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Speaker 2: Steven Bates Welcome to the show, Steven. Appreciate you coming on, brother.

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Speaker 3: Eh, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: And now a little bit about this you guys. He

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Speaker 2: that's pushing the limits and redefining the cannabis experience through

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Speaker 2: first advanced dosing device for cartridges, allowing consumers the power

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Speaker 2: Never again will you be driven away from the sacred

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Speaker 2: further ado. Please welcome Stephen Bates to the show. Stephen,

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Speaker 2: I tried to give the description of this, is that

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Speaker 2: What a great story, and just YouTube just went at it.

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Speaker 2: So they had the vision, they said, Okay, we're aboard

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny how it happened because we it was

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's where the mecca is too. Let's just fish,

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Speaker 2: Dude. It's it's simple, and there's nothing wrong with that

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Speaker 3: We didn't want it to look like a vapor device.

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Speaker 3: Not too hard, and then you double tap again.

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Speaker 5: Joe, Joe, hold that thing up.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is amazing, you guys. It's really sleek,

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Speaker 2: Does it tell you've been smoking too much? I heard

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Speaker 3: No, So we're we don't want to shame our customers, right,

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Speaker 3: It's we're not about that. It's it's just that you

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Speaker 2: That's a good term, right there, huh, histogram and.

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Speaker 3: It shows you everything that you've consumed in the past week.

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Speaker 3: you put in there. Yeah, so when you buy a

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Speaker 3: new cartridge, you can either you manually enter it or

439
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Speaker 3: you can pick from a list that we are continuously

440
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Speaker 3: building and that has all the information about the cartridge,

441
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Speaker 3: the cannabinoid content, the terpenes that are found in it,

442
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Speaker 3: and then you.

443
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Speaker 2: Can justify yourself how it affects you. You could see exactly

444
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Speaker 2: can you in the the what you call it again,

445
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: the not instagram, what'd you call it? The logogram, histogram, histogram,

446
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: the histagram, the history of that. Can you log like

447
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: when you're doing whatever brand you picked and you put

448
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Speaker 2: in there, can you write the different effects that you're feeling.

449
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Speaker 3: That is something that we have planned for the future.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we're keeping it simple where we're focused on

451
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Speaker 3: just having you know, where you can get used to

452
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Speaker 3: the idea of switching between cartridges, because some people have,

453
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Speaker 3: you know, a quiver of three or four cartridges. They'll

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Speaker 3: use one for sleep, they'll use one, you know in

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Speaker 3: the morning. That it just depends on how it makes

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Speaker 3: you feel, and all they have to do is go

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Speaker 3: to the cartridge screen, which says new. So that's what

458
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Speaker 3: a defaults too before there's a cartridge in it and

459
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Speaker 3: you just double tab there. If there's one activated on

460
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Speaker 3: the app, then you can switch to that and it'll

461
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Speaker 3: show a different colored like bubble for each dose. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we absolutely want to bring in kind of a social

463
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Speaker 3: aspect to it where people can say, all right, this

464
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Speaker 3: is exactly how it made me feel.

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Speaker 2: Right, that'd be kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: That data is what's so important.

467
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Speaker 2: And people can look and say, oh, look at Stephen

468
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: tried pick the brand, and I'm oh, he did two

469
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Speaker 2: milligrams and oh well, he said it did this for him.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I too, actually had ankle surgery

471
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Speaker 2: a year and a half ago. Oh wow, and I

472
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Speaker 2: started using cannabis for my medicine as well. And it's funny.

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Speaker 2: The description that you described with your partner is exactly

474
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Speaker 2: what I was going through at the time, and I

475
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Speaker 2: used the cannabis's medicine for myself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting that you share that sort as a holy

478
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Speaker 2: smoked This is right up my alley.

479
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: There's an optimal amount. There's what you what you need,

480
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: and then there's beyond that, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And at the beginning when I had to surgery

482
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Speaker 2: because they had to shave my hillbone, slide it over,

483
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Speaker 2: you know, and then put two screws in and cut

484
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Speaker 2: my whole ankle open and pull out some ligaments. And

485
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: it was just really major and bad, and I was

486
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Speaker 2: in so much pain that they gave me opioids that said,

487
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Speaker 2: you know, if you overdose here or if you take

488
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Speaker 2: too much as your overdose kit, and was like, I

489
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: don't want to take these opioids like this, this is

490
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: ridiculous that I'm taking a fucking pill that I could

491
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Speaker 2: overdose so and I'm in that much pain that I

492
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: needed to take something, so they needed to give me

493
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Speaker 2: a hard drug because I was a tremendous amount of pain.

494
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Speaker 2: But I was sitting there drinking THC just everything I could,

495
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Speaker 2: and I never felt high or stone dish, but I

496
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: just remember coming down like okay, but I was still

497
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: at at the beginning, we caused so much fun finally

498
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: catching a little relief and then trying to even get

499
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Speaker 2: more relief as out, you know, the pain was going less,

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Speaker 2: but your partner and I have a very similar story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: experiencing that because the side effects of opiates are far

503
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: worse than cannabis right, oh big time. So you know, opiates,

504
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: I think are are very effective for extreme chronic pains.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you'll need them.

506
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: We need them in life, don't get me wrong. But

507
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: there's also alternatives, and if you can try to get

508
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: on something that's a little more organic and safer for

509
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: your body, then please do that. It's Cannabis Talk one

510
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Speaker 2: on one. We're gonna come back Stephen from Modes in here.

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Speaker 2: We're to do the high five with him and check

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Speaker 2: back in with this company. We'll be right back after

513
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Speaker 2: this break.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you like, follow and subscribe to Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one on one. Now now back to the number one

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Speaker 2: You know what gets Now back to the number one cannabis.

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Speaker 1: Showing the universe, Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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Speaker 2: Layload folks, just hit it, check them out on Instagram

520
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Speaker 2: at club laylo are at clublayload dot com. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank everybody around here for making this happen. From

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Speaker 2: Mondo to Move, Teddy the show Dog who's laying on

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Speaker 2: the show set right now, knocked out, Oscar Julio, daniel'connor,

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Speaker 2: cam Beach, Barcelar, Alley Sunday, Goldie Brother, Pitt, Mark Karnes,

525
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Speaker 2: Chris Frankeno, Jennifer Erica and Elvis. Thank you guys so

526
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: much for doing what you're doing. Steven Bates, the founder

527
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: and director of the product mode. This looks amazing and awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred and seventy nine bucks about hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty nine hundred and forty nine. Excuse me, and are

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Speaker 2: you guys going to be selling us now at like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, other style stores rather than just only

532
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: smoke places, because I could see this being at like

533
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Speaker 2: Best Buy.

534
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so far we focused on direct to

535
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: consumer for the time online mostly online right now, but

536
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: we will be moving into dispensaries. We've been talking to

537
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: a number of dispensaries and yeah, it's it's interesting because

538
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: although this is a vapor product, it's a cannabis device.

539
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: It is just the hardware and the software behind it,

540
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: so we could sell it in larger stores. It's a

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Speaker 3: piece of tech.

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00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: Definitely, That's what I mean. I feel like, especially with

543
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: the back end you guys had, in the engineering you

544
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: guys had, you went and got the cream of the crop.

545
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean.

546
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys got the funny to do it,

547
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: which is dope. So it's like it looks like it's

548
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: going to be a good quality product. I mean, no

549
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: one's using the same apple chips if you're not putting

550
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Speaker 2: together something great.

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: Not that I know of. Yeah, it's you know, sometimes

552
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: I think we went as far as we could with

553
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: this right, like we often think of it like the

554
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Tesla model. They started with the model the s right,

555
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: which was the most advanced, the most expensive, and then

556
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: they dialed it back over time, so once everything was

557
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: learned about on the data side, the experience, then they

558
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: were able to make different models. Right now, this is

559
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: the cream of the crop. Eventually we have a product

560
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: line of reducing the size of making it.

561
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Really what you guys are moving forward to. Then you

562
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: kind of like that Tesla model going downwards, like Okay,

563
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: we'll sell you one with not such a big chip,

564
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: not such a big hardware, not so expensive this and that,

565
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: but you'll know this is the cream of the crop.

566
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: If not want something a little more affordable, in your budgets,

567
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: then we have these, Yeah, and how long before those

568
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: are coming out?

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Speaker 3: Steve, Oh, I have no idea that is. We're still

570
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: in the process of getting to that, but right now

571
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: we are focused mostly on manufacturing this puppy and and yeah,

572
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: getting an ounce everyone.

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00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Well, dude, it has a great look, a great feel.

574
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Everything you're saying about it sounds fantastic. I can't wait

575
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: for people to try this and see what it's about,

576
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: because I can't. Really. What I really want to happen

577
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: in life is that we get more analytics and data

578
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: that proves that one milligram, two milligram up to five

579
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: milligram is good for blank heart, your knee hurts, well,

580
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: try one milligram of this if you're two hundred pounds

581
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: and you know our tried four milligrams of this are

582
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: two milligrams and every twenty minutes for the whatever you know,

583
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean, some type of data like you do when

584
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: you're I have to look at it and say, oh,

585
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: I need three to four advils. And that's what I

586
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: was taken and doing for the longest time before I

587
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: had my surgery. And this was from eighth grade of

588
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: me doing this you know what I mean. So I

589
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: had an injury that lasted forever and just gradually got worse.

590
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: So once that data comes out like that, that's gonna

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00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: be just almost game changer because of my opinion as well.

592
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: With this device to mode, it's not only technology, but

593
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: could be more pharmaceutically driven with the controlled dosage, that's

594
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: more pharmaceutical style. Yeah, it's so taking a shot one

595
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: milig I mean like you're, yeah, you're dosing in a

596
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Speaker 2: different way.

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Speaker 3: You don't go to the doctor and he gives you

598
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Speaker 3: a prescription for a bottle of pills that are different.

599
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Speaker 2: Eighth of fucking pills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, they're like, all right, it's a luck of

601
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: the drawl here, just see which one works. You know,

602
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: it's not like that. So so yeah, we really want

603
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: to fine tune and understand how to properly recommend cannabis

604
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: for specific reasons and two individuals.

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: Are you guys doing more research on that?

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00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: We are. That's so right now, most of the data

607
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: that we're collecting will be used for that, and of

608
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: course it becomes more granular when we actually get feedback

609
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: on how they're feeling. That is the long term possibility

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00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: of what we're.

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Speaker 2: Doing well, and that's just great anecdotal and then you've

612
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: got to do the further research and hopefully the country

613
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: can help fund this and everything else, because that's to

614
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: me what we need. I think our country needs that. Yeah,

615
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: because then this device then becomes like you're using this

616
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: and not only could be used for recreational all day,

617
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: but it's also now in the medicine cabinet too, of

618
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: like a real device.

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Speaker 3: That's the two splits because we I historically have been

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00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: a recreational user and there's very very few times that

621
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: I've used it for medicinal purposes. So I approach this

622
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: with I just want to know how much I'm consuming

623
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: because I didn't before, and that's really powerful to put

624
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: a number to what you've had either that day or

625
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: throughout the week. But there are people, you know, many

626
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: of our consumers use the mode device for PTSD or

627
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: endometriosis or you know, there's extreme anxiety. But they've always

628
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: found that there is a specific amount that they want

629
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: and they want to track it and as soon as

630
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: they especially with PTSD, if they go over that amount,

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Speaker 3: it can exacerbate their symptoms. It can cause panic attacks.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. That's what I love about your

633
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: product right there. It does those type of things for you. Yeah,

634
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: where it's like, if you're tracking it, you're going to

635
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: be able to identify what's your perfect amount for these

636
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: type of medicines. I'm just taking a veterans. I'm thinking

637
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: of anybody who's dealing with anything, post traumatic anything. Yeah, right,

638
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, this just gives me that edge off.

639
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: Like I was talking to somebody earlier that's oh, I

640
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: had to take a microdost of mushrooms and I think

641
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: it was just too much, but because I needed to

642
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: call whatever the reasons were they were describing. But it's like, see,

643
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: that's we still don't have enough of that research. We

644
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: still don't have enough of this evidence to help people

645
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: use this natural medicine.

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00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: This is the missing data set.

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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. Your guys are a piece

648
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: towards going in that direction. I really love what you

649
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: guys are doing. Steven. You you know Connor, I don't

650
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: care what you were saying about him earlier. This dude's

651
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: a good dude. His device is cool. He was like,

652
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what this fucking thing is. It looks

653
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: like a pager or I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: And we've said a lot of people they're like, wait,

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00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: it looks like one of those like old the cell phones,

656
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: remember the flip phone.

657
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: Oh, totally a mini one.

658
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: Well like, as soon as the cartridge is in, it's

659
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: got the antenna.

660
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's it's really sleek and cool.

661
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Connor, I can't wait for you to feel this.

662
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: It's really nice for the office, are you.

663
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Oh, do we have any cartridges around here? I wonder

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00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: we got to get that.

665
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: We might, we might.

666
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: You got to use it for that lot. Everybody just

667
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: use your own cartridge and everybody smokes it here. It

668
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: just tries it here.

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Speaker 5: No, it's cool. It looks like something for men in black.

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00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: It does right, except it's all white. Fully exactly. We're

671
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: gonna do the high five. Here we have Stephen bas

672
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: the founder and director of the product mode. Stephen. Five

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00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: simple questions, five good answers. How old are you the

674
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: first time he smoked cannabis? And where'd you get it from?

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Ooh, I was sixteen and a half. I think, yeah,

676
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: sixteen and a half. We're at It was in Pennsylvania

677
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: in a tent next to a friend's lake.

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00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Is that where you grew up in Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 3: I grew up mostly in California, but moved to Pennsylvania

680
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: when I was ten. So, oh wow, where were you

681
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: at in Kelly Pasadena, Phillips Ranch and then Los Osos?

682
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: Do you know San Luis Obispo area? Yeah, we lived

683
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Speaker 3: in loss Beautifularia. Amazing area.

684
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like one of those hidden gems.

685
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one knew about it. Yeah yeah or obay.

686
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: You could buy a house back then, like a nice

687
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: big one for like two hundred, probably thousand, and it

688
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: just be like rolling. And then this house now is

689
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: probably worth two million.

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00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we we wish we would have

691
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: held onto that house.

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00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: I will say that, right, that's one of those things

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00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: you grew up going.

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00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Damn it. Who knew this area is going to be

695
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: this hidden gym.

696
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: It's a surreal and beautiful place.

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00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: And close to the water. I mean you're not far. Yeah,

698
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: just down the coast, down the one on one right.

699
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: Highly recommend Montana Deorro. I don't know if you're beginning

700
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Speaker 3: to hiking or anything. Montana d Oro is fantastic, like

701
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: untouched beach that they have these golden cliffs that end

702
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: of the beach. It's a short, flat beach area and

703
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: then the roughest ocean you've ever seen. And it's just

704
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to describe.

705
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna take you down there, Connor, We're

706
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: just gonna walk it together one day, just me, you

707
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: and Teddy hitting the hold hands exactly, whatever it takes.

708
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: Question ever two, the High five. What's your favorite way

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00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: to use cannabis?

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00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Uh vapor? Absolutely through the mode, Yeah, through the mode.

711
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: Cartridges in general, I think are are they are my favorite.

712
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: It's it feels cleaner, you know, I think newer formulations,

713
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: the flavors are spot on. It's convenient.

714
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: It's just nice and simple and quick. It is the point. Yeah,

715
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean, of course I love the know this, know

716
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: that that it's in your pocket, you pull it up,

717
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 2: boom boom boom, you're done, and it's a portable Yeah

718
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: right and literally yeah, it literally is. That's why I

719
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: look at it too, going, why wouldn't eybody just be

720
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: doing this?

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00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the process of you know, grinding flour

722
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: and rolling a joint is.

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: It's a fun ritual. Though, I get that I get it,

724
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: and it's social. We're sitting here, we're hanging out, we're

725
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: gonna have dinner. One might as well roll a joint.

726
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: We've got to waste three hours of hanging out anyways.

727
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: So I mean that's always the classic, right.

728
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: As far as like myself with using cannabis and traveling

730
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: or anything like that, cartridges have been Where to go for.

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00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: Me, where's the craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis?

732
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: Craziest place was at one of the highest points on

733
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Speaker 3: the Inca Trail in Peru.

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Speaker 2: To your way up high.

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: It was it was like the sun was setting, we

736
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: were at the top of the mountain. There's this fog

737
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: rolling in. There's like one one other peak that was

738
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: off the trail. The fog was like rolling off the

739
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 3: top and just covering the entire valley we're looking out.

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00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: We went with a small group and we made friends

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00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: with these two Swedish guys, super funny guys, and one

742
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: of them just pulls out a joint and he's like,

743
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: We're like, all right, we just went to the edge

744
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 3: of this mountain smoked and oh that just watched the scenery.

745
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 4: It was great, what a great movie.

746
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Right there. You just took me down. I was like, oh,

747
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: that sounds nice. Question number four of the High five,

748
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: what's your go too much is? After you get high?

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00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: Oh man, my friends are gonna laugh at this. Pizza rolls.

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: I love pizza.

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 6: Roles, the little frozen ones that like away this little yes,

752
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: oh my, I've tried to get the nicer ones, but

753
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 6: I you know, the toastinos ones are good.

754
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: I wish they had a pineapple pizza version of them.

755
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, those are you.

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00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: At least like a air fire or something. Okay, Yeah,

757
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: putting those in an air fire would be good. Those

758
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: are would be bombed as we made some for my kids,

759
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: and I'm like, let me have one of those.

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00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 4: I would say, good.

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: The best way to do it microwave for like three

762
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: quarters of the way and then throw it in the

763
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: air fire to get it a little crispy, but not

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Speaker 3: all the way through it.

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00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, fatty at heart, dude, you're a skinny fatty.

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00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: I like you here. That's a good fatty trick. That's

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00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: a really good one. Question number five of the High

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Speaker 2: five Stephen Bates, the co founder or founder director of

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Speaker 2: the product Mode. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone

770
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: dead are alive. Who would it be and why?

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00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: Alexander von Humboldt explain. So he was the naturalists that

772
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: Humble County was named after. He has over four hundred

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00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: plants named after him, two hundred animals. He has a

774
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: a waterway like an ocean current that's named after him.

775
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: What's his name again, Alexander von Humboldt.

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00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: Alexander von Humboldt.

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00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, right, just one of my favorite, uh biographical

778
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: books is called The Invention of Nature, and it's about

779
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: his life and you know, just growing into the naturalists

780
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: that he became. And he's just a fascinating person. So

781
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: I think not many people in the cannabis space know

782
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: about him.

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00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: I've never heard his name.

784
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Oh you should read this book. It's fantastic.

785
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: Where's he from? Where's he from?

786
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: No, he's from, uh like Austria or Germany.

787
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, sounded like some Central European.

788
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but it's like he somewhere around there. But yeah,

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00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: I think he was German, but he's it was just

790
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: fascinating and obsessed with kind of figuring out how nature works.

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it sounds like.

792
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good description.

793
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: That's the first time we ever heard that one, and

794
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: it was very cool hearing it.

795
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: Definitely at first, I'll tell you, yeah.

796
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: I want to hear a little bit more about this guy.

797
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: Please send me the book. I'm ordering on Amazon right now.

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00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, Well, thanks, Steven. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: else that we forgot to mention about your company or

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00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: a buddy that you want to mention about your product

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00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: before we let you get out of here.

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00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: Well, we're We're currently selling on our website. The website

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00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: is www dot Mode dot co. So the co is

804
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: very important. Dot com goes to a completely different company

805
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: and we often get emails from their customers. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you can you can buy the units there. We're

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Speaker 3: doing a ten percent off for the show and nice

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Speaker 3: I Heeart ten is the code all over the case.

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Speaker 3: And uh yeah, we're currently back ordered, so we are

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Speaker 3: working as hard as we can to fulfill units. But

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Speaker 3: like I said earlier, the demand has been intense, and

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Speaker 3: uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're once you get it, folks, You've got to try it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Mode. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one Mode

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Speaker 2: dot co. Don't get it twisted, don't go the com.

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