Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the
Speaker 1: Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan run Tug,
Speaker 1: but enough about me. My guests today play guitar for
Speaker 1: one of the most enduring and popular rock outfits on
Speaker 1: the planet. Not even several bouts with COVID and slowed
Speaker 1: them down. Their new album came together in the excess
Speaker 1: downtime and four of them by the pandemic called Requiem,
Speaker 1: their fourteen studio disc is something of a homecoming. The
Speaker 1: strip back sound, captured on analog equipment, cuts straight to
Speaker 1: the heart and Jonathan Davis's visceral lyrics make for this
Speaker 1: one of the most affecting releases in years, Following in
Speaker 1: the wake of the Nothing. Shaped by the emotional devastation
Speaker 1: in Davis's personal life, Requiem comes across like a Catharsis.
Speaker 1: The lead single Start the Healing is an optimistic step
Speaker 1: towards a private piece. I'm so happy to welcome twin legends,
Speaker 1: Monkey and Head from Corn. First things first, how are
Speaker 1: you both doing? Everybody feeling healthy and good? Monkey? I
Speaker 1: know you were under the weather a bit uh health
Speaker 1: me recently, yeah, but I'm feeling better now and thank
Speaker 1: God and I'm thought wood and it's uh, it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things we're all having to live with now. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: Mokey got COVID twice. That is insane. Your immune system
Speaker 1: must be like It's like we're gonna test him. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make them go out in the crowd and walk
Speaker 1: around fifteen people tonight. But I got a two weeks
Speaker 1: ago too, so I'm I'm I'm past it. Oh man.
Speaker 1: But you you're both feeling good. You're feeling uh happy, healthy, optimistic.
Speaker 1: We're happy, healthy and optimistic. Yep. Oh that is good
Speaker 1: to hear. I mean, that's so much to talk to
Speaker 1: you about. Congratulations on Requiem. I can't wait for fans
Speaker 1: to hear this. Um. It sounds like it was a
Speaker 1: very different type of album to make for a number
Speaker 1: of reasons. I mean, part of the silver lining I
Speaker 1: guess of not being able to be out on tour
Speaker 1: for the last two years was that you could take
Speaker 1: more time on this album and really, uh focus and experiment.
Speaker 1: What was that process like? Man? For me, Um, it
Speaker 1: was it was such a relief to get in a
Speaker 1: room with my friends and make music. And honestly, it
Speaker 1: was it was like uh. It once we were all
Speaker 1: there together and we were able to figure out how
Speaker 1: to get everybody in the studio safely, and it didn't
Speaker 1: even matter, honestly if we wrote any music, you know,
Speaker 1: because it was just we had been locked in this
Speaker 1: lockdown kind of a situation for a couple of months
Speaker 1: or maybe three months at that point, and we were
Speaker 1: just like happy to see each other and and hanging
Speaker 1: out and catching up with each other. I mean, eventually
Speaker 1: we picked up our instruments and we made great music together. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: when we hang out, that's that's what we do. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a relief just to see one another and
Speaker 1: because we didn't know what was gonna happen, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's been nice me for nothing else a change of scenery, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And me and Ray did not I mean, we didn't
Speaker 1: mind risking our lives for our friends and flying from
Speaker 1: Tennessee all the way to California when they they could
Speaker 1: just drive their little cars to the rehearsal and no,
Speaker 1: but there was it was during the pandemic, so there
Speaker 1: was like twelve people on each plant. It was awesome
Speaker 1: and stretch out. Yeah, no lines, no chaos, It was
Speaker 1: just really chill and um. I remember when it happened
Speaker 1: and they locked us down. I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna be able to fly. I mean it
Speaker 1: was so gnarly at the beginning, and I was like, finally,
Speaker 1: these guys like Jonathan and James Fielding, especially like they've
Speaker 1: never had time off, you know, and and and uh.
Speaker 1: I mean they had time off, but no more than
Speaker 1: probably like two or three months before something else has
Speaker 1: to happen with Corn. And I was like, finally, nothing
Speaker 1: has to happen with Corn and they're forced to stay home,
Speaker 1: which was I thought it was a good thing, and
Speaker 1: it was, but then it turned into like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: losing my mind a little bit here being the teacher, dad,
Speaker 1: disciplinary and all this to their kids. So what they
Speaker 1: were just on text going we gotta go do we
Speaker 1: gotta work, I mean da, So that's it. That was.
Speaker 1: It was like therapy for us, you know, just like
Speaker 1: music has always been therapy, and it was like therapy
Speaker 1: for us. Oh man, I can only imagine. I know
Speaker 1: you mentioned. The one thing was a little bit of
Speaker 1: different than about these sessions was that Jonathan was there
Speaker 1: from the get goes you're building the tracks, and he's
Speaker 1: been saying in interviews how cool it was to be
Speaker 1: there in real time and write in real time with
Speaker 1: you all. How did that dynamic impact the music with
Speaker 1: him being there? Oh, it was such a nice change
Speaker 1: of pace because you know, in previous maybe three or
Speaker 1: four albums that we've done, he's been dealing with the
Speaker 1: other stuff. Uh, and Brian and I were always kind
Speaker 1: of like working um in the dark in a sense.
Speaker 1: You know, we're always kind of creating something that we
Speaker 1: think he may like, and then we're sending him three
Speaker 1: or four songs and maybe, you know, we're not sure,
Speaker 1: and there's this uncertainty that we have. And with this
Speaker 1: we were able to make changes. And he's pairing off
Speaker 1: with Ray or he's pairing off with me helping like
Speaker 1: a chord structure or something. And it was so much
Speaker 1: fun to have him in the room and see him
Speaker 1: so engaged and just I'm seeing him, you know, whispered
Speaker 1: song melodies into his phone while we're in the room jamming.
Speaker 1: So that was really fun and different. And maybe Brian
Speaker 1: and I like, look at this guy, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: Look out? He's like a different person almost, you know,
Speaker 1: he's still Jonathan, but he's just in such a great
Speaker 1: place emotionally and and and it's just nice to see.
Speaker 1: I must be encouraging too, just to see him like
Speaker 1: talking into his phone, putting up parts. It's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what we're doing. This is good, Like it's been sting
Speaker 1: on everybody else in the room too. Usually and prior albums,
Speaker 1: like when I came back, we were always good, but
Speaker 1: there was kind of a tension, at a slight tension
Speaker 1: with what like we wanted to do this guitar heavy
Speaker 1: corn like we would did in the beginning, and I
Speaker 1: think he wanted it, but Jonathan like other genres too,
Speaker 1: and so it was like, you guys, good to your thing,
Speaker 1: and I'll do my thing. And then our producer would
Speaker 1: play him what we wrote and he would go, I
Speaker 1: like that song. I don't like that song. That one's cool.
Speaker 1: And so now he comes in and it's like he
Speaker 1: fell in love with that heavy guitar stuff again, and
Speaker 1: he like sometimes he's like, let's do doom death metal
Speaker 1: right here. You know, it's so awesome. And then um
Speaker 1: and he's in there every day. Just it's like I said,
Speaker 1: he was always down with us, but he would listen
Speaker 1: to the songs that we did, and so with his
Speaker 1: hand involved with what we're doing, he's got more like
Speaker 1: uh energy and hard into it, and it just works
Speaker 1: better that way. That's how we started the band, just
Speaker 1: doing it this way, everybody in the room together and
Speaker 1: and it's just uh, it took a minute, you know,
Speaker 1: once I came back to get back there. But I
Speaker 1: love it now. I love how it is with him
Speaker 1: coming in. Yeah. I love the nothing, but this record
Speaker 1: felt it felt more personal in a way. I mean
Speaker 1: if it more stripped back or reminded me of the Untouchables. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely had. It was important for us to um
Speaker 1: well that that era, I think because at the time
Speaker 1: we had this doucer, Michael beIN Horn, who demanded such
Speaker 1: a high bar for us to meet with with with
Speaker 1: sonics sound, the techniques that he used. Um also he
Speaker 1: made us kind of you know, we've learned a little
Speaker 1: bit from each producer, I think, and we've kind of
Speaker 1: collected all of this along through the years too. Um
Speaker 1: used now today and in how we compose a song.
Speaker 1: And I think Brian and I are so much better
Speaker 1: and Jonathan than at telling a story now in a
Speaker 1: song and what what we want to hear and what
Speaker 1: we want the listener to kind of get out of
Speaker 1: the song, and we never know until it's finished and
Speaker 1: we let people hear it. But for us on on
Speaker 1: the creative side, UM, I think I don't know if
Speaker 1: I answer your question, but it's a but it's an
Speaker 1: awesome what you're saying. Thank you. Um. Yeah, But it
Speaker 1: was just a process that we uh, you know, adopted
Speaker 1: from all these producers and we're able to kind of
Speaker 1: put them all to use in this in this session. Yea.
Speaker 1: Ever since Ross Robinson, producers have been just like teachers
Speaker 1: to us, you know, because they they're in the studio
Speaker 1: for a living over and over and over again, so
Speaker 1: they know a lot and they and we learn a
Speaker 1: lot from them. And uh, I mean, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what each band that all these fans that listen to
Speaker 1: music and every band that they love, if if that
Speaker 1: band didn't have a killer producer, they would sound like ship.
Speaker 1: So producers are so important for all these records that
Speaker 1: the world's are the world here's yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: on this record, we had our producer, our friend Chris
Speaker 1: Collier worked with us and he is so talented he's
Speaker 1: such a great year, and you know, he's had his talent.
Speaker 1: One of the talents that he has he can play
Speaker 1: drums and guitar, bass, He can run the computer and
Speaker 1: edit and mix and I think one of the talents
Speaker 1: that he is really strong at and was telling us, uh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've heard you do that before, and
Speaker 1: in a creative, constructive way where it's not like no,
Speaker 1: that sucks, but that's not a producer's job anyway. But
Speaker 1: you know or I've heard that I've heard you guys
Speaker 1: do that before. Um, can you know, And it really
Speaker 1: kind of pushed us to get out of our our
Speaker 1: comfort zone, which you know at this age is like
Speaker 1: you you kind of dig in and and you you
Speaker 1: get a little bit uh said in your ways, and
Speaker 1: you know, so for him, he was able to kind
Speaker 1: of like, if you want to do something new and different.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to make you guys upset.
Speaker 1: I just I want you to sound like old corn,
Speaker 1: but today what people want to in you know, well
Speaker 1: at the time, but I mean you mentioned all that
Speaker 1: that you've learned from all these producers that you've worked with,
Speaker 1: and this is your think fourteen studio album and you've
Speaker 1: been doing this a long time, You've learned so much.
Speaker 1: How do you keep these records sounding so fresh and
Speaker 1: excited and that that raw spontaneity that you have when
Speaker 1: you're first starting out is because I imagine it must
Speaker 1: be tempting to over over intellectualize so much stuff when
Speaker 1: you know you you you've learned your your studio pros.
Speaker 1: Now you know kind of what you want the sounds
Speaker 1: to be, like structure of the songs. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of musicians who, you know, Paul McCartney doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to read music, and he doesn't want to because he
Speaker 1: thinks that would take some of the spontaneity out of it.
Speaker 1: How do you kind of strike a balance between knowing
Speaker 1: how to achieve the sound you want while keeping it,
Speaker 1: you know, something that's really fresh from your soul. I
Speaker 1: think to uh two points A. Our love for music.
Speaker 1: We love what we do still and be it's our vulnerability,
Speaker 1: and we get nervous every time we do a record
Speaker 1: because we want to do the best things. So it
Speaker 1: keeps us humble kind of like being like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope we can deliver this time. You know it's
Speaker 1: been you know Are we gonna run out of tricks?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna run out of melodies or ideas and risks?
Speaker 1: And that's a combination of the humility and the unknown
Speaker 1: and the love for writing and creating. And I'll add
Speaker 1: to that and say, see, um, we we tend you know,
Speaker 1: we trust each other so much creatively when we Uh,
Speaker 1: when Brian has a riff idea or I have a
Speaker 1: riff idea, or Jonathan has an idea, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like huh. We try to look at it from their
Speaker 1: perspectives and think, Okay, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna step,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step outside of my carverent, I want to learn.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna teach me what it is you're saying, like,
Speaker 1: I really want to understand it, you know. Um, So creatively,
Speaker 1: we've always we've always trusted each other when somebody has
Speaker 1: an idea, and it may feel uncomfortable at first, but
Speaker 1: some of those songs I think of songs like Got
Speaker 1: the Life, some of our biggest songs, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh this feels uh, I don't know man, And even
Speaker 1: like start the Healing Um that song. Uh, these guys
Speaker 1: were like what you want? What do you want to
Speaker 1: do um and then and that's almost a number one
Speaker 1: song though, But it's amazing, like just yeah, having that
Speaker 1: having that trust and that mutual I mean, every time
Speaker 1: we were like skeptical and then we go out on
Speaker 1: a limb to kind of like meet each other in
Speaker 1: the middle, it always brings like an amazing song and
Speaker 1: something really unique. Oh, I mean, Start the Healing is
Speaker 1: is such an amazing track, Such a great way to
Speaker 1: kick off, you know, I was the first single from
Speaker 1: this record, Such a great way to bridge, you know,
Speaker 1: as the bridge from from Nothing to Requiem. The title
Speaker 1: takes on such a meaning just knowing what you know
Speaker 1: what the Nothing had a lot of darkness to it,
Speaker 1: and so starting Heeling I feel like that, you know,
Speaker 1: it takes on a whole new level of meaning when
Speaker 1: you view it in juxtaposition with the last record you
Speaker 1: did exactly. It's it's like, you know, I look at
Speaker 1: Jonathan as like the voice and the leader. Of course
Speaker 1: we're all like, you know, equal, we've created this together,
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, his life kind of parallels
Speaker 1: to these records because it's his lyrics, you know, he
Speaker 1: does the lyrics, and when we came to us he
Speaker 1: was given lyrics to sing by his band that he's
Speaker 1: working with, and we encourage him. Man, right, you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're a songwriter, you're a you're a vocalist. You know.
Speaker 1: We encourage him to become an artist, and he's been
Speaker 1: doing it ever sense and uh, yeah, it just feels
Speaker 1: like a natural progression what happened on this record. It's
Speaker 1: it has a lighter feel with the with the song
Speaker 1: um subject matter, and it's still corn it's still intense,
Speaker 1: but it feels like there's more hope and and less hopelessness.
Speaker 1: You know. Last record was just like heavy and very dark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's how he felt, and he was going through
Speaker 1: it with his loss and and you know he's he's
Speaker 1: healed and and he's healing and and and so it's
Speaker 1: it's just it's what's coming off of this record and
Speaker 1: through all of us, I think we've all had some healing.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all going through stuff. Everybody in this
Speaker 1: world is if you're not going through something really heavy,
Speaker 1: then it's coming around the corner. So you know, we're
Speaker 1: all in this together. Yeah, And you know, one of
Speaker 1: the things I wanted to say, well, that's on my
Speaker 1: mind is UM when early records, when you know you
Speaker 1: have ross and and he's teaching us this on then
Speaker 1: in particular, he's teaching all of us how to sort
Speaker 1: of express this anger and this and lay your your
Speaker 1: your heart on your sleeve and that's how you make
Speaker 1: a great record. And when we didn't quite understand that
Speaker 1: UM in the beginning, but uh, seeing him work with
Speaker 1: Jonathan on some of those early albums and him opening
Speaker 1: up and being able to access the that hurt and
Speaker 1: pain throughout the albums, throughout each album, UM has been
Speaker 1: such a strength for our our band UM and it's
Speaker 1: longevity and I really feel like Jonathan helped kick the
Speaker 1: door open for people to talk about mental health. And
Speaker 1: I don't think at the time, I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people were talking about that. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people gravitated probably towards the band because they felt
Speaker 1: like they weren't alone and here's somebody that's just laying
Speaker 1: their heart out for everybody and exposing his, uh, his
Speaker 1: inner demons and and you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: was they were able to relate to that. And now
Speaker 1: twenty some years later, UM, you know, I can see
Speaker 1: the progression of you know, people open and willing to
Speaker 1: talk about like when they're not okay, you know, so
Speaker 1: I I definitely feel like he helped pioneer that you
Speaker 1: know early yep, oh absolutely, I mean your music has
Speaker 1: helped a tremendous amount of people. Is there something that
Speaker 1: a fan can say to you where you think, you
Speaker 1: know what, I I know that the hell that went
Speaker 1: into this song and now all hard it was for
Speaker 1: all of us. But you know what, hearing this fans
Speaker 1: say this to me makes it worth it? Or is
Speaker 1: that something that is that a validation you can even
Speaker 1: get externally? Is it just something in you having put
Speaker 1: that song out in the world. And there's no one
Speaker 1: thing that a fan can say, I mean for when
Speaker 1: they if they come up to us and say, you
Speaker 1: know this song or you guys helped save my life.
Speaker 1: You know, we get that more often than not, you
Speaker 1: know lately. Um, It's it's just you know, when we
Speaker 1: were kids, we grew up and we're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to be rock stars and make music and songs
Speaker 1: and tour all over the world. But we didn't know
Speaker 1: we were gonna have this extra golden caveat that you
Speaker 1: know that having Jonathan able to access and and put
Speaker 1: out his his heart that this this was gonna be
Speaker 1: an extra like added icing on this cake, you know,
Speaker 1: to help people. So we're so grateful for that on
Speaker 1: top of everything. Yeah, they're they're just the depth on
Speaker 1: these tracks. It's such an amazing album. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite tracks is Lost in the Grandeur. I love the
Speaker 1: dynamics at play when it speeds up and slows down.
Speaker 1: And I think you said that the riff has been
Speaker 1: around for a while. How did it finally find a
Speaker 1: home on on this record. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: think you know, Hed and I. We've been trying to
Speaker 1: get this uh this song in this riff, which is
Speaker 1: the scratchy guitar thing. UM. We've tried it on a
Speaker 1: couple of albums, but we never really knew where to
Speaker 1: take the song from there. And then we found this
Speaker 1: uh this verse idea which totally turns left and then
Speaker 1: builds up into this really melodic chorus. I think the
Speaker 1: chorus came first, and once we once we had that,
Speaker 1: we knew we had found found a home for the
Speaker 1: song and a record for it to be on. UM.
Speaker 1: But oh man, it's it's definitely one of my favorite
Speaker 1: songs on the on the record, you know what this is?
Speaker 1: This is what happened last record. We had it and
Speaker 1: it was good and it it was didn't get kicked out,
Speaker 1: but it just didn't get recorded vocally. And we listened
Speaker 1: to it this record and we were like, what it
Speaker 1: sounds cool. Let's why didn't we use it? It's really cool.
Speaker 1: And then at the last minute we recorded a new chorus. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're like, We're like, the course is why it's it's stumped.
Speaker 1: So we put a new chorus on it and it
Speaker 1: changed everything. What is it like between the two of
Speaker 1: you when you're working on guitar parts? How do you
Speaker 1: divide up the roles between you both? Do you start
Speaker 1: with the rhythm and then embroider it with some melody
Speaker 1: or or is it just different every time? It's pretty
Speaker 1: different every time, which makes it fun and challenge. This
Speaker 1: guy is always challenging me every I can think. I
Speaker 1: can actually I could think all the way back to
Speaker 1: like high school when he's just playing all these killer
Speaker 1: RIfS and I'm like, how do you play that? What
Speaker 1: do you do? How are you doing that? And the
Speaker 1: court is that? And I'm still doing it today even
Speaker 1: with all of this new stuff through the albums. But um,
Speaker 1: I think it comes organically, like he'll write something or
Speaker 1: we would kind of write stuff on the spot when
Speaker 1: we're in the rehearsal or the writing room, and if
Speaker 1: I write something, he'll add to it or he'll help
Speaker 1: make it better, um and make it feel like it's
Speaker 1: actually there's a beginning and the end to the riff.
Speaker 1: And if I'm writing something that or he'll add a
Speaker 1: really killer melody that just brings out the chords and everything. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's just an organic process. Really. I feel like
Speaker 1: lately it's been this guy coming up with stuff. He's
Speaker 1: like a machine. It's I mean, I'll have my moments too,
Speaker 1: of course, but every day I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: another one, another one, and uh yeah, it's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: cool to see because every record is different, right man,
Speaker 1: and we just we just want the best song that's it,
Speaker 1: and we don't care who writes it, you know, we don't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Freaking Chris, the producer, we come in and he's
Speaker 1: bored because we we roll in at two pm and
Speaker 1: he's up at freaking seven. And it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I was just fendling around with this and then we'll
Speaker 1: change it a little bit, make it, you know, our
Speaker 1: own or whatever. It's just like we have a friend
Speaker 1: that that had a a writing thing on one of
Speaker 1: the songs. You know, we're just we like to collaborate nowadays.
Speaker 1: Before it was you know, it's mostly us obviously, like,
Speaker 1: but we don't mind collaborating once in a while too
Speaker 1: with whether it's a producer or or another writer or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, a friend of ours that that we've known
Speaker 1: for years. It's fun that way. I think I'm speaking
Speaker 1: of the production. Mean you you use a lot of
Speaker 1: analog techniques when recording this record, of recording right to tape.
Speaker 1: What was that? Like? That's really added? You can you
Speaker 1: can sense just like there's a whole level of warmth
Speaker 1: I feel like in the sound on this thing is
Speaker 1: really apparent. Just I mean, I love all those old
Speaker 1: two vamps and stuff like that. And is that really
Speaker 1: a game changer for you when you're working on this record?
Speaker 1: You know, Hen and I were we are old school
Speaker 1: when it comes to our amps, setups and our guitars
Speaker 1: and the way we like things. And you know, for
Speaker 1: like amp modelers that they have those are great for
Speaker 1: when we do overdubs because you can get kind of
Speaker 1: like this nice little sparkly over dub and stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: But when we set up our tape machine in the
Speaker 1: studio this time, there was just this kind of nostalgia
Speaker 1: that when we saw the red lights on and the
Speaker 1: reels rolling where like, this is what feels like. It's
Speaker 1: because we know it's gonna be challenging. It's that you
Speaker 1: can't really edit too much in the you know, right
Speaker 1: away anyways, you gotta kind of like nail it um
Speaker 1: as far as especially for Ray, you know, because he's
Speaker 1: got to get it one or two takes. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's no there's not you can't really edit drums
Speaker 1: as easily as you can vocals or guitar. So but
Speaker 1: just seeing the the red lights and and everything and
Speaker 1: and the reels rolling on there, it was just like
Speaker 1: this is fun and exciting. It just it brought an
Speaker 1: extra layer of not only warmth sonically, but just like
Speaker 1: it just did something like a good we have good
Speaker 1: memories attached to those visuals of these types of equipment
Speaker 1: big time. Another standout on the record for me was
Speaker 1: hopeless and beaten. Uh. To me, it's just such a
Speaker 1: it's a different vibe. I feel like from so many
Speaker 1: of the other tracks on Requiem. I love the juxtaposition
Speaker 1: between the darkness of the verses and then the really
Speaker 1: bright melodic chorus is Uh, it's just so potent and haunting.
Speaker 1: Can you talk more about that song. It's so cinematic
Speaker 1: to me, that's on that song. That's the two one
Speaker 1: of my old Man. There's so many of my favorite moments.
Speaker 1: But me too, I mind changed, like every other day.
Speaker 1: My my favorite song changes. I'd say the bridge parts
Speaker 1: on these on these songs are my favorite. On um
Speaker 1: Hopeless and Beaten, that bridge it's like something we've never done,
Speaker 1: and it's like it makes me feel something powerful when
Speaker 1: I hear that, it's like it's so melodic. And then
Speaker 1: Janet John has just like background vocals where he's just going,
Speaker 1: oh so good and he says nothing soothes the hurting
Speaker 1: only time, and it's just like he meant that lyrics
Speaker 1: so much, you know, because he's been through so much
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. And and uh, and
Speaker 1: then the heaviness of it, it's like we were thinking,
Speaker 1: let's do a doom metal death yeah style. But on
Speaker 1: the flip side, I had the most melodic and hopeful
Speaker 1: sounding bridge ever and so one of my favorites. And
Speaker 1: and another one is let the darker the rest has
Speaker 1: that bridge to that's just something that corn doesn't do.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's and it's so refreshing and and it's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moments. And then the other one
Speaker 1: is the Worst is on its way the bridge. It's
Speaker 1: just like it just makes me just want to rip
Speaker 1: people's face off. Yeah, it does get it gets down
Speaker 1: and and like grinding, kind of sludgy. It's funny. The
Speaker 1: first one, I'm hopeless and beaten, like the head was saying. Uh.
Speaker 1: We started out with that song because we wanted this
Speaker 1: kind of this epic intro with these big chords and
Speaker 1: like a cinematic type of thing. Uh. And then when
Speaker 1: you get to you get to the bridge portion of
Speaker 1: that song, it's um. We we were like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: go eat deeper and darker with the with the guitars,
Speaker 1: and I remember it was feeling like this dark death
Speaker 1: metal thing and then as soon as we heard the
Speaker 1: lyric or the vocals on it were like what the
Speaker 1: it changed like it just got like this dark melody
Speaker 1: that was just it changed the whole the whole vibe
Speaker 1: of the song and and brought it up to just
Speaker 1: a higher bar that we were like whoa, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were thinking to take it heavier and like darker and
Speaker 1: yeah and and but it ended up more melodic and
Speaker 1: with his vocals nona no no, no no no all
Speaker 1: that man. You know, it was like beautiful from a
Speaker 1: from like this crazy thing that we wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: It flipped and it made it even better than we
Speaker 1: were thinking. So go wait, way to go j d Oh.
Speaker 1: I mean I could just see I hope you do
Speaker 1: a video for that song because it just seems so
Speaker 1: made for it. It is so big and cinematic. I
Speaker 1: could just see a movie playing in my head or
Speaker 1: listen to it. I hope. Is there any plans to
Speaker 1: do one at this point or not yet? Well, we
Speaker 1: keep going back and forth because, like I said, different
Speaker 1: people have you know, within the band and and uh
Speaker 1: in our management and label. They're like, oh, we should
Speaker 1: do a video for this song, and then the next
Speaker 1: week's like, oh my gosh, everyone loves this song, we
Speaker 1: should do it. I mean, we might end up doing
Speaker 1: videos for maybe most of the album, because right it's
Speaker 1: just so good I feel like I think there was
Speaker 1: any of you. Jonathan Gabory said that it was recording
Speaker 1: this record was the best experience that he'd had making
Speaker 1: an album. Do you guys agree with that? Was it
Speaker 1: similarly fun for you? Wow? That's amazing. I think he probably, uh,
Speaker 1: just because he's so present, you know, he's so in
Speaker 1: a different mindspace. I'm glad that. You know. He told
Speaker 1: us yesterday actually he's like, I can't do it. I
Speaker 1: can't make a record any other way. Now. I have
Speaker 1: to be there when you guys are writing fun. And
Speaker 1: we were at rehearsal yesterday and he was He was
Speaker 1: just telling us that because after we were rehearsing the
Speaker 1: new songs and we after we finished it, he was
Speaker 1: like that. We were like, oh my god, felt so
Speaker 1: good to pass. And they were ye asking each other
Speaker 1: like how do we write that? Yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: relearn the things that we that we wrote. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes a minute. And uh. Also, Jonathan, what he did
Speaker 1: that he's probably loving as well, is that he there's
Speaker 1: no sense on this record at all. If you if
Speaker 1: you think you're hearing sense, it's his vocals because or
Speaker 1: the guitar effects layer car he's done a symphony of
Speaker 1: vocals on this record, and it sounds like a sense
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. Like just yesterday we're at rehearsal and
Speaker 1: he showed me we're we're listening to the tracks of
Speaker 1: the song like separated, he goes. I go, I always
Speaker 1: thought that was a sin or some kind of a
Speaker 1: trick he did. It's like yeah, him, yeah, it him.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you can't start the healing when you hear
Speaker 1: the build a part. Uh. You always remember there was
Speaker 1: a joke inside joke that we uh used to play
Speaker 1: around and Brian used to do this thing Ali, he goes, h.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of this funny thing that Brian used
Speaker 1: to do it, and I was like, oh, that's him,
Speaker 1: you know, but you think it's a sin totally. It
Speaker 1: sounds like that. I thought it was this whole time.
Speaker 1: I thought it was what it's him. I think when
Speaker 1: we started also, it was like this quick conversation literally
Speaker 1: like ten seconds, like you know, we should probably just
Speaker 1: keep only us like the corn like you know, not
Speaker 1: have any programming and just guitar, bassed, drums, vocals and
Speaker 1: that's it. And we're just like, yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: great idea. We should just do that and not have
Speaker 1: anybody outside and you know, cluttered up with too much programming,
Speaker 1: and you know, let's just keep it to the core.
Speaker 1: And I feel like we we stay true to our
Speaker 1: our our wishes at that. You know, you must be
Speaker 1: rare and to get back out there and play these
Speaker 1: for fans with uh, what is next for you after this?
Speaker 1: Uh this album comes up, I'm gonna take a nap, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're getting ready to you know, spread the word
Speaker 1: and we're a lot of work women, you know, just rehearsing,
Speaker 1: Like we just released the information about our events coming
Speaker 1: up with the UM about the Yeah, the wreck we
Speaker 1: amath So we've been massively rehearsing for that and a
Speaker 1: lot of work. So we're gonna do these shows that
Speaker 1: just uh and we have we have a get get
Speaker 1: ready for the March tour, March Tour with Chevelle and
Speaker 1: Code Orange, Code Thank You and UM and then we
Speaker 1: have plans to do there's a festival in May. I
Speaker 1: think it's Welcome to Rockville and that's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I saw the bill on that. It's like food fighters, kids,
Speaker 1: guns and roses corn. Yes, that's a good mix of
Speaker 1: bands to be associated with, right, and that was that
Speaker 1: was nice to be you know, included with such heavy
Speaker 1: weights like that. Yeah, it's it's uh, it feels like
Speaker 1: a new era for the band. For sure. We're entering
Speaker 1: into a you know, the stuff we've always dreamed about. Um,
Speaker 1: but after that we'll go to We're gonna go to
Speaker 1: Europe and do some big festivals and some our own shows,
Speaker 1: and then in the summer probably back in the States.
Speaker 1: At at some point we got a full year of
Speaker 1: you know, we got a lot of We've got a
Speaker 1: lot of fans we need to go see. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, it's gotta be really great to be
Speaker 1: back out there and actually make that connection in person.
Speaker 1: I know you had that amazing virtual concert monumental, but
Speaker 1: I know that probably is no substitute for the real
Speaker 1: thing for you guys. Yeah, just connecting with people. I
Speaker 1: feel like that is you know, one of our our
Speaker 1: strong points I think is as the live show, it
Speaker 1: really connects people to not only did any band, but
Speaker 1: with Corn We've always we've toured so much and um,
Speaker 1: they get to be there as we recreate these albums
Speaker 1: and songs and feel like just that it just it's
Speaker 1: very sort of primal, kind of a tribal experience. You know,
Speaker 1: when you come to a corn show, it's raw emotion,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh man, we can't wait to get you
Speaker 1: back out there and see you soon. Thank you so
Speaker 1: so much for your music in your time today. It
Speaker 1: really means the world to me. Thank you so very much.
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