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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff from the Science Lab from how stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is Alice and I don't know like the science editor

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Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. And this is Robert Lamb,

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Speaker 1: science writer's how stuff Works dot com. And we are

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Speaker 1: podcasting to you from the Georgia summer means and mosquito. Yes,

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Speaker 1: lots of mosquitoes, So let's talk about the obvious question

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Speaker 1: out there. Do you mosquitoes flocked towards you? That seems

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Speaker 1: to be like, like, anytime I'm in an outdoor event

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Speaker 1: like that and someone gets bit in my mosquito, that's

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Speaker 1: like the instant conversation topic because someone's always like, I'm

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Speaker 1: mosky debate or they'll be like, normally I get bitten

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Speaker 1: by mosquitoes and my husband doesn't, or you know, it's

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Speaker 1: vice versa. I mean, it's something we all have some

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Speaker 1: experience with. I don't think any of us have necessarily

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Speaker 1: figured it out. So I had my Emma staying with

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Speaker 1: us a few weeks ago, and my mother in law

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Speaker 1: happens to be one of the people who she says,

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Speaker 1: mosquitoes flack to and she gets a lot of bites

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Speaker 1: and no kidding. She went up to um sort of

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Speaker 1: this loft spare room area that we have a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of our stuff in and also our lovely guests

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Speaker 1: get to stand. And actually, no, that's the point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: nothing's really, nobody's really ever up there. You know, we

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Speaker 1: never go up there. There's a fan going, you know,

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Speaker 1: so maybe the fan would deflect mosquitoes. But she went

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Speaker 1: up there and within minutes she was bitten five times.

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Speaker 1: I felt bad, I felt terrible. I felt like she lived,

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Speaker 1: you know, she thought we lived in some you know,

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Speaker 1: mosquito ridden hobble. But I think they really do like her. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And and that comes down to the interesting question do

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Speaker 1: mosquitoes really like some people more than others or is

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Speaker 1: this just kind of um, you know barbecue hearsay, Well,

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Speaker 1: you can you can count on science to get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of some of these mysteries. So we did

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Speaker 1: a little digging, and as it turns out, they really

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Speaker 1: do exhibit a preference for certain folks. So there was

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Speaker 1: a In Chee thousand one, a guy by the name

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Speaker 1: of David W. Kelly published a paper in Trends in Parasitology,

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Speaker 1: and it was called, appropriately enough, why are some people

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Speaker 1: bitten more than others the scientists and their titles. That

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Speaker 1: was a pretty good one. Um. In this case, Kelly

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Speaker 1: says humans will get bitten by blood sucking insects, and

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Speaker 1: frequently all of us are going to get a bite, right,

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Speaker 1: nobody's immune to it, but a special subset of that

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Speaker 1: population will be quote unquote heavily attacked. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: quantify the numbers that that Kelly starts stirring around in

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Speaker 1: this paper. So put ten people in a room with

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Speaker 1: say some anopolies mosquitoes, and those are the notorious specters

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Speaker 1: for the malarial parasite plasmodium, and or two of those

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Speaker 1: passing on eight of the disease. Okay, so let's let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it again. Two people are going to pass

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Speaker 1: on eight of the disease according to a Woolhouse at all.

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Speaker 1: So if that's pretty crazy and so, I mean, that

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Speaker 1: does seem to point or the idea that, yes, in fact,

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Speaker 1: mosquitoes do exhibit a preference from a public health perspective.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you could really home in on that and

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Speaker 1: figure out what makes them so attractive. I mean, not

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Speaker 1: only would you know mosquitoes or companies interested in mosquito

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Speaker 1: of us would want to hang out with them, like

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Speaker 1: their mosquitoes everywhere. Call up, Charlie, I want him standing

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Speaker 1: next to me, right and you know, mosquito bits are

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Speaker 1: annoying and we're kind of kidding at it, but you know,

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Speaker 1: when you think about all those people dying from malaria

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Speaker 1: And this is a slight tangent here, but I ran

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Speaker 1: across a really cool argument for mosquitoes, because mosquitoes are

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Speaker 1: help you make up your mind about where you gonna eat.

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Speaker 1: And it's similar to mosquitoes. Uh. The big one, of

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Speaker 1: course is c O two. Yeah, you know, which we're

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Speaker 1: This is not rocket science. Yeah, so they're going to

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Speaker 1: had been positive that women were sweeter because of estrogen,

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Speaker 1: and thus mosquito's favorite them more. But the bigger size

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Speaker 1: they there's they also think that that pregnant ladies may

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Speaker 1: gonna get a couple of listeners, small listeners out there

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Speaker 1: like if you're if you're really active, maybe you really active,

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Speaker 1: a small person talking with your hands, et cetera. Then

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Speaker 1: you know, they can cover some serious ground to get

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Speaker 1: talk about smell. Yeah, are we wearing perfume? I assume

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Speaker 1: But I did read one article that was talking, well

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Speaker 1: mosquitoes love Shalomar. What it's It's a ladies perfume. It's

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Speaker 1: This could attract it, and then less good smelling things

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Speaker 1: That's because there's there are a lot of like weird

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Speaker 1: in March two, I had a most excellent title. It's

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Speaker 1: aid beer consumption increases human attractiveness to malaria mosquitoes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that journal? Um improbable research? Yeah, this seems like a

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Speaker 1: a good idea, right, So here's what they did. And

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Speaker 1: There there's a whole section in the paper devoted to ethics.

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