind of like CJ. Like

581
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: CJ doesn't count really as a corner. And I don't

582
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Speaker 1: know if they counted Malik as a wide receiver last year.

583
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: So that's a good point. Um, yeah, I forgot about Simmy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of hesitant. I might go nine

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Speaker 1: out of eleven there, but I do wonder if he's

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Speaker 1: cut at the end of camp, he may be getting

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Speaker 1: claimed by so he'll get absolutely. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: for what this team needs right now. I don't see

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Speaker 1: that he provides that value now. I think he'll be

590
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: okay down the road, but I don't get the sense

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Speaker 1: of urgency that he can contribute in the way which

592
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Speaker 1: you need him to right now, which is your four

593
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Speaker 1: or five and six receivers would be key contributors on

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Speaker 1: special teams, that's what they would be. It's you're right,

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Speaker 1: it would be a developmental guy, kind of like keeping mcuamo. Yeah,

596
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean Reggie Robinson was a developmental guide

597
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Speaker 1: and I don't see him sticking around past it, you know,

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Speaker 1: past this year. So so I mean, and then you

599
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Speaker 1: look at mcquamo. I love mcquamo, but he's not a

600
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Speaker 1: he's not hitting. So he has to show over the

601
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Speaker 1: next two weeks that he can hit. And that's really

602
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Speaker 1: a decision for him. If he shows that, the shows

603
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Speaker 1: the staff that he's willing willing to hit, he doesn't

604
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Speaker 1: have to be awesome at it. Are you willing to

605
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Speaker 1: throw your head in there and hit somebody, then he

606
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: makes this roster. If he doesn't, then guess what you're into.

607
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Speaker 1: You're an additional corner, just like he played at the

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Speaker 1: end of the last game. But they show you how

609
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Speaker 1: much they value of Mukuomo on some of their stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love, I love. You know he's not He's not

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Speaker 1: only in it free. They'll bring him up in the

612
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Speaker 1: nickel corner situation yesterday, you know him come up in

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Speaker 1: the nickel corner set and do really well. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think he's a guy that may

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Speaker 1: make the team. But I but then again, the same

616
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Speaker 1: thing with him, right, if he's going to be on

617
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Speaker 1: the roster and you're not going to be like one

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Speaker 1: of our primary safeties or primary corners, what do you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to do to contribute special teams?

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Speaker 1: Special teams? And if you're not running and hitting anybody,

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Speaker 1: you're not playing special teams. Point taking. So if he

622
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: makes that decision, he secures his spot. That's all they

623
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Speaker 1: are waiting for. Are you going to decide to throw

624
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Speaker 1: your head in there and hit somebody? If you're unwilling

625
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: to do that, I can't help you. And we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about the cuts, by the way, for those listing

627
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: from ninety to eighty five, this is not our conversation.

628
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Speaker 1: We're mostly talking about the fifty three man roster. In

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. Whenever that comes up, there's a good

630
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Speaker 1: chance that those guys don't go don't go claimed and

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Speaker 1: go unclaimed and make their way through waivers. I think

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Speaker 1: Mquamma would probably have a better shot of it than

633
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Speaker 1: Semi Phohoko, But we see it every year where a

634
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Speaker 1: guy we think is going to get claimed ends up

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Speaker 1: going unclaimed because every every team has their dudes that

636
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Speaker 1: they want to hold onto, and maybe Phohoko, if he

637
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: is one of the cutdowns, is one of those guys.

638
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: We're not going to talk a whole lot about the

639
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Speaker 1: five cuts because those could come out any minute and

640
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Speaker 1: we don't want to kind of like make our predictions

641
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: on it too early. How about this, This is from Ernie.

642
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: He says, does Da going into a sixth year absolutely

643
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: need those preseason reps? What value comes from playing him

644
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: at a series against the Houston sections that he can't

645
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: get in practice. I'll leave that to Isaiah. No, he

646
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily need them, not physically, he doesn't need them. Mentally,

647
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: he may, but none of us are in that room,

648
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: none of us are sitting next to him to understand

649
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: his confidence level right now in his ankle, in his

650
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: shoulder now, and that throws a whole other thing into

651
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: into it. So I don't believe that he need necessarily

652
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: needs those reps. I think the guys around him need

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: those reps. Dak doesn't need those reps. His receivers need

654
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: those reps. His office alignment need those reps. His tight

655
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: ends need those reps. Those are the guys that need

656
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: him because they their success is dependent on him. Yeah,

657
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, I Lewis Riddick on

658
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: ESPN had a great point. I love his analysis, and

659
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: he was saying, you know, every year in the NFL

660
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: is new. You know you have a rapport with wide

661
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: receivers on your team, but you have to re establish

662
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: that every year. And I do think there's been something

663
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: lost by him not being able to throw in these practices.

664
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Speaker 1: And I do think you're you're the expert on this situation.

665
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I think it would be good for him maybe to

666
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: get a series or two just to kind of see

667
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: the field in live action and get out there with

668
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: his guys. But clearly they're not worried about that much

669
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Speaker 1: because based on what Mike McCarthy said yesterday, heck like

670
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Speaker 1: they're not going to rush him in any way and

671
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: to this point where now I'd be surprised if he

672
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: plays in preseason because if they're keeping him out of

673
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: competitive drills right now in practice, they've only really got

674
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: two practices left this week, and then they play the game,

675
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: and he said, we're not going to play him in

676
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game. So now it looks like it's pointing

677
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: toward Tampa Bay and they're they're fine with that as

678
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: long as the biggest thing is keeping him healthy. You guys,

679
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: you kill me when y'all come off, so cool, call

680
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: him and collective about things, right, because nobody said this

681
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: guy's he's eleven months removed from football, eleven months. Not

682
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: only that, he's had to have a reconstruction surgery of

683
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: the ankle, basically putting things back. Two surgeries. All right,

684
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: now we're going to the shoulder. And by the way, guys,

685
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: we opened up and Tampa obey and if he's not

686
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna take any pre season snaps at all, your live

687
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: action is live action with the World champs on Thursday night.

688
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: Eyeballs all over this thing. And the defense, by the way, man,

689
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: they are salivating to get ahold of Dak. There's gonna

690
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: be a bunch of seven and eight man fronts to

691
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: come after him and pressure him. He's seeing that pretty

692
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: much his whole career. If he doesn't have the rhythm

693
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: with his wide receivers, then when do you establish that?

694
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Do you establish that in real time? No friendly fire,

695
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: wartime kind of situation, because most of the time in

696
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: the Army, they at least play war games before they've

697
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: seen you out there. And I understand he's a veteran

698
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: six years. These things come natural. It's in nate for

699
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: him to play the quarterback position. But still there has

700
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: to be a rhythm component to this that this offense

701
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have. I agree with you. I'm not like to

702
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: panic mode about it, but I do think what sucks

703
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: is that he pulled himself out and we saw everything

704
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: that happened on hard knocks that folded. Why they you know,

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: they kept him out of those drills. It was the

706
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: first padded practice, first padded practice. He hasn't really had

707
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: any team drills since he's come back off the ankle

708
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: and if and you know, we'll see when he gets

709
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: back into that, and he probably will before the end

710
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: of preseason, but it's not as much as you would

711
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: like to just get a rhythm and and seeing the field,

712
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: seeing things, processing things at the quarterback position. It's not

713
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: it's not ideal. You know when you guys saw on

714
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Speaker 1: Heart Knocks that Mike McCarthy asked about some number for

715
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Speaker 1: DAK What what is that? Like this the GPS? Yes, yeah,

716
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: it's mostly like a it's the tracking system. Yeah, tracking

717
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: system to see how far, how long they were going

718
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: under Oh kind of is what it is. I just

719
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it's. It's a numeric value to

720
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: the physical strength or a strain that that the players

721
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: are going in what you do in your gym with

722
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: no so we have so you guys have that last

723
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: year in the league. That technology has been money. That

724
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: technology has been around soccer for a very long time. Yeah,

725
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: they used it all they're using a soccer a ton.

726
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: It's just essentially it's a track advice. It literally measures

727
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: how far you ran that day, how fast you were going, um,

728
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: exactly your acceleration, and it just puts analytics to your

729
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: actual work. So instead of just saying, hey, heck was

730
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: you've been out there running? It seemed like you had

731
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: a you know, you had sixty plays a day. Okay, cool,

732
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a good amount. All right, Well how hard

733
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: were you going? What was your heart rate? All those

734
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: kind of things, right, so there, but to track all

735
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: that information, and essentially what you saw our hard knocks

736
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: was them saying as too many reps on his leg.

737
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't a shoulder. There's too many reps on his ankle. Right,

738
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't. We don't need that on him

739
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: right now, so let's pull him back. I did not

740
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: like that. Either did not like that. No, we did not.

741
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: I like the competitive side of that. A lot of

742
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: people were like, oh my gosh, whatever, and like, no,

743
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I like that. Um, I want to go back to

744
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: what Heckman was saying. No, and a very good point,

745
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: by the way, the first time he's going to test

746
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: a hundred percent, because no matter what you do to

747
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: try and replicate it in practice, you have a red

748
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: jersey on, you're not running away from people trying not

749
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: to get tackled in practice. The first time if he

750
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: doesn't see a preseason snap, the first time he's gonna

751
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: do that is with that front seven from the reigning

752
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: world champions barreling down upon you. Yeah, that's not it's

753
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: not what you want, But I mean, let's look at

754
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: the reality. Had it not been for his shoulder, he

755
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: would been playing in preseason. Yes, had not been for

756
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: his shoulder, he would have been playing in preseason. But

757
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: since his shoulder, your game plan has changed. So now,

758
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: obviously he's just now starting to throw again, So you

759
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: don't play him in this game obviously, And then you're

760
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: not going to play him in the last preseason game

761
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: that you have because that team's gonna be playing their

762
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: two's at best yep, So you don't put him at

763
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: risk for that because those guys are gonna be playing

764
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: balls to the walls and they don't they's gonna be

765
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: reckless abandonment, they don't, they don't care. They're gonna be

766
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: throwing their bodies around. It's not a safe environment. And

767
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be the quality of guys that

768
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing against the following a week anyway.

769
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: So how much would he really get or gain out

770
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: of playing a series or two against guys that are

771
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: not at the quality or caliber of guys that he's

772
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna be facing on week one. It's not worth the risk,

773
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all we're saying. It's it's not that

774
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't need the reps, it's just that those aren't

775
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: quality reps. So you're you're, you're, you're putting him at

776
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: risk for something he's not going to get a lot

777
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: of value out of his risk rest reward that we've

778
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: we've had hints of this the last week or so.

779
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: A few of us chatted with Stephen Jones and Ox

780
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Hard and he said that it's overrated to worry about

781
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback not getting preseason reps. I So they

782
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: don't seem to be concerned. And the biggest thing is,

783
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: let's not have a setback with that shoulder. Yeah, let's

784
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, let's not do anything. And Mike reference like

785
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: his volume throwing, he's just not to that point where

786
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: he's throwing the amount of balls that he normally does.

787
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: And until they get to that point, they're not gonna

788
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: put him out there. People need people need to be

789
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: more concerned about his shoulder than his ankle. Go, wow,

790
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: why that's that's facts. His ankle is fine. Okay, his

791
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: ankle's fine. I mean, mckillan was perfectly fine. It's he

792
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: got rolled up on. So that could happen to anybody. Yeah, right,

793
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: So your ankle is good until somebody rolls the ball

794
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: you whether you had previous injury or not. His shoulder,

795
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: he uses that thing. It's based off of last year

796
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: fifty something times a game. Okay, So the wear and

797
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: tear of that game, along with the amount of reps

798
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: that you have in practice if you pull. I reference

799
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: this to to heck man, if you pull. For those

800
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: in the world have pulled a hamstring. You pull a hamstring,

801
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: you nurse it up, you heal it up. If you

802
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: don't heal it all the way, if there's even a

803
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: slight tear stealing that hamstring, at some point in time,

804
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: when you put that under duress and under stress, it's

805
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: going to retear. So, being that this is a muscular

806
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: issue seemingly for him and his shoulder, there's a risk,

807
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: not necessarily not right now right but down the road

808
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: when there's some more wear and tear on him that

809
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: this presents itself again. Which is why the conversation we're

810
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: having previously is so important for them to prepare for

811
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario in terms of making sure that

812
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: their number two guy can carry the load for a

813
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: week or two, just in case, Just in case. Now

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00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: you praying you hope that it never presents itself. You

815
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816
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: but you prepare as if it's going to present itself. Hmm.

817
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Speaker 1: That was a good question, by the way, that was

818
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: a fantastic question. Great job, Ernie. Um. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Talking Cowboys final segment here on

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Speaker 1: time to break you down, and then it will be Monday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Friday next week, so you get us on a trio

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Speaker 1: of occasions. I like it. I like it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Heck Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeoman's the

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Speaker 1: band is back together here in Frisco. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: It was a good open. It was a good reference

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00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: at the was it was? Um? I was asked on

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: the sideline. I was. I was walking around and by

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00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: the way, Cowboys Nation showed out at that Arizona game.

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00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: By the way, they were a lot of Cowboys fans everywhere.

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00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: They were loud. I know that's usually the case, but

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00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean that being my first time on the sideline

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00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: for a Cowboys game and I guess four years Yeah,

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00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: it was. Did you feel like a small human? Yeah? Yeah,

885
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: yeah I did. I'm and I'm six three, Like I'm

886
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: not a little guy. Heckma makes me look little. You

887
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: make me look little. Rob sometimes does too. He's he's

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Speaker 1: a big guy. We're all kind of large human beings

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00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: in here. But man, I felt, Oh that's a word

890
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I never thought I would hear on this show. Um, Chris,

891
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Speaker 1: can you get a dump? But what he's talking about

892
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: just folded? Um? Yeah that. Um. I was asked while

893
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: while walking around by somebody up in the sands, said,

894
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: what what what time are we going to talk about

895
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Well, when are we talking about Kellen Moore?

896
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: And my initial answer was the regular season in my

897
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: head anyways, And my thought process as the day went

898
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: along was, this was such an issue in the red

899
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: zone last year getting off to a hot start offensively,

900
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: with the exception of the first I guess three games,

901
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: even then we got off to slow starts, So I

902
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: guess all of last year's slow starts offensively. Is this

903
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: a problem? Heck, Ma Harrison, is Kellen Moore? What's going

904
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: on with him and his play calling early in games

905
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: and then whenever they get into the red zone. This

906
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: preseason has really in just training camp and being able

907
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: to be in the building has given me an up

908
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: close and personal look at Kellen Moore's offense. And my

909
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: honest opinion is is if this thing ever catches, it

910
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: is going to be on fire. Sure it is going

911
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to I mean because he's using multiple sets. I mean

912
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: he ran out of I had someone point is that

913
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: he ran he actually passed out of an eye formation

914
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: that is so nineteen eighty eight, Like if Emma Smith,

915
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: Moose and Mike in Harper out there. Because this is

916
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: just certain things you hadn't seen in an offense in

917
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: a very long time. I like it. The thing is

918
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: I think sometimes is that he gets to the red

919
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: zone and he's got a list so big, and he's

920
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to get the play calling together,

921
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: and he's had some misses, right, And I'm not making

922
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: up a whole bunch of excuse. I just like the

923
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: scheme that he has and I think that it's absolutely

924
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: going to work once he gets Dak and gets gets

925
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: his all of his guys back together. But those are

926
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: the questions that are looming with Kelly Moore, and I

927
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, look, you guys, we're married, man

928
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: in and so you know that the best apology is

929
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: change behavior. I can tell you I'm sorry all day,

930
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: but if I don't change my behavior, then I'm just

931
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna doom to repeat it over and over again. Change

932
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: your behavior in the red zone, Kelly, change your behavior

933
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Run the ball. And I know

934
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people do not like going with those

935
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, twelve twenty, get crowded all up together and

936
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: run the ball. But sometimes you gotta go back to

937
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: basics on this thing. And that's where I feel like

938
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Kelly needs to be I well, I would like to

939
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: think that Kelly Moore has been in his waterboy green

940
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: bugger and that he's been drawing up before it got

941
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: stolen from him. Come up with this. I would like

942
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: he has been drawing up just the most ridiculous plays

943
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: you've ever seen, because he has every weapon that every

944
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: team in this league wishes they had. Aside from Tampa,

945
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: we have the most weapons in this league on offense

946
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and with the new arrival of

947
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: a Dalton Schultz and what he now allows for you

948
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: to do from on that side of the ball, we

949
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: are possibility should be endless. So I would like to

950
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: think that his behavioral change is coming this year, and

951
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: preseason should be no indication in terms of what his

952
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: work has been on the back end, because he's not

953
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: supposed to show what he's going to do when his

954
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: opening season comes. Now Week one, I want all the

955
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: tricks out because they need to get off to a

956
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: heck of a start against a heck of a team. Yeah,

957
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: for sure, I Kyle, your initial reaction, that's mine. I'm

958
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: reserving till the regular season. I think Kex said that too.

959
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Haven't seen Zeke have a carry in preseason, I think

960
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: I think running the ball with starting offensive line is

961
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: what they didn't have last year to be able to

962
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: create that that part of your offense with all the injuries,

963
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: that hurts you in the red zone when you can't

964
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: do that, and if you have to go back and

965
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: look at every situation and why it didn't happen. If

966
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: you look at the first drive that they had in

967
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: the red zone against the Steelers in Canton, it was

968
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: pass protection. You know, a couple plays broke down and

969
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: he had to toss the ball up and one of

970
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: them almost got intercepted. He should have thrown it. So

971
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: there are different reasons why. But I'm just gonna wait

972
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and see when it's got the full compliment in there.

973
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: And you hope that they are the full compliment in there.

974
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: I think we're all on the same page. Yes, wait

975
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: until the regular season. That's something that I think a

976
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: lot of people have a tough time doing, a lot

977
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: of fans out there because it was so frustrating in

978
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It happened all the time. It was slow

979
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: starts or offensive red zone struggles. I mean, those were

980
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: two things that were knocks against Calamore and then you

981
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: get out in the first two preseason games and it's

982
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: the same story. And so it is for us rating

983
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: and one percent get it. But you're right the offensive

984
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: line and we're gonna talk about them here coming up

985
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: here in a second. But having them back out there,

986
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: having Zeke as a part of that weaponry on the offense,

987
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: having all three wide receivers at the same time out

988
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: on the field, we haven't seen that in the preseason

989
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: game yet. I mean, having your quarterback. There's a lot

990
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: of things that you are going to have in the

991
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: regular season that you don't have in the preseason, including

992
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: a full playbook. So regardless of the talent that's out there,

993
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: your playbook goes from being this big to that big

994
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: once the preseason comes around because of what you want

995
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: to show to other teams and what you're gonna put

996
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: out on film. But I mentioned the offensive line and

997
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: hackm I'll start with you on this one. But it

998
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: looked really good. I mean as a starting five, the

999
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: guys that you are excited to have that return with man,

1000
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: they look the part throughout and I want to get

1001
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: your excitement level on having those guys back into the mix.

1002
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: Anytime you have number seventy seven on the field, you

1003
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: better be excited because he's the best in the business.

1004
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: So seeing him healthy, I mean and seeing him just

1005
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: completely eliminate people in practice is promising for me. Zack

1006
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: Martin is just a savage. I mean, he's Zack Martin.

1007
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: You know what he's gonna do. He's done at time

1008
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: and time again be Hodish. There's obviously some confidence in

1009
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Beyonnish if they're not getting him reps in the second

1010
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: preseason game and running Connor out there, So that to me,

1011
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: I just want to say, all right, obviously the coaching

1012
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: staff feels confident in him. Connor is making hey man,

1013
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: Connor's he's bringing it back. I mean he's you're seeing

1014
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: fighting with Aaron Donald things like. I like where Connor

1015
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: is going toughness, But I don't want to see him

1016
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: at at center at all ever, zest nightmare. I don't

1017
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: want to see that. So I'm liking. I'm liking what

1018
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing from an offensive line perspective, but not seeing

1019
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: Zeke run behind that offensive line yet is giving me

1020
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: the bigger questions. Like I said, with Lao Collins, I've

1021
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: been watching him a lot because he was the one

1022
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: guy that had the biggest question marks on and it

1023
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: was in the Arizona game I did he was trying

1024
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: to reach block xaving Collins. Zaving Collins by the way,

1025
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: and he got you was high up owner, He's the

1026
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: real deal. But he was trying to reach block Xavien.

1027
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: He couldn't get there. They're guys right in front of him.

1028
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Yesterday we were talking in the press box h and

1029
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: talking to Derek. There guys just right in front of

1030
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: ELC that are beating him. And these are just things

1031
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: that we are not used to seeing from him because

1032
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: he's such a dominant guy at the right tackle. So

1033
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: all in all, I'm really pleased with what I'm seeing.

1034
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: I just feel as though these next couple of preseason games,

1035
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: getting Layout Collins, just that confidence behind him, I think

1036
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the thing that's gonna be important for

1037
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah. I feel good about our starting line,

1038
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: our starting line, but the guys that had to step

1039
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: up last year in terms of Night, in terms of Steel,

1040
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: I feel like they've taken a massive step backwards. In

1041
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: terms of absolutely even Steel, because I like Steel is

1042
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: definitely taking a step forward. I would agree with you

1043
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: on night. I haven't from what necessarily been, You've seen

1044
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: more than I've seen practice wise, But for the practices

1045
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: that I've seen in some of the games, I feel

1046
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: like he's taking a step back. And it's almost as

1047
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: if they had the confidence last year because they had

1048
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: to be the necessity. As a necessity, so I have

1049
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: to step up and be the guy. So you start

1050
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: getting some of your old your old confidence back, right,

1051
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: like I'm that dude again. But then again, now that

1052
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: the the real guys are back, it's like, oh, let

1053
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: me fall back to who I was before and play

1054
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: my role because I'm seeing guys blow by both of

1055
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: these guys, and I'm like, where are the two guys

1056
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: from last year? You know, I'm not saying they were

1057
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: dominant last year, but they they came in and did

1058
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: a pretty dog on a good job last year. Like

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00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: where are those guys? Yeah, I think I'm with Isaiah,

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00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Like the starting offensive line when they're full strength, you

1061
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about it. You have to be honest,

1062
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: is the X factor? Can he be? You know that

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick guy where you know he's setting he's the

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00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: quarterback up there pre snap and you know it is

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00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: interesting the lack of reps that he's had in the

1066
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: preseason games. You know, I'm a little surprised at that,

1067
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: But Dak hasn't been in there either, so I don't know.

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00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Mike was asked that question yesterday and he said, well,

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00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: he's taken like ninety eight percent of the practice reps

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00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: with the one so you have to trust your practice

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00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: schedule and all that. So yeah, I mean, I think

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00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: from the starting line, there's some good things that you

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: feel good about. I'm not sure about the center backup position.

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00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Kyle. I think if you're looking

1075
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: at the swing tackle candidate, it's not counting Zack Martin,

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00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: who can slide over there. I think Terrence Steele might

1077
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: be the best one that we've seen since ox Nart started,

1078
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: But Tina Sek he's taken more of the snaps on

1079
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: the left side, so it kind of lends you to

1080
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: think he's still the leader in the clubhouse to win

1081
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: that job. Do you think a part of the step

1082
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: back that you're seeing Isaiah from Terrence Steele Because whenever,

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00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: like you said, when you're the last man standing, what

1084
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: is your mindset? It's like it's like just throwing everything

1085
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: at it. I mean, you're going balls to the wall,

1086
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: like you said, just kind of going full blown. What No, man,

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00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean you're you're you're fighting for your life,

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: especially as an undrafted free agent. Now you get to

1089
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: kind of learn a little bit, You get to test

1090
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: some things out, and you get to kind of listen

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00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: and learn and react and do different things along the way.

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00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that could maybe play into the factor

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00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had maybe some of the better practices.

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00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Because you're saying this, and Rob and I are looking

1095
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: at it saying, wow, tarn Steele actually looks better than

1096
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: guys like Ti and Zeki and Josh Ball went he was.

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00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: If you're comparing them to those guys, I'm not comparing

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00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: them to those I'm comparing them to what how their

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00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: performance last year in the actual regular season. And I

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00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: just feel as if some of the things that I'm seeing,

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00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: and even in just in practice alone, they're getting they're

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: getting blown by. Now. I don't know the reason for it.

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what their calls are. I don't know

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: if the guys next to him are missing there as signmas.

1105
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of things. They don't have a

1106
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: blueback hall. Yeah there's no blow by, right, but there's

1107
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: no But it seems right without on it with the

1108
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: information that I have in terms of they're they're uh,

1109
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: what their what their roles are in their assignments are.

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00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: They're not getting it done from what I've seen, and

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00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I would expect them to have. You expect anybody, all

1112
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: your roster to make us a leap in in a

1113
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: proper direction. And I just feel as if they just

1114
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: have pulled that lever back and I don't. I don't. Again,

1115
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of reasons why it might be.

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00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: It might be because they're intimidated. It might be because

1117
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: maybe their coaches are getting on a little bit more.

1118
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's to be the backup quarterback situation and what's

1119
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: going on there. I don't know. There's a whole lot

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: of what ifs. But I'm just not seeing I was

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00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: expecting them to come out and be kind of stowick

1122
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: up front, and I'm just they're seeing that. I'm seeing

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: their numbers turned sideways a lot. I'm still thinking about

1124
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: Harry Winkler, Kellen Moore. I will say yesterday's yesterday's practice

1125
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: was a win for the pass rush man. Yeah, they

1126
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: were all over. I mean even even Tyring Dorance Armstrong

1127
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: DA got around him more than one twice, definitely at

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00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: least two times. We can't we can't do this without

1129
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: giving your boy a shout out. Now, he made a

1130
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: bad he made a good bad play. But Bradley and

1131
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: I showed up last week. Yes, he showed up last

1132
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: week and I was disappointed. He got excited because he

1133
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: made a heck of a move, went up field, spent back,

1134
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: came up and he had but a dude, he can't

1135
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: do that. But he was excited. He was like, well

1136
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: I did free free and he made another good play

1137
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: later on to make up for it. But he showed

1138
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: up now, and we haven't heard much about them, Louie

1139
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: alligator arms. He's been he's been getting showed a quarterback.

1140
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about that last year. We did

1141
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: we did, but that was that was written in an article. Yeah,

1142
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: I was about to say, so you you're you're He

1143
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: heard you in the off season. I'm pretty sure he

1144
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: heard you. Well, he's heard me cheering for him all

1145
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: the way through the coaching staff, of me asking straight

1146
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: camera on camera, please get him. I was. I was

1147
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: excited for him. I was really excited. I've been excited too.

1148
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: I've kind of come to the terms that he may

1149
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: be the odd man out. Um, I think yesterday. This

1150
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: isn't my my sheet from yesterday, but I did a

1151
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: like what I would do or what excuse me, what

1152
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff would do, cut wise, and

1153
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: I think he was on that chopping block. So I

1154
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I liked what I saw from him. I

1155
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: still think he's got a little bit of a ways

1156
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: to go, and maybe he's a developmental guy to continue

1157
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: to be. And you talked about yesterday's yesterday's practice man

1158
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: the defense and defensive line, Dorance Armstrong. You tweeted about

1159
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: dorn So Armstrong, he putting together that solid preseason game

1160
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: and his practices. I know this may be a contract

1161
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: year for him. Yep. But man, Darran says, I mean

1162
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: he looks big, Yeah, he looks good, and special teams

1163
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: loves him, especial teams coach loves him. Yeah. So I'm

1164
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: just saying just from what I've seen from ninety two, man,

1165
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: he's looking good. There's a battlegrounds coming out, Oh, Dallas

1166
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys Dot com about Doran story. I'm strong how about that? Yeah,

1167
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: it's coming out. I think Nick said it will probably

1168
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: be up around lunchtime. So Malik Hooker showed up yesterday

1169
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: in practice. He did He's looking good. How outside of

1170
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: the pick? How did he look? Because everybody saw the pick.

1171
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: He was a pick six, he was on a tip ball,

1172
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: and he looks his footwork looks good. I know a

1173
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: lot of and a lot of people are looking at

1174
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: him in his previous injury. To me, he looks good.

1175
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: I was sitting up there with Barry Church yesterday and

1176
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: we both were seen the same thing. He looks fluent

1177
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: right now. And obviously the pick was a heck of

1178
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: a tip ball. He just had to catch it and

1179
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: go with it. But um, yeah, Nayan Nayan, if nay

1180
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: Shan just just put his hands on somebody just he

1181
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: did better last game. He did better last game. But

1182
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: e Honda, I need the e Honda to come out.

1183
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if should we give him like the

1184
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: Street Fighter game? We probably should. Can we go talk

1185
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody about that younger than I am,

1186
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: He probably doesn't know, but if he gets can we dawesome?

1187
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: All right? Can we at least dwesome just just throw

1188
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: it out there, hit him in the chest and forgot

1189
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: about him too. How do you do this? Like when

1190
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: do you walk? I'm excited about him. He has a

1191
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: lot of potential and I hate that word, but if

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00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: he just gets physical, he will be everything that dan

1193
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Quinn wants him to be. No, he's and and to

1194
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: going back to Malik Hooker, I even when you were

1195
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: talking about Kay's in the in the Arizona game, he

1196
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: came up and filled in a Harry and you saw

1197
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: that he met like it was like whoa we had

1198
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: seen that. Look at the safety. There was no thought process. No,

1199
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: he came up and he filled it, you know. And

1200
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: so if that's what we're looking for, especially in dan

1201
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: Quinn's defense, having safeties that you know, are aggressive and

1202
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: can read and react sideline the sideline. Malie Hooker, I

1203
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: think just from his man from his you know, his

1204
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: time in the league. You know that that's his staple,

1205
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: that's what he does. The dB room is an interesting

1206
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: conversation and we're gonna have that coming up on Thursday.

1207
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna start our show. We're gonna talk

1208
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: about some dbs barring any crazy news between now and Thursday,

1209
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a dB conversation. Look forward to it.

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: Probably ten guys gonna stick around, maybe eleven if you

1211
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: wanted to stretch it, but most likely it's probably gonna

1212
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: be ten. And oh, there's tough decisions on the line

1213
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: coming up and we're gonna talk about it on Talking Cowboys.

1214
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for this edition. Want to

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Speaker 1: think everybody, Yeah back, I say it with your chest

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Speaker 1: every single time for Chris Beams today, Heck Harrison, Isaiah Stanback,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you on Thursday

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Speaker 1: with Moore Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of

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