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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawlling, bring it on, bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, Pins Girt and nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc. I'm not sure whether to start with them

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Speaker 1: what I propose as a moratorium on a certain phrase.

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Speaker 1: And no, it has nothing to do with bingo car

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Speaker 1: that you guys in front of you at my own

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Speaker 1: expense over here. When I just learned that Danny Serect

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Speaker 1: was almost a member of the initial twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: injury report, that isn't schedule to come out till oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, August twelfth, something before the first presear ballparking.

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Speaker 1: That ballparking. So we're now we're talking preseason football. Why

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Speaker 1: are you doing this to me? You think I learned

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Speaker 1: my lesson not to talk to you guys before we

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Speaker 1: start recording anything by now. So Danny, you are healthy

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Speaker 1: so we can report on what was a near injury?

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Speaker 1: You nearly falling? Is it is the heels? Are you

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Speaker 1: blaming anything? No, it was not my heels. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: almost fell flat on my face in front of our

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Speaker 1: new general manager, Monty as and fort On. What day is?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Third Tuesday? This afternoon? The four day

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Speaker 1: week threw me off. I was you really are out

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Speaker 1: Maybe from your weekend? I might need to go check

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Speaker 1: out our trainer. No, actually, not for my weekend. I'm

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Speaker 1: just all over the place. Oh my gosh, can I

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Speaker 1: get there one thing at a time? Darrenrty laundry, My goodness.

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Speaker 1: So I was leaving our studio after doing a one

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Speaker 1: on one interview with Awesome for it, and normally we

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Speaker 1: have sandbags that prop open the doors because they don't

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Speaker 1: stay open on their own. So when somebody I don't

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Speaker 1: know who shut the doors, instead of moving the sandbag

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Speaker 1: it normally is when you propped the door open. So

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Speaker 1: when Darren and I were leaving the studio to go

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Speaker 1: film a video, I walked out and went to turn

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Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, I am falling face first

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Speaker 1: and I have to grab the back the upper shoulder

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Speaker 1: of Mark Dalton in our media relations department to stop

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Speaker 1: my fall right in front of our knee general manager. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: you were going to go timber run on your face?

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Speaker 1: Darren can attest to this, yes, well, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what's more amazing that the Danny saved her

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Speaker 1: selts from near calamity or that there's a sandbag in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: production world, the TV production world, the video production world,

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Speaker 1: those are those are constants. Paul. And for the record,

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Speaker 1: since I know that Kraig Greelo's listening, can I just

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Speaker 1: and I said, Dad, I cannot have the Cowboys come

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Speaker 1: I told Craig on cover to you last week when

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Speaker 1: monte Osanfort taking over as the general manager for a

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Speaker 1: number of hours. Now, okay, first impressions based on the

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's good to hear, Hey, we ego will

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Speaker 1: I have some thoughts on that, but I like how

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Speaker 1: he handles himself. He handled himself. He certainly didn't get

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Speaker 1: than I was before he went in house, and he said,

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Speaker 1: I vaguely remember this last year, but he interviewed for

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Speaker 1: through a number of interviews. People have thought he would

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Speaker 1: be a good candidate. It's not like this guy has

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Speaker 1: would seem to speak of being concerned with the little things,

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Speaker 1: the details, that that is the Patriot way. When Belichick

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Speaker 1: the work they had done over the years and all

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Speaker 1: the drafts and all the grinding they had done, thousands

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Speaker 1: I bring that up is because if there's one thing

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals were missing in twenty twenty two, it

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Speaker 1: was attention to detail. Right. How many players, how many

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Speaker 1: coaches said, it's the details. We got a lock in,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that they settled on a GM

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Speaker 1: to be very detail oriented. Because, as we've talked about

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Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation, the little things in the NFL are

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Speaker 1: big things, and those little things can become things that

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Speaker 1: interesting because Monty was talking about how he's not just

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting of both Monty and Michael bid while

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a new start, regardless of how

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Speaker 1: I don't know about more serious, but but you're right

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Speaker 1: of more attention to detail. And I think that's also

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Speaker 1: want to of. Something that Monty talked about was putting

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Speaker 1: even if something might benefit you, making the decision that

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Speaker 1: been running with that online. Does that mean a specific

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Speaker 1: I'm sure all of that came into consideration when making

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Speaker 1: if that is the formula it's needed, could you really

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Speaker 1: here in this mid January, there is a player, at

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Speaker 1: least one perhaps more, that you expect to be in

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Speaker 1: next year's starting lineup. You think it's a lock, and

431
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: that guy is either not going to be starting or

432
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Speaker 1: may not even be on the roster. I guarantee you,

433
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Speaker 1: because the coach wasn't just tell us already, great question,

434
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Brian Windhorse now. But I mean literally,

435
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who it might be,

436
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: but inevitably there's going to be somebody. There's going to

437
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Speaker 1: be somebody that doesn't There's gonna be a player that

438
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Speaker 1: doesn't fit what Monny awesome Fort sees with some of

439
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Speaker 1: these other stuff he's talking about. There's going to be

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Speaker 1: a player that doesn't fit what a coach, what the

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Speaker 1: head coach wants in terms of scheme, or they rub

442
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: a veteran rubs them the wrong way Dexter Jackson, and

443
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: and that person's gonna be gone and everybody's gonna be

444
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: like what just happened? And that's just inevitable. How this

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Speaker 1: change kind of this might not be the intent of

446
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: you bringing that up, but can we just talk about

447
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room now? A question that was

448
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: asked Tomani Austin Fort, which was about DeAndre hopkins future here.

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00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: He posted a cryptic Instagram posts basically yes um, and

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Speaker 1: there have been rumors allegedly online that Hopkins would be

451
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Speaker 1: interested and playing somewhere else. He hasn't a trade coast,

452
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Speaker 1: so he would have to approve of that, and awesome

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Speaker 1: Fort was asked about that in his press conference, and

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Speaker 1: Michael answered, yes, that's a decision that they're going to

455
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Speaker 1: He did not. They're going to evaluate and they're going

456
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Speaker 1: to get to that in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But you would imagine, because this was all coming out

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Speaker 1: last week when interviews were going on, you would imagine

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Speaker 1: that that is something that came up in interviews, right

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Speaker 1: of maybe of hypothetically like what what do you envision? What?

461
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Speaker 1: What's something you you know you think you could get

462
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Speaker 1: you what? Don't you think that that maybe comes up

463
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Speaker 1: in those conversations, not not deciding on something, but talking

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Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff. I think maybe big picture

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Speaker 1: maybe not something about Hopkins specifically. I mean, number one,

466
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Speaker 1: if you're Michael Bidwell, before you make any hires, you

467
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Speaker 1: don't want to be putting that right absolutely, so, No,

468
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Speaker 1: I don't think there was anything specific, like and as

469
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: we talk, like we don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Part of the issue, Like I understand the question today.

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Speaker 1: It was a fair question, and I also understand why.

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Speaker 1: And to be clear, both Michael, the question was posed

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Speaker 1: to both Michael and Monty. Michael answered it. Monty smartly

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Speaker 1: decided to say I'm going to let that stand as

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Speaker 1: the answer, because there is no answer right now, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think that decision can be fully made unless

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Speaker 1: you have your head coach on board. That's number one.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of moving pieces. You mentioned. Hop's

479
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: got a no trade clause. Hop's gonna cost thirty million

480
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: on the cap this year. But if you trade him

481
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Speaker 1: before June one, which is almost when you're gonna have

482
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Speaker 1: to do it, he's going to carry a twenty two

483
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: plus million dollar dead cap. So either way, it's it's

484
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna hurt you. And Hop is probably looking for a

485
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: new contract already because he's got no guaranteed money right now.

486
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of factors involved that there's no way

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Speaker 1: that they could be that deep in conversations yet. But

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Speaker 1: it's going to be something that comes up. I think, Well,

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Speaker 1: and you don't know what he's going to command. What

490
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Speaker 1: if a team's willing to give you a first round pick? Correct,

491
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: then you know what you eat the twenty two million

492
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Speaker 1: dollars dead caps. So you and you take the first

493
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Speaker 1: round pick, you're get a first round offer. It's it's

494
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Speaker 1: absolutely done deal, he gone see it? Yeah, absolutely again,

495
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: he's got to approve it, sure, But if he's going

496
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Speaker 1: to get a team that's gonna give him that guaranteed

497
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Speaker 1: money he's looking for, that really values him, and he's

498
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Speaker 1: gonna get that contract, and he's gonna get maybe a

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Speaker 1: playoff ready team with an established quarterback, You're making a

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Speaker 1: lot of assumption. I'm just saying, you know, it depends

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Speaker 1: on what it is you shrunk the pile real quick

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Speaker 1: of who might get for you. Let's say it's a

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, Okay, a team that really needs a

504
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Speaker 1: number one receiver. Okay, let's say it's the Giants. They

505
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: come calling and they're gonna give the Cardinals their first

506
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Speaker 1: round pick towards the lower third, lower quarter of the

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Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, do you do the deal? I do

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Speaker 1: it in a minute. At this point, I probably would,

509
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Speaker 1: just because I know where you are as a football team.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, there are those teams who who

511
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: will convince themselves they're an elite wide receiver away from

512
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Speaker 1: really contending for the Lombardi Trophy. What is Stefan Diggs

513
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: done for Josh Allen and the Bills. Yeah, So I

514
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Speaker 1: don't disagree with any of that. I just I'm saying

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Speaker 1: we have to figure it out. Your your thought, how

516
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about this, the method on how you got

517
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Speaker 1: to where that is. Agree with all that, it all

518
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: makes sense. But I start thinking to myself, Okay, if

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Speaker 1: I'm and you can't wait too long, but you think

520
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: of the to do list. If you're monte Osan for it, Okay,

521
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: you gotta hire a head coach. That's absolutely number one?

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Speaker 1: What's number two? Like to me? Right now? And again,

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Speaker 1: you don't usually make a lot of changes in the

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Speaker 1: personnel department until after the draft. You're probably a little

525
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Speaker 1: too far, so maybe you can push that down the

526
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Speaker 1: road a little bit. However, you are still talking about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what are we going to do in terms of do

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Speaker 1: I want at least one of my guys in here

529
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Speaker 1: to be with me? How does that all work? You've

530
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Speaker 1: got some free agents you got to figure out now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a Hop trade would figure into all that. But

532
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: you don't have to trade Hop until the draft either, right.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting if Hop is traded for it to

534
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: happen anytime soon. I would think, to your point, you

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Speaker 1: got to solidify your personnel department. I don't think you

536
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Speaker 1: can really change it up between now and the draft

537
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: that is tough. I mean, you can talk about the

538
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Speaker 1: personnel personnel department, you know, not to mention with thirty

539
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Speaker 1: plus penning free agents. Who knows those players a lot

540
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: better than you? All the people are currently in place,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, when you can sit there and you can

542
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: watch film of pick someone you know Antonio Hamilton, but

543
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: do you really know? Okay, but wait a minute, what

544
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: point in the season was he really a one hundred

545
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: percent coming off the foot injury and the burns that

546
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like, so you need people in place

547
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Speaker 1: to tell you or you know, hey, this guy is

548
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: a plus in terms of attitude. No, this guy's a

549
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: minus in terms of work ethic. How do you know

550
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: some of these things? You can watch the film, but

551
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: you really know the player. I don't disagree with that,

552
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: but I will say that we can talk about thirty

553
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: plus unrestricted free agents, and that's a true statement. But

554
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm also going to say that there's probably I don't

555
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Speaker 1: know if you can if you're going to go beyond

556
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Speaker 1: one hand in terms of guys you absolutely want to

557
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: have back, and I'm guessing the vast majority of them

558
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: are later guys who are like, Okay, We're going to

559
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: see what we have on the roster and then maybe

560
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: we bring you back. So I think your list is

561
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: much smaller than yeah, I would say, you know, Zach

562
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: Allen and Byron Murphy. You better figure that out pretty quick, right,

563
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: those two factures. That's front burner absolutely. I think two

564
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: of thinking more on the offensive side of the ball, though,

565
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: which is very better and heavy. A lot of those

566
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Speaker 1: petting free agents is based upon your head coach. Even

567
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Speaker 1: if you're keeping a lot of the coaching staff that

568
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: was here under Cliff Kingsbury, there were still multiple positions

569
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Speaker 1: that weren't permanently filled. Your offensive line coach and run

570
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: game coordinator is what wasn't permanently filled, at least to

571
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: my understanding, that was just to get through the season.

572
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Your running backs coach, your assistant running backs coach. There's

573
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Speaker 1: tight ends coach. Everything trickled down. Ye. So I think

574
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Speaker 1: when you look at those free agents, a lot of

575
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Speaker 1: that's going to come from your head coach. And also,

576
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Speaker 1: if you're taking more so a defensive minded route this

577
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Speaker 1: time around, what kind of with their defensive coordinator, what

578
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Speaker 1: kind of scheme are they going to run? Is is

579
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Speaker 1: that going to be a drastic change, and that's going

580
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Speaker 1: to change who you want in the trenches. I mean,

581
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of decisions that when you come to

582
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Speaker 1: like a Zach Allen or Buyer Murphy, I agree. I

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Speaker 1: think regardless of what the head coach, you know, the

584
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Speaker 1: head coach or the scheme like those, those two players

585
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Speaker 1: fit here and play well. But I'm saying more as

586
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Speaker 1: a whole looking at the list, maybe they don't want

587
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: to go so veteran heavy on offense the way that

588
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: it was last year for the Cardinals. Well yeah, I

589
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: think of guys like my j Sanders, who I don't

590
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Speaker 1: know if he projects necessarily as a regular four three

591
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Speaker 1: defensive end. What if you change? I will say this

592
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Speaker 1: if you get I'm very excited for the Cardinals Undergone

593
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: podcast after the Cardinals hire a head coach, not just

594
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: to talk about the head coach, but unless they hire

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Speaker 1: an offensive guru for their head coach, which I guess

596
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: if they did Sean Payton, I guess that would qualify,

597
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: right yep. But if they hire a Flores, if they

598
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: stick with Vance Joseph, if they go to Meca, Ryan's

599
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: all we're gonna be talking about is who the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator is gonna be. And it's funny because I feel

601
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Speaker 1: like we've had to talk about those things in the past,

602
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: but it's never been like a major topic. I think

603
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: with this quarterback like, that's gonna be the biggest thing

604
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: in the off season, right absolutely. In fact, I was

605
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: just done with Wolf and I said, if you're gonna

606
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: go with a defensive head coach, he'd better have a

607
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: home run in mind when it comes to who's running

608
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: his offense, right and not from what I've seen, there's

609
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Speaker 1: no reporting on that. Does Brian Flores come with someone

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00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: in mind to run his offense advanced? Joseph Right? That's

611
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: the first question those guys will be asked, maybe even

612
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: before they even get the interview, is okay, wait a minute,

613
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: who's your offensive guy and what sort of system you know?

614
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Because obviously the biggest investment is in the quarterback, and

615
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: obviously as your quarterback goes, your franchise goes, so everything

616
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: is tied into that. Not only that, but who's played

617
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: such a major role with Kyler Murray these last couple

618
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: years quarterbacks coach Cam Turner. That's something as well of

619
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Speaker 1: If you bring in an offensive coordinator, that decision is

620
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: going to have to be made as well, obviously building

621
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Speaker 1: the rest of your staff of who are you going

622
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Speaker 1: to keep? Who doesn't fit with what you're wanting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of decisions. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: big you know, the big one is going to be

625
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator after head coach, absolutely, but a lot of

626
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Speaker 1: those little pieces as well of as you trickle down

627
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: who makes sense to keep, who's going to want to

628
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: walk away? Like it's there, there's a big possibility, it's

629
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of change that's coming. So when the

630
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Speaker 1: single biggest quote from the press commerce at least the

631
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Speaker 1: one that got the most attention, when Manias and Fort

632
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: was talking about we're looking for sustainability, not just to

633
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: collect talent, but build a team. We're looking for the

634
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: right type of players. Quote ego will not be tolerated

635
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Speaker 1: in this organization. Do you think that was directed at

636
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: one player? And or player or me? Do you know?

637
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Do you think did say the organization? I didn't say, Danny,

638
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Speaker 1: did I? I didn't? You just did? What? Did I

639
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: say that? Alloud? Some of them? Well, she was humble

640
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Speaker 1: enough to to mention she almost face planet over the sandbags.

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Speaker 1: So you know. I mean, come on, it's uh anyways

642
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: uh with I mean, look, I didn't quite take it

643
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: as being directed solely at the quarterback. I did not,

644
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: but I guess a lot of people have online based

645
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: on it because I tweeted out the quote and based

646
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: on the responses I got it directed at the quarterback.

647
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I can see that. But also, wouldn't that be one

648
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: of the most foolish things to do in your introductory

649
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: press conference would be to shade your franchise quarterback. I

650
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: can't imagine that was his intent. No, I'd agree, absolutely not,

651
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: And I would also say this, and our good friend

652
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Orgard made this point, which I agree with. But

653
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: that's why I also believe there is again we're back

654
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: to the nuance, like the nuance of Michael Bidwell saying

655
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: he's getting input from players, and everybody assumed Kyler Murray

656
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: was going to get to hand pick his coach. I

657
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: think the same thing with this. No player, no player,

658
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't care who they are, has gotten to this

659
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: point without some ego. I was told Matt Castle was

660
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: like the best part about maniosan far He's like, he's

661
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: got no ego like him. There's no way he has

662
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: no ego. Everybody's got an ego. I know I got

663
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: an ego. I know Paul's got an ego. I mean,

664
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like that on the Bengo car. No,

665
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: that was so I just feel like spell beingo without ego. Oh,

666
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: actually you can. I'm sorry. I do think there is

667
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: a possibility of making sure you temper your ego enough

668
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: so that the team comes first. And I think that's

669
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: ultimately where he would be going, because he kind of

670
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: implied that later when he started talking about you know,

671
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: mental toughness is about being able to put the team,

672
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: do something for the team that would benefit the team,

673
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: knowing that the opposite would benefit you. This also goes

674
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: back to what Michael Bidwall has been talking about in

675
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: his last two press conferences accountability. So maybe this is

676
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: a topic that came up in the interview process and

677
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: it was a discussion that they came to agree upon

678
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: of more so accountability rather than ego, but kind of

679
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: the same mindset, and it was just that's just how

680
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: mony awesome for it was maybe expressing it. I really

681
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: don't see that he was realistically in his introductory press

682
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: conference basically saying to Kyler Murle without saying to Kyler Murray,

683
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I agree, this is for you, Bud. I don't think

684
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: he's saying that to Kyler in particular, but I do

685
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: think he's saying it to a section of the locker

686
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: room that again, you can you can feel good about

687
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: yourself and your game and still do the things that

688
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: it need to be about the team. And I'm not

689
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying there's a bunch of guys in

690
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the locker room that we're always about themselves all the time.

691
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: But it's easy to slip into that. It's easy to

692
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: slip into that. It just is, and that goes for

693
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: most people. And again, I just think again, when like

694
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: I was saying before, Paul, when you go through these

695
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: press conferences, you hear a lot of big picture type

696
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: of things that that kind of fell in that. Yeah,

697
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: it was near the beginning of the press. In fact,

698
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: it was right off the top. So it was in

699
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: his no want you want to say, Look, it's always

700
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: easier to come in as the hard ass and let

701
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: up a little bit then be the other way around.

702
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: And I, with all due respect to Cliff Kingsbury, I

703
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: think that was one of his issues was he got

704
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: to the point where he came in trying to be

705
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: a player's coach and when he needed to ramp it up,

706
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: just you can't do it. And look, if you get

707
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: it right, then look at the before and after. Look

708
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: at Daniel Jones now under Brian Dable, right, look at

709
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Tuah and what he did under Mike McDaniel. Year McDaniel did,

710
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: at least if you believe the reports, restored to us

711
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: confidence that's what was lacking. So it can be done.

712
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Trevor Lawrence under Doug Peterson from

713
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: one year to the next. Okay, you've not. I'm just

714
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: named three straight new head coaches that were offensive gurus, Like,

715
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: who are the Cardinals going to do that? Is there

716
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: an offensive guru on the US? By the way, No

717
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: serious is there? Like? Is there one fans Joseph, it's Ryan's,

718
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: it's Sean Payton, and it's Brian Flores. That's those are

719
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the names we know now, now I got didn't you

720
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: get the impression Michael was making it sound like there

721
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: might be more? Yes? Absolutely, And here's the other thing.

722
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: They were targeting GM first and there's still formula in

723
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the head coach list. And here's the other thing about

724
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: hiring a head coach at this point. If you're looking

725
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: for guys that are still in the playoffs, you gotta wait.

726
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: So there is it possible that the head coach won't

727
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: be hired and it won't be named. I don't until

728
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. I mean, Paul, you and I

729
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: covered a Super Bowl where Todd Haley ended up being

730
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs head coach and they couldn't get to him

731
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: until after the Cardinals were done. That's right, I mean,

732
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: think about this. I wrote this down. Damiko Ryan's according

733
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: to reports, not only does he have a playoff game

734
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: against Dallas to prepare for, he has head coach interviews

735
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: schedule with the Broncos, the Cardinals, the Colts, and the

736
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Texans all this week, plus a playoff game to get

737
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: his defense ready for. Is that realistic? I mean, how

738
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: can you expect a defensive coordinator to conduct four head

739
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: coaching interviews with four different teams and get ready for

740
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: a playoff game. He must sleep as little as our

741
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: producer Jim Amajandro. That's the only way you could prepare

742
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: for all of that. It's fair. Well, nope, that's but

743
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do that anymore because you put it

744
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: on his New Year's resolution. No, you know what, Omo

745
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: Omo just is over there and I can barely see

746
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: him through the glass, but he just did the real

747
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: life version of the Alonso Morning Giff. I like that.

748
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: But but on to your point, Darren, I mean, you know,

749
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: more power to him if he can multitask like that,

750
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: damco Ryan's but that that's asking a lot of any

751
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: current coach in the playoffs. And again, and I know,

752
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: and we might as well touch on it since we're like,

753
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: the one offensive guy is Sean Payton. Now, would Sean

754
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: Payton wanted to be hired so he could have a

755
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: say on who the GM is probably like do I?

756
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: I personally am not bullish on Sean Payton ending up

757
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. And as of as we were ord

758
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: this right now, while they have gotten permission to talk

759
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: to him, I've seen no reports that there is a

760
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: scheduled interview with him, So we'll see. To me, it

761
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: comes down to three things. Do you think that the

762
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna give him the big big money fifteen

763
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: to twenty million a year. Do you think the Cardinals

764
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: are going to give big compensation to the Saints. And

765
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: then maybe the biggest non starter, do you think they're

766
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna give Sean Payton the sort of control that he covets?

767
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: All three of those things happening to me makes Sean

768
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: Payton a long shot. That's just me. I thought that

769
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: was yeah. I thought that all along anyways. So with

770
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: that in mind, we'll see, we'll see. You know, once again,

771
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: I get back to it. If you're going with a

772
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: defensive head coach candidate, the first and only question, and

773
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: a lot of the first three questions are who's your

774
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: offensive guy, who you bringing in, who's gonna scheme this up?

775
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Who's going to be an asset for the quarterback? So

776
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. But didn't Michael one point say something?

777
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: At least I saw a quote, and I don't remember

778
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: hearing it, So this is an honest question. Did he

779
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: say something about they expect to have a coach within days?

780
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: Was that his quote within days? No? I did not, no, no, no,

781
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: nobody something out to that effect. He said he didn't

782
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: put a timeline on the head coach. No, because I

783
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: was the one who asked the question about the timeline,

784
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: and they basically they said they're they're going to get

785
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: their their interviews going right now. I can't remember what

786
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: the exact phrasing was, but he absolutely didn't say within

787
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: days because I again, I don't think that's realistic at

788
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: this point, and you're you're actually now that you have

789
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: a GM in place, you can take a breath, like

790
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: it'd be good to have the coach in place. You

791
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: do need to know, but there's at this point over

792
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: the next three to four weeks, the GM is enough

793
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: to get done what you need to get done. Are

794
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: you going to start needing to formulate who you might

795
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: want to look at a free agency? Absolutely, but you

796
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: do have some coaches under on staff right now who

797
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: can help you with some of that, and and the

798
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: GM's going to kind of have an idea and you

799
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: go from there. So let me ask you this, when

800
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: Austin Ford says during the press coomerance that there needs

801
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: to be a quote direct line of communication between the

802
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: head coach and the GM, that there needs to be

803
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: what he calls complete organizational alignment, and then I know

804
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: on the Red Sea report, the little bit I heard

805
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Drew Stanton was talking about former Cardinals quarterback how the

806
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: working relationship between the GM and the head coach is

807
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: as important and as valuable as any aspect of an organization.

808
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: And I think we would all agree, you know that,

809
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: and that those two entities, the head coach and the GM,

810
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: have to be able to make things uncomfortable for each

811
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: other at time. They have to have that stronger relationship

812
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: where you can point out errors, where they need to

813
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: do things better, where you can hold each other accountable.

814
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I see where the Vegas

815
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: oddsmakers are putting Brian Flores as the leading candidate right

816
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: now to be the next Cardinals head coach based on

817
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: his existing relationship with Monnie Austen. Are you buying that

818
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: Danny Brian Fuloys just based on the relationship alone, and

819
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: they're years together in New England. I think anything is possible,

820
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: truly at this point in terms of what they're going

821
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: to be looking for offensive, defensive, internal, external. I think

822
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: that anything is truly possible about what the decision is

823
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: going to be made when it comes to the new

824
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: head coach. Absolutely, those relationships are important, So it would

825
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: make sense if they are interested in bringing up Brian

826
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: Flores and having him interview for the job, especially if

827
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: accountability was an issue, and that has been cited. And

828
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: what was the other quote from Michael Bidwell's original press commerence,

829
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: when a culture maximum effort culture, would you guys agree

830
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: that Brian Flores would be that sort of head coach

831
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: where maximum effort would be stressed and he would be

832
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a disciplinarian enough to hold players accountable. It would seem

833
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: to be that way, Yes, it would. Now, the Flores

834
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: thing is very super interesting. I mean Summers brought it

835
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: up from Easycentral dot com. I mean, you got a

836
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: guy who has a lawsuit going against the NFL, and

837
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: in that lawsuit is the Steve Wilkes stuff where he

838
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: mentioned the Cardinals in his one year So it's it's

839
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a fascinating if it's a fascinating thing. But

840
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you that. And we've talked about

841
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: this before. What did we say was probably gonna happen

842
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: if they moved on from Cliff Kingsbury He was the

843
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: players coach. So now you're bringing the hard ass opposite itis, right,

844
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: You're going the opposite. So we went Bruce Arians, Ye, Steve,

845
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes And what did Steve Wilkes do in the

846
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: first training camp, full contact practice. He had basically bowl

847
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: in the ring. Yes, he had Corey Peters against your

848
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: top offensive lineman at the time, whose name escapes me?

849
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: Who was that at that time? Who's Chandler Jones versus

850
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: d J. Humphries, wasn't it? It might have been? Yes,

851
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: you're right it was. I think Corey Peters against whom ever?

852
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Was like day two or three, You're right against Chandler

853
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Speaker 1: Jones to start the practice? Arians was? They thought he

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Speaker 1: arians was more of a players coach. You bring in

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes. Steve Wilkes flamed out, You bring in a

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Speaker 1: players coach Cliff Kingsbury. Now you're probably going to it's

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Speaker 1: pretty predictable. But there's nothing wrong with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you get your results. But again, as much to me,

859
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Speaker 1: this is me as badly as you want need to

860
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: make sure that you have a guy who's going to

861
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: hold everybody accountable, whether that's Brian Flores or somebody else

862
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: who is going to be his offensive guy, because accountability

863
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: is awesome. But if their offense goes nowhere like the

864
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Buccaneers had Tom Brady and I think Todd Bowles is

865
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Speaker 1: a pretty I'm gonna hold you accountable kind of coach,

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Speaker 1: and their offense didn't do very well well and the

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Speaker 1: Chargers just made a change, got rid of Joe Lombardi

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Speaker 1: was running their offense, Brandon Staley a defensive head coach,

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Speaker 1: and you saw what happened to the Chargers in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and justin Herbert, it's too good to go out like that,

871
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: which speaking of, sorry Tom Brady, and this might not

872
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: be the right podcast because I know we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: many more to come throughout the offseason. Isn't it funny

874
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: that almost exactly a year ago, Paul was making his

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00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: hot take that Tom Brady was going to end up

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Speaker 1: back home with the forty nine ers, and now suddenly

877
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: that is slowly circulating as a possibility out of Brock

878
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Purty wins the Super Bowl. So Olmo just made sure

879
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: that we knew, which was thank you very much, Almo.

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: The Cardinals actually interviewed Brian Flores in twenty eighteen in

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Speaker 1: the Steve Wilkes cycle, and at that point the report

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00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: from Adam Schefter was that Jim Caldwell would be Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores's offensive coordinator, which is interesting. That's interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: think that would be I mean, Jim Caldwell is a

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Speaker 1: guy who's interviewed for the head coaching job here before. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he has to keep in mind that was twenty eighteen.

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00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Change a lot, a lot changes, and I understand that.

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00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: But I I think you talk about I will say

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Speaker 1: this with all due respect to Kyler and kind of

890
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: where he is in his career. I think if you

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Speaker 1: had a double of Brian Flores and Jim Caldwell as

892
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Speaker 1: the two guys kind of over him trying to move

893
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: him forward. I think that's a pretty nice experienced duo

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00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: that would kind of push him to where he needs

895
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Speaker 1: to go. Did Brian Flores call his defense in Miami

896
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Speaker 1: like Brandon Staley does with the Chargers? I do not remember.

897
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Speaker 1: And Jim Caldwell, where has he been? Because I saw

898
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Speaker 1: he got a head coaching interview with Denver? I believe

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Speaker 1: where has he been the last few years? Has he

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Speaker 1: been in the league? That? Unfortunately, I don't know. Would

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Speaker 1: you like me to look that up? Oh, it's all right,

902
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I was just curious. But that is that is interesting.

903
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And Jim Caldwell has interviewed

904
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Speaker 1: here before, There's no question. So, uh no, he is

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Speaker 1: he is currently not in the league. It looks like

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Speaker 1: since he got fired. Oh, he was the Dolphins assistant

907
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Speaker 1: head coaching quarterbacks coach in twenty nineteen with Brian Flores.

908
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Speaker 1: Probably right there he goes and Brian Flores and Paul

909
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Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell's actually been in this room on the tour,

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: came in through and met him and seemed like a

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00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: very nice guy. Interesting, all right, Well, um, I tell

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Speaker 1: you it's um. I tend to think that this we

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Speaker 1: might be waiting a lot longer than you think for

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Speaker 1: a head coach. That's That's the only thing I have

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Speaker 1: to say about that, unless it is unless it is

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Speaker 1: a Brian Flores, then we might be waiting. To your yeah,

917
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Speaker 1: because there'll be somebody on a team that's still playing exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys out there who

919
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Speaker 1: are getting hot because of what they've done with Jalen

920
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: Hurts or what they've done with Josh Allen or whomever.

921
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are quarterbacks out there that play somewhat

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Speaker 1: similar games to Kyler or could so it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let the record reflect. This would be

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Speaker 1: my final comment then on a key third and two

925
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Speaker 1: with three minutes to go on the playoff game, Baltimore

926
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Speaker 1: checked in Andy Isabella and used Andy on emotion just

927
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Speaker 1: to let you know, are you do you know? I

928
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Speaker 1: believe I believe Danny said, I'm not getting that. A

929
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, when Darren I were talking about bingo card,

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Speaker 1: things to put on this card, I had I Andy

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Speaker 1: on there and I looked Darren and I said, I

932
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Speaker 1: feel like we're past that point that he will not

933
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Speaker 1: say that again. And I took it off. Paul, you

934
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Speaker 1: are this is the third week and I still don't

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Speaker 1: have a bingo and I don't know how. It's like

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Speaker 1: you've It's like you've gone through my desk and you

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Speaker 1: saw my card and you're like, I say most of

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Speaker 1: these things every podcast. I'm gonna stop. This is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I believe this is this is going

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Speaker 1: to be much better than the ongoing Coach Church. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna well, boy, Danny took that hard. It's like

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Speaker 1: this song I hadn't heard in a long time yesterday,

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Speaker 1: anybody like Jack White, Jack White, you know I know

944
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Speaker 1: of him there, so I think it's a Lazaretto. I

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Speaker 1: think I don't know it's a pop up out of

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Speaker 1: nowhere on Spotify. In the line where it says when

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Speaker 1: I say nothing, I Say everything, it makes me think

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Speaker 1: of this time of year, and that'll do it for

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