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Speaker 3: I got to mind you guys, things on your age.

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Speaker 2: It just relates to everything you're going through right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, right, my buttye, i'd say my having

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Speaker 3: And that's this is the story of my life.

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Speaker 2: And that's not even part of I mean, Tracy, that

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Speaker 3: That was me when I was twenty five years old.

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Speaker 3: What are you seven?

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Speaker 4: the show, you just heard her pretty voice over there,

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Speaker 4: good old Tracy. She is here from a company that

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Speaker 4: basically legitimizes all the laboratories that we trust and depend

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Speaker 4: with a smart background. She's one of those ladies who

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Speaker 4: this is official. Why because you cannot say that unless

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Speaker 4: you're doing all these tests and they're approving.

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Speaker 3: That is that kind of overseeing.

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Speaker 6: Right, we do the accreditation of the testing laboratories for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they oversite these places, right, So Tracy suresin right,

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Speaker 2: did I say that?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is the presidents of Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. A

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Speaker 2: private third party accreditation body based in the United States

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Speaker 2: the use of international and national standards. That's the part

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Speaker 4: Accreditation without further ado, Tracy, it is great to have

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Tracy, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're closer now that you see my ass. So,

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Speaker 2: he Tracy, how was your trip?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I seen this guy's ass. He burnt

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Speaker 2: But you, Tracy, this is a crazy situation that I'm in,

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Speaker 3: Mind my uh problems that I'm having. Please, Yeah, But.

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Speaker 4: With you, Tracy and this company that you're doing, I

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Speaker 3: Are they like the police of laboratories? Break it down

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Speaker 5: So we're not we're not a regulatory group.

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Speaker 6: We're not part of the state governments for the licensing

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Speaker 6: and our accreditation it's the ISO seventeen oh twenty five

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Speaker 3: When I think of that and I hear about what

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Speaker 6: A license, and sometimes like the state will do their

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Speaker 6: we're not the regulatory body. And that's what gets confused

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Speaker 5: To turn in for their licensing requirements. So they have

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Speaker 3: How did you get that through the state.

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Speaker 4: How does a company like Harry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation get

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Speaker 4: say if you guys want this, use that company's accreditation.

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Speaker 6: So accreditations used widely in our industry. Just talking outside

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Speaker 5: So we've been around since nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: So tell me some of I mean, well before that,

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Speaker 2: who Tracy Suresen is is Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 2: sures of presidents of Perry Johnson Laboratory accreditations. As we

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Speaker 2: Your company, right, Like that's huge, So it's it's nothing

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, well you were not labor We run birthday

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're missing it.

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Speaker 3: The lab has to go. They don't have to go.

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Speaker 5: Well, we do other things, but for cannabis.

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Speaker 2: It's for cannabis for this.

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Speaker 2: they go through their process or you have a process

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Speaker 3: So they're not the actual they go to credit.

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Speaker 2: The lab goes to them to get credited and then

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Speaker 5: You know, they have a list of tests they have

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Speaker 6: So when we give them that certificate, it shows that

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Speaker 2: And there and there's other companies like yours, right yeah,

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Speaker 5: Right right, yep?

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Speaker 2: And what is it for cannabis that they need to

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Speaker 2: well let's finish this one. Then we'll get to her.

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Speaker 2: What is it that I'm curious?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got to find out exactly well, and the

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Speaker 6: Mean we want to make sure, I mean the most

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Speaker 5: You know, there's there's a lot of issues with labs.

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Speaker 6: You know, everyone talks about this quite a bit, the

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Speaker 6: It's not an unannounced type of assessment. But we do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I mean what kind of kind of

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Speaker 2: what does that cost me?

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Speaker 5: So it can depend.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, because we do compete with other credit byes, I

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Speaker 3: So it's just kind of of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so we're looking we spend a day

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Speaker 5: So the time is is AH.

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Speaker 6: typically I would say, you know, if it's a full

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Speaker 2: Wow, And you know, uh, does do you find that like, uh,

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Speaker 3: Because it's regulated.

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like, you know, the cannabis industry is

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Speaker 3: The gray area here, the gray area there.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you pass something which like you said,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that it's not known.

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Speaker 2: Is this more? Is what I'm asking I guess, is

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a really good point. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering because there's laboratory testings in every kind

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Speaker 6: This is not so you know, the laboratories are going

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Speaker 3: Does the state do that with other crops as well?

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Speaker 2: So because we're looking at a plant, right, my point

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Speaker 2: So are they doing that with apples, grapes, strawberries, other

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Speaker 6: That's going to be more under I'm just curious ideas

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Speaker 4: You to have to be able to do this, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but it's not.

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Speaker 2: You essentially go in there and then you verify each

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Speaker 3: It makes the labs right good.

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Speaker 2: I like it, and the states trust them because they

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Now, do you have a qualification in order to get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that work.

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Speaker 2: So what happens that license?

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Speaker 6: But then we'll say you must get ISO I see

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Speaker 6: And states put that in there because there could be

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Speaker 3: O, the FBI, CIA and you know, verify.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to figure out sometimes because it's sometimes people

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Speaker 3: But it's just crazy, how much like who's watching?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 3: What's watching? Well?

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Speaker 2: I had to tell someone to stop talking at dinner

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Speaker 3: Really on some conspiracy shit. It was some people go

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Speaker 4: I think it's and this is one of those ones.

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Speaker 4: I think people can go on a conspiracy on labs.

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Speaker 2: And meds and this and that and kind of the

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Speaker 2: same field area. You know what I mean, I really

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Speaker 2: going on for years, but who are the behind it

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Speaker 3: Should be doing.

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Speaker 5: So it's not really us who made the standard.

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Speaker 6: So, but we getting into the cannabis space, I mean,

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Speaker 6: we were already at crediting food labs and automotive labs.

448
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Speaker 6: We do so many different sectors and this and this

449
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Speaker 6: came about around, like I said, I think twenty ten

450
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Speaker 6: eleven when California really started putting those requirements out And

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Speaker 6: since then we've we've really done a lot of and

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Speaker 6: most of it's been seventeen oh five accreditation for the

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Speaker 6: various labs in each state.

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Speaker 2: Is California your biggest market?

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Speaker 6: I would say yes still, but we are seeing a

456
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Speaker 6: lot of shrinking going on where laboratories are possibly closing

457
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Speaker 6: their doors or maybe they're getting purchased and merge merging.

458
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Speaker 6: So we're starting and then sometimes we see a new

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Speaker 6: lab pop up too, and it surprises me a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But I would say California, and then after that would

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Speaker 6: probably be Oklahoma and then Michigan for the amount of

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Speaker 6: labs that are you know in each.

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Speaker 3: State, have you seen a lot of labs personally?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean I go and visit you know, and uh,

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Speaker 6: you know a lot of Michigan labs will go and

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Speaker 6: see in Colorado.

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Speaker 2: And so let me ask you from top to bottom,

469
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Speaker 2: I want the most extreme, like that was the most

470
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Speaker 2: awesome thing that they did in their lab too.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe these idiots had this in their lab.

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Speaker 2: Or can you. Well maybe you don't want to call

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Speaker 2: them idiots, but well you don't need to say who

474
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Speaker 2: they are, but you could just say what it was

475
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Speaker 2: that they had out, you know what I mean. You

476
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Speaker 2: don't need to say yeah, bad like a situation where

477
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Speaker 2: you were looking at a lab and they weren't ready,

478
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Speaker 2: but they're ready for them when they come in. So

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Speaker 2: they didn't do that, right.

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Speaker 5: You'd be surprised.

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Speaker 3: I don't actually do you're right, but I would. I

482
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Speaker 3: know how people are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't actually do the assessment.

484
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Speaker 6: So we hires. I mean, I'll go and observe for whichever,

485
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Speaker 6: but I'm not the person.

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Speaker 3: Doing the crazies you heard made. Then I get the.

487
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Speaker 5: Call what do you want me to do with this one?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we send like chemists and microbiologists that go

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Speaker 6: in and assess the laboratory because you need to have

491
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Speaker 6: those technical people because they know.

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Speaker 3: They go in and they report to you and you're

493
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Speaker 3: like trading.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean I have rules and requirements. So

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Speaker 6: if laboratories are there's something really suspicious and wrong and

496
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Speaker 6: they're like, how do you want me to handle my

497
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Speaker 6: recommendation for this assessment, it's like, well, sometimes it's not

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Speaker 6: over for the laboratories. I mean, we give them the

499
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Speaker 6: chance to fix things, so they have opportunity to do

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Speaker 6: corrective actions and then you know, possibly for these pretty

501
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Speaker 6: severe things we saw on their initial assessment, we might

502
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Speaker 6: say Okay, you know, good corrective action should fix this.

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Speaker 6: But we're going to come back in ninety days before

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Speaker 6: we give you that certificate, or maybe we need to

505
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Speaker 6: come back next year a bit a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 6: so you know.

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Speaker 2: And what's considered severe. What's a severe scenario?

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Speaker 6: So with the cannabis labs, for example, there's no standardized

509
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Speaker 6: test methods. That's the big problem right now. We have

510
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Speaker 6: inconsistency in the market. I mean it's getting better, there's

511
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Speaker 6: getting there are some standardized test methods out there, but

512
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Speaker 6: we got to get everyone to use them right, right.

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Speaker 6: So sometimes you know, we could find things like this

514
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Speaker 6: laboratory applied for all these tests and here's our method

515
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Speaker 6: and how we're going to test.

516
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Speaker 5: We made our own method up.

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Speaker 6: It's internal method, but they hadn't validated at all, so

518
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Speaker 6: they have no idea it works. But they're testing and

519
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Speaker 6: they're producing reports out there, so it's.

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Speaker 5: A risk to the community.

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Speaker 6: So something like that would be a pretty that's a

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Speaker 6: show stopper, you know, like why would you not validate

523
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Speaker 6: what you're what you developed here internally to test this product, right, right?

524
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Speaker 6: But sometimes there's things where clients don't know they did

525
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Speaker 6: something wrong where maybe they didn't validate it to the

526
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Speaker 6: point to where they should have for the ISO requirements,

527
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Speaker 6: and that's something to where it would be, you know,

528
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Speaker 6: definitely a nonconformity, but that's something they can fix and

529
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Speaker 6: they can show us. So most of the labs, I

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Speaker 6: would say, when we go away, no one is I

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Speaker 6: never see anyone doing anything blatantly intentionally most of the time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we usually hear about things from a creditation perspective,

533
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Speaker 6: from a complaint that can come from the outside, and

534
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Speaker 6: we get those a lot too, and some things we

535
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Speaker 6: can handle and we can deal with. But someone calling

536
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Speaker 6: to complain to us, to say, well, this laboratory is

537
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Speaker 6: doing this, I know it, and I just lost business

538
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Speaker 6: to this lab, But they don't send me any information.

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Speaker 5: It's like, well, I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't get involved in the mix of you guys

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Speaker 6: fighting over competitive lab activity.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: But if someone would send us a report that was

544
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Speaker 6: suspicious and say it, I'd have really high THG or

545
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Speaker 6: the microbial was an issue or something they can harm

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Speaker 6: someone and they send it to us, then we can

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Speaker 6: investigate it too through a process.

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Speaker 3: Well, I like everything you're saying. Think your company's Austin.

549
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear about you when we come

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Speaker 2: back from this break, because I'm gonna predict Canada. Possibly

551
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Speaker 2: I heard a yacht. I heard something that sounded Canadian.

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Speaker 2: Any prediction, Yeah, I like Boston, Boston. I was thinking about.

553
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking Boston to what I went Canadian? I went

554
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Speaker 2: Boston first day?

555
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Speaker 4: What about you, Connor prediction before we come back, because

556
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Speaker 4: we're gonna find out when we come back. Any prediction

557
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Speaker 4: where Tracy's from? This little dialect I hear.

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Speaker 3: And you hear something Tracy talk one more time? Oh, now.

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna what you're gonna guess on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean give me, give me Chicago, Give Chicago.

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Speaker 3: She's been talking this whole. But we've got Chicago, we

562
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Speaker 3: got Boston, I got Canada. I was gonna sity in

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Speaker 3: the Midwest.

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Speaker 4: Now just that Chicago's sound walking and we come back,

565
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Speaker 4: we're gonna find out who Tracy Sureson is.

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Speaker 3: It's Cannabi's talking one.

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Speaker 2: Oh we know all about the company now, so go

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Speaker 2: hook yourself well with Parry Johnson Laboratory accreditations, folks, because they.

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Speaker 3: Know what they're doing over there. Now let's find out

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Speaker 3: who Tracy is, We'll be right back over. You want

571
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Speaker 3: to hear your name down it out live on the show.

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Speaker 3: Come on any times.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty and leave on the point mail.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you like, follow and subscribe to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 3: You know what get Now back to the number one cannabis.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys see the latest edition

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Speaker 2: of the Cannabis Talk magazine, but I got a nice

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Speaker 2: little confirmation.

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Speaker 3: This morning and I was on the phone with.

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Speaker 4: Confirming ice Cube will be on the cover of the

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Speaker 4: next Cannabis Talk magazine.

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Speaker 3: Are soon four twenty edition.

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Speaker 2: And not only that's we're going over questions and this

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Speaker 2: and that. So if you guys haven't seen the latest edition,

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Speaker 2: go to Cannabis Talkmagazine dot com and check it out.

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Speaker 3: But we've got some heat coming.

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Speaker 2: Tracy Sureser Presidents of President excuse me, President of Perry

591
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Speaker 2: Johnson Laboratory's Accreditation, Inc. We've heard all about the company.

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00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: It sounds amazing what you're doing there, sounds awesome keeping

593
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: these people accountable. Hearing what's going down making sure that

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Speaker 2: cannabis is tested safe for US and other foods abroad

595
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: as well. So thank you for your guys in service

596
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Speaker 2: that you guys do there. But who is Tracy? We

597
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: took some guesses before we went to break. I heard

598
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Speaker 2: you say something, y'all. No, I don't know what I heard,

599
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: but I was like, h there's a dialect there is

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Speaker 2: that Canadian.

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Speaker 4: I can hear something Blues thinks Boston. That's what he said, though,

602
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Speaker 4: but that's what he threw out. Connor over there said

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Speaker 4: shy Town's finest Illinois. You said Chicago. But so who

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Speaker 4: are you and where are you from?

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Speaker 3: And what is your story? Young lady?

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Speaker 6: Chicago was the closest, but it's not right. So I'm

607
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Speaker 6: actually I'm from Ohio, but I'm born in Ohio.

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Speaker 5: But family are you? Guy?

609
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: You're a Buck?

610
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 6: No, no, not about guy span But I've lived in

611
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Speaker 6: Michigan more of my life.

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Speaker 5: But I am born for Wolverine.

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Speaker 3: You're a Wolverine. Okay, Okay. I love that that's.

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Speaker 2: A college area because my family is from Youngstown.

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Speaker 5: And Moore, I'm from Youngstown area.

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Speaker 2: I swear, wow, man, my dad was Raymond Wright. Yeah

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Speaker 2: really yeah, yeah, the holiday family is they're rampant out there.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, yes, that's the other side of the family,

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Speaker 2: in the right family. So yeah, wow, how the holidays?

620
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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, they're they're So what's your upbringing? Like,

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Speaker 2: where did you come from? Ohio is high school?

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Speaker 3: Junior High?

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Speaker 6: I I went to like again, most of my life

624
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Speaker 6: was in Michigan. So I moved to Michigan in ninety four.

625
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Speaker 6: Finished my school and everything in Michigan. So my life,

626
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Speaker 6: my kids are born in Michigan. My husband's from Michigan.

627
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Speaker 3: How many kids you have to hold?

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Speaker 5: Seventeen and eight?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened there? First?

631
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Speaker 2: One from somebody else or those man college college? Did

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Speaker 2: you where'd you guys meet him?

633
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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: My own husband?

635
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 6: Oh no, we we were probably early twenties.

636
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Speaker 5: Yeah when we met.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, four years ago in Michigan. No, I he

638
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: has met in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: We did meet in Michigan. He's from Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And now you guys are out here in California.

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00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: No.

642
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 5: No, we actually came by the invite for your show.

643
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 6: We wanted to come out and then we were just

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Speaker 6: at a conference in San Diego that we that we

645
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Speaker 6: did for a couple of days, so we took the

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Speaker 6: opportunity to make this a one with you guys come

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Speaker 6: out here at the same time.

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, good either way. So that's cool then, Tracy,

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Speaker 2: And how long have you been with this company?

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Speaker 6: I've been with pg LA for seventeen years, and then

651
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 6: before that, I worked for Perry's other company that.

652
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Speaker 5: Does quality seven seventeen year.

653
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Speaker 6: So I've been with Perry Johnson Companies for twenty twenty

654
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Speaker 6: four years.

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Speaker 5: This year, Wowra, did they throw.

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Speaker 2: A party for you? I mean that on top of

657
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Speaker 2: having two kids that are eighteen, because the mom is

658
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: the hardest job of everything else that you do.

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Speaker 3: Who were kidding right, Like that's the hardest one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough. I mean it's hard to manage.

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Speaker 4: You're like, I'll go to California, please, I'm coming out

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Speaker 4: on a trap.

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Speaker 6: My husband's he's very supportive, Like when I have to

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Speaker 6: travel and stuff, he's you know, we have a good

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Speaker 6: balance at home and he's able to help out with

666
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Speaker 6: things and the kids. The kids play sports, but my

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Speaker 6: son stopped. He used to play baseball a lot. My

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Speaker 6: daughter plays softball. Who's the travel my son seventeen seventeen.

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Speaker 6: And my daughter is eight. She plays travel softball. Wow,

670
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Speaker 6: she's following her brother.

671
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Speaker 3: She's five days a week then practice for softball like.

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Speaker 6: That travel well right now, yeah, about three right now.

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Speaker 6: I mean they're still pretty young, but it will get

674
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Speaker 6: to that point, you know. Yeah, but she likes that.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a good time, such a fun time. Kids

676
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: are always in practice every day of the week. Matter

677
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: if I got to pick them both.

678
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Up today, growing up so fast, nine and ten.

679
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Speaker 2: The little one's nia just turned twenty four. Yeah, the

680
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: other yesterday, come to think of it, exactly. Actually mine

681
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: are fourteen eighteen or I'm sorry, fourteen nineteen. He just

682
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: turned nineteen yesterday. Really are the twenty six? So Monday? Yeah,

683
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: yesterday or two days ago? And then and then uh

684
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Speaker 2: twenty and my son just announced that he's actually going

685
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Speaker 2: to the army, which one, Chris, can you just have

686
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: a baby?

687
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: Just had a baby. He's so smart. You're getting out

688
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: of here and I got out of here, dude. Yeah.

689
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Speaker 2: Man, Not only that, that's so dope, serving and protecting

690
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: and doing that right there, putting himself in a win

691
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: win situation. In my book, that's why I said, I

692
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: see I'm saying, dog, it's a win win. I cryed like, okay, cool,

693
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: you need your lady to sit here with the kid.

694
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: I got you to go ahead, and now you're so

695
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: she can say, well, so they showy has to stay

696
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: there for through boot camp, which is only like three

697
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: weeks now. Dude, that's such a good career. Look at like,

698
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: if I look at kids that want to go to

699
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: military career, I'm like.

700
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that'll grow them up quick.

701
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: I got some West Janue and Connor would have went.

702
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: We would have had much better students here.

703
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Speaker 4: Oh no, then we wouldn't have them put an ointment

704
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: on me. Differently, it's so great to have you on

705
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: the show. Here about you. Where'd you go to college at?

706
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: I went to private school, brought Baker College by my local.

707
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a good one over there, just

708
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: that private, little small you know, people per class, just

709
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: a lot of attention and a lot of Really it's

710
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: very smart, that's what it means.

711
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: They kicked me out of college.

712
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: Oh no, I can tell that you know people that

713
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: are in your field. And what I love about your

714
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: company and what you guys do is you were doing

715
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: something else before you came into cannabis and excelling in it. Right,

716
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: you guys are a laboratory tests that are making the

717
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: world a better world of making sure that we're getting

718
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: quality things around the world that we put in our bodies.

719
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: And that's what your company does, right. So it's so

720
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 4: dope to see a company like that jumping into the

721
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: cannabis game to really helping out. So for that, you

722
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: let the company management know that we appreciate and love

723
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: that because that's what we want to see in this industry.

724
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: Real professionals, real people who you don't have to smoke weed.

725
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything like that to be

726
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: in this industry. But if you do, so be it,

727
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if you don't make the industry better.

728
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: That being said, we like to do the high five

729
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: with everybody that comes on the show. So question number one,

730
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Speaker 2: young lady, how old you the first time you smoked

731
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Speaker 2: cannabis and where'd you get it from?

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00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 6: Probably in high school, I will say, Michigan. No, that

733
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 6: was probably in Ohio.

734
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Speaker 3: So you got some really good weed out there. I'm

735
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: just kidding.

736
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Speaker 5: But now now it's growing up and all that stuff,

737
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 5: it's kind.

738
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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, it does seventeen in high school. Yeah.

739
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: Around that, you know, everyone dabbled at times.

740
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

741
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Speaker 2: Question number two of the High five was the favorite

742
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Speaker 2: way to use or smoke cannabis when you did well?

743
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 6: Geez back then and it was like you didn't have

744
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: you didn't have like thes like you have now, or

745
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 6: you know, the.

746
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: Glass pipes and all these great little things at all.

747
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Speaker 6: Whatever you found POPCNE, that's that's that leg.

748
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 2: When you're talking about pop Michigan, Ohio POPCN. I would

749
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: have been like, Oh, she's from Ohio.

750
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: That's my dad. Don't say, oh, he's the Midwest. Can

751
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: I get some pop? We're having pop for dinner tonight

752
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: withsh some baked beans.

753
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Question number three of the High five tray c craziest

754
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: place you ever used or smoked cannabis back in the

755
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: diggity diggity diggidy day.

756
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: Boy, No, I mean, probably just.

757
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 6: Some thinko and I probably could have been in a car,

758
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 6: who knows, somewhere I really don't remember.

759
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Speaker 2: Question number four of the High five, what is your

760
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: favorite way to use or I mean, I'm sorry, what

761
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: is your go to munchie after you smoked cannabis when

762
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: you're young? Is ever like a munchie that you're like, oh,

763
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: I want pop corner.

764
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's always like that salt and then you gotta

765
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 6: have like something sweet. So probably a mix of handy

766
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Speaker 6: and ships or something.

767
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: Did we mess this up?

768
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: You know?

769
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Speaker 3: It's funny?

770
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: No, No, we're five.

771
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah you just said crazy. Okay, Yeah, that's you know.

772
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: What's funny though, is that you know? I mean, I

773
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: have to put it out there. I mean, she she

774
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: just smoked the joint with us right now for the

775
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: first time in ten years.

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Speaker 3: Really, Tracy, no ideadn't you like? Who did?

777
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: But Tracy, here's the good one because I don't have

778
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: no idea where you're gonna go with this. And I

779
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: love it when asking this question to people. But Tracy,

780
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: if you could smoke cannabis with anyone, dead or alive,

781
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: who would it be and why?

782
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: Wow?

783
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know. I can't think right now.

784
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: Anybody anybody, like somebody was like to hang out scientist?

786
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: Who's who? Just random that you'd like to like? Better? Wow?

787
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: That person the worst who to hang out with? Dead

788
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: or alive?

789
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: You know, I will say. And it's not like a

790
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 5: superstar or anything. Like that.

791
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 6: But like my mom, she passed away pretty young and

792
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 6: she was a pretty cool person, and you know, yeah,

793
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 6: it's something like that because we used to laugh a lot,

794
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 6: so I can totally see her like having some fun

795
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Speaker 6: with it.

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: So I would I would.

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: Say that how old were you when your mom passed?

798
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: I was twenty seven, twenty eight?

799
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: I was twenty six, Yeah, I get it.

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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and how old was she?

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00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: She was fifty?

802
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh I'm with fifty two.

803
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so it's hard to think about, you know, horrible. Yeah.

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00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, Tracy, is there anything we want to bring

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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: up or mentioning about the good old Perry Johnson laboratory

806
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: accreditations are yourself that you want to say before we

807
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Speaker 2: let you get on out of here.

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 6: No, I just I think we shis the opportunity. We

809
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 6: hope that people will take a look at our website

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Speaker 6: and consider us for lab credation services. We've been doing

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Speaker 6: this for a long time in this particular space, and

812
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: I feel like versus others that are out there in

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Speaker 6: the industry, we've really done a good job.

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Speaker 5: We get the industry. I think that's really important.

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Speaker 6: With the laboratories are out you know, choosing for their

816
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Speaker 6: creditation service provider is.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, no thank you.

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00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, your company is legit. You guys are

819
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: the big or Google helping out like with the it world.

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, helping out. You guys are

821
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: helping out big time. Well there it is guys.

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