Speaker 1: Okay, we are taking it back to the early Jersey days.
Speaker 1: Teresa and Jacqueline get an invite they can't refuse, but
Speaker 1: worlds collide and tempers flair when they come face to
Speaker 1: face with Danielle, fashion designer, actor, singer, and host of
Speaker 1: the podcast Hello Isaac. Isaac Msrahi joins me to break
Speaker 1: down this episode. His new podcast, Hello Isaac is on
Speaker 1: iHeart and wherever podcasts are, and it's doing really well.
Speaker 1: This is Real Housewives of New Jersey Season two, episode nine,
Speaker 1: posh spite. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: We're doing rewise. Tell me you watched it.
Speaker 3: I did, of course, Okay, I watched it.
Speaker 2: Had you seen it in the beginning.
Speaker 3: Of course I had. You know, I used to follow Jersey.
Speaker 3: I don't really follow it anymore. I guess I could
Speaker 3: because it's really fun and funny, but I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't think I really liked it in those days.
Speaker 3: I think you know what it was. I swear to you.
Speaker 3: I think there was something about Carolyn Manzo that was
Speaker 3: so charming that kind of like pulled the whole thing together,
Speaker 3: Like she was a She was a steadying presence in that.
Speaker 2: Show, maternal figure yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when she kind of took her leave of
Speaker 3: the thing, I started to like lose my interest. It's
Speaker 3: like Nini leaks when she was off of I don't
Speaker 3: know why, Like I can't watch Atlanta anymore. You say,
Speaker 3: live for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It was the best one when when Cher said, who
Speaker 1: going to check me booth? And I said to Andy
Speaker 1: when he fired her, I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: are you doing? And they brought her back later I
Speaker 1: was like, what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck are you actually?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Nanie's probably the most iconic housewife
Speaker 2: of all.
Speaker 3: She is an iconic aside from you.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So no, But so here's the thing, So I want
Speaker 1: to know where you are in this now because I,
Speaker 1: first of all, I watched this episode with you and
Speaker 1: mind like thinking about what you would be thinking. So
Speaker 1: we'll get into that. But then the world of housewives,
Speaker 1: which is so cluttered and crowded, and when we started,
Speaker 1: and when I started on it, they were just a
Speaker 1: one franchise, then two that it was really like Jersey.
Speaker 2: It was New York.
Speaker 1: I know, Orange County started, but who cares? And they're
Speaker 1: good and it's entertaining but New York. Ramona is right
Speaker 1: when she says, yes, uneloquently that New York did put
Speaker 1: the Housewives on the map because of the media, not
Speaker 1: because of the people.
Speaker 2: The media.
Speaker 3: And also, Darling, we're from New York, so we're gonna
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, but it did. It became It was like
Speaker 2: a nice, campy show.
Speaker 1: And then New York came on TV and we were
Speaker 1: in the city of the media, so there was more
Speaker 1: coverage because socialites in New York were more were pissed
Speaker 1: off that people like Jill Zaron were saying she runs
Speaker 1: with a fabulous circle of people.
Speaker 2: They were really annoyed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exact.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it like provoked.
Speaker 1: New York magazine. So but where So what's your relationship
Speaker 1: to the entire franchise now?
Speaker 3: Of the Housewives entirely? I watch see I do, stopped
Speaker 3: and I started again about two years ago or more recently,
Speaker 3: I watched that. I will never miss an episode of
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills because it's so fascinating. No, I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: I live for those girls, and I know some of them.
Speaker 3: I know Kyle a little bit, and I know Rina
Speaker 3: a lot. I know Na a lot from QC. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna miss her, boy, I'm going to miss her
Speaker 3: on that show. And what don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just find it so And also the clothes, at
Speaker 3: least you you know what the clothes are or are
Speaker 3: trying to be on that show, whereas like on these
Speaker 3: other shows, Oh my god, the clothes, it's like, where
Speaker 3: do they come from? A I think.
Speaker 1: It's well, a couple of things. I know you hate
Speaker 1: the Burkins, and particularly the small one so Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: is fraught with.
Speaker 3: So I hate them. I absolutely love them. I just
Speaker 3: I hate what's happened to the whole symbol of the Burkin.
Speaker 3: It's like, exactly, it's so everyone and it's so shrunken.
Speaker 3: It's so like like when they shrink it down or
Speaker 3: like it. It's so pale by comparison to the rest
Speaker 3: of the clothes these bitches are wearing, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like, wait a minute now, if you
Speaker 3: if you know, wearing Darling, yes, you're be littling it.
Speaker 3: If you're Caroline Kennedy, right, and you're wearing a T
Speaker 3: shirt with a pair of jeans, maybe a manoale blanic
Speaker 3: kitten heel something and your hair is gray and you're
Speaker 3: carrying a burk and boom, you know. But if you're
Speaker 3: all dressed up, it's overkilled this thing and costume me bullshit.
Speaker 3: And you're carrying about burket It's like, wow, look how
Speaker 3: rich you are? You know what?
Speaker 1: And you see the girls putting them in the camera
Speaker 1: angle you see it?
Speaker 3: No, and they're always talking about it. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know how much of this cost right? Oh?
Speaker 1: No, the show does. It's so funny. Even with houses.
Speaker 1: I used to say, you can never do that. I
Speaker 1: think that's so ghosh. But I find the g's, the f's,
Speaker 1: the seas, the over logos like costumes so insecure and ghosh.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Completely one hundred percent. You know. The
Speaker 3: thing is like, Darling, there's a when I grew up
Speaker 3: in fashion, which was literally in the last century. Okay, babe,
Speaker 3: Like that's how old And that's why no one wants
Speaker 3: to cares what I have to say. But I remember, like,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying any of this is bad, but
Speaker 3: like when we were little or kids or young adults,
Speaker 3: you know, if you looked at something that was really
Speaker 3: hard to get in or out of. Right, if there
Speaker 3: were corsets and you know, if you had to do
Speaker 3: a million buttons and zippers and things, it wasn't modern,
Speaker 3: Like it was like, yeah, no, maybe it's good visually,
Speaker 3: but no, you know, I'm sorry, Like I didn't like
Speaker 3: it and you were taught not to like it, or
Speaker 3: if it was something that was extremely tight and extremely revealing, no,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there was a kind of
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 1: There's a meaning to it, I think because I read
Speaker 1: the book written about Anna Wintour which said that, and
Speaker 1: I'm getting somewhere with this, which said that, like Tom
Speaker 1: Ford doesn't love the whole circus of the met Gala
Speaker 1: a because he likes when it used to be an
Speaker 1: elegant night out.
Speaker 3: Be I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with him either.
Speaker 1: And he also doesn't like the matchy matchiness when someone
Speaker 1: wears his whole outfit the way it is on the
Speaker 1: runway also because it's not being creative.
Speaker 2: I kind of get that too. I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it. But Anna Winter, I
Speaker 1: think somewhere said like she likes when someone seems like
Speaker 1: they're dressing like themselves, like she doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: come in to work for her and dress like a
Speaker 1: version of what you think she would want and she
Speaker 1: But these girls all are dressing in a way that
Speaker 1: they want to, Like it's so forced, it doesn't look natural.
Speaker 2: So it brings up to me what fashion really is.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Like, now I'm gonna kind of
Speaker 3: like throw you for a little bit of a loop, okay,
Speaker 3: because if we talk about what fashion really is, darling,
Speaker 3: we'll be here like for the rest of the.
Speaker 2: Fir will stop this.
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, but I'm gonna say it's like, you know
Speaker 3: when I say I like watching Beverly Hills because I
Speaker 3: actually or New York because I actually know where they're
Speaker 3: getting these clothes from. And I don't know like who
Speaker 3: is making these dresses for these housewives in Atlanta or
Speaker 3: like in you know, Florida or in But.
Speaker 2: Doesn't that make what about this? Why do you need
Speaker 2: to know?
Speaker 3: No? I don't. I'm just saying it's just a funny puzzle.
Speaker 2: Manuzz exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: But also on the converse of that, when you're watching,
Speaker 3: you go like, okay, like where does a dress like
Speaker 3: that come from?
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's interesting, like where in the whole where
Speaker 1: is the story? That's fascinating because you played, you play
Speaker 1: in the game show, You're like, oh, that's a blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, that's a Selene A.
Speaker 3: Little bit A little bit. Also, I'm saying to myself, like, man,
Speaker 3: some dressmaker, some queen went out of her mind to
Speaker 3: make that that, you know, because it's like if you
Speaker 3: look at it and you go, oh right, I get it,
Speaker 3: It's like it's Tom Brown, you know what it is
Speaker 3: like if you're just watching La but then you're watching
Speaker 3: and you're going, well, whose fantasy is that? What collection
Speaker 3: did that come out of? Like what your do?
Speaker 2: You do? Do you always?
Speaker 3: You know? But yes, I mean it's like it's one
Speaker 3: of a few things. I mean, or it's just a
Speaker 3: little dress you got on main Street in Easthampton and
Speaker 3: I saw it the window. I know, no exactly, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, because but you don't wear you don't do that, darling,
Speaker 3: you don't do that. You know that other thing from Dubai.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the dress darling. And they go to
Speaker 3: lunch and they're literally have trains and like attendance not
Speaker 3: really lam squad, I know, I mean, well, it is real, darling,
Speaker 3: It's becoming real. That's my point. We don't know. We
Speaker 3: hate it, we hate it, we hate it, but it's
Speaker 3: not real except the children gag over it. They gag right,
Speaker 3: and they go, That's what I want to do when
Speaker 3: I grow up. So but give it ten years, twenty years.
Speaker 3: It's going to be people walking around with entourages and
Speaker 3: people holding their trains to go to the gym. I'm
Speaker 3: not kidding you, no, no, no doubt. Naby honey. If
Speaker 3: you wore anything in discreet at that time in the
Speaker 3: turn of the last century, you were you couldn't even
Speaker 3: show up the Ridgerton They wore the same dress. Well Bridgerton.
Speaker 3: You know what. I have a lot of problems with Bridgerton.
Speaker 3: I got I watched a few episodes and I found
Speaker 3: it just so kind of like, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: didn't like Bridgerton, okay.
Speaker 1: And I meant it okay, so, oh my god, we
Speaker 1: got so fascinated.
Speaker 2: I'm drunk.
Speaker 1: Hold on, but wait, you know what I mean though.
Speaker 1: What I mean though, is that there's a line between
Speaker 1: it being a reality show and that Denise Richards shows
Speaker 1: up on a balcony in shorts and everyone's in ball gowns,
Speaker 1: which they're doing for the cameras, so they're doing it
Speaker 1: for us. So it's theater, which is what the Metcal
Speaker 1: has become too, because it's a competition, but theater. But
Speaker 1: it's not really wearing today when the cameras aren't there.
Speaker 1: And I always wore what I learned today when the.
Speaker 2: Cats were well there. I don't get that me too.
Speaker 3: I mean, we grew up looking at Tina Chow and
Speaker 3: you know, like Maxim de la Falleis and Loul de
Speaker 3: la Falles and Son Laurent and all those Betty catrou
Speaker 3: and all those girls who understood that, like you could
Speaker 3: wear a white shirt and a bunch of bracelets and
Speaker 3: it was so fabulous, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, and Todd Ford on that I'm
Speaker 1: with you, like, don't look so thirsty and forth? All right,
Speaker 1: So the jersey, so that we know your relationship to
Speaker 1: the housewise you don't you watch certain shows religiously. To me,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's fascinating. A jersey is about family.
Speaker 1: I agree with you about Caroline as a person as
Speaker 1: a and I like Jacqueline too, but I don't think
Speaker 1: I think Caroline is like almost too genuine or too
Speaker 1: good and too normal for the housewise, like she and
Speaker 1: her husband are talking about retiring.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bored.
Speaker 3: I'm a little bored.
Speaker 2: Oh and Albi.
Speaker 3: So I feel that the thing was Albi and his
Speaker 3: law career and all that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yes, and having a possibility. Yeah, but the retirement conversation.
Speaker 1: The show now probably wouldn't be as indulgent of those conversations,
Speaker 1: right because they're like not as like quick moving, you know, drama.
Speaker 1: And I find it fascinating. She is from a family
Speaker 1: of eleven I.
Speaker 3: Know me too. I clocked that one, honey, I clocked that, Darling.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of kids.
Speaker 2: Like think about that.
Speaker 3: That's like another kid.
Speaker 1: That's like you heard that about other countries, Like that's
Speaker 1: like an Irish extraordinary, like a.
Speaker 3: Play on you know of Martin McDonough play about a
Speaker 3: family with eleven children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was like, okay, screech marks.
Speaker 1: And it's funny that they all weren't more in this
Speaker 1: show because you see Kardashians and like all the spawn
Speaker 1: like making entire shows. I'm just curious about these eleven people.
Speaker 1: Eleven is enough.
Speaker 3: I mean that's eleven children.
Speaker 1: I always find it fun to watch these years later,
Speaker 1: not just because like the quality is different, not just
Speaker 1: because there were only four women, which was is shocking
Speaker 1: when you say just the.
Speaker 3: Four women shocking shop.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's like it's like that was back when
Speaker 1: the shows were probably trying to be a little more
Speaker 1: like Sex and the City, you know, with just the
Speaker 1: four girls.
Speaker 3: Or human you know, human. I mean, how many fucking
Speaker 3: stories can you follow with real deep interest? You know
Speaker 3: you can't follow many more stories, you know, I swear
Speaker 3: to God. Also, by the way, you had that, I remember,
Speaker 3: and it all came back flooding back to me. Remember
Speaker 3: the sort of like the gay the gay gay friends gay,
Speaker 3: the gay who was who didn't have any scenes this week,
Speaker 3: but I remember her. I remember this guy. He was
Speaker 3: like tall and ald built, and he remember.
Speaker 1: He was sitting a friend on the wrong show on.
Speaker 3: This show friend. He was gay. He didn't have any
Speaker 3: scenes on this episode. He may have already come and
Speaker 3: gone and this and the whole franchise, but there a lot.
Speaker 3: He was one of the kids friends. I think he
Speaker 3: was like Carolyn Manzol, like had kids that moved out
Speaker 3: and he moved out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kind of Yeah, I remember he looks.
Speaker 3: He looked straight, but he was completely gay. And I
Speaker 3: remember in the day thinking like you might meet him
Speaker 3: in an alley some night.
Speaker 1: I would, Wow, he's not on the show. He's more accessible,
Speaker 1: well exactly.
Speaker 3: He's also probably my age by now.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I found.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the concept that I tell people
Speaker 1: about when people are asked to leave the show or
Speaker 1: when people really succeed. Danielle is the hate to hate.
Speaker 1: Like there's love to hate, there's love to love. Danielle
Speaker 1: is the hate to hate.
Speaker 3: She's the hate. It's so true. She got really that's
Speaker 3: a good one. That's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean. She's the first ever
Speaker 2: watch What Happens Live guest fun fact?
Speaker 3: Is that true? Ye? No, wait a minute, but by
Speaker 3: the way, like you know, she's the hate to hate
Speaker 3: character who literally is introduced as such, like she doesn't
Speaker 3: have a good moment from the fucking beginning of the
Speaker 3: whole thing, Like she literally comes in and you just
Speaker 3: like want to kill her. From the mid arc. There's
Speaker 3: no arc. She doesn't get there.
Speaker 1: She starts there, so like fascinating. Okay, So Kim Kim.
Speaker 3: By the way, Kim looks exactly like Sonya if they
Speaker 3: literally it's the same interesting, sure, the same lip. They
Speaker 3: went to the same lip person. I'm serious. Literally Kim
Speaker 3: him with the blonde Kim D. Kim D and Sonia
Speaker 3: Morgan booth. Okay, by the way, Sonia Morgan, I saw
Speaker 3: her in person a few times. She is literally a
Speaker 3: fucking like Burne Jones drawing. That woman is so pretty.
Speaker 3: She's so very beautiful and fragile. No, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: She has the face of like a burn like an angel,
Speaker 3: like a I don't know what.
Speaker 2: She's going to be so happy. This is going to
Speaker 2: make her life in the text.
Speaker 1: So Kim D is the quintessential first real Bravo example.
Speaker 1: Well second, because Jill's friend Brad was one is a
Speaker 1: real Bravo example in the beginning, when people didn't realize
Speaker 1: that this person's clamoring to be on the show, right, like.
Speaker 3: Why isn't she on the show? Right? Where's her? You know?
Speaker 3: Kind of magic.
Speaker 1: Well, she's like the Marlowe of this show, like a
Speaker 1: semi hateful friend that can't make the cut and I
Speaker 1: don't know why as the main character, but she's going
Speaker 1: to be a good side. And she's the smartest one
Speaker 1: on the show because her little store that is so
Speaker 1: cluttered gets the main stage at a country club in
Speaker 1: a local fashion show.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, Darling, can we talk about
Speaker 3: that country club? Can we talk about that fashion show?
Speaker 2: I mean and that story.
Speaker 3: You know, But that's what I'm saying. So it's all
Speaker 3: it's all of a piece. And by the way, like.
Speaker 2: But how Jersey, what do you mean? That's what that is?
Speaker 2: Jersey like?
Speaker 3: But I have to tell you also, it's a really
Speaker 3: really good strategy and sell to sell clothes. That's not
Speaker 3: just you have this crazy store that's tiny and it's
Speaker 3: just like full of all this stuff and you just
Speaker 3: have to wade through it. I think people like to
Speaker 3: wade through stuff to like I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: When they go TJ Max model except like.
Speaker 3: The Mini Mini Mini Mini Mini version.
Speaker 1: It can be aid producing though it has to be
Speaker 1: curated properly. Otherwise you hit the wall and you feel
Speaker 1: like you're panicking.
Speaker 3: Yes, the very I can't do it. I prefer like,
Speaker 3: you know, walking in and there's like a rack with
Speaker 3: like one or two things.
Speaker 1: I like organized, I can't I like organized, but TJ
Speaker 1: has a way of doing it where it's my organized section.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I agree with Danielle about that woman being
Speaker 1: off putting in a front facing desk position.
Speaker 3: Oh you do. I know me too. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: I don't understand walking into a shop and there being
Speaker 3: a desk with a w I don't get that. It
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I didn't disagree with Danielle on that.
Speaker 3: I mean, she did kind of jump the gun a
Speaker 3: little bit. God knows what. Yes, you know what. I
Speaker 3: knew what happened to her on the way she came,
Speaker 3: she came to it, whatever it was, she jumped the gun.
Speaker 3: But but I do understand why she would think that, like, oh, really, receptionist,
Speaker 3: I walk into a store, it's a woman sitting at
Speaker 3: a desk. You know, because if you walk into a
Speaker 3: store and a woman standing there with holding some you know,
Speaker 3: holding some hangers with clothes, you go, okay, well I'll
Speaker 3: wait a second. But if she's sitting at a desk
Speaker 3: on the phone, by the way, on the phone, it
Speaker 3: feels like you're being screened. It kind of feels like
Speaker 3: you're being screwed.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're in a dentist office. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. And it's also like a giant tall desk.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make it. You don't walk into so I
Speaker 1: thought like, and she was also low at the desk,
Speaker 1: like it looked like a dentist doctor. You're low, you're like, hey, guys. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I thought she was off putting, like it was just
Speaker 1: like that's the place.
Speaker 3: I mean, she wasn't mean or anything, but she was
Speaker 3: a little off putting. And the fact that she was
Speaker 3: on the phone added.
Speaker 1: To the you know, I hate that in general by
Speaker 1: the when you walk into a restaurant, you hear their comment,
Speaker 1: put the phone down and greet me at the restaurant host.
Speaker 3: Oh no, darling, darling, darling. When you when you Darling's
Speaker 3: when you walk into a restaurant and they don't see
Speaker 3: you right away, that's just such a hard time or
Speaker 3: they don't say one second or whatever. Yes, that's very
Speaker 3: very That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They're like on a personal phone call and they're like
Speaker 1: not giving you eye contact.
Speaker 2: It's passag. So this was passag.
Speaker 1: This woman was passag But Daniel, it's just like some
Speaker 1: there was some like foreplay that we didn't see where
Speaker 1: Danielle had some institution happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she understood something. Some producer set her up or
Speaker 3: somebody set her up. You know, she did.
Speaker 2: She she knew that she was walking into.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a million things that could have been
Speaker 3: that morning, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like I think she already knew that, Like this
Speaker 1: was her friend who was like infiltrating Teresa because it's
Speaker 1: like noodle into the show to get your your.
Speaker 2: Fashion show in.
Speaker 1: So she felt like she was like friend jumping and
Speaker 1: then like there was some behind the scenes thing and
Speaker 1: that was interesting. But I found the best and most
Speaker 1: New Jersey Housewives line that I've ever heard that I
Speaker 1: didn't notice the first time around was I was next
Speaker 1: door paying my water bill.
Speaker 3: Wow, oh right, that's because you pay for water in Jersey.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. That's which stuff. I remember when
Speaker 3: I was a kid, we used to go to Deal,
Speaker 3: New Jersey for the summer, which is a short town,
Speaker 3: and there were water bills and my father would always say,
Speaker 3: you have to pay for water out here, Like what
Speaker 3: the fuck? You know, by the way, can we just
Speaker 3: cut I know this is on your list of questions.
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump.
Speaker 2: The question jump whatever you want?
Speaker 3: Could I just go because for one minute, like, did
Speaker 3: you think that maybe Teresa at the end was kind
Speaker 3: of actually reaching out to her to like or what?
Speaker 3: Or did you think I like that? Was that? Was
Speaker 3: that a produce? Real? Like? Whoa?
Speaker 1: Okay, because I thought of it too. It struck me too.
Speaker 1: So what I think happened was, oh I know what happened. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what happened.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 1: So before I know exactly happened, I had to just
Speaker 1: go there and be a housewife for one second. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're going into a scene. You're going in to
Speaker 1: go to the night, the big night. This is the
Speaker 1: big fashion show.
Speaker 2: This is a big deal. This is a big multi
Speaker 2: camera maybe where you.
Speaker 3: Wear your little chinchilla jacket if you're.
Speaker 2: Full on, and then the little shrug for Jeff.
Speaker 3: Which was so good, that little shrug. You wish you
Speaker 3: had that shrug.
Speaker 2: I wish jeans though, so good?
Speaker 3: Or you know it's like a turtleneck and some kind
Speaker 3: of like a little tight skirt, Oh my god, so cute.
Speaker 2: Go Okay, yeah, should I got rid of my wife? Okay,
Speaker 2: So here's exactly what happens.
Speaker 1: You get there and this is also early seasons where
Speaker 1: you're actually listening and a producer comes into your car.
Speaker 1: Let them the other person's miking you, the sound person's
Speaker 1: making you, the producer's next to you, and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so tonight, this just happened with that which you're going
Speaker 1: to have to talk to Cam. You should definitely mention
Speaker 1: this to that person, and I think that should happen
Speaker 1: and make sure you get in that and make sure
Speaker 1: you do that, and make sure you invite Penelope to
Speaker 1: the Saint Barts next week. Like there are beats, beats
Speaker 1: that you have to hit.
Speaker 3: Let's get the beat, of course, but I'm going to
Speaker 3: give you is so much more interesting than what you
Speaker 3: could ever subjes.
Speaker 2: I don't like Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: It's not for me.
Speaker 1: But you still manage to absorb some of it. And
Speaker 1: you're aware as and I would never be always take
Speaker 1: at the fuck out my car, but you're.
Speaker 2: Aware in your mind of what you want.
Speaker 1: To get done because you're a good employee and you're
Speaker 1: a good team player, and you want to hit the beats.
Speaker 1: You're aware of what they've said, so Teresa has the
Speaker 1: only thing that this audience wants and needs by two
Speaker 1: people that actually are cast members of the show, is
Speaker 1: for these two people to get together. It's Serena and
Speaker 1: June in Handmaid's Tale.
Speaker 2: So we're not going to finish this.
Speaker 1: So even if everyone's thinking about leaving and getting their jackets,
Speaker 1: the producers putting going in a bathroom and saying, you
Speaker 1: gotta talk to Danielle before you leave, Like it's the
Speaker 1: Me and Kelly bensimone scene, right, you need to get
Speaker 1: that scene.
Speaker 2: You need that moment.
Speaker 1: So what's happening is Teresa's just sitting there and she's like, hi,
Speaker 1: like just trying to.
Speaker 3: Like she's trying to do something.
Speaker 2: Something, it's an interaction.
Speaker 1: And then Danielle is like, and I do believe it
Speaker 1: was probably Teresa that was told that, and Danielle is
Speaker 1: probably like, Okay, whatever, genuous and it was gamy and
Speaker 1: that like, fuck you, I'm gonna go where I wanted
Speaker 1: where I felt. Anyway, the reason I didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk to you to begin with, I was shocked, Oh
Speaker 1: she's seventeen. I'm shocked that we have like bookend shit
Speaker 1: show episodes like the last episode of the last season
Speaker 1: was Flip a table. Not that many episodes later.
Speaker 2: I know it's.
Speaker 1: Like like like there's a lot of cops and fights
Speaker 1: in this series. I never remembered it being so crazy
Speaker 1: that they're like very physical.
Speaker 3: Well I do. I remember it being crazy, and I
Speaker 3: remember it taking the lead in the franchise. It became
Speaker 3: like the most popular franchise because it was so insane.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Okay, So you know, here's the thing. Danielle
Speaker 1: seems I don't like to use the word nuts, but
Speaker 1: like she comes out of the gate paranoid and like
Speaker 1: she starts the fight before the fight is started. It's
Speaker 1: just so and I'm an aggressive person.
Speaker 2: It's so aggressive.
Speaker 1: Like it's like she's at a ten. She comes in
Speaker 1: hot at all times, is what I notice.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Darling, it's like because there is
Speaker 3: a special kind of a gene that exists in anyone
Speaker 3: of the housewives. You included right where you're like going,
Speaker 3: this is a show that has to be interesting, it
Speaker 3: has to be feisty, there have to be conflicts, right,
Speaker 3: so you've got and she especially is very very sensitive.
Speaker 3: She's like a missile of like a heat seeking missile.
Speaker 3: She will find the drama if you set that woman
Speaker 3: up right. So you were talking about like having producers
Speaker 3: going well, this has happened, and that has happened, and
Speaker 3: you're going like, really I know it, mind her up,
Speaker 3: and there has I know, like kick the snake, kick
Speaker 3: the snake. You know, I don't think if you're you know,
Speaker 3: if you're a conscientious kind of Bravo employee, you understand
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to bring some kind of a drama
Speaker 3: to a you notes, no, you have to be promotes.
Speaker 3: But I think like in the case of Danielle Boy
Speaker 3: she is like and sometimes I think maybe a little
Speaker 3: too she is a little bit too highly strung and
Speaker 3: too sensitive to that, to that ability to she's half coughed,
Speaker 3: she's haf cough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's half coughed. And you brought up the best
Speaker 1: thing though, which is interesting. First of all, I have
Speaker 1: to remind everybody that like, there's no way to describe
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen doesn't even know what it's like because he
Speaker 1: does has never lived it. What it is like to
Speaker 1: involve heightened to women, to involve ratings, to involve producers,
Speaker 1: and they're all different on all the different shows, different
Speaker 1: types of producers, and then to involve alcohol, and then
Speaker 1: to involve the fact that you live in this vortex
Speaker 1: where you think all this stuff is important and it
Speaker 1: means a lot too at this time, even though it's
Speaker 1: not real.
Speaker 3: Yes, you brought up.
Speaker 1: Sensitive with Danielle, which I definitely agree with, And there's
Speaker 1: something about her to me that feels like like a
Speaker 1: caged animal that if you come at them, they're just
Speaker 1: going to like, I know, well.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. And you know what, She's
Speaker 3: not the only one. Like I've been on Andy Show
Speaker 3: a million times and you can feel like certain of
Speaker 3: those women, Darling, they are they don't it's nothing stands
Speaker 3: in their way between you know, between the drama and
Speaker 3: the capturing of the drama. So it's like you don't
Speaker 3: even exist in the room. You know what I'm talking about, right?
Speaker 1: What I want to say those people, I always am
Speaker 1: shocked by how somebody could fuck up this job and
Speaker 1: get fired. And the thing is what happens a lot
Speaker 1: is some people. There's a couple of things that happen.
Speaker 1: People won't come a.
Speaker 3: Minute, Wait a second, wait a minute, Okay, don't you
Speaker 3: give me this, because what's good about you because you
Speaker 3: under sad drama. Drama wasn't as important to you as like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. First of all, you're a writer. I
Speaker 3: think you're like a writer. I swear to god. It's
Speaker 3: like you're writing in your head, like how many different
Speaker 3: fucking ways can this go down? And you not to
Speaker 3: blow smoke up your butt. I think that's why you
Speaker 3: were so good on that show, because you didn't go
Speaker 3: in half cocked. You went in phone cocked. Oh I'm
Speaker 3: kidding now, but I mean no, you went in going like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll do my best here, and then you recognize something
Speaker 3: as writer. Yeah, you didn't go in going anything.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, you're describing preconceived notions. You're
Speaker 1: describing a leg on a dance floor, which was obviously
Speaker 1: so self produced.
Speaker 2: But that's what I was just going to say. It's
Speaker 2: impossible for.
Speaker 3: Me to a dance floor. You didn't. Oh my god, okay,
Speaker 3: get me. No, of course I know.
Speaker 1: But oh sorry, No. What I'm saying is the pre
Speaker 1: like and sometimes it can land. It can land like Teresa.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's semi planned that or in the moment.
Speaker 2: Planet, but it landed.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is preconceived notions. So people come
Speaker 1: into the Housewives, and there are a couple of ways
Speaker 1: they do it. They've they're coming in, they've watched it
Speaker 1: every single They're gonna be just like Bethany.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do it just like me.
Speaker 1: And he called me from a reunion recently and said,
Speaker 1: ex housewife is literally channeling you right now and trying
Speaker 1: has studied the reunions and trying to be right now.
Speaker 2: Andy, that happened recently. Okay, but that did happen.
Speaker 1: But you come in and you either want to be
Speaker 1: better then you want to act like what's going on
Speaker 1: with all these people like in Carol Radzivill, like I
Speaker 1: went on George Clooney and I'm a I'm a Kennedy
Speaker 1: and like what's going on? Everybody's so dramatic. That's one way.
Speaker 1: The other two is I'm gonna fuck with the most
Speaker 1: powerful one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come in, put them down, goodbye exactly. Wait
Speaker 3: a minute, by the way, can I just say one
Speaker 3: thing about what you just said, which is before what's
Speaker 3: coming in and coming to Bethany? Right? The one thing
Speaker 3: I love already about Jenna Lyons, like the show premiered,
Speaker 3: Yet she says something in the Times like I think
Speaker 3: it was like a bold type of bold face kind
Speaker 3: of quote from her. She said, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know what they're going to think of me. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they're going to think I'm stuck up. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they're going to think I'm an asshole.
Speaker 3: I don't know. And I was like, Wow, that is
Speaker 3: the greatest thing I ever heard in my life. That
Speaker 3: she's already kind of like knowing that they're going to
Speaker 3: think she's so stuck up because she's really smart. You know,
Speaker 3: Jenna Lyons is very, very very smart. And I tell
Speaker 3: you that's what that's what is great. Like, I think
Speaker 3: the reason I watched New York, the reason I watched
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, is because you know, you've got some smart people.
Speaker 3: You've got some smart people. It's not just table thres,
Speaker 3: not many, no, no, no, but you have some Like
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I think is exciting about the
Speaker 3: New York reboot is that they're at least Jenna is
Speaker 3: very very smart, you know what I mean, She's smart
Speaker 3: enough to say, well, maybe you think I'm stuck up,
Speaker 3: you know what?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, but the most iconic housewives are not
Speaker 1: the smartest ones for the most part, just yeah except here.
Speaker 2: Well thank you. But there's an art to this thing.
Speaker 3: And and Kyle, Kyle's really smart. I met her twice
Speaker 3: and she is smart.
Speaker 2: You know, she's smart.
Speaker 3: Smart.
Speaker 1: There's an art to this thing, and it's not what
Speaker 1: people think that it is. So anyway, people come in
Speaker 1: and do that. And then the third category is a
Speaker 1: person who comes in and they're like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: burn this house to the ground, right, but it's disproportionate
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't land.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't land, and it's very, as you say,
Speaker 3: half cocked and not fully cocked. I gets saying fully cocked.
Speaker 1: Because I really like it, saying yeah, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Bailey's on the Rocks as an Italian drinking.
Speaker 3: Oh baby, And they had a name for it, didn't that,
Speaker 3: Oh no, it was Bailey's on the Rocks. I thought
Speaker 3: they kept saying babies on the rocks.
Speaker 2: Bailey so Italian. I love that good.
Speaker 1: Teresa's drinking a drink with an orange and a pink
Speaker 1: drink with an orange.
Speaker 3: And what about a second, darling, what about a coke
Speaker 3: with a shot of wine.
Speaker 2: Hello, I happened.
Speaker 3: That happened.
Speaker 2: That could be a TikTok sensation. I want to go.
Speaker 3: Maybe I know we should get together. You should have
Speaker 3: that should be like your new Oh. I feel like
Speaker 3: you introduced that moscow mule. I feel like you personally
Speaker 3: introduced the moscow mule to the entire like Western hemisphere. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: on your show known as The Real House was Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I swear to god, it was like the first
Speaker 3: time anyone ever heard of a moscow. You may have
Speaker 3: to revive like a coke with a shot of red wine.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna make a tri yeah, okay. So
Speaker 1: and also I find it fascinating that Caroline and her
Speaker 1: husband keep talking about retirement.
Speaker 2: Paul and I are long.
Speaker 1: Distance, like we we don't We're not together all the time,
Speaker 1: and we both it's good because I'm with my daughter,
Speaker 1: then I'm with Paul.
Speaker 2: We have pot too, Okay. I don't need to be
Speaker 2: up anyone down all day.
Speaker 3: Long, arnold. We live in separate places. We come together
Speaker 3: for three or four days that he goes back to
Speaker 3: the city or I go to the city.
Speaker 2: And you're married.
Speaker 3: We're married.
Speaker 2: So this is a non traditional relationship.
Speaker 3: By the way, completely monogamous, unlike a lot of homosexuals
Speaker 3: who have open relationships, unlike a lot of new heterosexuals,
Speaker 3: and you know, polyamorous couples who do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: We are what is what was I going to say?
Speaker 3: We were non traditionally sort of.
Speaker 2: Oh, monoogamous.
Speaker 3: Yes, we are monogamous.
Speaker 2: But how long has it been like that? Oh?
Speaker 3: My god, always, I'm not kidding you. I met him, well,
Speaker 3: I met him about something like twenty two years ago,
Speaker 3: and then we split up for seven years and I
Speaker 3: just slept with everybody, you know, But then we got
Speaker 3: back together. We got back together in like two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven, and we have been monogamous since two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven. We got married in twenty eleven when it became.
Speaker 1: But monogamous, non traditional locationally and that just life dictated
Speaker 1: that you made a decision.
Speaker 3: No, no, you know what. When we chat about it,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you know, we're monogamous. We both go
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, not sure, you know. But then it's
Speaker 3: like you try or something. I don't try. But it's
Speaker 3: like I approach somebody approaches or I approach her, I think,
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, that's not worth it. No one
Speaker 3: could be as sexy as my husband.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jacqueline's daughter gets asked to be in the fashion show,
Speaker 1: so right, that's another smart This Kim.
Speaker 2: Is a little minx. She like, I gotta lock this
Speaker 2: fucking fashion show. Oh yeah, it's o air.
Speaker 3: And do you believe that? Like Jacqueline's daughter says yes,
Speaker 3: like she's okay, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Why don't you believe it?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess she does. I guess everyone.
Speaker 3: She just wants to be a she.
Speaker 2: Wants to be a model.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Danielle's daughter is stunning and seems
Speaker 1: really true.
Speaker 3: It is like Shay gorgeous. Really, you know who else's
Speaker 3: daughter is so beautiful. I've said this before a million times.
Speaker 1: And Ashley's beautiful too. I'm just saying they didn't ask
Speaker 1: Danielle's daughter.
Speaker 3: Luanne's daughter. Oh my god, she literally looks like she
Speaker 3: should do a Chanelle. She should be the fact that
Speaker 3: girl looks like a proof character. I'm serious. She is
Speaker 3: so beautiful. She looks like a nineteenth century like a
Speaker 3: like some I don't know, like a Baldini drawing or something.
Speaker 3: I mean she is so beautiful, that girl, those eyebrows.
Speaker 3: Oh Darling, at least she was. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen her in a minute, Like sometimes they grow
Speaker 3: into something. But the last time I saw her, and
Speaker 3: she's out here a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's her name?
Speaker 3: Her name is what Victoria Darling? Last time I saw her,
Speaker 3: she was she should be. She looks like I don't know,
Speaker 3: she looks like in a still La fraisage.
Speaker 2: So that's shotspired. Not having Danielle's child in the show.
Speaker 1: Right, that's what shot inspired, like this woman, Kim not
Speaker 1: having shots fired.
Speaker 2: So now so now we're at the show.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: By the way, Kim does like a nice little apology
Speaker 1: on the phone, which was like a good obligatory apology,
Speaker 1: and she's like, let's just let's just start over. And
Speaker 1: I kind of remember that from years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I remember that apology. It was just like Danielle,
Speaker 1: let's just like not we thought, it's okay, I'm sorry whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I kind of liked that apology.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Weird, just like by gone's bygones.
Speaker 3: Apologies to show you're so right about that, you know.
Speaker 2: I just like I like an apology like that, So
Speaker 2: all right, here we are, we.
Speaker 3: Are, and then the show, I mean the show like
Speaker 3: you need you need someone to walk down a runway
Speaker 3: to show like a ripped up to a printed T
Speaker 3: shirt with a printed jean leggings. Really, that's what you're
Speaker 3: going to show in your show. It's crazy. And you
Speaker 3: see the girls looking like, oh yeah, those are good leggings.
Speaker 3: I need the I guess what the hell.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious, it's ridiculous, it's so Jersey and it's so great.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like a little bit like the Borsh Belt or something.
Speaker 1: They'd have one of these like fake fashion shows up there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how they do like competition pictures, Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Something like on The Marvelous Missus Mais, Yes.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, like they do these like little shows like
Speaker 1: that's what this is with these because it's just a
Speaker 1: non housewife managed to jam in her store in a fashion.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't allow that anymore, like no Dwayne or one
Speaker 1: of those.
Speaker 3: Well, Duane was one of the best characters of the
Speaker 3: entire and I can't believe they don't see that. I
Speaker 3: can't believe they don't see Dwyane and like recognize Dwyane,
Speaker 3: like Dwayne show was the air, I mean the craziest person.
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, Who's Bentley? Was that the Kim
Speaker 1: g I don't know where that Kim came from, but
Speaker 1: she's another Kim. And they showed up at a four
Speaker 1: door black Bentley. That's like old school for the luxury
Speaker 1: cars that came into Housewives later, Like it was a
Speaker 1: four door like flying Well.
Speaker 3: By the way, I always say that to myself, like
Speaker 3: when I see the quotient, like the car quotient on
Speaker 3: The Housewives, I'm like, where's my may back, where's my
Speaker 3: fucking you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I mean it, it's very we got to get
Speaker 1: the car going for the show. Yeah, it's very like
Speaker 1: a different car each season.
Speaker 2: Who cares. If we build it, they will come.
Speaker 1: If we if we mortgage our houses ten different ways
Speaker 1: from Sunday, then the money will come. That's the Housewives model.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be rich. You just have to
Speaker 1: look rich.
Speaker 3: Look it for a minute, and then go into debt
Speaker 3: and get in trouble and then be on the lamb.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, I'd say, And but you always have to make.
Speaker 3: It to the reunion. No matter how on the lamb
Speaker 3: you are, you gotta make it show up to the reunion.
Speaker 1: Five to ten percent and that's a it's a I'm
Speaker 1: being generous. Five to ten percent of housewives actually got
Speaker 1: it like that right from money Stampoint. I've literally read
Speaker 1: fifty times when people say the net worth of housewives.
Speaker 2: They are so wrong with everybody.
Speaker 1: They say, Carol Radziwill's worth like several million dollars, like
Speaker 1: she's worth a couple, Like they go crazy with everybody.
Speaker 1: They're always wrong. Okay, So Danielle comes in with the bodyguard.
Speaker 1: Who was that guy?
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I don't know. And and also when
Speaker 3: she said that thing about what made me giggle? And
Speaker 3: you know again the bodyguard maybe giggle. But also when
Speaker 3: she said, Paris Hilton taught her to pretend.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know they were friends. That's like I said,
Speaker 1: my friend Gwyneth, and who's that right?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? But we didn't know they were friends. But
Speaker 3: also like, I love how Paris Hilton had to teach
Speaker 3: you to do that, right, It's like you would just
Speaker 3: assume that if you were on your phone, people would
Speaker 3: get annoyed. I love how Paris Hilton had to point
Speaker 3: really funny, it's really subtly funny.
Speaker 2: Funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like like if you're on your phone, then
Speaker 1: you might be engaged in something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something had that.
Speaker 3: Oh oh right, you know tell me that, Paris Hilton.
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's important.
Speaker 3: It's important important.
Speaker 2: Asterisk that's hysterical. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 3: I saw way, you know, like, can I just say
Speaker 3: one thing? Because we've all been on Andy show a
Speaker 3: million times and they go, what do you think? And
Speaker 3: you're like, well that is really who would wear that?
Speaker 3: You crazy? You know? And then because in advance, I
Speaker 3: would say to him Andy, how am I going to
Speaker 3: say that this is revolting and that I hate that
Speaker 3: or that I like that? He says, Darling, you must
Speaker 3: say this, and I was like, but I can't. I can't,
Speaker 3: And he was like, but you know, these women, they
Speaker 3: open their lives up and so there it's open season.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's also an open season. I'll
Speaker 1: watch what Happens live for Clickbait Central for four days.
Speaker 1: You've never had more headlines about the ship you say
Speaker 1: on there than the next four days after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, what, But he's kind of right
Speaker 3: in that respect. It's like if you go on the
Speaker 3: reality show, you open your life up to someone going
Speaker 3: really her friend Paris Hilton. I mean, I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: say that, but it is very funny, and I do
Speaker 3: like her. I do like Danielle. I'm not kidding. I
Speaker 3: really like Danielle. But you know, I got to say that.
Speaker 3: And then and then, by the way, when I said
Speaker 3: earlier about how like you know, the children are gagging, right,
Speaker 3: the children are gagging and ten years everyone is going
Speaker 3: to be doing all this. They are already because of Bravo,
Speaker 3: because of the Housewives, because of you, because of Andy's show.
Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, like life is imitating art. Life
Speaker 3: is fucking imitating art, whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1: You brought up something interesting, You brought up something I've
Speaker 1: thought about and I've said it, but like I forget
Speaker 1: about it. So you go on watch What Happens Live
Speaker 1: as a Housewife, and you know, you go into the
Speaker 1: super this is what's happening. You're there to play and
Speaker 1: so yes, you're there for clickbait, You're there for questions,
Speaker 1: you're for audience polls, You're there to get yes Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the problem I've had when.
Speaker 2: I go there now, having.
Speaker 1: Left that atmosphere, having chosen to paid, I just want
Speaker 1: to hawk my ship and be entertaining and go with
Speaker 1: Andy and like, you know, a little bit of clickbait,
Speaker 1: but I'll go there. I'm like, so Ramona was asked
Speaker 1: who the ugliest housewife of all time is?
Speaker 3: And and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not paying to do
Speaker 1: this anymore. I'm paid to talk about my products. A
Speaker 1: couple of j Lo Raleiota questions and you know, Sigourney
Speaker 1: when he was on which will God rest his soul?
Speaker 1: Because he was really funny on the show. But like,
Speaker 1: I'm not paid to come on here and get dragged
Speaker 1: by like poles and ship. So that's the funny thing
Speaker 1: that you bring up, Like.
Speaker 3: Because you're because you're so in the you're so so
Speaker 3: so in in the franchise and enough to be doing
Speaker 3: a podcast called Rewives Okay, blue blue fat boom boom, boom,
Speaker 3: okay boom. But anyway, but then but then the thing
Speaker 3: is like for me, I am not doing yes, of course,
Speaker 3: of course, but listen, but me, who I am not
Speaker 3: in that world? And I watch it like some crazy
Speaker 3: teenage girl. I watch it and I'm thrilled, and I
Speaker 3: go like, you know, I can't wait to go on
Speaker 3: that show, was going.
Speaker 2: On show saying really so fun. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So he's so cute and he's so like I just
Speaker 3: he's so mysterious and anyway, go on.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's open season and me too. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hawk what I'm hawking, I'm gonna take take the beating.
Speaker 2: And that's just what happens. So now I got to
Speaker 2: get to the biggest couple of moments.
Speaker 1: Now we got to get to what was the cocaine
Speaker 1: line that Danielle said about a seventeen year old? Did
Speaker 1: I miss something? What the hell was the cocaine line?
Speaker 1: She said something about coke core and I wish, oh
Speaker 1: was she talked about a seventeen year old girl.
Speaker 2: Something happened.
Speaker 1: She was at the table and she's talking about Ashley,
Speaker 1: and Ashley's been sending Danielle text I don't understand, and
Speaker 1: I would school my daughter like it goes two ways. Yes,
Speaker 1: we don't bring the children in, but she's almost an adult.
Speaker 1: And if she's texting Danielle like her mother Jacqueline, she'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, give me that phone exactly.
Speaker 2: No way.
Speaker 3: But as there was no It's true. There was also
Speaker 3: a moment I couldn't tell because we couldn't actually there
Speaker 3: wasn't like, uh, you know, a what's it called an
Speaker 3: establishing shot of that show. You didn't know where the
Speaker 3: tables were. But there was a moment where Jacqueline's daughter
Speaker 3: Ashley was kind of looking over and she went like
Speaker 3: that no taunting, taunting, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 3: there you go?
Speaker 1: So there, Well, I mean, Danielle, here's the thing too.
Speaker 1: On reality TV, people played to the audience and want
Speaker 1: to do things that we will approve of. So Danielle,
Speaker 1: in fairness to being trying being who she really is,
Speaker 1: she didn't think about us. She was like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: this little girl who's seventeen is fucking with me, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, Like most people know better for
Speaker 1: the camera to not say that, but like, listen, there
Speaker 1: are friends of my daughters who I don't like it.
Speaker 1: She's only thirteen. Like I'm not saying it to them,
Speaker 1: but like the side, you know what I mean. Wait,
Speaker 1: I need a take from you on Danielle and Ashley.
Speaker 1: I think you're splitting the difference between child and taunting.
Speaker 3: Well, if she said that about crack core, because I
Speaker 3: don't remember that, that is like really not Okay.
Speaker 2: Danielle called Ashley a coke horn.
Speaker 3: She did, right, Okay, that's.
Speaker 2: Where the line is hard.
Speaker 3: You can't cross it. You cannot cross it.
Speaker 2: You can't know, you can't say coke, and you can't
Speaker 2: say who.
Speaker 3: No, let's say core. I can't believe.
Speaker 2: How was that not a physical fight?
Speaker 1: Like, how would Teresa sitting on a club chair in
Speaker 1: a in a country club saying nothing and no exchange
Speaker 1: and they get into a brawl and the co core
Speaker 1: thing wasn't a thing.
Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, because of the next episod.
Speaker 2: So she didn't hear it.
Speaker 3: She didn't hear it, but we heard yeah. But also
Speaker 3: in the next episode you have Ashley pulling hairs out
Speaker 3: of actual nicole of Danielle's head.
Speaker 1: Remember, okay, never get involved, but literally producers never should
Speaker 1: get involved. One time, a producer told me that Tinsley
Speaker 1: had gone to try and weddings when she wasn't engaged.
Speaker 1: It's very rare that they'll tell you something that you
Speaker 1: should be you should be finding it out yourself through
Speaker 1: the group, like they don't plant see it, they don't
Speaker 1: just come. But that time they needed someone to know
Speaker 1: and it paid off. This is a situation where a
Speaker 1: producer should either literally tell a person at another table
Speaker 1: it was just said, or send someone a messenger carrier
Speaker 1: pigeon over to be like, wait a.
Speaker 3: Minute, now, can we go back to Tinsley trying on
Speaker 3: wedding dresses? If you're Tinsley Mortimer going to like, what
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 2: I'm so where I'm sol That's where she went.
Speaker 3: I'm okay, right, you go to I'msol, right, or you
Speaker 3: go to Verro, you go somewhere to try on wedding
Speaker 3: gowns and you're Tinsley Mortimer, like, it's not gonna get
Speaker 3: out that you're trying. Of course doesn't she think it's
Speaker 3: going to get out? Of course she knows it's going
Speaker 3: to get out. Someone's going to say something to somebody
Speaker 3: that the fabulous Mortimer was trying on gowns.
Speaker 1: Well take it back one more. I guarantee the producers
Speaker 1: wanted her to. It was I was the one who
Speaker 1: originally cleared Am Saul when I got married, you know,
Speaker 1: when I got married. Yes, So the producers are probably like,
Speaker 1: we've already cleared that place and we know they're free
Speaker 1: to film.
Speaker 2: Let's get Tinsley to go in.
Speaker 3: And I mean, well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: But I took the bait, went for the fish and killed,
Speaker 1: you know, cook the fish.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm saying, in the very rare occasion,
Speaker 1: do you want the other table to know something? And
Speaker 1: that would be a co court seventeen years old.
Speaker 3: Ok it's not okay, bad, that's just bad. But you
Speaker 3: know what, like in our lives, we say some bad things,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't expect people to hear. And maybe
Speaker 3: in her defense, Danielle was not up to speed yet,
Speaker 3: or maybe she just wanted everyone to know that she
Speaker 3: was just so.
Speaker 2: You said it an hour ago.
Speaker 1: She she comes in full cock and she's like, yes,
Speaker 1: keep bringing.
Speaker 2: It like she's not. And yeah, she comes into She.
Speaker 3: Is just gonna burn that thing down.
Speaker 2: She's Kalisi at the end of a game of Throne.
Speaker 3: She's gonna burn it exactly.
Speaker 2: A co Quardo seventeen.
Speaker 1: Year old is burning the kingdom down. So now we're
Speaker 1: in the hallway, we're almost done. Now in the hallway,
Speaker 1: Teresa's sitting there, like you said, like a little chesh
Speaker 1: ar cat.
Speaker 2: She's like, you know, the best is you know me,
Speaker 2: I'm sweet?
Speaker 3: Ah. I know. Of course I was like, yeah, she's
Speaker 3: so sweet, and what a sweet dear.
Speaker 2: She goes I'm sweet in twenty second.
Speaker 3: Twenty four minutes, exact twenty for seconds.
Speaker 2: I mean, she goes right like you like there's no
Speaker 2: palate cleanser. She's like, you know me, I'm sweet, so sweet.
Speaker 3: That was really funny because you know me, I didn't
Speaker 3: have a mean bonum. I'm so sweet. I don't mean anything.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to make anybody feel really so great
Speaker 3: say she.
Speaker 1: Said something like exactly like I'm a nice girl or
Speaker 1: I'm really sweet or I wrote it down, she wrote
Speaker 1: she said something. But the juxtaposition from her saying that
Speaker 1: exact thing, and and then and Daniel's like, yiada, I
Speaker 1: don't see that. And then she goes nuts.
Speaker 3: She goes nuts and she starts running, physically running. You know,
Speaker 3: it's really good. The one thing about Theresa that I
Speaker 3: will say, you know, I don't think that she is
Speaker 3: kind of like pregurgitating or pre producing shit. I think
Speaker 3: I just think that she has like a trigger finger,
Speaker 3: like she's just like she goes from like zero to
Speaker 3: a thousand, Like you saw that thing in that restaurant,
Speaker 3: which she was like yeah, but prophet, she was really
Speaker 3: going through something like that was a physical thing, right,
Speaker 3: it's physically like you know, crazy, she's physically she will
Speaker 3: go to a thousand, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Kendall has given me some insight. So Danielle
Speaker 1: actually a cocre whilst walking down the runway. I feel
Speaker 1: like that doubles it down.
Speaker 3: That makes it even worse. No, no, no, no, she
Speaker 3: didn't say she was. She said she looked like a
Speaker 3: co Core. She said she was dressed like a co
Speaker 3: cor or something.
Speaker 1: Or well that's another by the way, Jersey could be
Speaker 1: many many lines for you. Co Core could be a
Speaker 1: different line. Yes, heroin, she could be a different line. So, last,
Speaker 1: but not least, the trigger was Danielle doesn't like how
Speaker 1: Teresa calls her honey, which is oh, bless her heart, pass.
Speaker 3: Out, Oh absolutely absolutely, you know what and like and
Speaker 3: the thing is right now, it's very very funny what
Speaker 3: you can and can't say, like the word you sort
Speaker 3: of probably shouldn't say that word so much should come on.
Speaker 3: There was that whole thing in Beverly Hills where it
Speaker 3: was like oh no, no, no, you can never use
Speaker 3: the C word, blah blah. There are people who just
Speaker 3: don't like it. But no, but the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, for some reason Potts is not as bad
Speaker 3: like what's no? But you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, the bit you should say that word.
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to say that word, right? What else?
Speaker 1: But I think it's very British to say that word.
Speaker 1: And it's because it's very it's become a little more
Speaker 1: common in vernacular. I say the sea words not all
Speaker 1: the time, but but I add a why sometimes and
Speaker 1: it makes it okay.
Speaker 2: It's love you, But you.
Speaker 3: Can't go like bitch if you say, especially if you're
Speaker 3: a man going to a woman, bitch love like you
Speaker 3: can say it to another.
Speaker 2: Gay man, but you can you can't say you're.
Speaker 3: A bitch, right, But yet bitch is so funny. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, if you say bitch and everybody laughs immediately
Speaker 3: because it's like it's a funny thing.
Speaker 2: You know what, video saying that bitch has good bush. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't say that if you say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you can't. Yeah you can't. Yeah exactly, you can't.
Speaker 3: It's just not But it's a funny thing.
Speaker 1: It's by the way, No, it's back to the thing.
Speaker 1: It's if it lands, if it be funny.
Speaker 3: Ben, it's funny if it breaks, it's I love that.
Speaker 2: You know that crimes and misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to land. You got to
Speaker 1: be able to land it. So's you can't you can't land.
Speaker 1: See don't play. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm not going to ask you to come
Speaker 3: on my podcast, but just listen to the damn thing
Speaker 3: because it's great. It's called Hello Eyes, and I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: It just started and we're like number six overall. How
Speaker 3: about that in comedy? I swear to God, I swear
Speaker 3: to how that happened?
Speaker 2: Where are you on? iHeart?
Speaker 3: Yeah, anywhere you find. I love everything. I love everything.
Speaker 2: I love everything about podcasts, and you love everything about you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love you. Bye.
Speaker 1: That was amazing and ridiculous. I knew Isaac would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my producers for knowing to have Isaac
Speaker 1: Musrahie comment on a Jersey Housewives, country club, posh store,
Speaker 1: fashion show, genius.
Speaker 2: I just love it all. It's so incredibly stupid that
Speaker 2: I live for it.