1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to this week's episode of your favorite podcast, 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Cheeky's and Chill. Today, we're joined by Sarah Abraham. Some 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: of you may know her from MTV's Teen Mom or 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen and Pregnant. She's a TV personality, an author, a comedian, 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: and more. We're going to talk all about life lessons, 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: including overcoming trauma and letting go of resentment. This episode 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: discusses some adult themes, so listener discretion is advised. Sarah, 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on. I'm so excited 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: to speak to you. How are you feeling. How are 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: you doing today? 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me on, and I am 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: doing good. I am a little hot in Kentucky right now. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: I'm at the Louder than Life festival with my daughter, Sophia. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: So I'm a hard rock mom. I'm a heavy metal 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: mama right now. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: Haha. 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: I love it. That's so cool that you're doing this 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: with your daughter. I love that. 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's a good time. How old is 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: Sophia new Yeah. 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: Sophia is sixteen and she's the same age I started 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: sixteen and pregnant, So it's just been a. 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Full circle year for us. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that, but I do want 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: to talk about I mean, let's just get right into it. 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Are you good with that? Yeah, let's do it, okay. 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: So I knowpe a lot of people have misconceptions of you, 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: So I wanted to start off by asking who is Sarah? 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: Who am I? I am the best person you're ever 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: going to meet. 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: I would say, I'm known for sixteen and Pregnant on MTV, 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: and then it turned into then I turned into a 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: teen Mom, and then a show called teen Mom was 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: created on MTD, and I turned into a global franchise, 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: so they had teen Moms in Poland and UK all over, 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: and I did that for a decade of my life. 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: And then I continued on with like celebrity big Brother, 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: ex on the Beach, I don't even know, couple, syrapy. 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: There's been so many. But then today. 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: I have started my own comedy career, so I'm the 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: teen mom of comedy of course, I know that's so cool. Yeah, 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: And I've just continued on with my books, being a 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: New York Times bestselling author, oddly getting awards in like 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: the adult entertainment space. 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: So there's just. 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: Been all these facets of Sarah Abraham, So I don't 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: think I could just answer it. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: With Sarah is only or was a pregnant cheerleader. 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: She is a full on, living, happy, feminine goddess of 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: Sarah Abraham, and that is me. 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: I love that because that's where I was like, Okay, 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I want to get to that, to the core of 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: Farah because people can say so many things, and I 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: understand because I've done reality television and we expose our lives, 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: but then we also open that door for people to 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: just have opinions and sometimes very negative opinions, and I'm like, 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: wait a second, you don't really know who I am. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: You're in my heart, you know, So that's yeah. And 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: to me, you seem really cool, easy going. I mean, 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: look at you. You're at a festival with your daughter, 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: which I think is freaking awesome. You guys are like 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: you know that. It reminds me of my mom. My 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: mom had me when she was fifteen. She passed away, 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: so I'm like, I would I know she would have 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: been with me though at a festival, Like we did 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fun things together before she passed, So 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: I think it's it's amazing, yeah, And I just love 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: to see how close you are to your daughter. I 69 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: was looking at your Instagram and everything, and it's like, 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you're just like a cool mom. It reminded me a 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of my mom and I. But talking about your 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: daughter Sophia now that she's sixteen, yeah, can you like 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: imagine her, you know, being pregnant at sixteen? I mean, 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: like cause I see my niece and she's fifteen, and 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness, I don't have kids yet, 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: but I see her and I'm like, oh my gosh, 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: my mom was her age when she and I can't. 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I see her like an 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: innocent little girl, you know. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: I mean, like, what do you think about yourself you 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: were sixteen or fifteen? Would you think that you were 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: ever ready to be or I mean here, I don't 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: ever think I was ready to be pregnant, So I think. 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: I got to say that. 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, But my daughter always looks at me like, because 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: she was asked the other day in her own interview 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: and they're like, could you imagine being like pregnant right now? 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: And I think normally my daughter, Syphia says, I look 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: at my mom and like where I am? And I 91 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: don't know how she did it, and I think, like 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: from rereading my own book that made me a New 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: York Times was selling author, my teenage dream. 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Ended, that's awesome. 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: I reread that version of Farah and I am damn 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: proud of that girl who I once was because it 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: was actually very hard. And that's why I want to 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: make it into a movie. I want to do a 99 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: film adaptation. But no, I don't think my daughter ever 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: feels like she'd be pregnant, get pregnant. 101 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: I think that's like old school thought mentality. 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: That's like disconnected with where our society and our gen 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: zs are. I believe our gen z or see the 104 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: gaps in our constitution, the gaps in our laws, the 105 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: gaps in mental health, the gaps and abuse. And I 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: think that is why it's allowed her to be softer. 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: It's allowed her to enjoy her age. It's allowed her 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: to not feel like she has to, you know, go 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: go go like I did. I mean, I started my 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: own companies very young. I was in the newspaper. I 111 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: was like winning invention conventions. I was always making more 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: money than my neighbors on my own Like I don't 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: know jobs that I created. 114 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: I was hiring my sister to work for me, my 115 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: neighbors to work for me. 116 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: And I just have to say, like, I felt like 117 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: I needed to do that because I did not have 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: the support. 119 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: It always felt like I was like last, like so much. 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: So I wanted to make a point to my family 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: that I was just going to wear the same set, 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: the same track suits, set up clothing every day to school. 123 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: And honestly, I think that was the biggest lesson for 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: everyone and it got their attention. For one, my grandpa 125 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: was sick and tired of watching watching the same glothes 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: over and over. Yeah, because I remember my grandparents. I 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: was before school, and then the school called my parents 128 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: and said, hey, Farah's been wearing like the same clothes 129 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: for like eight days. 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: What's going on? 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: And then like my friends were like, Sarah, like why 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: do you keep wearing the same clothes every day? And 133 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: I just was like this person who was like I 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: don't care about footing in acting full appealing to people. 135 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I was very much like you always knew who you were, Yeah, 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to make points to my family 137 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: who seemed to be like so disconnected from their kids. 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: And really, once I became so famous. 139 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: At sixteen, other children that were like extended on my 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: sister's my half sister's side, came into my job and 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: told me more about my mom's history with their father. 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: And I didn't even know that my I didn't know that. 143 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: That was my sister's father, and so there was this 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: whole thing of WHOA. I was really blindsided growing up 145 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: and I was never getting the full story. 146 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: And I think I see that I give the full story. 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: With my daughter, you know what. And I think that's why. 148 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Because you've been so open and everything. Like you just said, 149 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the things that you felt were missing in your childhood, 150 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: you're doing it with your own child. And I love 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: that you're advocating and that you're bringing awareness that I 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: feel like that's what it's all about. You. You turned 153 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: something to me, A baby's a blessing, And I'm like, 154 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, maybe you weren't ready. I think we're 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: never going to be fully ready to have children, but 156 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: you made it. You made it like happen, and that's admirable. 157 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: My mom was fifteen, but she she had that hustle 158 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and you have that same hustle, you know, And I 159 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: think that's awesome. 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go for your mom. 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: I've also wanted to say, this is what's really crazy, 162 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: Like what you're saying is like, I don't think we're 163 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: all ever really fully ready. 164 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's why I look at it as 165 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: like and I. 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: Know that because no matter what age, people are really 167 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: really truly trying to figure out their health, their balance, 168 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: reidentify with this new identity of themselves. And that is 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: a human cycle of parenting. If you actually watch teen Mom, 170 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: you would be highly more prepared at whatever age, any 171 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: age that you have your child because you see the good, 172 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: the bad, that health concerns, the health risks, all of 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: these variants, and you can really overcome hurdles. So if 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: you don't like reading books about parenting, you can certainly 175 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: watch a lot of TV shows on parenting. 176 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's real, you know, it's and it shows 177 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: everything that's wrang you know, literally and yeah, yes, and 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: I love that. That's how I learned. I'm like, I'm like, 179 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: I need you to tell me the truth, you know, 180 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: because I've been through this is completely different. But like 181 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, no one ever told me how hard IVF is. 182 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, It's like it puts you through a lot. 183 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: I want people to really talk about it. So I 184 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: see your point, and I know you've also been through 185 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot. You also educate on sex trauma. Yeah, can 186 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about that. 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So after my. 188 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: Celebrity sex tape, I gotta just quote it like that, 189 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: like a private tape that ended up being a public 190 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: I guess, a public spectacle that was sensationalized of my 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: sex life, but it actually chose It taught me to 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: have more agency over my consent number one, agency over myself, 193 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: but also making sure and changing the environment in which 194 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: I hang out with people or have any like influence 195 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: or peer pressures. So I think from having that spectacle 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: of my intimacy life in a very dark time of 197 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: my life, just to put it into perspective for everyone. 198 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: At that time of my life, I was much younger. 199 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: I didn't sound like this, didn't have the words or 200 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: the therapy, and I couldnot put into. 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: Words what I was experiencing. 202 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: I was in like a cycle of bereavement because of 203 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: the depression, because of the anxiety disorder, and I also 204 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: didn't know my own disability at the time. So shout 205 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: out to everybody who's neurodivergent and no one helps you 206 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: but traumatizes you. So I did not know that with 207 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: my disability, which is ADHD. I so ADHD with an 208 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: attentive disorder. And when you have a trauma and a 209 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: loss that is not fully grieved on top of other 210 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: people abusing you or saying hey, I'm this way with you, 211 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: but then they go, it's like a friend that's behind 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: your back, right, And I think like people saw that 213 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: in sixteen and pregnant with my girlfriend saying like, oh, 214 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: she's pregnant, and I didn't tell her that that was 215 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: okay to say to anyone, and a cheerleading team, and 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: then I got kicked off the cheerleading team. 217 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: And then I have someone who. 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Went a mail that went the next day and just 219 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: had his own press conference without my consent, trying to 220 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,479 Speaker 2: ruin my career all this other stuff. 221 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: With the sex tape. 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: So I think what I'm saying is overall, with sex 223 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: trauma therapy, I highly recommend it. Many women never can 224 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: get to a tool set and a mindset to see 225 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: clearly that I don't need to fully blame myself for 226 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: what I put myself into. I need to just say, hey, 227 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: this is where I screwed up, but this is where 228 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: these other people screwed up. And I think most of 229 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: the time, women in general, and or men if they're 230 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: in the same position, are always blaming themselves for the 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: entirety of other toxic, abusive people's situations. And I used 232 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: to do that with my mom. I used to do 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: that with many other people who are abusive to me. 234 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: And I think when I got to sex trauma therapy, 235 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: it started working on my perspectives and my knowledge of saying, 236 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: why are you okay with all this abuse that's in 237 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: society that you're around, Why are you allowing it? And 238 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: I think that's when I, like, I just started cutting 239 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: people out of my life and them off, like no notice. 240 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel now that you have forgiven all of 241 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: these people that put you in these situations? How do 242 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: you feel about that? Because I'm really big on forgiveness, 243 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: so I know that forgetting is one thing, you know, 244 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: but forgiveness, do you feel like you've let that go 245 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: and you've learned what you needed to learn? 246 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 247 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: So I believe in you can't expect unwell people to 248 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: be well, and that's also what they's at the trauma center. 249 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: You cannot look at an unwell person anymore, whether that's 250 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: your friend, family, or whoever, and you just need to 251 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: say they're unwell. They're unwell people. I was fantasizing life. 252 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: I thought you could be well, but it is that's 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: on me. I need to put some new eyeballs on 254 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: and I'm going to stop fantasizing life. I also believe 255 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: like when people say forgiveness, right, we all have forgiveness, 256 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: we all want to forgive. But the biggest thing that 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: I needed to work on was resent inventory. That has 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: been the organization and the clarity for me to just 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: literally face anything and everything that I deal with in 260 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: that day and I. 261 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: Let my resentments go. 262 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: People always put forgiveness on a pedestal, and that's totally fine. 263 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: That's totally fine. I used to do the same thing. 264 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: Oh I forgive, I forget, well, then you let the 265 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: creepers creep back in. 266 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, you can expect on well to be well. 267 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to do my resentment inventory. 268 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to sleep like I've never slept before because 269 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: of this, and I know exactly what I'm doing, and 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: I journal and I move on, so I don't keep 271 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: track of everybody who hates me. I definitely don't keep 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: track of anybody who I disagree with. I'm actually pretty fearless, 273 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: and I think once you live your life by the 274 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: twelve step principles, it. 275 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: Is not just about alcoholism, if anyone's confused. 276 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: It is about living your life as close to your 277 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: faith as fearlessly as possible. And when I walked in 278 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: to the Intensive Trauma Healing Center, I saw on my 279 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: on the nightstand there a fear inventory sheet of all 280 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: the fears that we have, and our job coming into 281 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: there was to overcome all of those fears by having organization. 282 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: And clarity with it. And I committed myself to that. 283 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: So if anyone else could share that with you, it 284 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: will change your life forever. 285 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, this is this is great. This is awesome. 286 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: I love that you're sharing all of this because there 287 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: are things here that even I wasn't even aware about. 288 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. 289 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 290 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: If you had the chance, if you could do it 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: all over again, do you think that you would go 292 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: on succeed and pregnant again. 293 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: If I Yeah, I definitely would. 294 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 295 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: If I would have known that my daughter's father was 296 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: going to die, and tragically. I definitely probably would have 297 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: signed up sooner for the show, knowing like I have 298 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: no way of making money. No, like you know, that 299 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: was an act of God. I think this show in 300 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: the end, even if I didn't like the producers, they 301 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: didn't care about me. I was just like used and 302 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: abused for storylines. 303 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: I have to say thank you God for. 304 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Giving me an endless TV show, income stream and endless opportunities. 305 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: But I will say I would sign up again for 306 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: it anyways, even if he were alive or not alive, 307 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: because the gift that I have gotten from television is 308 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: having I guess friends but strangers stranger friends. Wherever I 309 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: go in this universe, whether I'm crossing the border of Mexico, 310 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm in Amsterdam, I'm over there in Dubai, everybody recognizes us. 311 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: And I have to. 312 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Say that is love, Like wow, I went through torture 313 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: to really actually have a lifetime of love and be 314 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: closed sir and opened my eyes to diversity and culture. 315 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: And I think if anything, being a closed. 316 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Minded I don't know, I felt like abused Metal of America, 317 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Iowa girl. I think that is the biggest gift of life. 318 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: And so I'm really, I'm really grateful to God. 319 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: And what about OnlyFans? I know you're on only fans. 320 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: I've I've talked to my husband about it, and you know, 321 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, dude, there's you can make a lot 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: of money. Is this true that you can make a 323 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of money on only fans? 324 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: I've get a lot. I mean, I can only answer 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: for me. I have made a lot of money. 326 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: How long have you been on OnlyFans? 327 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: So I've had an OnlyFans for six years, almost going 328 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: on seven years. 329 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: And I think that was just kind of like my saving. 330 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: Grace as I'm getting my college degrees done, as I 331 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: was wrongfully fired from teen Mom, and I was just 332 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: like so tired of negativity and I like love that 333 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: I could control a page and it's either you're all positive, 334 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: you're showing some self love to me, because I really 335 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: needed self love back in the day. But now I 336 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: know self love comes from within. And I've had you know, 337 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: just like beautiful relationships of like knowing and meeting people 338 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: and you know, like men improving their marriages, losing weight. 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: And I think, like I never would have guessed again, 340 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: it's such a gift, like I never would have guessed 341 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: I would have played a part in anyone's life to 342 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: that degree, and so I'm just happy if I can 343 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: help people in a positive way. 344 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: And you talked about the sex tape earlier, and I 345 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: know that A and E's Secrets of Celebrity Sex Tapes 346 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: came out. How how was that like to revisit that 347 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: moment in your life. 348 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody asked me about so many moments 349 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: around that, and they never kind of really. 350 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: Get into the point. 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: And I think, like, like I loved us talking in 352 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: the beginning, because that's that's really the point. 353 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: That's really like opening eyes and. 354 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: Not letting other people, you know, kind of take advantage 355 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: or have not content culture with your own life. But 356 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: I think being a part of Secrets of Celebrity Sex 357 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: Tapes was needed. I don't know if anyone else got 358 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: to see other episodes, but it almost like broke my heart. 359 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: I had no idea Colin Ferrell had a sex tape, 360 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: but Colin Ferrell had a sex tape situation, and it 361 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: just basically shows like that girl disappear off the face 362 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: of the earth, and like he is over here continually 363 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: doing movies, movies, movies, and there was another male actor 364 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: who till this day is doing movie or shows and movies. 365 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: But I just can't find where these women are. 366 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: And I think when I'm watching my episode of Secrets 367 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: of Celebrity sex Tapes, I feel like I am so 368 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: proud of myself because I'm like, no, I'm not letting 369 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: the toxic male beast overcome me and tell me I'm 370 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: not going to have a career anymore. 371 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: Right back to television. 372 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: I continued on with my career and when I take breaks, 373 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: it's my taking breaks because about the trauma I've had. 374 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: And in a healthy way. But I enjoyed seeing it. 375 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: I do love that doctor Jen was in there. She 376 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: helped me do my first sex trauma work actually. 377 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 3: And had me continue on with that. 378 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: So I always love her perspective, her just like overarching, 379 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: like looking at it, I think she was the most compassionate, 380 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: most like empathizing, so that way other people know, like 381 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: you need to. 382 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: Actually like see the full picture. 383 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: To connect and empathize with somebody else's shoes up they're 384 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: rocking in for you to actually know what's going on. 385 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: Because I think that's why people send stationalize, missed the 386 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: whole point and then just to I don't know, act blindly, 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: and I think I used to be like that too, 388 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: so I understand. But seeing things for what they are 389 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: is a really nice and it makes my life easier. 390 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: M hm for sure. And you were able to set 391 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: the story because you know, it was your experience and 392 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: how it happened and not what people the stories they 393 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: may make up in their mind. So I thought I 394 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: thought it was it was great that you were able 395 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to say, hey, this is how it happened. And you're 396 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: you're also helping other people, you know, like you said, 397 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: both men and women, because usually for the most part, 398 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: people think it's women, but also it happens to men 399 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: as well. 400 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Yes it does. 401 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So Tarah, tell us now what you have going on. 402 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I know how you're doing a whole lot. I know. 403 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Are you still on tour with comedy, which that's something 404 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: that I think is amazing that you're doing. So tell 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: me a little bit about that about your comedy career. 406 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: Yes, So comedy career has been a little affected by 407 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: the I guess educational abuse that I've been under. Sadly, 408 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: I worked so hard to just like be able to 409 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: get ready to go on a comedy tour, and then 410 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: my school started holding me back for this whole year 411 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: and it got horrifically worse and worse, so comedy got 412 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: put on hold. And I don't think there's ever a 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: rush to comedy, for one, but I think I did. 414 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: I did my job in. 415 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: Doing the comedy when I did it, because it helped 416 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: other women know how to use their voice, know how 417 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: to talk about really tough subjects and make light of 418 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: it and show like healing. So either way, comedy is 419 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: still going to go. The diary of a team mom 420 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: is always it's always working, and after I get through 421 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: some hurdles, I am so excited to just kind of 422 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: actually more focus on a comedy TV special. I am 423 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: such a TV personality that I will have to go 424 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: just do my own comedy TV specials, just like I 425 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: do with every other TV show, like with any or 426 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: anyone else that I work with, And that is just 427 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: a fair at Abraham and Comedy. 428 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: That is this team MoMA. 429 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: So I can't wait to have that freedom, get everyone together, 430 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: having a huge, amazing night with people and really just 431 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: take it up a notch. 432 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, like Angelina. 433 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: From Jersey Shore, she was just like girl me you 434 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 2: seeing you do that was like, I could use my voice. 435 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: I can do this, and I think that is all 436 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: I really want people to know, is your voice. Whether 437 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: you're a girl, guy, boy, anything you are, your voice 438 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: actually truly matters. Your perspective matters, So go ahead and 439 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: share it. But a lot of people can't handle moms 440 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: in comedy because we're doing dark comedy. 441 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: They get a little skined. 442 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: I love dark comedy. I love it. I love it, 443 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's great because I feel like comedy 444 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: is therapeutic, like I yeah, and I think that's probably 445 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: why you you love it so much, and I think 446 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: it's yeah, bring light, bring some funniness back to the world, guys. 447 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: We need it now more than ever. So I can't wait. 448 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: I think I see that for you, a show would 449 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: be great. Oh I can't wait. I'll be watching maybe 450 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you stop by, you stop by? Absolutely yeah I will. 451 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: And Sarah, thank you, thank you for coming on. I 452 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: loved the conversation. I know you're at a festival. I 453 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: think it's super cool that you're like, hold on, I'm 454 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: going to go do this. So thank you. That's very 455 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: professional of you, so I appreciate it. Is there anything 456 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: else that you would like to add anything that I 457 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: didn't ask you, anything that you want to leave people here? 458 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, So any something fun that I'm looking forward to. 459 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 2: For one, I'm writing a new memoir, so after my 460 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: teenage dream ended, I now get to write about this 461 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: huge life that I've lived, not just the very beginning 462 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: with everyone, and I think I can't wait to do 463 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: that second memoir. Also, Sophia has started to write her 464 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: own first book, which like melts my heart and I think, 465 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: like that is overdue, Like we've got to see Honey 466 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: Booboo kind. 467 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: Of do a biopick, So I would love to see 468 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Sophia do. 469 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Her own biopick, do her own book, and really like 470 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: because everyone was just kind of giving, like a newborn baby, 471 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: their voice and again not really hearing it. So it's 472 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: just time to check in with everyone and we cannot wait. 473 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: It's great. I tell Sophia I'm very proud of her. 474 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. So thank you, Sarah. Enjoy the festival 475 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see pictures on Instagram. 476 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go wild. She just crowded served last night, 477 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: so it was, oh my. 478 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: Gosh, it's awesome guys. 479 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much. 480 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: I will see you well. Guys. That was Sarah. She 481 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: went back to the festival and I hope you guys 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation. It was. It was awesome, very interesting. 483 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: I learned quite a bit and I hope you guys 484 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: did too. And yeah, I will catch you on the 485 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: next episode of your favorite podcast. 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