Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, Nandas. Please, Hey boo, it's me Roz and
Speaker 1: welcome to goos To by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where
Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the paranormal
Speaker 1: people that you like. Wait a minute, there's Satanist on
Speaker 1: the show today. That's true. My guests today are known
Speaker 1: as Twin Temple. Now here's the deal. I think this
Speaker 1: is the first time in the five years of the
Speaker 1: show that I have ever had oh open, out of
Speaker 1: the closet, good old fashioned Satanists on the show. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It makes me nervous sometimes to
Speaker 1: publicly align myself with Satanists. I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: experiences where, you know, these open Satanists want to work
Speaker 1: with me and do things, and I'm always like, I
Speaker 1: get nervous because I know how dumb people are. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, none of you listening to the show,
Speaker 1: But I just I don't I don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with the people calling me evil and picketing me, and
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. I personally, it's not for me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with people threatening me and
Speaker 1: stalking me and whatever because they think that I'm sacrificing
Speaker 1: children or whatever. I just don't want to deal with that.
Speaker 1: But these people on the show today are indeed Satanists,
Speaker 1: and we get into it, we talk about it, and
Speaker 1: I have met several Satanists and honestly cool people. I
Speaker 1: know all kinds of people, and I do really appreciate
Speaker 1: what these two are doing. They're a real life married couple.
Speaker 1: They also are musicians. They're a do wop group, and
Speaker 1: their music is so cool. When it comes to the
Speaker 1: creative side of it, they're doing something so different that
Speaker 1: you're not seeing in the current musical climate, and they're
Speaker 1: also bringing the theatrics to the music and bringing in
Speaker 1: this idea of this satanic married couple singing do wop music.
Speaker 1: And they do, indeed get a lot of pushback from
Speaker 1: people because they're Satanists. They're evil, But then you talk
Speaker 1: to him like, oh, these are just like cool people
Speaker 1: that are super open minded and not looking to like
Speaker 1: do anything too evil, and I like them. I think
Speaker 1: they're really cool. They also have ghost stories, which is
Speaker 1: super fun and oh my god, I almost forgot. It's October,
Speaker 1: my favorite month. That's also the month of my birthday.
Speaker 1: My birthday's on the twentieth. But to bring in the
Speaker 1: Halloween spirit, I think it's perfect that we have these
Speaker 1: guests today. And also another perfect thing happening this month.
Speaker 1: Why I do have my new videos that have been
Speaker 1: coming out on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, Louise.
Speaker 1: Me talking about him again. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: wanted you to watch if you want. You know, it's
Speaker 1: called Ross Hernandez the Haunted Doll on YouTube. And also
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say real quick that I'm doing
Speaker 1: some live dates. You can see me on the twenty
Speaker 1: seventh in San Francisco doing Ghosted Live, the thirtieth, in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles doing Ghosted Live. The seventh of November, I
Speaker 1: am doing stand up in Raleigh, and then I'm going
Speaker 1: to Portland in Seattle in December to do Ghosted Live.
Speaker 1: And in Seattle I'm doing stand up. So I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this conversation. I know I did. We had
Speaker 1: a really really good time, and I think I just
Speaker 1: made some new friends. They're friends with David Desmalchian, who
Speaker 1: was on the show recently and these are all some
Speaker 1: real cool people, so I hope you enjoy. Here's my
Speaker 1: conversation with Zachary and Alexandra from Twin Temple on with
Speaker 1: the show. Oh my god, oh learned. I'm joyed, just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm joined by Twin Temple.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: You guys are so cool. You're cool.
Speaker 2: We're really excited to be here.
Speaker 1: You're not like, you're not too scary. I mean like
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I feel like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys are Satanists.
Speaker 3: I mean we try, but it's working right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't find you guys scary. I think
Speaker 1: you guys are cool. Oh.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I mean I hate to say this, but at this
Speaker 1: point in time, I feel so much more comfortable around
Speaker 1: you guys than like evangelical questions. I feel more safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've never met you guys, but I will say one
Speaker 1: time I saw you at a fleet market, but I
Speaker 1: was too scared to say hi.
Speaker 3: Oh was it the blood like dripping off our faces?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird. You guys have blood dripping
Speaker 1: down your face at a flea market. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they must have eaten something in one of those people
Speaker 1: that sells the stuff.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't give us a deal.
Speaker 4: No Sunday ritual for sure.
Speaker 1: But so this is my first time I get to
Speaker 1: meet you. Nice to meet you you too. So I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot we could talk about, because
Speaker 1: from what I hear, you have a ton of ghost stories.
Speaker 2: So many we couldn't decide.
Speaker 1: Well, we have to hear those. I want to just
Speaker 1: hear a little bit about the Satanism though. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you guys are really Satanists. I mean yes, So how
Speaker 1: long have you guys been Satanists?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want to say the spiel.
Speaker 4: You've always been there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean to us, I don't think it's something that
Speaker 3: you've become so much as something that you're born, Like
Speaker 3: you're born a Satanists in our opinions, because I mean
Speaker 3: it's really to us, it's like like a set of.
Speaker 4: Values, you know, it's kind of just like a way
Speaker 4: of seeing the world, the way of seeing yourself in
Speaker 4: the world. Yeah, it's not really learned. I mean you
Speaker 4: could learn.
Speaker 3: It, I guess, but it's like in your core, Like
Speaker 3: it's like, do you believe that outdated norms should be
Speaker 3: kind of like destroyed? Do you believe in like individualism
Speaker 3: and like the pursuit of like intelligence and self actualization
Speaker 3: and knowledge. What are you drawn to like subversion and
Speaker 3: like shaking things up and rattling the cage. It's really
Speaker 3: hard to become that, right, right, right right, I think
Speaker 3: as far as means that can. Remember, we've always kind
Speaker 3: of felt like outsiders and not really felt like part
Speaker 3: of mainstream, at least the mainstream culture that they're feeding you,
Speaker 3: you know, in popular media, Like we've all been kind
Speaker 3: of freaks, and like we were born freaks and we
Speaker 3: were born outside of you know.
Speaker 1: So I get that. So it's like you at some
Speaker 1: point discovered Satanism and then you go, wait, this is
Speaker 1: describing me.
Speaker 3: We discovered the word for like what we are, but
Speaker 3: we'd always felt that we you know, that way. But
Speaker 3: then it was like we found other people who put
Speaker 3: a nice bow on it and.
Speaker 2: Called it what it was that we were feeling.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we fell in the vocabulary.
Speaker 1: Yes, were you both Satanists before you met each other?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Were you both practicing?
Speaker 4: And well, I guess in satanism and like our practice
Speaker 4: of witchcraft are two separate things, you know, So like
Speaker 4: like Satanism isn't inherently magical, you know. I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: everyone has their own interpretation, but our interpretation is not
Speaker 4: inherently magical, and our magical practice is separate from Satanism,
Speaker 4: Like we don't do magic to like we don't you know,
Speaker 4: perform ritual to devil or Satan as a being. You know,
Speaker 4: we don't believe in Satan as a you know, as
Speaker 4: someone or whatever you want to call it. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, like practicing Satanism is more of just a
Speaker 4: way of living and viewing the world and viewing yourself
Speaker 4: and seeing yourself as a creator you know, and a
Speaker 4: god if you will, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so as like the architect of yourself.
Speaker 1: So are you guys more like Satanic Temple or Church
Speaker 1: of Satan?
Speaker 4: I mean we're kind of all, but none as well.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like we're our own Satanism. You know. It's like
Speaker 4: Satanic Temple is primarily a political organization, right, Church of
Speaker 4: Satan was, you know basically like at this point, it's
Speaker 4: like leavey worship. You know, it's like you have to
Speaker 4: acknowledge what he did culturally to like bring that idea,
Speaker 4: you know, into like the public space. But again he
Speaker 4: practiced magic. TSD doesn't believe in magic, you know, I
Speaker 4: think the majority of them that's kind of their gen sentiment.
Speaker 2: Well, but they do because then they talk about psychodrama,
Speaker 2: so I'm a little unclear what their whole stances, but
Speaker 2: they don't practice any kind of practical magic.
Speaker 1: Well, I think like with them, you and if anyone
Speaker 1: listening does not know about the Satanic Temple, Like, there's
Speaker 1: a great documentary called Hail Satan with a question mark
Speaker 1: that sort of lays it out there for you what
Speaker 1: they are, which is essentially they're just against Christian nationalism
Speaker 1: and religion and the government, and they're very much aligned
Speaker 1: with the idea of separation of church and state, which
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. But it's like, I feel like
Speaker 1: you could believe, like you could follow their way of
Speaker 1: thinking when it comes to all that, but then also
Speaker 1: have your own witchcraft practice or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely that you know, that's kind of like ours.
Speaker 4: You know, again, we have the Satanism and then we
Speaker 4: have our practice of witchcraft, and it's all it's all separate.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of unique to us, you know,
Speaker 2: totally it should be.
Speaker 1: I feel like in life, it's like build your own adventure,
Speaker 1: use your adventures sort of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with the Internet, I feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of people's practice is very eclectic these days.
Speaker 1: Sure, why not? But like, okay, when you're as openly
Speaker 1: calling yourself a Satanist as you guys are, do you
Speaker 1: have a lot of like scary people you're dealing with
Speaker 1: that are opposing you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. We have protesters at the shows last tour.
Speaker 3: They were like laying it on real thick they had
Speaker 3: made like they printed banners.
Speaker 4: Yea, they made some. Well, the beginning of the tour,
Speaker 4: we had people with sharpies written on them like like
Speaker 4: that was the beginning of the tour. There was a
Speaker 4: real story over the course of the story.
Speaker 1: Was it the same people or.
Speaker 2: Different group?
Speaker 4: Sure? So maybe just some groups were better. Presentation was better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it started with sharpies Like San Diego showed
Speaker 4: up and there were sharpie t shirts and they were
Speaker 4: just like, is.
Speaker 1: Not it does not align with that world.
Speaker 3: And this was not even arts or crafts. This was
Speaker 3: like a Hanes pretty bloom with a sharpie like.
Speaker 2: God is not dead.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, you know, if you're gonna troll,
Speaker 3: like bring your egg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go to like office or go someplace and get a.
Speaker 2: Second twenty four hour like print.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think they got our feedback though, because towards the
Speaker 3: end they had banners, they had merched, they had shirts.
Speaker 2: They looked better.
Speaker 4: They did look better.
Speaker 3: But but the truth is they're not even like Christian groups. Really,
Speaker 3: they're just like anti queer anti like.
Speaker 1: Swing.
Speaker 4: I forget the name of the group that showed up, like.
Speaker 3: Down for Laveuhan and not down for queer people. It
Speaker 3: was really strange combo, like I forget what they were called.
Speaker 3: But I think their main platform was like anti gay marriage.
Speaker 4: They had some name.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't know, but they had some name and
Speaker 3: that was their secret like mission or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I was really proud to have them out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. And then and then we've had stuff
Speaker 4: show about our house, you know, Bibles show up at
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 2: Yes, actually yeah, yeah that was bad.
Speaker 4: We had someone break into our backyard rummage to our
Speaker 4: trash cans. They found boxes that we had ripped up.
Speaker 4: They put them back ripped to rip seemed to seem
Speaker 4: like that looking like a chucky dollar something. Yeah, taped
Speaker 4: it all perfect because like I walked out there and
Speaker 4: I just stood there staring at this box, like trying
Speaker 4: to comprehend why is the box I had destroyed like
Speaker 4: a week prior on the doorstep. How did it get
Speaker 4: put back together? And what is inside of it?
Speaker 2: But they did this with multiple boxes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is so weird.
Speaker 4: It's so weird. And then like our cameras just happened
Speaker 4: to stop working at that moment, so there there's no
Speaker 4: footage of it, and it was just there and it
Speaker 4: was heavy, like it took multiple people to place these
Speaker 4: boxes on our doorsteps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a group effort.
Speaker 1: But this is the part that scares me about being
Speaker 1: outspoken and being you know, I think about it all
Speaker 1: the time. I feel like I bite my tongue because
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of the people a lot of times, people
Speaker 1: with guns that are like, you know, wanting my existence
Speaker 1: to not be vocal about my beliefs or whatever.
Speaker 2: For sure, I struggle with that too.
Speaker 3: I mean, they hate a woman who you know, speaks
Speaker 3: her mind. You know, they hate when we do that.
Speaker 3: So it's like I've chosen this path. This is like
Speaker 3: I've chosen to be a disruptor. And so it's just
Speaker 3: like when Bibles come to our doorstep. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: I signed up for this, but you know, we got
Speaker 3: a really good piece of advice, which was, if someone's
Speaker 3: going to kill you, they're not going to tell you first.
Speaker 4: You don't worry about the death threats.
Speaker 2: But so the death threats just forget about them.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the ones who wants to come in,
Speaker 3: which then I don't know if that maybe I don't
Speaker 3: think I.
Speaker 4: Feel much better about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interaction, who gave you that?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I won't say a friend?
Speaker 1: Okay, So on the flip side of it, do you
Speaker 1: attract because here's what I think. Every time I've encountered Satanists,
Speaker 1: I often feel again with like the Satanic temple and stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, so many of my beliefs align
Speaker 1: with you. But then I also feel like when I
Speaker 1: meet Satanists, I'm kind of like feeling them out and
Speaker 1: unsure because I do think that whether Satanism is something
Speaker 1: that is meant to cause harm and you know, ruin
Speaker 1: people's lives, eat babies, whatever it is, whether it is
Speaker 1: that or not, I think there's people that are drawn
Speaker 1: to it and they want to be a part. There's
Speaker 1: the Nightstalker, Richard Ramirez types or whatever that are like,
Speaker 1: I want to sacrifice humans and do all this stuff,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to become a Satanist. And then there's
Speaker 1: those people, like do you encounter those people where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're taking this like a different direction than us.
Speaker 3: No, If anything, I think it's like the Christians who
Speaker 3: take things way too far. I mean, I don't actually
Speaker 3: think there's any Satanists that I know of that are
Speaker 3: like involved in like.
Speaker 2: The stereotypical things. I think.
Speaker 3: And here's what I think. I think, for a very
Speaker 3: long time, anyone who's refused to be shackled to norms
Speaker 3: whatever they may be like, or who doesn't fit into
Speaker 3: the box of what you know society has prescribed for you.
Speaker 2: So if you're a woman.
Speaker 3: With some power, or if you're queer, or if you're
Speaker 3: a person of color, what they do to take your
Speaker 3: power away is they say.
Speaker 2: You're a devil worshiper.
Speaker 3: Right, you are a Satanist. And you've seen this for
Speaker 3: like a thousand years.
Speaker 2: The witch hunts.
Speaker 3: When we colonized America after the early modern period, Native
Speaker 3: American traditions all of a sudden are witchcraft are devil worshiped,
Speaker 3: and these were all used as a justification to oppress,
Speaker 3: to enslave, and in many cases to murder. So I
Speaker 3: don't think it's the Satanist doing the the murder. What
Speaker 3: Satanism has been used as a justification to hurt other people.
Speaker 2: And so what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Because we've always been kind of outside, we're outspoken, you know,
Speaker 3: we're like, you know.
Speaker 2: Been called basically witches.
Speaker 3: And devils and demons and evil our whole life for
Speaker 3: you know, the things that were just like literally harmlessly enjoying.
Speaker 2: We're just taking that power back. So it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm a slut, I'm a ways like I'm
Speaker 3: a Satanist. Go ahead, because at that point, there's nothing
Speaker 3: more people can do to you if you take it
Speaker 3: as a way to empower yourself, if you take it back,
Speaker 3: and then it's kind of fun to play with these
Speaker 3: expectations and you know, don this mantle of like evil
Speaker 3: and spooky and scary and like, you know, just messing
Speaker 3: with people a little bit, and it really shows you,
Speaker 3: I think, who people are, because if you want to
Speaker 3: test someone's truly like how open minded.
Speaker 2: They are, tell them you're a Satanist. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not many people that go, sure you do you? You know,
Speaker 2: like whatever floats your boat.
Speaker 3: Like I'm open minded, I'm okay with you expressing who
Speaker 3: you are as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, right.
Speaker 3: A lot of people aren't like that. They go, I
Speaker 3: don't like that. I don't think that ain't rat.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like whatever, I don't know who that was.
Speaker 2: They just came up. It's like the people who tell
Speaker 2: you, you know.
Speaker 1: No, I totally can. I encoached that all the time
Speaker 1: with like I'll talk to people about ghosts and they're
Speaker 1: totally down for it. But then it's like ouiji boards no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I draw the line. And it's just so
Speaker 1: fascinating because like the idea of demons and Satan and devils,
Speaker 1: like it's so a part of our society that it's
Speaker 1: so deep in people. Yeah, that they hear satan Satanists,
Speaker 1: they tense up, they instantly. Because I was raised Catholic,
Speaker 1: which I talk about NonStop I'm obsessed with. I am
Speaker 1: not a Catholic anymore, but I do find that sometimes
Speaker 1: when like I do think if I was on a
Speaker 1: plane going down, I might be like, do a.
Speaker 2: Hail Mary babe, remember me.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I feel that I'm very open minded.
Speaker 1: My my biggest thing is just like I don't like harm.
Speaker 1: Like I don't like people that are looking to cause
Speaker 1: harm to other people, and that includes weaponizing your religion
Speaker 1: if you think that. It's because that's the thing. The
Speaker 1: villains always think that they're the right one, you know,
Speaker 1: Like if you watch a Disney movie, that person thinks
Speaker 1: that they are like fully, I'm I'm in the right,
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of times people like
Speaker 1: weaponize Christianity, you know, they weaponize it against you and
Speaker 1: they're causing harm. I don't like that. That's where I
Speaker 1: draw the line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I will say that our fans on the
Speaker 4: crowds that we draw are definitely the most diverse and
Speaker 4: like kindest, So I hear than any of the cross
Speaker 4: that they've ever been to, you know, So I know
Speaker 4: that we attract that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think too, if there's anything that we personally,
Speaker 3: I can't speak for all Satanists because it's an individual practice, right,
Speaker 3: but if there's one thing that we are trying to
Speaker 3: cultivate under the banner of Satanism or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it. It's just inclusivity, you know. So anyone
Speaker 3: who's felt like outside or been bullied or like us,
Speaker 3: like being called names or been called you know, witches
Speaker 3: growing up because we're a little bit weird, we want
Speaker 3: to be like, this is the place for you, come
Speaker 3: on in because we're freaks too, and like we're flying
Speaker 3: this banner and you belong, you know. And screw the
Speaker 3: Christians out there with their hate beliefs, you know, like totally,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's what we're trying to cultivate.
Speaker 3: And honestly, this is maybe like a controversial opinion, but
Speaker 3: speaking to a lot of my friends who grew up
Speaker 3: in the Christian Church, there is a lot of trauma there.
Speaker 3: And I have heard a lot of really wild story
Speaker 3: in ways that they've been harmed both physically by the
Speaker 3: people in the church and also what these beliefs do
Speaker 3: to you in terms of instilling this sense of shame,
Speaker 3: this deep shame that eats at you for being who
Speaker 3: you are and literally harming no one. I think that's
Speaker 3: so harmful, and not every Christian church is like that.
Speaker 3: I've also met Christians who listen.
Speaker 2: To our music and are like fine, and they're.
Speaker 3: Taking these principles of you know, love thy neighbor and
Speaker 3: whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, so I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I think what bothers me most of all is judging people,
Speaker 3: telling them to not be who they are because you
Speaker 3: disagree with literally who they are.
Speaker 2: In their own life, like hurting nobody.
Speaker 3: So like that's what bothers me. I cannot stand that.
Speaker 3: And I cannot stand people who harass and torment and
Speaker 3: make a legal well, the ways we want to live,
Speaker 3: the people we want to love, like I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just like it's none of their business in my opinion.
Speaker 3: So I think in a way, that's why we hang
Speaker 3: this banner. It's like it makes people who have felt
Speaker 3: rejected feel welcome in terms of like harming people or
Speaker 3: you know, devil, there's none of.
Speaker 1: That, Okay, I totally get it. Yeah, And I apologize
Speaker 1: for when I put those boxes back together and put
Speaker 1: them back You're really good. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2: How long did it take you?
Speaker 1: A couple hours?
Speaker 2: Because like I would have thought, like your life would
Speaker 2: have kept you busy.
Speaker 1: I've got time now, I've got time when it comes
Speaker 1: to that kind of thing. So I'll never do it again. Okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about go. Yeah, so where do we
Speaker 1: start with that? For the two of you? I mean,
Speaker 1: so you both believe?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I guess shall we define ghost How
Speaker 4: do you define ghosts?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very much like I don't know what
Speaker 1: any of it is, but unexplainable events, you know, these
Speaker 1: things that you really don't feel like you can come
Speaker 1: up with an answer for. But but it happened, and
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. I don't know for sure for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean all I know is I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I'm smart enough to know I'm not smart enough to
Speaker 2: know everything.
Speaker 1: No, I like that. I don't like know it alls
Speaker 1: when it comes to the paranormal. I don't like know
Speaker 1: it all because I'm like, we don't. It's called the
Speaker 1: unknown thing. That's the whole point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So did you okay, did you both grow up with
Speaker 1: an understanding or a belief in ghosts?
Speaker 2: Probably an interest. I remember those scary stories.
Speaker 1: Scary stories of tell in the dark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I just.
Speaker 3: Always loved a good story and anything macabre and like horror,
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, I just gravitated towards towards it for sure.
Speaker 1: So when's like the first time either of you feel
Speaker 1: like you may have had one of these experiences.
Speaker 4: I would say the most clear cut and dry one
Speaker 4: was we took a photo of Grand Parson's ghost.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait a second, this is the place in Joshua Tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joshua Tree Motel.
Speaker 1: I know it. I know exactly the place. Oh have
Speaker 1: you been there? I've never been there. That's okay, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea. I hate staying in haunted hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: Hate it. I've done it all too. But I also
Speaker 1: recently came up with this idea to start a YouTube
Speaker 1: channel where I go and do that for a couple
Speaker 1: of days. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: I've stayed near it, but I've never done it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This was like my birthday and twenty fifth birthday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We stayed in the room next to his where Emulu
Speaker 4: Harris stayed the night he died.
Speaker 1: Yes, and what's the story with him? I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know much about Graham. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me, uh.
Speaker 4: Well, Graham Parsons. He was a country singer, you know,
Speaker 4: and he kind of made it hip. You know in
Speaker 4: the sixties, late sixties, early seventies, you know, period kind
Speaker 4: of helped create this country rock kind of moment in
Speaker 4: like Laurel Canyon with other people obviously, like he was
Speaker 4: in the Birds, the Band of the Birds for a bit, okay,
Speaker 4: and then he went off and started Flying Burrito Brothers,
Speaker 4: and then he went solo and had just Grand Parsons.
Speaker 4: And that was a period when when he passed finally,
Speaker 4: he overdosed drinking and drugging at the Joshua Tree Motel
Speaker 4: overdose there.
Speaker 3: And we're big fans of cool music, and so you know,
Speaker 3: we wanted to get haunted on my birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were out there and we.
Speaker 2: Went to and stayed in his hotel room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we stayed stayed with friends, and we were out
Speaker 4: there around around midnight or so. We were singing his songs,
Speaker 4: you know, and just verse believe being like, come on out, Graham,
Speaker 4: just inviting them, you know, you want to sing the
Speaker 4: song or whatever.
Speaker 3: We were drinking, yeah, and then which you know, invite
Speaker 3: spirits in, it doesn't sure.
Speaker 4: And then you know, her and her friend take a
Speaker 4: photo whatever. So I started taking photos.
Speaker 3: Because I think y'all are going to show this photo,
Speaker 3: and so I need to explain this hat.
Speaker 4: Okay, you can't even see.
Speaker 2: You can't see it.
Speaker 3: I just would hate to think people, you know, would
Speaker 3: think that this was my hat. So this room had
Speaker 3: very hobby labby chic decor, like a hat that was
Speaker 3: entirely made out of potpourri, you know, like like a
Speaker 3: skance like on one of the tables, and I just
Speaker 3: thought it was really funny.
Speaker 1: So you want to make it clear that is not
Speaker 1: yours your.
Speaker 2: I would like might just say I didn't go to
Speaker 2: show my hands and make this head.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're not going to try to ruin your.
Speaker 3: Have a reputation to you, pretet. This is the disclaimer
Speaker 3: on that photo.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So in order to clear the.
Speaker 1: Viewing of don't you worry.
Speaker 3: So I thought this because I am clown, So I
Speaker 3: took the popury hat and everything becomes a hat, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's literally was how this photo started.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like we've got a sounds and we are capture.
Speaker 2: Goes evil and spooky.
Speaker 3: It was just like drunk and then Zachli turned ashen gray.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm taking photos of her in front out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, like I'm you know, I can kind of
Speaker 4: see off my phone camera but also through the phone
Speaker 4: and out of nowhere I can't see with my eyes,
Speaker 4: but through the phone, I see the shape of like
Speaker 4: a head and shoulders literally float through the phone, walk
Speaker 4: through the phone, and I'm just snapping away as it happens.
Speaker 4: So I get we got one photo. And if you
Speaker 4: look at the photo, the light like it sucked all
Speaker 4: the light from everywhere, like every light source just got
Speaker 4: like put into this figure like it was glowing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's got this crazy kind of like white to
Speaker 4: blue color, like it's just wild. And I watched him move.
Speaker 2: What's weird?
Speaker 3: Is too for Potpourri privacy, we won't be showing these.
Speaker 3: But the photo before and after is just.
Speaker 2: A normal photo.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So like when this photo happened, we got dark and
Speaker 3: this figure.
Speaker 1: You know, sucked it's like all the light.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like glowing as wild.
Speaker 2: You all ready to see it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we see it? Oh my god? What is that? Potpourri?
Speaker 1: I told Jealous, Well, anyone that wants to see this,
Speaker 1: that's ghosted by ros on Instagram.
Speaker 4: So but on the top right, so that was like
Speaker 4: the head so again like he's already kind of out
Speaker 4: of frame. But ye, so the top glow like roundish
Speaker 4: glows his head and then if you look down to
Speaker 4: the left, that's like the left shoulder, you know, like
Speaker 4: if you imagine someone kind of walking through the frame,
Speaker 4: but I guess maybe be kind of right shoulder at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was him, Like but it's like.
Speaker 4: You've got a head and then a shoulder and then
Speaker 4: just like the body. And it was like the same
Speaker 4: size as a human because.
Speaker 2: You could see us standing. He was about like our height.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's my best friend Jin and that's me
Speaker 3: and not my hat.
Speaker 1: That is cool, I think, especially the fact that it's
Speaker 1: illuminating like that and really really adds to it because
Speaker 1: a lot of times when we see like orbs and
Speaker 1: stuff like that on photos, like they can be easily explained,
Speaker 1: but when there's like a source of light coming out
Speaker 1: of whatever this is, it's pretty ld.
Speaker 2: Chet because you can see behind I'm like dark, there
Speaker 2: was no light.
Speaker 4: I mean we're outside in the front of a motel with.
Speaker 3: A flash on, so it's like the flash hit that
Speaker 3: thing and then darkened us in the background.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because we tried.
Speaker 3: We went on a quest to figure out if this
Speaker 3: could like how yeah, it would happen.
Speaker 4: We kept after it happened, we found it, we kept
Speaker 4: taking photos, you know, like, oh maybe it was a
Speaker 4: weird angle, like what happened with this, and we could
Speaker 4: not recreate it. It would not happen again. And I watched
Speaker 4: it move. I mean, it wasn't like like you said,
Speaker 4: you literally came into the camera and out of the camera.
Speaker 4: Like I watched him just float or whatever it is
Speaker 4: float through. I've never seen anything like that before.
Speaker 2: I haven't either.
Speaker 1: It's definitely one of the good ones.
Speaker 3: So, in your professional opinion, is this a ghost because
Speaker 3: this is your forte you're just amateur ghost?
Speaker 1: I definitely. I have a hard time, ever officially, ever
Speaker 1: saying that's a ghost.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you need like a gavel with like a ghost.
Speaker 1: That's what I say all the time. I feel like
Speaker 1: I should be the one that's like this is or
Speaker 1: it isn't. But I would say again, given the fact
Speaker 1: that that the light is coming out of it, it's
Speaker 1: so blue. Yeah, and if from what you say that
Speaker 1: the way you've described it happening, I mean, it's very
Speaker 1: convincing to me and it's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I mean I don't know, but we
Speaker 3: have no explanation for it.
Speaker 1: I will call it a ghost Okay, Yeah, all right, ruled, ruled.
Speaker 1: So that's the first time, Zagary, that you ever like
Speaker 1: thought ghosts.
Speaker 4: Were real, right, I mean, I wouldn't say it was
Speaker 4: the first time I thought they were real. I believed
Speaker 4: in ghosts prior. I have some family members, my mom's uncle,
Speaker 4: he was like a spiritual advisor to the Barrymoores family,
Speaker 4: whoa yeah, and there was reports of his he had
Speaker 4: like a he lived in the desert oddly enough, in
Speaker 4: Joshua Tree, and he had this house with like these
Speaker 4: stone figures kind of lining the walkway, and my mom
Speaker 4: said she always felt like they were kind of watching her.
Speaker 4: So I feel like there was always talk about kind
Speaker 4: of like supernatural and he would try and like teach
Speaker 4: her with like tarot cards and like Xenner cards, like
Speaker 4: you know, see the symbol, you know, telepathically. So I
Speaker 4: feel like those ideas were already kind of swirling around,
Speaker 4: But this is the first time that I felt like I,
Speaker 4: without a doubt saw ghosts. I mean, we asked him
Speaker 4: to come out and then this thing happened. So, and
Speaker 4: what about you.
Speaker 1: Have had you seen a ghost or experienced one before this?
Speaker 2: Um?
Speaker 1: Yes, tell me, tell me.
Speaker 2: But it's a really sad story.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I have this thing when someone I love
Speaker 3: uh passes away, they visit.
Speaker 1: Me, oh soul.
Speaker 3: A few years before that, when I was twenty, one
Speaker 3: of my really good girlfriends died. She was hit by
Speaker 3: a drunk driver. And this was the first time I
Speaker 3: ever saw a ghosts. I woke up in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night and she was standing at my bed
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 6: Did the whole movie thing where I put the covers
Speaker 6: over my head and peeked down and she's still there.
Speaker 2: Was something I did, that whole.
Speaker 1: Thing that's supposed to make them disappear.
Speaker 2: It didn't.
Speaker 1: But it's your best friend, so that's yeah, it could
Speaker 1: be worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, And it wasn't anything.
Speaker 3: It was like she was just there and it was
Speaker 3: really weird and it scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 3: And then the next night she came to me in
Speaker 3: a dream and it was just like, don't worry. And
Speaker 3: this has happened with everyone who I've loved who.
Speaker 2: Has died shortly after.
Speaker 3: I will undeniably have them visit me in a dream like.
Speaker 2: Dreams are kind of a place that I, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, work a lot of magic and kind of draw
Speaker 3: inspiration from. And I have a strong connection to, you know,
Speaker 3: the lunar side of things in my dreams.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a place for me. And I
Speaker 2: also like practice like.
Speaker 3: Lucid dreaming, where you like wake up in your dreams
Speaker 3: and there's it hits different when you are conscious that
Speaker 3: you're dreaming. And so in all of these instances, I've
Speaker 3: been like, I'm asleep, this is a dream and I'm
Speaker 3: seeing this person who passed away. This has happened like
Speaker 3: four times now, and each time they definitely have a
Speaker 3: message of like comfort. One though, was kind of like
Speaker 3: unfinished vibes. So I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you feel like you're a little
Speaker 1: bit psychic medium?
Speaker 3: No, because just ask sac I never know what he's thinking.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that is so wild. I am the
Speaker 1: opposite now. I try not to get offended by this,
Speaker 1: but my loved ones never visit me.
Speaker 2: I just don't like you girls.
Speaker 1: They're done when they say goodbye, they're done, and they
Speaker 1: know how A podcast about ghosts. They know how much
Speaker 1: it would be great for me to tell a story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rude.
Speaker 1: My dog of fourteen years died. Oh I'm waiting. He
Speaker 1: is not interested. Yeah, I don't understand why he won't
Speaker 1: just pop by. He knows that that would make for
Speaker 1: great content, but also what would be I'm fretting a
Speaker 1: nice but so, yeah, it's I wonder why they do
Speaker 1: come to you, like, I don't know. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe it's a good thing, like you've left
Speaker 3: them with no doubt that they can move on and
Speaker 3: that you'll be okay, and that you don't need to
Speaker 3: like dredge them up from the beyond.
Speaker 2: To like, you know, worry about you.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that helps your mourning? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would think so too. Yes, yeah, because they're like, I'm okay,
Speaker 1: everything's fine, and that makes me feel better.
Speaker 3: They usually have some sort of weird well, like a
Speaker 3: couple of them my grandmother's had kind of this. It
Speaker 3: wasn't so much words as a feeling like I don't
Speaker 3: even know how to explain it, but like some of
Speaker 3: the things that you've been dreaming of doing, or like
Speaker 3: really wanting four is like will happen for you kind
Speaker 3: of yeah.
Speaker 2: Just strange, Yeah, like it's weird.
Speaker 3: Shortly after like my grandmother passed away in like twenty
Speaker 3: eight seventeen, was it.
Speaker 2: Now, We've been trying to do music like our whole lives,
Speaker 2: like for.
Speaker 3: Hundreds of years and never really got anywhere, and like
Speaker 3: we were at the point of being like, that's why
Speaker 3: we started Twin Temple is like, well, let's just do
Speaker 3: a project where we get to do absolutely everything we
Speaker 3: want that like will never have like suits involved with that,
Speaker 3: will never like have to be anything but what we
Speaker 3: truly love. But I was at this junction where I
Speaker 3: was just like I probably should just you know, never
Speaker 3: dream of doing this anymore, and I should just quit
Speaker 3: and I should just keep doing these crappy jobs that
Speaker 3: I don't love and do music as like a hobby.
Speaker 2: And my grandma was like, nah, you're you're to do it.
Speaker 3: Like in so many words, because she always like followed
Speaker 3: my career and she cut the little, you know, articles
Speaker 3: out if we ever got a crappy local piper to
Speaker 3: you know, put my name in it or anything. And
Speaker 3: she actually liked singing and like wanted to be a
Speaker 3: singer at one point. You know, her dad was a singer,
Speaker 3: sang it like the pub and stuff, so she was
Speaker 3: rooting for me and she kind of told me that.
Speaker 3: And shortly after we signed with our agent in the.
Speaker 2: Most like it shouldn't have happened, Like.
Speaker 3: We literally cold called our agent who also like Books,
Speaker 3: Ghost and Slayer and you know, all these great bands,
Speaker 3: and we're like, we just emailed him. We found his
Speaker 3: email like out of the blue, like hunted it down.
Speaker 3: We're just like, hey, want to like fuck us on
Speaker 3: a tour? And he wrote back wow and was like yo.
Speaker 2: This music is brad Like yeah, I actually do when
Speaker 2: we're like what co So.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I had that reassurance from her,
Speaker 3: and it literally happened when I was out in England
Speaker 3: like at her.
Speaker 2: Funeral, and it was really strange.
Speaker 3: I can't really explain it, but she kind of said
Speaker 3: like don't give up, you know, and so it kind
Speaker 3: of gave me this strength to just be like.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: It was her my gavel, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 2: So strange that our agent, which is like yeah, hi,
Speaker 2: like I don't.
Speaker 3: Can you just email people like I mean, like Hollywood,
Speaker 3: I'm a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Do and they don't get that response. Yeah, so that's incredible.
Speaker 2: So it was pretty weird. So I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe too serious conversation.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we love that hair. Here's another question with
Speaker 1: you guys having your thud with the spooky thing, the imagery,
Speaker 1: the whatever. Now that I know you guys have like
Speaker 1: a belief of this stuff. You know, you're open minded
Speaker 1: to the idea of ghosts and all that, Like, do
Speaker 1: you ever feel that you might conjure up some dark energy?
Speaker 4: No, I guess, well, it's like other than me in
Speaker 4: the morning. I think I think about it, like the
Speaker 4: concept of evil is so subjective as it is, you know,
Speaker 4: because like, well we deem evil somewhere else in the
Speaker 4: world they do not, or vice versa. So I think,
Speaker 4: like the idea that there are just like evil spirits
Speaker 4: around doesn't even exist because they can't because it's so subjective.
Speaker 4: Because like I look at like a horror you know,
Speaker 4: a picture of a a horror film, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that looks cool. Another person gets scared or another person
Speaker 4: gets like queasy, So like there is no blanket good
Speaker 4: or evil. Oh, I do think though, in the practice
Speaker 4: of magic, you can you know, evoke or invoke energies
Speaker 4: that are just like reservoirs of energy that have been
Speaker 4: kind of placed there for certain like a tool, like
Speaker 4: you go to workshop and you grab a tool for something,
Speaker 4: so like you can't access energies that have certain and
Speaker 4: tools certain abilities. But I don't think they're evil or
Speaker 4: anything like that. You know, it's all how you use them.
Speaker 4: You know, like magic is like a tool and it's
Speaker 4: in the owner, you know, the person's discretion, you know,
Speaker 4: how they use it.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot lately, like there's all these
Speaker 1: people that will find my social media and they'll tell
Speaker 1: me I'm evil and alone I'm just over here like
Speaker 1: making silly jokes about like I went on a date
Speaker 1: the other day, and they're like, yeah, evil whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I've always been so afraid
Speaker 1: that a demon's going to pop up next to my
Speaker 1: bed in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, because people call you evil.
Speaker 1: No, no, just I've just been scared of that idea.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, maybe a demon would see me
Speaker 1: and be like, sucker, we see you. Yeah, what you're
Speaker 1: doing is great.
Speaker 2: Keep it up probably, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's your interpretation.
Speaker 1: I love that pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Hell has all the cool people.
Speaker 1: That's what I keep thinking, Like, those are going to
Speaker 1: be our roommates, so you have to like be cool
Speaker 1: with all the people that are going there.
Speaker 2: That's why we're starting now.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I invited you guys here because I
Speaker 1: want to be where the good music is in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: You know what. There's wait, so we got rock and
Speaker 2: Roll down in Hill.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: You also were saying that you have a story about.
Speaker 2: The Whaley House. Have you been there?
Speaker 1: Of course, I've been at Whale.
Speaker 2: Anything happened when you're there?
Speaker 1: The Whaley House in San Diego, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was another birthday. I have a pattern.
Speaker 1: I've been a few times there. I've never been able
Speaker 1: to like have it to myself, you know. I've always
Speaker 1: been there during during business hours. Yeah, and I can't
Speaker 1: say I've ever experienced anything, Okay, but you have.
Speaker 4: Well, when we were in the courthouse all the sentencing
Speaker 4: for the hangings.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen the things spin around like there's like
Speaker 1: a it's not a chandelier, some kind of lighter picture.
Speaker 1: One time that happened and I was like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: something I don't.
Speaker 4: We just heard like papers shuffling and like you could
Speaker 4: just kind of hear murmurs, like it was almost like
Speaker 4: you were sitting in on like a like before you hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just like chairs kind of shuffling, like papers,
Speaker 6: like low talking, and we thought that you know how
Speaker 6: sometimes you go to museums and they have sounds that
Speaker 6: are like.
Speaker 1: Recreating like the time period.
Speaker 2: The time period.
Speaker 3: So we were like, oh, like we didn't think anything
Speaker 3: of it at all, and then.
Speaker 2: We asked the tour lady after, like what was.
Speaker 3: The happened in that courtroom? And what were like, what
Speaker 3: was the like noises supposed to be? And she's like
Speaker 3: what noise? And we're like we both independently heard it
Speaker 3: and didn't even really talk about it though, because I
Speaker 3: was like, you were that right, and he was like yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I was like it wasn't it was like courtroom ghost.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like it's evabillating or anything, but it
Speaker 2: was a thing.
Speaker 1: It's like what they call residual hauntings, where it's yeah,
Speaker 1: probably sort of like these little moments in time that
Speaker 1: are just replaying over and over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like super boring, like haunted by papers,
Speaker 2: haunted by like paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my paper. I
Speaker 2: feel like we have so many ghost stories to talk about.
Speaker 1: Tell me one more one mare.
Speaker 2: No, because you were there for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, that's true, you.
Speaker 2: Left me.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: Okay. So we were on tour. And what is the
Speaker 2: name of the hotel?
Speaker 4: It's it's in San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Where Robert Johnson cut a record.
Speaker 4: He recorded as only like known recordings.
Speaker 1: Who's Robert Johns?
Speaker 4: Robert Johnson? Have you heard the story of like the
Speaker 4: blues guitar player who sold his soul at the Crossroads?
Speaker 1: Yes, I have heard that story.
Speaker 4: That's Robert Johnson.
Speaker 1: So can you remind me that story? Though I know
Speaker 1: I've heard it, But what is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So Robert Johnson? What like in the twenties, Robert
Speaker 4: Johnson is a blues guitar player who reportedly sucked, couldn't
Speaker 4: play at all, and he disappears from a little town
Speaker 4: and again supposedly sells his soul to the devil at
Speaker 4: the crossroads. Comes back turn for the ability to play,
Speaker 4: to play and sing now and supposedly he had this
Speaker 4: like double voice where he could sing and they would
Speaker 4: be like two voices coming.
Speaker 2: Out at once, like pitch harmonics.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't really hear that in his recordings personally,
Speaker 4: they're hunting, they're cool, they sound great. Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: he comes back and oh he's a guitar tredder, you
Speaker 4: know whatever. So he records it's for his only album
Speaker 4: there at this hotel.
Speaker 2: Gunter Gun, yeahn Gunter Gun something like that.
Speaker 4: I've got it. I've got a fact check some stupcoming,
Speaker 4: which it is. It is the Gunter wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well, I we didn't know anything about this hotel, but
Speaker 3: you just showed up randomly.
Speaker 4: We didn't even know it was Robert Johnson, which is
Speaker 4: cool because we're fans. That was what the heck.
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't in the house though, Robert was not there,
Speaker 3: So I was in the hotel room and Zach was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out or whatever.
Speaker 2: Do you want to go out? And I was like
Speaker 2: really tired. Oh you you were doing I don't know ya,
Speaker 2: we just went out. You went out.
Speaker 1: What what were you doing?
Speaker 2: Probably carrying on like we used to back in the day.
Speaker 4: That's what you do, okay.
Speaker 3: I was just staying in the hotel room, and it
Speaker 3: was like I'm going to order room service and just
Speaker 3: like hang out and watch you know, TV and.
Speaker 1: Then what does the Satanist watch on TV?
Speaker 2: Christmas movies?
Speaker 1: Spooky Hallmark?
Speaker 2: Yeah those are the scariest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I was just like watching random.
Speaker 2: Hotel TV and I had the full shebang.
Speaker 3: Lights flickered, it became icy cold in the room, like
Speaker 3: I could see my breath, it was freezing, and I
Speaker 3: was like messing with the thermostat and I just had
Speaker 3: that feeling of someone's in this room, and I was like,
Speaker 3: is it the room.
Speaker 2: Service that's here?
Speaker 1: Is what? Like?
Speaker 3: I got really scared because I actually thought someone was
Speaker 3: there and I was all broken alone.
Speaker 4: Or like I just yeah, and you started texting.
Speaker 3: I started texting him like I think someone's here, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm really scared.
Speaker 2: Can you come back? Like this is so weird.
Speaker 3: Of course, by the time he comes back, none of
Speaker 3: these weird creepy things are happening, so he was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're like a lie.
Speaker 1: She drag you out of the strip club or wherever
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 4: Rushed back, so.
Speaker 2: That place was just like what, you're cold?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know because you're I was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's really cold, so how did we figure?
Speaker 4: You started certain? You were like, this is really weird,
Speaker 4: so you started googling and then she starts texting me
Speaker 4: it's haunted, it's haunted, and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I wasn't really paying.
Speaker 2: Attention, you know, yeah, this is our relationship. But yeah,
Speaker 2: So I found out that.
Speaker 3: A grizzly unsolved murder happened a few doors down from
Speaker 3: my hotel room, where they found a bathtub full of
Speaker 3: blood and no.
Speaker 2: Body and nobody no, Like, I think they don't know
Speaker 2: where her body is.
Speaker 4: I don't think they found it.
Speaker 2: I don't think they because I was trying to search
Speaker 2: what happened. They might have found it in like the
Speaker 2: water tower or that was.
Speaker 1: Like does the Cecil Hotel?
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Okay, yeah, so they just had a
Speaker 3: bathtub full of blood and this young lady who was murdered,
Speaker 3: and then I lost it.
Speaker 4: I was just like, then I think we came back.
Speaker 1: You're like, did you find that out when you were there?
Speaker 3: I was like googling it afterwards because I was just like,
Speaker 3: what is this Why is this hotel so cold?
Speaker 2: Like why what is going on?
Speaker 3: Like that was like not the potpourri haunting. This was
Speaker 3: like you know, horror movie haunting, like really scary, Like
Speaker 3: it scared the living hell out of me.
Speaker 1: I do that all the time when I'm in a
Speaker 1: haunted hotel or what if I go to any hotel anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's a ramata whatever. As soon
Speaker 1: as I'm laying in bed and I'm done for the
Speaker 1: night with my show or whatever and I'm just like chilling,
Speaker 1: I will google this specific place is it haunted? And
Speaker 1: sometimes I should do that before I get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna start doing that before.
Speaker 1: Few times I have found like articles of like really
Speaker 1: murder occurs or whatever.
Speaker 2: I did not like it.
Speaker 3: I would not actively pursue that feeling, and I would
Speaker 3: avoid it because yeah, well, I mean, I'm never staying
Speaker 3: in that hotel again. I hated the experience. It felt awful,
Speaker 3: like it felt like you're, you know, dying kind of.
Speaker 1: Did you write a yelp? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I gave him like log to yelp.
Speaker 1: Are the review? Are there's satanic? Karens? Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Not that I've met.
Speaker 1: I think there's witch Karens.
Speaker 4: Oh, for sure, there's probably.
Speaker 1: There's paranormal Karens. There's there's a lot of like like, actually,
Speaker 1: that's not how you do that ritual you're supposed to
Speaker 1: like girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, oh we have gotten that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, like more witchcraft. Like people like to
Speaker 4: think there's only one way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just no.
Speaker 1: I totally know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: But yet as we're talking like, we have so many
Speaker 3: paranormal experiences.
Speaker 1: Actually, well, I hope you guys will want to come
Speaker 1: back again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love to thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: Let's do one last thing because we do this pretty
Speaker 1: much every episode. Can I play some ghost voice through? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time for EVP or ev please. Okay, So what
Speaker 1: I do is I go to YouTube and I find
Speaker 1: EVPs Electronic Voice phenomenon. Okay, this is when people believe
Speaker 1: they've captured a ghost speaking. Okay, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: play two of them, and I'll give you an abc
Speaker 1: D option of what they believe the ghost is saying,
Speaker 1: and I want you to choose the right answer.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna a this.
Speaker 1: This first one was posted by someone on YouTube named
Speaker 1: Kenda Elise, and it is at their local Cracker Barrel
Speaker 1: Old Country Store.
Speaker 4: Cracker Barrel Ghost.
Speaker 1: They believe that their Cracker Barrel's Old Country Store is haunted.
Speaker 2: Haunted by the Biscuits.
Speaker 4: Wonderful.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they recorded this during business hours. Uh
Speaker 1: what is this ghost saying? Okay, okay, so you can
Speaker 1: hear yes, so you can hear some you can hear
Speaker 1: people talking in the background, but then you can hear
Speaker 1: this voice. It's kind of like, man, they're kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're singing like.
Speaker 4: A jingle, little R and B. Can we hear it again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can sample that if you're now we're gonna maybe,
Speaker 1: are you dude?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to give it some edge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a bad guess.
Speaker 2: So they bob up.
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options. Okay, do they think it
Speaker 1: was A. It is Nancy, Nancy, I got name Nancy.
Speaker 1: Do they think it was B This.
Speaker 5: Food is nasty? C I'm feeling fancy or d ooh
Speaker 5: that's tasty?
Speaker 1: Okay, which one is that? I'm going to play it
Speaker 1: again one more time. Actually, I'll probably play it more
Speaker 1: than once.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be nasty.
Speaker 3: Yah, knowing what I know about the cracker barrel, it's
Speaker 3: definitely it is nasty.
Speaker 2: I'm not except any other it is.
Speaker 1: Actually, ah, it is nancy, now that we know that
Speaker 1: potatoes potatoes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I can hear the sea.
Speaker 1: You can kind of hear it. Okay, wait, I have
Speaker 1: one more for you. This one is another interesting one.
Speaker 1: It was recorded at a crossroads, or well sort of
Speaker 1: not a crossroads like.
Speaker 4: I like the vintage totally.
Speaker 1: Somebody was selling their clothes. Now, it was recorded at
Speaker 1: a train train tracks. That's the word. A train is
Speaker 1: going by, and they believe that they've captured a voice
Speaker 1: speaking as the train goes by. Their YouTube channel is
Speaker 1: called they still speak, okay, what is this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Okay, it just sounds like a train.
Speaker 1: Well, there is a train going by. But then there's
Speaker 1: a voice that's like okay, okay. Now there's a squeaky
Speaker 1: as well that they need to loop up those train tracks.
Speaker 1: But there's a.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna need the.
Speaker 1: Okay. Did they think it was a would you eat B?
Speaker 1: I want you to teach C what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Or D where's the beef.
Speaker 2: That's grow? I still don't even hear.
Speaker 3: Is it the worst they.
Speaker 1: Believe it is? Be I want you to teach. Okay,
Speaker 1: now that we know that, let's see if we can
Speaker 1: hear that.
Speaker 2: I can hear.
Speaker 1: I think it's I want you to eat or something.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: I like option a would you eat that a ghost
Speaker 3: would haunt a train, just.
Speaker 2: To be like, would you eat?
Speaker 1: What did you eat?
Speaker 3: Like I'm assuming the person farted right, and then like
Speaker 3: they're just like smelling it and like haunting a ghost
Speaker 3: to troll them over the smell right?
Speaker 1: As I always say, farts and burbs are the ghosts
Speaker 1: of food. Yes, it is.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm going Option one.
Speaker 1: Wow, Twin Temple. I can't believe that the two of
Speaker 1: you have found each other. I think that there's something
Speaker 1: supernatural to that.
Speaker 2: I had to dig for a long time.
Speaker 4: Took a lot of digging six feet.
Speaker 1: You guys are cool. Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2: I was so fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 2: I love your podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I want people to listen to your music and support
Speaker 1: all that you do. So where do they do all that?
Speaker 1: Tell us what we need to know? You touring?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going on tour, Allen Angels tour, Twin temple
Speaker 4: dot com for all that stuff, and we're on We're
Speaker 4: on all the usual stuff and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well you're dark sided and I think that
Speaker 1: we should all send bibles to you. Thank you. Yeah
Speaker 1: you do not, No, I think you has a great
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, this so fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Zachary and Alexandra from twin Temple. See,
Speaker 1: Satanists aren't always so bad, right, Please don't show up
Speaker 1: at my house. Please please don't do any of that
Speaker 1: stuff to be okay, I'm just a nice lady tell
Speaker 1: of jokes and having an open mind and giving a
Speaker 1: platform to people that I think are doing something harmless
Speaker 1: and wonderful. Thank you so much for listening. I love
Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't
Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back.
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Speaker 1: senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is
Speaker 1: the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound
Speaker 1: designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is
Speaker 1: the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair
Speaker 1: raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by the
Speaker 1: spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
Speaker 1: Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start, and the
Speaker 1: Frightening Danielle Kramer.