WEBVTT - Light Check Heat Years 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:12.840 Come Home, Come Home. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:16.520 Come Home. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.800 On this episode of the Heat Check, we've got the 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.480 light Year boys talking about what's happening with Golden State. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.280 They just blew a lead to the Mavericks. Draymond's nowhere 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.240 in sight. He's on his podcast. He's grinning from ear 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.479 to ear with the TNT guys, and yet he's not 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.160 on the court. All right, Brock, let's drop. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.640 That big Sunday perfect. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.080 All right, let's get this pop in, man, let's get 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.840 this vibe going. Co host of the light Years podcast, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.640 Andy Lou Sam Aspindiari, we're talking a little Warriors on 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.040 a Monday night. Pot will probably come out on Tuesday, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.840 because I'm not going to make my guy Brock not 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.400 only sit here with his laptop open, but I'm not 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.399 gonna be a she devil and make him edit this 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.560 thing and put it on the podcast. So, if you're 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.520 listening to this, it's happening on a Tuesday. On a Tuesday, 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.400 what are you guys doing? What is going on? How 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.880 do you end up losing a twenty point twenty over 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.559 twenty point fourth quarterly to the MAVs. They're over here. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.360 You got Spencer Dinwoodie giving you the business. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.680 First off, Andy's Warriors lost the twenty point My Warriors 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.640 were on the injured list. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.400 It's it's been downhill actually since since my victory lap 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.240 in the beginning of the season for the Warriors. If 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.600 you if you're checked in on the last thirty games 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.959 of the Warriors, they've actually been more of a seven 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.520 seed than they've been a two seed. Right that they 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.800 are right now. They've actually still got the second Bessett 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.840 record in the NBA. Didn't feel like it. King Johnson 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.200 and I went for fifty two. We've got steps still 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.600 stuck it around thirty five thirty seven percent from three. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.520 So it's been a it's been a weird few months 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.800 actually the Warriors. You talk about slumping, it's it's this 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.160 is not a this is not a what is it? Sam? 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.040 This is not like a blip anymore. If he was 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.040 like a trend almost with these guys. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.600 Yeah, it's like, well, I'm fifty to fifty on it 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.440 because on the one hand, they're missing, you know, like 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.880 Sunday they had no Draymond Green, no Klay Thompson. In theory, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.359 you should lose that game. On the other hand, when 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.160 you're up twenty with at the end of the third quarter, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.200 it doesn't really matter who you have, like you should 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.400 be able to just coast that one to a victory. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.240 And that's kind of like the dichotomy of the Warrior season. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.320 It's like we can tell ourselves, like when Draymond comes back, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.160 when they figure it all out, like I like the 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.799 way the roster looks. But then on the other hand, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.560 you know James Wiseman is ramping it up and they 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.840 plan to insert him, and I don't know what that 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.200 means random wise. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.640 Can I just say this, I have some I don't 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.679 have a lot of intel in this business. I don't 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.720 have a lot of intel. I don't because I'm I 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.600 don't go to games anymore post pandemic. I don't talk 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.960 to anyone really, I'm just basically I'm not Nope, I'm 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.600 not woj I'm stuck into a studio mostly like for 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.320 pretty much all of my life. But here and there 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.680 I get some sprinklings. I do not think James Wiseman 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.240 is coming back to c I don't think so. And 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.079 and that's not just my own imagination. I think that's 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.840 that there's there's whispers, but I mean, who knows. I 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.680 think that the optimism of him playing given how little 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.000 time is left in the season. What what you would 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.600 need twenty games left in the season, get them ramped up, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:46.600 and then what you do the same hashtag the ramp 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.640 up that's been happening all year long was set back 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.520 with your setback, right, and then you've got like kaminga 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.200 who's getting starter minutes as well. I just find it 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.480 to be very not concerned. Concern is not the right word. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.200 I would say puzzling that there are teams that believe 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.240 that they can develop guys. At the same time, there's. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.960 Only one team that believe that there. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.720 Is These are not the These are not the actions 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.680 of a team that are all in on winning the 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.839 title right twenty twenty two. So, like, I'm with you, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.800 and like, even if we take a step back, if 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:22.039 Wiseman comes back, he hasn't played basketball in the year, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.800 and it's not like we're talking about a ten year 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:25.599 veteran here. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.800 And he's Clay coming back from the ACL Yeah, well 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:29.840 he's Clay coming back. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.120 It's you know, it's a. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.919 He's not going to be ready to guard Nikola jokicch 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.760 in eight games. Well, the sick part is that they 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.560 actually kind of need him. That's really the sick part. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.600 I don't mind that he's not ready to play. You 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.279 kind of can't blame the kid who could be ready. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.520 But the really disgusting part is be Elites is terrible. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.359 They didn't pick up a big in the trade market, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.919 and they're not going to pick up a big in 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.640 the buyout deadline that's coming up here. I think I 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.279 think it might have been today or tomorrow, so that 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.480 they're not picking anyone up. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.520 DeAndre Jordan guys, Actually. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.520 I'd rather ride with Bell, but point stance. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.320 I just actually that crossed my mind. What if they 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.200 do get dere What if they that would be pretty nasty. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.800 What what do you think happened? Like why didn't they 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.840 go out and get a big because you know, you 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.400 look like Rashaun Holmes was out there possible, like definitely gettable. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.080 Sacramento doesn't feel like he works in the system. With 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.839 the trays that they've made, you've obviously the big fish. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.320 To try to go out and figure out probably not 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.080 going to be possible at the trade deadline for a 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.800 Christian Wood type, but there are guys that you could 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:47.080 certainly try to maybe like even a Jalen Smith from Phoenix, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.800 like he ended up getting moved as well, Like do 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.920 you think that there's some regret that they didn't try 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.200 to do more with the center position given like the 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.839 herniated disc or bulging disc for Draymond and kind of 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.600 how Cavon has there's not a lot of debt there either. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.400 Yeah, I mean it's like where do we go with 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.360 this one? It if I was to describe the Warriors, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:20.320 it's think of the most stereotypical Silicon Valley tech company possible, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.360 and that's their decision making. It's like they're more concerned 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.720 with selling low on. It doesn't matter what it is. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:36.799 Wiseman future pick doesn't matter, like then acknowledging like okay, 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.240 maybe maybe in a year and a half will be 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.479 better than this, and you know it might look bad, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.680 but this is gonna give us a better shot to 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.680 win a title. And let's let's be this is a 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.440 pretty wide open year. Like do you do you think 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.680 anyone is like an out and out favorite this year? 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.640 Like I think Milwaukee and Philly look good, but like 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.159 it's not the you know, it's not the nineteen ninety 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.599 six Bowls. You know, it's not that sort of situation. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.120 So the Warriors will will I think they yeah, they 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.600 want to act like they're the smartest team in the 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.240 NBA and this is the way to do it. And 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.600 they've got guys that that aren't gonna push them, like 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.400 Stephan Draymond aren't really like, oh, let's let's figure out 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.280 how to get Miles Turner, which is actually I think 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.560 the other name that was That was interesting if you're 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.760 talking about it, guys like that like that, that's a 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.680 guy that they could have looked into. But end of 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.000 the day, they're saying, hey, we're gonna we're gonna rely 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.360 on Draymond. He's gonna be the starting center when things 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.120 when things are you know, eight minutes left in crunch time. Right, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.680 last night Draymond plays, they win. Last night Clay plays, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.720 they win, or two nights go now. So that's what 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.480 they're relying on. They're saying, Hey, we're gonna be We're 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.080 gonna be like the Spurs of a few years back. Right, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.800 let's just get to the posts and we're gonna win 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.480 fifty five games. But as long as we get those 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.880 three guys healthy, I would say that they're as good 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.720 as a chance to win anyone to win a championship 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.440 if those guys are healthy, or just. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.240 Like the Spurs, where it's like, you know what, we're 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.560 gonna stick to our plan. It might not hit the 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.720 highest of highs, but we're also never gonna have you know, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.960 like whatever the hell's going with the Lakers this year 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.360 with like we're going to trade it all for oops, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.320 Russell Westbrook, that type of thing, Like it's ride like 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.880 the consistent, like we're going to trust that this is 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.040 going to turn into some sort of twenty fourteen perfect 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.040 Apex Spurs thing. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.040 Yeah, I think that the thing that is very obvious 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:24.040 and evident is that there is no shot that Joe 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:29.760 lacob is mortgaging his future for one, one possible title 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.280 right now, like I just or the next year for 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.160 a two year window. There's just absolutely no possibility given 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.800 the amount of rings that this team already has and 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.280 the amount of finals that they went to. He's like, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.480 I'm not settling for just putting all the chips in 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.280 and saying all right, we're gonna essentially just try to 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.720 get to get one more ring. That incremental the diminishing 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.400 returns that like Big Brain Silicon Valley economists in them. Right, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.120 there's just no that there's a pain point because in 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.920 a year from now, say you even win the ring, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.959 you've got the parade, and it's like what's next. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.880 There's now now we have now have a very expensive 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:12.000 Miles Turner and like thirty six year olds all around exactly. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.640 There is Joe Lacob wants to win when Steph retires, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.080 like he is thinking of I mean, of course he does, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.720 but he's thinking of like, hey, we're not we're not 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.480 doing the Lebron thing where Lebron leeds every team that 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.200 he's ever been on and they're just too ship. Once 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.720 he's once the Lake, once Lebron's done with the Lakers, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.880 you know this year or next year, whenever they're done 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.000 for four seasons, right lakeup does not want that to happen. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.920 Whether that's about to get the Maroon five. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.000 Guy to just post himself in every Jersey possible. Man, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.240 is that like too deep. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.120 Of the No, that's good. It's a good one, good 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.000 looking guy really really really went downhill though their music. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.240 But anyway, there there, that's where he doesn't want to be. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.120 Joe Lacob wants to say, I have Wiseman comingham Pool. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.640 I could win without Steph. You know, I don't know 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.080 who knows if that'll work out, but that's what he wants. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.280 I was talking to somebody about this the other day, though, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.000 I don't think in the history of sports, outside of 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:11.079 like Joe Montana, Steve Young and Aaron and Aaron Rodgers, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:16.520 Brett Favre, that you can't, yeah, that you can basically say, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.120 all right, well, there's gonna be no gap between one 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.520 dynasty and another that whole like we're gonna cross over 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:29.400 and have no like, no window of trashness. I wouldn't 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.119 even call that mediocrity. I would say like a rebuild. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.760 It seems it seems like they believe that that's possible, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.640 and I don't know that it's proven itself to ever 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.600 be possible in sports outside of a couple anomalies. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.040 This is peak Silicon Valley. Winning isn't enough. They have 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.600 to like brain and break the whole cycle, you know, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.120 Like we were saying, most owners would be like, I 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.080 don't know, man, we're one of the three best teams 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.320 here in this move yep, gives us the title. Let's 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.559 go for it and we'll deal with twenty twenty five 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.840 when we get there, right, but not the Warriors. We're 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.440 we're trying to intellectually beat the world, beat history. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.199 Actually it's what they're trying to do, which is crazy 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.800 because all this comes down to how good Steph Curry is. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.360 I mean, he's already shown to be one of the 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.320 greatest players of all time. But if you want to 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.480 bridge the gap between now and then, you're basically asking 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.480 Steph Curry, who's now thirty three years old, to be 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.559 great for another three seasons because Kaminga's not going to 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.839 be a superstar. Sam and I are high on him, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.320 but he's not gonna be a superstar for another three seasons. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.040 Wiseman if everything breaks right, yeah, wise man, even you 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.360 know who knows? Right, So you're basically asking Steph to say, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.960 be great for three more years, win one title, and 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.120 then we're gonna get these guys like that. That's what 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.160 it always comes down to. Like it says nothing to 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.960 do with how smart you'll like up is it Just 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.280 it's it's how good Steph train, wont and play. It's 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:52.400 what it always comes down to. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.200 And to me, it's like I don't know and I 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.719 know that a big and a duo. It's that new 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.840 real immersions right that that James Harden and be that 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.800 two man game. There's like that's starting to become the 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.120 shiny new toy again and versus just guard play leading 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.679 the way. But if you wanted, I guess a crossover 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.439 or you wanted like a like to have that carry on, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.280 I don't understand. And We've talked about this a million times, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:22.920 so I'm not gonna be labor it. If you were 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.800 gonna do that, you would have taken LaMelo because that 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:30.679 would bridge the gap much easier than topic. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.080 like so old entire, but that's what you would have 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.800 done if you really wanted to bridge the gap. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.000 Well, and that's the other part because they're they're they 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.480 talk out of both sides of their mouths where they're like, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.800 we're trying to bridge the future, but he's a better fit. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.200 And I'm like, can you just be honest and be 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.960 like you kind of misscouted the situation, like you would 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.559 have took LaMelo if you knew who's this good? But 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.960 you didn't. You're a little timid. You kind of you 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.040 watched them, You're like. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.760 I don't know, they can barely handle Jordan Pooley let's 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.800 talk about like Jordan Poole right now, and LaMelo is 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.839 ten times better and and also they didn't draft him 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.120 because they felt like LaMelo was gonna be hard to coach. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.520 Let's be honest, And Jordan Poole right now, he didn't 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.560 play last night. He played nineteen minutes last night. Guys 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.920 like guys like Jta. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.199 He's been having a hard time with Clay Killer and 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.679 his role being a context push pushed back, you know. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.839 Yeah, and they feel like, no, they feel like he's 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.280 kind of a diva. And I think that's kind of 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.600 how they probably felt about LaMelo ball and why didn't 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.960 draft him? Uh and right now they like, let's be honest, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.880 they need Jordan Poole to win playoff games. And right now, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:40.960 Jordan Poole right now is not gonna win him anything. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.840 The're gonna they're gonna lose games with him out there. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.360 He is he looks lost after starting like a he 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.000 was a twenty million dollar pointer to start the year. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.760 Right now he's he's I don't know, he's mid level. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.040 How do you how do you get him back to 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.960 being locked in? Because it feels like, you know who's 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.200 responsible for that is that like a Clay, you know, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.120 take them by the shoulder and mentor him and like 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.600 take them on your boat and like take some Instagram 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.440 videos or like how do you get him to that place? 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.680 Because it seems like, you know, there's a big ego 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.720 shot when Clay's been out for two seasons and your 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.880 responsibility has gone up and all of a sudden, that's 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.120 been snatched away from you from someone who's you know, 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.840 very clearly deserves it. But still it's it's hard. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.600 Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you can figure 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.240 that out, you should have secrets job. So it's kind 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.760 of that's the other that's the other part of win 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:40.640 while developing for the future. That's tough. Jordan Poole does 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.040 not have generational wealth. He's not Klay Thompson signing like 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.800 a two hundred dollars deal for eternity, and he also 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.280 hasn't won three championships like Clay Steph. Those guys like 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.400 they're they're made men in NBA history and they're playing 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.640 for legacy and you know a bunch of stuff, and like, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.000 obviously you don't get to that point without being hyper competitive. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.160 Jordan Poole was the twenty eighth pick. And he's trying 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.440 to get that next contract and kind of figure out 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.800 who he is in this league. And that's kind of 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.960 the hard part about the whole like two timeline thing, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.960 because I don't think Clayer Steph care about their stats 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.160 like they're they know they're going to Hall of Fame. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.520 They know, like the difference between them averaging like twenty 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.640 four and twenty one points doesn't matter. Jordan Poole is 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.560 at that stage of his career where it's like, no, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.880 actually those two points per game or the difference between 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.600 fifty million dollars on my contract or something like that, 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.040 and that's that's. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.200 How you feel, right, and you're right. Maybe maybe it isn't. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.400 Maybe it isn't, but like until it's signed, it in 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.880 the bank account, right, I mean, Andy, I get I 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.840 get stressed over far smaller things. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.080 So, I mean dollars is the rumor that he was 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.960 gonna get this season? Right, and he's twenty two years old, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.040 you can understand it's not like he's the most mature person, 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.120 because shit, I mean I remember me at twenty two. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.160 If you putting twenty million dollars in front of my face, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.200 I would have done some weird stuff. And I mean 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.160 and this and this right now, I'm sure Jordan Poole 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.400 is not this is all off the right Yeah, take this, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.120 take this up. Yeah, Like, I'm sure he's not happy, Like, oh, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.640 who would be happy about this? At the same time, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.560 I guess the solution for me just let him play, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.920 like cut it out with the tough love stuff like 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.120 you are not Steve Kerr is not you're not a 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.760 college coaches the NBA. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.040 Like, so, what's the deal with that? He's basically like saying, 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.080 if your attitude is not right, I'm just not gonna 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.520 play you, or what's the deal. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.840 That I mean, Like, I don't know how, I don't 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.360 know how you read it like a last night it's 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:47.200 a perfect example. Okay, Klay Thompson's not playing, Jerymond Green's 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.720 obviously not playing. They start Moses Moody and GP. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.160 Two, like against the Mavericks. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.400 It's when you start those two that's like, we're doing 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.840 everything in our power to make sure Jordan Poole does 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.840 not start, especially and then. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.560 What do you say, nineteen minutes ninettes? 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:13.119 Yeah, he he kind of was slow off the bench, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.760 and it just you watched when. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:15.280 He was in there too. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.720 I would tell he was a little like, Yeah, pouting 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.959 is a great way to put it. It seems like 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.679 it was. It wasn't about like we think you're, you know, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.600 sloppy handling the ball. It felt very much like an 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:28.480 interpersonal thing. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.760 So yikes, yikes, Mike, Yeah, I mean that's definitely like 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.720 something that people aren't talking about. Is the is the 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.680 like shifts in culture with guys coming in and out 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.399 of the lineup in that new guard versus old guard 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.440 and trying to bridge the gap and like Kaminga getting 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.800 a lot of minutes when very clearly he's helping you 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.679 lose games right now even though he's a highlight machine. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.760 My question though, is like Raymond has just been out 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.119 for way too long. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.679 Draymond is also way too happy for someone that's been 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.760 out for way too long, and it is very weird. 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.800 Either he's cool being an inside the NBA TNT analyst 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.840 with with our guy Shaq and and Chuck, or he's 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.920 back next week right Friend of the Show, Charles, Yeah, 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.480 you can make a lot of like was he twenty 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.359 five million right now? I'm sure he gets, you know, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.120 a lot doing it, Like I just it's hard, Sam 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.439 and I are very confused because for someone that is 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:34.359 supposedly out for another month, he's a pretty cheery guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.800 it's it's the tone. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.119 I have a very hard time think he's not coming 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.600 back like he just he sounds like he's not concerned 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.040 about it. Like we can we can compare it. Remember 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.440 when Kevin Durant was hurt in twenty nineteen during the playoffs, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.280 be a silence. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.240 They literally walled us off. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.000 Yeah, exactly that sort of thing, or like you know, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:04.320 even James Soisa with the Warriors, waldof all that s Meanwhile, Draymond, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.600 like media sessions are like give me the microphone, I'm 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.560 about to do stand up comedy and tell you about 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.280 how much I'm going to dominate when I'm back. Like 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.399 he he doesn't have that like I'm done for the 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:17.080 year vibe. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.480 And you know, he's an. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:24.280 Athlete and he's a competitive person. Doesn't mean he's potentially wrong, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.720 but he's he's absolutely operating like it's not a big 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.760 deal and I'll be back in mid March, which was 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.120 the timeline that everyone's fulling out there right now. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.160 And I think for the Warriors too. If you're going 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.639 off of what you're saying which is like, let's just 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.679 get to the postseason with everybody healthy. Let's just load manage. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.959 Like we got the number two seed and we know 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.720 like the Suns aren't going to make any headway. They're 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.240 having issues of their own. The only team we really 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.639 need to worry about right now is Memphis in the West, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.120 and like, if we can just get to the playoffs 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.280 sort of completely full strength, That's why I I was like, 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.560 they're holding andre Iguidala out as well. It's kind of 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.720 like we're gonna get our old guys. They're all on ice. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.199 They're in the cryogenic chamber until maybe not even in 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.600 the first round, depending on who we actually play. Uh 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.959 and maybe like a slow ramp up period, but with 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.160 load management. Is that kind of how it feels like to. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.959 You, Yeah, if you told me that the Warriors are 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.680 playing in NBA for some reason, an NBA Finals game 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.040 next Friday, I can ninety nine percent guarantee you Graymon's 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.440 out there, andre Gi Dollars out there, I mean Clay 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.879 obviously and steps out there. Like it feels like to me, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.800 that's exactly what they're doing. But it doesn't mean that 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.280 these issues aren't still issues, Like they can't freaking score 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.680 in crunch time. That is the number one issue for 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.320 the team. They can defend, they still got staff, they've 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.800