1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian day, Doctor, Ron, and it's right to 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: be able to tell to you today than I'm hoping 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I can take advantage of these Saturday two questions for 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: a dime. Yeah, show too, well, it's actually two for 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: a nickel. It's it's two. It's two for a dime. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: On holidays, that's the holiday we even better now ever, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: planning modal West the Highway, that's the best. Okay, okay, 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Sick the car Doctor. Based on your guidance, uh, I 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: have a trusted local mechanic who's probably just saved me 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. He told me that there was a 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: leak coming from the rear engine oil field, so they 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: ended up replacing the entire transmission under warranty. Thank goodness. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Kind of makes a case for doing maintenance on a 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: regular basis. Right, Welcome to the radio home of Ron 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: and Aian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If you're a mechanics giving you a busy signal, 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: at eight five five and now he running. Hell, welcome 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: and start your engines, run on any of the Car 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: Doctor here at zero nine zero zero. Um, real quick 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: conversation Car Doctor Show dot com by the way, and 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: all the podcasting and all the usual things that you 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: guys want to do, and we're glad you do that 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: and take us with you wherever you want to go 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: and live streaming also from Car Doctor show dot com 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: as well. Uh, real quick, I just want to make 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: this one quick comments somebody's you know, you guys are 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: always hey, how can we have so many scandals? Oh? 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Three Lexus came into the shop this past week and 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: it had a problem where it was only idoling at 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: three s rpm, so it had a low idol of 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: stalling condition. The A, B, S and vs C vehicle 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: stability control lights were on and the vehicle was just 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: not itself. The transmission had the laid up shift and 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: it wouldn't down shift prop really and it was just 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a mess. Came to us from another repair shop. They 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: had sent it out to another shop and they everybody's 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: trying to fix this car and went round and round 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and round. Nobody got anywhere. What ended up? I started 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the basics, right, We always we started the beginning. I 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: tried scanning for codes. I scanned codes. There were no 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: fault codes in this vehicle. Nothing, not a zip. I 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: got a B S and vs C lights on it. 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: I got a car that doesn't run worth a hoot. 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Where do you go back to basics? Brother? All right? 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Got a low idle complain, got a stolling condition. You 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: know what, Just for giggles, Let's try and do a bit. 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: Let's try and do a battery relearn. Let's do a 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: reset on the PCM and disconnect the battery, and you know, 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: we put the the the fifteen home, I'm sorry, not 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: the fifteen on the UH or the ten on one 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: rot wire, I'm sorry, ten on one one wire in 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: between the cables and the blee the bembery down. And 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: while that was off, I looked at the throttle body. 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: The throttle body was dirtier than Tom. All right, Tom 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: needs a bet today. He was he was sweeping the 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: floors and cleaning up, so he's Tom's pretty dirty today. 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: But the throttle body in this car was dirtier than 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Tom cleaned. The throttle body took out a pile of 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: crud where the plate meets the boar housing started it up. 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Idle was perfect, idled great up and down. Transmission shifted 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: right Look at this, Holy cow, the trans shifted right 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: after a relert. So whatever they did, they confused the 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: trans and made it worse. And well everybody was trying 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to do is fix the A, B, S and VSC lights. 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: Uh anti lock breaking vehicle stability control. So I'm halfway there. Gee, 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: how am I gonna get the rest of the way? Okay? 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Why can those lights be on with no fault codes? 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Anybody want to guess? Raise your hands, show of hands. No, 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: nobody's got it. I can't say any hands from where 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm sitting. So Tony's got a question, Yes, Tony, No, 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Tony doesn't have the answer, all right, next time you 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: sit in the front of the room, young man. So 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: turns out that in O three, like a lot of 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Toyota Lexus of this generation, when you get a when 78 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: you get a A, B, S, v SC light on 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: the yaw sensor, you know, the tilt down back on 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the front problem at um. You know, the yaw sensor 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: needs to be recalibrated. Recalibrated the US sensor. The light 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: went out. The cars fixed moral to the story. It 83 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: only took me three scan tools to get the job 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: done because this one didn't do this, this one didn't 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: do that, and I needed to go to the O 86 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: E level scan tool to finally see everything I needed 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: to see. So sometimes you gotta have all the tools 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: to do all the job. Point is, the car got fixed. Anyway, 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: Moving on, Let's let's get the phone's gone, because Tom's 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: looking at me going, oh my god, what am I 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna do? 't upset Tom? He's up said enough today 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: being dirty. Let's go over is who's that in Tennessee? 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: I can't read the name? Is that say that? Tony Josiah? Josiah? 94 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Josiah in Tennessee ninety four Silverado? What can 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: I do for you today? Brother? Um? Yes, sir, I 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: was asking. I was curious how I could adju a 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: vow on it? Okay, Um, tell me a little about 98 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: what what what? What makes it? You need a valve adjustment? Um? 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: I trained the head gas skits on it, and uh, 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm putting it back on because I had to take 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the push rods out. But when I was I put 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: put them back on and put number one on top 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: of that center of compression and everything and adjusted valved 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: way the repair manner was saying. And then um, but 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: when I go to start, it's like it binds up 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: in spot turn good. Let me ask you this, How 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: do you know you're a number one position? Well, I 108 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: watched both the uh in taking exhaust valves, and I 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: was watching for the intake to close and I and 110 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: I was watching the vibration damper two mark on that. 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: So both push rods are flat or down and and 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and the balancers in the top that center position for 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: for for number one is what you're saying, okay, and 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: then what is that? What does the manual tell you? 115 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: After that? You can because you can adjust certain valves 116 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: with it in that position. You know, exhaust exhaust is one, three, 117 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: four and eight and if I remember right, intakes or 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: one to five and seven. And then it's the opposite 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: when you're bringing around degrees to go to number six 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: firing position. Is your question more about how do you 121 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: actually physically adjust the valve? Well, well I did when 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: I did that according to to what the book was saying. 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Ye Um, I'm sorry, I'm nervous. It's okay, brother, take 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: a breath. Um. Once I did all that, it still won't. 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: They won't. It won't start. It's like the valves are 126 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: too tight or something. All right, so here, let's let's 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: let's let's make this a one cylinder engine. All right, 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: let's make this easy. It's a one cylinder engine. You've 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: got it, and you've got it on number one, top 130 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: dead center in the firing position. Both push roger down 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: flat right, so they're off the cam lobe. They're they're 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: they're they're down off the lobe. All right, you've seen 133 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a cam shaft. Jo say you know what I'm saying 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: when I say they're down off the lobe. Okay, so 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: now you're gonna take that, and you're gonna tighten the rocker, 136 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: by the way I'm assuming, which is dangerous. This is 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: a three fifty. There's a five seven in this Silverado. Alright, 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: so you're gonna take You're gonna take your belief five 139 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: it's not up top there, and you're gonna tighten that 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: rocker arm nut until there's zero lash in the push rod, 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: meaning that you know, the rock arms got some slop 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: and wiggle in it, and you can spin the push rod. 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: You want to snug it down until it jazz starts 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: to get tight. That's when you're just what they're looking 145 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: for is they're looking for you not to push the 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: valve open, and they're looking for you not to have 147 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: any play or slop where the rocker arm meets the 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: push rob. That means the push rod is now just 149 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: touching the lifter and the rocker equal pressure without depressing 150 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the lifter. Does that make sense, That's what they mean 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: by zero lash. Okay, a hydraulic lifter is a plunger 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: inside of a steel barrel. All right, Do you have 153 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: two garbage cans in the house that fit inside of 154 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: each other. Well, maybe the idea is if you took 155 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: if it took the bigger can and put the small 156 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: one in it, zero lash would be where the small 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: cans all the way at the top of the bigger can. 158 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: They want you to set the push rods so that 159 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: when you tighten the push rod, that next because the 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: next step is tighten the push rod one full turn right. 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: Well the way I don't believe my hands hydraulic clisters, 162 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: but they wore saying twist take my index and my 163 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: thumb and index thing on my thumb and twisted till 164 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit of drag and the additional 165 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: three quarter turns. Yeah, that's it, that's what that's what 166 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: they're calling for, you know, between three quarters and and 167 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: and a full turn. But the idea is you want 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: to set that lifter or you want to set the 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: small garbage can into the middle of the big garbage can. 170 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: That's mid stroke of the lifter, if you want to 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: think of it like that. All right, So take my email, 172 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: you'll siyah, do you have my email roun at Car 173 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: doctor show dot com. All right? If if, if you if, 174 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: if you have a problem with procedure, email me later 175 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: on today or tomorrow and I'll dig up a procedure 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: for you and I'll email it to you. But that's 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: basically what it is. I just want to make sure 178 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: your information is correct. Now going on to why the 179 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: engine doesn't crank over all right, And you could be 180 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: a little loose, you know, you can be a little 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: loose once you get this to start and run the lifters, 182 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: the valves are gonna clatter a little bit and you 183 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: can adjust the valves while it's running. If this is 184 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: a hydraulic lift or small block Chevy, which it sounds 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: like it is, you can adjust the valves with this 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: engine running all day long, all right, you're gonna get 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: oil all over the place. You can go down to 188 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: your local lotor parts store and buy some rocker arm 189 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: clips keep the oil from splashing around. But it's the 190 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: idea that you can adjust it while it's running. My 191 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: concern is is the engine binding and not turning over 192 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: because of the valve adjustment or is there something else wrong? 193 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: All right? So the other thing you've got to think 194 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: about is could you have put the head gasket on wrong? 195 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Could there be coolant in one of the cylinders? Can 196 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: you can you manually crank this engine over by hand? Yes, sir, 197 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I can turn the crank, and but it is sort 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: of tie. I took all the spark plugs out and 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: tried cranking, and I couldn't get because before that was 200 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: the reason why I was binding up before, because it 201 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: was hydrolock. And I took all the plugs out and 202 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: the first time before I replaced the head gasket, and 203 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: sure enough, cooling shot out. I think number one in 204 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: the number or maybe number three and number four, What 205 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter which ones, But you got coolant out, So 206 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: is there is there if you take the plugs out 207 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: now and crank it by hand. Does it crank by hand? 208 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: It will? Okay, So if we if you go to 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: crank it using the engine using the starter, will it 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: crank using the starter with the plugs out? It will? 211 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: But it's still like it's bound up somewhere. So does 212 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: it crank different using the starter than it does by 213 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: doing it by hand? With with a When I say 214 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: by hand, I mean you've got a ratchet and a 215 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:43,479 Speaker 1: socket on the front of the crank bolt, it cranks differently. Well, um, 216 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't really know what means by that. 217 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I know it's it's hard to's hard to turn. But 218 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you what. Just say, sit tight 219 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: for a minute. Here's what I want you to do. 220 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I want you to catch your breath. All right. When 221 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: we come back, I'm gonna get rid of everybody else. 222 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be you and me talking about cars 223 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: over the phone. So you sit tight, catch your breath, 224 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. I'm Ron. Any 225 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: in the car doctor, don't go away for the best 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: in car advice, give Ron a call eight by five 227 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. He'll say, 228 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you there, baby here, okay, So here's the deal, and 229 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I got her. Everybody else, just you and me. Take 230 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: the spark plugs out of the motor, put a wrench 231 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: on the front of the engine, all right, um, and 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: crank it by hand using a ratchet and you know, 233 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: using a breaker bar or ratchet in a socket. Can 234 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you do that? Have you done that? And the engine 235 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: cranks normally? Yes, it will come. Well, it is still 236 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: it's still real. It's gonna be a little hard, but 237 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: it's so. So there is a binding here. What I'm 238 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: trying to establish is there a mechanical binding or is 239 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: this something related to either water in the cylinder with 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: the spark plugs in it, or perhaps a starter issue 241 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: or perhaps a flywheel issue. So you're saying, with the 242 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: spark plugs out, a ratchet and a socket on the 243 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: front bolt of the crankshaft, this engine feels like it's 244 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: binding as you crank it over. Okay, what made you 245 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: pull the heads off? Why did you put head gaskets 246 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: in this? The head gaskets worse leaking, and the engine 247 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: was hydro locked, and it was it was completely alight. 248 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: So when when you pulled the heads. Did you crank 249 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: this engine around and make sure all the pistons came 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: up to the top of the deck. Yes, they did, 251 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: so we don't have a bent connecting rod here. Then 252 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: we're looking for something else that's causing a mechanical bind 253 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: in this engine. It's as simple as that, all right, 254 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Try this all right. If you think it's valves. If 255 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: you think you got the valves too tight, back off 256 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: all the rocker nuts, make them loose. Leave the spark 257 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: plugs out. All right with this, with the spark with 258 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: the spark plugs out, the cam's gonna go up and down. 259 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not gonna move anything, and we'll 260 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: move the valves. Does this engine bind cranking it by 261 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: hand with the plugs out and the valves backed off. 262 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: If the answer is yes, there's something mechanically wrong with 263 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: the engine or in the transmission in that case, if 264 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: it's an automatic, If you can get access to the 265 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: converter bolts, slide the tor converter forward. Now you've got 266 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: just a basic engine, no valve train, no spark plugs 267 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: in it. Crank it over. Does it crank? If it's binding? Still, 268 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with the bottom end of the engine. 269 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then you've got to work your way 270 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: out adding things back, figuring out where does the problem happen. 271 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: If the problem happens when you adjust the valve, then 272 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: somehow you're adjusting the valves way too tight because to 273 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: get it to bind as a result of valve adjustment 274 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: takes I had a bit of doing. Alright, do those 275 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: things cold next week? All right, you, Siah? Thank you? 276 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get over and talk to Stephen Virginia. 277 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Some questions about trans fluid Steve, welcome, you're on the 278 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: car doctor. What's cooking? Ron? I hear? There are two 279 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: types of trans fluid exchanges machines. One just as a 280 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: exchange of the old fluid. The other introduces a cycle 281 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: with some detergent. I think at the DG machine. Uh. 282 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: The detergent runs through the transmission, and then the detergent 283 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: and any old fluid is removed, and then the new 284 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: fluid is introduced. Which one do you use? Which one 285 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: do you think is better? I use the one without detergent, Stevie. 286 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: And truth be told, we don't do nearly as many 287 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: trans exchanges as we once did, simply because the cars 288 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: are getting so much more difficult to hook up and 289 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: connect to. It requires an army of adapters. In my mind, 290 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of the detergent because how 291 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: many detergents are gonna be out there. The detergents have 292 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: to be different, just as the trans fluids are different. 293 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: All right, There's there's probably no less than nine different 294 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: types of trans fluids in the shop right now in stock, 295 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: and we use way more than that. We order some 296 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: others in on a specialty basis. So I think if 297 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the concern is, you know, we want to clean up 298 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: the trans fluid, I think just getting it out, either 299 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: doing a straight exchange or a drain and fill, is 300 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: the way to go. I think if the trans, if 301 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: the detergent has to be used, how dirty is the 302 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: trans and how much are we going to upset? Because 303 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: you have to remember how an automatic transmission works. An 304 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: automatic transmission is all hydraulic circuits and very very fine 305 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: orifices and passageways smaller than the eye of a needle. 306 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: We start breaking all this debris loose, and this grit 307 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: and contaminant loose. I don't care how good the detergent is, 308 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: all right, it's not gonna break everything down, and sooner 309 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: or later you're gonna with trans problems. I'll say it 310 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: like this. I think some of these trans companies are 311 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: some of these fluid handling companies are coming up with 312 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: some very creative ways to flush a lot more than 313 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: just transmissions, I e. Wallets, all right, And you know, 314 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: if if this is a case of and I'm just 315 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: guessing that perhaps someone's going to a dealership at the 316 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: fifty sixty mile mark or an independent repair shop at 317 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: the fifty six mile mark, and they're being told they 318 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: need a trans fluid detergent flush, you know what I think. 319 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that's overkill. I don't know that we need 320 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: to do it that way. I'd really have to see 321 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: some results. I'd like to see them take that detergent 322 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: flush and flush a two hundred thousand mile transmission that's 323 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: been service regularly and see what the results might be. 324 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be beneficial. Um, I just 325 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I just don't see the point. So I answer your 326 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: question for you. It does. In my last time was 327 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: just fluid exchanges every thirty and the transmission went three thousand, 328 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: mind right, And I think that's and I think that's 329 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the key, Stevie, I really do. I think I think 330 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: doing it at that level is really that's all you 331 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: need to do. And in that case, it's it's just 332 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: as important to do it with the correct fluid. I 333 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Steve, and I'll look forward to morrow. 334 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm running Any of the Car Doctor. We are back 335 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back Any of the Car 336 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Doctor zero zero. More information at Car Doctor show dot com, podcasting, streaming, 337 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: and Tom Ray's personal home phone number so you can 338 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: call him up at home, try to in the morning. 339 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: That he loves getting up early going and telling him 340 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the podcast. Should there ever be something. 341 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Let's govern talk to Ralph and Maine an update on 342 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: the eighty three Camero carburetor rebuild. Ralph, welcome back, sir. 343 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: What's going on? Hi? Um? Well, I he did your 344 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: car I listened to the previow the show after me 345 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the follow week and you talked to John from smith Suttletech. Well, 346 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: I made a connection with him, so he very enlightened 347 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: me about those carburetors. And actually what I end up 348 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: finding was it wasn't a commission problem. Okay, well, and 349 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that's why I think when we were having the conversation, 350 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I said, are we sure we've limited everything besides the car? 351 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: All right? Well, the wires that were in there were 352 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: fresh wires, but obviously had a bad one in in 353 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: one and in a group of them. And he John 354 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: enlightened me about routing him make sure they were routed 355 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: correctly and all that. And I did make the connection 356 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: with him, and I am going to take my original 357 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: carberry up to him to put that back on. So 358 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: I figured i'd let you know. I didn't look up. 359 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: I spoke. I've spoken to John on the phone. John's 360 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: a good guy. I like John, oh, very very in light. 361 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: I spoke him over half all. I called him that 362 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: he gets you broadcast with up Aaron Maine on on Sunday. 363 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: So that following morning I listened to the podcast the 364 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: radio show a couple of times because I couldn't catch 365 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: his name, and then I googled him and he was 366 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: the first one to come out by a game of 367 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: call that Monday morning, and we were on the phone 368 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: for a good forty five minutes. Asked him how he 369 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: straightens the carbs. I don't remember if we talked about 370 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: I heard that I with the pizza pizza, and I 371 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: thought that was great. Um, old school stuff. Probably make 372 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: sure I routed the wires correctly and all that. And 373 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I took it out actually Thursday, and it ran like 374 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I know it was supposed to run. So I took 375 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: it out, gut on it, and it ran fine. So 376 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: so wait a minute, you mean you had a new 377 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: part that was no good? Yeah, that's correct. What does 378 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: what does new stand for? Ralph? I never ever worked 379 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: for never I had I ain'ked out all the wires 380 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and put a new set in and it ran perfect. 381 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: Cool beans, all right, Well, listen, I'm glad for you. 382 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: And you know, John's a good guy. You t a. 383 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: We said, hey, and if you need anything else, you 384 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: give us a call back. And I'm gonna, like I said, 385 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make good connection with him. I dug out 386 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: my my original cause he firstly after, do you have 387 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: the original carb? And I told him yes. He said, 388 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: well that's the one you want to put back on? 389 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Said okay, I said, I'm gonna bring it up to you. 390 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean, but the one that I put on his 391 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: running fine. But I'll keep that one as a spar 392 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: and get the original one and put the original one 393 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: back on and get it, you know, so it'll be 394 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: all original to the car. But and I want to 395 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: give you another note. I did find the follow you 396 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: were talking about down south, I think with South Carolina 397 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: is still doing it well. Yeah, and he's listened as 398 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: if you go on to his west have he's old 399 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: carb doctor dot com. Yeah, yeah, but he doesn't do unfortunately, 400 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: doesn't do the feedback. That's what I thought. Yeah, that 401 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: sounds right. Yeah, yeah, no, but he's still around. Ye, 402 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: he's still around, all right, Ye, all right, can listen. 403 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the day in the weekend, 404 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning us in. Yeah, thank you, You're 405 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: very welcome. You take good care. Let's get over. Talk 406 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: today from New York, New York, New York, A heck 407 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: of a town. What's going on, David Court? How can 408 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I help today? Sir? How are you running good? What's 409 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: going on? I got the kids an't working on their cars, 410 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: and my my daughter's boyfriend comes over with a chord 411 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: to do an oil change, and my son's out there 412 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: he's going to help them. And I have come walking 413 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: out of the office and I look and I say, oh, 414 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: the clolant tank looks a little low. And I opened 415 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: it up and it's filled with oil. And I'm like, 416 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: why this doesn't look good? And all the heater hoses 417 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: are swelled up, like from just the oil penetrating them. 418 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: And we opened up the you know, the radiator cap 419 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: and it looks like chocolate milk inside four cylinder four 420 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: cylinder v tech. Okay, so it's and I said, oh 421 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: my go look, it looks like you gotta blown head gasket. 422 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I can't be sure that the car 423 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: drove in. It didn't make any noise when it came in, 424 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't on any smoke, the usuals, you know. I 425 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: tell my my son, I checked the oil. He pulls 426 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: a dipstick out. There's nothing on it. At least we 427 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: know where the oil went, right, right, right, So we 428 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: we put oil in it. We've got some used oil 429 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: in it because we knew it was you know, pretty 430 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: much terminal at this point. So we put some of 431 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: my waist oil in there, fired the car up. It 432 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: was running. Um. Then I did a compression check on 433 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: it had to ten in every cylinder, so I know 434 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: it's not a head gasket. And I started looking around 435 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: online and I see that Honda may have a defective part, 436 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Like that can't be it? Yeah, how could that happen? 437 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: You know? But you know, if it was General Motors 438 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: putting transmissions together, we would have roasted them seven times over, 439 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: been on the front page of the New York Times. U. Yeah, 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: Panda does have some problems with the four cylinders. We 441 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: have seen it also on some of the sixes, but 442 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: not nearly as common. But they've got a problem where 443 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: there is a uh cracks that there's a crack in 444 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: the silver underblock, a casting flaw, and it's allowing oil 445 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: to transfer into the cooling system. So I heard some 446 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: people say porosity. But how do you fix it? Uh? Well, 447 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: it's called lift the engine out and put a new 448 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: engine in. And up to a certain point, Honda was 449 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: warranteeing them, but I think that car is probably too 450 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: old at this stage. It's eighteen going on nineteen years old. 451 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: So right, so their answer is gonna be, hey, you 452 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: got your money's worth out of it. Uh you know, 453 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: it's it's but just like he bloughted about eight months ago, right, 454 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: well he got his money's worth out of it. The 455 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: good news is at two hundred a month, that was 456 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a car payment for six months. He got three months 457 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: free out of it. You know, it is it is 458 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: probably worth a phone call to American Honda for the 459 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: kid just to say, hey, I bought this used Honda 460 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: on basis of reliability, and he's got to make the 461 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: call or somebody's gotta make the call on his behalf 462 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: and explain, you know, my son bought this car on 463 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: on on the basis of their quality and he's just 464 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: starting out driving. I wanted to get him used to 465 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: driving a Honda so he'll drive one for the rest 466 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: his life. Let them get the idea. This is about 467 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: retaining a future customer, and you know what, maybe they'll uh, 468 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe they'll actually respond, you know, but I doubt it. 469 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: I wouldn't wouldn't hold my breath, but that is that 470 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: is the most common thing. Yes, or as long as 471 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: it's engine oil. You know. The other possibility this could 472 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: be is that it's trans fluid, that the trans cooler 473 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the radiator went south. But at 474 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: that point you'd be telling me that the transmission fluid 475 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: looked like a strawberry milkshake and it had engine oil 476 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: in it, all right, So yeah, it's if it's not 477 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: trans fluid, then it's engine oil. And I'm gonna tell 478 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: you that it's porosity of the block or a crack 479 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: on the block, very common for the four cylinder hondas 480 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: of that era. Now, how long do you think it 481 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: will keep going? The kid keeps driving in, he's gonna 482 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna wash all the hard metal out of the bearings, 483 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: and you know at some point have engine failure. So uh, 484 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: you know that's it's funny. The oil doesn't go the 485 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: water doesn't go into the oil, right, right, depends which 486 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: way to press, Yeah, it depends on which way the 487 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: pressure is greater, and how the leak works keep putting 488 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: and you don't well, and and and you know, there's 489 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at this. One of them, shumerus, 490 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: is he the guy dating your daughter, Well, then then 491 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: your daughter can't ride in the car and be out 492 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: laid past ten o'clock because if it breaks down, you 493 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: don't want to go out and get her because it'll 494 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: be late. The serious side is he could be somewhere 495 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: and have the engine breakdown, and if he's running through 496 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: the bad part of town to get to the good 497 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: part of town. He could be in a bad spot 498 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: and be and and be in danger. So that's a concern, 499 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: all right now. You know, sometimes you gotta explain that 500 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: to the younger drivers. You want kids to have a 501 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: good driving experience so they continue to drive. It's important 502 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: and they've got to be safe, all right, David, You're 503 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: very welcome, sir. Good luck, and you gotta put on 504 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: you have to put on your father Dave caller and 505 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: sort of sit down and give him the pep talk 506 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: and try and walk him through it. I admire you 507 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: for what you're doing. Thank you very much, helping the 508 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: next generation. Five zero nine zero zero running nading the 509 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: car doctor. Hey, I'm coming right back. Don't go away. 510 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's right. If you call and we're not live, 511 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: you can leave a message and we'll call you back 512 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: to get you on the air with Ron eight five 513 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, there he is. 514 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: Let's do some emails real quick. Ron on April. This 515 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: is from William Slade. I think williams up in Connecticut. 516 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: If I remember on Mustang to the Ford Dealer for 517 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: an oil change. Entire rotation today when walking to my 518 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: car in the garage at my office, I saw a 519 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: lug nut on top of a garbage can. I don't 520 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: like the way this is sounding, Although hundreds of other 521 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: cars parking the garage, I had a suspicion. Yeah, me too, Bill. 522 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Sure enough, the lug nut matched one missing from my 523 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: right front wheel. But the story doesn't end there. I 524 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: figured I would reattach the lug nut and drive home. 525 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: I planned to then take the car to the dealer tomorrow. 526 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: If you're cleaning out my trunk and getting to the 527 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: buried Ford lug wrench, you ever notice how that happens. 528 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: That's like babies always coming three in the morning, when 529 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: the gas tanks empty, and the lug wrench is always 530 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: bearier than the four tons of stuff that you never 531 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: use anyway, but you have to have because you have 532 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: to have it. I discovered the lug wrench in the 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: trunk did not fit the original equipment lug nuts. I 534 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: gus how to drive home with only four nuts on 535 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: the wheel. For all I know, the lug nut had 536 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: fallen off several days ago. Is there very chance significant 537 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: damage was done? Um? As long as the other lug 538 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: nuts are tight, Bill, I'm gonna say no, the You know, 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of concerns here. Number one, how 540 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: tighter the other lug nuts? And hopefully you tighten those? 541 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, Um, why doesn't the lug 542 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: wrench fit the nuts? What's what's missing there? You've got 543 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: to have a lug wrench that fits and works, because 544 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: otherwise that's gonna be a problem. Um. You know somewhere 545 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: you get a flat. So anyway, that's it. Get to 546 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: get it to the dealer. Le him look at it. 547 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: But I think you'll probably be okay. But I get 548 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: the rest of it straightened out. Let's go back to 549 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: the phone. Let's go and talk to Dan and Delaware 550 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: with some questions about engine life and oil consumption. Dan, 551 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Hey? Hey, 552 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: you think it? I've got a nine of than Toyota truck. 553 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: I've had about two miles on it. It's not really 554 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: using any oil, uh not the particular truck I did 555 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: have a head gas it that needed to be replaced 556 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: about a hundred thousand. Is there a way I want 557 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: to keep the truck? Um? But how do I know 558 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: or how do I get a gauge of how long's 559 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: an engine gonna last? When I hear people say, well, 560 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: how many miles you go to? You know, can you 561 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: get out of an engine? Um? Is there a way 562 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: to predict it? It's reasonable care and caution, all right. 563 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: I I always like to think taking care of the 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: car is kind of like taking care of yourself. All right, 565 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, eat right, exercise. I mean I'm gonna be 566 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the cliche television commercial. Right, you know, 567 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: eat right, exercise, don't drink, don't smoke, um, you know, 568 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do, YadA YadA ya. Same 569 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: thing with a car, all right. We all drink a 570 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: little and we all smoke a little. When I get that, 571 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, we also we all we all abuse the 572 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: car a little bit too. I mean, it's human nature. 573 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: So it comes back to changing the oil, um, you know, 574 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: cool once, fluids, other things, looking the vehicle over on 575 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: a regular basis. And there's no reason you can't expect 576 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: three thousand miles out of the average engine today. All right. 577 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's out of the realm. Transmissions are 578 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: another story. Um, I still don't And I hear it 579 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: all the time that transmissions are going longer. But you know, 580 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: I expect a car in the one fifty to two 581 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: d thousand mile mark to need a transmission and automatic. Um, 582 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: do they go longer? Sure, but it seems like we're 583 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: asking them to do more and more and it makes 584 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: them a little bit more fragile and they don't stand 585 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: up to the abuse as well, if you know what 586 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, engine or even transmission. The when you get 587 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: an oil analysis, are they worth it? In your opinion? 588 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: Do they? Are they predictor? And well, let me ask 589 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: you this. So if you if you took it in 590 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: first next oil change, and you've got an oil analysis 591 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: done and it said it showed bearing material in the engine, 592 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: what would you do about it? Right? That sounds a 593 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: little more concerning. Yeah, you know right right, well at 594 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: that point, but even if you found any freezing, what 595 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: would you do? It's not like you're gonna take the 596 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: engine out and repair it, or you just might get 597 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: rid of the truck. But then what's a you know, 598 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: a couple of year old Toyota with two thousand miles 599 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: on it worth anyway? I don't think the analysis is 600 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: the way to go. You want to use it once 601 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: a year just to see what the wear level is. Great, 602 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what, go to the doctor, get a physical 603 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: once a year. Let him tell you how your blood rate, 604 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: your heart rate, your your and your cholesterol is great. 605 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, fluids, all of them, oil, trans coolant, proper fuel, 606 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: consistent fueling, same brand, same blend, same octane. Uh. Some 607 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaner helps longevity. Uh, you know, and then 608 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: looking at the rest of the vehicle. Don't focus on 609 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: just the engine and the trans people tend to do that, 610 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: and they don't pay attention to the breaks and suspension, 611 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: the front end, and you know, it's got to be balanced. 612 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: It's you've got to look at the vehicle as a whole, 613 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: just like you look at your body as a whole 614 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: and take care of everything. Um, So just keep that 615 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: in mind. Dan, I appreciate the call and the thoughts, 616 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and uh, thanks for tuning us in down there in 617 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Delaware zero nine zero zero running any of the car 618 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: doctor back right after this. Hey, let's get right back 619 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: into it ron and ending the car Doctor. Let's go 620 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: over and talk to Mike and Maryland. Mike, we got 621 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: two minutes. What do you got, bib, Yeah, real quick, 622 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: I got a CHRYSTI three touring and I bought a 623 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: new battery to go in it. It did fine for 624 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: three or four days, but the fourth day went out 625 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: in the one morning and tried to start her, went 626 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: the toad, put a new battery in again. Three days, 627 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: started fine. Fourth day, uh I jumped started her both 628 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: times and she took read off after jump starting. What 629 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: could be going on? Just cover the basics first, Did 630 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: anybody check the charging system to make sure it's charging properly? Well, no, 631 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: nobody's checked anything yet, and so that's that's on the list. 632 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: All right, It's probably okay, but let's just make sure. 633 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: All right, but it sounds more like you've got a 634 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: battery drain going on. So in other words, you trink 635 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: the key out, put it in your pocket, walk away 636 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: from the car. The headlights are off, everything visible is off, 637 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: but there's still in a electrical draw somewhere. So what 638 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: they will what they will need to do, is a 639 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: current draw test, all right. Now, industry standard is fifty 640 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: milliams is cancer. It has to be fifty milliams or 641 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: less to be an acceptable draw level. Now that doesn't 642 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna hook the meter up in a draw 643 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: test status and if they're gonna see fifty milliams right away, 644 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: the average car takes fifteen to thirty minutes to fall 645 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: asleep electronically before the reported level drops below fifty milliams. 646 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: So this could be. This could be. You know, we've 647 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: got cars in the shop. We'll do a battery that 648 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: we think we have a draw test on. It could 649 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: take up to an hour to finish the test, just 650 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: to see until it gets to that. It's getting crazy, man, 651 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: and the newer cars are worse. So yeah, it's now 652 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: now you want to get high tech. And this is 653 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: what I love about high tech, right you'd be surprised 654 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: how many draw tests, Like I'll get into a car 655 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: where I think I've got to draw one of the knee. 656 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: These things you can do is if it not everybody 657 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: owns one. But now they come out with these um 658 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: temperature guns, you know, like the the the A C 659 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: guy uses to point the temperature gun at the at 660 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: the at the heating duct and the A C duct 661 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: that shows you the thermal image. Use a thermal lineage 662 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: heat gun pointed at a relay box and you find 663 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: the one relay that's red hot. That relay stuck on 664 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: and that's the draw. You can do a lot of 665 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: neat things looking for draws and and get to the 666 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: get to the chase quicker. But where you have to 667 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: start is with a milliamp draw test looking for low 668 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: levels of current to see, you know, why is the 669 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: battery going dead after they do a charging system test 670 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: and some basics. None of this is difficult for a 671 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: competent shop. None of this is hard to deal with. 672 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: They've just got to go through the motions and go 673 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: through the basics of the tests. Or you're that one 674 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: guy that happened to get too bad brand new batteries 675 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: in a row, and in which case you know it's 676 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: some You know they've got to deal with the supplier, 677 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: and that's a whole nother story. Mike, I appreciate the call. 678 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: I wish we had more time to chat. Thanks for 679 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: being part of the Car Doctor family. I marnain in 680 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. See you. 681 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: She