1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio make way for Brady Quinn, Fox Sports College 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and NFL Studio and game analyst, and of course the 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: radio host on Fox Sports Radio Two Pros and a 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe with LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox, the 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: show that precedes hours on Fox Sports Radio. Let me 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: start with that, Brady, what do you make of that 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: vote coming up in December and the likelihood that we 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: might not have a twelve team playoff until twenty twenty five. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm keeping my fingers crossed and praying to the college 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: football gods that we do expand. I think the college 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: football playoff has that at ton of momentum, and we've 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: gotten to a point now where we've seen there's flaws 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: in the process of the thirteen person committee picking the 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: four teams to playoff for it. There's just it's an 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: unleveled comparison between conferences between schedules and those and the likes. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: So I think we've gotten to a point now where 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: expansion brings intrigue back to college football in the playoff again. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: It allows brands like Cincinnati, who I don't know if 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: they'll end up making in the top four this year 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: or not. We can have a debate all we want 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: about whether or not they're deserving, but it allows them 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: then the chance to actually make it into a playoff 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: and let's see what they can do, and let's see 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: if they can make a run. But I think greater 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: than that, Dan, it really allows more parity in college 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: football right now. What you're seeing when you see a 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: five star, four star recruit and you listen to these commitments, 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times they're saying, I want to go 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to Alabama because I want a chance at going and 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: winning the SEC and winning a national championship. You know 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of kids are seeing that when they go 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: to some of the top schools Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: You're hearing them say this. And the problem is is 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: those guys aren't looking someplace closer to home because they 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: feel like there's just no shot of going to play 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: in the playoff. You expand this to twelve teams, I think, 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: not exactly like March Madness, but you get a team 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: like Inzaga that was once viewed as a Cinderella story 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: that's now viewed as a powerhouse, and it might take 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: some time to build it to that, but I think 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: it will help build that narrative for some of those 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: programs and create more parody. So you know, could have 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: get done in a couple of weeks, I hope. So 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: it's not that complicated. We made so many adjustments over 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: last year with COVID why not, And you already had 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: a twelve team or playoff proposal that was being worked 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: on for two years by Jack Swarbrick, the athletic director 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: under name, and a few other conference commissioners. So it 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that hard to put it together. It just 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: really comes down to the alignment where these games are 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: played and how they go about structuring I think the 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: first round of that twelve team playoff. What's your reaction 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: to this proposed ten year contract for ninety million dollars 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: for Miltucker at Michigan State and you got the game 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: against Ohio State this weekend where they're nineteen point underdogs. 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: You've beaten Michigan twice, but he's only coached what twenty 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: nine games? Twenty eight games? And now you're going to 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: put him up on par with Shaban with what he 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: makes at Alabama. What am I missing here? Well? Did 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: you ever see that movie The Perfect Storm with George Clooney. 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: I did, but I honestly can't remember how it ends. 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it ends. Well. No, Well, maybe maybe 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: that's the case here too, because I think this week 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: at Ohio State may giving Michigan State the business, and 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: by the way, probably even Penn State after that, Like 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: they could go on a two game skid after announcing this. 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: But it really was the perfect storm. When you think 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: about the track record of Nel Tucker, Remember he up 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: and left Colorado after one year, and so he's already 71 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: shown the propensity to do something like that, even though 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: he's only been at Michigan State now for two years. 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: So that was probably a concern. You have all these 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: big programs now, LSU in particular, that I think we 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: both know is the one that was probably throwing out 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: some big figures or big numbers at him, trying to 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: lure him back to the SEC where he once was 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. So that plays into the structure of 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: the contract and the value. But you then have you know, 80 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: a program has kind of turned some things around, and 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: so I think they're trying to build off this momentum. 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: They're trying to build off this intrigue into the program, 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and he's able to strike on it when he's one 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: of the most wanted man's probably not only in college football. 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if there's not a few NFL teams, 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: given his NFL predigree in the past, that didn't look 87 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: in on it. So when you give him a deal 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: like this, he's basically saying like, I'm staying put, you know, 89 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: don't You don't have to worry about coming back to 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: me next year, the next year, the next year, if 91 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: there's a job opening, I'm staying put here at Michigan State. 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: It looks like a lot of money, But I do 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: think if you as you project forward, all these coaches 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: contracts are only going to go up. With a big 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: ten TV rights deal coming up soon, I think schools 96 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: are going to look at other revenue models as well, 97 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: like like professional sports leagues with Gamway to figure out 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: how to capitalize on some of that too. So it 99 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: always seems like a lot now. I think five years 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: down the road, though, you see a lot more coaches 101 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: who are up in this stratosphere. As far as what 102 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: he's being compensated, Yeah, they're gonna go in and say 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I want the Mill Tucker deal. Hey, what are you 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: looking for? Mel Tucker money? That's what I'm looking at. 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: And how is Lane Kiffen possibly up for the job 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: or be interested or whatever. It's rumored reported that Lane 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Kiffin is on the shortlist to take over at at 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: the U. What do you I mean? He spent some 109 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: time in South Florida, you know, not not too far 110 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: away up to Fau, and so I think he understands 111 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: how to recruit that area, whether it's back from his 112 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: ties at Alabama or even USC when he was probably 113 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: recruiting more nationally, and so I think it makes sense 114 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: from that standpoint. You know, they've got to figure out 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: their athletic director first. I would think that'd be your 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: first movie before you go hiring. Yeah, you're at football coach, 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: and they are. They already have many ideas, they're still 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: so that's you know, it gets a little bit tough 119 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: to talk about when there's already somebody who's in that 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: position right now. But give Lane credit for what he's done. 121 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Fau who he built up. 122 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Like my wife and I used to go up to 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the vocable which FAU would play in up there. You know, 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: every December and we go grab a burger at Shakeshack, 125 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: we go watch football games. And the transition from what 126 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: was before to what happened after with Lane Kiffin was dramatic. 127 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: It was unlike anything I've ever seen in a smaller school. 128 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And what he's done at oh Miss bringing them back 129 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: to be competitive relevant. They're talked about within the SEC. 130 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: You know Miami's looking for that. I mean Florida State 131 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Miami played this past week in dan Did anyone talk 132 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: about it? Did anyone care outside of State of Florida? Yeah? 133 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: I mean that's It's sad because I grew up and 134 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this was the matchup like of Ohio State, 135 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: Michigan and all these are the great robberies. That was 136 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: one that you circle because you knew how good both 137 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: programs were. They've both taken a dipping in the client. 138 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I think Miami's desperate to get back to where they 139 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: need to be and Lane can bring that sort of 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: buzz in this climate in college football in twenty twenty 141 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: one back to the you. In my opinion, Oh, I look, 142 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I know Lane Kiffin can do it, and he makes 143 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: you relevant, he has fun, he's laughed at himself. But 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: I never want to hear a coach complain about the 145 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: transfer portal ever again. You know, you got these guys 146 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: leaving after one year, two years, You know that. I 147 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: just don't just save the words here. Let these kids 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: if they want to come and go, because if they 149 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: go to play for a coach, then they should have 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: that opportunity to go and play for another coach that 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: they want to play for. Now they finally have. I 152 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: think where coaches complain about the transfer portal is when 153 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: other teams are trying to poach players on your current 154 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: team that aren't playing. That's where this thing gets tricky. 155 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: And this is how it works. It's actually pretty simple. 156 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: They basically have a kid on their roster contact or 157 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: maybe it was a high school teammate or played against 158 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: him in high school. They contact that player social media, 159 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: tex what have you, and they start the conversation, usually 160 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: through a high school coach, and they're like, hey, he's 161 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: not playing, he's pretty unhappy. Can you hit him up? 162 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, tell us what you think. And that's kind 163 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: of the grassroots of what's going on behind the scenes. 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: So when you hear coaches complain about the transfer portal. 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: It's more because in some cases they're making decisions in 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: game that have to do with other teams trying to 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: poach the guys already on the roster that maybe are 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: sitting behind a guy who's going to go to the 169 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: NFL next year, and they don't want to be patient 170 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: enough to way. They don't want to wait on that opportunity. 171 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: And so I think that's where more the frustration comes from, 172 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: is you're having to recruit, having to recruit transfers juco's 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously incoming freshman to your program, but also 174 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: the guys on your own roster because especially at talented schools, 175 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: everyone's trying to poach him. He's Brady Quinn, Fox Sports 176 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: College in NFL Studio analyst, the Big noon kickoff on 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Fox in Norman. It's Oklahoma and Iowa State. Give me 178 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the trap game this weekend? The one you go, oh, 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: is there one that stands out for you? You could 180 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: have said that about this game. I think for Oklahoma 181 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: had they won last week, just with Oklahoma State, you 182 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: know there for them next week in Bedlam. That was 183 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: one that kind of I was thinking of going into it. 184 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, obviously from Michigan, I think 185 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: that's the one you're looking at. They're playing Maryland and 186 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: they've got Ohio State on the other side, and you know, 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Michigan needs to win out, they need a little bit 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: of help. But that's the one that you know, they 189 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: can't really look past Maryland. I don't think Maryland's a threat, 190 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: but in reality, you know, they like to throw the 191 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: football around a little bit. Rickiem Jarrett's one of the 192 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: better wide receivers in college football, and you never know 193 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: if you get caught looking ahead or a sleepy environment 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: there in Maryland, and maybe you don't play the game 195 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: you need to. I mean, it's not like Michigan's offense 196 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: is the most prolific. They run the football effectively. Kade 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: McNamara has continued to improve throwing the football downfield in 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: particular last week and a nice comeback win. But the 199 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is they're not Ohio State, and 200 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: so they can't afford to get behind any team in 201 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, otherwise they kind of run that risk of 202 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: potentially falling short. So about maybe you look at Michigan 203 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: like that you taw against Oregon it's not a tra no, 204 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: because I think it's a trap game in the sense of, 205 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: like Oregon can't afford to lose it still make the playoff. 206 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: But you know, really, no matter who wins, they're still 207 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: going to see each other in the pactwelve championship game. 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's the crazy thing about this matchup is 209 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: Oregon can't afford to lose it, Utah probably still can. 210 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: And the irony to it too is the way they 211 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: go about picking the Rose Bowl, which is out of 212 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, out of the rotation for the semifinal games. 213 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Utah has a better chance of losing this week and 214 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: going to the Rose Bowl than if they happen to 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: beat Oregon and then they go on and play each 216 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: other in the pactwelve championship game and lose that game 217 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: because Oregan's not getting the playoffs, so they would probably 218 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: be the team that ends up going the Rose Bowl. 219 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: So it's a weird scenario. But I don't even know 220 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: if that's a trap game. I just think it's a 221 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: tough game to play in Salt Lake versus a good 222 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Utah team that's really come around with Camera Rising at 223 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: quarterback for them, Is it fair to compare mac Jones 224 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: as rookie season to Tom Brady's well, no, I mean 225 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: time than players year right, well, his first year playing, no, 226 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL is at such a different 227 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: point now too. I think when you look at the 228 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: style of offense, and you know, I remember, you know, 229 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Charlie Weis's coaching for two years, that was his offensive 230 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: coordinator when Tom first took over, and they had a 231 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: great defense. They ran the football well, they mixed in 232 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: some screens and then downfield shot. They didn't ask him 233 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: to do a time. Mac Jones is being asked to 234 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: do a good amount within this system. The way they 235 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: spread things out. They're asking to be very accurate on 236 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: time with the football, understanding where he needs to go 237 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: with the football. I mean, Josh McDaniels really requires that 238 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: from you within his system. But also I think it's 239 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: just the lack of them being able to really create 240 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: big time explosive plays at least stretching the field vertically. 241 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: So it's a part of what they have, but it's 242 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: also a part in the product of how the game's 243 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: play now. It's just more spread out. So I think 244 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you look at the efficiency, you look at everything from 245 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, and it's incredibly impressive. But it's hard not 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: to think that, you know, maybe Tom Brady would be 247 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: able to do the same thing, But look, Mac Jones 248 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: is a more developed player, and I think Tom Brady 249 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: was at that point. He was battling with Drew Henson 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: to get him that spot. They weren't throwing the football 251 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: around quite as much. I mean, Mac at least had 252 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: a year to start, and obviously the replacement duty to 253 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: two or two years ago, and I think that prepared 254 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: him well for what Josh McDaniels is asking to do 255 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: right now. And I always bring this up with people 256 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: when they talk about quarterbacks development. You know, Dak Prescott 257 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: great quarterback, Mac Jones great quarterback. We're not quite sure 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: about justin fields or trail. And I said, it has 259 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: to do with the environment you go to, especially early. 260 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: You want early success for a quarterback. You know, Mahomes 261 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: goes to a team that was twelve and four. Andy 262 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Reid offensive minded guy. I got Kelsey, I got Tyreek Hill. Okay, 263 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: you're going to succeed. Dak goes to the best offensive 264 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: line in football at the time. He's got a fifteen 265 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing running back. If he goes to Jacksonville, 266 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not on anybody's radar. You know, even 267 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes would be a curiosity, but he would still be like, 268 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that guy's you know, entertaining. It's that success. 269 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: And you know this as well as anybody. You go 270 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: to a team and it's not a good situation, whether 271 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: it's head coach, offensive coordinator, owner, all of the above, 272 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and it's hard to succeed with that, but you know 273 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: you faced it. Yeah, situation and circumstances paramount. So I 274 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: think any players success. You know, we talk about it 275 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: with first round quarterbacks because you know that's you know 276 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: that we have the most impact on the game or 277 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise, and that's really where you 278 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: build all the hype for the draft for. But I 279 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: don't care what player talking about and what system they're in. 280 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: You know, Kendrick Boorne was looked at the wide receiver 281 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: for the Newngland Patriots as maybe at best the third 282 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: option in San Francisco, a special teams player. You know, 283 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: now he's contributing in a much bigger way within that 284 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: system because of the position that Bill Belichick and Josh 285 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: McDaniels in particular, are putting him in. So you know, 286 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: you put Trevor Lawrence on the New England Patriots. I 287 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: think he's doing the same thing Mac Jones is doing. 288 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, maybe justin fields too. I think with the 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: rest of this quarterback class, different story. And that's not 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the takeaway from what mac Jones has done. It's just 291 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: mac Jones entered into the best possible scenario for him 292 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: his skill set and what he's being asked to do. 293 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: And I think there's probably one or two other quarterbacks 294 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: in his draft class that would have been able to 295 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: excel to a degree if they were drafted to New England, 296 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: but that's obviously not the circumstance. I wish Blank would 297 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: have drafted me. Oh man, now we're going down a 298 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: slippery slope because I feel like, you know, any team 299 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: I say it's gonna I'll be spurring the Browns. I 300 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: mean that was my childhood team I rooted for growing up. 301 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, well, you go back and you look at 302 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: like the good teams, you know, like we played against 303 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: in our division, Pittsburgh or Baltimore, and Baltimore is the 304 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: one that I was talking to at the time during 305 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the draft, and they had that great defense, they had 306 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: a ray running game, and you know, you would have 307 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: walked into that not having to necessarily do a ton 308 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: And so I didn't get drafted. There wasn't me ended 309 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: up being Joe Flacco the next year, and he was 310 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: able to kind of work his way in through that 311 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: system that event should go win a Super Bowl. So 312 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore is always the first one that comes to mind 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: because they're the one that I was talking to the 314 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: entire twenty second pick of the draft back in two 315 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, trying to get the know then because 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: they were going to take me at twenty three. So 317 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: that was always the one I always kind of say, Man, 318 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how different things would have been had I 319 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: got drafted to Baltimore as opposed to Cleveland. You'd be 320 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: playing for the Jets this weekend against the Miami Dolphins. 321 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: That's right, because life comes full still up at some 322 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: point playing for the Jets having to go up against 323 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and that boots heavy defense. I think I 324 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: think you did okay, Okay, I think it worked out 325 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: okay for you. I mean, who knows that then I 326 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be here with you now and then we couldn't 327 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: be a part of you know, the Joe Flacco would 328 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: be there. Joe Flacco would be talking to me. Flacco, 329 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: he would be talking to you. Different story. Yeah, have 330 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: fun and Norman always great to talk to you. Brady, 331 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: for having it. Should be fun. Be sure to catch 333 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show week days 334 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports 335 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Radio and the I Heart Radio WAPs. Tereus Rucker, country 336 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: music star three time Grammy winner, he joins us on 337 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: the program. Then do you root for a heartache when 338 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: you're writing a song? You don't root for it, but 339 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: it sure doesn't help you write a song. But okay, 340 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: because because you know, if you grow up and you 341 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: have an easy life, it's kind of hard to write 342 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: a hit like you have to go through. Adell went 343 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: through heartbreak, Taylor goes through heartbreak. It feels like every 344 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: couple of years, right, Yeah, heartbreak helps you write. It's 345 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: it's easy to write a heartbreak song, you know, because 346 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: you're writing from I guess deep down inside you you 347 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: know it's he's either to put your emotions on paper 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: when you're hurting. Okay, do you do you put your 349 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: emotion on paper? I have, yes, yes. What's what's the 350 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: painful song? What's the one that you go that one hurt? 351 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Let her cry? That one hurt? Man? That was I 352 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: was sad when I wrote that song. I was sad 353 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: and drunk. Okay, But I never understood why you let 354 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: her cry? When why not just hold her hands? I 355 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: was I was her, you know, and so she was 356 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: letting me cry. I was the girl in that song. 357 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: She was a guy, and so, uh, she was letting 358 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: me cry. I guess was she going through heartbreak or 359 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: a heartache? I was I was going through heartbreak. I 360 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: don't think she really cared what was going on? Okay, 361 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: does she know the song is written about her? Yes? 362 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Yes she does? Have I met this woman? Probably yeah? Yeah, yeah, 363 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have. Okay, Yeah, Well that's it. I 364 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: just want to know if any good to you? Who 365 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: are you listening to right now? Who am I listened to? 366 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: That That new with the record is just awesome. I'm 367 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: such a fan. She's awesome. That Sheering record. Man, That 368 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: that kid can write a song? Uh, you were talking 369 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: with the brothers Osborne. I can't stop listening to them. 370 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: You know who? I really can't stop listening to his 371 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: John Party. He's awesome. It's awesome. P A r D 372 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: Y p R D I. Okay, yes, he's awesome. But 373 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: you did something with Ed Sheer and did did he 374 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: write a song with you? Yeah? He wrote a song 375 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: that was on the Hoodie record and we wrote a 376 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: song together. We wrote a song together that's on Uh. 377 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Did we have my country record? My next record coming up? Yeah? Uh, 378 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: that's with your my masterpiece, yes, say record? Okay, yeah, 379 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: all right, So Darius is oh, you know what. Before 380 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: I get to this, he's doing something clothing wise. We 381 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: have a bet. We want to know the last job 382 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: you had before you were a singer. Okay, hold on, 383 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: it's a contest. Okay, who who wants to go first? 384 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: The last job that Darius had before he became a 385 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: full time singer Seaton. Uh man, I'm gonna say he 386 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: was a bartender. Bartender, you don't want him as your bartender. 387 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: I got a problem. You would. It would be a 388 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: great poor I would say that, but I'd have to 389 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: pour him off the carpet when it was all done. 390 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Nick Loven. What job do you think, Darius him fishing guide? 391 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: Fishing Okay, I'm gonna guess that's a No, I'm guessing 392 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: something not too strenuous with a lot of women around. 393 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Maybe saw a summer job at a golf course. Yeah, 394 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a summer job at a golf course. Okay, just before 395 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: he started getting paid to be a singer. Okay, Todd 396 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: he sold watches at a mall and he was so 397 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: sick of that job. That's why he ended up. Lady, 398 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe in turn No, no, stop your laughing, No, no, 399 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: you just encourage him. That was you worked at a 400 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: record store. Yes, I worked at a record store. Was 401 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: my last job. Yes, that doesn't really count as a job, No, 402 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: because I really only worked like Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday 403 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: because we were we were playing all the time. So 404 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: but uh, you know that was my job, all right, 405 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: I was at I was a bartender too, But you 406 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: know that was before that. What's what's the first uh 407 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: you didn't get a check back then? Like first time 408 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: you sang? What was the amount of money you got? Oh? God, 409 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: first time me and Mark played live, think we got 410 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks? We got twenty five bucks and that 411 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: basically paid for the little little pa we brought. But 412 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: we got free beer. Okay, all yeah, all right, twenty 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: five bucks of free beer. Are you into your house 414 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: right now? And Charleston? Yeah? And what do you have 415 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: behind you? What are those pictures? That's Christ that's the 416 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Christ Mustofferson uh tribute that we all did. That Uh 417 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: was really awesome. Black Here that's a picture of me 418 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: and the country man. It's my favorite picture of us. 419 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: It's really the only picture of me on the wall. 420 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: Is that one? And under that is the thing I 421 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: did for h A lot of Richie. Yeah, that's it. Okay, 422 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: I think I've asked you this before any I do 423 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: wait with anybody, let me take McCartney out of there. 424 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: You can't have McCartney Adell again, adel again? Yes, yes, Adell. 425 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: But how intimidating can it be when somebody has a 426 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: voice like that? Dude? I say, with her a thing 427 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: for lady A. And the intimidation factor was a crazy 428 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Her voice is crazy, you know. And I'm trying to 429 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: sing those high notes that Charles were singing, you know, 430 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: and she just belt it out. It was it was 431 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: like I was like, man, can I just stop when 432 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: you sing it, because I think this is a bad 433 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: but that defeats the purpose of a duet exactly exactly. 434 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: She's special, Man's special. So, Darius, in the Blowfish, they 435 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: have Monday after the Masters where they raise money for 436 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: junior golf in South Carolina. It's a wonderful, wonderful U 437 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: weekend and he invites singers. You know, people are there, well, 438 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: John Daily, but he's not a singer. But John goes. 439 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: John sings what knock knock knocking on every year? Every year. 440 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Every year, John just saunters out. I don't think anybody goes, hey, 441 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: where's John, or John your next? John just walks on 442 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: stage and starts singing. But ye, when you had the 443 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: lead singer of Earth Wind and Fire, Yeah is that? Yeah? 444 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: That Maurice White, Philip Bailey. Yeah, and he was incredible. 445 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: But he starts singing and and and Darius, he wanted 446 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: you to start singing with him. And it's the I'd 447 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: never seen you wave off a singer before. But you know, 448 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Philip sings in a different you know, that's that's a 449 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: different zip code, and he's like trying to bring you in, 450 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and you're just like waving him off like nope, he's 451 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't do that. I don't do that. 452 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: You got it? You got it. I'll yeah, Philip Bailey, 453 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to meet him. And and who else was there? 454 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Lee Elder was there? That wonderful man. Wonderful man. Those 455 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: are people I wanted to meet that day. Uh Darius 456 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: is working with Fanatics, the world's largest provider of license 457 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: sports member billia merchandise and send us some gifts here. 458 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: Uh NFL merchandise for all thirty two teams available now 459 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: the Darius Rucker Collection, fanatics dot com, NFL shop dot com. 460 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: What are you going on today? You got the Dolphins? 461 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: I got on my Dolphins flannel, you know, with my 462 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: with my name, with my logo right next to the NFL. 463 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: So it looks really really cool. That's pretty neat, is 464 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: for me being a fan like I am, you know 465 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: how I am about the NFL, and you know, to 466 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: be to have this line and it's just it's neat, 467 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: it's cool. It's something I wouldn't even dreamt about, so 468 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: it's it's really awesome. But you know what I would 469 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: love is if you just had a sweatshirt a dolphin sweatshirt, 470 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: but then you had tear drops on the sweat shirt. 471 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I do every I do every week anyway, All right, 472 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: do you want a new quarterback in Miami? No, I 473 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: want some talent around the one we got. You know, 474 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: I think to a complaint, I just don't think we've 475 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: really given him. He's been hurt and we haven't given 476 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: him a team to play with. I mean, you know, 477 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these quarterbacks get a bad 478 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: rapper because they get on a team that's not doing 479 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: it and everybody go there. They're a bus and then 480 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: not a bus. They just don't have the talent around 481 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: him to do what they can do. So I don't 482 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: I want to give two of the talent and see 483 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: what we can do. Yeah, Matt feels like that owner 484 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: wants to make a splash and give give the Dolphins 485 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a pulse here because they're pretty 486 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: bland team A flash with who Watson. That's a splash. Yeah, 487 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: that's definitely that's a cannon cannibal. Yeah. Yeah, that's blown 488 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: it all up. That's blown it all up there, you know. 489 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, when's the show I'm gonna play again? 490 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: And you know you got you need somebody out there 491 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So are you betting this year? You know 492 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm betting this year. That's like, that's like saying, did 493 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: you wake up this year? You know I'm betting this year? Okay, 494 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: are you winning this year? I was keeping this to 495 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: myself because I know I'm jexing myself right now because 496 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: right now, Dan, I'm freaking home fire. I have all 497 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna end tonight now that I said that, 498 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm on fire right now, it's I mean, shocking biggest 499 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: win of the year. What was it? Uh? And on 500 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: one Saturday, I think I want a total one the 501 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: one Sunday afternoon, I want a twelve grand total fire 502 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: on fire, on fire, hit them all, but twelve grands 503 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: nothing to you gain when it goes the other way, 504 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: when when you got to write that check. And I 505 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: want to say, this is the funny part. I'm talking 506 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: about how much on fire I am right now. And 507 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: you guys, this is not an exaggeration. I went from 508 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: a Thursday night to a Monday night where I went 509 00:26:53,840 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: one of fourteen. Bro. You you you were like Jimmy 510 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: Johnson's Cowboys. You were one in what a fourteen, going 511 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: like run round the seventh game in a row. I'm like, 512 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: I gotta win this one. I gotta go big. Here 513 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: a bad move move one fourteen. What's the biggest lawsh 514 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: ever had? Oh? I've lost double digits, been mid double 515 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: digit thousands. I've lost a little game. Yeah, I don't 516 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: do that anymore though. I'm very low key. You know, 517 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I got my numbers. I stay down. You know, I'm good. 518 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: If you want to keep that kind of watch that 519 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: you're wearing, you know, then you can't be making those 520 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: kind of dude. Hey, I can beat long as long 521 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: as they'll still let me play, go and play these shows. 522 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be okay, Okay, what do you do? What 523 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: do you do the rest of the day. Uh, As 524 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: soon as I take this off, I'm gonna run and 525 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: play golf. I'm gonna play golf with Jack. Shouldn't you 526 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: be shouldn't you be writing music here? I'm about that 527 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: with the record. You know, the world pretty much done, 528 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be. I'm thinking a little time off. Now. 529 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: Could we write you a song? You could? I probably 530 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't cut it, but you couldn't cut Yeah, I'll cut actually, 531 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: you guys want to, so I'll cut it. I can't 532 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: promise it'll be on my record, but I will cut it. Yeah, 533 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: because I was going to send it to Chris Stapleton, 534 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, he won't cut. He won't come. Do you 535 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: know that that Chris Stapleton didn't know who Adele was. 536 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: I so after he won his Grammys, after Traveler, we 537 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: had him on and and he wrote a song he 538 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know. You know, somebody said, oh, Adele won 539 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: uh whatever with your song, and he goes, w's Adele. 540 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that that guy lives in a whole 541 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: different world. If he don't know, he does a whole 542 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: different world. So it's Fanatics dot com, NFL shop dot 543 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: com if you want to check out all the great 544 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: stuff that Darius has and that company does. They do 545 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: great work. Great to talk to you and tell Jack 546 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I said, hello, have fun today, Talk to you soon. 547 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: Great talking to you go costs all right, All right, 548 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: there you go. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 549 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 550 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio 551 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: app search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Ben, host 552 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: of the fifth Hour with Ben Maller along with my 553 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would mean a lot to have 554 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking 555 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: one in God's name is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell 556 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: you it's a spin off of that Ben Maller show, 557 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Colt hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture 558 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: if you will? A world will? We chat with captains 559 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: of industry in media, sports and more every week Explorer 560 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: some amazing facts about human nature and more. Let'sten to 561 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app, 562 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. He's Jeff 563 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Van Gundy from the mothers Hip. He'll join Mark Jackson 564 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: Ryan ruco calling tonight's mAb's Sons game. That's a ten 565 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Eastern on ESPN. The earlier game the Lakers visit the Celtics. 566 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: Mike Breen, Doris Burke and Cassidy Hubbard will be providing 567 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: the coverage of that as Jeff joins us on the show. 568 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, Jeff, how are you today? Still makes me 569 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: laugh every time you say Mothership, I'm doing good well. 570 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I I was wondering about as a coach when do 571 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: you when what's the earliest you think you can get 572 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: an assessment of how good you think your team is 573 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: going to be during the season or how bad. I 574 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: would say, you don't want to underreact, nor do you 575 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: want to overreact. So I think you try to give 576 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: yourself a quarter of the season in or around you know, 577 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: twenty games. But now it's so hard Dan, because there 578 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: are so many people that sit games out for injuries 579 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: or for you know, personal reasons that it's it's it's 580 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot harder to get a gauge of what you 581 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: have because you never have your team. When do you 582 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: think will be a fair starting point to assess the Lakers? Well, 583 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I think when James gets back and he plays, you know, 584 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: ten games. And I also think because James has been out, 585 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: people have overlooked Kendrick Nunn being out. Kendrick Nunn will 586 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: be a huge addition to their group defensive intensity, some 587 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: speed and quickness which they lack throughout their roster. So 588 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I think when James and Nunn get back and you 589 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: see what they have and if you see, you know, 590 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: how are they going to play? With Westbrook, Davis, Carmelo, 591 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Anthony and James and how they fit around those four guys, 592 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: and I would suspect that probably going to stick with 593 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis from a jority minutes at the five, I 594 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: think then you're gonna know, you know, are they a 595 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: good team, a really good team or a championship level team? 596 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: What do you do with the Russell Westbrook style? If 597 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: if you want to modify, slowdown, change or can you 598 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: at this stage? No, I think you know Westbrook, for 599 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: better or for worse, is committed to his his style 600 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: of play. And I don't think you're going to change 601 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: somebody's strengths at this You know, at this age, his 602 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: strengths will remain his strengths. His non strengths will remain 603 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: their non strengths. And I think what you want to 604 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: do is maximize his strengths, try to minimize or hide 605 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: the non strengths. And I think what's really interesting is 606 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: how they going to go about Okay, when James has 607 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: the ball or James and Davis earning pick and roll? 608 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: What what you want Westbrook to do? Do you want 609 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: him to spot up and attack? Do you want him 610 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: to spot up and shoot because he will be open. 611 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: That's where teams are going to give support from defensively, 612 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: and I think for the Lakers, they just have to 613 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: decide what they think gives them their best chance. And 614 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: I think when they get when Westbrook commits, even though 615 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: it leads to some turnovers, to attacking off of on 616 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: the second side, when he's on the week side, I 617 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: think he creates some good things and I think they 618 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: need that sort of thrust to the basket. Would you 619 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: want to coach him right now? You know what? Dan? 620 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: When I interviewed for the Rockets job when he was 621 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: still a member of the Rockets, and this was in 622 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: the pandemic, and I wanted to speak to both Harden 623 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: and Westbrook. Harden didn't make himself available, Westbrook did, and 624 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: I had the best conversation with a player that I 625 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: didn't know at all when I coached Westbrook. When I 626 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: talked to Westbrook, I should say he was so forthright 627 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: in what he thought, how he saw himself, his place 628 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: in the game. I really appreciated his directness to his honesty, 629 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: because sometimes in those situations it's easier to if you 630 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: don't know somebody, just be sort of cliche ish and 631 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: more passive aggressive. And I just I really appreciated I've 632 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: always appreciated who Westbrook is off the floor. He does 633 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: so so many remarkable things. But in that one conversation 634 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: I had, maybe it was like a forty five minute 635 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: to an hour conversation, I just really appreciated his directness 636 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: and and he was I don't want to say appreciative 637 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: of my directness, but I think he. I think he 638 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: liked a direct talk and straightforward this. So it was 639 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: a great conversation. And again, you don't know someone until 640 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: you coach him, so it'd be impossible for me to 641 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: answer your question. But I think from that conversation I 642 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: would have enjoyed being around him. How do you not 643 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: take Harden not wanting to talk to you as like, 644 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: do you take it personally that he doesn't want to 645 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: talk to you? Well, I don't know. If he didn't 646 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: want to just talk to me, I don't know if 647 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: he wanted to participate in Okay, in the process. Maybe 648 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: he already knew he wanted out. I don't know, but 649 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, I just again, that's not a knock on 650 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: herten he can do what he wants. But I just 651 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: appreciate Westbrook's time and his his forthrightness very very much. 652 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: We're talking to Jeff Van Gundy. He's with Mark and 653 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Ruco. They got the MAVs and the Suns coming 654 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: up tonight. Is Luca going to play? I would they 655 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: listen to him as that doubtful, so I would say not, 656 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: which you know, he came here to see Luca and 657 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Booker and Paul all the greatness, and it's a it's 658 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: a bummer when you don't get that. But I thought 659 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: the Mavericks held up well on Wednesday. They just didn't 660 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: have enough offense down the stretch when Phoenix turned it up. 661 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: I think Steve Kerr one of his toughest jobs this year. 662 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: Coach is trying to come up with new ways to 663 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: describe Steph Curry's greatness. Yeah, he should not be able to. 664 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: I think, Dan, what you should throw down the gauntlet. 665 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: He cannot use the same adjective all years. So if 666 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: you start with superb, you've got to come up with 667 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: something else the next game, because I think that would 668 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: be as interesting as watching. Like I think people are 669 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: so used to now seeing Curry take and make like 670 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: these impossible three point shots from distance defensive pressure like that, 671 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: we've become like almost numb to how great. This is 672 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: this is something that will I can easily say, will 673 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: never be replicated. The movement off the ball, the ability 674 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: to shoot, you know, against great defense, be able to 675 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: shoot on the move, off the dribble, like he has 676 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: completely revolutionized the game, and we're never going to see 677 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: something like this, so we better appreciate it. Well, I wondered, 678 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: And I sometimes overstate my love for Steph Curry just 679 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: because I understand that that range, shooting like that, and 680 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: if you're not necessarily quick or big or strong, can't jump. 681 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: But he he's changed the game. How many players in 682 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: the history of the sport can you say have truly 683 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: changed the game? Well, you're right, just a handful, because 684 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: there's been like so many great players. But see, I 685 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: think Curry's a better athlete than people give him credit for. 686 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, the hand eye coordination, the agility, the balance, 687 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: the rhythm as you know Dan as a great shooter, 688 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: the rhythm to that shot to be able to get 689 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: it up with the soft touch from that distance. You 690 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: can't be anything other than a great athlete to do that. 691 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: So he has. He's changed the game, and a lot 692 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: of guys try to emulate how he played and Oftentimes 693 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: you see just god awful shots being shot in the 694 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: NBA because they're shooting Steph Curry shots that only you 695 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: know he should be allowed to shoot. You know, So 696 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: not every it's not equal opportunity to take the shots 697 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: he takes because only he can make them at the 698 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: efficiency level that he does. You're the head coach. I'm 699 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna give you Steph Curry's career, everything that's gone on, 700 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Katie's career, everything that's gone on, and then you get 701 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: them the rest of their career as well. Who do 702 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: you want? I see you know like you're you're like 703 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: my wife trying to give me, like box me in 704 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: and like like make people hate me. Like how about this, Dan, 705 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: you pick first and I'll take second. And I don't 706 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: care who you pick because I'm gonna be really happy 707 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: with my pick. I never knew you would back away. 708 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwyane Wade answered it. Who do you take? No, 709 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: you answer, and then I'll tell you who he took. 710 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna you're not good at I'm not 711 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: married to you. I'm only my wife can box me 712 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: and my I. He took Steph Curry, and I took 713 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Steph Curry as well. Okay, well, then to balance it out, 714 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll take Durant because if you guys want, like it's 715 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: a reasonable like, how can you not want to coach 716 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curry? Think about what Steve Kurr got. He got 717 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: him both in their prime. That should be illegal. I mean, 718 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: I watched Durant this year. You know, because we've talked 719 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: so much about how great Curry is, But I watched 720 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: Durant this year when I was a part of the 721 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: Olympic team, I'd never really been around him. I actually 722 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: been around him two times in my career the Olympic team. 723 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: When I watched him work out, Dan, I was like, 724 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: this guy's a machine his work. He didn't need a 725 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: coach there. He knew exactly what he wanted to do. 726 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: He worked at a pace that was game like, which 727 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: is unusual. A lot of guys stay out on the 728 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,919 Speaker 1: court a long time but don't get a lot accomplished. 729 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: Durant was just the opposite. Twenty twenty five minutes, full 730 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: speed every repetition, and it didn't hurt that the ball 731 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: always goes in the basket, right. So, and then the 732 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: other time was when I was coaching the rockets and 733 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: stop me if I've told you this. But we had 734 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: training camp at the University of Texas and it turns 735 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: out to be the rant's only year in college. So 736 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: we're down there in early October and we go to 737 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: our first practice and it's at ten o'clock practice. We 738 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: got there at nine. I have no idea who this 739 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: kid is on the floor, but he is going through 740 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: a workout like full speed. Okay, you know, he looks 741 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: like a talented young guy. I have no idea what 742 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: his name is. We practice, he's there the whole time. 743 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Then after we're getting off the court and million around 744 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: before we leave, he comes back on the court and 745 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: works again. We come back before our second practice that 746 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: day at six, he's on the court. He then watches 747 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: us practice, and then he comes back on the court again. 748 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: After he did that the whole week we were there, 749 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is an absolute machine. I learned 750 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: his name. I mean, now, I don't know when the 751 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: heck his classes were, but I know when we were 752 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: there for those seven days, I have never seen a 753 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: guy work like that. It was impressive. And you know what, whatever, 754 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: how many ever years it is later, seventeen years later 755 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. He was doing the same exact 756 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: thing in a shorter amount of time on courts in Japan, 757 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: and it was you know, he loves the game, He's 758 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: improved with his passing, his handle, and I mean literally 759 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: an impossible guy to guard. And so right now, you 760 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: know you got Curry, you got Yokichen, you got Durant 761 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: and they are all having these incredible years. Has anybody 762 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: broached the topic with you of an NFT. You know 763 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: the picture thing the NBA is doing where you're holding 764 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: on to Alonzo Morning's leg and you could sell that 765 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: and people are paying big money for these NBA moments. 766 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know what that means. What does that mean? Like, 767 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: isn't the picture out there? Anybody could have it if 768 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: they wanted it. I don't know why you'd want it. 769 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: But McLevin explained NFT to coach so that people involved 770 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 1: have exclusive rights, and you have the pictures out there, 771 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: but you could have ownership of exclusive rights to it. 772 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: Basically you can limit the supply. You're the only one 773 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: who is the official Jeff van Gundy Alonso Morning leg photo. 774 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: Ah well, well, that's what a great moment to try 775 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: to own my temporary insanity. See that's as stupid as 776 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: what I proposed the other day to Mark Jackson. So 777 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: think if this makes any business sense to you, Dan, 778 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: you're you're a business guy. I saw that the Lakers 779 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: the Staples Center change their name to Crypto dot com, right, yeah, 780 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: and they got paid this huge amount. What if I 781 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: changed my name legal to Crypto dot com or something 782 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: or Taco Bell, let's say, And so Mike Breen when 783 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: he comes on the year says, I'm here, there's Mike 784 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: Brain with Mark Jackson and Taco Bell. Do you think 785 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: they would pay me two and a half million dollars 786 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: a year to change my legal name? Yes? Yes, let's 787 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: get it done. Let's get it because like tonight, let's 788 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: say Ryan Ruco introduces, you know, Mark, Mark Jackson, and 789 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Van Crypto yes, or Coach Crypto yes, I'll go 790 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: like Coach Prime, like Dion Sanders Coach Crypto. Yes. I 791 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: think there's money to be made there. See. And I 792 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: think all broadcasters should change their name legal name and 793 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: then put it on their Their legal name could go 794 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: on their jacket, because how can the mothership say I 795 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: can't put my legal name on on my jacket right 796 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: when they come to an on camera. I was thinking 797 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: about that, even Dan, This is how how lonely you 798 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: get in the hotel them. How about you know, the name, 799 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: image and likeness for um college. What if all those 800 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: players just legally change their name to you know, at 801 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: center Taco Bell, at forward McDonald's, you know, Wendy's is 802 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: your point guard like and at quarterback Arby's. Yes, what 803 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that's how if I became a college coach, 804 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: I have all my kids change their legal names and 805 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: then you know, change them back when you go to 806 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: the NBA or into the real world, you know. So yeah, 807 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm onto something better than the the Lonzo 808 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: Morning temporary insanity where I look like a fool and 809 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: I deserved to be beaten, Like they should have stopped 810 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: the game right there and dropped a ring down and 811 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: made me in morning fight and just have morning just 812 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: bummel me, you know for my coming on the court. 813 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: Did you ever talked to a Longo Morning about that 814 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: where you're holding on to him like a ball and chain? 815 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: Now you know what you like back in those times, 816 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: like we played the Heat four straight years in the 817 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: playoffs and they went to the final game all four years, 818 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: and so and the and the regular season games we 819 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: played four times a year, and they were just like brutal. 820 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: So you know, you developed this like sense of like dislike. 821 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, my brother was on the other staff, and 822 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not so keen on him. During the 823 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: weeks we're playing in Miami, right, so the Morning thing happens, 824 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: and I have never spoken to Morning in my life, 825 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: you know. And so the next year, I just was 826 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be the All Star team coach, and 827 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm like dreading having to coach you know, Morning in 828 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: the All Star Game because you know, like you know 829 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to like talk to him a and B. 830 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna have to like you're gonna have 831 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: to say something about being like a clown holding onto 832 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: his leg. And so I was so grateful. We were 833 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: heading out to media day and I hadn't seen him yet, 834 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: and he came behind me and grabbed me and hugged 835 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: me from behind. I didn't know who it was, and 836 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: it was him, and he broke the ice and he 837 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: was so I don't know what the word would be, 838 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: but he was just so nice, like about the whole 839 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: thing where he you know, he could have made me 840 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: feel even worse than a he did about what I did, 841 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: so I'll be forever grateful for his kindness in that moment. 842 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: And then it took me about after the game. It 843 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: took me about twelve minutes to get back to my 844 00:47:53,800 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: anti heat. Have fun tonight there, Crypto, and that'll be 845 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: the MAVs and the Sons that'll be at ten Easter 846 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: known the mother Ship. Great to talk to you, Jeff, 847 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. All right, Dan, take care