WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Safe to Assume?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Saturday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live from Mockingtonnard, California. It is day three of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp two thousand twenty one that is presented by

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<v Speaker 1>American Airlines, and I'm here with Dave and Nick. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking Cowboys football, you guys for the next forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Today will be the Cowboys' third practice that'll start at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am Pacific time. I'm sorry, second practice. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting because yesterday Mike McCarthy talked about kind

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<v Speaker 1>of his rationale there and he said it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>time he's ever given a day of rest after only

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<v Speaker 1>one practice. But after kind of seeing how the team

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of responding to it, he said he'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>stick with that going forward. What'd you guess see, is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna have a choice? I mean, is that his choice?

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<v Speaker 1>I think how he how he arranges it, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is his choice. Yeah, I don't think they'd tell. By

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore talking and him talking that, you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're being careful with their words because they know this

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<v Speaker 1>is an NFLPA type thing. But I mean they don't

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<v Speaker 1>love it, uh that, you know, it's just stop start,

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<v Speaker 1>stop start. It's gonna be like that Olive Camp as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, but you gotta be smart on you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the off day is. It's not a proud but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily off date. They're still doing something. I

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<v Speaker 1>did think Mike and I agree with that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Mike made an interesting point that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd ever considered. But like, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety that goes into this. Maybe not for your stars

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys that have done this a million times,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the guys on the roster don't

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<v Speaker 1>fit that description. You're fighting for a job, fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>a roster spot. A lot of them never been in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL before, totally get that. So maybe it's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing to you know, you get your

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<v Speaker 1>practice under you, you catch your breath and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here situated in my hotel room. I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, I got this, I know where the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>rooms are, and now we can go. Having said that,

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be kind of herky jerky because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we do we do two in a row

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and then they're off again. It's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is not what it used to be. But that's well,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a good thing. For what's the difference between the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA and Major League Baseball and the NFL regular season games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's the fact that there's a bunch of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the NFL is like there's only a few,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple can change your whole season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the same can be said with practice. There's only a

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<v Speaker 1>few of these practice. There's thirteen practices. You get four

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games, so the seventeen eighteen times you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go out there and put something on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that means everything. This isn't just a throwaway practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Every rep, every play is a big deal, especially like

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's talking about those younger guys, Yeah, and building them

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit to get them prepared for a

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<v Speaker 1>long season. There actually is a method to this if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at how they arrange these schedules in these

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<v Speaker 1>off days. You have one practice, then you have an

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<v Speaker 1>off day, then you have two practices, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>an off day, then you have three practices, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have an off day. It's almost as though they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of building them into the repetitive motion of getting their

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<v Speaker 1>bodies back ready to be able to compete at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level on a day to day basis. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad thing, Dave, You and I were talking

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<v Speaker 1>before the show started about running. It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're building your body up. The worst thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is just jump right in and go all

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<v Speaker 1>in for you know, seven days in a row. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to build yourself back into it to

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself ready. And that's my slow ass jogging down

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<v Speaker 1>the street, not playing NFL football any way, either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the concept if I can ruin my body doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>then I yeah, then they need to be as careful

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, right, all right, So they did have the

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<v Speaker 1>first year of practice, uh, and I wanted to to

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<v Speaker 1>give some some opportunity for you guys to give some

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<v Speaker 1>impressions from what you saw. If there was a particular

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<v Speaker 1>player or moment that stood out to you good or bad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Um, there was a couple of drills, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the seven on seven. I thought that the cornerbacks were

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<v Speaker 1>very active with their hands. I felt like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the balls were getting ripped out, poked out, knocked away,

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<v Speaker 1>some even intercepted in bounds or out of bounds. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>as Trayvon and Dak and and that and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a good one. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it has a chance to really be a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>that could he could be a star in the making

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just so competitive. He got to remember he's

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<v Speaker 1>been chasing his older brother's whole life, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>which everyone in the league is trying to do two

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's you know, I think helped him here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was a nay Sean Wright, Anthony Brown. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's maybe a couple other corners. I thought Jordan Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice place. It was just all like in

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<v Speaker 1>a seven or eight play spam. It was every play

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<v Speaker 1>was like defensive back ripping the ball out making a

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<v Speaker 1>nice play. So, um, that was one and one. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the defense was better than the offense in some

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<v Speaker 1>of those drills there. Do you hear what dan Quinn?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you catch what he said about Treyvon Diggs yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it. He said. He was like when

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<v Speaker 1>he catches the ball, you don't hear it? Yeah, he's natural,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not fighting it, he's not making a big

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<v Speaker 1>production out of its just and I just thought back

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver. Yeah, I thought that was fun. Um all,

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn's not going to get him the mic enough

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<v Speaker 1>for real. Love his press conference, for real, love his

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<v Speaker 1>press conferences. Learned something interesting. I love his press Connerce.

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<v Speaker 1>You never see anyone just naturally throw in cuss words.

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<v Speaker 1>My son is working on that, but but I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of but yeah, but I mean, he just naturally throws

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<v Speaker 1>at these cuss words. It's yeah, it's it's it's awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good. He's really good. Um. It's easy to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on him because of who he is. But I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time not getting excited about Micah Parsons. And

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<v Speaker 1>I say that as I'm gonna keep saying it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have picked for Sean Slater. I was not one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent on board with the pick. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the Micah Parsons fan club leader here trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>y'all to be excited about this guy. But it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>not to watch him and get excited. Man like they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing a lot of stuff with him. Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>said yesterday they probably did too much with him because

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably excited too. He's lining up in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different places. Um, you know, there was a video

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, y apps and it's not it's unpadded. Gotta

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. I get it. But he zipped right around

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins on a rep on a rep in in

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<v Speaker 1>like the individual, just fundamental stuff. His closing speed is

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<v Speaker 1>so impressive again, you know, not even tackling people, but

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<v Speaker 1>just his angles and the quickness with which he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball. I cannot wait to see him and

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<v Speaker 1>actually play football because he's not doing that yet, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't worn a pad yet. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see what it looks like when he does well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that naturally he's only gonna push the guys

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<v Speaker 1>around him. And I think Keyan O'Neill is doing it too.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy is he had a big play. If if

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<v Speaker 1>Layton vander esh in Jalen Smith don't step up their

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<v Speaker 1>games just because of it, then then they're not suited

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<v Speaker 1>for this team and probably even this league. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they will. They have this is contract hears

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<v Speaker 1>for both of them. Say what you wanted about Jaylen Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all know it's contract here for him,

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<v Speaker 1>Keyan O'Neill as well. Michael Parson is the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that's got a little bit of you know, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be here for a while obviously, but still he's a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie and he's jumping at the bit. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of those guys pushing each other, jib coxle jump

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<v Speaker 1>into the mix here. I mean, this has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to really be a great unit, and I'm hoping Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Layton vandersch kind of rise to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they will. One guy I'll throw out

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<v Speaker 1>there that I noticed, and I wasn't even looking for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but noticed him quite a few times, was Randy Gregory.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually looking at the offensive tackles because I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to see how they look coming back again,

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<v Speaker 1>not in past, just wanted to see how they're moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at Lyle Collins, Sum, was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith Sum, and ironically, on some of those plays

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching them, Randy Gregory swiped right around them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go back to you dan Quinn's press conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about his rare ability to bend and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it tougher for those bigger tackles to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get a hand on him because he can

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<v Speaker 1>get around that edge and bend in a way to

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<v Speaker 1>where it makes it very tough for them to get

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<v Speaker 1>to him. And even the day before, we've been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>all these reports about you know, Randy even had the

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<v Speaker 1>statement about how he felt like last year he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got looked over a little bit. Dan Quinn doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like that's gonna happen. Seems like he's all in

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<v Speaker 1>on figuring out how much and how to effectively use

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregor, and it's excited about using him this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a chance to tell to Randy he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to to the front to get some pizza. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the only person that sometimes decides to get

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<v Speaker 1>his own food and not not the food here provided,

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<v Speaker 1>but how dare you? But he was talking about Dan Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy was and he was said, that's my guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like we've been here for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up, but that's my guy, he said, because he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the perfect coach for what you want. He

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<v Speaker 1>gives you praise, he will get right in your face.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he said face, but he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll tell you, you know, when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what you want. Because players want that.

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<v Speaker 1>They want that as long as it's if it's justified.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see it. He's like, they want they want that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he said, he has a perfect compliment

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<v Speaker 1>mix of that of being able to, you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>your guy, be on it, you know, your side. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like look at this, this was

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<v Speaker 1>you know horse figured out. Dan would have just said it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said it three or four times. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even said it is such a nice way, right, he

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<v Speaker 1>just says in a way where you're like, oh, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really a bad word. The way you say

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<v Speaker 1>this rolls off all right. I didn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about some news. Yesterday we started hearing

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<v Speaker 1>reports that Malie Cookers possibly being flirted with as a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility to come in here safety. Um talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>we know at this point, maybe we know nothing, but

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<v Speaker 1>what we know at this point and if if he

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<v Speaker 1>is coming in, what is how can he help on

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<v Speaker 1>this team? Well, we knew there was interest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the first time they've talked to him. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought him in March at the same time they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in Demante Casey and they they signed Casey, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of it, they wanted to see a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more from Hooker and his rehab. Maybe he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as far along, so they're bringing him in. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a done deal, but it sounds like as long as

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<v Speaker 1>the medical checks out, it will be. Um. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of it. I don't have a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's we talked about this yesterday. The timing is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird to me, Like I I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if they just weren't sold on his achilles and

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<v Speaker 1>they just they wanted to see it progress a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more, maybe that makes sense. But you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>had a long time to sign him, and we like,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't been at camp long enough for them to

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<v Speaker 1>know they've had one practice. Like, I doubt they just

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<v Speaker 1>decided like, oh these guys suck. We gotta get somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's just interesting in that regard that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they could have done this two weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>before they flew out here. But again, I'm not questioning

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<v Speaker 1>it because I think it's a good idea. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>weird timing to me. Well, yeah, and you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to pass five tests, you know, So that's another

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<v Speaker 1>part of why. You know, maybe they could have done

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<v Speaker 1>this a little bit earlier, because that means he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>miss some time. So if they're gonna do it, they're

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<v Speaker 1>better do it and start that clock. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they haven't already. I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>five tests after you sign or just five tests since

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<v Speaker 1>you get here, five in a row. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know the whole deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know this, The fans like what they see

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<v Speaker 1>and have seen out of Donna and Wilson. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>makes plays. He's made play since he pretty since he

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<v Speaker 1>got here. Yeah. Yeah, Um, they like him more than

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches due is my opinion. I'm not saying the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches don't like him, yeah, but they are not sold

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I think. I think there's coverage issues there

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<v Speaker 1>in the back end. I don't want to compare him

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<v Speaker 1>to Roy Williams, but I think it can be that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you see big hits, you see big plays

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<v Speaker 1>from the safety position. And another thing, Dan Quinn he

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<v Speaker 1>really did a nice job of talking about because even

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<v Speaker 1>how important that position is with communication and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>not knocking Donovan Wilson, I just don't think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are as comfortable with him making plays on the back

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<v Speaker 1>end as as some of the I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>the average fan has Donovan's name written in sharpie and

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff is like, yeah, pencil maybe, yeah, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>But it isn'test because Donovan Wilson to me is he's

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<v Speaker 1>the box guy. I mean, he's for strong safety. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the thumper. He's not a coverage guy. That's not his game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hook Hooker's of pretty safety. Hooker's coverage all the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his thing. He was a ball hawk in college.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what got him drafted so high. And Casey too,

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<v Speaker 1>like Casey doesn't have the frame to play in the box, can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I think I said this in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exaggerating. Demante Casey is not that much taller

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<v Speaker 1>than me, Like he's not big by NFL standards. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it's interesting because I you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Malie Hooker is competition for Donovan Wilson because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think their roles are a lot different. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he does signum, that's it's just interesting because I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably got a competition between Casey and Hooker to

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<v Speaker 1>see who's gonna be that free guy. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>part that also can like I'm wondering about because again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a team that we expects

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<v Speaker 1>going to play a lot of Cover three, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of single safety high. The expectation is that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately have a guy that stays back and I gut

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<v Speaker 1>us up closer to the box. And my thought was,

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<v Speaker 1>Demonte Casey is their guy, Like they brought him in

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<v Speaker 1>for purpose, and since he's gotten here, he's certainly from

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<v Speaker 1>our expectations. I think we've all talked about how he's

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<v Speaker 1>exceeded that. Just the fact that he's actually on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and to come back from that injury that quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and be out there playing. The expectation is okay. They're

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<v Speaker 1>getting what they kind of wanted, so to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>another guy makes you makes you question just a little bit, right, Although, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I think the timing's weird. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have done this anytime between March and before

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<v Speaker 1>they got out here. But I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>out of both sides of my mouth because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a good thing, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a debate that we have with the fans every summer

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<v Speaker 1>where they're like, why don't you go get Hooker And

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, well they have Casey and it's like, is

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<v Speaker 1>demonte CAZy good? And like you're just like, we solved

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<v Speaker 1>our problems, We're good to go. No, and Malie Cooker

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't break the bank to the point where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get both, so throw them both out there and see

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<v Speaker 1>what you got. So I think I think the timing

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<v Speaker 1>is weird, but I very much appreciate that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, why not just go get a former

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick and see if he's better than what

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<v Speaker 1>we got. I think it's it's a great idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the safety position is one where they are completely

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<v Speaker 1>throwing stuff at the wall and looking at what sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point they should which that's all they can

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<v Speaker 1>do with this. If you're not going to draft one,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well do what you can sneakinning. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is. It's Will McClay one, O one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, first round pick who can be had on

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<v Speaker 1>the chief, who maybe you can help him revitalize his career.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. All right, we're gonna if he signs.

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the coordinators. They all spoke to the media yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore, Dan Quinn, and John Fossil. There was some

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<v Speaker 1>Day three of training Camp twenty twenty one presented by

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<v Speaker 1>American Airlines. Let's talk about the coordinators. Yesterday, Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn, and John Fossil took their turns with the

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<v Speaker 1>media to discuss varying various topics. So we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>through here a few things I heard from each of

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<v Speaker 1>them that I wanted to get your your thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelln Moore talked about Dak. He was asked the question

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<v Speaker 1>about Dak rushing after the injury, and his response was,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be foolish of us to take that away

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<v Speaker 1>from him. You guys agree with that or disagree? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that maybe they should at least consider

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of altering how they use him, maybe less

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<v Speaker 1>called runs, or do you think, yeah, you stick with

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's football. The chance of injury is

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<v Speaker 1>always there. You gotta keep doing what you do. What

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<v Speaker 1>you just said, Yeah, it's football, and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>crucial element of Dak's game. He's never gonna be Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson running for eight hundred eleven hundred yards a year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he needs that, and I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the status I mean, he's he's among if not the

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<v Speaker 1>league leader in like red zone touchdowns as a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he just brings an element that opens things up.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention his ability to scramble and make plays

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<v Speaker 1>on the move. I mean half or more of the

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<v Speaker 1>best plays of his career, or when something broke down

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<v Speaker 1>and he scrambled and made something happen. He I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just got a knack for it. Not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>he I mean what this is, He's played five years

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<v Speaker 1>of pro ball. He was a three year starter at

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State, carrying that offense on his back, carrying the

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<v Speaker 1>ball five hundred times a year for them, and never

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<v Speaker 1>got seriously hurt. So no, I wouldn't change anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the way DA plays. I mean all George still jumps,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he still makes plays, and I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to say it. He had one of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>injuries that you've ever seen or not seen. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>like me and look away, you have things like that

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, yeah, and you have to come back to

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<v Speaker 1>year point, like I forget that that ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George, Like when he was kicking ass in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs this year, not even thinking about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it like Dave said, I mean, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson, but he might be closer to that than

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<v Speaker 1>he would be Aaron Rodgers, you know. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into all that. I mean, Dak is

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<v Speaker 1>a complete quarterback. He really is, because because he throws

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, runs the ball that But but what makes

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<v Speaker 1>him special is that he's got that knack to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go get it and find, you know, get those

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<v Speaker 1>extra yards and carry people in and flip over the

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<v Speaker 1>top and all that and fearless to do whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you take that away from him, you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>away you know, if you take that away from him,

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<v Speaker 1>then he becomes that three star recruit that that nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody really wanted, or that fourth round pick that

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody wanted, because they're not measuring what's really on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside of him. And the stuff that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>inside is someone that's gonna say I'm kicking ass, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run your ass over or flip over you, or

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it takes. You're taking that away if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't let him be Dack and that and

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<v Speaker 1>the play where he hurt his ankles is freak. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, he's been tackled so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's he got he got mauled in college, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you like, just like he was, he's a one

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<v Speaker 1>man show going against Alabama. And don't tell me that's

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<v Speaker 1>the like that's too different than the NFL. Like that

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<v Speaker 1>was Jonathan Allen and the guys that are in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL right now, we're just teeing off on him. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have Tyrn Smith. Yeah, he didn't have those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He might have had like one other NFL player on

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<v Speaker 1>those teams. Um, and he was fine. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, you can't. You can't live in fear,

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<v Speaker 1>scared money, don't make money. Let him play. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just a little fun here. I'm gonna take a little offshoot.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not on our rundown, but as you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were talking, I was reminded of this. I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN yesterday and one of the guys on there, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge fan of his anyway, so and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always saying that. I'll tell you why I'm saying that,

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 1>But um, he made the comment. He said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott and Daniel Jones have the exact same skill set,

0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and again I'm not a big fan of it. So

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>my first reaction was you're dumb. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I said that because I already don't like

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>his brand of commentary, or if it really was a

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<v Speaker 1>false statement. But as I started thinking about, I was like,

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>could this be true? And I'm just not giving enough

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>credit because of the person that said it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get your opinions. Do you think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fair statement to say that they have similar

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<v Speaker 1>skill sets. There's a lot of there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good people doing work in the national media. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not saying all media sucks, but like just

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.400
<v Speaker 1>some of those guys are just so stupid. I don't care.

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't care here. And and Daniel Jones is a

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 1>good athlete. Yes, he's a very good athlete. He's the

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.239
<v Speaker 1>classic like sneaky athletic, which is just a nice way

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of saying he's white. Yeah, kind of like Joe Burrow. Um,

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>he had to just get that part. I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, people said it about him all

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>through that season and during the draft process, Like, Daniel

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Jones is a good athlete. But I mean, come on,

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he played fourteen games last year and through eleven touchdowns

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and ten interceptions, he didn't crack three thousand yards like Dak.

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Dak was comparable to that in five games. Come like,

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<v Speaker 1>and need we bring up the highlight of him tripping

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>over his own feet with nobody around him? Nick was

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just talking about, I mean, you know, Dak is throwing

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Josh Norman out of the way in the open field

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and flipping over people to win playoff games, Like, shut

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<v Speaker 1>up that, No, And Daniel Jones is a good athlete,

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't deserve to be compared to Dak at

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>this point in his career. Well, and I think, you know,

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>skill set, what what is that? What are we really

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 1>saying here? Does he throw the ball better than Dak?

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe I don't know, but I don't care.

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Like like all that what Dave's saying, None of that

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff really matters. Can you get the job done? Can

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you go and take your team to the next level?

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Can you get from here to there without falling down?

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you not fumble the football? And all that? He's

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>not He's not there the type of quarterback that Dak

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is in Dak in his second year was way above

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>what he is as well. So I mean skill set.

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I always think about skill set of can you go

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>out to Disney World and be in that quarterback challenge

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatever? Okay, great, can beat the guy. Ironically, people

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.479
<v Speaker 1>killed Dak for years because he did that and sucked

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 1>at it. Remember that, Like I think, yeah, maybe David

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Carr beat him in one of those like accuracy games,

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Like Dak was just there to promote something, and like

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>people pulled that video up for years. I don't give

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a damn about that, right, That's not what it is.

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 1>That's not you know, that's it's not about that, and

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>so skills, who cares? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't,

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Joe, I looked it up. Sorry, but that's how

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just like saying that that this guy, you know,

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like Kyle Korver is a better shooter than you know,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant or whatever. Okay, maybe he could win the

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>three point contest, but let's play. Why don't we just

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>put him out there and let's play and see what happens.

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, Steve Kerr was a really good shooter, but

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't he wouldn't beating you know, Michael Jordan, Daniel Jones.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones through for twenty nine hundred yards and eleven

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns in fourteen games, Dac through for eighteen hundred and

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>nine in five not even five four and a half

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>because he left the Giants game early. So I no, stop,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe well no, I'm like, maybe

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones is going to be a revelation and really

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>turn the corner. But if I had to guess, I

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>think four months from now the Giants are gonna look

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>like idiots for not going after justin Field. It's a

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>fied to guess. Well, and you know whoever said that,

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who said that, but basically just

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to draw people offsides and Derek, you just decus

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>heard that thing around the corner. No, no, no, The

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>reason why is because I again, sometimes you know, I

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>goes there's certain people you really respect and others you don't,

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and so others you don't. Typically when they say things,

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to dismiss them, right, And so I was like,

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>and as I honestly, as I started thinking about it,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, he can run the ball. He probably

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get as much credit for being able to run

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball as he does. We know he can throw

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the ball down field. We've seen that before. He's done

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that to go with the Giants. So you just think

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>about it. From that standpoint, those two skills, you could

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>probably make some argument that they're comparable. I still was like,

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I still am not willing to go there, but I

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to make sure I wasn't thinking about this

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>more so from the standpoint of me having not really

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a terrible quarterback at all. I think

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>he you know, I think they have a chance to

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>be pretty good offensively. He's gonna come into his own.

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>He's got a running back now, you know back, And

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that he's got a good compliment of receivers

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>out there. We'll see how good they are with him.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think he's got just just on the face

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of it, decent setup of receivers down there. All right,

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>let's let's move on. Let's talk about Dan Quinn and

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>his comment. The first one I want to talk about, um,

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he told his story about a situation where they miked

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>up Demante because casey, uh, they've tell that story and

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>and kind of the relevance that he was at the

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>point he was making with the story. Yeah, Casey tipped

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>us off to it when he spoke to the media,

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but he was basically saying, you know, dan Quinn's gonna

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>come up with ways to get what he wants at view.

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's a talkative, loud personality guy in life,

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but on the field, he wasn't doing enough. He wasn't communicating,

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't talking as much as he needed to. And

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>this was back when he was in Atlanta years ago,

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>not right now. But so dan Quinn miked him up,

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like not like NFL films miked him up, you know,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, just to kind of show him what he

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>was or in this case, was not doing. And then

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I think dan Quinn was saying he showed him the video,

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think everybody's seen the video of John Lynch

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl for Tampa, and you know, he

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>told Dexter Jack he would like before the play, he

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, we saw this on tape. This is gonna

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>be that slugo and if you're right here, you're good

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to go. And he picked it off and ran back

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown, and like John Lynch was like, that's

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what right, That's what I said, right, which I

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>always thought John Lynch was trying to like take credit

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>for the like He's like, hey, well Dexter made the pick,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>but what anyway, But so dan Quinn's point was, you know,

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not enough to say like, hey, shade left, Shade right,

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you gotta to talk to coaches and say we

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, we saw this. They tend to do this

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>in this formation. Keep your eye out for that. And

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he said, you know, it's it's basically essential

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>at the safety position. That's part of your job. And

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just really Casey was saying, like,

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what we talk about when we say he's a

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>player coach, is that he will do that type of

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff to help you get the most out of your game.

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And I wish that that more fans would would realize that,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just because you're a cornerback that might be

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>slowing down, you know, and people think, well, if you're

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a cornerback like that, you just just play, you know,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just play safety. You know you're older now, you want't

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>we just move him to safety? Well, first of all,

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you got to be able to hit tackle and want

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and you also have to do what

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about, the full understand everybody's position and get

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>them lined up. And it's not it's not you know

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>every day where a cornerback or can just do that.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>It's happened. There's been some good corners that kind of

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>shift over into that. But you know, there's more to

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a safety than just being a guy that's kind of

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a slower corner. It's not what it is at all,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>which I think Quinn also, you know, referencing the John

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Lynch tape, he was like, that's the championship standard we're

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to meet. That doesn't mean you're not gonna be

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that from the get, but that's where you're trying to

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>go if when you understand things on that level, ye

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all right. Another thing he said that was interesting to me,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and this was kind of he just kind of threw

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>this in, but he was talking about the cornerbacks and

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he said there will be times we'll want to make

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll want to match up, and he was talking about

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>moving them around that The question was should we expect

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to see the guy's line at the cornerbacks lining up

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>on the same side consistently. He was like, no, I

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna move them around because there are times

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you might want to match up. And the first time

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd really heard the idea that they may be traveling

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>guys because they want to get a particular matchup. So

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>my question for you guys is, did you get the

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>same thing that that could suggest that they may decide

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to travel guys for specific matchups on game days? And

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>if so, who's the number one cornerback you think on

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this team that would match up with the top y

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>receiver from an opponent or do you expect this to

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>be kind of something that varies based upon the skill

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>set of that particular player and then they match up

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the corner they think is best to travel with him.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have that corner right now. I

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I mean, I

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>mean Diggs, Yeah, we think he's he's going, you know, forward,

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna be a really good player. But I

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that. I mean, he got burnt a lot

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>last year. We gave him that rookie pass because he

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is a rookie thrown into the fire. He's gonna he

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>got thrown in more than what Joseph's gonna get thrown into,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe, but but he handled it. He kept coming

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>back from morning. I think he's getting better. But I

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>think digs a style of play is going to have

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a really big game, defensive player of the week type

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of game, two interceptions and stuff. I think he'll also

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>get burned really bad a game too, because that's the

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>type of player he is. I see a Generas Jenkins

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>type guy with him, kind of hot and cold. I mean,

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just because he's gonna be the risk taker, but he's

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna get picks. He's gonna get meat at times too.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if they have a guy, yeah,

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I will say honestly, I prefer that kind of guy.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Give me a couple turnover, give me some turnovers, because

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>guess what, every cornerback gets beat. I want the guy

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that is also going to if you're gonna get beat

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes sometimes give me the ball, Like give me a

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>turnover and I'll take that. I'll accept the fact that

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get beat. You would rather have that or

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones, who really didn't get beat a lot, didn't

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of I want the guy's gonna give

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>me some turnovers. I seen one especially with an offense

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that I expect is gonna score like this one,

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>give me some turnovers. I think I'm just that memory

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of Dez just abusing generas Jenkins. Maybe that's a bad example. No, no,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I hear you. Though I would say Terrell Buckley, but

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know most people don't even remember that guy. I

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was about to say that was like, that's back to

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the day bucks A game. Yeah, Yeah, to be honest

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>with you, I really five six a year and not

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a game. I'm gonna say that year. Um. I really

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>thought Dan was just talking more about figuring things out

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>at training camp and then like what they're gonna do? Okay.

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>He he had a great line that I liked a lot,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, we basically got forty days before

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>this really starts to count, and like and over those

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<v Speaker 1>forty days, we just got to figure this whole thing out.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's part of that, which I do

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>love that. Though you know they're gonna they're gonna move

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>guys around, you're not always gonna be at left corner,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>right corner. Anthony Brown, he said he's gonna play a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nickel while he's here. Kelvin Joseph and and

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Diggs maybe as well. I think it's just about

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<v Speaker 1>finding who does what the best so that when you

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>get to the season maybe you have those options. As

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you know right now from what we've seen. I don't

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>even like to talk about traveling guys because that implies

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 1>that you have a badass cornerback who can do that.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, like, even, you know, it's cool that these

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>guys have the versatility, Like I think it's valuable that

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>AB can move into the slot, but it's like, okay, guys,

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>we're playing we're playing the best slot in the league.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>AB get in there. It's like, oh no, like terrified

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>number one. So I think it's really just more about

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<v Speaker 1>finding who's comfortable with what so that you know what

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you can do with them when it is time to

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>match up against opponents. All right, let's talk about actually

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to John Fossil and what he had

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to see about speial teams, which ball was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take our final break and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>Fire or Roku. All right, so let's talk about John Fossil,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Special Teams Coordinator. UM. Yesterday he started, not started his portion.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>There was actually a little part before then. We were

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about his dad, really emotional stuff but then we

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>got into some of the conversations. Um, you guys are

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>more into the whole protocol of the media. Nobody likes

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that stuff more than us. That's fair. Well,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is, you guys have unwritten rules. It's

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>like baseball, right, you guys have unwritten rules about you know,

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the enders and all that kind of stuff, which I

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>really don't get involved in. I think the thing about it,

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jory even said it, Jory Epstein said it. You know,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to kind of shift to football after that,

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but you know, that's that's how the press conferences sometimes.

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was, you know, it's it's the first

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>time we've seen him since his father passed away, and

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>give him a chance to talk about it. And I'd

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>rather have it come at the beginning or the end

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>than ask five football questions get yeah, yeah, yeah, And

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I thought it was. It was nice.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>He had some very very complimentary things, obviously to say

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>about his dad and his relationship with his dad, and

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>so I thought it was it was well done, interesting stuff.

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>If you hadn't heard, he can go back and check

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it out. But that being said, the conversation then moved

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to long snappers. And I'll speak for myself. I was

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>under the impression going into this offseason that it was

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>almost a no brainer that LP Lattiser would return as

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>their long snapper. He'd been in forever. I don't think

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>he was a bad long snapper. I thought he was

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>good at what he did. But they made the decision

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to move on to Jake McQuaid. And the question was

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>asked about what the primary reason was for that, And Nick,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I liked your follow up question because you asked him, so,

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>what makes a good long snapper? What was his answer

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and how is that relevant to what he was talking

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>about or do you think it's relevant to what he

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was talking about with why they went with McQuaid, I

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the answer. And once he said that was

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>a good question, I was patting myself on the back

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and I totally just didn't understand. No, I'm kidding. He

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he said, throwing the ball back is line one. You know,

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Garrett would say everyone can throw the ball back, And

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>seriously watch college football. I mean, how many bad snap

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Steve really see it happens. But the guys that are

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>training they can do it. That's not what it's about

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>it's about protections, it's about understanding where where the where

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the rush is coming from. And then it's also about

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>getting in lanes. It's not just running down the field

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and making tackles. It's also staying in your lane and

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>making sure across the you know the line, that you're good.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 1>And now he's not the first one down, but he's

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>LP was down there enough to you know. So you

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta have some athleticism to do that. I gotta have

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>some understanding. And more than anything, did you hear what

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>he said about what Jake Jake mcquaido think wants to

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>be a linebacker. Okay, he's not one he wants to

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>be though he understands. He still does reps and stuff

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 1>to tackle because he still got to do it. Didn't

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>see LP doing that. And I'm not gonna throw out

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you said LP was a good snapper. LP was a

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal snapper. He had no bad snaps in seventeen years

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of phenomenal snapper. Now, maybe what Fossil's trying to do

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>in some other things, Jake McQuaid fits better. He's had

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>him before. They both were free agents. He picked the

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>one that you like and he said, I think LP

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>has some ball left in him. Even though no one

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>assigned him. He said, I think mcquait's got a lot

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>of football left in him. So you know, he went

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 1>from forty to thirty two thirty three. You know, that's

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's what it was. But it was

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it was just more to it than just you know,

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>because they're all gonna be perfect and snaps knock on wood.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that last part was interesting to me, Okay.

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean people were all curious and up in arms

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>about that when it happened, and I was like, well, yeah,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, coaches bringing their guys all the time, and

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>just you don't see him fire the longest tenured player

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and team history very often. But I think you know,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>McQuaid has been to two Pro Bowls, he's clearly really

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>good at what he does. And you're weighing it and

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Okay, the credentials are similar enough that this

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>makes sense if you like him more whatever. And mcquaid's

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty three, LP's forty, So I mean if you can

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>get and what LP got here during parcels, yeah, and

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>stayed through. He was here from Bill Parcels to Mike McCarthy.

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>So if Jake McQuaid catches on here, he could be

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the long snapper for the next four or five coaches

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>who will be running this department. By the It's entirely possible.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't who's next? The next coach? Man? That's sure of

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>David Kellen Moore? You know, let me say this. Oh

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and I really don't want to transition into that with

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore, talk about like next coach, I'm not saying yet.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>When Kellen Moore was getting talked about being the coach

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>at Boise State, I'll be honest, I look at him

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't see head coach. Why I don't, Well,

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't. I didn't see it a personality why

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>standing up there all that. I didn't really see it

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>out of Mike Zimmer either. And he's been a really

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>good coach and on that. You don't have to be

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>of this charismatic, you know, Jerry Glanville type, you know whatever,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Yesterday I saw it more with Kellen

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>than I've ever seen before. I thought he had a

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 1>lot more presence up there command. I thought he was

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>really insightful with this thing. You're joking a little bit,

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, even kind of knowing his strength,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>knowing that he's not the going to be the star

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.919
<v Speaker 1>of HBO hard knock, which might make him the star

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of heart you know when you do that. But I'm again,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this is new head, next head coach

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of Cowboys anything like that. I just think I could

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>see head coaching material for him for some team or

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>college pro whatever, you know. I just I mean, the

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.359
<v Speaker 1>guy that brought him here is it's the same guy.

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Like Kellen Moore was a better quarterback than Jason Garrett,

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but like far better, far better. But it's it's like

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>uncanny to me, Like I win in college ye college? Yeah, Okay,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying no, no, in the NFL. Both of them

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>are backups in the NFL. But in college he was

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>far better winning his college quarterback ever had a really

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>great Thanksgiving game. I mean, I don't know. I'm just

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>saying the way Garrett led them back against Dartmouth. I

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>missed that game too, but I bet he did. I

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>bet he beat harder. I think you know, Kellen, you

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>know kind of very smart guys, know a ton about football.

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Former quarterback offensive minded didn't have an amazing NFL career

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>both War seventeen. By the way, new when to get hurt,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to get out of the way so dat could get in. Yeah,

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>great point. I think Kellen's a little more comfortable showing

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>his personality, but not all the way, Like he doesn't

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>like that stuff. He'll grow into that. Yeah, but like

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>but you know, um you remember you've seen the commercials

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that he does in Idaho, right, like it's there. He's

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>got one. Yeah, yeah, like Romo, like that same thing.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>He'd show you something very different here than what his

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>real personality. He doesn't like to put it on display,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's there. But I, uh, he got me, he

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<v Speaker 1>threw me off, he got me, got all sides. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I have no idea what he just said.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have something, something, something, This is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so much fun a program that hasn't won something

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<v Speaker 1>since the Bush. Here we go, Here we go, Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go anyway. Texas are so excited about it either

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<v Speaker 1>because we get to recruit without that being held over

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<v Speaker 1>our heads. That's why I'm excited about it. Tech and

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor were given some you know, some tough games. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about that, Like that's irrelevant. What I care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Is we get to recruit without the SEC being held

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<v Speaker 1>over our head. That's lost your number one quarterback recruit

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big ten. It doesn't matter the SEC. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter right now. Nobody wants to big But

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the Big ten is just as good

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<v Speaker 1>as the SEC right now, as far as the reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's saying, well, you want to go into play in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC or like either one of those are comparable.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't You don't hear the actually good program Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>making all this noise. They're just like, yeah, we'll play

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<v Speaker 1>well whatever, we'll do it and not true, not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares about listening anyway. Get back to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were you saying, Dave, Sorry, I don't remember. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I mean. Kellen Moore just reminds me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Jason Garrett, I think, is what I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say. And actually he was ironic that you

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<v Speaker 1>said that, Nick, because yesterday, as I was standing there

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<v Speaker 1>watching Kellen Moore, I was thinking to myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of fits the part of a of a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can see him standing he was standing there,

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<v Speaker 1>he was taking the questions, he was fairly engaging with

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<v Speaker 1>the questions with his answers. I thought, actually he did

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<v Speaker 1>present for me yesterday as a as what a coach

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<v Speaker 1>would be. Well, all three coach guys were up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn has been a head coach, he's coaching Quins

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<v Speaker 1>on the whole of the Yeah, he's on a different level.

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>John Fossil was an interim coach for a couple of games. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very good at his craft. His dad, as

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about, has been a coach in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>He understands how that works. And Kellen Moore, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is on his way as well. And Kellen Moore's dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a coach righted him, coached him in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, this is a very well rounded, uh

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<v Speaker 1>group of coordinators and not just coordinators. But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>look on the staff again, how many guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach and the last year it was five.

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<v Speaker 1>This year it's maybe four again with the been a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach at some point. Kellen Moore, I'm not Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>but h Quinn, those three and Phil billman Um mcadoo's

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<v Speaker 1>on the staff now ye've been a coach, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know they they've got guys that that can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully help McCarthy if needed when you know, just for

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<v Speaker 1>different things that that pop up. Yeah, which I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to stir up drama at all. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not suggesting Kellen Moore has ulterior motives. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you turned down the head job at your program

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<v Speaker 1>where you're a god to just be NOC in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, No, But I do think you turn it

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<v Speaker 1>down if your expectation. And yes, I agree with what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying. Yeah, the one thing I will say is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he necessarily has designs on this head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job. I think he looked at it, That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's like, if you're gonna get in college football,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Boise. Yeah, exactly, that's where he wins

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, which he loves Boise. But he's like, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got higher aspirations than Boys State. And let's be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>if this offense plays the way that we all expected

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<v Speaker 1>to play this year, and let's assume for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe they get with that some team success. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a hot commodity next year as far as

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching jobs are concerned in the NFL. If this

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<v Speaker 1>offense is as good as it should be, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, he'll be in that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always that circle of coordinators that's you know, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy for forever. At this point, he'll be he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on that list if this offense is where it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. Absolutely all right, We appreciate you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>John Us. We'll be back tomorrow a lot more to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Cowboy. I'm sorry. We'll be back on Monday tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be talking Cowboys. We'll have these practices today and

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we'll be able to recap those four you and

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<v Speaker 1>give you some insight as to what we're seeing out

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<v Speaker 1>here in Oxnard. Till then, for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>I am Derek Eckelton. This has been The Break live

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