WEBVTT - Double or Nothing - Full Lineup

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on or Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>it is Monday here on the show, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. Well, so we've got a lots to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about because it is double or nothing weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be hitting to Vegas on Friday for all

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<v Speaker 1>the festivities. Be there Friday, Saturday, Sunday, coming home Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got a lot going on if you're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to Vegas over a Memorial Day weekend, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a dinner at Texas Day Brazil we're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be attending. We've got a Sweet party on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got our own section at the Double or Nothing Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a brunch, a bunch of other things as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you'd like to attend any of it, including

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<v Speaker 1>tickets for that are available as well at for W

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<v Speaker 1>online dot com slash Vegas. But we can go over

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<v Speaker 1>the full lineup for the AW show. We had collision

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<v Speaker 1>and rampage this weekend and a lot of people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things as it regards AW. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about some of it today. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other news as well, including raw tonight. The

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<v Speaker 1>King of the Ring tournament continues. They also have a

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view this weekend from Saudi Arabia, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that. The lineup thus far, and there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a couple of couple of well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>WWE does all this press, so we'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that have come out of that,

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<v Speaker 1>including Cody talking about his time in aw Mary Gold

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<v Speaker 1>ran their debut event, and Filthy Tom is on the beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike simper viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Yes, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on?

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<v Speaker 7>No, a whole lot?

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<v Speaker 1>How's everything sounding sounding? Seems like it's sounded fine.

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<v Speaker 7>Pretty good. That's when dial's over there. I was, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing right now. I was. I was doing an email

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<v Speaker 1>about something completely unrelated everything else, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden I heard the music. There's my twitch. Boy, did

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<v Speaker 1>I miss those guys this weekend? I turned it on

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<v Speaker 1>at the wrong time. All right, Well, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff, all right, Roz. Tonight we have got King

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rings semifinal matches. Guntherur is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>facing Jay and Lyra val Kaira will be facing EO Sky,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sammy Zain will be facing Chad Gable in a

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<v Speaker 1>non tournament match. So guntherer and jay Uso is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because both guys they don't beat a lot. Actually they

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<v Speaker 1>beat jay a lot more than Gunther. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel that good chance jay Uso is winning. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>get the whole brackets all right, all right, King of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ring twenty twenty four. Good thing, I had these

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<v Speaker 1>up before the show started. Okay, so here are here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's where we are. Okay, we're down to these semi finals. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so on the one side of the bracket, Gunther and

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<v Speaker 1>jay Uso and also Randy Orton Tomatonga. One of those

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<v Speaker 1>four is going to be the new King of the Ring. Gunther,

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<v Speaker 1>jay Uso, Randy Orton, Tomatonga. Now, I believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come down to jay us So versus Tomatonga. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Juso is winning, but I don't put it past

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<v Speaker 1>them to have King Tonga. I think that's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, I believe in the storyline. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the storyline. You know, Tomatanga is currently he's

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<v Speaker 1>ranked below Solo and he's ranked below Roman Reigns. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns are the tribal chief. But he's gone Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Solo's kind of the new tribal chief, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a very intricate storyline by the way, because he claims

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking to Roman all the time. I don't buy

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. But anyway, so Tomatanga being the king

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<v Speaker 1>ranked third, like you could do a story if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do like a power struggle. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing that right now with Tomatanga. Whereas jay Uso, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he can now say he's the king of the former bloodline. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>jay USO's do a big win.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to people the shows and they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's like the most over guy on the show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of Cody. So I think that jay Uso

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna win over tom A Tonga in the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've got the women's side where we have Eo,

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<v Speaker 1>sky Lyra, Naya and Bianca.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, m yeah, yeah, Well what's the matter?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hate talking about stuff like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the you know the problem is with being

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of them. But one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>with being me is I am a a world renowned

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<v Speaker 1>professional wrestling journalist and reporter, but I'm also a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you are, so. I like to look at things

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<v Speaker 1>through the fan lens and a humble fan, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>make predictions. But then sometimes when I do that, people

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<v Speaker 1>presume that, well, I'm I'm telling you what's really happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they write stupid stories on the Internet and

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<v Speaker 1>people yell at me. You know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm gonna say about all of this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm gonna say about all of this. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the women's quarterfinals. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Shana Bezler and Eo sky Lyra and Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>Stark and then we had Naya Jacks and Jade Cargill

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<v Speaker 1>and Tiffany Stratton and Bianca bel Air. Yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, whole thing's kind of weird. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing's just kind of weird to me. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a thing that happened with Tiffany Stratton where

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go into all of the details, but essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could even be wrong on the details, but

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<v Speaker 1>someone posted a video, I believe, on Instagram and it

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<v Speaker 1>was footage of I guess Tiffany punching Jade. Is that right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody had done a voiceover and said something that

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<v Speaker 1>was certainly not right, okay, and Tiffany liked it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened She liked it something, she acknowledged it

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<v Speaker 1>in a positive way. We can say that, okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, people were like what and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they start looking, digging into her background and everything and

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<v Speaker 1>finding things that they find questionable. And so it was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know that there are people that saying

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<v Speaker 1>it was never a thing or whatever, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. And I know this because I heard that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing. I didn't even know what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had people that were telling me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going on here, and ultimately nothing allegedly became of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we had this this tournament here where

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<v Speaker 1>I figured that Jade was going to beat Naya and

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany was going to beat Bianca, and so we would

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<v Speaker 1>get Tiffany versus Jade in the semifinals. Okay, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Jade was going to win the entire thing. Okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>what happened was Tiffany ends up losing to Bianca. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe listen, I want to make this clear. Maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>was the entire plan all the way from day one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that is certainly possible. But coming off this controversy, Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>loses to Bianca, and I was pretty certain that they

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<v Speaker 1>were not going to do Bianca and Jade in this tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bianca moves on in the tournament, and then Jade

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<v Speaker 1>Cargill loses via d Q in the lamest finish ever

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<v Speaker 1>to Nya Jacks. Okay, I don't know, man. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's possible that Tiffany and Jade were gonna move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the semifinals and that is where they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do whatever they're gonna do with the Jade if

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't gonna win, I can't imagine that because of

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<v Speaker 1>something that happen with Tiffany, Jade is no longer winning

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<v Speaker 1>a tournament she was gonna win. But maybe Tiffany and

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<v Speaker 1>Jade they were gonna do the same chair finish or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany goes on to the finals and then either wins

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<v Speaker 1>the entire tournament, which a lot of people have been

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<v Speaker 1>saying maybe Tiffany could win the tournament, or losing to

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins the EO Lyra match. So I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that this happened. I don't know, but Nya, Jackson, Bianca,

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<v Speaker 1>bell Air and this and then Eosky and Lyra, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just look at these four and it's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the finals? Like, what are the finals? EO versus Nya,

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<v Speaker 1>EO versus Bianca, Lyra and Bianca, Like it's just weird.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, Well, Bianca and EO is just a

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<v Speaker 7>really really good match, So you know you're going to

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<v Speaker 7>get that in the Queen of the Ring finals, so

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<v Speaker 7>you have that going for you. Maybe they were going

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<v Speaker 7>to do Jay defeats Nya in the same type of

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<v Speaker 7>finish that they ended up doing, and then in the

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<v Speaker 7>semifinals because it's Saudi Arabia and you can get away

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<v Speaker 7>with this kind of finish. There, Naya comes out and

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<v Speaker 7>does something that trips her up, which lets Tiffany, you know, advance.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I don't know what exactly the plan

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<v Speaker 7>was or if anything that happened with Tiffany threw things

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<v Speaker 7>off or anything like that. But they are also really

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<v Speaker 7>pushing Lyra hard right now, associating her with so her

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<v Speaker 7>going to the final. Maybe you can do that in

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<v Speaker 7>Bianca and you just say, hey, you're having a good match. Again,

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<v Speaker 7>it's Saudi Arabia. I don't think that this is at

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<v Speaker 7>the forefront of their creative right now. I think they're

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<v Speaker 7>trying to just get this stuff out of the way.

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<v Speaker 7>They had backlash, and let's move forward with these newly

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<v Speaker 7>drafted rosters and get some things going that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we've got the NXT show tomorrow. They have

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<v Speaker 1>officially announced that the three way has been changed Wes Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Briggs and Joe Coffee because Ivar was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that match but Ivar is legitimately injured and

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<v Speaker 1>it appears to be serious. And then we've got Jada Parker, Brinley,

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<v Speaker 1>Reeese six Pack Challenge Qualifier, THEA and fallin same thing

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<v Speaker 1>and Naddy and Karmen Petrovitch versus Shana and Lola. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a tape show, so if you want spoilers, they're

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<v Speaker 1>easy to find. Back in a moment, i'msu WeLive.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alfarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike semper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back kind of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently during the break there was like this giant

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<v Speaker 1>debate because you know, last week got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the show is every day, and then someone on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's not every day. This actually is every day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday through Sunday. Yeah, and Jim Valley's there Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrews there on Sunday. And now people are arguing

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really not because there was no show on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're debating whether it was a show on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer is everybody, there was a show Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not live Friday. It was taped and

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<v Speaker 1>put up on the website. Yes, okay, So is that

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<v Speaker 1>is that what we're good now?

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<v Speaker 7>Controversy? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so. Really so, there were there were seven

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer lives in the last week. Yeah, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Swift Bunch, Dynamite Swarms, Tricklin versus Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne in Bakersfield, California. Well, we have got Hook Shabata

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Keith three way number one contender match for

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<v Speaker 1>the FTW title. I want to talk about that one

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, all right, Rodert Strong and Trent Barrett

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<v Speaker 1>versus Orange Cassidy and will Ospray, Tony Storm and Mariah

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<v Speaker 1>May versus Soriah and Harley Cameron.

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<v Speaker 7>Another one just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna run over the lineup that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this in great depth. Kyle o'reiley versus Malachi Black,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Danielson versus Sat Sing Can someone this guy in

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<v Speaker 1>No Bullet Club Gold will do a promo Takesha versus

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's sidel a preview of Willow and Mercedes at My

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite And this is a direct quote. John Moxley will

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<v Speaker 1>be in the building. I wish last week they would

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<v Speaker 1>have announced as part of the Dynamite lineup. Producer Rob

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<v Speaker 1>will be in the restroom.

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<v Speaker 7>Carly Bright will be in the locker room to break

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<v Speaker 7>up fights.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know it feels like we're all piling on

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<v Speaker 1>aw lately, but it's just I don't want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a good time at Dynamite. I really had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time. I had so much fun at that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to go to Double or Nothing weekend. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of this, all right. Would it

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<v Speaker 1>have been so hard for Swerve and Nick Wayne to

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<v Speaker 1>do their match in Everett? Why is this match in Bakersfield?

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<v Speaker 1>Can somebody explain this to me? The best. The best

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<v Speaker 1>that I can come up with is their timing was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to break up the Mogul embassy. It left

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<v Speaker 1>them a week late, and so they shot the angle

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<v Speaker 1>in Everett and they're doing the match in Bakersfield.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, okay, let me play. Let me try to play

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<v Speaker 7>devil's advocate on this a little bit and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say, I know what you're gonna say, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>He got revenge in his hometown by bloodying up the

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<v Speaker 7>champion by doing the same exact thing to him as

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<v Speaker 7>was done in the garage at his house. So there's that,

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<v Speaker 7>let's sense up and it gave him a chance to

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<v Speaker 7>kill Jack Cartwheel. It looked like a guy that is

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<v Speaker 7>ready to step up and face the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I'll be devil's Devil's advocate, go ahead. So

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<v Speaker 1>so break the thing over his head the week before

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<v Speaker 1>and say, exactly one year later or whatever in my hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pin you in the middle of the ring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he beats Jack carrweel last week instead of

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 7>Or he could have been getting wins, you know, for

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<v Speaker 7>a couple of weeks leading into this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then then we've got this one. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest problems with aw I mean literally

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<v Speaker 1>virtually every problem I have with his entire show in

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<v Speaker 1>one match. Okay, it's Hook, Shabata, and Brian Keith. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So last week on Dynamite, Chris Jericho said, Hook, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to shot at my title, you must win

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<v Speaker 1>a qualifying match. And then Shabata showed up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hook's talking about his match, and Shabada says, what if

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<v Speaker 1>the opponent is me? It goes what Shabata goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to shot it Jericho as well, and then Samoa Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been doing nothing except training. Apparently he had done

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<v Speaker 1>a thing since losing the title. He just does training videos.

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<v Speaker 1>He shows up and he makes fun of both guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm at the show, literally at the show as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan. The show ends, I have no earthly idea

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Collision. I only know that Hook

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<v Speaker 1>has a qualifier. Maybe it's with Shebata and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe, But I don't have any idea. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>then we go to Collision and Jericho cuts a promo

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<v Speaker 1>and he wishes Hook luck in his qualifier. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>Hook then comes out. I'm like, okay, well, let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out what his qualifier is. So Hook comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the ring and out comes Johnny TV. I'm like, who what?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay whatever? So Hook beats Johnny TV and they say

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<v Speaker 1>he is qualified for a three way qualifier on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 7>He qualified for the qualifier.

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<v Speaker 1>You say that, that's exactly what happened. Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So then outcomes Shebada, Like, who's he gonna face Joe? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Outcomes Sabada to face Rocky Romero.

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<v Speaker 7>But before he does, they acknowledge each other on the ramp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so he faces Rocky Romero. Hey listen, I love Rocky,

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<v Speaker 1>but like what, he beats him. They announced that Shabata

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<v Speaker 1>is now qualified for the qualifier. Okay, Now, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to figure it out because they didn't tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the many problems. They don't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. It's a it's top secret what the

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<v Speaker 1>matches are gonna be. They don't even tell like the

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<v Speaker 1>production people until like an hour before the show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even making that up. Nobody knows anything. He keeps

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<v Speaker 1>everything top secret from everybody, which is another story. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that later. So I'm thinking, okay, next

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<v Speaker 1>out will come Samoa Joe, but instead out comes Brian Keith.

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<v Speaker 7>They acknowledge each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, Brian Keith, well he'll he'll get killed

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<v Speaker 1>by Joe. So I'm waiting for them at Joe's music

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<v Speaker 1>and instead, as God above as my witness, here out

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<v Speaker 1>comes Jacked Jamison. That's who came out, and he brings

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I'm hoping there are people in the chat

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't watch Collision anything. I'm making this up. He

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<v Speaker 1>brings out with him Beefcake Boulder, who's a big, fat,

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<v Speaker 1>hairy guy, and he starts talking about his nipples and

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<v Speaker 1>titty City. Can you say that this is also a

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<v Speaker 1>qualifying match? What does Beefcake Boulder and Brian Keith have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with anything anything? They ring the bell and

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<v Speaker 1>they have this match. Titty City is a place everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you angry at me? They have this match,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Keith wins. Brian Keith is in a qualifying match.

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<v Speaker 1>He has won a qualifier to be in a qualifier

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<v Speaker 1>for a three way. Oh, I'm like, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>So now now let's break all of this down. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>why the hell can you make this clear on Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on on Collision? It was an absolentce, complete

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<v Speaker 1>and utter mystery. If I had driven from Seattle all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to Portland, one of the worst cities on

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, Oh wait, no, it is to watch

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<v Speaker 1>this show. And I went in not having any clue

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on, and this was presented to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have been real mad. But anyway, so they do

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<v Speaker 1>this bizarre thing. They don't tell us anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody in the building has any idea what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't even announce during the ring intros is

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<v Speaker 1>a qualifying match? They just announce these guys they come

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<v Speaker 1>out for their match, and I'm like, okay, whatever's the

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<v Speaker 1>usual problem. We don't announce anything. It's all a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>You just show up because you want to see a show,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing. Not shown up for anything in particular

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't know what's gonna be on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But why is Brian Keith in here? Because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>other major issue with AW and that is everyone stays

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<v Speaker 1>at the same level forever. You can't do hook Shabbada

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe because you gotta beat one of them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't beat Joe. Clearly, we're not gonna beat Shabbada.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna beat Hook. So we have to have

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<v Speaker 1>some rando when a rando qualifier between two randos who

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with anything in this feud, to

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<v Speaker 1>put them in so that the word the rando can

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<v Speaker 1>be beaten. So when this is all said and done,

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<v Speaker 1>Hook is gonna be in the exact same spot he

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<v Speaker 1>was before. Shabbada is gonna be the exact same spot

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<v Speaker 1>he was before, and Brian Keith will be in the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same spot he was before.

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<v Speaker 7>And once again, nobody actually succeeds being suck to the

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<v Speaker 7>vortex of Jericho.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not even the Jericho thing, dude, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>think about it. Forget, forget it's even Jericho. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're on the Jericho thing. Let's pretend that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>won the FTW title. Okay, Joe beat Hook for the

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<v Speaker 1>FTW title. You do this program here, it's leading to

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<v Speaker 1>a three way, which presumably Hook is going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Hook is in a googo on the pay per view

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna beat Samoe, Joe or in this case

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho likely and he's gonna win the FTW title. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of all of this, whether it's Jericho,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Joe or whoever, it ends with Jericho or

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<v Speaker 1>Joe being in the exact same spot and Hook being

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<v Speaker 1>in the exact same spot as the FTW champion, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been for years. I'll be right back, Deserver Live.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm still going for it. Even with higher stroke risks

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 9>from atrial fibrillation in a regular heartbeat not caused by

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<v Speaker 9>a heart valve problem. Over a three year study, Eloquist

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<v Speaker 9>epixevan tablets reduce stroke risks better than Wafferin, and over

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<v Speaker 9>ninety seven percent of Eloquist patients did not experience a stroke.

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<v Speaker 9>A first stroke occurred in two point nine percent of

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<v Speaker 9>warfaring patients versus two point three percent of Eloquist patients.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't stop taking prescription eloquests without asking your doctor. It

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<v Speaker 10>may increase your stroke risk. Eloquests can cause serious and

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<v Speaker 10>a rare case is fatal bleeding. Don't take eloquis if

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<v Speaker 10>you have an artificial heart valve, abnormal bleeding or antiphospholipid syndrome.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 10>While taking you may bruise more easily or take longer

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<v Speaker 10>for bleeding to stop. A spinal injection while Oneloquist increases

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<v Speaker 2>You were most to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>By the show, Brian Elvaz here Wrestling Observer Live. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to keep going, but let somebody here goes

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<v Speaker 1>if everyone say at the same level, forever Swerve never

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<v Speaker 1>wins the AW title and Roddy never wins the International title.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on a second, we Swerve has the AW World

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>title around his waist. Where is he okay? Imagine nobody

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>has a belt? Where is Swerve now compared to where

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he was before he won the title. He's in the

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>exact same spot. He's feuding with Christian who's claim to

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<v Speaker 1>a championship match is I don't even know. He's coming

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<v Speaker 1>off a loss in his last match for a title.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>He vanished and he came back and put himself in

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<v Speaker 1>the title picture with some explanation about how we used

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to team or something like that. And it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>main event of the pay per view. It's an underneath

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>match in Everett. He was over, which he was before.

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He had a great match, which he had before, and

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the match was he went fifty to fifty with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Cage for twenty minutes. If you take the belts off,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody where is Swerve now compared to But he's in

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>an exact same spot. If you take the belts off

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody where is Roderick Strong now compared to was he

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<v Speaker 1>where he was before? He's in the exact same spot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his mustache, he's got his glasses. We almost

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>never see him wrestle. He's doing commentary, and he's got

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a match coming up with will Osprey in the middle

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the.

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<v Speaker 7>Card for a mid card, but that has been a

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 7>mid card.

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<v Speaker 1>Belt when you have eighteen belts, when you have five

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>singles championships on a single show. I mentioned this the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I went to Dynamite with my buddy, Bo

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<v Speaker 1>knows zilch about wrestling. I don't think he's watched wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>since like the Monday Night Wars. But he does jiu

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<v Speaker 1>jitsu with me. No, he does jiu jitsu with me,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm going to the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to go, Rob's gonna be there, and you know,

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>he goes, sure, we have another buddy who trains nave

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<v Speaker 1>and he I invited him and I was like, hey,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we're all going. You want to go? He says sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So he went, okay, had a great time. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great time. Okay, but the show's over.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>We leave, start heading to the car, and he doesn't

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ask me one question about any of the characters or

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>any of the storylines. He's not like, hey, you know what,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the deal with you know those guys that are

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>in charge of nothing. He doesn't ask anything. We just

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>start talk about other things and got other things he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to talk about. But then he does bring up

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<v Speaker 1>one question and he just stops me and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to make sure we had three title

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<v Speaker 1>matches on that show. I said, yes, there were three

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>championship matches on the show. He goes, it's kind of

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot, isn't it. I said, dude, there's like eighteen belts.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>He went what I said, Yes, that was the one

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>takeaway that he got. So the point is when you

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have all of these belts and everybody has a belt,

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<v Speaker 1>but where whether they have a belt or not they're

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<v Speaker 1>still slotted in the exact same spot. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>if Swerve won the title and you put him against

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 1>will Ospray, a double or nothing for the title in

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<v Speaker 1>the main event. Now we're talking final match on the show.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Now we're talking if his angle was closing out every

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>single show, it was the main event segment. He opened

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the show doing a main event segment, He closed the

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>show doing a main event segment. The show's built around

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy. That's something. Just putting the belt around his

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>waist and leaving him in the exact same spot means nothing.

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Orange Cassidy's in the exact same spot. Trent is in

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the exact same spot. I could go up and down

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>the roster, and you're Anna J's remember Anna J when

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>she was first starting out man few years. It's same

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>broken record. She's in the exact same spot. So that's

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Even worse than that are people that go for titles

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 7>and end up in a much worse spot, like possibly

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 7>Diana Parrazzo and maybe three to deep the way this

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 7>thing is going, because she had a match against Anna J,

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<v Speaker 7>the person you just mentioned, and it was a good

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 7>match for Anna J. It was a good match actually period,

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 7>But why did he go for so long if you're

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get deep over as this babyface? And why

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 7>would it be against Anna J? And why would you

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.760
<v Speaker 7>give Anna J a babyface comeback coming out of the break,

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<v Speaker 7>And why does Tony then steal the flag and do

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 7>a strip tease behind it as Serena goes running up

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 7>the ramp and they'd hold on the shot for too

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 7>long and she looks like a schmuck like, I don't

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 7>get it. I don't get what they're doing. I don't

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 7>get what they're doing with a lot of the show.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 7>And Pac Pac actually said something during his promo, Yes

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 7>that was make me feel something, and aw does it

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 7>make people feel a whole lot? And at some point

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 7>MJF is going to come back and that is going

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 7>to be great. I don't know right now. I mean

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 7>there's things that they can do, but boy, you need

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 7>some jolts to start happening here and well Osbury can

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 7>be a jolt, but not necessarily how they're using them. Man,

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 7>you kick off a show like that where Roderick Strong

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 7>never put him on commentary again.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually like roder Strong, accout you.

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<v Speaker 7>Look I like personally he's such a jerk. But the

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 7>thing is he's a comedic mid card douche. And you

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 7>talk about, like, what did at the end of the

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 7>day the Devil's storyline due for anybody. It didn't do

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 7>anything for anybody, because there was a little bit there

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 7>with Strong Taven and Bennett and they've just been bumble

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 7>Putts's ever since. So I that whole thing I thought

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 7>was terrible. The Bretta Cassidy feud. I'm sure there's somebody

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 7>out there who's deep into it and they love it.

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 7>I mean, look at the post and just let me

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 7>skip to the end because and then I'll shut up

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 7>about it. The post match beat down that went on

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 7>for a long time with Lance Archer and uh Vinnie

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 7>and Dude beaten down Brian Danielson in FTR. Why were

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 7>the Young Bucks and Jack Perry not there to conduct

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 7>that whole thing instead? It's just a long beat down,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 7>and then all of a sudden we get Daniel Garcia

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 7>running out there, and it's like, I don't know, I

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 7>don't know how they go about doing things or whatever.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 7>Maybe these all of these plans ought to not be

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 7>so top secret and they might want to run through

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 7>some filters and put some new eyes on it, because

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 7>a lot of what they do does not make sense

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 7>and it's not very intriguing right now, not to me.

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got a couple of people here, Well we

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>should declare aw No, we should not declare AW dead.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 7>See there, and in fact, well there's the biggest.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's my thing. Listen, if AW were doomed, like

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>who cares, it's done, Okay. The point is they're not.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>The point is they have an incredible roster.

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna make a lot of money soon.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>They have an incredible roster. They're probably gonna get a

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>greatly improved television dealer at least better.

0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 7>They're not going anywhere.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Nobody says i'd say fifty percent increase. Maybe you know, it's.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 7>About what wwe do.

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It does matter. Actually some people are respecting. But it's

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be better. But here's a point.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 7>Bottom line is it ain't going nowhere.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>The point is it's frustrating because you have everything that

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you could possibly need to have a great promotion doing

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>significantly better than it's doing right now. And so it's frustrating.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>When you have all of these pieces, you have an

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>entire puzzle in front of you, a giant, beautiful, colorful puzzle,

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and you can't put the pieces together in a meaningful way.

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what frustrates me. I wouldn't care if it were sunk.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Who cares? The point is it's not. There was a

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>period where WCW was like so far gone, it was

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like all you can do is laugh at it, make

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>fun of it. But you can't care that much because

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's doomed. It is absolutely doomed. AW is nowhere near

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>absolutely doomed. They're not doomed at all. What it is

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is a whole bunch of wasted potential, which is irritating.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, it's not a lot of solutions that

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>are difficult. It's not like you if you're poor. Let's

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>say you make ten thousand dollars a year and you've

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>got some issue, and it's like, you know what solved

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>this problem? If I had thirty million dollars, okay, well brother,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you're toast. Okay. But if you make one hundred thousand

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a year and to put your kids through college one

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred ten thousand a year, well, if there was something

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you could do to make ten thousand easily and you

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing it, it'd be frustrating. Just do it right.

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>This is not out of me the realm of possibility.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>These are not difficult fixes.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 7>No, you're more upset about it than I am. I mean,

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 7>it's frustrating, but it's one of those things where I've

0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 7>been reviewing wrestling for long before AW came along, and

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 7>there is plenty out there to discuss if they somehow

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 7>just poof went away, which absolutely is not going to happen,

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 7>and people that take all of that and go, oh

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 7>my god, the downfall of AW, or when you talk

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 7>about the rating last week, which was terrible by any metric,

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 7>I don't care if you put the playoffs in there.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 7>They had not drawn under three hundred thousand people since

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 7>like July of twenty twenty one. I mean, it's not

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 7>things aren't humming right now, and they're not exciting creatively,

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 7>and it's not oh, wwe this, or it's you know,

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 7>people's bad feelings, that's what it is. Oh it's something online. No,

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<v Speaker 7>they're just not clicking right now, and there have been

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<v Speaker 7>plenty of times when they do, and guess what when

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<v Speaker 7>it comes to double or nothing when the pay per

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<v Speaker 7>view happens, Just like almost every single pay per view

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<v Speaker 7>they had. Regardless of any of this build up we're

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<v Speaker 7>talking about, it's probably gonna be a kick ass show

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<v Speaker 7>and worth the money, because those always are. But the

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<v Speaker 7>fact of the matter is, from week to week, this

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<v Speaker 7>is a tough show to watch. It's a tough show

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<v Speaker 7>to get into, and it's a tough show when people

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<v Speaker 7>leave it to then get back into it. And that's

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<v Speaker 7>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, One last thing before we go onto the

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<v Speaker 1>next topic. Yes, sir, Bakersfield, as of Friday, according to

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle Takes fifteen hundred tickets could.

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<v Speaker 7>Have did five thousand an effort if you would have

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<v Speaker 7>advertised swerve in Nick Wayne.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that, but it better. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>also got double or Nothing, which you know in years past.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a great example years past, Double or

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing sold out boom, sixty four hundred tickets right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean set up for seven thousand and the MGM

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Gardneria, And let me tell you something. MGM holds

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<v Speaker 1>more than seven thousand, like significantly more. Yes, you could

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<v Speaker 1>double that easy, but there's sixty four hundred. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what anyone says about me, what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they do double or nothing in Vegas every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and this year sixty four hundred. That's not basketball, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not whatever. That's significantly declined interest from your hardcore traveling

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<v Speaker 1>fan base. So hey, I do want to congratulate cool Hand,

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<v Speaker 1>Ang and Ruby. So the Actually they did get married

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and a legitimate marriage, and on our front

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<v Speaker 1>page it said they have seemingly tied the knot. They

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<v Speaker 1>definitely tied the knot. I got married this weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>very happy for them. They got their their child coming.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love to see stuff like that. Sleep now

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<v Speaker 1>well you can, yes, all right? Uh, I had really

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else to talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>Just wrap it up for a day on Friday in anymore,

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<v Speaker 7>they'd never be able to work them again. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We could talk about Anderson Silvan Schale Son and fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for a third time in an exhibition boxing match. Holy wait,

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<v Speaker 1>when did I jail is a glutton for punishment?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I didn't realize until they said it on SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 7>So Jake Paul and Mike Tyson is only eight days away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they said.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be damned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's winning?

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<v Speaker 7>I hope Mike Tyson?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a decent chance Tyson wins.

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<v Speaker 7>Look he hit some one time. I'm just I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you seen Mike Tyson train too well?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I've seen we saw Rick Flair tray. Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with training footage. Okay, easy. Anybody can look

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<v Speaker 1>good for thirty seconds or a minute. If this thing

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<v Speaker 1>goes twelve rounds, Tyson a winning It takes a half second,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can knock this guy out in the first

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<v Speaker 1>three rounds. So please please to Paul's down in one weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Please back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>You know, regarding that Tyson training footage, I've been training

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard lately.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, I have been.

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<v Speaker 1>So today's workout was you do twenty full burpies with

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<v Speaker 1>the jump in, the full push up twenty and then

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<v Speaker 1>twenty kettlebell swings with a twenty pound kettlebell. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>do thirty seconds rest, you do the circuit five times. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I did this first round. I did the twenty burpies,

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<v Speaker 1>full push up, full jump grab, that kettlebell. I did

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<v Speaker 1>twenty swings. I put it down. I swear to god,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would have filmed that first round, you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, this guy's on TRT or something. Holy smokes.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt great. I'm like, you know what, I've supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to wait thirty seconds. I bet I could do another

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<v Speaker 1>one right now. But I waited a little bit. Did

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<v Speaker 1>the second set. Didn't fel quite so great. After that

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<v Speaker 1>second one. Did that third set, I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can make it through two more. Did that fourth set,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's been a long time. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>could just quit right now. I was ready to die

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<v Speaker 1>after that fifth set, like die. So that's and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I forrag how long it took to do one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, one round is gonna be three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>for Tyson. He's gonna look great in that first round.

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<v Speaker 1>People are gonna be like, oh my god, he's turned

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<v Speaker 1>back the clock. But let me tell you something. Put

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of rounds in. He's I'm forty What am

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<v Speaker 1>I forty eight? Forty eight? Yes, so he's he's ten

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<v Speaker 1>years older than I am. Okay, I'm ten years younger

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<v Speaker 1>than him. Now, grant, I'm not Mike Tyson, but I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you anything that thing goes past about four rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see that guy's fifty seven years old.

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<v Speaker 7>You're turning forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, not yet. I got a month. But

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<v Speaker 1>the point is, the point is he's got to get

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<v Speaker 1>this done quick. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>do that when you get by the way, go up

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<v Speaker 1>Soho wedding and make sure you check out Tony Storm

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