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Speaker 1: Snag Richard.

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Speaker 2: Show smart small small, small, small Small.

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Speaker 1: Here comes Haze and Sean how.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood, Hamburg, bring it home, bring it on what we

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Speaker 3: already have? A Hatch?

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Speaker 1: I know that's the issue.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the last time you were here, he

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Speaker 3: was in our lives, but he wasn't like our lives.

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Speaker 1: Our lives, and that's what it's become.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's become.

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Speaker 1: This young man is my wife, I saw my moon,

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Speaker 1: my stars. Mhm, that's such. What else is there to say?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I know your you sort of drift in and out

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Speaker 3: of the show. The gentleman who cuts our clips is

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Speaker 3: named Zach Sure, and your name's Thatch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do we need to Yeah? What is it?

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Speaker 2: I'm leaning now. I don't have any I don't have

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Speaker 2: anything to do with the clips or or work for

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Speaker 2: or with you guys. So it doesn't seem like it's

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Speaker 2: much of a.

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Speaker 3: Zach Cherry, Zach cherry. You think your parents were just

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Speaker 3: trying to say, Zachary.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance origin of mine? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would love just to build a foundation of honesty.

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Speaker 3: Oh wouldn't that be nice?

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Speaker 1: We're going in between.

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Speaker 2: Sitting in between you.

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Speaker 1: There's I just think the podcast will go a little

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Speaker 1: better for all of us if we.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'll be more comfortable of.

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Speaker 1: A modicum of honesty. It's in our exchange today. You

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Speaker 1: say you have nothing to do with the clips, you

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Speaker 1: don't want anything. Why then, do I see you making

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Speaker 1: such crazy effort to be noticed by us by walking

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Speaker 1: around in the background of other people's contract right wearing

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Speaker 1: our hat?

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Speaker 3: Sure, how would you mysteriously don't have on today?

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Speaker 2: Well, if we want to be fully honest and transparent,

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Speaker 2: that is not one of your hats, because your heads

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Speaker 2: do not fit my giant head. That is a head

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Speaker 2: that my wife bought for me and put an iron

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Speaker 2: one of your things onto.

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Speaker 1: I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, And Kevin is going to throw up from.

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Speaker 2: All the lies that that's not a lie. I I

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Speaker 2: I received one of your wonderful hats from Kevin. It

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Speaker 2: didn't fit my noggin. My wife remedied the situation. Who

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Speaker 2: did appear in the.

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Speaker 3: Video remedied remedied, She remedied it. She's exposing theologists destroyed

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Speaker 3: a lot of people's hard work, is what they is?

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Speaker 4: What she did.

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Speaker 1: That's what you think, And I mean a lot of

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Speaker 1: people work really hard on scientology. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't happen by accident.

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Speaker 2: It's still it is.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we were trying to do basically with

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Speaker 3: this with the hat.

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Speaker 2: The hat pack, Yeah, was create your own Yes, And

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, like, if anything, I've heard your goal.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's sad that your wife stayed up

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Speaker 1: all night hammering a patch into your hat, and then

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Speaker 1: she so tired the next day and you take the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to step out with an unidentified woman that was

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Speaker 1: the market.

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Speaker 2: That was my wife, that was that was okay, through

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Speaker 2: a farmer's market.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make her your wife.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see if this, Let's see if this

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Speaker 2: fits the noggin. Let's let's test it out.

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Speaker 1: What's special about that one? Kevin? Big and tall?

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Speaker 2: Oh it is big and tall. I only need one

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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, that looks good.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna give me a headache, but it

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Speaker 2: fits on my head.

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Speaker 3: Well, then we're even.

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Speaker 1: Fucking guy. I just wish I wish I could just

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Speaker 1: watch a cheese pole. These days it was.

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Speaker 2: Noodles, and I wish.

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Speaker 1: I wish these cheese pools would just be cheese again.

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Speaker 3: Can we stop making it everything but cheese at the

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Speaker 1: And you're pretending not to notice when you're in the video.

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Speaker 1: You're pretending not to know that you're like in the

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Speaker 1: background of the thing. Meanwhile, you've you've clocked the exact

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Speaker 1: type of content being produced, clocked after can I make

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Speaker 1: this about me?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: A camera?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Check it out? A camera? Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: What if your wife sees it?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no, this is my wife. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now you're the riddle of the I can't operate on

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Speaker 2: this boy. He's my son, she is my.

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Speaker 1: Let's phase it.

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Speaker 3: You were trying to have a Coldplay concert moment no

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Speaker 3: one cared.

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Speaker 1: Now to.

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Speaker 3: The first thing you brought up, yeah, on my podcast,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's that's fair. I do, I do.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping to sort of have a have a good.

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Speaker 2: Day because it has gotten contentious in the past. But

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Speaker 2: I was I'm sitting very openly.

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Speaker 3: Why so, why so? Why did you start off by lying?

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Speaker 2: You know? Is it is it?

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Speaker 3: Do you think we won't like the real you.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was being honest. Uh, and I

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Speaker 2: don't really, I really don't know what you that's so answer?

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Speaker 1: You feel like honesty?

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Speaker 3: Is not like he was being honest, that'd be sohired.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so sick. Well, he's an actor.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's an actor, right. He makes believes so

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Speaker 3: hard that he even believes that he's, you know, doing

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Speaker 3: the experiments on people's brains or whatever on whatever the

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Speaker 1: Where is he is so weird?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for acknowledging my work.

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Speaker 1: What have you been doing.

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Speaker 2: Today?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: This that part today.

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Speaker 1: Last time you were here, we talked about your appearance

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Speaker 1: what's been up?

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Speaker 3: Is that episode still the lowest rated one they have?

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Speaker 3: Is that one?

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Speaker 2: I don't They don't tell me the numbers?

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Speaker 3: the Well I was on every episode seven podcast episode.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of one episode of a podcast putting

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Speaker 1: the show that the podcast is based on in jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one you listened to, They're the one we

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Speaker 2: in every episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess that was the primary one where they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the one of the few I appear.

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Speaker 1: So it's a show where they just interview you. That

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Speaker 1: was part of it. In every episode, that was part

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Speaker 1: seems to be the only part you want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see the guest listed in the title of

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Speaker 3: then there's like and there's like where they say, you know,

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Speaker 3: forty or fifty higher rated ones. They don't have like

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Speaker 2: They don't put your names in every episode of Hollywood

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Speaker 2: Handbog unless that's changed, Kevin, I don't know when I listen.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I actually can't speak to whether

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Speaker 1: of live my life. I don't painstakingly document every one

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Speaker 5: Now you're me of documenting all these at The thing

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in you, I'm interested in other people, and then.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to go back on to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm at sea. I'm lost because you're going like, well

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Speaker 3: because I'm just here actually to learn about you and talk.

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Speaker 1: To you, and I am here to learn for sure,

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Speaker 1: But I guess you think I'm here to be taught

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Speaker 3: I was getting.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you're supposed to know this about me.

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Speaker 2: Was asked to approach today, what honesty?

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Speaker 1: Who am I being? I me? Either? I think he

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Speaker 3: Literally in the kindest way possible. I'm trying to just

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Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like that. It doesn't feel like that.

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Speaker 3: Knows how long it's been.

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Speaker 3: It's like, who's a character that like remembers everything.

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Speaker 1: It's like he doesn't Memento.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean you know what I mean bad but

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Speaker 1: He's very giving with his with his memories, and.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is that he can't remember anything, so

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Speaker 2: If you were in.

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Speaker 3: It, I would trust your memory of it because I

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Speaker 1: It that was since you since you weren't, Since you

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Speaker 3: It, you probably are budging it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And there are other.

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Speaker 2: Characters who remember things Sherlock Holmes or or Adrian Monk, Mister.

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Speaker 1: Monk or.

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Speaker 2: Psych guy mmmm mm hmm. But Memento was was It's

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Speaker 2: gonna sound harsh. Memento is a bad example of what

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Speaker 4: And I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't. You're you're putting me in this position to

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Speaker 2: I have to step in and.

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Speaker 3: Let me know when you're done.

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Speaker 1: Because this is like, just make sure I'm for ever.

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Speaker 3: I just want to make sure I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I think you think that Emmy would have fixed you.

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Speaker 1: What friend?

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Speaker 1: And is this the problem?

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Speaker 2: That is how I don't see it's a way competitive.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: And you see what you do is art quote. I

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Speaker 2: I wonder if I do wonder if it would have

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. I mean, I think we can has nothing

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Speaker 3: The work on the show, the actual show, not the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the podcast matters, thank you, And the kind of

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Speaker 3: That episode did numbers. Boy wow, that one was fucking

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Speaker 1: Of no consequence.

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Speaker 3: It's what it is, and it's and that's great, and.

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Speaker 3: Is being watched, you know, and you outside of the

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Speaker 2: I didn't miss my chance to be in the Cheese

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Speaker 1: So that was your campaign, huh.

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Speaker 3: Because we're trying to figure out that's what we're trying to.

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Speaker 3: We saw Trammel getting it in there, putting it out there, saying,

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I kind of would like that that that would be nice,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Sure about Demi trophy, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It seemed nice. I was pretty close to it.

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Speaker 1: That like physical yeah, physical proximity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never know how close I was to They

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Speaker 1: And even then, the one that they let you be

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Speaker 1: I think And I can say that now to you.

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Speaker 1: No one else in your life will say that they

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Speaker 1: can't risk And once again, that was not the real one.

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Speaker 3: They know he has a real one.

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Speaker 1: Please please please think about this. You think they would

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Speaker 2: I guess I did think that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that was the entire idea. That's what the

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: That whole the whole show was that they didn't do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna have you there?

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Speaker 2: That actually makes me feel good. Yeah, that makes me

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Speaker 1: He's thinking about you?

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Speaker 2: What's Truman's first name?

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Speaker 2: No, No, famously not him, the one from the show

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Speaker 1: Capoti?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm lost. I admitted I'm lost.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to them. That's my friend.

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Speaker 1: That's your friend too.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to see when my friends, you know, are recognized.

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Speaker 3: For everyone who won that night, was your friend? Is

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I consider it a pretty small community of artists,

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Speaker 3: However, the usage behind the message here, have some.

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Speaker 1: Relationships in your life that you'd rather not disclose. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Don't don't try and put words in my mouth and

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Speaker 3: I want to clear your throat real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I know.

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Speaker 1: That was better that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that felt good. Here the some of the people

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Speaker 2: And I don't even really want to get I just

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be on record saying that they

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Speaker 3: Case they get away with it.

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear. Yep, let's be clear.

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Speaker 3: I like to love that.

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Speaker 1: I vote, yeah, I second, I second those.

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Speaker 3: Guys my free votes for Let's be clear.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are not my friends. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: How many of those guys aren't there?

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Speaker 2: It's hard to keep track. There's a new one of

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Speaker 1: Wow, well they just got one of those guys they did?

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Speaker 1: How'd they do that? Well? Were you involved?

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Speaker 3: Now they get that guy?

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Speaker 2: They they do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, when they get one of them, do you

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Speaker 2: I am not a member of these guys community.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what I'm trying. I'm not friends with those guys.

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Speaker 1: Those guys aren't my friends. There's another one. Ever did

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get out ahead of what you were.

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Speaker 2: You as soon as as soon as I said I'm

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Speaker 1: They just got one of those They got one of

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Speaker 3: connect to. So he's talking about people who don't have

455
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Speaker 3: their formal PaperWorks.

456
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't need either way, I don't,

457
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

458
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think this is what the podcast should

459
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Speaker 1: be about.

460
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't either. And I was not going to accuse

461
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Speaker 2: you to some of those guys.

462
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I actually am friends with some of those Okay, Okay,

463
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: remember when I mentioned that you would be like sitting

464
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: at the table, you know, breaking bread with these people,

465
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: and it was just like this instant reaction, as if

466
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: touched by a hot fly.

467
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: Away. I'm not part of that community, someone that would

468
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: never well, I would never taste of broken bread. Again.

469
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't claim to speak for them, is what I meant.

470
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Speaker 3: Great, great, great analogy.

471
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: You could the light going out I had.

472
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't speak for those guys, is what I meant.

473
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Speaker 3: Just because of the language. I just want to say,

474
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: girls can be those guys. Yes, girls can be those

475
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: guys too.

476
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: They can be typically in terms of the guys I

477
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: was talking about, Oh Jesus, In terms of guys I

478
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 2: was talking about at the beginning, it's usually.

479
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: Leave no stereotype unturned, will not rest until he has

480
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: dug this great.

481
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Speaker 2: It's usually I'm saying in terms of the type of

482
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Speaker 2: guys who I was initially talking about. It can be girls,

483
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: but it's most often guys, Zach.

484
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: When I listened to the single lowest rated of this

485
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: episode of the seventh podcast ever, I could feel that

486
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: so much had been edited out, and I just thought

487
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: it was because that was just a little bit. It

488
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: was just interminable, like the the just the length at

489
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: which you would speak without pause. It was yeah, to

490
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: tighten pauending. But now I'm realizing that it was actually

491
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 3: for content as well.

492
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Speaker 2: Can we cut? Can we cut most of this stuff?

493
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Speaker 1: I'd like to go back?

494
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Speaker 2: Can we cut most of this?

495
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Speaker 3: We release the four weeks? We have to release this

496
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Speaker 3: in three or four weeks. We don't have time to

497
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Speaker 3: edit it. Unfortunately, it comes out three or four weeks

498
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: from now because we can get a bigger guest in

499
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: between now and then five or six.

500
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Speaker 2: I was a Christmas episode. I'm now worried about how

501
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to come off out of contact in the

502
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: clips that this guy and you've already put You've already kind.

503
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: Of each other.

504
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, he's the other guy.

505
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: He's trying to protect what's his at this point.

506
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: And so I'm now a little worried about how based

507
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: on some of the stuff we said about different types

508
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: of guys and like what I would or wouldn't.

509
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Speaker 1: Be if we could, If we could please go back,

510
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: here's who I'd like to talk to.

511
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I just.

512
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Think it would be nice whatever, I think it would

513
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: be nice to reacquaint ourselves with Emmy nominee Zach Cherry,

514
00:27:53,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: and create a little distance from Emmy loser, Zach Cherry, and.

515
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Who's spiraling out of control before.

516
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: My very eye. If we can remember what it was

517
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: like to be Emmy nominee.

518
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: Just when everything was possible, when the when the Emmy

519
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: shaped hole was finally going to be filled and we

520
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: would no longer have to act out on every part.

521
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Speaker 2: Sure I can.

522
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I can get there, because obviously, I mean it was

523
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: like very very clear seeing you in that time between

524
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Speaker 1: the nomination and the failure that you you thought, I'll

525
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: just say that, like like you thought this was a

526
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: done deal. It was a lock and you were headed

527
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: for a crash. You were out way over your.

528
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: Skis and a lot of this stuff.

529
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Speaker 1: I started to visualize what and I didn't think they

530
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Speaker 1: I don't think they should have said be word you thought?

531
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: From where do you think? Yeah? I mean, I don't

532
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: let's say that stuff. But like I don't think you.

533
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, when they gave the award

534
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: to Tremall, I don't think they should have looked at you.

535
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: It said B word you.

536
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: Thought I was that was crazy?

537
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: When they zoomed in on you on screen.

538
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: It didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. I think

539
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: that might be kind of what's happening with me in

540
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: terms of like what I was saying earlier about what

541
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: types of guys I wouldn't want to be friends with.

542
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: Is you got to remember I just recently went through

543
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: a like a traumatic, a pretty.

544
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Traumatic breakup with an old uh old lady.

545
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shocking moment, right when your perception of

546
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: yourself and your life and your art as an complete

547
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: utter juxtaposition with reality and with what with what the

548
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: world is telling you is going on. Yeah, that's really

549
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: hard to cope with. And people have all different strategies

550
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: to sort of get back to baseline. Some of them

551
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: slander the community of you know, undocumented some of.

552
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: The large that's not who I had, that's not who

553
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: I had initially.

554
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Different what he's saying, I even consider what's going on.

555
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't even.

556
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Speaker 2: And I still don't want to say their names because

557
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: then you'll say I'm friends with them. But I was

558
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: thinking of a different group of guys who have a

559
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: who have.

560
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: You seem to be thinking about them a lot?

561
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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't even know who you're talking thinking about

562
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: them NonStop, that you brought them up first, and you've

563
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: brought them up constantly.

564
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: And I think I hear someone who is searching for

565
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: a community, yes, yes, where he will be respected.

566
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: And somewhere that will embrace him, and.

567
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Where they will give him a big price that would

568
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: be nice, yeah, and not pretend to give it to

569
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: him and then give it to his guy he thinks

570
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: is his friend, and then making fun of him and

571
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: then say, bitch, you thought. I mean, it's crazy that the.

572
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 9: I was.

573
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I was happy for him and he was. It was nice,

574
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: he is my friend.

575
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: You didn't feel like his speech was making fun of

576
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: you specifically.

577
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: I guess some of it was, yeah, because like my

578
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: friends don't do that when I when I lose an emmy,

579
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: my friends aren't like making their entire speech about I mean,

580
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: making fun of me, including the parts that I didn't

581
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: even think it was about me.

582
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't do a close read of it.

583
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: But it doesn't I'm not even in that place anymore.

584
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm in the window between can I challenge

585
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: nominee and I would say that you are no?

586
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I challenge that with with with the the counterpoint that

587
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: you are there, You're still there, You're sitting in the

588
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Nokia Theater.

589
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: No I'm not.

590
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Let me just piggyback on what Hayes is saying and

591
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: challenge that a little bit, your previous statement that you're

592
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: not in that place anymore. I actually loved your instinct

593
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: hate to challenge that, and I would like to issue

594
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: my own challenge to that idea and to say, actually,

595
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: you are in that same place.

596
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not I'm I'm a nominee and I'm not

597
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: at a loser. I'm in that spot. I'm in that.

598
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: You're seated.

599
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm seated.

600
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: You're in the see theater, Nokia Theater, waiting to hear

601
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: your wife is god knows where. Well.

602
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: The woman in the in the cheese video was next

603
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: to me at the ceremony.

604
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 8: M h.

605
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: Your new wife from the viral video fairly mm hmm.

606
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: And you are seated. You are as I always like

607
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: to say, especially guests like you conceited and it's all

608
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: about you, and it's all what can I get out

609
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: of this? You know, how will this help me? I mean,

610
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: even coming on this show today, you know it's been

611
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: just a NonStop promotional tour. You wanted to talk about

612
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: your Emmy nomination, which I wasn't even thinking about it.

613
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: I didn't bring up. I didn't bring that up.

614
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: So would it help to do some cognitive behavioral therapy?

615
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: I think that Yeah, I think therapy can help anyone.

616
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Let's go back.

617
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: I just want to go on the record and say,

618
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm for these guys.

619
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Speaker 3: I think, well some of them, Yeah good, I'm asking.

620
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: Just the way you had talked about it before, it

621
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: sounded like you, you know, didn't even want them to

622
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: have help.

623
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: But I think it's a different group of guys. There

624
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: can be lots of kinds of these guys, different groups

625
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: of groups of guys.

626
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Let's go back. Let's indulge the premise that you have

627
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: actually left the Nokia Theater and you're and you're here

628
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: there and instead of back there, I am, I'm here

629
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: with you. Let's go back to the theater. Who are

630
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: you wearing?

631
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 10: Uh?

632
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: It was some guy who made.

633
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: He made suit toys Presidente.

634
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: He might have made toys. He was uh Greenfield, I

635
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: believe green He made suits for presidents. They told me

636
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: Truman president ed.

637
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: True. I should actually know you might want to get specify.

638
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: Get in trouble. Uh not the not one of the last.

639
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Couple, not one of the last two dead ones only No, no,

640
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: some of them are still hanging out. But Martin Martin, mmmmm,

641
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Martin Martin, Martin, Martin van boring, What was Martin?

642
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Well, who is Martin? Are you watching?

643
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: Martin?

644
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 7: Over there?

645
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: He's watching Martin, watches Martin. He's chastising for some of

646
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: his behavior Martin. Martin will be getting up to some

647
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: stuff that will force Kevin to have to have to

648
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: say something.

649
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: Martin, Martin, stop that. You're making the situation even worse

650
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: with these antics.

651
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: So you're wearing green Field, I think.

652
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: Okay, you if you had asked me that see, this

653
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: is how you know I've left that place, because if

654
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: you'd asked me that day, I would have known him.

655
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I know, I've I've moved on.

656
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Who or who are who? Are you you sitting with

657
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: the woman the video the woman unidentified? Yes? Okay, anyone

658
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: else here? Are you on the issle?

659
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: No, we're in the middle of the row, in the front.

660
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like the sat in the middle,

661
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: like they're not expecting you to have to like get off.

662
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: Hold on, Let me challenge that a little bit.

663
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: This guy seems like he'll be really good at making

664
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 3: his way from the middle to the aisle.

665
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: Let me challenge that that would apply in any other row.

666
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: But I was in the front, so I don't have

667
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: there's no barrier to I can just get up and

668
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: walk on stage. I could have walked up on what.

669
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: You're just gonna scramble up the front of the state.

670
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: Climb the front of the stage.

671
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: I could have easily.

672
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: I don't think they want to you.

673
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Did you try? We couldn't see below frame was did

674
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Tremuel have his shoe on your face?

675
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: When I when I when I heard my friend's name,

676
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: I got so excited for him that I did try

677
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: to get up there because I wanted to. I wanted

678
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: to be the John the Baptist to his Jesus. I

679
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: wanted to tell the world that he's coming, and so

680
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: I was going to give a little speech. But they

681
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: were able to convince me not to.

682
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: What I was told from people who were at the

683
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: ceremony was that it was a January sixth type of vibe.

684
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: The way you were trying to get onto the stage.

685
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: So it's fair.

686
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's a little less John the Baptist and

687
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: more the sort of conservative.

688
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: Shop At the time, Jesus was executed for his views.

689
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: So you were about to go execute yes, because you

690
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: were characterizing John the Baptist did not perform his view.

691
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: John the Baptist was a a A.

692
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: Four bearer.

693
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: He paved the way. He did not execute Jesus. But

694
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: to paint me as some sort of radical revolutionary, sure, yeah,

695
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: maybe I am mm hmm, And sometimes that's a good thing.

696
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Who are your fellow nominees?

697
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: My friend Trammel, and my friend John, and my friend Jason,

698
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: and my friend Sam.

699
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: A diverse group, and my friend Hearing. A lot of men.

700
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: They they that's how they categorized. It's all those that's

701
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: how they categorize. The categor You distracted me, so I

702
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: wasn't able to finish saying all my friends names. But

703
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: Kevin can put them up on the screen.

704
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: They put a lot. There's just a lot of guys.

705
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: This year.

706
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: Zach will be the one putting them up on the screen.

707
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 6: Zach.

708
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't like to talk about Zach, But John, Jason, Sam,

709
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: and you and and.

710
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: There I can't remember. There might have been a few

711
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: other of these guys.

712
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: There sounds fun, Jack.

713
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: And you're sitting there. They cut to you, who's presenting?

714
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember?

715
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: I did.

716
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: I can see why you don't remember, because you had

717
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: both hands on the arm rests that you were like

718
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: half launched m hm as they were reading everyone's name

719
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and even as they were describing.

720
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: What a supporting actor is, I was trying to be supportive.

721
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I think it might have benefited you to to hear

722
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: that definition.

723
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: I find I'm I'm when I.

724
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: Watched the show, I'm like, do.

725
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: What it means to with his acting? It's I mean,

726
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: I feel the same way when I listen to the

727
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: podcast that he's on.

728
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to show I was being supportive.

729
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: It's like, you're a guest.

730
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: You're a guest.

731
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Hm, you're a guest here. I would like to show

732
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: that I'm.

733
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: A supportive So you you got into how was your how.

734
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Was your Emmy's weekend?

735
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: And to you, I you know, uh, I.

736
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: Like to take that time for myself. Okay, that's not

737
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: that's not something that I feel the need to sort

738
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: of be very public with this big Dog and Pony show.

739
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm you're probably aware I have specifically requested to never

740
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: be involved with the ceremony or any.

741
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Kind of like to make things that that challenge people.

742
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this sort of.

743
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Like like oh, like everyone like instantly gets.

744
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: It and everyone's in lockstep, just like this is rubber

745
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: stamp does the new thing?

746
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: We like what I want legacy like for the masses.

747
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: I think I'm kind of weird this way. It's like,

748
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: but you guys want my stuff to like last?

749
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: Is that crazy or something?

750
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 10: You guys win a web You're nominated for an iHeart

751
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 10: iHeartRadio podcast for our for our ad reads, which I

752
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 10: think is in keeping with what we're even describing, which

753
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 10: is like we just kind of want our stuff to last,

754
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 10: if that makes sense, until like actually like stand the

755
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 10: test of time in some ways and not be so

756
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 10: of the moment that everyone currently is just going like,

757
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 10: this is what we're doing.

758
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: Have your sister or president for assigning me my favorite show?

759
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: I might have won his suit.

760
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: So they're trying to explain to you what president that

761
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: he mentioned. You are in a three point stance getting

762
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: ready to scramble up onto the stage from the front.

763
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: That's right.

764
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: They say a name that isn't yours.

765
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: That's right, which I thought was a mistake.

766
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: And then that's very clear.

767
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: I thought we might have had a little bit of

768
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: a La la land situation.

769
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: It was very face you were making like you felt

770
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: really bad for.

771
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: Oh, no, ruin. This is going to ruin him, and

772
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: Trammel is going to be so upset when he finds out. Well,

773
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: it was it was, don't do that, this is so.

774
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Tough for them.

775
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: The camera guys trying to go be elsewhere.

776
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I had a grip on his I know, yeah,

777
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: I snatched that what do they call that camera? Camera?

778
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: See right?

779
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: And he Treml gets up there. The presenter looks at

780
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: you and said, like before handing the mic to Treml,

781
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: takes it back for a second, looks at you and says,

782
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: bitch you thought, which.

783
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if did that make the broadcast so unnecessary?

784
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: The feed that I was watching, obviously I kind of

785
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: take that weekend to myself, So I don't you know, Uh,

786
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: the feed that I was watching hot it just in

787
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: a caption under you it said.

788
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: This at the.

789
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so at least you got to see it because

790
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot of my best stuff they cut from.

791
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: That from the broadcast. Yeah, okay, what was some of

792
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: the stuff that that didn't make it out.

793
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: And got an opportunity to do it here.

794
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: And this is while your.

795
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: Friend was trying to talk before after her during Yeah, okay, Yeah,

796
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot of I was doing a

797
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: lot of reacting when when some when one of my

798
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: friends want I would go.

799
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: That's really nice, that's really supportive.

800
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: And my my alleged wife was next to me, and

801
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: sometimes they would make a joke and I would turn

802
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: her and go, pretty good.

803
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 3: You're letting her know that she's allowed to enjoy that.

804
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: No, I was just trying to it's a long day.

805
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: You're a fraid she won't get there.

806
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: No, it was a long day, and I was just

807
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: trying to keep everyone spirits up.

808
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: But it seems like you are. You have some feeling

809
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: of responsibility to kind of hold her hand through the

810
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: process of hearing a joke.

811
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Certain not really her world, certain certain ones. It was

812
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: more I was just they were just like, make sure

813
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: that she's staying with us for the checking in.

814
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Now, what I saw, because you had commandeered this one

815
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: camera for yourself, is that you went in the back

816
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: and pulled what it looked like you thought was a

817
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: fire alarm. Yeah, but was it was the icy machine

818
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: and you actually made a pretty interesting new flavor because

819
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: you pulled them all at once.

820
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did it. It It didn't taste great.

821
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: And it didn't. It's just kind of interesting about it.

822
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: Nearly as much tastes pretty good.

823
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could it possibly go wrong? Because if you.

824
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: Get enough flavors, it starts to it starts to get

825
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: kind of like And.

826
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: It did end up creating an emergency worse than a fire.

827
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets really I mean they had to evacuate ultimately,

828
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: so because it was very difficult. Yeah, and but everyone

829
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: was slipping and sliding on all the icy all over

830
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: the ground.

831
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: Well, have you ever felt something so stinky you gotta

832
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: just get out of there. You get it all all

833
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: over your hands and stuff, and you just are like,

834
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: I can't, I gotta be anywhere but here.

835
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: No, you've never had that.

836
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: No, Okay, okay, every time, you know, every.

837
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Time I want to be supportive, I try and relate

838
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: to either of you, I would love I'm searching my

839
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: memory banks to try and find just like the closest thing,

840
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: the closest parallel to what you're describing, and just like

841
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: I can't.

842
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: It's potentially an interesting idea and I have no way

843
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: to access it at all.

844
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: So I've been accused of being conceited. I've been accused

845
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: of being self obsessed. And every time I try and connect,

846
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: every time I look to one of you for a

847
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: moment of connection, I am met with judgment, derision.

848
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: It's been very interesting, though, I will say, because I

849
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 3: think in general, you know this as an artist. There

850
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: is this idea that the specificity becomes universal. That's right,

851
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: and that when people really dig into their own unique experience,

852
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: somehow by getting kind of granular with those details they do,

853
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: you weirdly end up connecting the more people. And that

854
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: has never felt less true than during this episode. What's

855
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: this makes your hands on? I don't know what you mean.

856
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you mean. I don't even know.

857
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: What's the stinkiest thing you ever got your hands on?

858
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: You probably probably your episode of the Separence Podcast.

859
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so actually I think you maybe can really.

860
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: Which I'm like the only one who've ever heard, maybe you.

861
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: Can relate because you don't want to be there, you

862
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: want to get out of there.

863
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I did I did hear him say I gotta be

864
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: anywhere but here. I did hear him say that.

865
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: So actually you can relate now. Heyes, what's the stinkiest

866
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: thing you ever got your hands on?

867
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: H I guess it would.

868
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: And you didn't know it was gonna be stinky because

869
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was gonna be so stinky. I

870
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be noisy.

871
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Probably be the uber eats commercial, my Uber eats commercial.

872
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Is this stinky?

873
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: Now?

874
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if I should change my answer. I had

875
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: forgotten about that commercial. Ooh, that's big tech.

876
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: That's tough feedback to hear. To me, it wasn't stinky

877
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: at all in intention. But that's an interesting thing as

878
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: an artist.

879
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: And that's good to know. That's actually really helpful to me.

880
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: You don't always once you put it out there, it leaves.

881
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: It's no longer your baby. That's a relief because we

882
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 2: didn't want it to be stinky at all. Wow, because

883
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: you don't stinky food.

884
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: I am reeling at this news.

885
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: It's raising so many more questions for me.

886
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, uh, there could be a whole documentary about

887
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: this commercial, apparently, because if that's not what was the intention?

888
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: Top to bottom?

889
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: So many things had to go wrong. So can I

890
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: ask you thought, I mean, fish stinks from the head.

891
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: Of course your head is the one seeing on screen.

892
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: Fish stinks from the head. Yeah, I've never.

893
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: Heard that before you But but you were sorry to

894
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: say that you thought.

895
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: I you know, I think I was. I was wondering.

896
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: You think you thought we went out to make it

897
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: stinky and we nailed it. Y, I thought you intended

898
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: to make it stinky in a different way.

899
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was not successful, but did end up

900
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: producing something kind of brand new?

901
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: Yes?

902
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 4: No I didn't.

903
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me be clear, I didn't.

904
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: What I was watching for the stars, aim on the moon, shoot.

905
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: For the moon, even be missing among the stars the moon.

906
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Well that is.

907
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: Technically, I guess true. But there's also and you know,

908
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: this is an artist, there's things that are true, and

909
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: there's things that feel true. And the stars being closer

910
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: just feels true.

911
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Can we check in with uh, I mean, Nominie's actors

912
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: before we sure have to leave here, Let's just see

913
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: where we were.

914
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: I guess originally I was thinking more of like Kevin Spacey,

915
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: as one of those guys who you might say, wow,

916
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking of as like a guy like that.

917
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: Wow mm hmm, well, i'd say, and I'm not friends.

918
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm not friends.

919
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I can think of literally one difference, Yeah, one single,

920
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: there's different.

921
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: One thing I know that you two don't do not have.

922
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: In common, which is a Best Supporting Actor Award.

923
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: He won an Emmy.

924
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: No, there's actually other and they told me not to

925
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: tell you about these.

926
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 3: There's like a whole other.

927
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: I just felt like I needed to say. That's kind

928
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: of more who I'm a kind of award.

929
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: There's other kinds of yeah, other kinds of awards.

930
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he probably did win an Emmy, but it

931
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 3: was for Best Leading Actor, right.

932
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: Probably they give awards for what like ad reads and stuff.

933
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: There's actually a whole other kind of he won a

934
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Best at a thing. Yeah, yeah, it's like he did

935
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: he win the year that you were up.

936
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: The iHeart Radio Awards. I don't think so, God damn it.

937
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: If you wanted to do, he probably could have. Let's

938
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: not throw out the baby with the bathwater. The guy

939
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: could read an ad.

940
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: Do we have thatch before that?

941
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: We could check in with Let's just see if it

942
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: feels different than you need your headphones fellows.

943
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, I remember what I said so I probably don't

944
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: do it's.

945
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: Bind you on the other Saturdays.

946
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: I can read the comments. Now used to be a problem.

947
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: No comments, Yeah, a single comment, My god, start the conversation.

948
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: So this is from the Television Academy Foundation's Instagram account

949
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: from September nineteenth, scoop trip, if we could get a

950
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: couple of comments going for our guy? I really I

951
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: did it for a foundation celebration.

952
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: Like when you guys found out about this sweek.

953
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: You know, exclamation points were all over the place and

954
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: emojis and yeah, what.

955
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Does do That is not the sound of someone who

956
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: was allowed to participate in the celebration.

957
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: It's just not the same guy who's sitting here either.

958
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 2: I'll admit I don't know what I was talking about.

959
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh it's in coherent.

960
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: But there's a joy to it as well.

961
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: He's become a fan favorite. You know, his passion and

962
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 4: you know that what we learned about him and his wife.

963
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: You know what's been the most fun part working with

964
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: everyone on the show, working with Merit this past season.

965
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: Was working with everyone on the show has been the

966
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: best part.

967
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: That sounds generous.

968
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: There is is there such a thing as being so generous?

969
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: It means nothing at all. Who's hearing that and thinking.

970
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, best support? I was support, best support.

971
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: Working with everyone, me to everyone, ooh, that.

972
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: Means me saying and like, when I read those scenes,

973
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 4: I wasn't quite sure how they would play out, because

974
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: actual scenario that could only happen in the world of

975
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 4: our show. But when we started reading them together, I

976
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, now I get it. So working with

977
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: her was awful. You're not how cus are you about that?

978
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm very excited. I think the first thing I did

979
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: Broad City, I did like a very small one line

980
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: role on broad City.

981
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: Now I didn't maybe this was cut. I didn't hear

982
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: her say take me through your entire career blow by blow.

983
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: You're the only person I'm going to be speaking to

984
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: for the rest of the evening.

985
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: I've got I might have edited that. Yeah, can we

986
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: see did she say that? What did she say?

987
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: I can't scroll back to start.

988
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: Over yeah or not? But I think yeah, and and

989
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: just like her, we don't have all day for that.

990
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: But it is interesting that you decided to go back

991
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: to like a a one line or a couple of

992
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: lines role.

993
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: And what what were those lines?

994
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Hmm, somebody called right.

995
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: It's it's also feels surreal and it's it's like I

996
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 4: haven't even fully processed yet.

997
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that suit. Also I felt a little shot

998
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: at Broad City too. It's like he believes like here

999
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I am. And just a few years ago I was

1000
00:55:54,120 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: on they gave me just a couple of lines on

1001
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Broad City. They thought.

1002
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: I should only have a couple of lines. And then

1003
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: I think their asses very canceled extremely off the air.

1004
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: And who's still here with more than a couple of lines.

1005
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm actually loving working with everybody on the show.

1006
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean everybody on the show.

1007
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: Oh he mentioned me, Sweety, get in here. He's talking

1008
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: about me.

1009
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Where is the lie?

1010
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 6: Is the.

1011
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: Do we have any more?

1012
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Sorry? Where is the lot?

1013
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 11: If I were have to told you that your first

1014
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 11: Emmy nomination, that.

1015
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: If someone says that to you, it's it's possible they're

1016
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: having a medical issue, and if you could step outside

1017
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: yourself for just one second.

1018
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: It's maybe not the place to be ridiculing them laughing

1019
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: in their face as they are experiencing.

1020
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: It's if I wore told you. If I were, I'm

1021
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: not told I have told you.

1022
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: Obviously I had empathy, but I can't.

1023
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 3: If I were have to told you that your first

1024
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: Emmy nomination, that you have an Emmy nomination, what I'm

1025
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: here to get I.

1026
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 8: Have to told you that if I were have to

1027
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 8: told you that your first Emmy nomination, that you'd have

1028
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 8: an Emmy nomination, but that it would come in the

1029
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 8: drama category and not comedy, what would your reaction have been?

1030
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I guess I would have been surprised. I

1031
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: definitely came up doing comedy and that's kind of been

1032
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 4: more my my thing.

1033
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: But he knows that.

1034
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: That's why he's That's why he asked.

1035
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: So what was I supposed to say?

1036
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: You're like, so, this is really interesting that you asked

1037
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: that I actually came up doing comedy. Actually I would be.

1038
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: So that's why because it came.

1039
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 9: From the world of viewers don't know that, right, how

1040
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 9: many comedies. Here's where it Here's where I hate to

1041
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 9: do this. I'm actually I actually believe in you.

1042
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. Zero commas. So this is how

1043
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: is that? What account is this?

1044
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: It's only got six likes?

1045
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: This is the USA Today Entertainment from a month ago.

1046
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Zach Cherry talks severance, Emmy nomination and liberty fandom.

1047
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: And talking about my hashtag shorts.

1048
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: The viral video, right, Yeah, I know we got a

1049
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: good look at those. You made sure that.

1050
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: They're very cum My dms are filled with your hashtag shorts.

1051
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: They're very cunk, very very Such a hard show to

1052
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: pin down genre wise, so I kind of get it.

1053
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 11: I'm thinking it all I had to see.

1054
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: I think I can manage. I think no, I think

1055
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: I think I'll manage.

1056
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: How would you pin it down?

1057
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go with the people that literally

1058
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: make decisions about like what the best television is that year.

1059
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: I guess I'll trust them, so I can see why

1060
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to.

1061
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: You'd say Seven's is a drama.

1062
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: So is this the angle you're taking for next year

1063
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: that you should be nominated in a different.

1064
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 3: Category category than everyone else on the show? I don't know,

1065
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: kind of get away from all these friends you have.

1066
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you If you think it's a drama,

1067
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: that's fine, but it seems like there's a lot more

1068
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: going on there.

1069
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 11: Three and what you know it might be like on

1070
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 11: set without Ben?

1071
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I will definitely be bummed. I love working

1072
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: with Ben. But no, I'm not thinking ahead because I'm

1073
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: always surprised.

1074
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: By what they cheapened by you saying that you love

1075
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: working with everyone on the show. Yeah, I felt that

1076
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: that that meant nothing if I'm Ben, like so I'm

1077
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: everybody else.

1078
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: But I do like working with everyone on the show.

1079
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: Did he text you after he saw this interview?

1080
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe if they're I know he

1081
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: has a phone, maybe maybe we send it to.

1082
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: Him and wait for them to tell me when and

1083
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: where to be?

1084
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 11: Who gave you the best piece of advice for tonight?

1085
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: When to be?

1086
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: John Totrurerou gave me some good advice. I've just have fun?

1087
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 11: Do you ever ask him to text his brother?

1088
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: Sorry? Sorry?

1089
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: Where's your fake wife during all this?

1090
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: She's she's back there somewhere, She's just off screen.

1091
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: She must have loved that you shouted out John Toturou

1092
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: right away, and and.

1093
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I feel like by the way, like that was shared

1094
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: with you in confidence. She didn't give you.

1095
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: Any advice, Like it's preposterous that your wife would give

1096
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: you advice.

1097
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: She didn't, So I was being honest, not about that, certainly,

1098
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: nothing on the level of have fun. Yeah, which, by the.

1099
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: Way, that was the pretty standard. I think I'm pretty

1100
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: sure John thought that was going to remain private.

1101
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: Well, I apologize and thank you for them now putting

1102
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: it out to all your.

1103
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we can get a couple of comments in there,

1104
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, now that it's out there.

1105
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 11: Yankees game.

1106
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: I do not, but I'm obsessed with the show. Monk.

1107
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: Can I ask him about that?

1108
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 11: Oh my god, what do you guys talk about?

1109
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: That was a different guy.

1110
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: He can remember anything, this guy, Monk.

1111
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: This again.

1112
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: Do you know Monk? You guys, I do know, Monk.

1113
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: I can think of one vacuum in the middle of

1114
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: the night.

1115
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: One difference you'll wake up at three am. The vacuum

1116
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: between him and me and you actually maybe two, maybe

1117
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: three or four.

1118
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah,