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Speaker 1: twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number forty one. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break. We're live from the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we got a
Speaker 1: lot we're gonna hit today, Nick, give me a forty one.
Speaker 1: Get this thing start. There's there's the right answer, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a show answer, and then there's Kareem Laramore Stop.
Speaker 1: It's not laramoream. Remember I mean the answers Charlie Waters,
Speaker 1: but Terence Newman was damn good. I can just feel
Speaker 1: Beams anger through it. I mean, Charlie Waters was not
Speaker 1: a groomsman in Beam's wedding, So I get it. Terence Newman,
Speaker 1: who was a great football player for a long time,
Speaker 1: fifteen years, long time. Yeah, Kareem Laramore. Man, that was
Speaker 1: did he just like that? Was that one of your
Speaker 1: just favorite guys or something? Yeah? Yeah, he actually was,
Speaker 1: because you know, my school, um is a Division two
Speaker 1: school Midwestern State, and they he played Division two football
Speaker 1: against him, West Trucks's A and M, and he was like,
Speaker 1: he was an athletic dude. I mean all you have
Speaker 1: to watch this. There's a preseason game against the Saints
Speaker 1: where he just they just rid a little one yard
Speaker 1: out route to the goal line and he said, no, thanks,
Speaker 1: ninety nine to the house he had. He just couldn't
Speaker 1: get his life going right then and all that, but
Speaker 1: definitely that talent. Yeah. Did he play for the Desperado
Speaker 1: He did. Desperados covering him there, that's him. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: he was. He was definitely an athlete, just a Kareem Larmore.
Speaker 1: Pat Dennis remember him? Yeah, I do. Forty one? Yeah
Speaker 1: what about now? The whole time you've been talking, I've
Speaker 1: just been like, I don't think there's been a forty
Speaker 1: one of note in the time that I've covered the team.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's been one period, not
Speaker 1: even like a practice squad. Go oh now I feel bad.
Speaker 1: Keith Smith my guy. He wore forty one days. Hey,
Speaker 1: time flies when you're having fun. I love I love
Speaker 1: Keith last year, which did you see it? To my point,
Speaker 1: and he played two snaps last year. I remember so
Speaker 1: your consternation because you didn't like the fact that they
Speaker 1: weren't at least when I when I when they first
Speaker 1: got we got into the locker room at the stadium,
Speaker 1: at the new AT and T Stadium at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, they like had they had all the players
Speaker 1: up there and they said Charles Waters. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this doesn't work. Like I had to like finally get
Speaker 1: somebody to get someone, and they finally like redid it
Speaker 1: up in the press in the you know, in the
Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, it said like it's just said Charles Water.
Speaker 1: So I was like this, this isn't working. Like Charlie, Charlie,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you shouts out because a good dude beef.
Speaker 1: Yeah sorry sorry, he's still going, like yeah, still going.
Speaker 1: Started playing fullback at in Atlanta College college safety life.
Speaker 1: I just on and off the price. Let me say
Speaker 1: something about Terrence Newman. You know, the fear about him
Speaker 1: was he's twenty five years old, like he's an old player, like,
Speaker 1: should we draft them? He played fifteen years? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's okay, he's okay. I remember it wasn't a
Speaker 1: guy that was injured a lot. He told me one time.
Speaker 1: I remember him saying, you know, everyone said all that, Well,
Speaker 1: in ten years, I'll be thirty five and I'll still
Speaker 1: be a better athlete than all of these people. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I probably will, and he was, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brought us used to every anytime on any episode of
Speaker 1: the Draft Show, when a guy's age comes up, he's like,
Speaker 1: and he can never just say the name. He's like,
Speaker 1: whyon't you tell that to that number twenty three up
Speaker 1: in Minnesota who's still starting games. Yeah, yes, I heard
Speaker 1: a lot about that about number forty one played about
Speaker 1: twelve years here. Now maybe we should shut up about
Speaker 1: the uh anyway, forty one, which like about us? All right,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's talk a little bit about injuries. Zero
Speaker 1: Lots of guys that are on this injury report and
Speaker 1: some that are kind of interesting. Demante CAZy, he has
Speaker 1: a hip injury, did not practice yesterday. What do we
Speaker 1: know about him and his potential status for Sunday? He
Speaker 1: was feeling it Monday Uh, he was still feeling it
Speaker 1: Wednesday when practice was starting to get ramped up. They
Speaker 1: were like, no, don't do that. Um, McCarthy thinks he's
Speaker 1: gonna rehab today, classic something. Keep an eye on. He's
Speaker 1: a vet player. He probably can't will be. I mean
Speaker 1: if he feels right, I'm sure he can go without
Speaker 1: a lot of practice. It's just something to watch. Tag
Speaker 1: you're in man, Yeah, Donovan Wilson or Well, well is it?
Speaker 1: I think it's probably more Malie Hooker. Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying here's another Yeah, Donovan is practicing. That
Speaker 1: seems like a good sign. Yeah, it's true. I meant
Speaker 1: from a Rosters day, Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: Donovan was limited yesterday. What are you thinking that there's
Speaker 1: a good chance he can play this weekend? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to see YEA, at some point, when you've
Speaker 1: been gone for so long, you got to get back
Speaker 1: to full. I mean, you can't just be limited. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not one of those things where you don't practice
Speaker 1: all weekend then you just jump out. He's been out.
Speaker 1: Is not the place to go full for the first time.
Speaker 1: He's been out for a month. I want to. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he upgrades to full today, then I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to say like, yeah, okay, But if he's they might
Speaker 1: just be saying, all right, get some reps and you'll
Speaker 1: get acclimated and then we'll have the bye week and
Speaker 1: then you can go full after the bye week. So
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll have to see. Yep. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs. He has an ankle injury, did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: What do we think at It's not thought to be
Speaker 1: significant per Mike McCarthy. He dinged it in the game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna try to He's gonna try to go limited today.
Speaker 1: That man, I think that's a classic case of like,
Speaker 1: let's be smart with our stars. And I think he'll play.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Zeke Elliott Ribbs. Yes, yeah, Zeke's gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he was limited yesterday. On top of that, he
Speaker 1: was this week. It was interesting you listen to Jerry
Speaker 1: talking about that on the fan and you could tell
Speaker 1: that he wasn't really happy with the fact that there
Speaker 1: was something on the field that his player could land on.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, the league actually takes a
Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about what is available of what
Speaker 1: is on the field that players can run into, and
Speaker 1: the fact that this was there, like there's a that's
Speaker 1: a problem, you know, So I don't see what this goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems I mean I I yeah, there's a camera
Speaker 1: in it, Like I said, I assume it's there, so
Speaker 1: you can see if a guy got a first down
Speaker 1: or not. But but it's not consistent. You don't always
Speaker 1: see that in all the games. No, you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe is it just the game of the week,
Speaker 1: the Fox game, you know what I mean, Like, it's
Speaker 1: not in every you don't see that on every first
Speaker 1: down marker. I don't think you do. No, not that
Speaker 1: I'm aware of. So I mean, you you love having it,
Speaker 1: you know, late in the game you need you need
Speaker 1: to you know, you need to know if he got
Speaker 1: the ball there. I mean think about the game. Was
Speaker 1: it seventeen where they had to put a card to
Speaker 1: see if he's there? Yeah, you know that Raiders game?
Speaker 1: Remember that? I mean, like the most surreal moment ever
Speaker 1: that that was. That was unbelieving, which I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know who he thinks that, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't worry where he finally came to conclusion, oh, where's
Speaker 1: my car. It's just further proof of how stupid this
Speaker 1: whole thing is. And again, I mean Mike McCarthy. If
Speaker 1: I really know anything about him, it's how much he
Speaker 1: loves GPS. He talks about it all the time. They
Speaker 1: can see how many steps you take in a given
Speaker 1: day and how much they need to alter your workload
Speaker 1: because of it. We can chip the damn ball and
Speaker 1: see like, oh, did the ball reached the edge of
Speaker 1: the thirty eight yard line. That's a first down and
Speaker 1: should be known instantaneous. We can just we could get
Speaker 1: rid of like thirty percent of the clutter on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: which should we do that for touchdowns? So just like hockey,
Speaker 1: like if he just gets in, just I would love
Speaker 1: that's absolutely right, Like you should know that we have it.
Speaker 1: And then we're all having arguments about whether the forward
Speaker 1: progress was there or if he got thrown back, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, those are out of the horn, went off town.
Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, I love it all right, So let's
Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna take our first break a little
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Speaker 1: we come back. We'll be joined by Bucky Brooks of
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Speaker 1: to the second segment of The Break, live from the
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Speaker 1: now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show today. Let's first start off with the fact
Speaker 1: that this new England defense they're they're kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: When you look at the numbers. They're fifth right now
Speaker 1: in total defense, they're fifth and points allowed with only
Speaker 1: giving up ninety two over five games. What's the strength
Speaker 1: of this defense? It's a total defense. In the scheme,
Speaker 1: they do a great job of playing team defense. It's
Speaker 1: not a collection of stars, but the players fit the
Speaker 1: scheme and the coaches do a really good job of
Speaker 1: conveying to them how they want to play each and
Speaker 1: every week. Some games it's the game where they don't
Speaker 1: mind the team going from twenty to twenties, and they
Speaker 1: focus on being great in the red zone. Other games
Speaker 1: just about heating up the quarterbacks. Then they're taking boys turnovers.
Speaker 1: This is just a very sound defense that doesn't beat themselves,
Speaker 1: and so it takes a very patient and deliberate offensive
Speaker 1: effort to really light them up on the scoreboard. Bucky,
Speaker 1: Do the Pats have the guts to play man up
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys the way that they have? I think
Speaker 1: I read that they've been playing man coverage more than
Speaker 1: anybody in the league so far. Are they equipped to
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, especially Gilmour's obviously not there anymore.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, are are they equipped to do that
Speaker 1: to this offense? Yeah, because this is what they do.
Speaker 1: They line up and played man to man more than
Speaker 1: anybody else. They're not afraid they play cover one. They
Speaker 1: vary who they put in the whole, meaning the cutter
Speaker 1: on crossing, rousing those things. But they're going to play
Speaker 1: a lot of man to man because that's what they do.
Speaker 1: It's the best coverage to play in National Football League
Speaker 1: because it allows you to put an extra defender in
Speaker 1: the box. You have tight coverage on everybody down the field.
Speaker 1: And this is what they believe in. So No, I
Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to worry about who Dallas
Speaker 1: has on the other side. They're gonna play man to man. Now,
Speaker 1: what they will do is they will vary what they
Speaker 1: call their brackets. Sometimes they may take the double team
Speaker 1: and put it on Amari Cooper. Other times they may
Speaker 1: put it on CD Lamb And you may never get
Speaker 1: a feel for who is being double team. But they're
Speaker 1: gonna play some form of man to man because it's
Speaker 1: the basis of their defense. And with all this coverage,
Speaker 1: is Dalton Schultz just gonna go to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: just because he's just got all that? I mean, no
Speaker 1: one's gonna ever just do a game plan for him
Speaker 1: and he just reaps all the benefits. I mean, do
Speaker 1: you think that's kind of where he's headed. I mean,
Speaker 1: he may be, But if you're Bill Belichick, that's what
Speaker 1: you want to do. The Patriots philosophy is to make
Speaker 1: you play left handed. And if Dalton shots can go
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty receiving yards, what Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: could do is walk across the field and you're safe.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's hand. If the Dallas Cowboys win, because they
Speaker 1: played the way that the Patriots wanted them to play,
Speaker 1: and so what they typically do is they're going to
Speaker 1: take away your first option, your second option, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna make you beat you with the third option. And
Speaker 1: if that third option is good enough, they just come
Speaker 1: to chart it up and say it's your debt. On
Speaker 1: that note, that's been notoriously how they've played defense and
Speaker 1: been successful doing it. If you were advising him, what
Speaker 1: would you say, is the one or two people tactics
Speaker 1: whatever that you think you have to try to take
Speaker 1: away and force Dallas to beat you without. Well, one
Speaker 1: thing I want to do is I want to take
Speaker 1: away the explosive passing game this week because the quickest
Speaker 1: way for Dallas but points up is to air it out.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to Mary Cooper and Cede Lamb
Speaker 1: to go crazy in the passing game. If Ezekiel Elliot
Speaker 1: and Tony Poll are running, it's a slow burn. And
Speaker 1: I know that if they run it all the way
Speaker 1: down to the twenty, well, now I can tighten up
Speaker 1: and focus on that. So I am willing to concede
Speaker 1: the running game, but I'm taking away the passeng yards.
Speaker 1: I'm not letting the Cowboys get excited by seeing big
Speaker 1: players go over the top of the defense. I believe
Speaker 1: that's what the pages to do, because typically when they
Speaker 1: look at a team that's balanced like Dallas, they'll say, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll let them have the running yards because it's harder
Speaker 1: to score a ton of points when you're running the football.
Speaker 1: Can you do that effectively when you're running a cover one,
Speaker 1: especially in situations where that means like if they're moving
Speaker 1: the bracket that I mean, somebody's gonna be in one
Speaker 1: on one coverage, and obviously if Dallas is one on
Speaker 1: one coverage on the outside, they're probably gonna take some shots.
Speaker 1: Is that there is their strategy doesn't work with their scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually it does work with the scheme because here's what
Speaker 1: they'll do. They will take the best corner and put
Speaker 1: on the second best player. So let's say they deemed
Speaker 1: a Mark Coup to be in the number one and
Speaker 1: Cdee Lamb is number two. They may say JC Jackson
Speaker 1: say hey, you go take Ceedee Lamb will double team
Speaker 1: Ormari Cooper. So now we're going to force you to
Speaker 1: throw the Don Schotz or Blake Jordan because we got
Speaker 1: a double team on your number one our best corner
Speaker 1: should be better than your second best receiver. And now
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to play on the inside guys to
Speaker 1: find the matchup to win. And that'll be an interesting
Speaker 1: matchup because I think Calid's actually have two number one
Speaker 1: caliber wide receivers. That'll be interesting to see how that
Speaker 1: matches up. But day Buck, I know you know a
Speaker 1: lot of the talker and rightfully so. He's a good player.
Speaker 1: Is on Matthew Judon over there, but I'm curious, especially
Speaker 1: because he took a year off. How's Dante high Tower look?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's one of the most underrated
Speaker 1: defenders in the league over the last decade. Does he
Speaker 1: still look like that guy? I mean, he's a solid player.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him a blue chip player, a high
Speaker 1: end top ten talent at the position, but what he
Speaker 1: is is he's a rugged, veteran player. But the high
Speaker 1: I Q he and cal Van Nois do a good
Speaker 1: job of doing. If this was hockey, I would say
Speaker 1: they're the gooms, right, They're the guys to kind of
Speaker 1: deliver the bit kids. They're the guys to kind of
Speaker 1: do the dirty work that needs to be done. Matt
Speaker 1: U John Doe is the guy, and then josh Ucha
Speaker 1: is the one that is coming on like game busses,
Speaker 1: giving them a little boost off the edge. Draft Show Baby,
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverine. Let's go one more question for you before
Speaker 1: we before we let you go, are you content with
Speaker 1: what Beyondish is doing at center or do you think
Speaker 1: that we will see McGovern get some opportunities there at
Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, McGovern has to get some opportunities because
Speaker 1: right now, Beyondest is the weak link. And as you
Speaker 1: get down to it and you're building your team to
Speaker 1: get ready for a playoff run, everyone knows that Beyondish
Speaker 1: is the fish. He's the guy that you attack on
Speaker 1: the offensive line because he's having a tough time and
Speaker 1: a surprising that a kid from Wisconsin who exhales at
Speaker 1: run blocking is having such a tough time in both areas,
Speaker 1: but he is, and so at some point his performance
Speaker 1: is going to get him a spot on the bench.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time if he doesn't pick
Speaker 1: it up. Is this a week where the Patriots have
Speaker 1: someone there in the middle that could exploit be Honish?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. I mean, they're guys, they don't have like
Speaker 1: Evince Willford like they used to have that they would
Speaker 1: put right over top of the head in the center
Speaker 1: and he would beat them up. So they don't they
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have that. But if you think about this
Speaker 1: team long term, because we're be going to hear the conversation,
Speaker 1: right Amari Cooper and those guys talking about the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with the teams that you have to deal with
Speaker 1: are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the LA Rams, and some
Speaker 1: of those teams that have dominant people on the inside.
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to have an answer because they're
Speaker 1: gonna put their best player over top of the center
Speaker 1: and beat them up, and it disrupts everything that you
Speaker 1: want to do in the run game and in the
Speaker 1: past game. All right, give us a prediction. What do
Speaker 1: you think is gonna happen on Sunday? Well, man, I'm
Speaker 1: banking on the Cowboys being mature enough to go here
Speaker 1: and hand their business. They're the favorite, and the thing
Speaker 1: is they have to work through the mystique of the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The Patriots aren't a great team, but if you don't
Speaker 1: play well, they're good enough to beat you. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys understand what's at stake. I think they find
Speaker 1: a way to get it done. All right, Bucky Man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We'll see you next week. Actually it'll
Speaker 1: be the bye week, so actually we'll see the week
Speaker 1: after that at when the Cowboys start getting ready for
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. We're gonna take our final break and
Speaker 1: we come back. We got some questions for these guys.
Speaker 1: We've got some fan questions that I pulled from you
Speaker 1: guys off Twitter lasts. Ask these guys some of those
Speaker 1: questions when we do. We'll do that when we come
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Speaker 1: if they make it too. If they decided to go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this year, it's just the decision now, yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm not traveling this year, So if that happens,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be kind of not kind of pretty pretty
Speaker 1: upset because I've been through a lot of suffering since
Speaker 1: I started this job. So they better. I mean, we're back, baby,
Speaker 1: We're back. It's always something with this team, huh to
Speaker 1: me emotionally, you know, it's like I can never be
Speaker 1: fully happy, like on hope right now. But then it's
Speaker 1: like I'll be kind of mad too, you know. It's
Speaker 1: mixed feelings, but I'm excited to be back. Good. We're
Speaker 1: happy to have you back. And I'm sure you've got
Speaker 1: so many, so many opinions that you've been bottling up
Speaker 1: over the last few months while you've been away. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's been pretty relaxing feeling wise. You know why, because
Speaker 1: I watched the game, so I don't keep up. Really,
Speaker 1: I haven't had time to keep up with everything that
Speaker 1: happens on the day too. But those who don't know,
Speaker 1: I ever had a baby, so she's been busy. She's
Speaker 1: been a little busy. Yeah, go ahead. So I don't
Speaker 1: keep up what happens on the daily basis during the week,
Speaker 1: which is why I feel like, to me in years past,
Speaker 1: that's when I get pissed because we watched them every day.
Speaker 1: We were very connected and plugged in. So I guess
Speaker 1: I've been like a casual fan that just turns on
Speaker 1: the TV young game days, watches it here, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, Wow, they're doing good, you know. But
Speaker 1: then I feel like now that once I'm back here,
Speaker 1: kind of getting back in the two things and getting
Speaker 1: emotionally attached I'll probably be getting up said here and there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be Idish was making me kind of upset last game,
Speaker 1: but well, the good thing. It'll be good to see
Speaker 1: who we've been he's been making us. I don't want
Speaker 1: to upset, but I mean it's been an uneasy position
Speaker 1: that we've talked about for months now. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was gonna say something that I always remember. Nick said
Speaker 1: it a while back, how important the center is, and
Speaker 1: that snap to me. I never really thought of it,
Speaker 1: but when we were talking about okay, a rookie guy
Speaker 1: coming in and then versus having an actual veteran and
Speaker 1: you were saying with Andy and Andy he remember he
Speaker 1: made some comment about it, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because I never thought about it. But now
Speaker 1: we're actually seeing it. Yeah, I mean it's I don't
Speaker 1: know if McGovern you don't know if it'll be any better. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but or Connor Williams, like they're they don't have a
Speaker 1: real good option right now. I mean it's kind of
Speaker 1: holding them hostage. To use Bill Parcel's old term, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if only they had done something every time we have
Speaker 1: this stuff, this topic, That's what Dave ends up is like,
Speaker 1: if only they would have foreseen this problem as a
Speaker 1: problem and taking done something about it. But what else
Speaker 1: is there to say? It's it's it's almost like the
Speaker 1: time but three years ago, when they're like, we don't
Speaker 1: need a number one receiver, fine with these guys right here,
Speaker 1: hold on, let's trade for Mark Cooper, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of what this feels like. I don't think the
Speaker 1: wheels are falling off if they're not gonna wake up
Speaker 1: from my flight home from New England like Frank Rack,
Speaker 1: now I should. Yeah, Dave's like, what's going on? It
Speaker 1: was interesting to me when they were earlier this week
Speaker 1: when Jerry had his call with the fan uh here locally,
Speaker 1: he actually was asked about the snaps and he was
Speaker 1: he admitted like, that's it's a bit of a problem,
Speaker 1: which was kind of a shock to me because they
Speaker 1: don't always coaches Jerry whoever, don't always just go out
Speaker 1: and talk about problems with a player something that's specifically
Speaker 1: a player. But I was kind of shocked to hear that.
Speaker 1: And so if he's says that, and certainly there's something,
Speaker 1: I mean we have to think about, like and maybe
Speaker 1: they're looking at this and saying what are our options here,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean everyone remembers, Oh remember the time
Speaker 1: Romo the ball went over his head and he kicked
Speaker 1: it and he ganged back and he ran and got
Speaker 1: a four yard first sound yeah against the Rams play.
Speaker 1: I mean Andre Gerard's the five time pro bowler, was
Speaker 1: the one that airmailed it over his head. I mean,
Speaker 1: like like, and he had some misues sometimes with with
Speaker 1: you know, but he was also pretty good at blocking
Speaker 1: and he got he got that under control. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it mean, it happens, it just can't happen on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. Yeah, And I do think that Duke made
Speaker 1: some really good points. Duke manny Weather, who we had
Speaker 1: on earlier this week. I think he made some really
Speaker 1: good points about what you have to consider and I
Speaker 1: saw these on Twitter. He was talking about a center
Speaker 1: and what all they have to do, and it is
Speaker 1: a tough job. It absolutely is a tough job. And
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that hasn't even had a
Speaker 1: full season yet in the NFL as a starter. So
Speaker 1: I think when you when you consider from that standpoint, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got some learning to do. There are some things
Speaker 1: that he's not great at. Uh, there's some things he's
Speaker 1: going to have to develop at and that's where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to kind of find their balance. If you
Speaker 1: look at Steel last year, most of us thought he
Speaker 1: can't play. They continue to develop him. This year, they've
Speaker 1: seen the benefits of that, so maybe this is one
Speaker 1: of the situations they just have to keep developing him.
Speaker 1: Hindsight's twenty twenty and you, I mean, you can't put
Speaker 1: that toothpaste back in the tube anyway. But that does
Speaker 1: make it curious. We've talked about it. Tyler struggled with
Speaker 1: the shotgun snaps last year. That's part of the reason
Speaker 1: why Joe Looney was put in there. But it does
Speaker 1: make you one And that's the balance between, Like there's
Speaker 1: people that say you need to be tanking for a
Speaker 1: draft pick. You can't do that, but you can keep
Speaker 1: an eye on the future too, And I want like
Speaker 1: they knew they had a chance to win the division
Speaker 1: last year, and I'm sure that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: why Joe played. But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 1: maybe we should be making this work with the young guy,
Speaker 1: knowing that he's the future and its matter for him.
Speaker 1: If we have some bad snaps on a crappy five
Speaker 1: and nine team. That's just the breaks. Sorry, Andy, that's
Speaker 1: the hand you've been dealt. And that's why it's a balance, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: try to win the division and because you I mean,
Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, who knows what could happen.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, don't get so wrapped up
Speaker 1: in what that means that you're not thinking about the
Speaker 1: big picture. And maybe that's kind of what happened last year.
Speaker 1: Ill said Lenny really ready for retirement or was it
Speaker 1: one of the things I have Shoot, he was here,
Speaker 1: he was here last night. Should have asked him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It makes me wonder because I know his
Speaker 1: family is here, so I don't know. If it was
Speaker 1: kind of like the Cowboys didn't call me back, And
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had really wanted Joe back, I think
Speaker 1: he would have been here. Yeah, I mean they still
Speaker 1: wanted him back. Now, he'd probably consider it, I would, well,
Speaker 1: I mean he can't now he retired as a New
Speaker 1: York Giant. They happen rights, Yeah, it'd be a question
Speaker 1: of whether he could get out of that, which I
Speaker 1: would assume he probably could. But who knows, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean why division rival, maybe not just maybe eat their ass.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not. I mean I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence, and the Cowboys don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 1: that the signed him and he retired with them and
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, but I remember back in March,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, talking to some people about Okay,
Speaker 1: free agency started. You know, you always got to get
Speaker 1: on the phone and figure out what's going on. Who's
Speaker 1: going to sign, And it was like, yeah, this guy
Speaker 1: will probably sign him, Joe will probably resign. Cool, and
Speaker 1: then I was kind of waiting on that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I wrote that story, but I had. We
Speaker 1: were kind of getting ready, we were we were prepared
Speaker 1: for a Joe saw him. I saw him at the
Speaker 1: Star District and I'm talking to him and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign. Just gotta go over there and get
Speaker 1: it done. I mean, I thought it was a done deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't give it. They didn't give seventy three to anyone,
Speaker 1: and like, this is happening. Even Kellen Moore mentioned didn't
Speaker 1: remember that he mentioned it in the training camp. I
Speaker 1: think Joe's not with us right now. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: and then he signed with the Giants like the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think he was always sort of in the
Speaker 1: mix to return, just didn't he left other than signed
Speaker 1: on the show with Shannon and Nate. It's definitely weird.
Speaker 1: I having said all of that, I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: close the book on Tyler Beatis. I mean, yeah, either
Speaker 1: this is they've played five games, so that he's started nine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: see what happened. But watch they've been winning games right now, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, you can't afford. You can't afford
Speaker 1: to make these mistakes against better teams like that happened.
Speaker 1: Of course, one play and they lose the game because
Speaker 1: of that. Honestly, I mean, that's that's what it'll be.
Speaker 1: It'll be that that drive against the Chargers going, you know, going,
Speaker 1: gotta get five more yards, ten more yards, got to
Speaker 1: get in field goal range and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: snap is low and he couldn't get it up and
Speaker 1: threw it and incomplete. Now they had to kick a
Speaker 1: fifty nine yard field goal and they missed, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna come back. And yeah, I mean they haven't been
Speaker 1: in those games yet, you know, really were other than
Speaker 1: that game right there where I guess Tampa. They were
Speaker 1: they were driving for that, for that, so they've been
Speaker 1: in those games. But like she said, that's when it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna happen. And honestly, I'll say this, if
Speaker 1: it happens once, I'm not necessarily gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they gotta get rid of him. I mean again, that's
Speaker 1: a part of the growing pains. And I personally am
Speaker 1: a believer in once you show me that you can
Speaker 1: do it, I believe you can. And what I'm what
Speaker 1: I'm getting at with that is they've now shown me
Speaker 1: that they know how to develop at least one offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust the fact that this is a guy
Speaker 1: that they're going to continue to develop until I'll see
Speaker 1: it being a problem. That's that's a consistent problem. Now
Speaker 1: if you go two or three weeks in a row
Speaker 1: and he is the reason why you're losing, now, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I know you want to develop him, but
Speaker 1: right now you got a team that can go far.
Speaker 1: You can't afford to let him hamstring you. And just
Speaker 1: then and snapping just seems like such a correctable issue.
Speaker 1: It's muscle memory. And again, I've never played center, but
Speaker 1: I can imagine if you're not one hundred percent confident
Speaker 1: that you can handle the guy in front of you,
Speaker 1: that's probably taking up a lot of space in your brain. Right, So,
Speaker 1: between the muscle memory and just getting more comfortable with
Speaker 1: the speed of it, Like in the long term, I'm
Speaker 1: way more worried about Tyler getting carried into the backfield
Speaker 1: than whether or not the snaps are Like I just
Speaker 1: I feel like that can come as you get more
Speaker 1: confident and comfortable with what's going. I've never seen Dak
Speaker 1: play basketball, but I bet he's pretty good, because that's
Speaker 1: what you have to do, to just gather the ball
Speaker 1: in like that. You know, that's roma was really good
Speaker 1: at it. You take bad snaps and you you scoop
Speaker 1: it up quickly, and you know, and that's what that's
Speaker 1: all it is. The ball's not always there, but you
Speaker 1: just at your handles. And so I bet you that
Speaker 1: is probably pretty good at it, because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're an NFL quarterback, you're probably pretty good at everything.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, even though I've never heard him, does he
Speaker 1: play golf. He picked up golf when we went to
Speaker 1: Mississippi State to do that movie about him. He like
Speaker 1: that was like the first real time he'd messed around
Speaker 1: with golf, and like by the end of the trip
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I'm gonna start doing this. And
Speaker 1: last time I heard he was pretty good, which is
Speaker 1: again not surprising, right an NFL athlete. Exactly. I taught
Speaker 1: Turns to Newman how to play golf. Brought us used
Speaker 1: to say that, yes, now that you mentioned it, yes
Speaker 1: I do. I brought us show. All right. So so
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We got some questions for
Speaker 1: you guys. Let's start first. This is a question I
Speaker 1: asked Bucky and his answer was kind of interesting to
Speaker 1: me because I kind of want to see where this
Speaker 1: plays out, and I'm gonna be watching very closely on
Speaker 1: Sunday to see how it plays out. But obviously, the
Speaker 1: tactic for Bill Belichick has been for years defensively, he's
Speaker 1: going to take away the best thing that the opposing
Speaker 1: team does offensive le He's gonna force them to beat
Speaker 1: him with beat them without it. Um. So, if you
Speaker 1: were advising Bill Belichick, what would you say on this
Speaker 1: team would be that one thing tactic player that you
Speaker 1: would think you need to try to take this away
Speaker 1: If you can. I can't get over the me advising Belichick.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do that. I laughed when you said it
Speaker 1: to Bucky, and I'm definitely laughing now, So I actually
Speaker 1: forgot what you were asking. So go ahead to start
Speaker 1: with Dave because I just can't get over the whole, like, Hey, Bill,
Speaker 1: Hey come here, nice nice hoodie, but I have to
Speaker 1: tell you something here watch out. Yeah, I do think
Speaker 1: it's I And so we talked about this earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be willing to really commit to stop
Speaker 1: the run. And if Bucky's right, maybe it'll be Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: And if he's got what what well, But Bucky, Bucky
Speaker 1: went opposite on that. He said, if I were telling
Speaker 1: him what to do, I would actually say stop the
Speaker 1: big play on the outside, which means I'm not not
Speaker 1: what Buck. He said. He would do what Bucky thinks
Speaker 1: that they're going to do, which is played cover one
Speaker 1: and trust those guys. And that'll be interesting because we
Speaker 1: haven't seen a team willing to do that very much
Speaker 1: yet this season. And then I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: what that looks like. J C. Jackson really underrated player.
Speaker 1: For as much as we rave about Digs, j. C.
Speaker 1: Jackson has like fourteen picks over the last two plus seasons.
Speaker 1: This year he got two. This year he had nine,
Speaker 1: the year before he had nine and twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: five before that. I mean, he's he's got ball skills. Um,
Speaker 1: what I'm interested in. We know Jalen Mills, we know
Speaker 1: his work, and we know that should be we know
Speaker 1: that should be a mismatch unless you're committed to always
Speaker 1: giving him help. Like if I'm the Cowboys, I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm Dak Prescott, I'm just like waiting for my opportunity
Speaker 1: where they let him try something one on one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is where we're going to get our money, right here, Eagles.
Speaker 1: He played for the Eagle, right for you. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm Dak, I'm looking at this and saying, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna play cover one and I'm always looking for
Speaker 1: whoever's the single coverage guy I feel like. And he
Speaker 1: said they like to put their best guy, best corner
Speaker 1: on your second best receiver. Who is that? Like, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I understand that CD is like
Speaker 1: we still give deference to a Cooper, but um, I
Speaker 1: think CD's pretty good and so if you're gonna put
Speaker 1: him against your top corner. I still think, man to man,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win a lot of those. I agree,
Speaker 1: and then and I also think maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 1: I don't. It's it's never that easy where it's just
Speaker 1: always j C. Jackson alone and then bracket the other guy.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, like a handful of times,
Speaker 1: you'll probably have an opportunity where Jalen Mills is asked
Speaker 1: to handle something by himself, and that again, that's where
Speaker 1: my radar goes off if I'm Dak Prescott. And then
Speaker 1: that doesn't even mention the interior matchups that that presents
Speaker 1: if they really do that, I mean, if they're really
Speaker 1: going pure cover one like that, then should be favorable
Speaker 1: for Dalton Schultz, should be favorable if they ought to
Speaker 1: go crazy. These logos weren't on the helmets. I mean,
Speaker 1: this looks like a twenty point win for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It really does. I mean I don't think it will
Speaker 1: be because they're not they're not giving yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but they're not scoring that many points either. I mean
Speaker 1: I looked at the average scoring per game and it's
Speaker 1: like thirty five to nineteen Cowboys to the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: just I looked at the weather. I showed Dave the weather,
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's another thing that's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be the Yeah, So I just I don't know. Belichick's
Speaker 1: not gonna play so like a small window. And we
Speaker 1: saw it in this past game. You know, they started
Speaker 1: the game kind of sloppy, and I think we saw
Speaker 1: that we're going around quite a lot but one of
Speaker 1: those and they were able to pick it up. But
Speaker 1: also the Giants they weren't doing much either, So I
Speaker 1: think that's that helped the Cowboys. Can I get back
Speaker 1: on track? And that's if I had to think of
Speaker 1: something that may be concerning other than snapping and you know,
Speaker 1: the center and all that, it's that aspect. They cannot
Speaker 1: start a game sloppy or kind of take them while,
Speaker 1: because then we go back to last year and like
Speaker 1: previous years where it doesn't go their way when they
Speaker 1: do that kind of thing in the first half of
Speaker 1: the game. So that's one thing I would want to
Speaker 1: be careful or like for them to be sure that
Speaker 1: they do not do that kind of stuff, because once
Speaker 1: the opposing team starts scoring a point, then you lose
Speaker 1: that momentum and then it's really hard to catch up,
Speaker 1: and as we know, they don't always they're not always
Speaker 1: able to catch up on time, even when Dak picks
Speaker 1: it up in the second half of the game. No,
Speaker 1: I would love to have Mac Jones down fourteen to nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's I'll take that, because that not just him.
Speaker 1: Their offense isn't really designed to just like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go track meat, let's go up and down the
Speaker 1: fielding like Cowboys can do that. But if it gets
Speaker 1: in one of those third quarter and it's like thirteen
Speaker 1: to ten or whatever, we've seen those games up there
Speaker 1: like that, then then yet anybody's game. So I think
Speaker 1: if Cowboys start out fast, and I think that those
Speaker 1: should be in good shaper. Yeah, the Pats have only
Speaker 1: hit twenty points against New York and Houston, right, just
Speaker 1: I know that's That's why I've looked at who they
Speaker 1: played and who they've beaten. I mean, MATC. Jones has
Speaker 1: not defeated a team with a veteran quarterback he's beaten.
Speaker 1: They've beaten two teams. They both started rookies, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and the Cowboys, I mean Dak is rolling
Speaker 1: as well as any quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 1: But does it not give you pause how well they
Speaker 1: played against Tampa Like they they didn't Tampa didn't just
Speaker 1: run roughshot over them and they There are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that think that they they had Tom a
Speaker 1: little confused in that game. Seditions in that game sucked,
Speaker 1: get it? I get that, absolutely so. But again, maybe
Speaker 1: knows Tom knowing like he's familiar with it. Right, But
Speaker 1: by the way, but by the way, I think that's
Speaker 1: probably any question. Belichick has been doing it so long.
Speaker 1: There's not a quarterback that he doesn't have a book
Speaker 1: on and know. Okay, here's what I think I want
Speaker 1: to do to this guy to make it hard on him, right,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would suspect that he's got a pretty
Speaker 1: good handle on what he thinks of Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: where he thinks the best chances are to keep Dak
Speaker 1: from the things that he likes to do and force
Speaker 1: him to do things that maybe he doesn't like to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that just means that they forced him to run the
Speaker 1: football with that those two offensive linemen that are great
Speaker 1: at as high as anybody in the league, and that
Speaker 1: running back and the backup running back that are. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, two top ten running backs are coming into
Speaker 1: the Fawksboro. I mean you've got you've got, and Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard is leading the NFL, or leading all running backs
Speaker 1: in average per carry. Zeke's third. I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: Roland so so yeah, you can. You can do those
Speaker 1: things that Dak is uncomfortable about. But I mean he
Speaker 1: hands the ball here and pitches the ball there, and
Speaker 1: it's tough to beat. So he's he's he's the goat
Speaker 1: for a reason, and he's going to have his work
Speaker 1: cutout for him obviously. This week. I mean, Bucky sends
Speaker 1: his blue chip players. He sent me six this morning,
Speaker 1: six of them. One of them. The only blue chip
Speaker 1: offensive player is Mac Jones, who I don't think is
Speaker 1: really that he's not a blue He's right teal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he has developed their baby blue is what
Speaker 1: he is. I get there someday, but I don't think
Speaker 1: you call him blue. I mean he's got he's got
Speaker 1: Nick Folk on there, He's got Matthew Slater, special teams
Speaker 1: defensive guys. I'm like, are they gonna scorny parts? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's turns that's I mean, it's it's all Dallas offense
Speaker 1: first Patriots defense. I just can't I can't imagine the
Speaker 1: Patriots scoring more than like eighteen points, and I can't
Speaker 1: imagine maybe it'll happen. I can't imagine the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: being held for of course they happen. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the Jets game just as well
Speaker 1: as the next guy. I get it. But again, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just looking at game. You're just looking using all
Speaker 1: of the tools and information available to you. Anything can
Speaker 1: happen on Sunday, but just looking at it analytically, that's
Speaker 1: how I feel. And frankly, we haven't seen the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do that this season. What we've seen is they play,
Speaker 1: they do what they're supposed to do against bad teams,
Speaker 1: and I would qualify this team as a I don't
Speaker 1: know if I call them bad, but they certainly are
Speaker 1: at the very best their average, and the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: destroyed bad teams and have done pretty good against everybody else,
Speaker 1: and the good teams they play well. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: haven't shown that tendency yet this year. This would be
Speaker 1: the first time if they were to lose this game,
Speaker 1: because I think that's not something they've been doing so
Speaker 1: far this year. All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us.
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