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Speaker 1: It is Saturday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're live from Mockingtonnard, California. It is day three of
Speaker 1: training camp two thousand twenty one that is presented by
Speaker 1: American Airlines, and I'm here with Dave and Nick. We're
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys football, you guys for the next forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Today will be the Cowboys' third practice that'll start at
Speaker 1: eleven am Pacific time. I'm sorry, second practice. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was interesting because yesterday Mike McCarthy talked about kind
Speaker 1: of his rationale there and he said it's the first
Speaker 1: time he's ever given a day of rest after only
Speaker 1: one practice. But after kind of seeing how the team
Speaker 1: was kind of responding to it, he said he'll probably
Speaker 1: stick with that going forward. What'd you guess see, is
Speaker 1: he gonna have a choice? I mean, is that his choice?
Speaker 1: I think how he how he arranges it, I think
Speaker 1: is his choice. Yeah, I don't think they'd tell. By
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore talking and him talking that, you know they're
Speaker 1: they're being careful with their words because they know this
Speaker 1: is an NFLPA type thing. But I mean they don't
Speaker 1: love it, uh that, you know, it's just stop start,
Speaker 1: stop start. It's gonna be like that Olive Camp as well.
Speaker 1: But um, but you gotta be smart on you know
Speaker 1: what the off day is. It's not a proud but
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily off date. They're still doing something. I
Speaker 1: did think Mike and I agree with that. But I
Speaker 1: thought Mike made an interesting point that I don't know
Speaker 1: that I'd ever considered. But like, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: anxiety that goes into this. Maybe not for your stars
Speaker 1: and the guys that have done this a million times,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the guys on the roster don't
Speaker 1: fit that description. You're fighting for a job, fighting for
Speaker 1: a roster spot. A lot of them never been in
Speaker 1: the NFL before, totally get that. So maybe it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's a good thing to you know, you get your
Speaker 1: practice under you, you catch your breath and say, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm here situated in my hotel room. I've been on
Speaker 1: the field, I got this, I know where the meeting
Speaker 1: rooms are, and now we can go. Having said that,
Speaker 1: it is going to be kind of herky jerky because
Speaker 1: I think we do we do two in a row
Speaker 1: this weekend, and then they're off again. It's so it's
Speaker 1: it is not what it used to be. But that's well,
Speaker 1: probably a good thing. For what's the difference between the
Speaker 1: NBA and Major League Baseball and the NFL regular season games.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the fact that there's a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: you know, and the NFL is like there's only a few,
Speaker 1: and a couple can change your whole season. I think
Speaker 1: the same can be said with practice. There's only a
Speaker 1: few of these practice. There's thirteen practices. You get four
Speaker 1: preseason games, so the seventeen eighteen times you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a chance to go out there and put something on tape.
Speaker 1: I mean that means everything. This isn't just a throwaway practice.
Speaker 1: Every rep, every play is a big deal, especially like
Speaker 1: Dave's talking about those younger guys, Yeah, and building them
Speaker 1: up a little bit to get them prepared for a
Speaker 1: long season. There actually is a method to this if
Speaker 1: you look at how they arrange these schedules in these
Speaker 1: off days. You have one practice, then you have an
Speaker 1: off day, then you have two practices, then you have
Speaker 1: an off day, then you have three practices, then you
Speaker 1: have an off day. It's almost as though they're kind
Speaker 1: of building them into the repetitive motion of getting their
Speaker 1: bodies back ready to be able to compete at a
Speaker 1: high level on a day to day basis. And that's
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, Dave, You and I were talking
Speaker 1: before the show started about running. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: When you're building your body up. The worst thing you
Speaker 1: can do is just jump right in and go all
Speaker 1: in for you know, seven days in a row. You
Speaker 1: kind of want to build yourself back into it to
Speaker 1: get yourself ready. And that's my slow ass jogging down
Speaker 1: the street, not playing NFL football any way, either way,
Speaker 1: the concept if I can ruin my body doing that,
Speaker 1: then I yeah, then they need to be as careful
Speaker 1: as possible, right, all right, So they did have the
Speaker 1: first year of practice, uh, and I wanted to to
Speaker 1: give some some opportunity for you guys to give some
Speaker 1: impressions from what you saw. If there was a particular
Speaker 1: player or moment that stood out to you good or bad. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought, Um, there was a couple of drills, especially
Speaker 1: the seven on seven. I thought that the cornerbacks were
Speaker 1: very active with their hands. I felt like a lot
Speaker 1: of the balls were getting ripped out, poked out, knocked away,
Speaker 1: some even intercepted in bounds or out of bounds. But um,
Speaker 1: as Trayvon and Dak and and that and by the way,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good one. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it has a chance to really be a guy that
Speaker 1: that could he could be a star in the making
Speaker 1: because he's just so competitive. He got to remember he's
Speaker 1: been chasing his older brother's whole life, you know, which
Speaker 1: which everyone in the league is trying to do two
Speaker 1: and so that's you know, I think helped him here.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a nay Sean Wright, Anthony Brown. Um,
Speaker 1: there's maybe a couple other corners. I thought Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: had a nice place. It was just all like in
Speaker 1: a seven or eight play spam. It was every play
Speaker 1: was like defensive back ripping the ball out making a
Speaker 1: nice play. So, um, that was one and one. I
Speaker 1: thought the defense was better than the offense in some
Speaker 1: of those drills there. Do you hear what dan Quinn?
Speaker 1: Did you catch what he said about Treyvon Diggs yesterday?
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. He said. He was like when
Speaker 1: he catches the ball, you don't hear it? Yeah, he's natural,
Speaker 1: Like he's not fighting it, he's not making a big
Speaker 1: production out of its just and I just thought back
Speaker 1: a receiver. Yeah, I thought that was fun. Um all,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's not going to get him the mic enough
Speaker 1: for real. Love his press conference, for real, love his
Speaker 1: press conferences. Learned something interesting. I love his press Connerce.
Speaker 1: You never see anyone just naturally throw in cuss words.
Speaker 1: My son is working on that, but but I kind
Speaker 1: of but yeah, but I mean, he just naturally throws
Speaker 1: at these cuss words. It's yeah, it's it's it's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. He's really good. Um. It's easy to focus
Speaker 1: on him because of who he is. But I'm having
Speaker 1: a hard time not getting excited about Micah Parsons. And
Speaker 1: I say that as I'm gonna keep saying it. I
Speaker 1: would have picked for Sean Slater. I was not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent on board with the pick. So I'm not
Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons fan club leader here trying to tell
Speaker 1: y'all to be excited about this guy. But it's hard
Speaker 1: not to watch him and get excited. Man like they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're doing a lot of stuff with him. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: said yesterday they probably did too much with him because
Speaker 1: they're probably excited too. He's lining up in a lot
Speaker 1: of different places. Um, you know, there was a video
Speaker 1: on Twitter, y apps and it's not it's unpadded. Gotta
Speaker 1: remember that. I get it. But he zipped right around
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins on a rep on a rep in in
Speaker 1: like the individual, just fundamental stuff. His closing speed is
Speaker 1: so impressive again, you know, not even tackling people, but
Speaker 1: just his angles and the quickness with which he gets
Speaker 1: to the ball. I cannot wait to see him and
Speaker 1: actually play football because he's not doing that yet, Like
Speaker 1: he hasn't worn a pad yet. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see what it looks like when he does well. And
Speaker 1: I think that naturally he's only gonna push the guys
Speaker 1: around him. And I think Keyan O'Neill is doing it too.
Speaker 1: That guy is he had a big play. If if
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh in Jalen Smith don't step up their
Speaker 1: games just because of it, then then they're not suited
Speaker 1: for this team and probably even this league. And I
Speaker 1: think that they will. They have this is contract hears
Speaker 1: for both of them. Say what you wanted about Jaylen Smith.
Speaker 1: I think we all know it's contract here for him,
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill as well. Michael Parson is the only one
Speaker 1: that's got a little bit of you know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be here for a while obviously, but still he's a
Speaker 1: rookie and he's jumping at the bit. So I think
Speaker 1: all of those guys pushing each other, jib coxle jump
Speaker 1: into the mix here. I mean, this has a chance
Speaker 1: to really be a great unit, and I'm hoping Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and Layton vandersch kind of rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1: I think that they will. One guy I'll throw out
Speaker 1: there that I noticed, and I wasn't even looking for him,
Speaker 1: but noticed him quite a few times, was Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: I was actually looking at the offensive tackles because I
Speaker 1: really wanted to see how they look coming back again,
Speaker 1: not in past, just wanted to see how they're moving.
Speaker 1: I was looking at Lyle Collins, Sum, was looking at
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith Sum, and ironically, on some of those plays
Speaker 1: I was watching them, Randy Gregory swiped right around them.
Speaker 1: And I go back to you dan Quinn's press conversation,
Speaker 1: and he talked about his rare ability to bend and
Speaker 1: it makes it tougher for those bigger tackles to be
Speaker 1: able to get a hand on him because he can
Speaker 1: get around that edge and bend in a way to
Speaker 1: where it makes it very tough for them to get
Speaker 1: to him. And even the day before, we've been hearing
Speaker 1: all these reports about you know, Randy even had the
Speaker 1: statement about how he felt like last year he kind
Speaker 1: of got looked over a little bit. Dan Quinn doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like that's gonna happen. Seems like he's all in
Speaker 1: on figuring out how much and how to effectively use
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor, and it's excited about using him this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a chance to tell to Randy he was
Speaker 1: going to to the front to get some pizza. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not the only person that sometimes decides to get
Speaker 1: his own food and not not the food here provided,
Speaker 1: but how dare you? But he was talking about Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Randy was and he was said, that's my guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like we've been here for a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's up, but that's my guy, he said, because he said,
Speaker 1: he is the perfect coach for what you want. He
Speaker 1: gives you praise, he will get right in your face.
Speaker 1: I don't think he said face, but he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll tell you, you know, when you have to
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what you want. Because players want that.
Speaker 1: They want that as long as it's if it's justified.
Speaker 1: You could see it. He's like, they want they want that,
Speaker 1: and you know, he said, he has a perfect compliment
Speaker 1: mix of that of being able to, you know, be
Speaker 1: your guy, be on it, you know, your side. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, like look at this, this was
Speaker 1: you know horse figured out. Dan would have just said it.
Speaker 1: He said it three or four times. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even said it is such a nice way, right, he
Speaker 1: just says in a way where you're like, oh, that's okay,
Speaker 1: it's not really a bad word. The way you say
Speaker 1: this rolls off all right. I didn't want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about some news. Yesterday we started hearing
Speaker 1: reports that Malie Cookers possibly being flirted with as a
Speaker 1: possibility to come in here safety. Um talking about what
Speaker 1: we know at this point, maybe we know nothing, but
Speaker 1: what we know at this point and if if he
Speaker 1: is coming in, what is how can he help on
Speaker 1: this team? Well, we knew there was interest. I mean,
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time they've talked to him. They
Speaker 1: brought him in March at the same time they brought
Speaker 1: in Demante Casey and they they signed Casey, and from
Speaker 1: the sounds of it, they wanted to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more from Hooker and his rehab. Maybe he wasn't
Speaker 1: as far along, so they're bringing him in. It's not
Speaker 1: a done deal, but it sounds like as long as
Speaker 1: the medical checks out, it will be. Um. I'm in
Speaker 1: favor of it. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: It's we talked about this yesterday. The timing is just
Speaker 1: kind of weird to me, Like I I guess maybe
Speaker 1: maybe if they just weren't sold on his achilles and
Speaker 1: they just they wanted to see it progress a little
Speaker 1: bit more, maybe that makes sense. But you know, they
Speaker 1: had a long time to sign him, and we like,
Speaker 1: we haven't been at camp long enough for them to
Speaker 1: know they've had one practice. Like, I doubt they just
Speaker 1: decided like, oh these guys suck. We gotta get somebody else,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just interesting in that regard that
Speaker 1: you know, they could have done this two weeks ago
Speaker 1: before they flew out here. But again, I'm not questioning
Speaker 1: it because I think it's a good idea. It's just
Speaker 1: weird timing to me. Well, yeah, and you know he's
Speaker 1: got to pass five tests, you know, So that's another
Speaker 1: part of why. You know, maybe they could have done
Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, because that means he's gonna
Speaker 1: miss some time. So if they're gonna do it, they're
Speaker 1: better do it and start that clock. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that they haven't already. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 1: five tests after you sign or just five tests since
Speaker 1: you get here, five in a row. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the whole deal with that.
Speaker 1: I do know this, The fans like what they see
Speaker 1: and have seen out of Donna and Wilson. Uh. He
Speaker 1: makes plays. He's made play since he pretty since he
Speaker 1: got here. Yeah. Yeah, Um, they like him more than
Speaker 1: the coaches due is my opinion. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: coaches don't like him, yeah, but they are not sold
Speaker 1: with him. I think. I think there's coverage issues there
Speaker 1: in the back end. I don't want to compare him
Speaker 1: to Roy Williams, but I think it can be that
Speaker 1: sometimes when you see big hits, you see big plays
Speaker 1: from the safety position. And another thing, Dan Quinn he
Speaker 1: really did a nice job of talking about because even
Speaker 1: how important that position is with communication and all that,
Speaker 1: not knocking Donovan Wilson, I just don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are as comfortable with him making plays on the back
Speaker 1: end as as some of the I think I think
Speaker 1: the average fan has Donovan's name written in sharpie and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is like, yeah, pencil maybe, yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: But it isn'test because Donovan Wilson to me is he's
Speaker 1: the box guy. I mean, he's for strong safety. He's
Speaker 1: the thumper. He's not a coverage guy. That's not his game.
Speaker 1: Hook Hooker's of pretty safety. Hooker's coverage all the way,
Speaker 1: that's his thing. He was a ball hawk in college.
Speaker 1: That's what got him drafted so high. And Casey too,
Speaker 1: like Casey doesn't have the frame to play in the box, can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not I think I said this in the spring.
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating. Demante Casey is not that much taller
Speaker 1: than me, Like he's not big by NFL standards. Um,
Speaker 1: So that's it's interesting because I you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think Malie Hooker is competition for Donovan Wilson because I
Speaker 1: just think their roles are a lot different. So if
Speaker 1: he does signum, that's it's just interesting because I think
Speaker 1: you've probably got a competition between Casey and Hooker to
Speaker 1: see who's gonna be that free guy. And that's the
Speaker 1: part that also can like I'm wondering about because again,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a team that we expects
Speaker 1: going to play a lot of Cover three, a lot
Speaker 1: of single safety high. The expectation is that they're gonna
Speaker 1: legitimately have a guy that stays back and I gut
Speaker 1: us up closer to the box. And my thought was,
Speaker 1: Demonte Casey is their guy, Like they brought him in
Speaker 1: for purpose, and since he's gotten here, he's certainly from
Speaker 1: our expectations. I think we've all talked about how he's
Speaker 1: exceeded that. Just the fact that he's actually on the
Speaker 1: field and to come back from that injury that quickly
Speaker 1: and be out there playing. The expectation is okay. They're
Speaker 1: getting what they kind of wanted, so to bring in
Speaker 1: another guy makes you makes you question just a little bit, right, Although, well,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the timing's weird. You know,
Speaker 1: they could have done this anytime between March and before
Speaker 1: they got out here. But I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: out of both sides of my mouth because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I think this is a good thing, because this is
Speaker 1: a debate that we have with the fans every summer
Speaker 1: where they're like, why don't you go get Hooker And
Speaker 1: we're like, well they have Casey and it's like, is
Speaker 1: demonte CAZy good? And like you're just like, we solved
Speaker 1: our problems, We're good to go. No, and Malie Cooker
Speaker 1: shouldn't break the bank to the point where you can't
Speaker 1: get both, so throw them both out there and see
Speaker 1: what you got. So I think I think the timing
Speaker 1: is weird, but I very much appreciate that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, why not just go get a former
Speaker 1: first round pick and see if he's better than what
Speaker 1: we got. I think it's it's a great idea. I
Speaker 1: think the safety position is one where they are completely
Speaker 1: throwing stuff at the wall and looking at what sticks.
Speaker 1: At this point they should which that's all they can
Speaker 1: do with this. If you're not going to draft one,
Speaker 1: you might as well do what you can sneakinning. Is
Speaker 1: it is it is. It's Will McClay one, O one,
Speaker 1: you know, first round pick who can be had on
Speaker 1: the chief, who maybe you can help him revitalize his career.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. All right, we're gonna if he signs.
Speaker 1: I guess we don't even that's gonna happen. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the coordinators. They all spoke to the media yesterday,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Dan Quinn, and John Fossil. There was some
Speaker 1: interesting things that each of them said that we'll go through.
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Speaker 1: and practice times. Out here in Oxnard, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the second segment of the Braak Life from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: Day three of training Camp twenty twenty one presented by
Speaker 1: American Airlines. Let's talk about the coordinators. Yesterday, Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, and John Fossil took their turns with the
Speaker 1: media to discuss varying various topics. So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: through here a few things I heard from each of
Speaker 1: them that I wanted to get your your thoughts on.
Speaker 1: Kelln Moore talked about Dak. He was asked the question
Speaker 1: about Dak rushing after the injury, and his response was,
Speaker 1: it would be foolish of us to take that away
Speaker 1: from him. You guys agree with that or disagree? Or
Speaker 1: do you think that maybe they should at least consider
Speaker 1: the possibility of altering how they use him, maybe less
Speaker 1: called runs, or do you think, yeah, you stick with
Speaker 1: what it is. It's football. The chance of injury is
Speaker 1: always there. You gotta keep doing what you do. What
Speaker 1: you just said, Yeah, it's football, and it is a
Speaker 1: crucial element of Dak's game. He's never gonna be Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson running for eight hundred eleven hundred yards a year,
Speaker 1: but he needs that, and I you know, I think
Speaker 1: the status I mean, he's he's among if not the
Speaker 1: league leader in like red zone touchdowns as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just brings an element that opens things up.
Speaker 1: Not to mention his ability to scramble and make plays
Speaker 1: on the move. I mean half or more of the
Speaker 1: best plays of his career, or when something broke down
Speaker 1: and he scrambled and made something happen. He I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just got a knack for it. Not to mention
Speaker 1: he I mean what this is, He's played five years
Speaker 1: of pro ball. He was a three year starter at
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, carrying that offense on his back, carrying the
Speaker 1: ball five hundred times a year for them, and never
Speaker 1: got seriously hurt. So no, I wouldn't change anything about
Speaker 1: the way DA plays. I mean all George still jumps,
Speaker 1: you know, he still makes plays, and I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to say it. He had one of the worst
Speaker 1: injuries that you've ever seen or not seen. If you're
Speaker 1: like me and look away, you have things like that
Speaker 1: that happened, yeah, and you have to come back to
Speaker 1: year point, like I forget that that ever happened to
Speaker 1: Paul George, Like when he was kicking ass in the
Speaker 1: playoffs this year, not even thinking about it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it like Dave said, I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but he might be closer to that than
Speaker 1: he would be Aaron Rodgers, you know. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into all that. I mean, Dak is
Speaker 1: a complete quarterback. He really is, because because he throws
Speaker 1: the ball, runs the ball that But but what makes
Speaker 1: him special is that he's got that knack to kind
Speaker 1: of go get it and find, you know, get those
Speaker 1: extra yards and carry people in and flip over the
Speaker 1: top and all that and fearless to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 1: And so you take that away from him, you're taking
Speaker 1: away you know, if you take that away from him,
Speaker 1: then he becomes that three star recruit that that nobody,
Speaker 1: not everybody really wanted, or that fourth round pick that
Speaker 1: not everybody wanted, because they're not measuring what's really on
Speaker 1: the inside of him. And the stuff that's on the
Speaker 1: inside is someone that's gonna say I'm kicking ass, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run your ass over or flip over you, or
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. You're taking that away if you
Speaker 1: if you don't let him be Dack and that and
Speaker 1: the play where he hurt his ankles is freak. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he's been tackled so many times,
Speaker 1: and let's he got he got mauled in college, like
Speaker 1: if you like, just like he was, he's a one
Speaker 1: man show going against Alabama. And don't tell me that's
Speaker 1: the like that's too different than the NFL. Like that
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Allen and the guys that are in the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, we're just teeing off on him. He
Speaker 1: didn't have Tyrn Smith. Yeah, he didn't have those guys.
Speaker 1: He might have had like one other NFL player on
Speaker 1: those teams. Um, and he was fine. I just I
Speaker 1: don't you know, you can't. You can't live in fear,
Speaker 1: scared money, don't make money. Let him play. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just a little fun here. I'm gonna take a little offshoot.
Speaker 1: This was not on our rundown, but as you guys
Speaker 1: were talking, I was reminded of this. I was watching
Speaker 1: ESPN yesterday and one of the guys on there, who
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of his anyway, so and
Speaker 1: I'm always saying that. I'll tell you why I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: But um, he made the comment. He said, I think
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and Daniel Jones have the exact same skill set,
Speaker 1: and again I'm not a big fan of it. So
Speaker 1: my first reaction was you're dumb. And so I don't
Speaker 1: know if I said that because I already don't like
Speaker 1: his brand of commentary, or if it really was a
Speaker 1: false statement. But as I started thinking about, I was like,
Speaker 1: could this be true? And I'm just not giving enough
Speaker 1: credit because of the person that said it. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinions. Do you think that's a
Speaker 1: that's a fair statement to say that they have similar
Speaker 1: skill sets. There's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good people doing work in the national media. I'm not
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying all media sucks, but like just
Speaker 1: some of those guys are just so stupid. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care here. And and Daniel Jones is a
Speaker 1: good athlete. Yes, he's a very good athlete. He's the
Speaker 1: classic like sneaky athletic, which is just a nice way
Speaker 1: of saying he's white. Yeah, kind of like Joe Burrow. Um,
Speaker 1: he had to just get that part. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, people said it about him all
Speaker 1: through that season and during the draft process, Like, Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is a good athlete. But I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: he played fourteen games last year and through eleven touchdowns
Speaker 1: and ten interceptions, he didn't crack three thousand yards like Dak.
Speaker 1: Dak was comparable to that in five games. Come like,
Speaker 1: and need we bring up the highlight of him tripping
Speaker 1: over his own feet with nobody around him? Nick was
Speaker 1: just talking about, I mean, you know, Dak is throwing
Speaker 1: Josh Norman out of the way in the open field
Speaker 1: and flipping over people to win playoff games, Like, shut
Speaker 1: up that, No, And Daniel Jones is a good athlete,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't deserve to be compared to Dak at
Speaker 1: this point in his career. Well, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: skill set, what what is that? What are we really
Speaker 1: saying here? Does he throw the ball better than Dak?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: Like like all that what Dave's saying, None of that
Speaker 1: stuff really matters. Can you get the job done? Can
Speaker 1: you go and take your team to the next level?
Speaker 1: Can you get from here to there without falling down?
Speaker 1: Can you not fumble the football? And all that? He's
Speaker 1: not He's not there the type of quarterback that Dak
Speaker 1: is in Dak in his second year was way above
Speaker 1: what he is as well. So I mean skill set.
Speaker 1: I always think about skill set of can you go
Speaker 1: out to Disney World and be in that quarterback challenge
Speaker 1: or whatever? Okay, great, can beat the guy. Ironically, people
Speaker 1: killed Dak for years because he did that and sucked
Speaker 1: at it. Remember that, Like I think, yeah, maybe David
Speaker 1: Carr beat him in one of those like accuracy games,
Speaker 1: Like Dak was just there to promote something, and like
Speaker 1: people pulled that video up for years. I don't give
Speaker 1: a damn about that, right, That's not what it is.
Speaker 1: That's not you know, that's it's not about that, and
Speaker 1: so skills, who cares? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't,
Speaker 1: Daniel Joe, I looked it up. Sorry, but that's how
Speaker 1: that's just like saying that that this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: like Kyle Korver is a better shooter than you know,
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant or whatever. Okay, maybe he could win the
Speaker 1: three point contest, but let's play. Why don't we just
Speaker 1: put him out there and let's play and see what happens.
Speaker 1: You know, Steve Kerr was a really good shooter, but
Speaker 1: he wouldn't he wouldn't beating you know, Michael Jordan, Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones through for twenty nine hundred yards and eleven
Speaker 1: touchdowns in fourteen games, Dac through for eighteen hundred and
Speaker 1: nine in five not even five four and a half
Speaker 1: because he left the Giants game early. So I no, stop,
Speaker 1: I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe well no, I'm like, maybe
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to be a revelation and really
Speaker 1: turn the corner. But if I had to guess, I
Speaker 1: think four months from now the Giants are gonna look
Speaker 1: like idiots for not going after justin Field. It's a
Speaker 1: fied to guess. Well, and you know whoever said that,
Speaker 1: I don't even know who said that, but basically just
Speaker 1: trying to draw people offsides and Derek, you just decus
Speaker 1: heard that thing around the corner. No, no, no, The
Speaker 1: reason why is because I again, sometimes you know, I
Speaker 1: goes there's certain people you really respect and others you don't,
Speaker 1: and so others you don't. Typically when they say things,
Speaker 1: it's easy to dismiss them, right, And so I was like,
Speaker 1: and as I honestly, as I started thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I thought, well, he can run the ball. He probably
Speaker 1: doesn't get as much credit for being able to run
Speaker 1: the ball as he does. We know he can throw
Speaker 1: the ball down field. We've seen that before. He's done
Speaker 1: that to go with the Giants. So you just think
Speaker 1: about it. From that standpoint, those two skills, you could
Speaker 1: probably make some argument that they're comparable. I still was like,
Speaker 1: I still am not willing to go there, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure I wasn't thinking about this
Speaker 1: more so from the standpoint of me having not really
Speaker 1: I think he's a terrible quarterback at all. I think
Speaker 1: he you know, I think they have a chance to
Speaker 1: be pretty good offensively. He's gonna come into his own.
Speaker 1: He's got a running back now, you know back, And
Speaker 1: I think that he's got a good compliment of receivers
Speaker 1: out there. We'll see how good they are with him.
Speaker 1: But I think he's got just just on the face
Speaker 1: of it, decent setup of receivers down there. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. Let's talk about Dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: his comment. The first one I want to talk about, um,
Speaker 1: he told his story about a situation where they miked
Speaker 1: up Demante because casey, uh, they've tell that story and
Speaker 1: and kind of the relevance that he was at the
Speaker 1: point he was making with the story. Yeah, Casey tipped
Speaker 1: us off to it when he spoke to the media,
Speaker 1: but he was basically saying, you know, dan Quinn's gonna
Speaker 1: come up with ways to get what he wants at view.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's a talkative, loud personality guy in life,
Speaker 1: but on the field, he wasn't doing enough. He wasn't communicating,
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking as much as he needed to. And
Speaker 1: this was back when he was in Atlanta years ago,
Speaker 1: not right now. But so dan Quinn miked him up,
Speaker 1: like not like NFL films miked him up, you know,
Speaker 1: coaching staff, just to kind of show him what he
Speaker 1: was or in this case, was not doing. And then
Speaker 1: I think dan Quinn was saying he showed him the video,
Speaker 1: which I think everybody's seen the video of John Lynch
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl for Tampa, and you know, he
Speaker 1: told Dexter Jack he would like before the play, he
Speaker 1: was like, we saw this on tape. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be that slugo and if you're right here, you're good
Speaker 1: to go. And he picked it off and ran back
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and like John Lynch was like, that's
Speaker 1: that's what right, That's what I said, right, which I
Speaker 1: always thought John Lynch was trying to like take credit
Speaker 1: for the like He's like, hey, well Dexter made the pick,
Speaker 1: but what anyway, But so dan Quinn's point was, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not enough to say like, hey, shade left, Shade right,
Speaker 1: Like you gotta to talk to coaches and say we
Speaker 1: you know, we saw this. They tend to do this
Speaker 1: in this formation. Keep your eye out for that. And
Speaker 1: I think he said, you know, it's it's basically essential
Speaker 1: at the safety position. That's part of your job. And
Speaker 1: I think it was just really Casey was saying, like,
Speaker 1: that's what we talk about when we say he's a
Speaker 1: player coach, is that he will do that type of
Speaker 1: stuff to help you get the most out of your game.
Speaker 1: And I wish that that more fans would would realize that,
Speaker 1: you know, just because you're a cornerback that might be
Speaker 1: slowing down, you know, and people think, well, if you're
Speaker 1: a cornerback like that, you just just play, you know,
Speaker 1: just play safety. You know you're older now, you want't
Speaker 1: we just move him to safety? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you got to be able to hit tackle and want
Speaker 1: to do it, and you also have to do what
Speaker 1: he's talking about, the full understand everybody's position and get
Speaker 1: them lined up. And it's not it's not you know
Speaker 1: every day where a cornerback or can just do that.
Speaker 1: It's happened. There's been some good corners that kind of
Speaker 1: shift over into that. But you know, there's more to
Speaker 1: a safety than just being a guy that's kind of
Speaker 1: a slower corner. It's not what it is at all,
Speaker 1: which I think Quinn also, you know, referencing the John
Speaker 1: Lynch tape, he was like, that's the championship standard we're
Speaker 1: trying to meet. That doesn't mean you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: that from the get, but that's where you're trying to
Speaker 1: go if when you understand things on that level, ye
Speaker 1: all right. Another thing he said that was interesting to me,
Speaker 1: and this was kind of he just kind of threw
Speaker 1: this in, but he was talking about the cornerbacks and
Speaker 1: he said there will be times we'll want to make
Speaker 1: we'll want to match up, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: moving them around that The question was should we expect
Speaker 1: to see the guy's line at the cornerbacks lining up
Speaker 1: on the same side consistently. He was like, no, I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna move them around because there are times
Speaker 1: you might want to match up. And the first time
Speaker 1: I'd really heard the idea that they may be traveling
Speaker 1: guys because they want to get a particular matchup. So
Speaker 1: my question for you guys is, did you get the
Speaker 1: same thing that that could suggest that they may decide
Speaker 1: to travel guys for specific matchups on game days? And
Speaker 1: if so, who's the number one cornerback you think on
Speaker 1: this team that would match up with the top y
Speaker 1: receiver from an opponent or do you expect this to
Speaker 1: be kind of something that varies based upon the skill
Speaker 1: set of that particular player and then they match up
Speaker 1: the corner they think is best to travel with him.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have that corner right now. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean Diggs, Yeah, we think he's he's going, you know, forward,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a really good player. But I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. I mean, he got burnt a lot
Speaker 1: last year. We gave him that rookie pass because he
Speaker 1: is a rookie thrown into the fire. He's gonna he
Speaker 1: got thrown in more than what Joseph's gonna get thrown into,
Speaker 1: I believe, but but he handled it. He kept coming
Speaker 1: back from morning. I think he's getting better. But I
Speaker 1: think digs a style of play is going to have
Speaker 1: a really big game, defensive player of the week type
Speaker 1: of game, two interceptions and stuff. I think he'll also
Speaker 1: get burned really bad a game too, because that's the
Speaker 1: type of player he is. I see a Generas Jenkins
Speaker 1: type guy with him, kind of hot and cold. I mean,
Speaker 1: just because he's gonna be the risk taker, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna get picks. He's gonna get meat at times too.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they have a guy, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say honestly, I prefer that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Give me a couple turnover, give me some turnovers, because
Speaker 1: guess what, every cornerback gets beat. I want the guy
Speaker 1: that is also going to if you're gonna get beat
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes give me the ball, Like give me a
Speaker 1: turnover and I'll take that. I'll accept the fact that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat. You would rather have that or
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, who really didn't get beat a lot, didn't
Speaker 1: make a lot of I want the guy's gonna give
Speaker 1: me some turnovers. I seen one especially with an offense
Speaker 1: that's that I expect is gonna score like this one,
Speaker 1: give me some turnovers. I think I'm just that memory
Speaker 1: of Dez just abusing generas Jenkins. Maybe that's a bad example. No, no,
Speaker 1: I hear you. Though I would say Terrell Buckley, but
Speaker 1: you know most people don't even remember that guy. I
Speaker 1: was about to say that was like, that's back to
Speaker 1: the day bucks A game. Yeah, Yeah, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I really five six a year and not
Speaker 1: a game. I'm gonna say that year. Um. I really
Speaker 1: thought Dan was just talking more about figuring things out
Speaker 1: at training camp and then like what they're gonna do? Okay.
Speaker 1: He he had a great line that I liked a lot,
Speaker 1: talking about you know, we basically got forty days before
Speaker 1: this really starts to count, and like and over those
Speaker 1: forty days, we just got to figure this whole thing out.
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of that, which I do
Speaker 1: love that. Though you know they're gonna they're gonna move
Speaker 1: guys around, you're not always gonna be at left corner,
Speaker 1: right corner. Anthony Brown, he said he's gonna play a
Speaker 1: lot of nickel while he's here. Kelvin Joseph and and
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs maybe as well. I think it's just about
Speaker 1: finding who does what the best so that when you
Speaker 1: get to the season maybe you have those options. As
Speaker 1: you know right now from what we've seen. I don't
Speaker 1: even like to talk about traveling guys because that implies
Speaker 1: that you have a badass cornerback who can do that.
Speaker 1: It's like, like, even, you know, it's cool that these
Speaker 1: guys have the versatility, Like I think it's valuable that
Speaker 1: AB can move into the slot, but it's like, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: we're playing we're playing the best slot in the league.
Speaker 1: AB get in there. It's like, oh no, like terrified
Speaker 1: number one. So I think it's really just more about
Speaker 1: finding who's comfortable with what so that you know what
Speaker 1: you can do with them when it is time to
Speaker 1: match up against opponents. All right, let's talk about actually
Speaker 1: before we get to John Fossil and what he had
Speaker 1: to see about speial teams, which ball was really interesting.
Speaker 1: We're going to take our final break and then we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk a little bit of special teams.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the final segment of the break
Speaker 1: Lifemox Snard, California. This is going to be the second
Speaker 1: practice the Cowboys will have out here this afternoon, I'm
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Speaker 1: especially on connected TV that will be Apple TV, Amazon
Speaker 1: Fire or Roku. All right, so let's talk about John Fossil,
Speaker 1: Special Teams Coordinator. UM. Yesterday he started, not started his portion.
Speaker 1: There was actually a little part before then. We were
Speaker 1: talking about his dad, really emotional stuff but then we
Speaker 1: got into some of the conversations. Um, you guys are
Speaker 1: more into the whole protocol of the media. Nobody likes
Speaker 1: to talk about that stuff more than us. That's fair. Well,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, you guys have unwritten rules. It's
Speaker 1: like baseball, right, you guys have unwritten rules about you know,
Speaker 1: the enders and all that kind of stuff, which I
Speaker 1: really don't get involved in. I think the thing about it,
Speaker 1: and Jory even said it, Jory Epstein said it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of shift to football after that,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's how the press conferences sometimes.
Speaker 1: I thought it was, you know, it's it's the first
Speaker 1: time we've seen him since his father passed away, and
Speaker 1: give him a chance to talk about it. And I'd
Speaker 1: rather have it come at the beginning or the end
Speaker 1: than ask five football questions get yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: so you know, I thought it was. It was nice.
Speaker 1: He had some very very complimentary things, obviously to say
Speaker 1: about his dad and his relationship with his dad, and
Speaker 1: so I thought it was it was well done, interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: If you hadn't heard, he can go back and check
Speaker 1: it out. But that being said, the conversation then moved
Speaker 1: to long snappers. And I'll speak for myself. I was
Speaker 1: under the impression going into this offseason that it was
Speaker 1: almost a no brainer that LP Lattiser would return as
Speaker 1: their long snapper. He'd been in forever. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was a bad long snapper. I thought he was
Speaker 1: good at what he did. But they made the decision
Speaker 1: to move on to Jake McQuaid. And the question was
Speaker 1: asked about what the primary reason was for that, And Nick,
Speaker 1: I liked your follow up question because you asked him, so,
Speaker 1: what makes a good long snapper? What was his answer
Speaker 1: and how is that relevant to what he was talking
Speaker 1: about or do you think it's relevant to what he
Speaker 1: was talking about with why they went with McQuaid, I
Speaker 1: don't remember the answer. And once he said that was
Speaker 1: a good question, I was patting myself on the back
Speaker 1: and I totally just didn't understand. No, I'm kidding. He
Speaker 1: he said, throwing the ball back is line one. You know,
Speaker 1: Garrett would say everyone can throw the ball back, And
Speaker 1: seriously watch college football. I mean, how many bad snap
Speaker 1: Steve really see it happens. But the guys that are
Speaker 1: training they can do it. That's not what it's about
Speaker 1: it's about protections, it's about understanding where where the where
Speaker 1: the rush is coming from. And then it's also about
Speaker 1: getting in lanes. It's not just running down the field
Speaker 1: and making tackles. It's also staying in your lane and
Speaker 1: making sure across the you know the line, that you're good.
Speaker 1: And now he's not the first one down, but he's
Speaker 1: LP was down there enough to you know. So you
Speaker 1: gotta have some athleticism to do that. I gotta have
Speaker 1: some understanding. And more than anything, did you hear what
Speaker 1: he said about what Jake Jake mcquaido think wants to
Speaker 1: be a linebacker. Okay, he's not one he wants to
Speaker 1: be though he understands. He still does reps and stuff
Speaker 1: to tackle because he still got to do it. Didn't
Speaker 1: see LP doing that. And I'm not gonna throw out
Speaker 1: you said LP was a good snapper. LP was a
Speaker 1: phenomenal snapper. He had no bad snaps in seventeen years
Speaker 1: of phenomenal snapper. Now, maybe what Fossil's trying to do
Speaker 1: in some other things, Jake McQuaid fits better. He's had
Speaker 1: him before. They both were free agents. He picked the
Speaker 1: one that you like and he said, I think LP
Speaker 1: has some ball left in him. Even though no one
Speaker 1: assigned him. He said, I think mcquait's got a lot
Speaker 1: of football left in him. So you know, he went
Speaker 1: from forty to thirty two thirty three. You know, that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what it was. But it was
Speaker 1: it was just more to it than just you know,
Speaker 1: because they're all gonna be perfect and snaps knock on wood.
Speaker 1: I thought that that last part was interesting to me, Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean people were all curious and up in arms
Speaker 1: about that when it happened, and I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, coaches bringing their guys all the time, and
Speaker 1: just you don't see him fire the longest tenured player
Speaker 1: and team history very often. But I think you know,
Speaker 1: McQuaid has been to two Pro Bowls, he's clearly really
Speaker 1: good at what he does. And you're weighing it and
Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, the credentials are similar enough that this
Speaker 1: makes sense if you like him more whatever. And mcquaid's
Speaker 1: thirty three, LP's forty, So I mean if you can
Speaker 1: get and what LP got here during parcels, yeah, and
Speaker 1: stayed through. He was here from Bill Parcels to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: So if Jake McQuaid catches on here, he could be
Speaker 1: the long snapper for the next four or five coaches
Speaker 1: who will be running this department. By the It's entirely possible.
Speaker 1: Wasn't who's next? The next coach? Man? That's sure of
Speaker 1: David Kellen Moore? You know, let me say this. Oh
Speaker 1: and I really don't want to transition into that with
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, talk about like next coach, I'm not saying yet.
Speaker 1: When Kellen Moore was getting talked about being the coach
Speaker 1: at Boise State, I'll be honest, I look at him
Speaker 1: and I don't see head coach. Why I don't, Well,
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't see it a personality why
Speaker 1: standing up there all that. I didn't really see it
Speaker 1: out of Mike Zimmer either. And he's been a really
Speaker 1: good coach and on that. You don't have to be
Speaker 1: of this charismatic, you know, Jerry Glanville type, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: all the time. Yesterday I saw it more with Kellen
Speaker 1: than I've ever seen before. I thought he had a
Speaker 1: lot more presence up there command. I thought he was
Speaker 1: really insightful with this thing. You're joking a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, even kind of knowing his strength,
Speaker 1: knowing that he's not the going to be the star
Speaker 1: of HBO hard knock, which might make him the star
Speaker 1: of heart you know when you do that. But I'm again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is new head, next head coach
Speaker 1: of Cowboys anything like that. I just think I could
Speaker 1: see head coaching material for him for some team or
Speaker 1: college pro whatever, you know. I just I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy that brought him here is it's the same guy.
Speaker 1: Like Kellen Moore was a better quarterback than Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: but like far better, far better. But it's it's like
Speaker 1: uncanny to me, Like I win in college ye college? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, no, in the NFL. Both of them
Speaker 1: are backups in the NFL. But in college he was
Speaker 1: far better winning his college quarterback ever had a really
Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving game. I mean, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the way Garrett led them back against Dartmouth. I
Speaker 1: missed that game too, but I bet he did. I
Speaker 1: bet he beat harder. I think you know, Kellen, you
Speaker 1: know kind of very smart guys, know a ton about football.
Speaker 1: Former quarterback offensive minded didn't have an amazing NFL career
Speaker 1: both War seventeen. By the way, new when to get hurt,
Speaker 1: to get out of the way so dat could get in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great point. I think Kellen's a little more comfortable showing
Speaker 1: his personality, but not all the way, Like he doesn't
Speaker 1: like that stuff. He'll grow into that. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: but you know, um you remember you've seen the commercials
Speaker 1: that he does in Idaho, right, like it's there. He's
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, yeah, like Romo, like that same thing.
Speaker 1: He'd show you something very different here than what his
Speaker 1: real personality. He doesn't like to put it on display,
Speaker 1: but it's there. But I, uh, he got me, he
Speaker 1: threw me off, he got me, got all sides. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I have no idea what he just said.
Speaker 1: But I have something, something, something, This is going to
Speaker 1: be so much fun a program that hasn't won something
Speaker 1: since the Bush. Here we go, Here we go, Here
Speaker 1: we go anyway. Texas are so excited about it either
Speaker 1: because we get to recruit without that being held over
Speaker 1: our heads. That's why I'm excited about it. Tech and
Speaker 1: Baylor were given some you know, some tough games. Don't
Speaker 1: care about that, Like that's irrelevant. What I care about.
Speaker 1: Is we get to recruit without the SEC being held
Speaker 1: over our head. That's lost your number one quarterback recruit
Speaker 1: to the Big ten. It doesn't matter the SEC. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter right now. Nobody wants to big But
Speaker 1: by the way, the Big ten is just as good
Speaker 1: as the SEC right now, as far as the reputation,
Speaker 1: nobody's saying, well, you want to go into play in
Speaker 1: the SEC or like either one of those are comparable.
Speaker 1: You don't You don't hear the actually good program Oklahoma
Speaker 1: making all this noise. They're just like, yeah, we'll play
Speaker 1: well whatever, we'll do it and not true, not true.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about listening anyway. Get back to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So what were you saying, Dave, Sorry, I don't remember. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think I mean. Kellen Moore just reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of Jason Garrett, I think, is what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say. And actually he was ironic that you
Speaker 1: said that, Nick, because yesterday, as I was standing there
Speaker 1: watching Kellen Moore, I was thinking to myself, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of fits the part of a of a coach,
Speaker 1: like I can see him standing he was standing there,
Speaker 1: he was taking the questions, he was fairly engaging with
Speaker 1: the questions with his answers. I thought, actually he did
Speaker 1: present for me yesterday as a as what a coach
Speaker 1: would be. Well, all three coach guys were up there.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has been a head coach, he's coaching Quins
Speaker 1: on the whole of the Yeah, he's on a different level.
Speaker 1: John Fossil was an interim coach for a couple of games. Um,
Speaker 1: he's a very good at his craft. His dad, as
Speaker 1: he talked about, has been a coach in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He understands how that works. And Kellen Moore, I think
Speaker 1: is on his way as well. And Kellen Moore's dad
Speaker 1: was a coach righted him, coached him in high school.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is a very well rounded, uh
Speaker 1: group of coordinators and not just coordinators. But you don't
Speaker 1: look on the staff again, how many guys have been
Speaker 1: a head coach and the last year it was five.
Speaker 1: This year it's maybe four again with the been a
Speaker 1: head coach at some point. Kellen Moore, I'm not Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: but h Quinn, those three and Phil billman Um mcadoo's
Speaker 1: on the staff now ye've been a coach, so you
Speaker 1: know they they've got guys that that can, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully help McCarthy if needed when you know, just for
Speaker 1: different things that that pop up. Yeah, which I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to stir up drama at all. I'm
Speaker 1: not suggesting Kellen Moore has ulterior motives. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you turned down the head job at your program
Speaker 1: where you're a god to just be NOC in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, No, But I do think you turn it
Speaker 1: down if your expectation. And yes, I agree with what
Speaker 1: he's saying. Yeah, the one thing I will say is
Speaker 1: I don't think he necessarily has designs on this head
Speaker 1: coaching job. I think he looked at it, That's my point.
Speaker 1: But he's like, if you're gonna get in college football,
Speaker 1: you go to Boise. Yeah, exactly, that's where he wins
Speaker 1: exactly right, which he loves Boise. But he's like, I've
Speaker 1: got higher aspirations than Boys State. And let's be clear,
Speaker 1: if this offense plays the way that we all expected
Speaker 1: to play this year, and let's assume for a second,
Speaker 1: then maybe they get with that some team success. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot commodity next year as far as
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs are concerned in the NFL. If this
Speaker 1: offense is as good as it should be, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, he'll be in that you know, there's
Speaker 1: always that circle of coordinators that's you know, it's been
Speaker 1: the enemy for forever. At this point, he'll be he'll
Speaker 1: be on that list if this offense is where it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Absolutely all right, We appreciate you guys,
Speaker 1: John Us. We'll be back tomorrow a lot more to
Speaker 1: talk about Cowboy. I'm sorry. We'll be back on Monday tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll be talking Cowboys. We'll have these practices today and
Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll be able to recap those four you and
Speaker 1: give you some insight as to what we're seeing out
Speaker 1: here in Oxnard. Till then, for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman,
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