WEBVTT - The Ultra Biased She Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you've run the numbers here, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent chance it turns out really well and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a secular country kind of emerges. I think twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five percent it shuts down pretty quickly as Jihatas takeover.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe a fifty percent chance it looks like Libya, which

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<v Speaker 3>is an ongoing state of conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, seeing how people the happy, those people were in

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<v Speaker 2>Syria over the weekend, bringing down those statues, dancing in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets, children, old people, people crying as they saw

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones who were released from the prisons that they

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen in decades. But you know, if you're old

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<v Speaker 2>enough to have lived through the Arab Spring, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how a lot of these turned out unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So an enormous couple of days for the people

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<v Speaker 4>of Syria with the uncertain future ahead. Also, the fall

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<v Speaker 4>of the Asad regime has sent shockwaves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cliche.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have avoided it throughout the region, and geopolitically

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<v Speaker 4>is it's exposed Russian Iran is much much weaker than

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<v Speaker 4>they've been formerly.

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<v Speaker 2>Where does it all go?

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps we'll we'll discuss that with Mike Lyons, military analyst

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<v Speaker 4>who joins us from now. Mike, I realized predictions are

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<v Speaker 4>extremely difficult in that part of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a big one, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? For sure? That was Admiral Sterheti's I take it

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<v Speaker 5>from his voice. Yep, yeah, right, So you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 5>percent turns into living interesting analysis. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 5>a higher probability that things go south very quickly. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just human nature of what we've seen in history

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<v Speaker 5>in that part of the world. But there is opportunity,

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<v Speaker 5>no question. The main thing is what are these external

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<v Speaker 5>countries like Turkey going to do to get involved. I

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<v Speaker 5>see the United States and Israel already going after military targets,

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<v Speaker 5>taking away capability, military capability of this new group, this

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<v Speaker 5>HTS group that seems to have taken control of the

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<v Speaker 5>country right now, getting rid of their AMO dumps and

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<v Speaker 5>keeping them from waging more conflicts. But what Turkey you

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<v Speaker 5>would like to do is create this state of Kurdistan.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know think of Syria becoming let's say, Balkanized

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<v Speaker 5>and kind of chopped up to a big piece of land,

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of desert areas. So the cities are

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<v Speaker 5>the built ups there. But what Turkey you would like

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<v Speaker 5>to do is find a home for thirty million people

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<v Speaker 5>that are indigenous to that part of the world and

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<v Speaker 5>call it a homeland. Now, the problem Theyria has as

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<v Speaker 5>a country. It doesn't have a lot of natural resources,

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't export a lot of things. So you have

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<v Speaker 5>a country, you have to have all those things. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>all those things you brought up tremendously important as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Russia is now weigh down the fact that they've lost

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<v Speaker 5>a war and more report in the media. Tranian the

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<v Speaker 5>Uranians can't help either. So we'll just have to see.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm betting things there to go south before they

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<v Speaker 5>get better soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have nine hundred troops there, seventy five air

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<v Speaker 2>strikes yesterday, so we're involved at some level. As reading

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<v Speaker 2>this from the La Times, their headlined in Syria, militias

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<v Speaker 2>armed by the Pentagon are fighting those armed by the CIA.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it's likely a story as we have looked

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<v Speaker 5>to prop up some groups. The problem though, this this

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<v Speaker 5>HTS group. This the main the main rebel organization is

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<v Speaker 5>nothing more than a merger of different al Qaeda facts

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<v Speaker 5>and al Nustra in factor or one of their main

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<v Speaker 5>supporters and so as that was used in some ways

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<v Speaker 5>to fight ISIS, and that and that reason you're still

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<v Speaker 5>at groups that are on the terrorist watch list, which

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<v Speaker 5>is why I know that this administration is looking anywhere

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<v Speaker 5>to get a win. You saw ject Sullivan over the

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<v Speaker 5>week and talking about how well Israel has done because

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<v Speaker 5>of the Biden foreign policy. Well, actually they've done well

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<v Speaker 5>because they've not paid attention to the Biden foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really what's happened there, not anything that this administration did.

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<v Speaker 5>But this administration is looking for some victory as it

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<v Speaker 5>walks out the door as it cheapestly has the door

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<v Speaker 5>kind of shut it behind as it leaves. And if

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<v Speaker 5>they can, if they can try to claim something that

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<v Speaker 5>this will go well, they'll obviously try to take credit

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<v Speaker 5>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, speaking of Israel and Iran, this is a huge

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<v Speaker 4>blow to Iran, It's got to be, and to its proxies.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, has Law, which has already had the hell

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<v Speaker 4>beat out of it by Israel right now lacks a

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<v Speaker 4>direct supply route.

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<v Speaker 2>How significant is this?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, incredible, the fact that exactly that land bridge now

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<v Speaker 5>is torn between Iran and those proxy forces there as

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<v Speaker 5>well inside of a rock. That's why those nine hundred

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<v Speaker 5>troops are there as they kind of they straddle the

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<v Speaker 5>tigers euphrate's value there and try to shut those supply

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<v Speaker 5>lines down on a lot of the attacks that were

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<v Speaker 5>taking place that we took over the weekend were against

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<v Speaker 5>those Militsia forces that the Urine support. So they've lost

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<v Speaker 5>all of their proxy forces in Hasbla, in Hamas and

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<v Speaker 5>then these these small splinter groups that it's now open

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<v Speaker 5>season for US, I'd say at some level, which is

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<v Speaker 5>why I heard eight tens for example, we're striking some

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<v Speaker 5>of their targets there. So again, Irana is very exposed

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<v Speaker 5>right now. They've never been weaker. Russia to me, is

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<v Speaker 5>no longer any kind of superpower whatsoever. And again part

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<v Speaker 5>of the issue is going in destroying that military equipment

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<v Speaker 5>that Russia left behind, because if that falls into the

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<v Speaker 5>wrong hands, I think that the world is going to

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<v Speaker 5>see increase conflict that Israel is looking to show up

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<v Speaker 5>AT's bordering a Golden Heights with Cerea as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So for a lot of our audience, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what percentage, but a chunk of our audience would say

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<v Speaker 2>this we should stay out of it. Did we never

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<v Speaker 2>get a good result. I don't want us involved at all.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's your response to that?

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<v Speaker 5>There's nothing that we can do to influence anyone's side.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see what Turkey does. Let's see what Turkeys respond.

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<v Speaker 5>Is going to be as there in the region. Let

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<v Speaker 5>them do a lot of this dirty work. It does

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<v Speaker 5>not make any sense to even send treasure there to

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<v Speaker 5>pick one side or the other. The only thing we

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<v Speaker 5>should do is continue to support our ally Israel as

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<v Speaker 5>I would not be surprised if this new organization at

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<v Speaker 5>run Syria declares so I'm kind of ge hot against Israel.

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<v Speaker 5>So that'll just be another, you know, another target for

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<v Speaker 5>Israel to take down. That would be that would be

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<v Speaker 5>bad because Israel would eventually accomplish that mission. And this

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<v Speaker 5>that's where this revolution then that just took place there

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<v Speaker 5>would go down with die in the ashes, it would

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<v Speaker 5>ever get off the ground, because again, Israel's Israel's at

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<v Speaker 5>the strongest point right now. But there's literally not a

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<v Speaker 5>single soldier, not a single dollar we should send to

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<v Speaker 5>their way right now at this point, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You can clarify something for me, because I know we'll

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<v Speaker 4>be pressuring Turkey not to go wild on the Kurds,

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<v Speaker 4>who have been you know, reliable US allies. But so

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<v Speaker 4>are you suggesting that because Turkey has always been vehemently

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<v Speaker 4>against some sort of Kurdish homeland. But is it now

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<v Speaker 4>that the Sad regime is gone they can carve it

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<v Speaker 4>out of Syria that now they're in favor of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right there against the homeland because most of

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<v Speaker 5>them sit inside of Turkey proper and they don't want

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<v Speaker 5>that to happen. They sit in rock Syria, Turkey and Iran.

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<v Speaker 5>And so this is similar to what happened in the

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<v Speaker 5>forties when when Israel gets its own homeland set up

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<v Speaker 5>by the you know, kind of a World Council. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what I would not be surprised if Turkey does though

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<v Speaker 5>again that Balkanization. They're gonna they're going to take fury

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<v Speaker 5>of what was once is big land Masks and whack

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<v Speaker 5>it up into four or five different areas and different

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<v Speaker 5>secular groups. The Drus, There's there's a Christian section there

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<v Speaker 5>in Damascus. There's all different areas that you can easily

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<v Speaker 5>do this. But but again you have to create more

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<v Speaker 5>of a republic because it's you know, each of these

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<v Speaker 5>different groups, would we have a have a channel surviving

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<v Speaker 5>on their own. So for example, if if the Curds.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the reasons why the Curds are so successful

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<v Speaker 5>as an indigenous group outside is because they own oil

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<v Speaker 5>rights in the northern part of Iraq. They generate red

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't have a country, you got to have

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<v Speaker 5>a generate revenue. If to the military, all these kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of things, you've got to figure all that out when

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<v Speaker 5>you try to redraw new boundaries. Here the boundaries that

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<v Speaker 5>Syria has created after World War One by colonial powers

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<v Speaker 5>that just thought these were the boundaries that we were

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<v Speaker 5>going to do. Saying with the rocks sands koit same

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<v Speaker 5>with everything that exists there, and now they're falling into

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<v Speaker 5>more of the natural position as to where they are

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<v Speaker 5>based on the tribal people where they lived.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this question is relevant. So I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year book lists and various

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<v Speaker 2>publications because I like reading the best books of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's this book that Steve call wrote I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>read Ghost Wars years ago, but the Achilles Trap Sadam

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<v Speaker 2>lu saying the CI and the origins of America's invasion

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<v Speaker 2>of Iraq, and it's all about how we had four

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<v Speaker 2>different presidents that were pro regime change and all our

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<v Speaker 2>momentum towards Iraq and how we invaded and what did

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<v Speaker 2>we get out of it and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You were there, do you feel like I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like relitigate Ara. I'm just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>is that where your point of view comes from of

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<v Speaker 2>we should stay out of Cerea, that we rarely get

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<v Speaker 2>a good outcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we try to. We try to import democracy into

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<v Speaker 5>places that can't. It won't take it, It won't hold

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<v Speaker 5>there on any level. I mean, it's just not going

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<v Speaker 5>to work. What we should try is create the environment

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<v Speaker 5>where we import capitalism. I think that's what's failed in

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<v Speaker 5>a rock in the last twenty years. We always have

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<v Speaker 5>the government and you know, we have those people with

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<v Speaker 5>the pictures and their purple thumbs, but next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the extremists and the regime start cutting their thumbs off

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<v Speaker 5>because they just they're not into democracy. Is that they

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<v Speaker 5>just don't they don't have that this feeling of self rule. However,

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<v Speaker 5>capitalism and money and wealth is more or less a

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a human condition as well. That's more easily

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<v Speaker 5>transferred to. If you can create the conditions where businesses

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<v Speaker 5>can exist, then then democracy will follow. We've always tried

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<v Speaker 5>to do it in the different other direction. We try

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<v Speaker 5>to implement the democracy first and then capitalism hasn't worked,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why that's why it's failed. I think in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 5>if we could figure out a way to bring capitalism

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<v Speaker 5>there first, bring the businesses first, I think the democracy

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<v Speaker 5>would follow well.

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<v Speaker 4>And Americans in general have a naivete that would be

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<v Speaker 4>charming if it wasn't so dangerous that they imagine either

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<v Speaker 4>everybody around the world thinks like Americans do, or they

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<v Speaker 4>can be persuaded to when you're talking about hundreds of

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<v Speaker 4>year old's religious fundamentalist, fanatical movements, that they're just nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't make me a racist, that makes me a realist, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so much of the world, especially in the

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<v Speaker 5>Middle East as part of the world, where the normal

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<v Speaker 5>civilians go hours without electricity, they can't drink water from

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<v Speaker 5>the faucet. There's so many things we take for granted

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<v Speaker 5>here in our you know, in our country, that they

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<v Speaker 5>don't have, or their basic necessities that the government can't

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<v Speaker 5>provide for. But no, that's right. It's the real politique

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<v Speaker 5>to how we should deal with this, and we should

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<v Speaker 5>get back to containment, get back to the countries that

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<v Speaker 5>we know, our allies in that region, and support them

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<v Speaker 5>and make sure that they don't fall. But let the

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<v Speaker 5>ones in the region take care of it. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 5>if Turkey is successful at carving out a Curtistan, they

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<v Speaker 5>solve a couple of problems. They solve a revolutionary potential

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<v Speaker 5>problem in their country. The Turks are concerned that the

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<v Speaker 5>Kurds will all get together because there's thirty million of them.

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<v Speaker 5>If they all get together to tide to overthrow the

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<v Speaker 5>Turkish government, well that creates a NATO problem then at

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<v Speaker 5>some level. So that's what I think that we should

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<v Speaker 5>the path we should go down.

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<v Speaker 4>Military analyst Mike Lyons, Mike, great to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much for the insight.

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<v Speaker 2>Great guys, thanks for me absolutely so, I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm inconsistent or wise. I don't actually know, but

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, if you listen, I'm big time supporter

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<v Speaker 2>of US being involved in Ukraine, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>very important to the world order, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>directly important to the United States, and the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Austin announced yesterday another one billion dollars in military

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<v Speaker 2>aid for you. I'm all for supporting Ukraine. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not for getting involved in these Middle Eastern countries. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't see what we've gotten out of it over

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, obviously the answer to that is long and complicated

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<v Speaker 4>and probably book length. You know, I'm more than happy

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<v Speaker 4>to engage in that chat if you want. It just

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<v Speaker 4>has to do with our national interest obviously, and which

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<v Speaker 4>seel like we.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the same result whether we get involved or not

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<v Speaker 2>in these countries Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, in the Middle East. Yeah, you could make

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Lines is one hundred percent stay uninvolved in Syria

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump, who's going to be president here soon and

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<v Speaker 2>to some extent he is is also, we have no

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<v Speaker 2>business being there, so that's probably the direction we're going

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<v Speaker 7>A woman has filed a lawsuit against Diddy, accusing him

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<v Speaker 7>of assault and dangling her off a seventeen story balcony,

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<v Speaker 7>which is just incredible grip strength for a guy coated

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<v Speaker 7>in pavi oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, So I really I see that you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>grab any of them, Michael, and I understand why their

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<v Speaker 2>first like four jokes were all about the assassination of

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<v Speaker 2>that United Healthcare CEO in Manhattan, and unfortunately I saw

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<v Speaker 2>blowback against that before I saw the jokes would put

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<v Speaker 2>a thought in my head, I hate that. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think they were particularly out of line him. They're distasteful.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like being the joke police. Ever, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>intent his humor, you know some of it's distasteful, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, if you don't like it, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. But I don't mind jokes about serious things.

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<v Speaker 2>The this stuff the New York Time Times headline. Some

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<v Speaker 2>on social media see suspect and ceo killing as a

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<v Speaker 2>folk hero. You know that's sort of like turning him

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<v Speaker 2>into a folk hero stuff I am bothered by. But

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<v Speaker 2>making jokes about things either you like it. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the same experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I ran into the online condemnation, thought, oh, I had

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<v Speaker 4>to listen to those jokes, and I found them much

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<v Speaker 4>more innocent than they're portrayed.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of yes. On the insurance thing, we got

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few texts that are really interesting about the

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<v Speaker 2>way insurance companies handle bills and people who work in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry and stuff like that. And again, I'm uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with even getting into that because there's a certain bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the killer getting his way. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>when you read a school shooter's manifesto and take his

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<v Speaker 2>argument seriously. Yeah, I get that.

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<v Speaker 4>Ethically, I'm uncomfortable going into it, although there are it's

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<v Speaker 4>beyond denial that we have serious issues with health care

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<v Speaker 4>and insurance and stuff in the country, and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people get hurt and a lot of people are mad.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we shouldn't buy the discussion with the blood of

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<v Speaker 4>this poor son of a gun who's gunned down on

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<v Speaker 4>the pavement, but it is a legitimate discussion. I just

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<v Speaker 4>hate to even imply that therefore it's okay to shoot

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<v Speaker 4>people in cold blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got some text about it. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>them later. This hour.

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<v Speaker 4>Got an email from Jan wanted to know if I

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<v Speaker 4>buy a present for my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have used a real name. Ah, you just

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<v Speaker 2>ruined their Christmas. I hope you're happy you probably Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>probably every Christmas to come, because the pain of this

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<v Speaker 2>day will linger in their memories. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman whose name is definitely not Jan wonder whether

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<v Speaker 4>if she got her husband a present from the Armstrong

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<v Speaker 4>a Giddy store, whether it would get there in time

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<v Speaker 4>for Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but do it today? Oh I need to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had that thought over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>The premium may in ge hoodie flying off the shelves.

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<v Speaker 4>People are loving the cut, the crab t shirt, and

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<v Speaker 4>the hot dogs are dogs as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong getdy dot com? How is it? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>crass commercialism? How do you feel about me buying family

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<v Speaker 2>members Armstrong and Getty stuff? Does that seem it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little odd? Is it's fine? You would you would like it?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a gift to you. You helping me by wearing

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<v Speaker 2>an advertisement that puts more money in my pocket. It's Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>I bought family member stuff. Yeah, they liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, And I don't know if you've seen the books,

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<v Speaker 4>the money actually doesn't go in our pockets. But I remember, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a long story. To listen to the show

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<v Speaker 4>because they see the advertisement. That's what I oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because yeah, that's that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Ah oh, we've just got thirty if I bought

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<v Speaker 2>my parents, I bought you a billboard on I eighty

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<v Speaker 2>in your name for Christmas advertising the radio show. It's well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A warm wearable that taken the say look, this is

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<v Speaker 4>my brother, my son, my whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It says. Shit, I don't know, do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump did an hour plus interview and meet the press

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday kind of got obscured by the news of the

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<v Speaker 2>day with the ultrabiased she Wolf.

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<v Speaker 4>Kristen Welker will have the highlights of that interchange between

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<v Speaker 4>the evil suckubists and the power resident elect coming up

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't want to be breaking up families. So

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<v Speaker 6>the only way you don't break up the family is

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<v Speaker 6>you keep them together, and you have to send them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Back there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump, in response to the inevitable question, you say you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to poor people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to separate families? Always asked from the

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<v Speaker 2>point of view of it being bad, even though he

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<v Speaker 2>ran on that got elected and sixty percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>approve of it. So it just drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever we talk about this, I'm reminded of my youthful

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<v Speaker 4>idea of living in Germany to work and study and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, because I studied German and thought that

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<v Speaker 4>might be interesting, and it became clear that there were

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<v Speaker 4>severe limitations in getting into the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Then staying in there and working was very, very difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>You had to get permits and stuff like that, so

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<v Speaker 4>I and I accepted that. I thought, well, that's unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is what it is, the idea that I

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<v Speaker 4>would go to Germany sneak in and then when they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have authorization to be here, and you certainly

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<v Speaker 4>don't have authorization to work, me saying, how are you

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<v Speaker 4>gonna separate.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my family?

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<v Speaker 4>And what would the Germans say to that, Well, they'd

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<v Speaker 4>say it in German, so you wouldn't understand it, folks.

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<v Speaker 4>But what it would mean essentially is be quiet and

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<v Speaker 4>get back in line.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not our problem. We got a bunch of clips,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought maybe the most important one that should

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten a lot of attention but didn't from Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was when he was asked about do you ran on

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<v Speaker 2>re retribution and he said, I'm really looking to make

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<v Speaker 2>our country successful. I'm not looking to go back into

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<v Speaker 2>the past. I'm looking to make our country successful. Retribution

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<v Speaker 2>will be through success. Okay, there's your hitler for you,

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<v Speaker 2>there's your hitler, there's your thermal.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be another election again, well, and he has made

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<v Speaker 4>that point repeatedly. The retribution is how successful we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That lays it to rest. But it's such a good

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<v Speaker 2>clickbaiting narrative.

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<v Speaker 4>The lion liars in the media and Kristen Welker is

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<v Speaker 4>their unholy princess. They just can't leave that to the

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<v Speaker 4>narrative alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>There are real problems with Trump quld making stuff up right.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I'm told Daniel Penny has been acquitted

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<v Speaker 4>in the death of that homeless lunatic on.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York subway. Wow, so it's over for him,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, bless him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, shame somebody had to die, but enforce the

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<v Speaker 4>law in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you don't want to die, don't go jumping

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<v Speaker 2>on a subway car threat and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>innocent people. That'd be a good way to avoid it.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor Daniel Penny, What a trial he has been through.

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<v Speaker 2>And I shouldn't use that term. What a you're the

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<v Speaker 2>word guy, come up with a word? What a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>period of his complit journey whatever, Yeah, journey is good.

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<v Speaker 2>What a horrible thing to have to go through when

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<v Speaker 2>all you did was you're the one alpha male in

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<v Speaker 2>the room who's willing to try to stop this guy

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<v Speaker 2>from hurting people. Everybody on the train car was thrilled

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<v Speaker 2>that you did something about it, and you came this

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<v Speaker 2>close to go into prison.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah all right, So back to Trump and Welker. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people have enjoyed this clip. It's thirty seven, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>They are discussing January sixth.

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<v Speaker 8>In general, officials say that the order never came in.

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<v Speaker 9>For the national ars on January sixth. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 9>you this about.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe in a statement that he has destroyed evidence.

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<v Speaker 9>Let me ask you this about January sixth.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish you could be a if you you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you have such potential, if you could be just just

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<v Speaker 6>non biased. You hurt yourself so badly. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 6>they deleted and destroyed all the evidence. Everyone knows it,

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<v Speaker 6>and you off like it doesn't mean anything. No, if I.

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<v Speaker 9>Didn't deny it, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>List if I did it, you would be standing up

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<v Speaker 6>in that chairs shouting at me, and you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I do, I'd say, you got me.

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<v Speaker 2>My main takeaway with that is, Okay, you're gonna ask

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<v Speaker 2>him about January sixth again and try to get him

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<v Speaker 2>to admit to something or whatever. Do you I assume,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Walker, you don't like Trump and don't want him

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<v Speaker 2>to have power and be elected. You're helping him. You're

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<v Speaker 2>helping him.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, the majority of people are like whatever, move on

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<v Speaker 10>to something else. I know a lot of super hardcore

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<v Speaker 10>Trumpeters would love to talk about January sixth for the

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<v Speaker 10>rest of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Lives, but that's not where most of America is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, America saw it and they had a choice

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<v Speaker 4>between Trump and then Biden and then Harris, and thank

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<v Speaker 4>goodness said we're not electing either one of them. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he brings with him that baggage. But let's let's look

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<v Speaker 4>to that. What are we accomplishing by relitting gating it

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<v Speaker 4>at this point? And Jack and I were both harshly

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<v Speaker 4>critical of Trump then, and I have not changed my

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<v Speaker 4>opinion of his activities on the day one Ioeda, I

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<v Speaker 4>still condemn it. And yet here we are, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>in the year twenty twenty four, with a hell of

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<v Speaker 4>a lot on her plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get on it.

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<v Speaker 4>So speaking, which Christen Welker, who again I should have

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<v Speaker 4>written out all of my various insulting adjectives I'd had

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<v Speaker 4>in my head to use for her, because I find

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<v Speaker 4>her obnoxious, smugly, one sided, and snotty ooh, just not

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<v Speaker 4>a good person anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, she brought up the.

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<v Speaker 4>Federal minimum wage and clip thirty nine B.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that one. Michael.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't if you remember this, but during the debate

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<v Speaker 8>in twenty twenty I asked you if you would raise

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<v Speaker 8>the minimum wage. You said you would consider it. And

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<v Speaker 8>so my question for you is now that you are

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<v Speaker 8>going back to the White House for these nineteen states

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<v Speaker 8>that voted for you, are you going to raise effect.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a very low number, I will agree it's a

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<v Speaker 6>very low number. Let me give you the downside though,

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<v Speaker 6>In California they raise it up to a very high number,

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<v Speaker 6>and your restaurants are going out of business all over

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<v Speaker 6>the place. The population is shrinking. It's had a very

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<v Speaker 6>negative impact. But there is a level at which you

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<v Speaker 6>could do it absolutely.

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<v Speaker 9>What is that level?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I really don't know. I can say this,

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<v Speaker 6>you have a lot of businesses that are open and

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<v Speaker 6>thriving because of the lower minimum wage. If you raise

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<v Speaker 6>it too much, and you understand this, if California went crazy,

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<v Speaker 6>they went crazy, and people the restaurants are closing all

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<v Speaker 6>of them, many more people are hurt.

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<v Speaker 8>So I hear you saying similarly to sort of what

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<v Speaker 8>you said in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 9>Will you consider this something you're going to look at.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd want to speak to the governors. And the other

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<v Speaker 6>thing that's very complicated about minimum wages is places are

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<v Speaker 6>so different. Mississippi and Alabama and great places are very

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<v Speaker 6>different than New York or California, I mean in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of the cour of living.

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<v Speaker 2>And other things.

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<v Speaker 6>So it'd be nice to have just a minimum wage

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<v Speaker 6>for the whole country, but it wouldn't work because you

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<v Speaker 6>have places where it's very inexpensive to live, where a

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<v Speaker 6>minimum wage, which is eight or nine dollars might be

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<v Speaker 6>you know, might have very much, very little effect because

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<v Speaker 6>the cost of living in certain places is really low.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes me so tired, I know. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the leader of what is now the working Class Party,

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<v Speaker 2>and the raising the minimum wage polls. Well, it's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with a five minutes of explanation, you could

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<v Speaker 2>explain to a lot of people why it's not actually

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<v Speaker 2>good for you to raise the minimum wage. But Trump realizes,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the party that he's leading. But even when

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<v Speaker 2>he states to her there's a downside to raising the

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<v Speaker 2>min wait, she just completely blows that off and goes

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<v Speaker 2>with the next question of obviously it would be good

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone to raise the minimum wage. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I should inject here one from one of your Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>swell so Well quote on Twitter about the minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 2>The minimum wage law is very cleverly misnamed. The real

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<v Speaker 2>minimum wage is zero, and that is what many inexperienced

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<v Speaker 2>and low skilled people receive as a result of legislation

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<v Speaker 2>that makes it illegal to pay them what they're currently

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<v Speaker 2>worth to an employer.

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<v Speaker 4>Well said, very succinctly, said, Trump frustrates me always because

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<v Speaker 4>he does just a half assed job of of explaining

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<v Speaker 4>some of the principles that I hold dear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he is what he is.

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<v Speaker 4>But the federal minimum wage is to call it irrelevant

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<v Speaker 4>is to exaggerate how relevant it is. It is a

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<v Speaker 4>complete non factor in anyone's life. It's a silly discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>If states want minimum wages, they should pass them. There is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with the exception of a couple like enslaved

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<v Speaker 4>immigrants who are probably trying to escape right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>I wish them well, there is nobody in America who

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<v Speaker 4>is exchanging their labor for a wage that they are

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<v Speaker 4>unwilling to exchange their labor for.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't want to do a job at a

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<v Speaker 4>particular wage, you will not take that job. The idea

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<v Speaker 4>that the government can, somehow, especially the federal government, prop

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<v Speaker 4>up some sort of minimum it's just it ignores everything

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<v Speaker 4>that is the most fundamental about economics. It's just silly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a silly question. I mean, it's it's pretty silly

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<v Speaker 4>on the state level. On the federal level, it's completely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Say you're gonna have a minimum wage for Coonhuller, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>And what is that gonna do for the people in

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<v Speaker 4>Seattle for instance? Or La Nothing, it's just dopey Kristen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what's the main business in Coonhuller?

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<v Speaker 4>Squirrel skinning, mostly squirrel pelts, squol, squirrel coats, squirrel hats.

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<v Speaker 2>I make and sell, I make and sell frog gig

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<v Speaker 2>and sticks. Oh, you're the jack of Jack's froggy sticks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>jack sticks are very pointy. My daddy used to tell me, boy,

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>you go frog giggins son. You don't have jack sticks,

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>you might as well have popstickle stick. Eh. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>assume you stab the frogs or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see which what else do we want to play?

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<v Speaker 2>I like where he calls her hostile and nasty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's play for me, Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>The press has to straighten itself out because Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 6>lost all credibility based on the press. I should have

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<v Speaker 6>gotten no votes none. Oh, and yet I got the

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<v Speaker 6>highest number ever. And the reason is because I'm able

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<v Speaker 6>to go on a show even like yours, even though

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<v Speaker 6>you're very hostile, I'm able to go on a show

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<v Speaker 6>like yours.

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<v Speaker 9>No, Well, hopefully you thought it was a fair interview.

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<v Speaker 9>We covered a lot of policy grounds.

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<v Speaker 6>It's fair only in that you allowed me to say

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<v Speaker 6>what I say. But you know, the answers, the questions

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<v Speaker 6>are you pretty nasty?

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<v Speaker 2>But look, that's true. You know, you would think.

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<v Speaker 6>The press would like to see strong boarders, great education,

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<v Speaker 6>are powerful military. So we have a country left and

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<v Speaker 6>all these different things, and somehow they don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To see that.

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<v Speaker 4>As always, I wish I could, you know, be the fly,

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<v Speaker 4>or not the fly on the wall, but the voice

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<v Speaker 4>in Trump's here and have him say, like you've pointed out,

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<v Speaker 4>Jack many times, you ask every question from the perspective

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<v Speaker 4>of liberal Americans. More than half the country is conservative.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask a question from their perspective ones you might like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And on some specific issues like the deportation, there's

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<v Speaker 2>polling that shows the vast majority it's in ease. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a sixty to forty win for deporting illegals, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>why why ask it from the point of view of

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<v Speaker 2>the forty speak which she asked every single one of

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<v Speaker 2>her immigration questions. From the perspective of AOC pretending to

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<v Speaker 2>cry in a parking lot miles away, the phoniness thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about, you know, deporting people, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>both ends of the equation.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the people that have been treated very unfairly

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<v Speaker 6>are the people that have been online for ten years

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<v Speaker 6>to come into the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to make.

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<v Speaker 6>It very easy for people to come in in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of they have to pass the test. They have to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to tell you what the statue of liberty is.

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<v Speaker 6>They have to tell you a little bit about our country.

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<v Speaker 6>They have to love our country. They can't come out

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<v Speaker 6>of prisons. We don't want people that are in for murder.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to get the criminals out of our country,

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<v Speaker 6>and we got to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're going to let the good people in, the

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<v Speaker 4>smart people who we can use, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the murderers. But what about separating families?

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>So we got some we had the conversation earlier about

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<v Speaker 2>that United Healthcare CEO getting assassinated in New York and

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<v Speaker 2>how awful that is, and anybody who acts like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a way to fix problems is a lunatic. But we

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<v Speaker 2>got some interesting comments on the insurance industry and things

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<v Speaker 2>that people have observed and experience that are worth discussing,

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<v Speaker 2>So we can do that when we come back. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>Arm Strong Hengetty fans are counting down to one last

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<v Speaker 1>magical performance on Taylor Swift's Eras tour. One thing is

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<v Speaker 1>certain the tour's earthshaking impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the past two years.

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<v Speaker 1>The newly minted.

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<v Speaker 11>Billionaire has become Spotify's most streamed artists, broken box office records,

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<v Speaker 11>lifted the NFL's ratings, and boosted economies, all while dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>More than seventy songs.

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<v Speaker 11>Surveys estimate the arastour has driven more than seven billion

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<v Speaker 11>dollars in consumer spending in the US and Canada alone,

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<v Speaker 11>between tickets, travel, food, merch and outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we broke this down when she was touring

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<v Speaker 2>the US, the amount of money she brought into La

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<v Speaker 2>the three I think she played there in various cities.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a huge economic boom boom boom if she

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<v Speaker 2>came to your town and now she's finally finishing up

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<v Speaker 2>a two year long tour so she can fully focus

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<v Speaker 2>on Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs playoff run. TMZ is

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<v Speaker 2>saying the United Healthcare ceo murder person of interest has

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<v Speaker 2>been detained by the police. I don't see that anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Oht CBS has it now. A person of interest is

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<v Speaker 2>being questioned in Pennsylvania in the United Healthcare CEO's murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be nothing, could be everything. We'll find out they

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<v Speaker 2>probably got them. I'll bet they do too. So we

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<v Speaker 2>already had the discussion of whether or not we should

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<v Speaker 2>be dignifying the guy's probable arguments about healthcare costs and

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<v Speaker 2>being out of control, which we kind of are by

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<v Speaker 2>bringing it up. But got these texts. My wife works

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<v Speaker 2>for an oncologist here in California as billing specialist, so

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<v Speaker 2>all she does is bill insurance companies, and she tells

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<v Speaker 2>me that the dirtiest thing the insurance companies do is

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly deny certain services hoping the bill will go away.

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<v Speaker 2>And it works because the biller gets tired of trying.

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<v Speaker 2>What you guys said, about doctors losing money on medical

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare patients is one hundred percent true. I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>all experienced that. It seems like they just say no,

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<v Speaker 2>at least once to see if you'll go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>pay it, and then sometimes like I, just ignore it

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually gets paid, which is a very frustrating way

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<v Speaker 2>to have a system. Right, Yeah, I can picture that.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, none of this justifies gunning a man down

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<v Speaker 4>in cold blood, not even close. But yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 4>see as a policy, Yeah, hey, just deny everything. If

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<v Speaker 4>people have the wherewithal to reapply, then give it to them,

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<v Speaker 4>but we'll cut four percent that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Another point of view, different topic. I can guarantee you

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<v Speaker 2>that if insurance companies approve everything doctors recommend, we will

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<v Speaker 2>soon be given MRIs every time we have a headache.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is fair resolution of what's medically necessary, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's hard to achieve when the person making that determination

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<v Speaker 2>is employed by the company that has to pay the bills.

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<v Speaker 2>We may need a separate, independent board to make such decisions,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than a claims agment claims agent who thinks he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to move up the corporate ladder by being hard

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<v Speaker 2>nosed and save the company money.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, as I've had I've got a couple of friends,

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<v Speaker 4>golf buddies who are doctors, and they pointed out that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a patient says, my elbow hurts, I want

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<v Speaker 4>an MRI, and you tell them, well, there's practically no

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<v Speaker 4>chance that it's anything an MRI would discover. Blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just not worth the cost. And then that one

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<v Speaker 4>in two hundred and fifty case turns out he had

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<v Speaker 4>a tumor in his elbow and it kills him or

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<v Speaker 4>even you know, he has to go in a hospital

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, you get sued. It's enormously expensive, and so

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<v Speaker 4>you think, all right, ef itt you want an MRI,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll send you for an MRI. It's a complete waste

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<v Speaker 4>of everybody's time and money. But the insurance companies say, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't need an MRI. So, yeah, that push and

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<v Speaker 4>pull is fairly natural.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I remember though, on the I.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't claim for a second that it's not sometimes unfair

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<v Speaker 4>and immoral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know, somebody right now keeps getting denied for

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<v Speaker 2>they got a black spot in their lungs something like

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<v Speaker 2>that they can't improve for any MR what's the other one.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one's cat scans or whatever. I had that

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of my cancer, where they just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that the insurance company hasn't agreed to that yet, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna so you could. I finally paid cash. I paid

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred bucks out of my own pocket and went

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<v Speaker 2>to a different place. I figured out which one was

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<v Speaker 2>the cheapest, drove forty five miles and had it done there,

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<v Speaker 2>paid cash. It got reimbursed by the insurance company. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they wouldn't do right off the bat

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<v Speaker 2>was highly annoying, given the fact we were already down

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<v Speaker 2>the road to something wrong. So right, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's very frustrating. Again, does not justify murdering the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with this decision, especially because and

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<v Speaker 2>that the correspondent made reference to this. We were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the unholy uh relationship between the government and the

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<v Speaker 4>private health insurers and how the government has forced them

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<v Speaker 4>into an incredibly difficult spot. Or they're making a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of profits, but they're essentially we the ratepayers, are getting

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<v Speaker 4>ripped off.

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<v Speaker 2>But more on that to come. Well, if they did

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<v Speaker 2>arrest the guy who did it, We're going to find

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<v Speaker 2>out what his reasoning was pretty soon. If you miss

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