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Speaker 1: Back in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike simper viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Yes, what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 7: No, a whole lot?
Speaker 1: How's everything sounding sounding? Seems like it's sounded fine.
Speaker 7: Pretty good. That's when dial's over there. I was, I
Speaker 7: don't know what you're.
Speaker 1: Doing right now. I was. I was doing an email
Speaker 1: about something completely unrelated everything else, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden I heard the music. There's my twitch. Boy, did
Speaker 1: I miss those guys this weekend? I turned it on
Speaker 1: at the wrong time. All right, Well, let's talk about
Speaker 1: some stuff, all right, Roz. Tonight we have got King
Speaker 1: of the Rings semifinal matches. Guntherur is going to be
Speaker 1: facing Jay and Lyra val Kaira will be facing EO Sky,
Speaker 1: and Sammy Zain will be facing Chad Gable in a
Speaker 1: non tournament match. So guntherer and jay Uso is interesting
Speaker 1: because both guys they don't beat a lot. Actually they
Speaker 1: beat jay a lot more than Gunther. But I do
Speaker 1: feel that good chance jay Uso is winning. Let me
Speaker 1: get the whole brackets all right, all right, King of
Speaker 1: the Ring twenty twenty four. Good thing, I had these
Speaker 1: up before the show started. Okay, so here are here's
Speaker 1: here's where we are. Okay, we're down to these semi finals. Yes,
Speaker 1: so on the one side of the bracket, Gunther and
Speaker 1: jay Uso and also Randy Orton Tomatonga. One of those
Speaker 1: four is going to be the new King of the Ring. Gunther,
Speaker 1: jay Uso, Randy Orton, Tomatonga. Now, I believe that it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to jay us So versus Tomatonga. I
Speaker 1: think Juso is winning, but I don't put it past
Speaker 1: them to have King Tonga. I think that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I believe in the storyline. I
Speaker 1: believe in the storyline. You know, Tomatanga is currently he's
Speaker 1: ranked below Solo and he's ranked below Roman Reigns. Right,
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns are the tribal chief. But he's gone Okay,
Speaker 1: So Solo's kind of the new tribal chief, which is
Speaker 1: a very intricate storyline by the way, because he claims
Speaker 1: he's talking to Roman all the time. I don't buy
Speaker 1: for a second. But anyway, so Tomatanga being the king
Speaker 1: ranked third, like you could do a story if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do like a power struggle. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: doing that right now with Tomatanga. Whereas jay Uso, you know,
Speaker 1: he can now say he's the king of the former bloodline. Plus,
Speaker 1: jay USO's do a big win.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: I talk to people the shows and they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: Jay's like the most over guy on the show. It's
Speaker 1: the exception of Cody. So I think that jay Uso
Speaker 1: is gonna win over tom A Tonga in the finals.
Speaker 1: Then we've got the women's side where we have Eo,
Speaker 1: sky Lyra, Naya and Bianca.
Speaker 7: Okay, m yeah, yeah, Well what's the matter?
Speaker 1: Well, I hate talking about stuff like this, you know,
Speaker 1: you know the you know the problem is with being
Speaker 1: me a lot of them. But one of the problems
Speaker 1: with being me is I am a a world renowned
Speaker 1: professional wrestling journalist and reporter, but I'm also a fan,
Speaker 1: Yes you are, so. I like to look at things
Speaker 1: through the fan lens and a humble fan, yes, and
Speaker 1: make predictions. But then sometimes when I do that, people
Speaker 1: presume that, well, I'm I'm telling you what's really happening,
Speaker 1: and then they write stupid stories on the Internet and
Speaker 1: people yell at me. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say about all of this. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say about all of this. So
Speaker 1: let's go back to the women's quarterfinals. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we had Shana Bezler and Eo sky Lyra and Zoe
Speaker 1: Stark and then we had Naya Jacks and Jade Cargill
Speaker 1: and Tiffany Stratton and Bianca bel Air. Yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, whole thing's kind of weird. The
Speaker 1: whole thing's just kind of weird to me. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there was a thing that happened with Tiffany Stratton where
Speaker 1: I won't go into all of the details, but essentially,
Speaker 1: and I could even be wrong on the details, but
Speaker 1: someone posted a video, I believe, on Instagram and it
Speaker 1: was footage of I guess Tiffany punching Jade. Is that right, Yes,
Speaker 1: and somebody had done a voiceover and said something that
Speaker 1: was certainly not right, okay, and Tiffany liked it, right,
Speaker 1: So what happened She liked it something, she acknowledged it
Speaker 1: in a positive way. We can say that, okay. So
Speaker 1: then you know, people were like what and then you know,
Speaker 1: they start looking, digging into her background and everything and
Speaker 1: finding things that they find questionable. And so it was.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that there are people that saying
Speaker 1: it was never a thing or whatever, but it was
Speaker 1: a thing. And I know this because I heard that
Speaker 1: it was a thing. I didn't even know what happened,
Speaker 1: and I had people that were telling me, you know,
Speaker 1: something's going on here, and ultimately nothing allegedly became of it.
Speaker 1: But you know, we had this this tournament here where
Speaker 1: I figured that Jade was going to beat Naya and
Speaker 1: Tiffany was going to beat Bianca, and so we would
Speaker 1: get Tiffany versus Jade in the semifinals. Okay, I thought
Speaker 1: Jade was going to win the entire thing. Okay, But
Speaker 1: what happened was Tiffany ends up losing to Bianca. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe listen, I want to make this clear. Maybe this
Speaker 1: was the entire plan all the way from day one. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is certainly possible. But coming off this controversy, Tiffany
Speaker 1: loses to Bianca, and I was pretty certain that they
Speaker 1: were not going to do Bianca and Jade in this tournament.
Speaker 1: So Bianca moves on in the tournament, and then Jade
Speaker 1: Cargill loses via d Q in the lamest finish ever
Speaker 1: to Nya Jacks. Okay, I don't know, man. I think
Speaker 1: that it's possible that Tiffany and Jade were gonna move
Speaker 1: on to the semifinals and that is where they were
Speaker 1: gonna do whatever they're gonna do with the Jade if
Speaker 1: she wasn't gonna win, I can't imagine that because of
Speaker 1: something that happen with Tiffany, Jade is no longer winning
Speaker 1: a tournament she was gonna win. But maybe Tiffany and
Speaker 1: Jade they were gonna do the same chair finish or whatever.
Speaker 1: Tiffany goes on to the finals and then either wins
Speaker 1: the entire tournament, which a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: saying maybe Tiffany could win the tournament, or losing to
Speaker 1: whoever wins the EO Lyra match. So I can't say
Speaker 1: that this happened. I don't know, but Nya, Jackson, Bianca,
Speaker 1: bell Air and this and then Eosky and Lyra, Like
Speaker 1: I just look at these four and it's like, what
Speaker 1: are the finals? Like, what are the finals? EO versus Nya,
Speaker 1: EO versus Bianca, Lyra and Bianca, Like it's just weird.
Speaker 7: I don't know, Well, Bianca and EO is just a
Speaker 7: really really good match, So you know you're going to
Speaker 7: get that in the Queen of the Ring finals, so
Speaker 7: you have that going for you. Maybe they were going
Speaker 7: to do Jay defeats Nya in the same type of
Speaker 7: finish that they ended up doing, and then in the
Speaker 7: semifinals because it's Saudi Arabia and you can get away
Speaker 7: with this kind of finish. There, Naya comes out and
Speaker 7: does something that trips her up, which lets Tiffany, you know, advance.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know what exactly the plan
Speaker 7: was or if anything that happened with Tiffany threw things
Speaker 7: off or anything like that. But they are also really
Speaker 7: pushing Lyra hard right now, associating her with so her
Speaker 7: going to the final. Maybe you can do that in
Speaker 7: Bianca and you just say, hey, you're having a good match. Again,
Speaker 7: it's Saudi Arabia. I don't think that this is at
Speaker 7: the forefront of their creative right now. I think they're
Speaker 7: trying to just get this stuff out of the way.
Speaker 7: They had backlash, and let's move forward with these newly
Speaker 7: drafted rosters and get some things going that way.
Speaker 1: So then we've got the NXT show tomorrow. They have
Speaker 1: officially announced that the three way has been changed Wes Lee,
Speaker 1: Josh Briggs and Joe Coffee because Ivar was supposed to
Speaker 1: be in that match but Ivar is legitimately injured and
Speaker 1: it appears to be serious. And then we've got Jada Parker, Brinley,
Speaker 1: Reeese six Pack Challenge Qualifier, THEA and fallin same thing
Speaker 1: and Naddy and Karmen Petrovitch versus Shana and Lola. This
Speaker 1: was a tape show, so if you want spoilers, they're
Speaker 1: easy to find. Back in a moment, i'msu WeLive.
Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alfarez
Speaker 2: and Mike semper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Back kind of the show.
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Well, apparently during the break there was like this giant
Speaker 1: debate because you know, last week got to talk about
Speaker 1: the show is every day, and then someone on Twitter
Speaker 1: was like, it's not every day. This actually is every day.
Speaker 1: It's Monday through Sunday. Yeah, and Jim Valley's there Saturday,
Speaker 1: and Andrews there on Sunday. And now people are arguing
Speaker 1: that it's really not because there was no show on Friday,
Speaker 1: and they're debating whether it was a show on Friday.
Speaker 1: And the answer is everybody, there was a show Friday,
Speaker 1: but it was not live Friday. It was taped and
Speaker 1: put up on the website. Yes, okay, So is that
Speaker 1: is that what we're good now?
Speaker 7: Controversy? Yes?
Speaker 1: I believe so. Really so, there were there were seven
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer lives in the last week. Yeah, all right, okay,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Swift Bunch, Dynamite Swarms, Tricklin versus Nick
Speaker 1: Wayne in Bakersfield, California. Well, we have got Hook Shabata
Speaker 1: and Brian Keith three way number one contender match for
Speaker 1: the FTW title. I want to talk about that one
Speaker 1: in a minute, all right, Rodert Strong and Trent Barrett
Speaker 1: versus Orange Cassidy and will Ospray, Tony Storm and Mariah
Speaker 1: May versus Soriah and Harley Cameron.
Speaker 7: Another one just talking.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run over the lineup that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this in great depth. Kyle o'reiley versus Malachi Black,
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson versus Sat Sing Can someone this guy in
Speaker 1: No Bullet Club Gold will do a promo Takesha versus
Speaker 1: Matt's sidel a preview of Willow and Mercedes at My
Speaker 1: Favorite And this is a direct quote. John Moxley will
Speaker 1: be in the building. I wish last week they would
Speaker 1: have announced as part of the Dynamite lineup. Producer Rob
Speaker 1: will be in the restroom.
Speaker 7: Carly Bright will be in the locker room to break
Speaker 7: up fights.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know it feels like we're all piling on
Speaker 1: aw lately, but it's just I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: had a good time at Dynamite. I really had a
Speaker 1: great time. I had so much fun at that show.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to go to Double or Nothing weekend. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of this, all right. Would it
Speaker 1: have been so hard for Swerve and Nick Wayne to
Speaker 1: do their match in Everett? Why is this match in Bakersfield?
Speaker 1: Can somebody explain this to me? The best. The best
Speaker 1: that I can come up with is their timing was wrong.
Speaker 1: They had to break up the Mogul embassy. It left
Speaker 1: them a week late, and so they shot the angle
Speaker 1: in Everett and they're doing the match in Bakersfield.
Speaker 7: Well, okay, let me play. Let me try to play
Speaker 7: devil's advocate on this a little bit and.
Speaker 1: Just say, I know what you're gonna say, but go ahead.
Speaker 7: He got revenge in his hometown by bloodying up the
Speaker 7: champion by doing the same exact thing to him as
Speaker 7: was done in the garage at his house. So there's that,
Speaker 7: let's sense up and it gave him a chance to
Speaker 7: kill Jack Cartwheel. It looked like a guy that is
Speaker 7: ready to step up and face the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'll be devil's Devil's advocate, go ahead. So
Speaker 1: so break the thing over his head the week before
Speaker 1: and say, exactly one year later or whatever in my hometown,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pin you in the middle of the ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he beats Jack carrweel last week instead of
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 7: Or he could have been getting wins, you know, for
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks leading into this, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then then we've got this one. This is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems with aw I mean literally
Speaker 1: virtually every problem I have with his entire show in
Speaker 1: one match. Okay, it's Hook, Shabata, and Brian Keith. Okay,
Speaker 1: So last week on Dynamite, Chris Jericho said, Hook, if
Speaker 1: you want to shot at my title, you must win
Speaker 1: a qualifying match. And then Shabata showed up, and you know,
Speaker 1: Hook's talking about his match, and Shabada says, what if
Speaker 1: the opponent is me? It goes what Shabata goes, I
Speaker 1: want to shot it Jericho as well, and then Samoa Joe,
Speaker 1: who's been doing nothing except training. Apparently he had done
Speaker 1: a thing since losing the title. He just does training videos.
Speaker 1: He shows up and he makes fun of both guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm at the show, literally at the show as
Speaker 1: a fan. The show ends, I have no earthly idea
Speaker 1: what's going on in Collision. I only know that Hook
Speaker 1: has a qualifier. Maybe it's with Shebata and maybe it's
Speaker 1: with Joe, But I don't have any idea. Okay. So
Speaker 1: then we go to Collision and Jericho cuts a promo
Speaker 1: and he wishes Hook luck in his qualifier. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Hook then comes out. I'm like, okay, well, let's find
Speaker 1: out what his qualifier is. So Hook comes down to
Speaker 1: the ring and out comes Johnny TV. I'm like, who what?
Speaker 1: Okay whatever? So Hook beats Johnny TV and they say
Speaker 1: he is qualified for a three way qualifier on Wednesday.
Speaker 7: He qualified for the qualifier.
Speaker 1: You say that, that's exactly what happened. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: So then outcomes Shebada, Like, who's he gonna face Joe? Maybe?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: Outcomes Sabada to face Rocky Romero.
Speaker 7: But before he does, they acknowledge each other on the ramp.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he faces Rocky Romero. Hey listen, I love Rocky,
Speaker 1: but like what, he beats him. They announced that Shabata
Speaker 1: is now qualified for the qualifier. Okay, Now, I think
Speaker 1: I've got to figure it out because they didn't tell us.
Speaker 1: It's one of the many problems. They don't tell you
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's a it's top secret what the
Speaker 1: matches are gonna be. They don't even tell like the
Speaker 1: production people until like an hour before the show. I'm
Speaker 1: not even making that up. Nobody knows anything. He keeps
Speaker 1: everything top secret from everybody, which is another story. But
Speaker 1: I'll get to that later. So I'm thinking, okay, next
Speaker 1: out will come Samoa Joe, but instead out comes Brian Keith.
Speaker 7: They acknowledge each other.
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Brian Keith, well he'll he'll get killed
Speaker 1: by Joe. So I'm waiting for them at Joe's music
Speaker 1: and instead, as God above as my witness, here out
Speaker 1: comes Jacked Jamison. That's who came out, and he brings
Speaker 1: with him. I'm hoping there are people in the chat
Speaker 1: that didn't watch Collision anything. I'm making this up. He
Speaker 1: brings out with him Beefcake Boulder, who's a big, fat,
Speaker 1: hairy guy, and he starts talking about his nipples and
Speaker 1: titty City. Can you say that this is also a
Speaker 1: qualifying match? What does Beefcake Boulder and Brian Keith have
Speaker 1: to do with anything anything? They ring the bell and
Speaker 1: they have this match. Titty City is a place everybody,
Speaker 1: Why are you angry at me? They have this match,
Speaker 1: Brian Keith wins. Brian Keith is in a qualifying match.
Speaker 1: He has won a qualifier to be in a qualifier
Speaker 1: for a three way. Oh, I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: So now now let's break all of this down. First off,
Speaker 1: why the hell can you make this clear on Wednesday?
Speaker 1: What's going on on Collision? It was an absolentce, complete
Speaker 1: and utter mystery. If I had driven from Seattle all
Speaker 1: the way to Portland, one of the worst cities on
Speaker 1: the West Coast, Oh wait, no, it is to watch
Speaker 1: this show. And I went in not having any clue
Speaker 1: what was going on, and this was presented to me,
Speaker 1: I'd have been real mad. But anyway, so they do
Speaker 1: this bizarre thing. They don't tell us anything about it.
Speaker 1: Nobody in the building has any idea what's going on
Speaker 1: because they don't even announce during the ring intros is
Speaker 1: a qualifying match? They just announce these guys they come
Speaker 1: out for their match, and I'm like, okay, whatever's the
Speaker 1: usual problem. We don't announce anything. It's all a mystery.
Speaker 1: You just show up because you want to see a show,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing. Not shown up for anything in particular
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's gonna be on the show.
Speaker 1: But why is Brian Keith in here? Because it's the
Speaker 1: other major issue with AW and that is everyone stays
Speaker 1: at the same level forever. You can't do hook Shabbada
Speaker 1: and Joe because you gotta beat one of them. Well,
Speaker 1: we can't beat Joe. Clearly, we're not gonna beat Shabbada.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna beat Hook. So we have to have
Speaker 1: some rando when a rando qualifier between two randos who
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with anything in this feud, to
Speaker 1: put them in so that the word the rando can
Speaker 1: be beaten. So when this is all said and done,
Speaker 1: Hook is gonna be in the exact same spot he
Speaker 1: was before. Shabbada is gonna be the exact same spot
Speaker 1: he was before, and Brian Keith will be in the
Speaker 1: exact same spot he was before.
Speaker 7: And once again, nobody actually succeeds being suck to the
Speaker 7: vortex of Jericho.
Speaker 1: No, it's not even the Jericho thing, dude, but let's
Speaker 1: think about it. Forget, forget it's even Jericho. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know you're on the Jericho thing. Let's pretend that Joe
Speaker 1: won the FTW title. Okay, Joe beat Hook for the
Speaker 1: FTW title. You do this program here, it's leading to
Speaker 1: a three way, which presumably Hook is going to win.
Speaker 1: Hook is in a googo on the pay per view
Speaker 1: and he's gonna beat Samoe, Joe or in this case
Speaker 1: Chris Jericho likely and he's gonna win the FTW title. Okay.
Speaker 1: So at the end of all of this, whether it's Jericho,
Speaker 1: whether it's Joe or whoever, it ends with Jericho or
Speaker 1: Joe being in the exact same spot and Hook being
Speaker 1: in the exact same spot as the FTW champion, which
Speaker 1: has been for years. I'll be right back, Deserver Live.
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Speaker 2: You were most to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: By the show, Brian Elvaz here Wrestling Observer Live. I
Speaker 1: don't want to keep going, but let somebody here goes
Speaker 1: if everyone say at the same level, forever Swerve never
Speaker 1: wins the AW title and Roddy never wins the International title.
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, we Swerve has the AW World
Speaker 1: title around his waist. Where is he okay? Imagine nobody
Speaker 1: has a belt? Where is Swerve now compared to where
Speaker 1: he was before he won the title. He's in the
Speaker 1: exact same spot. He's feuding with Christian who's claim to
Speaker 1: a championship match is I don't even know. He's coming
Speaker 1: off a loss in his last match for a title.
Speaker 1: He vanished and he came back and put himself in
Speaker 1: the title picture with some explanation about how we used
Speaker 1: to team or something like that. And it's not the
Speaker 1: main event of the pay per view. It's an underneath
Speaker 1: match in Everett. He was over, which he was before.
Speaker 1: He had a great match, which he had before, and
Speaker 1: the match was he went fifty to fifty with Brian
Speaker 1: Cage for twenty minutes. If you take the belts off,
Speaker 1: everybody where is Swerve now compared to But he's in
Speaker 1: an exact same spot. If you take the belts off
Speaker 1: everybody where is Roderick Strong now compared to was he
Speaker 1: where he was before? He's in the exact same spot.
Speaker 1: He's got his mustache, he's got his glasses. We almost
Speaker 1: never see him wrestle. He's doing commentary, and he's got
Speaker 1: a match coming up with will Osprey in the middle
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 7: Card for a mid card, but that has been a
Speaker 7: mid card.
Speaker 1: Belt when you have eighteen belts, when you have five
Speaker 1: singles championships on a single show. I mentioned this the
Speaker 1: other day. I went to Dynamite with my buddy, Bo
Speaker 1: knows zilch about wrestling. I don't think he's watched wrestling
Speaker 1: since like the Monday Night Wars. But he does jiu
Speaker 1: jitsu with me. No, he does jiu jitsu with me,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to the show. You
Speaker 1: want to go, Rob's gonna be there, and you know,
Speaker 1: he goes, sure, we have another buddy who trains nave
Speaker 1: and he I invited him and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're all going. You want to go? He says sure,
Speaker 1: So he went, okay, had a great time. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I had a great time. Okay, but the show's over.
Speaker 1: We leave, start heading to the car, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: ask me one question about any of the characters or
Speaker 1: any of the storylines. He's not like, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: what's the deal with you know those guys that are
Speaker 1: in charge of nothing. He doesn't ask anything. We just
Speaker 1: start talk about other things and got other things he
Speaker 1: wants to talk about. But then he does bring up
Speaker 1: one question and he just stops me and he goes,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure we had three title
Speaker 1: matches on that show. I said, yes, there were three
Speaker 1: championship matches on the show. He goes, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a lot, isn't it. I said, dude, there's like eighteen belts.
Speaker 1: He went what I said, Yes, that was the one
Speaker 1: takeaway that he got. So the point is when you
Speaker 1: have all of these belts and everybody has a belt,
Speaker 1: but where whether they have a belt or not they're
Speaker 1: still slotted in the exact same spot. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if Swerve won the title and you put him against
Speaker 1: will Ospray, a double or nothing for the title in
Speaker 1: the main event. Now we're talking final match on the show.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking if his angle was closing out every
Speaker 1: single show, it was the main event segment. He opened
Speaker 1: the show doing a main event segment, He closed the
Speaker 1: show doing a main event segment. The show's built around
Speaker 1: the guy. That's something. Just putting the belt around his
Speaker 1: waist and leaving him in the exact same spot means nothing.
Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy's in the exact same spot. Trent is in
Speaker 1: the exact same spot. I could go up and down
Speaker 1: the roster, and you're Anna J's remember Anna J when
Speaker 1: she was first starting out man few years. It's same
Speaker 1: broken record. She's in the exact same spot. So that's
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 7: Even worse than that are people that go for titles
Speaker 7: and end up in a much worse spot, like possibly
Speaker 7: Diana Parrazzo and maybe three to deep the way this
Speaker 7: thing is going, because she had a match against Anna J,
Speaker 7: the person you just mentioned, and it was a good
Speaker 7: match for Anna J. It was a good match actually period,
Speaker 7: But why did he go for so long if you're
Speaker 7: trying to get deep over as this babyface? And why
Speaker 7: would it be against Anna J? And why would you
Speaker 7: give Anna J a babyface comeback coming out of the break,
Speaker 7: And why does Tony then steal the flag and do
Speaker 7: a strip tease behind it as Serena goes running up
Speaker 7: the ramp and they'd hold on the shot for too
Speaker 7: long and she looks like a schmuck like, I don't
Speaker 7: get it. I don't get what they're doing. I don't
Speaker 7: get what they're doing with a lot of the show.
Speaker 7: And Pac Pac actually said something during his promo, Yes
Speaker 7: that was make me feel something, and aw does it
Speaker 7: make people feel a whole lot? And at some point
Speaker 7: MJF is going to come back and that is going
Speaker 7: to be great. I don't know right now. I mean
Speaker 7: there's things that they can do, but boy, you need
Speaker 7: some jolts to start happening here and well Osbury can
Speaker 7: be a jolt, but not necessarily how they're using them. Man,
Speaker 7: you kick off a show like that where Roderick Strong
Speaker 7: never put him on commentary again.
Speaker 1: I actually like roder Strong, accout you.
Speaker 7: Look I like personally he's such a jerk. But the
Speaker 7: thing is he's a comedic mid card douche. And you
Speaker 7: talk about, like, what did at the end of the
Speaker 7: day the Devil's storyline due for anybody. It didn't do
Speaker 7: anything for anybody, because there was a little bit there
Speaker 7: with Strong Taven and Bennett and they've just been bumble
Speaker 7: Putts's ever since. So I that whole thing I thought
Speaker 7: was terrible. The Bretta Cassidy feud. I'm sure there's somebody
Speaker 7: out there who's deep into it and they love it.
Speaker 7: I mean, look at the post and just let me
Speaker 7: skip to the end because and then I'll shut up
Speaker 7: about it. The post match beat down that went on
Speaker 7: for a long time with Lance Archer and uh Vinnie
Speaker 7: and Dude beaten down Brian Danielson in FTR. Why were
Speaker 7: the Young Bucks and Jack Perry not there to conduct
Speaker 7: that whole thing instead? It's just a long beat down,
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden we get Daniel Garcia
Speaker 7: running out there, and it's like, I don't know, I
Speaker 7: don't know how they go about doing things or whatever.
Speaker 7: Maybe these all of these plans ought to not be
Speaker 7: so top secret and they might want to run through
Speaker 7: some filters and put some new eyes on it, because
Speaker 7: a lot of what they do does not make sense
Speaker 7: and it's not very intriguing right now, not to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a couple of people here, Well we
Speaker 1: should declare aw No, we should not declare AW dead.
Speaker 7: See there, and in fact, well there's the biggest.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my thing. Listen, if AW were doomed, like
Speaker 1: who cares, it's done, Okay. The point is they're not.
Speaker 1: The point is they have an incredible roster.
Speaker 7: They're gonna make a lot of money soon.
Speaker 1: They have an incredible roster. They're probably gonna get a
Speaker 1: greatly improved television dealer at least better.
Speaker 7: They're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Nobody says i'd say fifty percent increase. Maybe you know, it's.
Speaker 7: About what wwe do.
Speaker 1: It does matter. Actually some people are respecting. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be better. But here's a point.
Speaker 7: Bottom line is it ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: The point is it's frustrating because you have everything that
Speaker 1: you could possibly need to have a great promotion doing
Speaker 1: significantly better than it's doing right now. And so it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: When you have all of these pieces, you have an
Speaker 1: entire puzzle in front of you, a giant, beautiful, colorful puzzle,
Speaker 1: and you can't put the pieces together in a meaningful way.
Speaker 1: That's what frustrates me. I wouldn't care if it were sunk.
Speaker 1: Who cares? The point is it's not. There was a
Speaker 1: period where WCW was like so far gone, it was
Speaker 1: like all you can do is laugh at it, make
Speaker 1: fun of it. But you can't care that much because
Speaker 1: it's doomed. It is absolutely doomed. AW is nowhere near
Speaker 1: absolutely doomed. They're not doomed at all. What it is
Speaker 1: is a whole bunch of wasted potential, which is irritating.
Speaker 1: And it's like, it's not a lot of solutions that
Speaker 1: are difficult. It's not like you if you're poor. Let's
Speaker 1: say you make ten thousand dollars a year and you've
Speaker 1: got some issue, and it's like, you know what solved
Speaker 1: this problem? If I had thirty million dollars, okay, well brother,
Speaker 1: you're toast. Okay. But if you make one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: a year and to put your kids through college one
Speaker 1: hundred ten thousand a year, well, if there was something
Speaker 1: you could do to make ten thousand easily and you
Speaker 1: weren't doing it, it'd be frustrating. Just do it right.
Speaker 1: This is not out of me the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: These are not difficult fixes.
Speaker 7: No, you're more upset about it than I am. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's frustrating, but it's one of those things where I've
Speaker 7: been reviewing wrestling for long before AW came along, and
Speaker 7: there is plenty out there to discuss if they somehow
Speaker 7: just poof went away, which absolutely is not going to happen,
Speaker 7: and people that take all of that and go, oh
Speaker 7: my god, the downfall of AW, or when you talk
Speaker 7: about the rating last week, which was terrible by any metric,
Speaker 7: I don't care if you put the playoffs in there.
Speaker 7: They had not drawn under three hundred thousand people since
Speaker 7: like July of twenty twenty one. I mean, it's not
Speaker 7: things aren't humming right now, and they're not exciting creatively,
Speaker 7: and it's not oh, wwe this, or it's you know,
Speaker 7: people's bad feelings, that's what it is. Oh it's something online. No,
Speaker 7: they're just not clicking right now, and there have been
Speaker 7: plenty of times when they do, and guess what when
Speaker 7: it comes to double or nothing when the pay per
Speaker 7: view happens, Just like almost every single pay per view
Speaker 7: they had. Regardless of any of this build up we're
Speaker 7: talking about, it's probably gonna be a kick ass show
Speaker 7: and worth the money, because those always are. But the
Speaker 7: fact of the matter is, from week to week, this
Speaker 7: is a tough show to watch. It's a tough show
Speaker 7: to get into, and it's a tough show when people
Speaker 7: leave it to then get back into it. And that's
Speaker 7: a problem.
Speaker 1: All right, One last thing before we go onto the
Speaker 1: next topic. Yes, sir, Bakersfield, as of Friday, according to
Speaker 1: wrestle Takes fifteen hundred tickets could.
Speaker 7: Have did five thousand an effort if you would have
Speaker 7: advertised swerve in Nick Wayne.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it better. And we've
Speaker 1: also got double or Nothing, which you know in years past.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great example years past, Double or
Speaker 1: Nothing sold out boom, sixty four hundred tickets right now,
Speaker 1: I mean set up for seven thousand and the MGM
Speaker 1: Grand Gardneria, And let me tell you something. MGM holds
Speaker 1: more than seven thousand, like significantly more. Yes, you could
Speaker 1: double that easy, but there's sixty four hundred. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says about me, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: whatever they do double or nothing in Vegas every year,
Speaker 1: and this year sixty four hundred. That's not basketball, that's
Speaker 1: not whatever. That's significantly declined interest from your hardcore traveling
Speaker 1: fan base. So hey, I do want to congratulate cool Hand,
Speaker 1: Ang and Ruby. So the Actually they did get married
Speaker 1: this weekend, and a legitimate marriage, and on our front
Speaker 1: page it said they have seemingly tied the knot. They
Speaker 1: definitely tied the knot. I got married this weekend and
Speaker 1: very happy for them. They got their their child coming.
Speaker 1: So I love to see stuff like that. Sleep now
Speaker 1: well you can, yes, all right? Uh, I had really
Speaker 1: nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 7: Just wrap it up for a day on Friday in anymore,
Speaker 7: they'd never be able to work them again. Right.
Speaker 1: We could talk about Anderson Silvan Schale Son and fighting
Speaker 1: for a third time in an exhibition boxing match. Holy wait,
Speaker 1: when did I jail is a glutton for punishment?
Speaker 7: Look, I didn't realize until they said it on SmackDown.
Speaker 7: So Jake Paul and Mike Tyson is only eight days away.
Speaker 1: That's what they said.
Speaker 7: I'll be damned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's winning?
Speaker 7: I hope Mike Tyson?
Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance Tyson wins.
Speaker 7: Look he hit some one time. I'm just I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Have you seen Mike Tyson train too well?
Speaker 1: Listen, I've seen we saw Rick Flair tray. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the issue with training footage. Okay, easy. Anybody can look
Speaker 1: good for thirty seconds or a minute. If this thing
Speaker 1: goes twelve rounds, Tyson a winning It takes a half second,
Speaker 1: but he can knock this guy out in the first
Speaker 1: three rounds. So please please to Paul's down in one weekend.
Speaker 1: Please back in a moment Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: You know, regarding that Tyson training footage, I've been training
Speaker 1: pretty hard lately.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I have been.
Speaker 1: So today's workout was you do twenty full burpies with
Speaker 1: the jump in, the full push up twenty and then
Speaker 1: twenty kettlebell swings with a twenty pound kettlebell. Then you
Speaker 1: do thirty seconds rest, you do the circuit five times. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I did this first round. I did the twenty burpies,
Speaker 1: full push up, full jump grab, that kettlebell. I did
Speaker 1: twenty swings. I put it down. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: if you would have filmed that first round, you'd have
Speaker 1: been like, this guy's on TRT or something. Holy smokes.
Speaker 1: I felt great. I'm like, you know what, I've supposed
Speaker 1: to wait thirty seconds. I bet I could do another
Speaker 1: one right now. But I waited a little bit. Did
Speaker 1: the second set. Didn't fel quite so great. After that
Speaker 1: second one. Did that third set, I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: I can make it through two more. Did that fourth set,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's been a long time. I probably
Speaker 1: could just quit right now. I was ready to die
Speaker 1: after that fifth set, like die. So that's and I
Speaker 1: don't I forrag how long it took to do one.
Speaker 1: But you know, one round is gonna be three minutes
Speaker 1: for Tyson. He's gonna look great in that first round.
Speaker 1: People are gonna be like, oh my god, he's turned
Speaker 1: back the clock. But let me tell you something. Put
Speaker 1: a couple of rounds in. He's I'm forty What am
Speaker 1: I forty eight? Forty eight? Yes, so he's he's ten
Speaker 1: years older than I am. Okay, I'm ten years younger
Speaker 1: than him. Now, grant, I'm not Mike Tyson, but I
Speaker 1: bet you anything that thing goes past about four rounds,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see that guy's fifty seven years old.
Speaker 7: You're turning forty nine.
Speaker 1: By the way, not yet. I got a month. But
Speaker 1: the point is, the point is he's got to get
Speaker 1: this done quick. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: do that when you get by the way, go up
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