Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Jack Katy and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: So in the governor's race, President Biden's former HHS secretary
Speaker 2: Javier Bassera has surged, now considered neck and neck with
Speaker 2: Democrat Tom Steier and former Fox News host Republican Steve Hilton.
Speaker 2: Now in the governor's race, the top two candidates will
Speaker 2: advance to November's general election, regardless of party. So there
Speaker 2: could be two Democrats or a Democrat and Republican.
Speaker 3: There's only one man on planet Earth that can stop
Speaker 3: Bassarah or Stire from ending up being governor of California,
Speaker 3: and that is our guest today.
Speaker 4: Steve Hilton, former host of the podcast California Rebel, based
Speaker 4: from our Fox News host and truth teller Steve Hilton,
Speaker 4: joins us. Now, Steve, how are you feeling Goodness?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 6: So, it's on me. It's all got to save California.
Speaker 1: Says a lot of guys, yes, and a few million voters. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's all on you.
Speaker 6: Well, how are you feeling on I'm good, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 6: I'm feeling confident. We feel that we are on track
Speaker 6: to get into the top two. Most of the poles,
Speaker 6: and there's been a lot of them in the last
Speaker 6: week or so, we have shown me either leading or
Speaker 6: number two. That's good news. However, there was one poll
Speaker 6: that showed me third, just slightly, just behind Paserah and Stye,
Speaker 6: a very close race. And so I got to tell
Speaker 6: you and everyone listening, I'm fighting light time third. We
Speaker 6: need to believe that one and act like it, because
Speaker 6: if we let this chance slip away, we are going
Speaker 6: to regret it so massively. Because I really believe that
Speaker 6: this is the year we can stop the insanity and
Speaker 6: get our beautiful state back on track because people are
Speaker 6: done with these Democrats. You look at the energy in
Speaker 6: LA for Spencer Pratt. You see the energy for my
Speaker 6: events up and down the state. And here's a very
Speaker 6: important number just in a poll that came out at
Speaker 6: the end of last week. Fifty six percent. That's the
Speaker 6: proportion of Californians who think that we're going in the
Speaker 6: wrong direction. In other words, there is a majority now
Speaker 6: for change in California. That means we really can win
Speaker 6: in November. But it's only going to happen if you
Speaker 6: get me in the top two. And so this is
Speaker 6: the very important point everybody listening has to understand in California.
Speaker 6: Today is the day to vote. A vote for anybody
Speaker 6: except me just helps the chances of two Democrats in
Speaker 6: the top two. And I'm specifically talking about the other
Speaker 6: Republican in the race, Chad Bianco. I know there are
Speaker 6: some Republicans out there who say, look, Steve looks like
Speaker 6: he's got this. He's leading in the polls, he'll be fine,
Speaker 6: he'll be in the top two. Let's give our vote
Speaker 6: to Chad so that maybe we can get two Republicans
Speaker 6: in the top can not happen, He's too far behind.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry about that. It's not personal, it's nothing to
Speaker 6: do with anything we can effect at this stage. It's
Speaker 6: just the math. It's a it's not just a wasted vote,
Speaker 6: it's actually a dangerous vote because it could help get
Speaker 6: two Democrats in the top two and then we lose
Speaker 6: our chance to change. Please don't take that risk. I'm
Speaker 6: really asking every single person who cares about the future
Speaker 6: of California, who wants change, there's really only one vote
Speaker 6: that can guarantee that the chance of change is kept alive.
Speaker 6: And that's a vote for Steve Hilton. Do it sext.
Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent true. But I don't want to
Speaker 4: skip over the more basic and important point that turnout
Speaker 4: is always small for these elections, for primaries, and it's
Speaker 4: the activists in the one party pixography of California who
Speaker 4: will show up. Those who are milking taxpayers dry will
Speaker 4: show up. So if you're not one of those people,
Speaker 4: by god, if you have ebola, show up and vote.
Speaker 1: I know, wear a mask about and turnout. Yeah, wear
Speaker 1: a mask, you.
Speaker 6: Know, please, finally we can agree we should wear a mask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, Steve. It's funny.
Speaker 4: In my voracious preparation for the show today, I came
Speaker 4: across three articles right in a row about giant corporations
Speaker 4: and or giant incomes leaving blue states and crushing those states'
Speaker 4: finances because they're so unfriendly the business and wealth creation
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Are you how people understand how
Speaker 4: successful business benefits them, not government handouts, but but a
Speaker 4: vital economy.
Speaker 6: Well, they generate the jobs, the wealth, the opportunity. If
Speaker 6: you don't have business, who's going to create the jobs?
Speaker 6: If you don't have jobs. Who's going to pay the taxes?
Speaker 6: Everything depends on that, It really does. I've been a
Speaker 6: business I've been in business most of my career. People
Speaker 6: know me from Fox, but I've worked in business all
Speaker 6: over the world. Most of my career in business, I've
Speaker 6: started companies of my own, including a couple of restaurants,
Speaker 6: a tech company here. That's what it's all about. And
Speaker 6: as you say, we're driving away the jobs and the opportunity.
Speaker 6: This is why we today in California, we have the
Speaker 6: highest unemployment rate in America and the highest poverty rate
Speaker 6: in America, tied with Louisiana. And that's because Chief Executive magazine,
Speaker 6: in their annual survey, described that the ratings from actual
Speaker 6: business people California fiftieth out of fifty states for business climate.
Speaker 6: It is an absolute disgrace what's been done. That's why
Speaker 6: it's really that the heart of my plan to turn
Speaker 6: things around in California. My mission is very simple. Cut
Speaker 6: your costs, help your business, fix our schools. If we
Speaker 6: do that, we'll restore the California dream. Businesses will be
Speaker 6: coming back, and tax revenue will increase even as I
Speaker 6: cut taxes. Because here's the other part, We've got to
Speaker 6: cut the bloat and the bureaucracy. We've got this insane, bloated,
Speaker 6: nanny state bureaucracy in California that's built up over sixteen
Speaker 6: years of one party rule, bossing us around from morning
Speaker 6: till night, telling us how to live, how to raise
Speaker 6: our kids, how to run our businesses, what car to drive,
Speaker 6: what got our house to live, and how to cook
Speaker 6: our food. Enough, leave us alone, you're crushing us with
Speaker 6: all of this. We did a calculation. We put it
Speaker 6: out last week. The total cost of bloated regulations in
Speaker 6: California on the economy seven hundred and forty five billion
Speaker 6: dollars a year. If we cut that out, and that's
Speaker 6: my plan, we would overtake Germany and be the third
Speaker 6: biggest economy in the world. The business, in fact, the
Speaker 6: jobs will be here.
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, the gas tax goes
Speaker 4: up again. July first, goes up another two point two
Speaker 4: cents tax increasing.
Speaker 6: Sure reason, I mean, you want immediate reasons to vote
Speaker 6: for me today. This is what we can get going
Speaker 6: very quickly. When I'm elected governor, we will the gas
Speaker 6: taxes something that we can deal with because the cost
Speaker 6: of gas is not just a tax. It's all these
Speaker 6: regulations that are driving the industry to almost destruction in California.
Speaker 6: I can open up oil and gas production in California
Speaker 6: to an agency called COLGEM. That'll start to get gas
Speaker 6: prices down. My target is three dollar gas. We can
Speaker 6: cut the bloat in the budget. The governor sets the budget,
Speaker 6: then cut taxes. Your first one hundred grand tax free.
Speaker 6: The best way we can put more money in your
Speaker 6: pocket is to stop taking so much out of it.
Speaker 6: Another example, getting rid of the small business tax, eight
Speaker 6: hundred dollars a year every business has to pay in California,
Speaker 6: even if you don't make any money, drives people crazy.
Speaker 6: Vehicle registration. We pay hundreds of dollars a year to
Speaker 6: register your car, your trucking maybe over a thousand to
Speaker 6: some people even attires two thousand. In other states it's
Speaker 6: under one hundred dollars. My plan is to strip out
Speaker 6: all the nonsense, so we just do the basic registration fee,
Speaker 6: which is seventy one dollars per vehicle per year. These
Speaker 6: are all simple, positive, practical things we can get done.
Speaker 6: But you've got to go and vote for it today,
Speaker 6: otherwise it won't happen because with Stayer, the billionaire climate fanatic,
Speaker 6: you're going to get nine dollar gas. He's going to
Speaker 6: make everything worse. But Sarah just the same. He's been
Speaker 6: a career politician in the Democrat machine for thirty six years.
Speaker 6: He was asked the other day the Kamala Harris question
Speaker 6: on the view during the election, Oh, is there anything
Speaker 6: you do differently? Remember she said, nothing comes to mind,
Speaker 6: saying with Pserah. It was on the same question. This
Speaker 6: is seriously what he said. This was on CNN Alex
Speaker 6: Michaels said. The host said to Bessarah, you know things
Speaker 6: aren't great. We got the poverty, the homelessness, all the
Speaker 6: things I just mentioned. Is there anything that you'd have
Speaker 6: done differently to gavin you someone who's been empowered the
Speaker 6: Democrat's been in powered all these is But Sarah says, well,
Speaker 6: you know it can't be that bad because lots of
Speaker 6: people are still going to Disneyland.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we gotta get that audio. That is something.
Speaker 3: Hey, I know, I know you've got to go on. I
Speaker 3: want to put something on your radar really quick. Bill
Speaker 3: Maher Friday night, talking about how Mississippi's beating California with schooling.
Speaker 3: Texas is beating California with green energy. Those are great
Speaker 3: talking points. Anyway, have a great day, Good luck out there.
Speaker 3: I'll go vote for you, Steve Hilton.
Speaker 6: Get out body, Thank you, Thank you, guys, Steve.
Speaker 4: We'll get them. Yep, you got it. Got a chance,
Speaker 4: got a chance. See you're saying there's a.
Speaker 3: Chance, yeah, chance to get in the top two. Definitely,
Speaker 3: chance to actually become governor.
Speaker 4: I don't know, well it will get so much attention, oh,
Speaker 4: because he's a telling character. His arguments are crystal clear
Speaker 4: and they're they're right.
Speaker 1: He's he is a very very effective communicator.
Speaker 4: So you know, is it a you know, as they
Speaker 4: say it used to say in boxing, So puncher's chance, right.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing you learn by getting older is movements
Speaker 3: happen over time, and you get all caught up in
Speaker 3: like an individual person and the analytical.
Speaker 4: Or bowel just I'm trying to clarify her both, especially
Speaker 4: as you get older.
Speaker 1: All right, soon the movement, I think maybe by next quarter.
Speaker 1: Don't rush it, don't rush it.
Speaker 3: Movements happen over time, and you know, you fight this
Speaker 3: fight and he could lose. I hope you hope he
Speaker 3: ends up governor, but he could lose in a close race.
Speaker 3: But all those arguments have been had, and you got
Speaker 3: a bunch of people stirred up, and then maybe the
Speaker 3: next time around. And it's frustrating when you're young, because
Speaker 3: you know four years later, when you're twenty two.
Speaker 1: It seems like you know you'll be dead by then.
Speaker 3: I know, just because I have a couple of teenagers
Speaker 3: and the way they look at the world and time
Speaker 3: is so different than me. But it'll be interesting to
Speaker 3: find out California is still not miserable enough to try.
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Speaker 3: Trump yesterday said he really doesn't care if the whole
Speaker 3: peace talks thing break down. He's bored with the whole thing.
Speaker 3: He actually said that to a reporter, which is an
Speaker 3: interesting strategy. It's a message for Iran. I think it's
Speaker 3: an attempt to not look desperate. But anyway, we'll talk
Speaker 3: about Iran a little bit later. Have you heard the
Speaker 3: story about the plane that got turned around because of
Speaker 3: the teen and the name of his WiFi. Have you
Speaker 3: heard this tho, oh wow, that's a good one among
Speaker 3: all the things on the way.
Speaker 1: Stay here.
Speaker 4: If you're not one of those people, by god, if
Speaker 4: you have ebola, show up and vote, wear a mask
Speaker 4: about turnout.
Speaker 6: Yeah, wear a mask, you know, please, finally we can
Speaker 6: agree we should wear a mosk.
Speaker 3: Did you see any of the bombing in Ukraine from
Speaker 3: Russia overnight? And they're still bombing them might turn out
Speaker 3: to be the biggest attack since day one of.
Speaker 1: The war anyway civilian Instead.
Speaker 3: One of the things they blew up was a Chinese
Speaker 3: electric car dealership, just destroyed it.
Speaker 1: Now, I wonder how China is going to react to that.
Speaker 3: I gotta believe President she says, hey, yo, because they're
Speaker 3: really trying to get that going. You know, they really
Speaker 3: are trying to make a foothold, you know, get a
Speaker 3: real strong foothold on being the dominant car maker in
Speaker 3: the world alone, electric car maker in the world.
Speaker 1: And Russia just blew up their big dealership in Kiev.
Speaker 4: I'd say it's a minor wedge between them because the
Speaker 4: whole attack on Ukraine's been really inconvenient for China. I
Speaker 4: want to talk more about the Ukraine slash rush, Russia's situation,
Speaker 4: Putin's growing desperation. And one of the titles I proposed
Speaker 4: for the show was the Storm before the Storm. I
Speaker 4: got to explain what the big storm I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, and then later this how we're going to
Speaker 3: beat the crap out of Scott Pelly and he deserves
Speaker 3: it verbally.
Speaker 1: Verb You're going to beat the crap out of me.
Speaker 3: And then I've got to lean back in the most
Speaker 3: pompous way possible and put my glasses in my mouth
Speaker 3: and look off into the sky. Oh my boy, he's
Speaker 3: hard to take, and he was hard wax a little
Speaker 3: bit under his sport code. Wait'll you hear what he
Speaker 3: said to his bosses yesterday. This is an interesting story
Speaker 3: here that came out.
Speaker 7: The stunning moment of United flight from Newark to Spain
Speaker 7: turned around mid flight. Someone decides to name their Bluetooth
Speaker 7: devices are in four letter words, so they're evacuating the aircraft.
Speaker 7: That four letter word the air traffic control was referencing
Speaker 7: was bomb. The screenshot shows what passengers logging onto their
Speaker 7: own devices. Saw that device named bomb on their list.
Speaker 7: A passenger who saw this alerting the crew. Flight two
Speaker 7: thirty six depart a Newark Airport around six pm Saturday,
Speaker 7: bound for bottom of the Iotica, Spain, with one hundred
Speaker 7: and ninety passengers and twelve crew on board.
Speaker 3: So we're about to hear from the pilot and what
Speaker 3: he said over the you can get a grand canyon
Speaker 3: that we'll hear the pilot here in just a second.
Speaker 3: But you know how you can name like your WiFi
Speaker 3: or your Bluetooth or whatever. Right, my WiFi at home
Speaker 3: is the bomb, So when I search for it, I never.
Speaker 1: Really thought about it.
Speaker 3: That was just a clever name for when I'm looking searching.
Speaker 3: You know, if I get a new TV and I
Speaker 3: got to and it shows me all the Wi Fi
Speaker 3: from all my neighbors, and then mine is the bomb,
Speaker 3: and I log it. This kid had named his Bluetooth
Speaker 3: the bomb, and the pilot said this.
Speaker 1: We're going to be returning back.
Speaker 5: To doors because we have one passenger that seemed to
Speaker 5: be thinking, Hey, a funny joke that.
Speaker 1: Isn't so funny thrown and it's going.
Speaker 5: To be compromising. The general agents will be coming on
Speaker 5: board and they will be doing a surgeon chriss at.
Speaker 4: And which it is.
Speaker 1: A very serious issue.
Speaker 4: So wow, here's my question. How long did it take
Speaker 4: the passengers to beat the young man to death? You're
Speaker 4: heading to Spain and they got to turn the plane around.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, my WiFi is named the bomb.
Speaker 3: So did this kid name his bluetooth bomb knowing it
Speaker 3: would get picked up on the plane because he thought
Speaker 3: it would be clever or is that just what he
Speaker 3: had named it? And uh so that's two things. And
Speaker 3: then I thought it was kind of interesting. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a joke, but you're still turning the plane around
Speaker 3: and doing this.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just.
Speaker 4: Expected strongly it was a joke. But they got regulations.
Speaker 3: Well I'm sure they do have regulations, but to me,
Speaker 3: this would be one of those.
Speaker 1: Can we put it to a vote to the passengers.
Speaker 3: Look, we got a teenager who thought it'd be funny
Speaker 3: to name his bluetooth thing the bomb. I don't even
Speaker 3: a reason to think there's actually a bomb. You look
Speaker 3: at the kid and it's some you know, you can
Speaker 3: just picture the sort of teenager that would do this.
Speaker 3: Does he look like a there's no do we want
Speaker 3: to turn around, or do we want to go to Spain?
Speaker 1: To Spain, I would.
Speaker 4: Vote bo Uh yeah, I'm thinking it must have been
Speaker 4: like a Bluetooth device.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because at least on one of my things, you
Speaker 3: can rename it. You could have it be Apple headphones
Speaker 3: if you want, which I just leave them named that
Speaker 3: so I know what that's I'm talking about, or he
Speaker 3: can change it to a name if you want.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I was just looking at that.
Speaker 4: Oh man, you know I can see from the perspective
Speaker 4: of a fifteen year old why that would seem funny.
Speaker 4: Oh Lord's son. Bad decision. But you know, human beings
Speaker 4: used to understand this. If the intent doesn't equal the disruption,
Speaker 4: and it's a child, right, you roll your eyes, you
Speaker 4: give them a good spanking, whether real or metaphorical.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Spain.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'll lift myce Angria to that idea. Hey, kid, kid, seriously,
Speaker 4: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. All right, We're going to
Speaker 1: Spain exactly any who, I'm writing the cast in nets
Speaker 1: huh what no no physical violence?
Speaker 3: So Joe opened the show. I'm basically saying Trump is
Speaker 3: desperate for a deal with Iran, and is that what's
Speaker 3: going on? There was a fair amount of news yesterday
Speaker 3: around yelling at net and Yahoo and dropping f bombs
Speaker 3: and telling Iran I don't even care anymore.
Speaker 1: On board with the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, women and deal makers can smell desperation, and I
Speaker 4: think I smell it.
Speaker 1: Is that my problem? So we got no details on
Speaker 1: that coming up. Still here Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8: Here at the White House. President Trump spent his time
Speaker 8: in meetings, including calls with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Etti, Yahoo,
Speaker 8: and the leaders of Hezbola through intermediaries over the weekend.
Speaker 8: President Trump says he's in no hurry to reach a
Speaker 8: deal with Iran. Earlier, he posted on true Social he
Speaker 8: thinks the negotiations will continue to rapid pace and earlier
Speaker 8: and an interview as CNBC News, the President did not sound
Speaker 8: as optimistic.
Speaker 4: Here's what he said, I.
Speaker 8: Don't care if they're over, Honestly, I couldn't care less,
Speaker 8: and added the protracted negotiations has started to get very boring.
Speaker 3: So that's an interesting thing for the president to say.
Speaker 3: Was that designed to try to convince the Iranian leadership
Speaker 3: whoever's making the decisions.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 3: He's not desperate, Like I don't even this is dragging
Speaker 3: on too long. I'm bored with the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I don't even care.
Speaker 3: Does I don't take it at his word. It's posturing,
Speaker 3: I think. But does anybody feel a threat from.
Speaker 1: Him at this point? I doubt it.
Speaker 3: I'd be if he like, really really, you know, started
Speaker 3: bombing him again. Anyway, Apparently Trump was pretty angry that
Speaker 3: net and Yaho was continuing to attack hesblah, because he
Speaker 3: thinks it's throwing off the whole uscending the war with
Speaker 3: Iran thing. And he was on the phone with Netanyahu yesterday.
Speaker 3: And here's a little reporting from MSNBC actually quoting Axios
Speaker 3: on this story.
Speaker 9: Axios has some new reporting on that call between President
Speaker 9: Trump and Prime Minister net and Yahoo. The President reportedly
Speaker 9: lashing out at net Yahoo during expletive laden conversation. That's
Speaker 9: according to US officials and a third source briefed on
Speaker 9: the call. According to one US official, Trump told yet
Speaker 9: Yah who he was effing crazy, and that the Prime
Speaker 9: minister would be in prison if it were not for Trump,
Speaker 9: likely refer any of the Israeli leaders years long corruption trial.
Speaker 9: The president adding quote everybody hates you. Now, everybody hates
Speaker 9: Israel because of this. That's the president of the United States.
Speaker 3: You're effing crazy. You'd be in prison if it weren't
Speaker 3: for me. I'm saving your ass. Everybody hates you now,
Speaker 3: everybody hates is Reel because of this. What the eff
Speaker 3: are you doing? He said?
Speaker 1: Now, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 3: Mark Hauprin's reporting was this is like the fifth president
Speaker 3: because net Nyahho has been Prime Minister a few times
Speaker 3: and longer than anybody in Israeli history. So he's worked
Speaker 3: with I think four five presents, and they've all ended
Speaker 3: up frustrated by Bib Netanyahu in cussing at them, all
Speaker 3: of them. So the unique thing here is that somebody
Speaker 3: leaked out the private phone call, not that somebody was
Speaker 3: cussing it bb net Nyahu. Because Trump did Armana, Biden
Speaker 3: did it, and Obama did it, and Bush did it.
Speaker 1: I think maybe even Clinton did it.
Speaker 4: I wish I knew more about the context of when
Speaker 4: they did it, because I agree with what you're saying
Speaker 4: about the leaking.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a different topic.
Speaker 4: But all of those presidents contributed to what led to
Speaker 4: October third, and that is the idea that you sep. Seventh,
Speaker 4: sorry twenty three. I knew that was wrong when I said,
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, one of them anyway.
Speaker 4: October seventh, The idea that you can negotiate with hamas
Speaker 4: Hesbela Iran and get them to be good actors if
Speaker 4: you cut the right deal.
Speaker 1: They're completely wrong.
Speaker 4: And I think Bob knew that at the time, but
Speaker 4: putting that aside, I happen to agree with. For instance,
Speaker 4: the Well Well The Wall Street Journal's news piece on
Speaker 4: this is entitled Trump pushes to end Lebanon conflict in
Speaker 4: a hope of unlocking a deal with Iran.
Speaker 1: Their editorial boards headline is.
Speaker 4: Iran gets Trump to rescue Hesbolah, and I happen to
Speaker 4: agree with that. I think Trump Trump is willing to
Speaker 4: subordinate anything to his personal interest, his ego, and his
Speaker 4: desired reputation as the greatest dealmaker who's ever lived. He's
Speaker 4: willing to subordinate Israel in a second to getting what
Speaker 4: he sees as the big win or avoiding the big loss,
Speaker 4: in a way that I think is really really unhealthy.
Speaker 4: BB has become completely convinced that there is no living
Speaker 4: with Hezbolah and Hamas and Iran. They made that clear
Speaker 4: on October seventh, when they were pretending for years saying
Speaker 4: publicly like.
Speaker 1: We've given up the terrorism game.
Speaker 4: We just want to govern, we just want to bring
Speaker 4: peace to the territories.
Speaker 1: We're nice fellas.
Speaker 4: And then the moment they saw the opportunity is slaughtered, raped, tortured,
Speaker 4: burned and took thousands of Israelis hostage and bb in
Speaker 4: the Israeli people said nope, that's over. We're going to
Speaker 4: beat you now, and anything that gets in the way
Speaker 4: of that beating I am against.
Speaker 3: So Trump watches a lot of mourning Joe MSNBC. He
Speaker 3: knows that a constant refrain on MSNBC is bib Netna,
Speaker 3: who runs a corrupt government, and the moment he leaves office,
Speaker 3: he's going to be charged with all kinds of things
Speaker 3: and he's probably gonna end up in prison. So that's
Speaker 3: on Trump's mind because they talk about that weekly on MSNBC.
Speaker 3: How true that is, I don't know because I don't
Speaker 3: follow internal Israeli politics, but it certainly could be.
Speaker 1: So that's what Trump was talking about. You'd be in jail.
Speaker 3: I saved your ass et cetera, et cetera, by getting
Speaker 3: you re elected, campaigning for you basically. But what's interesting
Speaker 3: is the media, the same media that loved the story
Speaker 3: whenever that was a month or so ago that net
Speaker 3: Nyahu came to the United States told Trump what to do,
Speaker 3: that he wanted Trump to go to war against Iran,
Speaker 3: and Trump did it.
Speaker 1: We're dancing to Israel's tune.
Speaker 3: We are a puppet of Israel and the Jews, which
Speaker 3: fed the left and the right wing anti Israel people
Speaker 3: and everything like that. That same crowd last night I
Speaker 3: was watching it was saying, and this is the way
Speaker 3: Trump talks to an ally. So okay, you're not happy
Speaker 3: no matter what happens. Either you're dancing to his tune
Speaker 3: or you're not being nice enough to him, which is it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's an excellent, excellent point.
Speaker 4: Ah Iran. You know, they are the living proof of
Speaker 4: you know, sung to and other military geniuses saying you
Speaker 4: must never ever underestimate your enemy, if anything, overestimate him.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Trump and I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: There could be stuff going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 4: it completely blows what I'm about to say out of
Speaker 4: the water. And if it does, I will manfully come
Speaker 4: to you, good people, and admit it. I think brutal
Speaker 4: religious zealot negotiators are playing Trump. They're playing Trump against
Speaker 4: net and Yahoo. They're trying to rescue their surrogate, their proxy,
Speaker 4: Hesbelah by saying, look, Donald, we would rush to the
Speaker 4: table and settle this whole nuke thing if only that
Speaker 4: mean Beebe would stop beating up on Hesbelah. Please make
Speaker 4: him stop, and then we'll make a deal with you.
Speaker 4: And they don't have a single laughing intention of doing that. God,
Speaker 4: I've been watching this for decades.
Speaker 3: Yikes, I'll bet Trump hasn't is part of it. Has
Speaker 3: not been following like the Palestinian conflict and all that
Speaker 3: over the many, many years. What about people who say
Speaker 3: Iran's gonna come out of this in a stronger position
Speaker 3: than when the war started. That doesn't make any sense
Speaker 3: to me, But I hear people saying it all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, No, it's a bad argument. They have
Speaker 4: the shred of truth in it, in that Iran's realized, Wow,
Speaker 4: we really can control.
Speaker 1: The straight upfurmus and screw with world economy. That was
Speaker 1: always that shouldn't make them stronger, that was always true.
Speaker 4: They just didn't know it apparently or didn't dare do it,
Speaker 4: and it was a different leadership at the time. But no,
Speaker 4: they're not stronger quote unquote. They can't project any power.
Speaker 4: They can barely defend themselves. It's ridiculous. More on that
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Speaker 3: you know this. I Joe am not Trump deranged at all.
Speaker 3: When he's right, he's right. When he's wrong, he's wrong.
Speaker 3: I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like he's getting played.
Speaker 3: I don't know why he doesn't go back to bombing.
Speaker 3: What's the main thing keeping him from bombing the crap
Speaker 3: out of him?
Speaker 4: He's desperate to open the straits and get the world
Speaker 4: economy humming again and gas prices to drop in the US.
Speaker 1: And if we were.
Speaker 4: To restart the kinetic effort to bring near on to heel,
Speaker 4: that would postpone that.
Speaker 3: So backs for months back when he said, you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna wipe a civilization off the face of the
Speaker 3: earth and all that sort of stuff, and I never
Speaker 3: believed that he meant that, But was he never ever
Speaker 3: going to start bombing him really hard again, Was that
Speaker 3: never really on the table?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just think he's the number one legacy he wants
Speaker 4: to leave behind is that he's the greatest deal maker
Speaker 4: to ever walk the planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and he sees a giant opportunity, like I said yesterday,
Speaker 3: and I do think this is true. We'll find out.
Speaker 3: I think what he's got going for him is that
Speaker 3: I don't think people pay much attention to this, and
Speaker 3: we have short memories, so he could walk away from this,
Speaker 3: and you know, to my mind, why did we do it?
Speaker 3: Wasn't a very good we didn't make a very good deal, blob.
Speaker 3: But nobody's gonna care and nobody's gonna pay attention. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna get hurt by that. In the polls. Really,
Speaker 3: they'll try to make a big deal out of it,
Speaker 3: but most people don't care. They most people, the average
Speaker 3: person think it's over cool, good.
Speaker 1: Not care about the result at all. That's not good.
Speaker 3: I don't like that you should care about the result
Speaker 3: or whether they get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1: But I don't think most people care.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, if the irgc AT leadership was listening, they would
Speaker 4: be texting right now saying, fellas, we've manipulated every US
Speaker 4: president since we took power in nineteen seventy nine, and
Speaker 4: we're manipulating this one. And guess what we're going to
Speaker 4: manipulate the next one. Ha ha, Well they're going to
Speaker 4: get a nup. Then that is going to be a
Speaker 4: big moment.
Speaker 1: I truly thought.
Speaker 4: Donald J was finally the president who was going to
Speaker 4: do something about it.
Speaker 3: Well, remember really something after the epic fury began. George
Speaker 3: will in the Washington Post, who couldn't hate Trump more,
Speaker 3: said the return of American deterrence. He was so happy
Speaker 3: that we'd let the world know no more pushing us around.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's the way the world's going to
Speaker 3: feel if we walk away from this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the next two weeks to me will be what's
Speaker 4: the term they use in fancy pants circles? It will
Speaker 4: be a declarative, definitive something like that. Yes, that's what
Speaker 4: I was going for, because if two weeks from now
Speaker 4: we're having the same conversation, that's.
Speaker 1: I think everything you need to know.
Speaker 3: So Scott Pelley of Sixty Minutes yelled at his new
Speaker 3: bosses yesterday, like, really, yelled at him, got in their faces.
Speaker 3: See what you think of that?
Speaker 4: He accused Barry Weiss of trying to kill sixty minutes,
Speaker 4: not at all flamboyantly, overly traumatic, and flappingly stupid.
Speaker 1: Shut up, you idiot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it helps to get paid whatever. He gets paid
Speaker 3: twenty million dollars a year to get in your boss's face.
Speaker 3: But get that and other stuff on the way. Stay here, hey, Eddy.
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Speaker 1: My god, that's funny. I love especially Joe. Listen, dang it,
Speaker 1: that's a good joke. You should listen to the show.
Speaker 1: It's good sometimes.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was asking Syria question for this segment. Let says anyway,
Speaker 1: so people in the media love are you saying? I
Speaker 1: want to be in on it?
Speaker 3: People in the media love media stories, So I hope
Speaker 3: this is as interesting to you as it is to us.
Speaker 3: But they had quite the meeting at CBS yesterday, particularly
Speaker 3: around sixty minutes with their biggest star, and I'm the
Speaker 3: only one on the show. I guess that still believes
Speaker 3: sixty Minutes is a big deal, an important piece of
Speaker 3: media landscape, and I'll be sad to see it go.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's important. But Barry Weiss,
Speaker 3: So she left The New York Times because it was
Speaker 3: too woke and she couldn't work there anymore. And then
Speaker 3: she started her own thing and it made a gazillion dollars.
Speaker 3: Then got hired at CBS as the news editor in
Speaker 3: chief and has been doing all kinds of stuff over there,
Speaker 3: including taking on sixty Minutes, which had gotten too far
Speaker 3: from its original purpose with some ridiculously woke stories over
Speaker 3: the years that included, specifically oftentimes Scott Pelly, who features
Speaker 3: in this story. He's one of the lead journalists and
Speaker 3: has always been really hard to take. He's so freaking
Speaker 3: pompous anyway. So, in addition to the fact that Barry
Speaker 3: Weiss is the overall boss, the specific boss of sixty
Speaker 3: Minutes is this new guy, forty nine year old tech
Speaker 3: journalist named Nick Bilton.
Speaker 1: So they knew that this was.
Speaker 3: Going to be contentious their first big meeting with the
Speaker 3: new boss. Before they had reached out to Scott Pelly,
Speaker 3: over the weekend and tried to smooth things out before
Speaker 3: the meeting was even going to occur, to avoid the
Speaker 3: kind of catastrophe that ended up having yesterday. Nate reached
Speaker 3: out to Scott Pelly and say, you're a very valued
Speaker 3: part of this where we respect your passionate commitment to
Speaker 3: the show. You know you're part of the plan going forward.
Speaker 3: Were on board, but Pelly was apparently loaded for bear
Speaker 3: and as soon as they sat down, he launched into
Speaker 3: Bilton and Weiss being unqualified and all this different sort
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: After a fifteen minute fifteen minutes is a long time,
Speaker 3: heated back and forth between the Boss, Bilton and Scott Pelly.
Speaker 3: Bilton stands up and says, enjoy the bagels, got up
Speaker 3: and left the room.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh at first, he said, and I love this line.
Speaker 3: He said, you're not going to intimidate me in front
Speaker 3: of this group of people. I want that to be clear,
Speaker 3: he said to Scott Pelley. And then Pelly goes on
Speaker 3: and on and on about him being unqualified in this
Speaker 3: and that, and he got up and said enjoy the
Speaker 3: bagels and walked out.
Speaker 1: So that's how that ended yesterday. That's a hot meeting
Speaker 1: right there. Wow, I wish we had more time. We
Speaker 1: have so much good stuff.
Speaker 4: So Bilton really did a nice introduction to me about
Speaker 4: the journalism is the key, but the old style of
Speaker 4: TV is going away and we need to make sure
Speaker 4: we're relevant blah blah blah, and broadcast is an ice
Speaker 4: cube that is melting, okay, he said, saying that the
Speaker 4: show had to adopt Barry loves sixty minutes. She loves it.
Speaker 4: At that point Pelly jumped in, she is murdering sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: He said. It's his opening line. She does not love
Speaker 1: this place.
Speaker 4: She was brought in to kill it, and she's been
Speaker 4: doing exactly that.
Speaker 1: She has no.
Speaker 4: Qualifications for her job. You have slender qualifications for the job.
Speaker 4: The changes she's made at the Evening News have been catastrophic,
Speaker 4: So why should we expect any of this is going
Speaker 4: to get better?
Speaker 3: I don't know this big Nick Bilton's guy background, but
Speaker 3: saying Barry Weiss has no qualifications in the modern media
Speaker 3: landscape is hilarious. She might be the most qualified person
Speaker 3: on planet Earth to understand the current media landscape.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott Pelly has mistaken famous for important Those are
Speaker 4: two different things, and.
Speaker 1: He's and live in the past.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, absolutely true, and resistant to change, extremely comfortable
Speaker 4: and very very rich, which might make any of us
Speaker 4: somewhat belligerent to and big change came.
Speaker 3: Oh I left out one part that's very very important.
Speaker 3: When he so boss stands up and says, enjoy the
Speaker 3: bagels and walks out after saying you're not gonna intimidaty
Speaker 3: crowd erupts in cheers for Pelley having driven him out
Speaker 3: of the room, and he could hear it after he
Speaker 3: shut the door.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, So that's what they're dealing with. I imagine, they said,
Speaker 3: I would imagine he's a big enough guy him and
Speaker 3: Buried to out be butt hurt over this about the personalities.
Speaker 3: They're just thinking, Okay, how are we going to handle
Speaker 3: this because we got a serious revolt on our hands
Speaker 3: right Well, what we didn't mention part of the reason
Speaker 3: Pelly was so butt hurt was that CBS had fired
Speaker 3: Tanya Simon, the previous executive producer, and her deputy along
Speaker 3: with Sheron ol Fonsi was insufferable in Cecilia Vega.
Speaker 4: An event that mister Pelley referred to is black Thursday.
Speaker 4: All right, Black Thursday, Ye, Black Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really have time for this.
Speaker 4: We've got some great audio of got Pelly interviewing serial
Speaker 4: liar former acting director of the FBI Andrew McCabe, who
Speaker 4: is right in the middle of the Russia collusion hoax thing,
Speaker 4: and then doing an extra interview about how incredibly credible
Speaker 4: Andrew McCabe is and how he must be taken very
Speaker 4: seriously and Donald Trump is clearly a Russian agent. He
Speaker 4: was so careful McCabe about what he said.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So your guess as a guy in the media, does
Speaker 3: Scott Pelly keep his job or do they decide we
Speaker 3: can't obviously move forward with him there. He can't be
Speaker 3: lecturing us in the crowd cheering, We got to move on.
Speaker 3: You give it forty eight hours, let everybody cool off.
Speaker 4: You have another meeting with him, and if he doesn't
Speaker 4: come correct, you get rid of him.
Speaker 1: You fire him, clean house.
Speaker 4: The ice cube is melting with the all due respect
Speaker 4: to your affection for sixty minutes, which is still an
Speaker 4: excellent news program, and I enjoy it most days, most weeks.
Speaker 1: The ice cube is melting.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not denying I'm in I don't know if
Speaker 3: you've noticed, but I'm in this business also, and I've known.
Speaker 3: I've noticed the changes. Yes, No, the ice cube is
Speaker 3: clearly melking. I'm melting. I'm not denying that. So make
Speaker 3: it a big move to change. I think it would
Speaker 3: be fine. It'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and cheaper, which is always important.
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