1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. Just a reminder you can catch me recording 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: this podcast live on amp amp is a new live 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: radio app. They'll let you call in and chat with 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: me in person while recording. Get the app on Apple's 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: App store and make sure you follow me at John 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Middlecough to get notified when I go live. What is 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: going on everybody? John Middlecough three and out podcast. Happy 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Monday to you all. Hopefully everyone is doing well, having 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: a great day. Hopefully guys had a good weekend. Enjoy 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: some sun wherever you may be. 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Right before I recorded this Sunday, almost 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Sunday night, I guess it's six forty five, I saw 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter released a statement from Saquon Barkley that said 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: this week is the mandatory mini camp for the New 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: York Giants, and like probably a lot of other teams 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: around the NFL, he said that he will not go. 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: And he's not quote unquote holding out because he thinks 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: he should be the highest paid player. He just wants 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: what's fair. And I had to scratch my head. I 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you because last year. Let's use 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: an example and listen, let me preface this all by saying, 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: these many mini camps OTAs for players like him, Like 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't actually think the stuff on the field matters 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: that much, Like he is not going to get even 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: one percent better potentially by praxicing or not praxing. But 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: I do think in contract negotiations by showing up, like 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: I understand or understood last year, Deebo Samuel, who literally 71 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: carried the forty nine ers two years ago to the playoffs, 72 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: was not a first round pick, second rounder, just like 73 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: AJ Brown or DK Metcalf, those guys had not made 74 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: much money for the level in which they were playing 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: every single year, helping their teams not only get to 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but Pro Bowl level performance week in week out, 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, guys, we gotta be paid. And 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, when during the mandatory offseason mini camp and 79 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: then early on in training camp before his contract was done, 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: showed up. And this was a guy who had not 81 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: made that much money off the forty nine ers. Well, 82 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: sa Kwan Barkley, I checked, and we'll get into Dalvin 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: Cook here in a second, let's face it, the entire 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: league beside like Kyle Shanahan and maybe Belichick views the 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: running back. Now, the difference is Belichick eate paying you, 86 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: views the running back as not only replaceable, but arguably 87 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: like not important at all and definitely not worthy of 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: paying unless you're Jerry Jones or some of these gms 89 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: who get fired. Right, So Saquon wants to get paid, 90 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily the highest paid running back of all time, 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: but just a contract extension. And I would understand if 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: Saquon had played like he did last year and it 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: was like a fourth round pick hadn't made that much money. 94 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: But when I went to the Google machine and went 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: to his contract, I figured out that he had made 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars through his five year NFL career. 97 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Right last year he got his fifth year option, which 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: was over seven million dollars. So you add up to 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: five years, he made thirty eight million dollars. Well, if 100 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: you add up how many games he's played, because over 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen twenty twenty, In twenty twenty one, my man's 102 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: missed twenty one games, so he's played sixty games and 103 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: made thirty eight million. You do the math. He's been 104 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: paid six hundred and thirty thousand dollars a game, and 105 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: then he's franchised tag this year and scheduled to make 106 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: over ten So if you just factored in this upcoming 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: season and his previous thirty eight million, he'll have made 108 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: forty eight million dollars, and assuming he plays all the 109 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: games this year, he will average, you know, over five 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a game. So you know, 111 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, and the reaction is 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna be when you turn on television and first take 113 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: or whatever and get the former players, They're all gonna 114 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: get the players back and listen. I'm not against Sakuon 115 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Barkley here, but let's not act. In a lot of situations. 116 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: When I get a late round pick, or even just 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: a non first round pick, you have not made very 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: much money. So I understand, unless you're a quarterback and 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: you can get some like ads on television, A lot 120 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: of these guys in the middle rounds, second, third round 121 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: even have made two million dollars max over a period 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: of time, and when they've played like all pros, when 123 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: they've played like pro Bowlers, they have a legit grite. 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: But Saquon Barkley has been paid a fucking premium by 125 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. When this contract is over at 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the end of the year, he'll have averaged eight million 127 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: dollars a year through a six year career. And this 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: is a position that we all lap at across the 129 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: league of like you cannot pay. I mean, they just 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: cut Dalvin Cook. It's like, we're not paying you fourteen 131 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: million dollars a year even if you are a productive player, 132 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: and he gave us ten touchdowns last year and ran 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: for over a thousand yards, get out of the building. 134 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: You are not worth that. If he played tight end 135 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: or he played wide receiver, he would still be on 136 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: the team. But because he plays running back see you later. 137 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Why look at Saquon Barkley, a guy who has major 138 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: injury concerns, who you know, has some flaws in his game, 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: not a great pass protector, and who has not been underpaid. 140 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: So I think the easiest thing to do in this situation, 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: and I would say the way the media typically leans 142 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and definitely the form of players, it's always the team's fault. 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: The team is always fucking the player. To me, it 144 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: seems like the New York Giants have been pretty good 145 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: business partners, and Saquan has been properly paid. Now, I 146 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: don't expect him to show up to mini camp and 147 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: hop in the huddle and take reps, but I do 148 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: think it'd be pretty easy just to show up, Like, 149 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be negotiating in good faith when they have 150 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: paid you a boatload of money when they have stood 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: by your side, right, you'd be like, well, I produce, Well, yeah, kinda. 152 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: You've been missing an action a lot too, So I 153 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: view of anything this one like, now, you know we've 154 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: seen time and time again. TJ. Watt hold in, Deebo 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Samuel hold in, Like, I think that's kind of the move, 156 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: especially in those guys. TJ. Watt was a late first 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: round pick. Deebo Samuel's like the thirty fifth, thirty sixth 158 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: overall drafting. This guy was the number two overall pick. 159 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: Think about that. Nick Bosa needs a new contract right now. 160 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: You know what he did. He was just a training 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: camp or mini camp last week. Nick Bosa, defensive player 162 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: of the fucking Year, was there high five and everyone 163 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: hanging out Like I I'm not saying Saquan's the bad guy, 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: but the Giants definitely are not in this situation. And 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: speaking of running backs, I completely understand why the Minnesota 166 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: Vikings from in a vacuum. From a business perspective, go, 167 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: we are not paying Dalvin Cook over fourteen million dollars 168 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: a year this season. We do not think he's worth it. 169 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Any Vikings fan that have read some of these, you know, 170 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: analytical articles, I read a stat today, I think, like 171 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: his runs over twelve yards he was near the lowest 172 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: in the league. He's not an explosive player anymore, and 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: he's a player that, like the trend line would say, 174 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: is pointing down, even though he's still pretty productive for 175 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the position, and from just a salary cap standpoint, like 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: he's not worthy of the number, even though you don't 177 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: necessarily have anyone else to play at that number. It's 178 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: not like there's another guy out there that you can, 179 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, put into that slot. And it's not just 180 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings that are telling you that he was 181 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: on the block from the moment the season ends. They 182 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: would have traded him to anyone starting in late February 183 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: early March, all the way through the day he was 184 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: cut nobody wanted him. The rest of the league for 185 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: that number said, under no circumstances are we paying you. 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: So from just a business standpoint, totally understandable. But from 187 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: a football standpoint, there's a reason a lot of people 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: are shorting the Minnesota Vikings. Last year or this year. Right, 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: they had a historic win loss percentage in the one 190 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: possession or one score games. Right, they basically won them all. 191 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: They had some of the craziest games you'll ever see 192 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts Buffalo Bills. I mean, honestly, they had two 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: games last year that are two of the craziest wins 194 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: of like the last decade. And listen that they had 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: a very very productive offense. Quarterback threw a lot of touchdowns, 196 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: arguably the best or second best wide receiver in the league. 197 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: But here's the thing they got rid of, not just 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, but Adam Thielen for financial reasons. Why just 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: googled their stat sheet last year, Dalvin ran for eight touchdowns, 200 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: he got two more, so that's ten touchdowns, and Adam 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Thielen caught six, so that is sixteen touchdowns. Now they 202 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: think that you know Madison the Boise State running back, 203 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: even though you know, he's been in the NFL for 204 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: a while, can take a lot more of those carries, 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: even though he's never been the true bell cow guy 206 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: start to finish, like Dalvin Cook and Jordan Addison at 207 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Pick whatever in the early twenties, can be what feeling 208 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: was for a lot cheaper price. Well, in theory, that 209 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: all makes sense, right, just like you, all of you 210 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: guys listening that are in college right now. A lot 211 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: of things make a lot of sense in theory. A 212 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: lot of supplied demand charts, A lot of this is 213 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: how you make a sales. When you fucking walk into 214 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: the business and you walk into the guy you're trying 215 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: to sell, all that shit goes out the window. Either 216 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: closed it or you don't. So. Jordan Addison liked the guy. 217 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: A lot of hype on this guy over the last 218 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: eighteen months, right all we've been here, Jordan Addison, Jordan Edison, 219 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Can you do what, Adam? Can you get the Minnesota 220 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: Viking six touchdowns? Jordan Madison and the other running backs, like, 221 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: can you contribute ten touchdowns? Because those scores, right, those 222 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: sixteen scores obviously were enormous reason that this team was, 223 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, Division champ that won all those one score games. 224 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: So from a business standpoint, big picture, totally get it. 225 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: But actually executing it on the field now and using 226 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: those people that take over for you know, quote unquote 227 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: stalwarts of your offense right right there with Justin Jefferson 228 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins over the last four or five years, 229 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating to see. And this is 230 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: the type stuff young gms try to put their stamp 231 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: on the team, as they should, right, but this is 232 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: what you get judged on. You don't get judged on 233 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the athletic writing articles about how smart you are, you know, 234 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal writing about how unique your background is. 235 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: You get judged on your transactions. Who you draft, who 236 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: you cut, who you trade for, who you add, who 237 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: you remove, and how everyone plays in that spectrum. So 238 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the media especially really like 239 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: this GM because of his background. It is pretty fascinating. 240 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: I've heard good things from the people that work with 241 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: him for the forty nine ers. You start making some 242 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: of these moves, We're gonna judge it because I know 243 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: those guys can play, and I know those guys whould 244 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: come through even if both their arrows are pointing down, 245 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they should have kept them. My 246 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: point is you get judged on their replacements, and you 247 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: get judged on how you play once they're gone, because 248 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: you think you can do better for cheaper money. We're 249 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: about to find out. And last, but not least, Hopkins 250 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: been making the rounds he went into the Tennessee Titans. 251 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: I think Dalvin Cook falls under this too, because I 252 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: saw Pelasarro, who's tight end with Minnesota, who would know, 253 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, his representation, Like Dalvin Cook doesn't plan on 254 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: playing for like four million dollars and Hopkins wants a 255 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: big money contract. You guys, no one would trade for 256 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: your previous contracts. Not a soul in the NFL. Every 257 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: general manager was called multiple times like you sure you're 258 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: not interested? Like are you sure you're sure? Like ladding 259 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: like a fourth round pick as well, well if you 260 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: take this guy off our hands, and every single one 261 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: hung up the phone, every single one. Now I understand 262 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, looking at themselves in the mirror, 263 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: like I'm still a big time player, I can still dominate. 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: Look at some of these other guys making money. These 265 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: gms do not care about that. You just saw well, 266 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson got tw hundred thirty million dollars and that 267 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: was with the quarterbacks, like no one else getting this. Lamar, 268 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: you won an MVP. Jalen, you just dominated in the 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Patrick Mahomes. You're not sniffing that much 270 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: guaranteed money and what happened that came to fruition. So 271 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be very fascinating. My recommendation, especially to Hopkins, 272 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: a little different for the running back. Now he's already 273 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: been paid a lot of money, so was Hopkins. But 274 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: to me, Hopkins has a better chance waiting it out 275 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: till camp and just hoping a really good team loses 276 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: a guy for injury and then you get some You know, 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I would say leverage to me, even if there's an 278 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: injury with Dalvin Cookley, I don't think, wow, now we'll 279 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: sign Dalvin cook for twelve million. That is not happening. 280 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: That does have potential to happen with Hopkins, just because 281 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, a team that feels there a player away 282 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: loses a wide receiver in training camp. I think both 283 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: these guys, but especially dal cook you know, to me, 284 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: he's got the Buffalo Bill's written all over him a 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: team that needs a physical running game. I know Eckler, 286 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: hell the Chargers. I mean, give me a team with 287 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: a star quarterback to have just a running back. Now, 288 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: I got to get him for the right price. But 289 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: he makes a sense a lot of different plays and 290 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: catch the ball pretty scheme. Specific to me is that 291 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: one cut kind of zone runner in my mind where Hopkins, 292 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's just he's kind of an outlier player 293 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: because he's never been able to run. He's open no 294 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: matter what, because his catching radius, his contested catches. Now 295 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: he's tweeting up a storm, like talking shit to all 296 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: the people who act like he can't play. I don't 297 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: think the NFL gms and personnel people and coaches think 298 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: he can't play, but they probably think there is like 299 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: an outsize view of himself for the way they view him, 300 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: like good player, you can play for our team, but 301 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you're not a fifteen million dollar player. And this is 302 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: where it gets in this weird spot right now, because 303 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: he goes, well, fucking Odell Beckham just got fifteen million 304 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: dollars in back. I know it's crazy. Ravens are morals, right, 305 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: but that's that's not my problem. And that's kind of 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: where both these guys in little different situations because the 307 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: running back position makes less than the wide receiver position 308 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of find themselves in. So it's going to be fascinating. 309 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: I would expect both these guys kind of let it 310 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: play out for a little bit. What's the what's the 311 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: rush and signing over the summer. Okay, and really quick 312 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: before we dive into the mail bag, I've been thinking 313 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot about the Live PGA. You know, people fight back, 314 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: it's a merger, whatever it ends up being. What I 315 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: really can't understand is why everyone that covers golf isn't 316 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: really excited. And what I mean by that is when 317 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: you cover a sport, when you're involved in the professional game. 318 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: I get it from the player standpoint, but anyone in 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: the media, in the podcast, whatever you do, you make 320 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: money off talking right, documenting the game of golf. This 321 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: makes it dramatically more interesting and to me, golf like listen, 322 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm a junkie, I'm an addict. I mean, 323 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: it's a huge part of my life. But I get 324 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: it's a very niche sport, and part of the reason 325 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: is kind of niche. A lot of people say it's 326 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: kind of boring. And this is easily the most important 327 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: story in the game of golf since anything Tiger Woods 328 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: has ever done. It's the easiest way to get a 329 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: casual person that just maybe as a big baseball fan 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: or basketball fan or a football fan, to go, God, 331 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: some of this live golf Mesadi's taken over? Are they 332 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: gonna run the sport like everyone casually even if you 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: don't play, even if you don't watch, if you like sports, 334 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent know about it. Honestly, you don't 335 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: even have to like sports. Turn on just news channels. 336 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Over the last week, it was everywhere on ABC, CBS, NBC, 337 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Fox News, CNN, you name it. I mean, the story 338 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: broke on CNBC. Like. Part of the reason football is 339 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: so big is there's so many variables to the sport, right, 340 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: The owners are such big, you know, you know, kind 341 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: of characters in the whole thing, the coaches, the players, 342 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: We've had teams move. Vegas now has a team people 343 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: always selling. It's like billionaires versus millionaires. And that's not 344 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: even talking about the game, which the overwhelming percentage of people, 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: probably including myself, don't totally understand. I do this stuff 346 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: for a living. I've worked in the NFL, I've worked 347 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: in college football. The schematic element of football is very, 348 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: very confusing. Help some coaches don't even know what they're doing. 349 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: We make fun of some coaches, like, yeah, he's not 350 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: really a scheme guy. It is every variable possible. Why 351 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: do you think baseball got so big forever? Right, George Steinbrenner. 352 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the Yankees versus the Red Sox, historic rivalry, 353 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: all these players, the A's moving, I mean, it's they're 354 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: just crazy shit going on. And for the most part, 355 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: crazy shit doesn't really happen in golf beside Tiger Woods. 356 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: So now the sadis like we all got a polarizing 357 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: opinion on that one. Most of us are gonna agree 358 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: where we stand, and they're, you know, Phil taking all 359 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: this money. Like, to me, it's just an incredible story. 360 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: And I'm in the story business. The bigger the stories are, 361 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: the more people care, the more people care, the more 362 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: people listen. I'm a businessman. I want this story to 363 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: keep growing. That's why I'm so excited for this week out. 364 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: This week's fucking nuts. Hope guys are talking shit to 365 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: each other. I out these press conferences are fire. It's 366 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: the best way for golf to be relevant, cause it's 367 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: it's been relevant in a weird way the last year, 368 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: even after the split. Now that they're all together and 369 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: they could potentially play, we got villains versus good guys. 370 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of what you want. There's 371 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: like a WWE element to it. I saw a clip 372 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: on my Instagram hul Kogan I think went on. I 373 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: don't think, I know because I saw the clip with 374 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: with the Nelk Boys, and like I grew up. I mean, 375 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: Hulk was at the end of his reign when I 376 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: was a little kid. But then like Steve, Steve, Austin 377 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: Stone Cold Goldberg, the rock one thing that wrestling always 378 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: had when I was a kid, we're just superstars. I 379 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: mean when I was a kid, Rick Flair, Hulk, all 380 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: those guys to the next transition of Triple H and 381 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: the one thing Hulk said, the difference in the business now, 382 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: it's not about the individual as much anymore. It's about 383 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: the ultimate you know, the production and you know, is 384 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: that the way to go? You know, he was just 385 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: saying it was a lot different in his heyday. I 386 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: think I'm sure they make more money now. But they 387 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: never ever would have gotten as big if it wasn't 388 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: for the stars, the splits, the rivalries. Now I understand 389 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: they were all made up, but it was compelling television 390 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and golf sometimes is just not compelling television, and fuck 391 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: I love it. So this intrigues me. Regardless where you stand. 392 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm just glad people are interested. Nothing worse in any 393 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: business you're in. When apathy sens in, when people do 394 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: not care, you want someone to either hate you or 395 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: love you, and golf has a little element of that 396 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: right now, and I hope it just draws more eyeballs. Okay, 397 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff, is the Instagram fire 398 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: in those dms and get your question answered on the show? 399 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: Love the Pod. You have an excellent approach to explaining 400 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: sports through business perspective? Can you explain the NBA Final schedule? 401 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Game three is on Thursday and then Game four is 402 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: on Monday. Everyone has to work the next day in 403 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: both instances? Why did the NBA let the weekend just 404 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: fly by without a game? They must map out these 405 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: dates at least a year in advance, So why was 406 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: this decided on? Here's what I know. If I was 407 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: the NBA, I would never skip a Sunday. To me, 408 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Thursday Friday. You probably honestly have more people at home 409 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: on Thursday. But Sunday. Let's just use the football for example, 410 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: the number one television show for the NFL, which is 411 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: the biggest television show in our country, is not Thursday night, 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: and it's not Monday night. It's Sunday Night football. Well, 413 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: why we're all home? So no one's ever confused Adam 414 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Silver of being some dynamic businessman. Now some stuff's out 415 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: of his control right with ABC and ESPN. But like, 416 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. I understand travel days, but 417 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you. If you play on Thursday, you easily 418 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: can play Sunday and then you could go like Tuesday, 419 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: Thursday Sunday again if you go to Game seven. To me, 420 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: I would have I would start the series on a 421 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: Sunday and I would end it on a Sunday. Awful 422 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: makes no sense with you, stupid, but it's Adam Silver 423 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: for you. Question for the pod. As a Cincinnati native 424 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: and a writer producer of films featuring Kevin Spacey and 425 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: Alan Rock, I must admit that my focn, my focus 426 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: is often on sports rather than film related news and gossip. 427 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: Your podcast has been a beacon of light for me 428 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: during these challenging times in recent years. I get it. 429 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know much about Alan Ruoff to 430 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: google that one, but Kevin Spacey, I got you. I've 431 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: noticed that many podcasts, including Collins, regard the Bengals coach 432 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: as an exceptional guy, strategist and intelligent. However, do people 433 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: tend to overlook the fact the Bengals secured Joe Burrow 434 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: because they finished last the previous season with Dalton. Furthermore, 435 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: when Burrow suffered an injury in his rookie year, the 436 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: team performed poorly, which led them to acquiring Jamar Chase. 437 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: In your opinion, do you believe that Burrow and that 438 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: Taylor will develop a dynamic similar to Brady and Belichick 439 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: when the coach's contribution is around thirty percent and Burrow's 440 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: is around seventy percent, or do you think it'll be 441 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: more of a collaboration, a kinda a fifty to fifty 442 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: relationship read mahomes Well, I think you're under selling Belichick 443 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. Even if we're giving to give Tom 444 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: the nod, it's probably fifty five to forty five. I mean, 445 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Belichick is pretty freaking good. I hear what you're saying. 446 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Here's what I will say about the Bengals head coach, 447 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: who I'm with you. For all the teams to consistently win, 448 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: he seems to get the least amount of credit, Like 449 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I like Sean McDermott. I'm rooting for him. But we 450 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: saw those two play in a playoff game and the 451 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Bengals beat the shit out of him. So if you 452 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: replace the Bengals with the Ravens or the Steelers, Harbarugh 453 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: or Tomlin would have got a lot of credit for 454 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: killing the Bills, but was like, oh yeah, no one cared. 455 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: And then honestly, he almost beat the Chiefs again. So 456 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I know some of the guys that dive deep into 457 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like the analytics of coaching, don't love Taylor, But I 458 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, he's winning a lot. Does he 459 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: benefit from having a really talented team? Do the Bengals 460 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: do a really good job? For sure? But we saw 461 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, who was a solid coach and you guys 462 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs a lot, never been able to 463 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: win playoff games. Now, clearly Burrows better than anything. Dalton 464 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: was in his prime. But I I think if you 465 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: guys just go to the FFC Championship began with this guy, Like, 466 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: what what are we supposed to say? The elephant in 467 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: the room here is too your owner is not gonna 468 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: pay like Sean Payton eighteen million dollars. He's just not. 469 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: So if you fire him, I just don't see you 470 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: guys getting like a twelve to fifteen million dollar coach. 471 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna hire an Andy Reid, You're not 472 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna hire a Sean Payton. There's Kyle Shanahan of Sean 473 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: McVay walking through the door. Even though in theory it 474 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: should be a very desire it would be a very 475 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: desirable job. If I don't know what he would do 476 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: to get fired. I mean, he was just in the 477 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in THEFC Championship game back to back years. 478 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. I do think in 479 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: your circles he is not viewed as mister asskicker as 480 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: a head coach, but I think he's pretty good. Mail 481 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: back question Joel Klatt's comments on the Giants well on 482 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Rich Eisen Show last month. Klatt, who was against the 483 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: Daniel jones selection in the draft was on the Rich 484 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Iirosen Show. He made the following comments. One, Saquan is 485 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: more important than Daniel Jones. There are a lot of 486 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in the NFL. There's not a lot of 487 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkleys. Three. He insinuated, Saquan is the alpha who 488 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: carried the team by not getting paid. There would be 489 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: a rift in the locker room because Jones was paid 490 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: and not Saquon. Anyone who watched the Giants last year 491 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: knows Jones was the reason the team went to the playoffs. 492 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: In half the Giants fan thinks Saquon is replaceable. My 493 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: question is when analytics speak, what percent of what they 494 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: say is complete? Oh when analysts speak, not analytics complete bullshit? 495 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: And how often do they speak have inside information in 496 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they get their shit off the internet 497 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: like everyone else. Well, let me say this first, Clatt 498 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: is really good. He's really good on TV. He's awesome 499 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: covering college football. When you cover college football, you're not 500 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: watching every NFL game. Here's another thing, and again, I'm 501 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: pro Joe Klatt. I am. So this might sound like 502 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: a shot. I'm not trying to take a shot, but 503 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: it's just a fact he's not big on the SEC. 504 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: Why he calls Big ten games and he looks down 505 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: upon the SEC and he loves the Big Ten. Well, 506 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: who's one of the premium programs in the Big ten 507 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: Penn State who I'm sure that he called several of 508 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: his games right when Saquon was there. Saquon and Joe 509 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: Clatton know each other. I'm not saying there BFFs or whatever, 510 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: but he's gonna lean through the player who's way more 511 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: famous from a conference. Though we watch played now, I'd 512 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: be lying if I said that I watched every snap 513 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: of your guys season. But I'm with you. Daniel Jones 514 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: was pretty solid for you guys. And Saquan has been paid, 515 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: like I just said, forty eight fucking million dollars at 516 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: the end of the season, eight million dollars a season 517 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: for six years. He plays running back, not left tackle 518 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: or defensive end or wide receiver. How many running backs 519 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: over the last six years has made forty eight million dollars, 520 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Probably two or three, Zeke Cook, McCaffrey, maybe, Alvin Kamara, 521 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: maybe probably not even so, Like Saquan's been paid, and 522 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: it gets hurt a lot, but a lot of college analysts. 523 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I am much more comfortable talking about the NFL than 524 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: breaking down the Big twelve. Right, Why I watch every or, 525 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: you know, the majority of NFL games throughout the weekend 526 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: college football wise, Like I watched the big games Alabama, LSU, 527 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: you know whatever that weekend. But I'm not watching all 528 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: the random teams in the conference. Well, when you call 529 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: a certain conference, you end up calling those games, but 530 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: to prepare for those games, you cross reference the other 531 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: the teams leading up when they're playing the other teams, 532 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: so you get a very very good feel for it. 533 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: Do you know who? You don't watch a bunch of 534 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: like like that the NFL. That's why I'm not that 535 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: big on Herbstreet calling my NFL games. Call college again, 536 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm pro clat but I hear you on that one. 537 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: This notion too, that Saquan's getting screwed to me, this 538 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: is bullshit. A question for the bag. Longtime listener, you're 539 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: by far the best podcast listen. I appreciate you. I'm 540 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: a huge Chefs fan, and I feel extremely lucky with 541 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: the last few years having Mahomes and co Treed. I 542 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: don't blame you. I would feel pretty good about it myself. 543 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Of you, I feel like I'm waiting for the wheels 544 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: to fall off health decide. Do you think we can 545 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: continue to perform at the level for years to come? Yeah? 546 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean I would view it like this. We're the 547 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: modern day Patriots. We got the best quarterback, we got 548 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: the best coach, and we got a stud general manager. 549 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: So we have an organization. To me, sometimes teams get 550 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: out of whack when they're very dependent on one player 551 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: or two players. To me, you guys got the coach, 552 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: got the quarterback, got the GM, and got the organizational philosophy. 553 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I think last year was your most impressive year of 554 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: the Mahomes era because think of the rookies you won with. 555 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: By the end of the season, you had seventh rounders 556 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield. You drafted what's his name is McDuffie, 557 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: the corner from Washington who came on. Karlovskis was coming 558 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: on at the end of the sea. Think how many 559 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: young players at Watson, the Washington State kid that was 560 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: a USC transfer who was a dB for you guys, 561 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: you had so many young players on defense coming through. 562 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm not counting Mahomes. Kelsey Pachaco seventh rounder. Think of 563 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: your core forever, right it was Tyreek Hill played a big, 564 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: huge part of it. He's a Hall of Famer. You 565 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: get rid of him. You didn't skip a beat. I 566 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: mean the road to the super Bowl went through you, 567 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: and it literally did because you won it. So I 568 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: would live in the moment. Man. You guys are in 569 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: the peak of your powers. A ton of young guys 570 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: who got experienced winning. To me, it doesn't get any 571 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: better than that. Was wondering if you also belt bet 572 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: on player props. If so, what sports do you enjoy 573 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: gambling on? I do not, but I have a lot 574 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: of people text me that gamble on, like on Star 575 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: NBA players like they're overs, like people hammer the Jokers 576 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: overs during the playoffs. If I did, I don't. I 577 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: just don't have the bandwidth. I just gamble on football 578 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: games and I gamble on golf. Now. I do take 579 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: player props in golf, like guys to top ten. I 580 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: don't know if that's player prop or guy to make 581 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: a cut or miss a cut. That's a little more proppy, probably, 582 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: But I don't do props in sports. But if I did, 583 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: it would probably basketball overs. As a Falcons fan, should 584 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I be excited about Beijon after seeing it prove in 585 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: time and time again the first round running backs last 586 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: until the second contract and disappear. I was literally distraught 587 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: when we didn't pick up pick up Jalen Carter. I 588 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: get it, it might have been a little too close 589 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: to Athens with the allegations, But man, do I think 590 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: that was a miss for the team taking for lacking 591 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: a nasty on our d line. I think you and 592 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: the Bears fall under the same category. I just don't 593 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: think you guys were in position to do it. I 594 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: really don't. Too young, too unproven from a player standpoint. Honestly, 595 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: he should have gone trying to think of the draft 596 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: forgetting now, I mean starting with Seattle. You know, he's 597 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: better than the guy Seattle took. But Seattle went with 598 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: a guy that they know, the plug and play stud player. 599 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: But could they have used Jalen Carter? Could you have 600 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: used Jalen Carter? Could the Bears have used Jalen Carter? 601 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of a no brainer for 602 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: all those teams from a player standpoint when you factor 603 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: in the X factor, which is the human the question 604 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: marks with the character. Seattle's done that been there, done that, 605 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: and they're like, fucking, we're not doing this again. And 606 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: I think it Land and Chicago went we're not equipped 607 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: to handle this risk. And the Eagles were so or 608 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean so well, We're gonna find out. I think 609 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: they are. But even with much content as you put out, 610 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm still looking for podcasts with more football content. What 611 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: are some podcasts you listen to recommend and no bail 612 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: out the hurd. I don't really listen to that many 613 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: football podcasts. I listened to Move the Sticks. If I 614 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: want some football, they get pretty nerdy on there with 615 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: DJ and Bucky Oh, Michael Lombardi. I listened to Michael 616 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Lombardi's podcast, He's Had, I think he had like the 617 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: guy that wrote for Bart Simpson, Like. I haven't been 618 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: listening as much but during the season for sure. In 619 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: the off season I'll listen to him. But that's probably yet. 620 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge football content consumer, just because I 621 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: don't want it to mess up any of my takes, 622 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: not that it really would, but I hope that's not 623 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: a cop out. But I really don't listen to that many. 624 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: You headed to LACC for the US Open. I'm not 625 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: I thought about going and you know, buying this house, 626 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I gotta do a pretty big remodel. And one of 627 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: the things we're about to start this week is attempting 628 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: to get that under control. And when I say big, 629 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean big for me. I don't even really know 630 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. A girlfriend's kind of running point on it, 631 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just, you know, along for the ride. Hey, John, 632 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: could grats on the recent house purchase. Not a sports 633 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: related question, but I see your girlfriend said she's proud 634 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: of the life changes you made to make it happen. 635 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: What was the most difficult part of saving for a 636 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: house and how did you gain plan for that? Also, 637 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: if you ever in Atlanta, let me know. I think 638 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: what she meant by her post was that I moved here. 639 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: You know. I think a lot of times when you're 640 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: in a long distance relationship, even though we weren't really 641 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: long distance for that much, you know, you never know, 642 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I was talking a big game, like I'm gonna come, 643 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come, and then I just packed up and came, 644 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: you know. And so it's just that's what she was 645 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: talking about. From a savings perspective, it all depends on 646 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: where you are and what you want. I think if 647 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, for me, I don't have a salary job, 648 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: so I make money based on my earning potential is 649 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: a little higher in the sense that I'm not capped, right, 650 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not just paid one hundred grand or two hundred grand. Right. 651 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm more like a sales guy in the sense of 652 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: more ads we sell, more people that listen, more money 653 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: we make. And for me, crossing an imaginary line from 654 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: California to Arizona made me a lot of money. It's 655 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: pretty crazy, Like it gets talked about a lot on 656 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: social media. It's like, oh yeah, tex Is, Like now, 657 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a fucking pretty big deal. I mean, it's a 658 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: gigantic deal. It was a gigantic deal. I would say this. 659 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: If you have just a salary job and you can 660 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: put away two grand, five grand, ten whatever you put 661 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: away per month, per biannually, however you do it, the 662 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: only way to grow that money is to invest it. 663 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: It really is. And when I mean in the stock market, 664 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: and that you know, I got lucky that I made 665 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot more money, you know, the last couple of years, 666 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: so I had more firepower, right because I have some 667 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: investments that if I would have needed I would have 668 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: been screwed. So but I had some that made a 669 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: lot of money, so I had some wiggle room there. 670 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have to sell my condo in 671 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: the Bay to buy this house, even though I am 672 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: selling it to use that cash toward the remodel. And 673 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: part of the reason is I had refinanced my condo 674 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and that that was you know, 675 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: all my money was in that thing, right. I bought 676 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: it when I was thirty years old, five hundred grand 677 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, which in the Bay it sounds like a 678 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of money, and it is. But at the time 679 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: in the Bay, like I couldn't afford a house. I 680 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: the only thing I could afford was a condo. And 681 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: like I said, like if I looking back, I would 682 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: have about the shittiest house on the block, and I 683 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: would have made dramatically more selling. You don't your condos 684 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: don't appreciate that much. But I had refinanced it, so 685 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: my mortgage on it was like two point seven percent. 686 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: My payment was nothing. It's like twelve hundred dollars a month, 687 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: but I got hoa fee. It's gone well over five 688 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. The tax I pay more on a tax 689 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: on the condo than I will on this new house, 690 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: which is double more than double what the condo is. 691 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: So like I had planned on just leaving it fully 692 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: furnished and air being being it. Well, here's the problem. 693 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: The Bay Area is the work from home capital of 694 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: the world, so people are not traveling there to work. 695 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: So I got people to come in there the first 696 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: couple of months, and I was charging well over four 697 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, Like, ah, this is a pretty good deal. 698 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: This this is gonna be a lucrative thing. And then 699 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: it was just gonna be hit or missed, and I'll 700 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: probably a lot more miss than hit. I was like, 701 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what, the only reason I'm holding onto this 702 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: is because of this interest rate. So back to what 703 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: I said about saving four you know, it's if you're 704 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna need fifty grand one hundred grand and you can 705 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: only save you know, a lot less than that every month, 706 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: you got to invest in the stock market, whether that's 707 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, Maybe reach out to a 708 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: financial advisor. This is not a financial podcast in terms 709 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: of giving you advice, because I've made some dumb moves. 710 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: I've been pretty open about some of the uh stocks 711 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: I've invested in, Like, I invested pretty heavily until Rey 712 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: the weed stock. I sold it a couple of weeks 713 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: ago cause I'm like, and I took a big hit, 714 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: but I immediately put it into sofa and I've made not 715 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: at all back, but I've made some money back immediately. 716 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: And part of my mindset was like, I'm just watching 717 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: this go down, and I believe weed and legalization eventually, 718 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: but right now this is not working out, and I'm 719 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: just seeing money evaporate. I would say five years ago, 720 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: three years ago, I would have rolled that out. I 721 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: would have kept investing in it, and I did it 722 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: for a long period of time and I just fucking 723 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: sold it. Now I do this all on my own, 724 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: like I'm not asking. I don't have a financial advisor, 725 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of like getting up early reading 726 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: about some shit and still, you know, some people, I 727 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: would say most people in the financial world would tell 728 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: me I'm not doing it right. But you know, it's 729 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: been pretty lucrative so far. But that's the only way 730 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: that you can gain to me in this modern day. 731 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: Depend on where you live and how much you need 732 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: it obviously changes person to person, but you got to 733 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: invest your money, and you got to invest in the 734 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: stock mark. Because even if you take ten thousand dollars, 735 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: can you turn that into sixteen? If you got twenty 736 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, can you turn that into thirty six? 737 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: If you got fifty thousand dollars, can you turn that 738 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: into I'm not even asking double it right, that's you 739 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: can if you get it right, you can more than 740 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: if you get on the right, you know, gravy train. 741 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: But hell, if you just get something that grows, if 742 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: you just invest in uber at, you know whatever, thirty 743 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: eight dollars and it goes to fifty and you turn 744 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: put your fifty thousand dollars, I wouldn't put it all 745 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: on one lump sum into one stock, but you know 746 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, Hell, you could just argue dal Jones, 747 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, just put it in to the market. In general, 748 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: I bet stocks, which people tell me historically it's the 749 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: way to go. I say, it's it's worked out pretty well, 750 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: and I don't plan on changing. I also like the juice. 751 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: I play the stocks the stock market, you know a 752 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: little bit like you know, I'm a gambler. I need 753 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: the juice. Right, Well, they say I watched Heat the 754 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: other day, de Niro and Pacino, and when the dude 755 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: who's asked like he's got a family, he doesn't need 756 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: to get in on the bank robbery, and he said, 757 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: the action is the juice. That's true for me, like 758 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: I need it. It gets my juices flown. It really 759 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: does you sell till Ray at a massive loss? You know, 760 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: your heart gets pumping. But I kind of like that 761 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: shit in a weird way. Yes, you know, they're also here. 762 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: They have a lot of programs for buying homes. When 763 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: I went to sign my documents last week, I started. 764 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: I just started bsing with the guy and one thing 765 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: he said is a lot of people there's these programs 766 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: like under four hundred thousand dollars, you can get no 767 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: down payment. Now your interest rate's really high. It was 768 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: like over eight percent, but you don't have to put 769 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: anything down, right, like I had to put ten percent down. 770 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: I also like this market depend on where you live. 771 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: It's not you know, the sellers ain't in full control anymore. 772 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: I got it well under what it was originally listened for, 773 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: and I got the guy to buy down my rate. 774 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: My rate is in the mid fives, so it's like 775 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: you do have it's a give and take when rates 776 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: are really low, and I've bought it when I bought 777 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: my condo. When rate are really low, it's a fucking warzone. 778 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: You get bent over right now, Like you know, you 779 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: can find some deals out there. It's not this isn't nine, 780 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: but there are deals to be had because people now 781 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: part of it is the rate and the payments. It 782 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: makes a little more complicated on r end for the buyer. 783 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: But there are definitely rates out there, or I mean 784 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: deals out there. If you can buy the rate, you 785 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: can you can get people to buy down your rate too. 786 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: That's a big part that people are doing, which I 787 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: literally just did so you know, I qualified for some loan. 788 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: It was like at first I only had to put 789 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: five percent down because my credit score was so high. 790 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: No big deal. I pay my bills and uh I 791 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: had a master's degree. I'm smart. You know you wouldn't 792 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: know by listening to this, but you educated guy here. 793 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: So I would just sniff around, talk to talk to um, 794 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: talk to the lenders, talk to these bankers because they 795 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: are you know, they're always looking to do deals. Win 796 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: on that. As a long winded way of say just 797 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: invest audios people, the volume