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Speaker 1: On this episode of the Heat Check, we've got the
Speaker 1: light Year boys talking about what's happening with Golden State.
Speaker 1: They just blew a lead to the Mavericks. Draymond's nowhere
Speaker 1: in sight. He's on his podcast. He's grinning from ear
Speaker 1: to ear with the TNT guys, and yet he's not
Speaker 1: on the court. All right, Brock, let's drop.
Speaker 3: That big Sunday perfect.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get this pop in, man, let's get
Speaker 1: this vibe going. Co host of the light Years podcast,
Speaker 1: Andy Lou Sam Aspindiari, we're talking a little Warriors on
Speaker 1: a Monday night. Pot will probably come out on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: because I'm not going to make my guy Brock not
Speaker 1: only sit here with his laptop open, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be a she devil and make him edit this
Speaker 1: thing and put it on the podcast. So, if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, it's happening on a Tuesday. On a Tuesday,
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? What is going on? How
Speaker 1: do you end up losing a twenty point twenty over
Speaker 1: twenty point fourth quarterly to the MAVs. They're over here.
Speaker 1: You got Spencer Dinwoodie giving you the business.
Speaker 3: First off, Andy's Warriors lost the twenty point My Warriors
Speaker 3: were on the injured list.
Speaker 2: It's it's been downhill actually since since my victory lap
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season for the Warriors. If
Speaker 2: you if you're checked in on the last thirty games
Speaker 2: of the Warriors, they've actually been more of a seven
Speaker 2: seed than they've been a two seed. Right that they
Speaker 2: are right now. They've actually still got the second Bessett
Speaker 2: record in the NBA. Didn't feel like it. King Johnson
Speaker 2: and I went for fifty two. We've got steps still
Speaker 2: stuck it around thirty five thirty seven percent from three.
Speaker 2: So it's been a it's been a weird few months
Speaker 2: actually the Warriors. You talk about slumping, it's it's this
Speaker 2: is not a this is not a what is it? Sam?
Speaker 2: This is not like a blip anymore. If he was
Speaker 2: like a trend almost with these guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, well, I'm fifty to fifty on it
Speaker 3: because on the one hand, they're missing, you know, like
Speaker 3: Sunday they had no Draymond Green, no Klay Thompson. In theory,
Speaker 3: you should lose that game. On the other hand, when
Speaker 3: you're up twenty with at the end of the third quarter,
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter who you have, like you should
Speaker 3: be able to just coast that one to a victory.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of like the dichotomy of the Warrior season.
Speaker 3: It's like we can tell ourselves, like when Draymond comes back,
Speaker 3: when they figure it all out, like I like the
Speaker 3: way the roster looks. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 3: you know James Wiseman is ramping it up and they
Speaker 3: plan to insert him, and I don't know what that
Speaker 3: means random wise.
Speaker 1: Can I just say this, I have some I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of intel in this business. I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of intel. I don't because I'm I
Speaker 1: don't go to games anymore post pandemic. I don't talk
Speaker 1: to anyone really, I'm just basically I'm not Nope, I'm
Speaker 1: not woj I'm stuck into a studio mostly like for
Speaker 1: pretty much all of my life. But here and there
Speaker 1: I get some sprinklings. I do not think James Wiseman
Speaker 1: is coming back to c I don't think so. And
Speaker 1: and that's not just my own imagination. I think that's
Speaker 1: that there's there's whispers, but I mean, who knows. I
Speaker 1: think that the optimism of him playing given how little
Speaker 1: time is left in the season. What what you would
Speaker 1: need twenty games left in the season, get them ramped up,
Speaker 1: and then what you do the same hashtag the ramp
Speaker 1: up that's been happening all year long was set back
Speaker 1: with your setback, right, and then you've got like kaminga
Speaker 1: who's getting starter minutes as well. I just find it
Speaker 1: to be very not concerned. Concern is not the right word.
Speaker 1: I would say puzzling that there are teams that believe
Speaker 1: that they can develop guys. At the same time, there's.
Speaker 2: Only one team that believe that there.
Speaker 3: Is These are not the These are not the actions
Speaker 3: of a team that are all in on winning the
Speaker 3: title right twenty twenty two. So, like, I'm with you,
Speaker 3: and like, even if we take a step back, if
Speaker 3: Wiseman comes back, he hasn't played basketball in the year,
Speaker 3: and it's not like we're talking about a ten year
Speaker 3: veteran here.
Speaker 2: And he's Clay coming back from the ACL Yeah, well
Speaker 2: he's Clay coming back.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be ready to guard Nikola jokicch
Speaker 2: in eight games. Well, the sick part is that they
Speaker 2: actually kind of need him. That's really the sick part.
Speaker 2: I don't mind that he's not ready to play. You
Speaker 2: kind of can't blame the kid who could be ready.
Speaker 2: But the really disgusting part is be Elites is terrible.
Speaker 2: They didn't pick up a big in the trade market,
Speaker 2: and they're not going to pick up a big in
Speaker 2: the buyout deadline that's coming up here. I think I
Speaker 2: think it might have been today or tomorrow, so that
Speaker 2: they're not picking anyone up.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan guys, Actually.
Speaker 3: I'd rather ride with Bell, but point stance.
Speaker 2: I just actually that crossed my mind. What if they
Speaker 2: do get dere What if they that would be pretty nasty.
Speaker 1: What what do you think happened? Like why didn't they
Speaker 1: go out and get a big because you know, you
Speaker 1: look like Rashaun Holmes was out there possible, like definitely gettable.
Speaker 1: Sacramento doesn't feel like he works in the system. With
Speaker 1: the trays that they've made, you've obviously the big fish.
Speaker 1: To try to go out and figure out probably not
Speaker 1: going to be possible at the trade deadline for a
Speaker 1: Christian Wood type, but there are guys that you could
Speaker 1: certainly try to maybe like even a Jalen Smith from Phoenix,
Speaker 1: like he ended up getting moved as well, Like do
Speaker 1: you think that there's some regret that they didn't try
Speaker 1: to do more with the center position given like the
Speaker 1: herniated disc or bulging disc for Draymond and kind of
Speaker 1: how Cavon has there's not a lot of debt there either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like where do we go with
Speaker 3: this one? It if I was to describe the Warriors,
Speaker 3: it's think of the most stereotypical Silicon Valley tech company possible,
Speaker 3: and that's their decision making. It's like they're more concerned
Speaker 3: with selling low on. It doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker 3: Wiseman future pick doesn't matter, like then acknowledging like okay,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe in a year and a half will be
Speaker 3: better than this, and you know it might look bad,
Speaker 3: but this is gonna give us a better shot to
Speaker 3: win a title. And let's let's be this is a
Speaker 3: pretty wide open year. Like do you do you think
Speaker 3: anyone is like an out and out favorite this year?
Speaker 3: Like I think Milwaukee and Philly look good, but like
Speaker 3: it's not the you know, it's not the nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: six Bowls. You know, it's not that sort of situation.
Speaker 2: So the Warriors will will I think they yeah, they
Speaker 2: want to act like they're the smartest team in the
Speaker 2: NBA and this is the way to do it. And
Speaker 2: they've got guys that that aren't gonna push them, like
Speaker 2: Stephan Draymond aren't really like, oh, let's let's figure out
Speaker 2: how to get Miles Turner, which is actually I think
Speaker 2: the other name that was That was interesting if you're
Speaker 2: talking about it, guys like that like that, that's a
Speaker 2: guy that they could have looked into. But end of
Speaker 2: the day, they're saying, hey, we're gonna we're gonna rely
Speaker 2: on Draymond. He's gonna be the starting center when things
Speaker 2: when things are you know, eight minutes left in crunch time. Right,
Speaker 2: last night Draymond plays, they win. Last night Clay plays,
Speaker 2: they win, or two nights go now. So that's what
Speaker 2: they're relying on. They're saying, Hey, we're gonna be We're
Speaker 2: gonna be like the Spurs of a few years back. Right,
Speaker 2: let's just get to the posts and we're gonna win
Speaker 2: fifty five games. But as long as we get those
Speaker 2: three guys healthy, I would say that they're as good
Speaker 2: as a chance to win anyone to win a championship
Speaker 2: if those guys are healthy, or just.
Speaker 3: Like the Spurs, where it's like, you know what, we're
Speaker 3: gonna stick to our plan. It might not hit the
Speaker 3: highest of highs, but we're also never gonna have you know,
Speaker 3: like whatever the hell's going with the Lakers this year
Speaker 3: with like we're going to trade it all for oops,
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, that type of thing, Like it's ride like
Speaker 3: the consistent, like we're going to trust that this is
Speaker 3: going to turn into some sort of twenty fourteen perfect
Speaker 3: Apex Spurs thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the thing that is very obvious
Speaker 1: and evident is that there is no shot that Joe
Speaker 1: lacob is mortgaging his future for one, one possible title
Speaker 1: right now, like I just or the next year for
Speaker 1: a two year window. There's just absolutely no possibility given
Speaker 1: the amount of rings that this team already has and
Speaker 1: the amount of finals that they went to. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not settling for just putting all the chips in
Speaker 1: and saying all right, we're gonna essentially just try to
Speaker 1: get to get one more ring. That incremental the diminishing
Speaker 1: returns that like Big Brain Silicon Valley economists in them. Right,
Speaker 1: there's just no that there's a pain point because in
Speaker 1: a year from now, say you even win the ring,
Speaker 1: you've got the parade, and it's like what's next.
Speaker 3: There's now now we have now have a very expensive
Speaker 3: Miles Turner and like thirty six year olds all around exactly.
Speaker 2: There is Joe Lacob wants to win when Steph retires,
Speaker 2: like he is thinking of I mean, of course he does,
Speaker 2: but he's thinking of like, hey, we're not we're not
Speaker 2: doing the Lebron thing where Lebron leeds every team that
Speaker 2: he's ever been on and they're just too ship. Once
Speaker 2: he's once the Lake, once Lebron's done with the Lakers,
Speaker 2: you know this year or next year, whenever they're done
Speaker 2: for four seasons, right lakeup does not want that to happen.
Speaker 2: Whether that's about to get the Maroon five.
Speaker 3: Guy to just post himself in every Jersey possible. Man,
Speaker 3: is that like too deep.
Speaker 2: Of the No, that's good. It's a good one, good
Speaker 2: looking guy really really really went downhill though their music.
Speaker 2: But anyway, there there, that's where he doesn't want to be.
Speaker 2: Joe Lacob wants to say, I have Wiseman comingham Pool.
Speaker 2: I could win without Steph. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: who knows if that'll work out, but that's what he wants.
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about this the other day, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think in the history of sports, outside of
Speaker 1: like Joe Montana, Steve Young and Aaron and Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Brett Favre, that you can't, yeah, that you can basically say,
Speaker 1: all right, well, there's gonna be no gap between one
Speaker 1: dynasty and another that whole like we're gonna cross over
Speaker 1: and have no like, no window of trashness. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even call that mediocrity. I would say like a rebuild.
Speaker 1: It seems it seems like they believe that that's possible,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's proven itself to ever
Speaker 1: be possible in sports outside of a couple anomalies.
Speaker 3: This is peak Silicon Valley. Winning isn't enough. They have
Speaker 3: to like brain and break the whole cycle, you know,
Speaker 3: Like we were saying, most owners would be like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, we're one of the three best teams
Speaker 3: here in this move yep, gives us the title. Let's
Speaker 3: go for it and we'll deal with twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: when we get there, right, but not the Warriors. We're
Speaker 3: we're trying to intellectually beat the world, beat history.
Speaker 2: Actually it's what they're trying to do, which is crazy
Speaker 2: because all this comes down to how good Steph Curry is.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's already shown to be one of the
Speaker 2: greatest players of all time. But if you want to
Speaker 2: bridge the gap between now and then, you're basically asking
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, who's now thirty three years old, to be
Speaker 2: great for another three seasons because Kaminga's not going to
Speaker 2: be a superstar. Sam and I are high on him,
Speaker 2: but he's not gonna be a superstar for another three seasons.
Speaker 2: Wiseman if everything breaks right, yeah, wise man, even you
Speaker 2: know who knows? Right, So you're basically asking Steph to say,
Speaker 2: be great for three more years, win one title, and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get these guys like that. That's what
Speaker 2: it always comes down to. Like it says nothing to
Speaker 2: do with how smart you'll like up is it Just
Speaker 2: it's it's how good Steph train, wont and play. It's
Speaker 2: what it always comes down to.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like I don't know and I
Speaker 1: know that a big and a duo. It's that new
Speaker 1: real immersions right that that James Harden and be that
Speaker 1: two man game. There's like that's starting to become the
Speaker 1: shiny new toy again and versus just guard play leading
Speaker 1: the way. But if you wanted, I guess a crossover
Speaker 1: or you wanted like a like to have that carry on,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. And We've talked about this a million times,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be labor it. If you were
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you would have taken LaMelo because that
Speaker 1: would bridge the gap much easier than topic. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like so old entire, but that's what you would have
Speaker 1: done if you really wanted to bridge the gap.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the other part because they're they're they
Speaker 3: talk out of both sides of their mouths where they're like,
Speaker 3: we're trying to bridge the future, but he's a better fit.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, can you just be honest and be
Speaker 3: like you kind of misscouted the situation, like you would
Speaker 3: have took LaMelo if you knew who's this good? But
Speaker 3: you didn't. You're a little timid. You kind of you
Speaker 3: watched them, You're like.
Speaker 4: I don't know, they can barely handle Jordan Pooley let's
Speaker 4: talk about like Jordan Poole right now, and LaMelo is
Speaker 4: ten times better and and also they didn't draft him
Speaker 4: because they felt like LaMelo was gonna be hard to coach.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, And Jordan Poole right now, he didn't
Speaker 2: play last night. He played nineteen minutes last night. Guys
Speaker 2: like guys like Jta.
Speaker 3: He's been having a hard time with Clay Killer and
Speaker 3: his role being a context push pushed back, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they feel like, no, they feel like he's
Speaker 2: kind of a diva. And I think that's kind of
Speaker 2: how they probably felt about LaMelo ball and why didn't
Speaker 2: draft him? Uh and right now they like, let's be honest,
Speaker 2: they need Jordan Poole to win playoff games. And right now,
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole right now is not gonna win him anything.
Speaker 2: The're gonna they're gonna lose games with him out there.
Speaker 2: He is he looks lost after starting like a he
Speaker 2: was a twenty million dollar pointer to start the year.
Speaker 2: Right now he's he's I don't know, he's mid level.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you get him back to
Speaker 1: being locked in? Because it feels like, you know who's
Speaker 1: responsible for that is that like a Clay, you know,
Speaker 1: take them by the shoulder and mentor him and like
Speaker 1: take them on your boat and like take some Instagram
Speaker 1: videos or like how do you get him to that place?
Speaker 1: Because it seems like, you know, there's a big ego
Speaker 1: shot when Clay's been out for two seasons and your
Speaker 1: responsibility has gone up and all of a sudden, that's
Speaker 1: been snatched away from you from someone who's you know,
Speaker 1: very clearly deserves it. But still it's it's hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you can figure
Speaker 3: that out, you should have secrets job. So it's kind
Speaker 3: of that's the other that's the other part of win
Speaker 3: while developing for the future. That's tough. Jordan Poole does
Speaker 3: not have generational wealth. He's not Klay Thompson signing like
Speaker 3: a two hundred dollars deal for eternity, and he also
Speaker 3: hasn't won three championships like Clay Steph. Those guys like
Speaker 3: they're they're made men in NBA history and they're playing
Speaker 3: for legacy and you know a bunch of stuff, and like,
Speaker 3: obviously you don't get to that point without being hyper competitive.
Speaker 3: Jordan Poole was the twenty eighth pick. And he's trying
Speaker 3: to get that next contract and kind of figure out
Speaker 3: who he is in this league. And that's kind of
Speaker 3: the hard part about the whole like two timeline thing,
Speaker 3: because I don't think Clayer Steph care about their stats
Speaker 3: like they're they know they're going to Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: They know, like the difference between them averaging like twenty
Speaker 3: four and twenty one points doesn't matter. Jordan Poole is
Speaker 3: at that stage of his career where it's like, no,
Speaker 3: actually those two points per game or the difference between
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars on my contract or something like that,
Speaker 3: and that's that's.
Speaker 2: How you feel, right, and you're right. Maybe maybe it isn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe it isn't, but like until it's signed, it in
Speaker 3: the bank account, right, I mean, Andy, I get I
Speaker 3: get stressed over far smaller things.
Speaker 2: So, I mean dollars is the rumor that he was
Speaker 2: gonna get this season? Right, and he's twenty two years old,
Speaker 2: you can understand it's not like he's the most mature person,
Speaker 2: because shit, I mean I remember me at twenty two.
Speaker 2: If you putting twenty million dollars in front of my face,
Speaker 2: I would have done some weird stuff. And I mean
Speaker 2: and this and this right now, I'm sure Jordan Poole
Speaker 2: is not this is all off the right Yeah, take this,
Speaker 2: take this up. Yeah, Like, I'm sure he's not happy, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: who would be happy about this? At the same time,
Speaker 2: I guess the solution for me just let him play,
Speaker 2: like cut it out with the tough love stuff like
Speaker 2: you are not Steve Kerr is not you're not a
Speaker 2: college coaches the NBA.
Speaker 1: Like, so, what's the deal with that? He's basically like saying,
Speaker 1: if your attitude is not right, I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: play you, or what's the deal.
Speaker 3: That I mean, Like, I don't know how, I don't
Speaker 3: know how you read it like a last night it's
Speaker 3: a perfect example. Okay, Klay Thompson's not playing, Jerymond Green's
Speaker 3: obviously not playing. They start Moses Moody and GP.
Speaker 1: Two, like against the Mavericks.
Speaker 3: It's when you start those two that's like, we're doing
Speaker 3: everything in our power to make sure Jordan Poole does
Speaker 3: not start, especially and then.
Speaker 2: What do you say, nineteen minutes ninettes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he kind of was slow off the bench,
Speaker 3: and it just you watched when.
Speaker 2: He was in there too.
Speaker 3: I would tell he was a little like, Yeah, pouting
Speaker 3: is a great way to put it. It seems like
Speaker 3: it was. It wasn't about like we think you're, you know,
Speaker 3: sloppy handling the ball. It felt very much like an
Speaker 3: interpersonal thing.
Speaker 1: So yikes, yikes, Mike, Yeah, I mean that's definitely like
Speaker 1: something that people aren't talking about. Is the is the
Speaker 1: like shifts in culture with guys coming in and out
Speaker 1: of the lineup in that new guard versus old guard
Speaker 1: and trying to bridge the gap and like Kaminga getting
Speaker 1: a lot of minutes when very clearly he's helping you
Speaker 1: lose games right now even though he's a highlight machine.
Speaker 1: My question though, is like Raymond has just been out
Speaker 1: for way too long.
Speaker 2: Draymond is also way too happy for someone that's been
Speaker 2: out for way too long, and it is very weird.
Speaker 2: Either he's cool being an inside the NBA TNT analyst
Speaker 2: with with our guy Shaq and and Chuck, or he's
Speaker 2: back next week right Friend of the Show, Charles, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can make a lot of like was he twenty
Speaker 2: five million right now? I'm sure he gets, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot doing it, Like I just it's hard, Sam
Speaker 2: and I are very confused because for someone that is
Speaker 2: supposedly out for another month, he's a pretty cheery guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's the tone.
Speaker 3: I have a very hard time think he's not coming
Speaker 3: back like he just he sounds like he's not concerned
Speaker 3: about it. Like we can we can compare it. Remember
Speaker 3: when Kevin Durant was hurt in twenty nineteen during the playoffs,
Speaker 3: be a silence.
Speaker 1: They literally walled us off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly that sort of thing, or like you know,
Speaker 3: even James Soisa with the Warriors, waldof all that s Meanwhile, Draymond,
Speaker 3: like media sessions are like give me the microphone, I'm
Speaker 3: about to do stand up comedy and tell you about
Speaker 3: how much I'm going to dominate when I'm back. Like
Speaker 3: he he doesn't have that like I'm done for the
Speaker 3: year vibe.
Speaker 2: And you know, he's an.
Speaker 3: Athlete and he's a competitive person. Doesn't mean he's potentially wrong,
Speaker 3: but he's he's absolutely operating like it's not a big
Speaker 3: deal and I'll be back in mid March, which was
Speaker 3: the timeline that everyone's fulling out there right now.
Speaker 1: And I think for the Warriors too. If you're going
Speaker 1: off of what you're saying which is like, let's just
Speaker 1: get to the postseason with everybody healthy. Let's just load manage.
Speaker 1: Like we got the number two seed and we know
Speaker 1: like the Suns aren't going to make any headway. They're
Speaker 1: having issues of their own. The only team we really
Speaker 1: need to worry about right now is Memphis in the West,
Speaker 1: and like, if we can just get to the playoffs
Speaker 1: sort of completely full strength, That's why I I was like,
Speaker 1: they're holding andre Iguidala out as well. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get our old guys. They're all on ice.
Speaker 1: They're in the cryogenic chamber until maybe not even in
Speaker 1: the first round, depending on who we actually play. Uh
Speaker 1: and maybe like a slow ramp up period, but with
Speaker 1: load management. Is that kind of how it feels like to.
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, if you told me that the Warriors are
Speaker 2: playing in NBA for some reason, an NBA Finals game
Speaker 2: next Friday, I can ninety nine percent guarantee you Graymon's
Speaker 2: out there, andre Gi Dollars out there, I mean Clay
Speaker 2: obviously and steps out there. Like it feels like to me,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they're doing. But it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: these issues aren't still issues, Like they can't freaking score
Speaker 2: in crunch time. That is the number one issue for
Speaker 2: the team. They can defend, they still got staff, they've
Speaker 2: got Clay right, but they cannot score on crunch time.
Speaker 2: They just teams will throw three at Steph and they've
Speaker 2: got no one. Andrew Wiggins is is.
Speaker 3: Draymond going into dribble handoff with someone who's trying to
Speaker 3: go into another dribble hand off.
Speaker 2: Dudes thrown each other the fucking ball with no nothing
Speaker 2: being done. It's just I think that's going to be
Speaker 2: an issue regardless of whether guys come back or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I was gonna say too, is
Speaker 1: it's like you now have Stephan what is very clearly
Speaker 1: a shooting slump seventeen straight games of like, what is
Speaker 1: he shooting thirty five percent from three worst of his numbers?
Speaker 3: Two numbers even matter anymore?
Speaker 1: I mean for Steph. No, I mean when you see
Speaker 1: him do what he did in the All Star Game,
Speaker 1: it shows you that he can turn it on. Obviously
Speaker 1: that kind of feels mental though to me to a degree,
Speaker 1: Like I saw your tweet Sam where it was like
Speaker 1: Warriors fans are seeing this being like, oh, is Steph
Speaker 1: now going to be on a heater for the rest
Speaker 1: of this season, because this is the moment where it's
Speaker 1: like you've woken up and been like, oh, I actually
Speaker 1: can get out of this mental fog. But then now
Speaker 1: he goes back to very competitive play and it's still
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, I mean, so he still obviously shoot
Speaker 3: the ball, but it's like, yeah, it's it's like, do
Speaker 3: you think he's worn down? Do you think it's finally
Speaker 3: teams catching up, because like they do play some pretty
Speaker 3: disgusting lineup combinations around him, like a lot of like yeah, yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: we're gonna throw three guys at you and dare Moses
Speaker 3: Moody to hit four threes, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Go for it, mo.
Speaker 3: You know that's where thing.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: You know, just a random variance and like that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, Like I don't know, but it's it's weird
Speaker 3: because I've never seen him have this prolonged slump, Like
Speaker 3: usually his slumps are two weeks. We all kind of
Speaker 3: concerned troll like, oh my god, what Steph. He's shot
Speaker 3: thirty eight percent for four games in a row, and
Speaker 3: then next thing he knows, he goes like on a heater, right,
Speaker 3: you know, like that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: He reads every tweet about him sucking from three years.
Speaker 3: He is a half time he is a halftime tweet reader.
Speaker 2: We know that for a fact. But look, I think
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I think he's gonna be hundred
Speaker 2: forty percent for the first time in his career. He's
Speaker 2: thirty thirty seven and a half, right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, I don't know like it is,
Speaker 2: it is, it is a problem.
Speaker 3: Relax, Relax, like no, you know, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I want to trade him. I don't know. I you know,
Speaker 2: they have more pressing concerns. But last night he had
Speaker 2: two open threes at the end of the game. He
Speaker 2: missed both, So I missed it. I just you know,
Speaker 2: I can't get too mad at someone like Gary Payton
Speaker 2: missing shots or Damien Lee missing shots, because those guys
Speaker 2: are Gary Payton and Damien Lee. You know STEP's missing
Speaker 2: open shots down in the fourth quarter. That's you know,
Speaker 2: we don't see that very often. It would be interesting
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: I thought, that's what he saves for the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think you could. You know, he does play.
Speaker 3: Well in the Relax relax.
Speaker 2: She could wait to throw that way. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I what's I always think if he had last season
Speaker 2: Steph he shot like that this season, it'd be interesting
Speaker 2: to see what the Warriors record would be. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe he just needs Draymond back. Just something
Speaker 2: about the passes Draymond throws to him.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that just comfortable as they as the kids say,
Speaker 1: comfortability with the line, just getting guys. I mean, Clay
Speaker 1: obviously is going to be a great safety valve when
Speaker 1: when teams blitz Steph in the playoffs, something that he
Speaker 1: hasn't had in a couple of years. Like so, I
Speaker 1: guess what what's the temperature right now? Where where are
Speaker 1: you guys at? It seems like you guys are cautiously
Speaker 1: right down the middle.
Speaker 3: Like room temperature. I'm not particularly concerned, like.
Speaker 2: Like Palo Alto weather saying right now, like room temp
Speaker 2: is that that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I'm thinking more of water to be frank. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you turn the water a little warm because
Speaker 3: you want to. I don't know, lazy exactly. It's not
Speaker 3: quite not quite bathroom. Maybe maybe I like my bath's
Speaker 3: warmer than me, but it's it's like, yes, it is
Speaker 3: bathtub weather where I'm just like, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go with it. I'm not in love with everything that's
Speaker 3: going on, but until someone tells me that they are
Speaker 3: injured or something weird is happening, I'm gonna side off.
Speaker 2: You know, we will see the rest of the NBA
Speaker 2: is just not It's they're just not. It's no nobody
Speaker 2: scary out there. That's that's really the big thing for me.
Speaker 2: Is you got Trump and dude, yeah, the Nets who knows, right,
Speaker 2: We've been saying that for three years. Now You've got
Speaker 2: You've got the Bucks too, are struggling.
Speaker 3: They're gonna lift. They're gonna lift a mandate, Joe said,
Speaker 3: I'm sure Kyrie will find a new reason to.
Speaker 1: Management. No vaccination.
Speaker 2: Sixers might be the team right now. If you have
Speaker 2: to pick a team, the Sixers with James Harden might
Speaker 2: be the team right now. That's the best team in
Speaker 2: the NBA winning championship.
Speaker 1: Is that not the craziest shit you've ever seen? Where
Speaker 1: James Harden consistently looks fat and slow and unathletic, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he gets traded In the
Speaker 1: first game he plays, he looks like an MVP. It's
Speaker 1: something that is a skill to be able to look
Speaker 1: as bad as he did and to brick shots that
Speaker 1: he hits with Eve to then hit these like contested
Speaker 1: step back threes from thirty feet playing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's just maybe one of the more remarkable impressive swings
Speaker 1: in skill.
Speaker 2: We've done it several times. Yeah, it's like not his first.
Speaker 3: Rodeo, seven or eight times.
Speaker 2: He's just a serial. Like I was going to do
Speaker 2: a dating comparison, but I don't even think I could
Speaker 2: do it because he's just just bouncing back.
Speaker 1: You know who James Harden is. James Harden is west
Speaker 1: Elm Caleb.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if.
Speaker 4: What look up.
Speaker 1: West Elm Caleb. He was the guy who matched with
Speaker 1: a bunch of girls in New York City. It went
Speaker 1: super viral on TikTok. I'm surprised you don't know who
Speaker 1: he is. And then he like has a bunch of
Speaker 1: dates and goes on maybe one date, doesn't sleep with them,
Speaker 1: sends them like a dick pic, and then ghosts them
Speaker 1: and then and then does it again and again and
Speaker 1: again like all of Manhattan had had run No And
Speaker 1: then for him to say, oh, I'm actually one of
Speaker 1: the best teammates in the NBA was just it was shameless.
Speaker 2: Shameless. NBA superstars are shameless, all of them.
Speaker 1: They are. I'm gonna take you the Strip club, give
Speaker 1: you a rollie, and that makes me a really good teammate.
Speaker 3: The the the dick pic off of the first State
Speaker 3: is very much a hard move. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I dropping dropping forty with ten assists. Yeah, letting you
Speaker 3: imagine the possibilities. But but then but it leads to nothing.
Speaker 2: And you like it leads to nothing.
Speaker 1: It literally was like, all I have is this photo
Speaker 1: in my phone. Now I don't even know you, you
Speaker 1: don't even respond you go green bubble, and all I have.
Speaker 1: All I have is this phone of you and your bathtub,
Speaker 1: and I can see you in warm water.
Speaker 2: Luke war in warm water.
Speaker 1: This is what we get for an eleven PM Eastern podcast.
Speaker 1: I guess, all right, so Warriors go to the finals?
Speaker 1: Yes or no?
Speaker 2: I go first, I think yes, I think yes. I
Speaker 2: think the Warriors. The Western Conference is not very good.
Speaker 2: I don't love the Suns, and Memphis is a year
Speaker 2: or two away. Memphis reminds me of the Warriors back
Speaker 2: when the Warriors were coming up, the team that lost
Speaker 2: to this Bros. In the second round.
Speaker 3: So I think yes, compound question because I think there's
Speaker 3: a really good chance that they go to the finals.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna get the shit kicked out of
Speaker 3: them by the Grizzlies or sorry, the Bus six, or
Speaker 3: one of like the Eastern Conference teams.
Speaker 2: But I do think.
Speaker 3: They have a very realistic chance to make it through
Speaker 3: the West.
Speaker 1: If they get beat by a Western Conference team, who
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 3: I will give you the same answer.
Speaker 2: I think it's the Grizzlies, though, Sam, I think it's
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. I think it's the Grizzlies. I think they
Speaker 2: beat the Suns. I think they're a good matchup for
Speaker 2: the Suns. I think they understand what Chris Paul is
Speaker 2: going to do. He's not that much of a problem.
Speaker 2: You know who's a problem, Jean Moran and that team
Speaker 2: that can run up and down and play small ball
Speaker 2: with them. I think if they lose, they lose to Memphis.
Speaker 2: If they get to the Western Conference finals, I think
Speaker 2: they beat the Suns.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna give a I'm gonna give a
Speaker 3: dark horse answer the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Stop you are Mexic. Kleiba is gonna kick about Mexically.
Speaker 1: But what Spencer Dinwitty Game Winner Series Ender, Spencer Dinwitty n.
Speaker 3: F T n F It was, well, you know I'm pivoting,
Speaker 3: so you know I'm going full crypto. You gotta go
Speaker 3: with the crypto god.
Speaker 1: Crypto god, and like he'll do it.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have like he's gonna have an n F
Speaker 3: T step back. It's gotta be the move.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 3: Obviously I'm with Andy. I think Memphis is the more
Speaker 3: likely one. But like if you're asking me to pick
Speaker 3: a dark horse, I'm not ruling out Dallas and Denver.
Speaker 3: We're I I just want to make it clear it
Speaker 3: won't be Phoenix's.
Speaker 1: And you should definitely keep your eye on Java McGee
Speaker 1: because he's gonna look to get some money. I bet
Speaker 1: he wants to come back, and he's the number one
Speaker 1: role man right now in the n b A. You
Speaker 1: could use him. That was a mistake. That was a miscalculation.
Speaker 3: Like the war has ever run a.
Speaker 1: Tipping bath water? Here on the heat check, it's the
Speaker 1: bathtub check here at eleven PM on a Monday. Thank
Speaker 1: you boys for joining me. We will definitely check back
Speaker 1: in now. I know that this is the time that
Speaker 1: you guys can come on. It's just late night vibes.
Speaker 1: It's just late night vibes.
Speaker 3: It's for the better.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I like I like you this way. It's like a
Speaker 1: little it's like a little slurry and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it's just tiredness or if it's a cocktail. But
Speaker 1: I really don't care which I want you. I don't care,
Speaker 1: kukah whatever, whatever you're up to, I love it. Thanks, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We're not judging. We're not judging. Thanks boys,