1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: your own presences presence enough. And I already had too 5 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: much stuff. 6 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 7 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no. Gift temperature Wineger. We're here 8 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: in the studio, very early recording. I think maybe the 9 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: earliest recording of this podcast ever ten thirty Well it's 10 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: ten forty three, but that's seventeen minutes before our usual 11 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: early type of recording. So I'm in a mood. I'm 12 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: in a real mood. What's going on? Let's see, last 13 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: night I saw the new Frankenstein movie, and as you 14 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: might assume, the monster does go down a water slide, 15 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: you get to see the Frankenstein's monster go down a 16 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: water slide. I think we need to land on a 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: name for Frankenstein's Monster. I don't know there's enough, it's 18 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: enough with all the confusion. What else? I guess we're 19 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: kind of in the holidays now, so I hope you're 20 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: enjoying yourself. If you're the sort of person who enjoys themselves. 21 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: What else. I mean, speaking of big events, I spent 22 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: a good deal of the weekend dry heaving. I unfortunately, 23 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: our poor little Bonnie got sick, and I assume a 24 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, there's a chance you may 25 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: be eating right now, but there's only a few things 26 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: a sick dog can do. And she went all out 27 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: at three am. The level of dry heaving I was 28 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: doing was Olympic level. I dry heaved myself into another century. 29 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: But that's all in the past, and hopefully we'll leave 30 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: it in the past. And I think that's let's see, 31 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: document wise, Do I have any business, Let's see. No, 32 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: we have the Patreon. Just a reminder that there's the Patreon, 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: which you go to patreon dot com slash I said, 34 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: no gifts. I mean, just it's an ocean of content 35 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: over there. I've become a real producer of content. Bonus 36 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: episodes of the show, episodes of me recapping a variety 37 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: of reality televisions, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Secret 38 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: lives of Mormon wives. I do a little, you know, 39 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: I glance at Dancing with the Stars in order to 40 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: keep up with Whitney Levitt. But by the time this 41 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: comes out, that's probably over And I just have to say, 42 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: Whitney Levitt, Lever or hater what a dancer. The woman 43 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: can move. She's a star. They need to just put 44 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: her on that show. I had never seen the show before, 45 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: but I assume she's the best dancer they've ever had. 46 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: But go to patreon dot com slash I said no 47 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: gifts today. We just released the episode with my mom. 48 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: I mean, she's speaking of stars. Debbie Wineger can move. 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: As a podcast guest, she's really got it. Okay, I 50 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: think we've covered all of the business I've I mean, 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I've sleep deprivation and coffee and ten 52 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: thirty record puts me in a new place. But I 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: think we should get into it. I love today's guest. 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: She's just fantastic. It's Amy Silverberg. Amy, welcome to I 55 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: said no gifts. 56 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so sorry about the heaving. 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Oh when was the last time you were dry heaving? 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, I had bad chicken. Oh no, on a barbecue 59 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: chicken pizza. Oh, I was heaving. I was eaving all right. 60 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Wow, it's that's kind of a hard for them to 61 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: get the raw chicken on the pizza. 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: What was tough to. It was a pizza party and 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: I was the only one to have ventured into that 64 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: particular pizza. So he was texting everybody the next day. 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: It was like a girl's birthday. It was like all 66 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: girl pizza party, right, And I was like, is anyone driving? 67 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: I didn't say driving. I was like, is anyone losing it? 68 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: You know? 69 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: And Everyone's like no, no, like which, And then I 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: thought to myself, I'm the only one who experimented with 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: the barbecue chicken. 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: The chicken on a barbecue chicken pizza should be cooked 73 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: before the pizza, then with the pizza. 74 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe it had sat out for 75 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: too long, but I haven't had barbecue chicken pizza since then. 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: I might never. 77 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: Again before that experience. How did you feel about barbecue chicken? 78 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: Leave it? I can leave. 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: It's really kind of weird that I went for it 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: that day, because I feel like people are either they 81 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 2: absolutely hate or love a barbecue chicken pizza. 82 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: It's very divisive. 83 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: One other thing I didn't lead with is it was 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: my pizza party. 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: You said it was. 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't know why, my pizza party birthday with all girls. 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: Wow, so you ordered the girls and the girl was me. 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why I to separate myself. 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: I thought maybe that was the day you became a woman. 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: That's the day I became a woman. 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: You left. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you ordered that pizza 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 3: for your for the party. 93 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: A friend did it, like ordered all the different pizza, 94 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: you know. I think that's why I sort of tried 95 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: to separate myself. It wasn't my pizza ordering. I don't 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: want anybody in the audience who wants to invite me 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: to a pizza party. I want them to know they 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: can trust me. 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: You're not going to give it away. 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to do anything weird. 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: Can you say where the pizza came from? We can 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: beep it out. 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I know Culver City. A friend 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: ordered it. She said it was a good pizza. It 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: was also expensive. 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: Oh boy, wow, I'd like to put that place. 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm putting all of Culver City on notice, the whole. 108 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: City until we narrow it down to this pizza parlor. 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: The whole city is should beware poison Central take pizza. 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: That's a long way to travel a pizza from Culver 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: City to wherever. 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: We did it in Culver City. 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: Oh you did it? 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: You know a friend lives in Clover City. I don't 115 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 2: have a big enough apartment. Let's have the pizza party 116 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: in Clover City. I feel that already I've established myself 117 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: as an unreliable narrator, and the whole crowd. 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: Is like, what what can we trust for this one? 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: Ten thirty is early to get to Burbank's. 120 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: Ten thirty is a hard time to have a conversation. 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: Let's be honest. 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Everybody at home is like, fuck you, guys, I'm up 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: at work at eight am. 124 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: Well, even if I'm up at six am. From six 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: until eleven am, I'm not someone that should be approached. 126 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: What are you doing between six and eight am? 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Disassociating, regretting my life, thinking, oh, I can't believe I 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: woke up at all, bickering with my boyfriend or telling 129 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: him to be quiet. 130 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: Are you a person who tries to like stay off 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: their phone in the morning? 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: A little bit? This is my morning. I wake up, 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: turn off the alarm, and now I turn off the 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: white noise or the dark noise I think is what 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: it is? 136 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: Noise? And because you're a demon, I'm a demon. You're 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: listening to dark noise. 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: I turn that off, get my phone, get my coffee 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: and protein bar, and go into the backyard and read. 140 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: Okay. 141 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: Once I'm done with my coffee, I go in and 142 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: get my phone okay, and then go back out and 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: then just start ruining. 144 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: My day okay, because that's a healthy way to start 145 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: the day, I feel. But it doesn't prevent you from 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: So it doesn't prevent you from coming in and ruining things. 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Right if I have if the phone is next to 148 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: my book that I'm just not reading the book. 149 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you got to leave. I got one 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: of those apps that makes it hard to get on 151 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: social media. You have to. It's called screen Zen okay, 152 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: is the one that I'm using, and you have to 153 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: You're only allowed three times on ten minutes at a time, okay, 154 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: and then you have to wait a full minute for 155 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: it to let you on. But as it's I'm like, well, 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: just annoying when I have to wait them of course. Yeah, 157 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: but it has prevented me from like mindlessly sort of 158 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: scrolling because if I go to mindlessly scroll and then 159 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: I see that I have to wait a full minute, 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm like fuck. 161 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: This, right, it just like snaps you out of it. 162 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but is there's no. 163 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: Work around, I feel like I would get around the worker. 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm so bad at technology. If there is, I don't know. 165 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: So for a computer whiz like myself, I mean I. 166 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: Should be named Debbie or Nancy. Nancy is my mom's name, 167 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: Linda Kathy. I'm like I have a boomer level of technology. 168 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like any of those things I would 169 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: just it has to physically be locked away from me, 170 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: which is unfortunate. How much longer do you think we're 171 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: all going to be trapped? And like, at some point 172 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: there has to be a breaking point when we start 173 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: leaving at least Instagram for another new thing. You know. 174 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm teaching this semester, so I'm with gen Z and 175 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: how are they doing? And they are unwell but they're 176 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: kind of like funny, but yeah, they do they you 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: know how people talk about the gen Z stare and stuff. Yes, 178 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: they do have kind of like zombie eyes that I 179 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: think is from staring at their screen. Right, But I 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: also think everybody's been worried about the youth. 181 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: Since since the beginning of time. 182 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: I think they are like chillin you know, they make 183 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: me laugh. They talk about their like boyfriends, ex boyfriends, 184 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: facetiming them. In creative writing, we spend forty five minutes 185 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: out of the hour talking about people's ex boyfriends, facetiming them. 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: That's what creative writing is all about. 187 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: That's the beginning of a story. 188 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: Exactly so. But otherwise they seem pretty normal. 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're shy. They seem really shy, at least the 191 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: students in my class like people like but once they 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: start talking, then they but they seem to have a 193 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: little bit more like no one. They're no like class 194 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: clowns that are like constantly interest kind of chatting. I'm 195 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: like begging them to talk, you know, I'm telling them 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: I'll injure myself in front of them if they don't speak. 197 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: I feel I feel like shy is a good place 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: to start. 199 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't mind it. Yeah, shy teen better than the opposite. 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, an annoying teen. I forget it. 201 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Come on, nineteen twenty twenty one. You know, they're in college. 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: They're shy, and it feels like gen Z is now 203 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: getting to you know, Jen Alpha's now they in charge. 204 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't, I don't can't tell the distinct. 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: How old is the oldest Gen Alpha at this point? 206 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: Is that like a I'm turning to the booth. 207 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: How old is like fifteen eighteen? Where are we with 208 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: Gen Alpha at this point? 209 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: They're born between twenty ten and twenty twenty four. 210 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: Okay, fifteen years old. 211 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: So they're just they're not yeah, they're still in there. 212 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: They haven't gotten to me yet. 213 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Right, They're not driving, They're not They're not a yeah yeah, 214 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: but they're the advertisers are starting to turn the gaze 215 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: towards Jen Alpha and where the rest of us are 216 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: just continually losing power and sliding towards death. Wow. I 217 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: was going to ask you how you start your mornings. 218 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I try to do the thing where I stay 219 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: off my phone and I also try to read. I 220 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: gotta get a coffee. Like the moment you know, I'm 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm like crawling out of my I can't do anything 222 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: without I'm so addicted to kaffee. Right, I get a 223 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: migraine if I don't have coffee. 224 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: Coffee, are you doing a whole pot in the morning. 225 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: I open a can of cold brew, a can that 226 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: I get from bulk from Costco. Okay, well, huge, I 227 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: got to show you it. Okay, I think I have 228 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: early onset dementia. I can't pull it. Absolutely, I can't 229 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: pull anything from my brain. 230 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: It's so scary when someone else something. 231 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: This is something I look at every day in order. 232 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: But it's one of those that's it was the highest 233 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: milligrams of caffeine. I could find choice like three hundred and. 234 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: That's a good one. 235 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, And I drink it, and I 236 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: feel that I feel the same, but I at least 237 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: don't have I'm not getting like a splitting headache, right, 238 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: and then as I drink it, I try to read 239 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: a book. 240 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's nice. I think I make my 241 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: own cold brew, but I'm even that the idea of 242 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: just being able to open a can. 243 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: You make your own cold brew, that's like trad husband 244 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: of you. 245 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: I am you make it. 246 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that entails or is that 247 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: just like pouring concentrated and. 248 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: You get this thing called a cold brew toddy, which 249 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: is a plastic like thing, and then you put the 250 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: coffee grounds and then water, then coffee grounds in water. 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Then you let it sit for twenty four hours. 252 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: All very sexy. I feel to hear that you're making 253 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: and do you make it for your husband boyfriend? 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I make the. 255 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: Whole ring and I can't remember which rain goes on. 256 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: That's a good day. I forget all the time. 257 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to go for it. It's 258 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: my husband. I'm going the tickets. 259 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: Wife excuses me. 260 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. 261 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: You make the concentrate and then it sits in the 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: fridge and then you make it in the morning. But 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: I make it for. 264 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: Both of us because he can't complain never. 265 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: But I mean the sky complains non stop. 266 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: You're making him cold brew. 267 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: The amount of complaints it's ridiculous, none of them too much. 268 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: That's like if I buy my boyfriend dinner, I'm like, 269 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: then for the next two weeks, I'm like, remember when 270 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: I got you dinner. It's so annoying. 271 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, shut them over the same thing. 272 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: And I'm getting him like two for one. It'll poil 273 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: loco And I'm like remember that, I'll how good it was? 274 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: You usually go out to dinner? Do you just split? No? 275 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: He always pays for me. 276 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: He always pays. 277 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: That's what's so crazy for me to be like, remember, 278 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: I think it's me being like, you know, the one time. 279 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: But we have really different schedules because he works a 280 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: normal job and I'm, you know, a kookie, right working 281 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: ten working ten various jobs. So I'm often bringing over 282 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: like taco ball at like ten thirty d. That's very nice, 283 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: and we don't live that kind of I have some 284 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: kookie beliefs, like what like religious. No, my kookie beliefs 285 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: are that I need a lot of privacy. Yeah, yeah, no, 286 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: I just I've never lived with anyone, and I have 287 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: a great apartment that I love, right, But I don't 288 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: want to tell you how long we've been dating because 289 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: then it seems really creepy. 290 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: Though we don't live I don't think that that's creepy 291 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: at all. I think that that's very healthy, get. 292 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: On great, right, And he keeps moving closer to me, 293 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: so I'm hoping that eventually he'll just live next door. 294 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: He's slowly creeping up. 295 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: He's creeping up on me because I won't leave my apartment. 296 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 3: You know. Oh, I think that that's totally fine, and 297 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: especially I think in a big city where it's just 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: like hard to find a good apartment. I'm like, we 299 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: don't fight, you know, of course, how could you possibly 300 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 3: your time is more valuable when you're together. 301 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Yes, And and I feel like a lot of the 302 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: things that people fight about are like someone breathing. 303 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: Of course, you know, hearing the other person. 304 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. And I'm just like, listen, am I 305 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: in therapy. Yeah, shout out to doctor Barbara. 306 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: She's doctor Barbara. Reach out. Yeah. 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh she calls in. She's like, I'd like to talk 308 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: more about Amy's issues. Listen. I grew up in a 309 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: house where, like, my dad was talking to me through 310 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: the bathroom door. Not a lot of private too much. 311 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: You can't talk to someone in there. 312 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Larry's Larry's calling me ten times a day. You know, 313 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: he's on the toilet, He's calling me. His name's Larry. 314 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, I need I got to live alone, 315 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: got a alone. 316 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: No, I totally understand that we've started. We sleep in 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: separate beds almost every night of the week. 318 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: See that's and that sounds good to me. 319 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: Oh it's lovely. 320 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: And then do you sorry? I'm sorry to bring this 321 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: up on the pod. Whose bed do you have sex in? 322 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's a great question. 323 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm okay, And that's fair enough. I thought i'd take 324 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: a stab, you know, just sometimes I got to take 325 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: a big swing, and if it's a strikeout, I don't mind. 326 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: That's that's part of doing stand up comedy. Sometimes you 327 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: get on stage and you whiff. 328 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: You know, you didn't whiff, you just didn't get an. 329 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Get an answer. That's like my crowd work. I'm like, 330 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: so what bed do you guys? Fucking I hate when 331 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: comedians ask people in the crowd like vulgar questions. 332 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: What I was going to say about calling is do 333 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: you forget this when you call somebody on speaker and 334 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: they ask, am I on speaker? But people get really 335 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: sensitive about being on speaker phone. 336 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what they're really asking is can someone here? 337 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Can someone else hear me? 338 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: I feel like I get a lot of the time. 339 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: It's just like, why don't you have Why are you 340 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: using your like some of your strengths to hold the phone? 341 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: I think that's weird. It's like, what do they care? 342 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'm doing you a big favorite just by 343 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: even talking. 344 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: I always assumed it was is someone else in the 345 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: room and can hear me? You know? 346 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: Right that person's paranoid? Yeah? Yeah, and I will let 347 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: somebody know if there's somebody else in the room in 348 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: the car. 349 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: I would hope I'm not just gonna blurt out right 350 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: something private like I blurt out on this podcast. 351 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Are you a big phone person? 352 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big talk to my girlfriends every time 353 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: I get in the I drive a lot, as many 354 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: LA people do. But I got a lot of jobs 355 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: on every side of the city, right, but I'm crossing. 356 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm in the car. I feel for four hours a day. 357 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: And so every time I get in the car, I 358 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: call a friend and I listen to her problems. 359 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: And do you just do you schedule the call or 360 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: you just randomly call? 361 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: I just randomly call. And I got a lot of 362 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: girlfriends with problems, and you're a girl thirties in LA, 363 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: and I'm somebody who doesn't mind hearing them. I find 364 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: people's problems to be and they're always problems with as 365 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: many girls problems are women's. There are problems with no solutions. 366 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: So you're just kind of just listening, but you're not 367 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: offering solutions. 368 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the solution is like we have to get 369 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: you to like see yourself as lovable. 370 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: And I also think people don't want to hear solutions, 371 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: And what. 372 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: Sort of solution is you need to see yourself as lovable. 373 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they know right, you know, so when it becomes advice, 374 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: the people tune that out. 375 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: They just want to Sometimes the solution is like we 376 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: got to you gotta get a job, but like there 377 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: are no one wants to hear that either, or they're 378 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: already trying to get a job. 379 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: Of course they're trying to get a job. 380 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: That's not helpful, right exactly. Or like they're sad about 381 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: a breakup, and what are you going to say to that. 382 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: You're just like, yeah, I'm sad too that you had 383 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: that happen. 384 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: And you have to be careful about talking about a 385 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 3: breakup because if you insult the X too much, then 386 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: they get back together. That becomes you can't be fully honest. 387 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: There was a minute when I was doing surprise phone calls, 388 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: and I've kind of shied away from that. I think 389 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: I need to get back into that. 390 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: Why did you start trying away? 391 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that during the pandemic it 392 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: became a thing that felt good to just give somebody 393 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: a phone call, and then we all got kind of 394 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: back into our lives as much as you possibly could. 395 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: And now it feels a little bit like, am I 396 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: scaring people? 397 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: Like it? And I was doing a lot of surprise 398 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: face times, which I think, Yeah, that I've stopped. Now 399 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: I'm only doing surprise phone call. 400 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would text before, and I don't really care 401 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: to see a friend's face. Yeah, I don't need to 402 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: FaceTime a friend. I will. Uh, maybe I should start 403 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: randomly calling people again. 404 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: I get into habits with certain people where I'm talking 405 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: to them constantly, and then I've like one of my 406 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: best friends lives in Australia and I don't call her 407 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: because I feel like when I call her, we need 408 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: a lot of time to catch up. 409 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: Right. 410 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: The people I'm calling are people who I really know 411 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: what's going on in their lives minute to minute too much, 412 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: I know. 413 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: You know. I was just wondering about this, Like, what's 414 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: the longest amount of time you haven't spoken to somebody, 415 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: like to a good friend, to a good friend that 416 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: you feel like you could still give them a phone call. 417 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: Let's say you haven't spoken to somebody in two years? 418 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: Is it? Do you need to text first? 419 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: Two years? That's tough. 420 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever gone alarming to get a 421 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: phone call from somebody you haven't heard from in two years. 422 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: I feel like it's either like a person from like 423 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: high school that is coming out of the blue, you know, right, 424 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: or a person Yeah it would be alarming to me, 425 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: would it be alarming to you? 426 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to decide. I mean, like, let's say that 427 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: you're kind of in contact through social media, so you're 428 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: aware of each other. 429 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's different. 430 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 431 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: You know, I'm an optimist and I always think someone 432 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: is calling to get give me something. 433 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: Does that happen? 434 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: Well, even if it's just like a like you know, 435 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: like we need you to do a Q and A 436 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: for twucks. 437 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: Right right, I don't know. 438 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: That's what I'm always. I'm always I'm like a person 439 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: who answers unknown numbers, thinking that it's going to be 440 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: someone like, hey, we read a short story of yours. 441 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: We want to turn it into a movie. 442 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: I used to ground down for me, that's totally filed. 443 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: It's just like my dad finding new numbers to call 444 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: me from. 445 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: Like for some reason, I now just think it's either 446 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: scam or medical call. Yeah, urgent care. 447 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: Call, cold calls. I'm getting a lot of I thought 448 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: I have health insurance from a certain company and I 449 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: keep getting phone calls being like, this is your health insurance, 450 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: but it's a different company. I never know if it's 451 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: a scame. 452 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: Got to be very careful. 453 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: I probably don't have health insurance now. I'm probably like, accidentally. 454 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: You have to I think, what did they say? If 455 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: you think that, if it seems like they're calling you 456 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: don't answer, then you call them from a different phone number. 457 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: It seems too good to be true. 458 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: If it seems too good. I know something about if 459 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: it seems too good to be true, if. 460 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: Someone's calling me being like, Hi, yeah, Steven Spielberg, can 461 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: you come over? Like we read a short story of 462 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: yours in the Indiana Review and we need to have you. 463 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: We want to make it into a movie. All my 464 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: short stories are like a girl walks into a bar 465 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: and has a conversation. 466 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: I'd like health insurance to call with an offer that's. 467 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Too good to be and Hi, we have a kidney 468 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: in case you ever need one. 469 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: We're just gonna keep it on You're gonna put it 470 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: on ice. 471 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: Let us know if you ever need one. It's waiting 472 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: for you. 473 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: Well. Look, speaking of disappointment and things that were too 474 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: good to be true, I think that having you on 475 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: the podcast may have been too good to be true, 476 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: because I was looking forward to having you here. 477 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: It's something that can happen to me. 478 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: Something bad has happened to me, Amy. I was excited 479 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: to have you here. I thought, amy'l combie, we'll have 480 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: a nice time. We'll just chat, see what's up with 481 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: each other's lives that then move on with our days. 482 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: The podcast is called I said no gifts, so my 483 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 3: day was immediately ruined. And it's as I said, it's 484 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: very early. So now I have to live through the 485 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: rest of my day in a mood because you showed 486 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: up holding a gift. I'm sorry, doesn't seem like you are. 487 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: I just wanted to bring you a gift badly. 488 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: Okay, well should we open it here on the podcast? 489 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm embarrassed for people to see, but I 490 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: guess I have no other choice. 491 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: Well, as long as you're embarrassed. 492 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: I know you like to embarrass me, of course. 493 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: Let's open it here. You've totally lost a kid. It's 494 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: in this beautiful brown bag. This is a yes, I'm 495 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: going to reach in here. Okay, Oh, it's an interesting feeling. 496 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: Let's pull this on I'm pulling something else. 497 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm just making sure there's nothing else here. 498 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: It's a dense bag. 499 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, by the way. 500 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, oh this is whoa Oh wait did you 501 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: this is a van Go printed on it. 502 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: Where did you get this? This is my dad's paint 503 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: by number. My dad has become a painter, and uh, 504 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: every painting he does is worse than the last. This 505 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: one's actually one of his better ones. 506 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 3: This one's pretty good. 507 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I talked to you know. What I really 508 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: wanted to find, which I wasn't able to get, was 509 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: he did a portrait of me. 510 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh, let's see this. 511 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Can you show the camera that. 512 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: Put this on Instagram? If it's not great? 513 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 2: Has daughter Amy? You know, you can flip through. He's 514 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: got some other really kind of awful painting. 515 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: Who's this? 516 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: That's my mom at her at her birthday. That's pretty 517 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: I love this. The waiter in the background. This is 518 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: when he was still doing pain by numbers my dad. 519 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: Larry Silverberg, who read the caption on that. 520 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: One, says lots to criticize about this water color of 521 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: a girl swimmer assignment, especially the mouth. He's so he's 522 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: just getting ahead of the viewers of criticize. 523 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: When I read that caption on a painting lots to criticize, 524 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: I thought, this is this makes me understand myself and original. 525 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so now he's no longer doing paint by numbers, but. 526 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: I think he's a good painter. 527 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: Don't lie. 528 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: Coy some coy with masking fluid, which I failed so 529 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: hard hard. Oh yeah, his daughter is here criticizing him 530 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: on see this. 531 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: He doesn't have Instagram. I thought, maybe you could do 532 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: something with that paint by number? Do you have any 533 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: interest in art or van go? 534 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: I do? I and in I'm a doodler. My mom's 535 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: a great painter. 536 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh, really, really good letter letter, give it a critique. 537 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: I feel like if I didn't know this was paint 538 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: by numbers, I would just think it was a like 539 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: a you know print that you ordered online. 540 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so you like it? Well, I think that's like 541 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: is a strong Will you put it up somewhere. 542 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: I'll put it up here in the studio. Okay, we'll 543 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: have a space so it'll be out of the camera. 544 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: My dad will feel honored. He is a painting. 545 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to pay for a frame. 546 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: No, please, this could. 547 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: Probably dangle somewhere, or let it dangle. Yeah, we'll let 548 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: it dangle from a shell. 549 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: Honestly, you could put it on the ground as a mat, 550 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: as a doormat. 551 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your problem with this thing? No? 552 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: I I just think actually that it's really beautiful to 553 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: start a hobby late in life. 554 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh so he started this how long ago? 555 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: He's about to turn eighty? Wow, he started it recently. 556 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: And it's all he does every day is and then 557 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: he calls me to tell me kind of about the paintings. 558 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: That's what I want you to know. 559 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: I also have a lot. He's got a lot of 560 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: paintings to give away, so he won't miss this. 561 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: You know. Does he mail these see or do you 562 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: get them when you go home? 563 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: No? When I go home. He's also trying to get 564 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: me to give them away to friends. He's like, please 565 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: give people my paintings. 566 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: You know. So when he gives you this one, for example, 567 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: what was your reaction. 568 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: I said, van go and he said, yeah, I fucked 569 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: it up. You know, immediately he was criticizing it. 570 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: Is he proud of any of his paintings. 571 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: One or two? But then he'll look at which I 572 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: also relate to, you know, as a writer a comedian. 573 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: The next day he'll look at it again and decide 574 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't like it, right, And who among us is. 575 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: Is which ones was he kind of proud of? 576 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: Um, he likes the one that he did of my 577 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: mom do that? 578 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's a nice one, which is Yeah, he 579 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: captured the waiter who seems kind of frustrated. 580 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: He captures an essence and it even if he captures 581 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: sort of nothing else. 582 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: Does he have any goals? Does he want to be 583 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: shown in a gallery? 584 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: No, he just wants to have fun. 585 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: And did this come out of nowhere? He's like, well, 586 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: I got to do something with my time. 587 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think he wanted like an 588 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: artistic outlet, and honestly reminded me that I don't. I 589 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: don't really have a single hobby. Oh I have one hobby. 590 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 2: I actually almost brought you poker chips. I play poker. 591 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh hobby. 592 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a good hobby, but like I have 593 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: no I think if you're in the arts as a job. 594 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: Right, it kind of ruins that your hobbies. 595 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you have no sort of artistic hobby. But poker, 596 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, like and it's unhealthy. 597 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: How long have you been playing poker? 598 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: Probably like three or four years now? 599 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: And did you teach yourself or Christine Madrano? I bet 600 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: a friend of the poll former former guests at the post. 601 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to Christine Mitrano. She was sort of 602 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: my mentor. 603 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: She play excellent poker. 604 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and so we go to the casino together. We 605 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: don't even play. I play homegme. But where we really 606 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: shine is at the casino. 607 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: What casino do you go to? 608 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: You name it. I've been there commerce the bike Hollywood Park. 609 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: If you look in my wallet, I'm like trying to 610 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: take out a credit card. I have casino cards like 611 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: flying out. 612 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: You've been to the Marongo? 613 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 2: Oh that I haven't been. 614 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: You haven't been to the Mango. 615 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: I haven't been to the Marongo. 616 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's shocking. 617 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm meeting a lot of weird old men at the 618 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: casino and they are close friends of mine. How much 619 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: It's so embarrassing how many people I recognize when I 620 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: go in all these Every Filipino older man is my 621 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: best friend. 622 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: That's great. What a community is a community? Have you 623 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: won big before? 624 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I've won big and I've lost big. 625 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: How much have you won. 626 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: Like seven hundred, that seems okay. 627 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that's big. I mean that would be. 628 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: For me low stakes, and I'm very we call it nitty. 629 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm in nitty, meaning I'm like a conservative player. I'm 630 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: not going in. I'm not trying to gamble. 631 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 3: Or you're healthy, you're not a gambling addict. 632 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not trying to gamble. I'm trying to play 633 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: sort of strategically. 634 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: What's the most you've lost. 635 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: In one sitting? 636 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like six. 637 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: Hundreds, See that would be you know, oh, and I 638 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: feel terrible about myself after, but it goes up and down, 639 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: so like overall, I'm pretty even, right, That's why it 640 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: is like a stupid hobby that's just sort of like 641 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: stress relief. 642 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: If I lost six hundred dollars, I would have to 643 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: get a second job. 644 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: I mean when I lose six hundred dollars, it's always 645 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: because I'm like really stressed out, and it's like healthy, 646 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: Like I got to play poker as a stress reliever. 647 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 2: So like my boyfriend would take a long walk and 648 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm like going all in on pocket tooths. You know, 649 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: it's like not a good do. 650 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: You think you'll ever try competitive poker. 651 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: You mean like a tournament. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you 652 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: need a lot of time for a tournament. I like 653 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: cash games because you can just go and cash games 654 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: are still competitive you're playing against the team, right, But 655 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: cash games just mean. 656 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: You go in and out a tournament. You have to 657 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: just and can anybody show up to a tournament? 658 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: I'd like to bring you. 659 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: I am the last person who will The idea of 660 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: even playing one game of poker is horrified. 661 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I love it so much. I am smiling 662 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: minightly the entire time. I'm smiling even when I'm losing money. 663 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: That probably works in your favor, I think, so, yeah, 664 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: because no one, no one can really tell what's going 665 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: on in your mind. 666 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and I like I have like I think 667 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: one of my better qualities is I have a deep 668 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: curiosity about other people. Okay, sometimes you know, curiosity kills the. 669 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: Cat, right. 670 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: So I meet really sort of interesting people at the 671 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: poker table. And I met a guy whose job was 672 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: to clean up after dead get rid of. 673 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: Dead bodies, oh at crime scene clean. 674 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: Up or just if I were to pass away here. 675 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: Oh so he works for the morgue or something. 676 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: I guess he just he was like, if the cops come, 677 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: they're not the ones who come to take away the body, right. 678 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: They have some guy in a suit. And did you 679 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: learn anything about that whole situation? What did he have 680 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: any tips? 681 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: I asked him? You know, actually, I was like, do 682 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: you like the job? And he said something sort of 683 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: moving about like I like to treat, like really honor 684 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: a body's last moments on earth, like I treat it with. 685 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: A lot of care. 686 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: So it was and then I loved dream seventy dollars 687 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: and left. 688 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: Was he a good poker player? 689 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: No, not particularly. I think I was a little you know, 690 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: I've met some guys on parole. I'm meeting a lot 691 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: of interest. Wow. 692 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I don't mind black jack, but not playing 693 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: for money. 694 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: How do you play blackjack for no money? 695 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: Just like my boyfriend and I will just play, you know, 696 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: just this is very rare. But okay, okay, here's just 697 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: kind of a thrill. Yeah, no, I like, do you 698 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: play blackjack at all? 699 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I like blackjack. I like craps. I'm a gambler. 700 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: It's my worst quality in best quality. 701 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: What's your favorite casino? 702 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, I love Vegas. Okay, and but if we're talking 703 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: about l A, well, this is when things are going 704 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: to get real freaky. Like I like the food at 705 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: the bicycle, I like the Kung pow chicken at Hollywood Park. 706 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: This is a much time I'm spending at these because 707 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: see those and in commerce, I like the action. 708 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, that seems like the most important thing for 709 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: Are you eating kungkout chicken while playing poker? Yeah, so 710 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: there's like a plate of it. 711 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and yeah, I'm eating it. I never eat 712 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: anything you got any for knife. You can't eat anything 713 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: with your hands, obviously because you're touching the carts chips. 714 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know you were allowed to eat during poker. 715 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually one of my favorite parts. It's like 716 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: getting the casino food and eat eating. People don't think 717 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: that I can be a degenerate gambler because I'm five 718 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: feet tall. They think something about that. I think I 719 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: can't see over the chips. 720 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: I feel like short people are more likely to be 721 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: degenerate gamblers. I feel like tall people don't need to 722 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: they've got it all. Tall people don't need to get 723 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: or short people are like, well maybe this. 724 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: Will fix everything to hell? Yeah, like close to the ground. 725 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: Do you like Las Vegas? 726 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: Uh? No, absolutely. I'm trying to be more careful about 727 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: how I talk about because I feel like, no, not 728 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 3: so much that I just feel like I grew up 729 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: in a city that was the butt of every joke, 730 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, and I remember being like, well, there are 731 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: good things about the city. I will say, there's so 732 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: many awful things about Las Vegas that maybe maybe they're 733 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: for other people. It's not my cup of tea. I 734 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: will say, you do see the bottom of humanity there, sure. 735 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: And I only ever spend like two or three days 736 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: right time. 737 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: Anyone who's in Las Vegas for more than three days, 738 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: their life is ruined. 739 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: Yah. 740 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, going there? And how long you were there? 741 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: For? 742 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: Three days? 743 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: Two days? 744 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: Two days? 745 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: And we went to a high end strip club, oh, 746 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: which I'd never been to disturbing. I thought that there 747 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: would be way more like joy and laughter. I don't 748 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: know what I like. I was thinking it was going 749 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: to be like maybe more burlesque type like room. But 750 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: I think because it was high end, the men were 751 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: so grimly horny. I didn't I was like I was 752 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: waiting for like some like, but they felt like. 753 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: They were owed something grim grimly. 754 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: But I did see a woman take off her thong 755 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: to reveal a smaller thong, and then she did of 756 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: that song and there was an even smaller thng, So 757 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: that made it all That made it all worth that 758 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: a thong on a thong. 759 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: No Vegas has there's an apocalyptic prison city feel to 760 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: it that just doesn't really work for me. Yeah, there's 761 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: a you know, there's a great Thai restaurant I like 762 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: there that Like I wish it wasn't in that city 763 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: because I would go there. 764 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: What do you ever think about what you how you 765 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: would do in an apocalypse? 766 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: I would kill myself immediately. 767 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that question. And some people really 768 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: take joy in being like, oh, I'll like grow cabbage 769 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: and all. Why I'm a Type one diabetic. I'm like 770 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: I need insulin, Like just eat me first. 771 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: The absolute nightmare for you. 772 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not interested in Also the It's like 773 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: every boyfriend I've ever had is always like I'll get 774 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: you insulin. It's like, you know, like what are you 775 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: going to grind up the pain greass of a pig? 776 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: Like you're not confidence, You're not gonna be helpful to me, 777 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: Like eat me if I don't like to imagine the 778 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: in apocalypse. I know it's getting closer and closer. 779 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: But I'm no, I just feel like at that point, 780 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: why bother? I like to camp for one night Max. 781 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a big camper, so I'd rather be 782 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: in Vegas than on a campground. 783 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: Like on the downhill slide towards like the end of 784 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: the world. I would probably enjoy myself with some looting, 785 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: et cetera. You think you're gonna loot, I would loot, absolutely, 786 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: I would loot now, Okay. 787 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 2: See, and I think I would be like I would 788 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: be like, come, let's play a game. I'm dealing cards. 789 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: No, I would be throwing a cinder block through a 790 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: best By window, getting a new washing machine. 791 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 792 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: I feel like that that level of freedom, that anarchy 793 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: would be fun for a minute. Yeah, one minute, and 794 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: then it's like, okay, now it's all over. Throw me 795 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: in a river. 796 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a minus the gambling, a bit 797 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: of a goodie two shoes. 798 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Well, but see that as am I'm a 799 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 3: I follow rules but like to suddenly be like, well 800 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: who cares? 801 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be turn out to be the most 802 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: evil man in the apocalypse, like after having followed all 803 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: these rules. 804 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's all pent topic, like I'm the ruler 805 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: of Earth. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm such an evil. 806 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been demonic and no. 807 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: I'd love to be in the grocery store just eating 808 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 3: the food while I'm walking around. 809 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was my dream as a kid, 810 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: to be like left alone at like pavilions. What's sad? 811 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: There's something satisfying about the idea of like drinking a 812 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: drink before you get to the checkout and then just 813 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: paying for the ka something like that. 814 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: You know, they got mad at my grandma, my booboo. 815 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: May she rest in peace. She was like in her 816 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: eighties nineties for going through like the nuts and taking 817 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: a few break. The grocery store guy came over and said, 818 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: you can't do that. It's like this woman's like eighty eight. 819 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: You're not gonna let her eat a pistachio. Jordan Allman, 820 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: what your sample of cash? Who let her sample of cashew? 821 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: It was so crazy, Wow, that's really I think after 822 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: your hand in, she was like taking it out with 823 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: the even if she was putting her hand in come. 824 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: On out of the bulk bins. 825 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: Out of the bulk bins. 826 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: I think that's for anyone of any age. They should 827 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: be able to do that. 828 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: One little fresh. 829 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: It may have been there for a long time. 830 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: Everything if the TVs, you know, is under lock and key, 831 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: so you got to be like, excuse me, like I 832 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: need this dealready. 833 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if the item is under seven dollars, they 834 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: should not be behind glass. Just let let people steal it. 835 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: Turns out we're ready to loot right now, you and I. 836 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: The CVS. I feel like that must cost them more 837 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: money than they have to hire more employees or something 838 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: to go let people into the glass, one would think. 839 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: And they have to pay for all of the glass. Yeah, 840 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: and it just makes it a missing It was already 841 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: such a miserable experience. Let us in charge pharmacy should 842 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: be doing something to make them more appealing. AE own 843 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 3: forget it. Well, do you have any other hobbies planned? 844 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: Do I have any other hobbies plan? 845 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: You know? 846 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: I used to paint grand Yeah, and I would like 847 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: to take it up again. I went to one pottery class, 848 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: but the instructor like did it all? 849 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 850 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: So my bowl turned out so good that I was 851 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: to like the left of the instructor, and she kept 852 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: coming and putting her hands on my bowl. But people 853 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: get really into pottery. 854 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, some people are very good at it. I'm not. 855 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: Do you have any hobbies? 856 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 3: No, I mean I guess video games is kind of 857 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: a hobby. 858 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm like the worst kind of gamer because I played 859 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: games on my phone such a fucking's kind of gambling. Well, well, 860 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean the games I'm playing are like Bubble Spinner. 861 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: I'm not like spending money on them, but I'm on 862 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: level three and fifty seven. 863 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: It's like so creepy and they're very slot machine coded. 864 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: They're just fun to like play. Well, Like, you know, 865 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: TLC poly Family is on in the background. I was 866 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: telling you, I. 867 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: Like, we were talking about TLC poly Family. 868 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: You haven't watched TLZ poll Family. I beg your listeners, 869 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: and I beg you. 870 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: I haven't watched it yet. TLC at some point there's 871 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: going to be a reckoning for their producers. 872 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: Oh. I think already they're having trouble sleeping at night. 873 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: I think that they are. 874 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: I haven't seen yet. They need it worse a dark. 875 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: Soul when you start pitching TLC reality shows they're at 876 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: Carnival Barkers. 877 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm back on Marriati First Sight, which is also 878 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: kind of an interesting. 879 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 3: We we o died on ninety Day Fiance during the pandemic. 880 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: I was watching that during the pandemic and something happens 881 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: where it gets too dark. 882 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've just had so much of it. 883 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: You're just like and then you're just like, the people 884 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: are coming over to America to be with the scariest, 885 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: ugliest man you've ever seen, and they have so much 886 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: to lose and so little to gain that it becomes 887 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: too difficult, too yeah to continue watching. But I like 888 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: when the women take advantage of the men. 889 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh, of course. When I love when there's somebody coming 890 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: from another country and it's just some oaf uh of course, like, yeah, 891 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 3: you should be taking advantage. 892 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I have the money. 893 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 3: She knows what she's doing. 894 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like when it's like some dumb guy and 895 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: like a Russian woman is like, you have to give 896 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: me all my all your money. 897 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: I feel like we're probably talking about the same one, 898 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: and I feel like they lived in Park l Brea. 899 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: Do you remember that couple? 900 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think that guy Bobs I can't do 901 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: a Russian accent, but. 902 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: That was pretty good. Thank you boobs. 903 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: I need boos, I need more purse. 904 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 3: She absolutely juiced that. 905 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: Guy, and he was just kind of like is this 906 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: a normal relationship? Like you see him on Reddit being 907 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: like is this is it normal for your wife to 908 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 2: yell at you? I need boobs, I need persons. 909 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: I think he was eventually arrested for something else. 910 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: Uh oh well that makes it like fraud. 911 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it was fraud. 912 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: Fraud, something gonna vague fraud. 913 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: But I was. I was rooting for that mean Russian 914 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: the entire time. 915 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: Come on, It's like, yeah, he him, squish him. 916 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 3: I wonder where she is now. 917 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm somebody who might accidentally commit fraud 918 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: just in my tax is really that's scary estimating and 919 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: my taxes are really confusing because I have to file 920 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: a thing for everywhere I've done stand up. 921 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: Oh if that's real, I've definitely. 922 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: Done some kind of fraud. 923 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 3: Hopefully no one's This show has a big IRS listenership, 924 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 3: so that sort of thing when you're freelancing is so scared. 925 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: My tax I'm just like, please be on top of this. 926 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: A mere tax guy, you know, he's in Chatsworth. He's like, 927 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: she gambles too much. 928 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: That's oh yeah, gambling. Do you have to report your 929 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't. 930 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: Do enough that I report it, like you know, and 931 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm pretty kind of I. 932 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: Wonder how much you have to win gambling in order 933 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: to report it. I bet the casino tells you. You right, 934 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: they're probably kind of on the. 935 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: Watch me right now getting into trouble, like realizing that 936 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 2: I've been I'm supposed to be reporting and I haven't. 937 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: I yeah, definitely, if you win a big tournament, like 938 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: Christine placed in a big tournament and she won like 939 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: eight K, I assume, yes, that's a big Maybe it's 940 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: like ten. 941 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 942 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: Christine's going to eventually win the world. 943 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: We're going to bring you to the casino and see. 944 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: And I will be an absolute killed joy. You will be. 945 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: You will regret every second I'm there. I can guarantee 946 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: I was in the casino a couple of months ago 947 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 3: and it was a miserable experience for me. Which casino 948 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: the one in Palm Springs that it's not wrong? Yes, yes, 949 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 3: my boyfriend was playing black jack and he enjoys gambling, 950 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 3: and he since we had met, I think he had 951 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: gambled once, like ten years ago, and I said, never again. 952 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: And then this you want to go with him? The 953 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: cam that he could because I was like, you have 954 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 3: to stop throwing them up. Wait, and not that he 955 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: was like now that he had, Boyfriend's. 956 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: Just simply afraid of me too. I'm sure he wishes 957 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: he could say, I need you to. 958 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: Stop, but this time you convinced me. He gave me 959 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: twenty dollars and I went and used the slot machines 960 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 3: realized very quickly I don't even know how to use 961 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 3: a slot machine, and then lost off the money. 962 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: I told my boyfriend because he had lost money, and 963 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: he was like in a like he was upset about it, like, 964 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: and I got you can't be around me if you're 965 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: upset about losing money like this. 966 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 3: That vibe is not of course, so do not bring me. Yeah. 967 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm like, I need I'm losing money. I'm smiling, Okay. 968 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 3: Because you're treating it as a game, not as a 969 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 3: money making sure. Sure, yeah, because I would go into 970 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 3: it thinking I have to make money. Now, this is 971 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: my job for the next two hours. 972 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: And have I occasionally told people I was going to 973 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: the library and then went to the casino instead. Yeah, 974 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: and that's something again, Doctor Barbara listening, we can circle 975 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: back to that. I don't think you're supposed to be 976 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: lying about where you are. 977 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 3: Wait, what's your favorite casino in Vegas? 978 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: I like where I like to play poker. Is the 979 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: Encore or the Win? 980 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 3: Never heard of the Core? 981 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nicely familiar with the use a free drink, 982 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: So I like that. 983 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: You see that appeals to me, but a free drink appeal, 984 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: But for me, it's a diet coke. Just spend the 985 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 3: two dollars. 986 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 2: Fun though, you know that free diet coke. I'm like, 987 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: keep them coming, swell. 988 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 3: Should you have to gamble for them to start offering 989 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: you free drinks? 990 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: You if you just sit down at the table with 991 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: any money, they I noticed they kind of take a 992 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 2: long time to bring you a drink. 993 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 3: Oh, of course they want more money. I mean the 994 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 3: psychology that they're using. I bet they have a whole 995 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: team of psychologists working. 996 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: And the amount of verbal abuse that these women, I mean, 997 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: like sexual harassment. These women taken at the table were like, sweetie, 998 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: come on, sweetie, whatever I don't know why I made 999 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: them from like New Jersey. That's me too. When I 1000 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: sit at the table, I'm like, sweetie, it's sweet sweetie. 1001 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 2: Can you hurry up? That Bailey's on ice like ordering 1002 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: the weirdest. 1003 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 3: Oh that you are living my hell. I don't know 1004 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 3: how you do it, but yeah, hobbies. I was rock 1005 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 3: climbing for a minute. I need to get back into 1006 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: that is that scary indoors? Not for me at least. 1007 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: I think you have a cord. 1008 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 3: No, I was bouldering, so you don't have a cord, 1009 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 3: but you're only at max like twenty five feet in 1010 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: the air. At one point, I was like I had 1011 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 3: gotten to like a maybe mid to high level, and 1012 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 3: I decided to film it on my phone and I 1013 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: filmed it like me. 1014 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 2: Getting to the top, like you put it on a 1015 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: propped it. 1016 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 3: Up against my water bottle. I filmed the whole thing 1017 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 3: and it was difficult. I got to the top and 1018 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 3: got down and then I watched out my phone. It's 1019 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: like this is I can't I can never show anyone this. 1020 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: This is so embarrassing. 1021 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: What was embarrassing about it? 1022 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 3: Because it's like I climbed like fifteen feet into the air, 1023 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: you're it, You're like, yeah, while doing it, it's like, 1024 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 3: this is so difficult, this is so impressive. And then 1025 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 3: you watch it, You're like, this is maybe two and 1026 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 3: a half times my height. If I were to fall 1027 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 3: to the ground, I might be sore. 1028 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: The next thing, No, I pull vaulted in high school. Wow, Yes, 1029 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 2: And I was so bad at it. I was not 1030 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: allowed to participate in any of the meats. 1031 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: Who told you you weren't allowed to participate, they were 1032 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: just like. 1033 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: You're like, you're not even gonna make it. Like I 1034 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 2: could only make it over the first thing, which is 1035 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 2: five feet, so I could essentially vault over myself if 1036 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: I was like coming to attack myself, and I had 1037 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: a stick and au But I remember thinking when when 1038 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 2: you're in the air flying over, you. 1039 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 3: Feel like you're of course you're staring. 1040 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: And then someone had taken a video of me, and 1041 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: you're it looks so small compared to what other people 1042 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: are doing, because they're vaulting over like six feet and 1043 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 2: seven feet. 1044 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 3: And eve, and how does that I've never really, I've 1045 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: never tried it. You stick the thing in the grounder 1046 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: than it kind of. 1047 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 2: And then you but it really is like your form. 1048 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: So like the best girl on the team was like 1049 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: tiny and didn't have big upper body strike, but she 1050 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 2: had the right form. But if you're like a strong guy, 1051 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 2: you can kind of just vault yourself. I could do neither. 1052 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: I was just like poking people in the butts with 1053 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: the sticks, like having fun. 1054 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: What drew you to it? 1055 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: Then you didn't have to try out and I needed 1056 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: to finish a pee credit. 1057 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 3: I can't believe you didn't have to try out for that. 1058 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: That's is like one that's kind of dangerous. 1059 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: No track, they were like at my high school, they 1060 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: were just kind of like what do you want to 1061 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 2: do in track? Originally I wanted to throw the discus? Oh, 1062 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: and they told me I was too weak. They were 1063 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: like you got a way more than the discus, you know, 1064 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 2: five five feet. So then I was like what else 1065 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 2: can I do when I don't have to run? And 1066 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: they were like, how wanted you try to pull vaulted? 1067 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 3: Do you think you could pull vault now? At any level? 1068 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: You know? 1069 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 2: That's a friend just was like do you still pull vault? 1070 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, it's not only something you do 1071 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: like as a leisure activity. 1072 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 3: You have to go buy what is this thing called 1073 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 3: a stick? The pole? 1074 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, like you get the pole, you need the 1075 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: you need some pads, you need to find the Yeah. 1076 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: I feel like that would be a practical skill to 1077 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 3: have in some regard if you're running away from someone 1078 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 3: trying to Yeah, exactly pull vaulting away from like a 1079 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 3: horde of people. 1080 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Should we take that up as a hobby. 1081 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind trying. 1082 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: Do you have any other hobbies besides rock climbing? 1083 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 3: No, I play three chords on the guitar. I was 1084 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 3: thinking about buying a bass guitar. I think I could 1085 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 3: probably handle it. 1086 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: The three chords that can get you far. 1087 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: No, because I'm not good enough at even forming the chords. 1088 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 3: I was trying to learn to play this song see 1089 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 3: of Heartbreak. Do you know that song? But Don Gibson, 1090 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: wonderful song. I believe you, and I think I kind 1091 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: of began getting there, then got frustrated and gave it up. 1092 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: I have a really stupid question. How many chords are there? 1093 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 3: Oh? There? I mean there's so many chords. There's one 1094 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: for each note. You know, each note has multiple chords 1095 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 3: around it, Major, minor, all sorts of chords. So honestly, 1096 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 3: you have any idea how many chords are? 1097 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: I added this out I sound like. 1098 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think the limit does not exist because you 1099 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 4: have like you not only have major and minor, you 1100 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 4: also have like dominant and like sus telling me. 1101 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: There's infinity chords, I mean as many. 1102 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 4: I mean I'd have to look up one of those 1103 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 4: like equations where you type in how many notes and 1104 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 4: then how many because you can put seven notes in 1105 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 4: a chord if you really wanted to, so like you 1106 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 4: think about how many notes there are, and then you 1107 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 4: combine those notes with other notes. 1108 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: I don't know it just like it starts stacking who 1109 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 3: the rainbow? Yes sound its. 1110 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 2: Occurring to me. Now I've never known what a chord is. 1111 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 3: Have you never played any music? 1112 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: I played piano growing up, but not well. 1113 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 3: Right, and sometimes you put more than two notes? 1114 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 2: No, I know, I guess I knew that those are chords. 1115 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: But chords, yeah, I can play three, and technically I 1116 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 3: should be able to play a lot of songs. But 1117 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm just my finger. The finger strength isn't there. 1118 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: We got to work out your fingers. 1119 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 3: But I think with a bass, I think I could 1120 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 3: probably figure that out. One note at a time. 1121 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 2: Can you do you need to be in a band 1122 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: to play the bass guitar or can you just kind 1123 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 2: of do it alone? 1124 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 3: You could play it alone. I think eventually you'd be like, 1125 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 3: I need some other things going on here. 1126 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: That's like drummers. I'm like a drummer's hard to like 1127 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 2: drum alone. 1128 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: But a drum solo, when done well is kind of fun. 1129 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 2: Sure. But if you're like only ever drumming alone. 1130 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 3: Just yeah, you're kind of there. Solitary guitar, I feel 1131 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 3: like you can play a large chunk of a song. 1132 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions about the drums, like. 1133 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 3: What how do they decide how many are in a kit? 1134 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: No, well, they decide like how to play it in 1135 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 2: one way? To me, the drums seem really like you 1136 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 2: get to improvise. 1137 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah you can really, I mean make up your own beat. 1138 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: I guess yeah. 1139 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 2: I'm realizing now I dated a drummer for a while 1140 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: and never really asked him a question about it. It's 1141 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: occurring to me you had no interest in his life, 1142 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: Like I better call him up and say, why don't 1143 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 2: I ask you about how do you decide about the drumming? 1144 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 3: I think eventually, if I gave it my all, I 1145 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: could play the drums. But it requires a lot of 1146 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 3: because you're as I think. I just listened to a 1147 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 3: lot of music, and I think I have a decent 1148 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 3: natural rhythm. Okay, but that could be wrong. 1149 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: You have to be on a desert island with one 1150 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: record that you were going to play over and over 1151 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 2: and over again. 1152 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's a that's such a difficult question to answer. 1153 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know. 1154 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: I guess I'll let you think about it and text me. 1155 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 3: Uh, I would like to. You have to have something 1156 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 3: that won't get old too quickly, that. 1157 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: You can listen to over and over and over again. 1158 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 3: Do you know what an album that I think is 1159 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 3: like between like a pop album and more experimental as 1160 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 3: David Bowie's Low and it's like it's I think there's 1161 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 3: enough there that it could probably sustain you for a 1162 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 3: while on what about you? 1163 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: I have such a terrible taste in music. I'm like, 1164 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: that's fine. I only listened to like Joni Mitchell and. 1165 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 3: Like not terrible rule. I guess natural combinations. 1166 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm like, I guess maybe I like a Lorn. 1167 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Hill mis Education. That's a good album. 1168 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: Nineties and early two thousands, R and B and like 1169 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 2: folk music. I'm all over the place. 1170 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 3: I think that you could end up with a great 1171 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 3: Joni Mitchell album. Would be good on a desert. 1172 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I take like Joni Mitchell. 1173 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,439 Speaker 3: Give me a break. Yeah, come best of? I don't 1174 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 3: think you could do best of. 1175 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. You tell me. 1176 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 3: That's like saying you just want to like a compilation 1177 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 3: of chapters from different books. 1178 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 2: Okay, best of books, that's what I should have brought you. 1179 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I think we should play a game. We're going 1180 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 3: to play a game called Gift to a Curse, but 1181 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you. 1182 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: Six. 1183 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 3: Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get 1184 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 3: our game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, 1185 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 3: do whatever you want. Tell me right back. 1186 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: Okay. My debut novel is out at every bookstore. It's 1187 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: called First Time Long Time through Grand Central Publishing. Slash 1188 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 2: hashet First Time Long Time. It wasn't airports for a while. 1189 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 2: It was on the airport bookshelves, but it's no longer 1190 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 2: a new release. Now it's like a five month old release, 1191 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: but you can still find it. 1192 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 3: That's great. Everybody should get it. 1193 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 2: I love that and Noble that's the bookstore, I say, 1194 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why I would say that. Support your 1195 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 2: barns and notes, go to your local bookstore. I love 1196 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 2: to see it in bookstores, So send me a picture. 1197 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: Can you see it? 1198 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 3: I think that's such a beautiful title. 1199 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm a radio It has a radio component, 1200 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 2: so first time listener, first time that long time? Oh wow, 1201 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 2: and here we are kind of on the radio. 1202 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: Did it take you a long time to get to 1203 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 3: that title? Yeah? 1204 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 2: I like sent a bunch of titles to the editors 1205 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: and my agents as we were trying to sell it, 1206 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 2: and to my agents first before we sold it, and 1207 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: this was the one we all liked the best. I 1208 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: also said, you know what interesting is the cover? They 1209 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 2: sent me a lot of really ugly covers. 1210 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: It's got a great cover, and we said something kind 1211 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 3: of fun and graupd stands out because there's a lot 1212 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: of book cover design that kind of just blurs together. 1213 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like. I like a graphic cover and uh, 1214 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: you just hope that someone will walk by and like 1215 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: pick it up. 1216 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 3: All right, what's your favorite book? 1217 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh god, the book that made me want to be 1218 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 2: a writer when I was in college. Middle March by Elliot. 1219 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 3: I've never read it. 1220 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: Really, it's long and it's sort of a study and 1221 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 2: what it means to be alive. My favorite book of 1222 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: the month, I would say, is Beauty Land. Okay, my 1223 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 2: favorite book of this month. 1224 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 3: That's been it, all right. This is how I play 1225 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 3: Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. 1226 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 3: You're going to tell me if there're a gift or 1227 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 3: a curse and why? Then I'll tell you if you're 1228 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 3: right or wrong, because there are correct answers, and there's 1229 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 3: a good chance you'll lose the game if you're not careful. 1230 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 3: All right. This first one is from Patreon listener Caitlin 1231 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 3: Gift or a Curse, posting a photo of all of 1232 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 3: your Christmas gifts. 1233 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: Curse Why because, like we've seen on so many reality 1234 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: TV shows, if you show all the stuff you have, 1235 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 2: someone will break in and steal them. 1236 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 3: Does this happen on a reality show before? 1237 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, like Dori Et you know, we also 1238 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 2: saw it recently on Selling Sunset someone broke into Mary's 1239 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 2: house and store stuff. So you're you're asking for it 1240 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: if you're showing like look at all this stuff I have. 1241 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: Why not someone break in and take it? And it 1242 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 2: might be you because you're a louter. 1243 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 3: I am a future louder. 1244 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: You're a future louter. Yeah wrong, Okay. 1245 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 3: That's a gift. That's a and you're kind of illustrating 1246 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 3: that by you should let me know what you have 1247 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 3: in your house. Everyone should know what everyone has in 1248 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 3: each other's houses in case you need to take it 1249 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 3: or steal it. I don't want to break into a 1250 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 3: house with no knowledge of what's in there. Sure, I'm 1251 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 3: not just going to break into any strangers. I'm going 1252 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: to find somebody that trusts me. 1253 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 2: You break into my house, you see my dad's paint 1254 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 2: by numbers. 1255 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:50,720 Speaker 3: No, I want to know what's in your house. I will. 1256 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 3: It'll be a friend or a family member. I'll break 1257 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 3: into their home. I've seen their Christmas hall on Instagram. 1258 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 3: I've got my Santa's bag. We're reverse Santa. 1259 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: I've never seen anyone post what they've gotten. 1260 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,479 Speaker 3: I have to imagine I have that feels like something 1261 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 3: that's that's some of the someone. 1262 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't people posting like them and their whole family 1263 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 2: all in the matching pajamas. 1264 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 3: That's actually a very layered thing because I feel like 1265 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 3: there was probably a point when it wasn't done ironically 1266 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 3: m and that was fun to look at because it 1267 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 3: was like, what's going on in this family? 1268 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: Sure? 1269 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 3: And now but now there's like family, every family trying 1270 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 3: to go viral. 1271 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1272 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 3: Do you remember the Pajama family that was like on YouTube? 1273 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: I know, but it's so wild to be known as 1274 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: the pajama family. 1275 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 3: It was like this YouTube family that is everything they 1276 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 3: ever produced was the worst, just worse and worse and worse. 1277 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 3: They were like rapping about I think they did parody 1278 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 3: songs about being in pajamas and the holidays. It was excruciated. Yea, 1279 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'll break into their house. 1280 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: Okay, take their pajamas. 1281 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've gotten one wrong so far, big deal. This 1282 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 3: next one is from Patreon listener Alex Gift to a Curse, 1283 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 3: low or any other all instrumental versions of hit songs. 1284 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say gift why I like that kind of 1285 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 2: stuff to write too, Like I like no lyrics, and 1286 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 2: now do I write to it? Maybe I've done it once, 1287 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: but I like the idea of it of like a 1288 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 2: low fi no lyrics thing. Is that means I'm realizing 1289 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 2: I'd not that. I know. 1290 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to correct listener Alex, but I feel 1291 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 3: like unless this is just kind of one of those 1292 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 3: words that's now just taken on new meaning, lo Fi, 1293 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 3: I would assume is just like the recording is not 1294 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 3: as high quality, you know. But I think what Alex 1295 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 3: is saying here is just purely instrumental. 1296 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: Yes, that I like, but bad quality. No, I don't 1297 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 2: like that. That's a curse. 1298 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 3: But we have to choose one or the other. Okay, 1299 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: I'll still go with gift. Okay, wrong, Okay, this is 1300 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 3: a curse. This for me, I like to hear instrumental music, 1301 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 3: but I don't. This is gonna drive me insane because 1302 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 3: often it's just me thinking what song is this? What 1303 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 3: is the lyric? It's it's something that just is taking 1304 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 3: up brain power for me, and I think it's a 1305 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 3: waste of everyone. 1306 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 2: So you couldn't name that tune? 1307 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at it. 1308 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 2: That's a game I hate. And when I when someone 1309 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: wants to play name that tune, I want to take 1310 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: out a weapon, like I'm not going to be able 1311 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 2: to name a single tune. So I do hear that 1312 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 2: that's frustrating. 1313 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: How do you play? Name that tune? Do you play? 1314 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,439 Speaker 3: Did they play the actual song or do they play 1315 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 3: They did. 1316 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 2: It like a wedding shower recently where they only played 1317 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of the instrumental and then everybody had 1318 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 2: to kind of write down what the song was. And 1319 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 2: I just eventually sat down my pen. I was like, 1320 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm like, I can't get a single one. 1321 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't seem to know what's going on. 1322 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 3: I get so competitive, Okay, okay, and I well, I 1323 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 3: haven't played it in a long time, but I think 1324 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 3: I would be pretty good at it. They did the 1325 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 3: whole Jane Krakowski was hosting something like they had it 1326 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: but they like on the piano, and I don't think 1327 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: I could do that that way. 1328 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you to a cassine know where 1329 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 2: they have named that not casino doesn't exist. 1330 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 3: That casino will ruin me. All of my money will 1331 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 3: be gone. Oh okay, so you've gone too wrong so 1332 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 3: far everyone's rooting against you. This final one is from 1333 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 3: Patreon listener Casey Gift or a Cursed Cake with black 1334 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 3: slash Dark icing. 1335 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 2: Gift Why I like chocolate and I think it'll make 1336 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 2: me think that it's gonna be a chocolate cake. I 1337 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: also I enjoyed the time on the internet that was 1338 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: is it cake? 1339 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 1340 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 3: Sure? Thirty five seconds? 1341 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it would be cool to wonder 1342 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 2: like is this a block of coal or is it 1343 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 2: like a cake? So I'm gonna go gift. 1344 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 3: No HEMI you've completely lost the game. Wrong, No, no, no, 1345 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 3: And this is purely I need a cake just to 1346 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 3: be good. I don't need it to look good. I 1347 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 3: don't need it to look stylish or interesting. Okay, what 1348 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 3: is the black element doing? Just making it look dramatic? 1349 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 3: Who cares? And it's like, what are we putting? Is 1350 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 3: that ash? What is the thing you ask you question? 1351 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 2: I've actually really been wondering what what is red velvet? 1352 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 3: Red velvet is a waste of everyone's time. It's a 1353 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 3: lot of coke. I mean, it's cocoa, but then a 1354 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 3: ton of red dye. 1355 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 2: But does it taste Is it supposed to taste like 1356 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 2: chocolate cake? 1357 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 3: Well? 1358 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: Is it a different place? 1359 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 3: That's a good question, because I think it doesn't taste 1360 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: enough like chocolate, And yet does something weird to your 1361 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: brain where you're like, I don't know what this is 1362 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 3: supposed to taste like? Is this supposed to take tasting red? Yeah, 1363 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 3: and then then it has cream cheese frosting, which I 1364 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 3: think is more of the flavor. I'm glad we've put that. 1365 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 3: Left that in twenty twelve. 1366 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I haven't seen a lot of 1367 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: red velvet. 1368 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometime it took over for a period. 1369 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 2: Of people were chomping down on red velvet and nobody 1370 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: it was no one's favorite cake. No, no, it's not 1371 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 2: just a ton. 1372 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 3: Of red dye. 1373 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1374 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 3: It feels like something RFK would have a real issue. 1375 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if he could do one useful thing, it's 1376 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,919 Speaker 2: an outlaw red velvet cake because you and I don't 1377 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 2: understand that do one thing that's nice for us. 1378 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 3: Well, you got none, correct, and that's fine. 1379 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 2: And what will happen to me? 1380 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 3: You're just gonna live with that shame? Okay, at it 1381 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 3: to the pile. 1382 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Guilty as shamed, thoughtful talented. That's the acronym I say 1383 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 2: to my therapist that I think about myself guilty as shamed, 1384 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 2: thoughtful talented. You can definitely take that gat. 1385 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 3: Analise now has their own gift or a curse and 1386 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 3: we're going to speak to this. Analise will name a 1387 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 3: thing and we each have to say it and then 1388 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: they have their answer. Analise gift or a curse. 1389 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 4: When someone replaces your toilet paper but puts it the 1390 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 4: wrong side up? 1391 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 3: Do you want to go? Or should I go? 1392 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 2: You go? 1393 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 3: I think that's a gift. I don't understand this. I 1394 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 3: truly don't understand that anyone has a preference about where 1395 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 3: the toilet paper should which direction it should go. Yeah, 1396 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 3: I have never noticed, oh this is the wrong way. 1397 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 3: It just doesn't. It's a role and I it can 1398 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 3: go one or the other way. It's not that confusing. Yeah, 1399 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 3: So I think it's a gift. I think, ever, anyone 1400 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 3: that has an issue with this finds something else to 1401 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 3: complain about. 1402 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think they're all sort of walking curses everyone 1403 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 2: who has a problem. 1404 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I just think this is it's an invented issue. 1405 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Well you said gift. 1406 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a gift, and I think that people 1407 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 3: need to. 1408 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Quit complain it the gift because they can find out 1409 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 2: why they're so uptight. Yeah, and that's a gift to 1410 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 2: take with them. Right, I'm have to go. Curse, So 1411 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 2: I can say the opposite from my competitive spirit, and 1412 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a curse because how have we not 1413 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five found just a different way of 1414 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: toilet papering, like a different sort of maybe dispenser, a 1415 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 2: different like less. I don't know. There have been a 1416 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 2: lot of innovations in a lot of different industries, and 1417 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 2: toilet paper is one of those that is really I 1418 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 2: think stayed. 1419 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 3: It's a perfect product. 1420 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Oh you think it hasn't because it's perfect, and I 1421 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 2: think it needs to evolve. I'm not sure what. I 1422 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: don't have any suggestions, but I think some of the 1423 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 2: greatest minds in our in our world can maybe think 1424 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 2: about toilet paper. And I know in other countries they 1425 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 2: do the bidet. 1426 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, every other country basically on the planet. 1427 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: So maybe that maybe kind of coming back. 1428 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: Into the United States, I think coming back. 1429 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 2: I think it's used to occur in it. 1430 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Or maybe not coming back or finally, I read an 1431 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 3: article about it recently, like why Americans have a problem 1432 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 3: with bidets. 1433 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 2: And see, now that's kind of an issue with where 1434 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 2: journalism is that someone's like I got to read an article. 1435 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 3: On a lease. What do you think it's a curse. 1436 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, it's a curse. 1437 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 3: Cut their mic. 1438 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 4: Their no, I'm in control now, okay, cut your own mic. So, 1439 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 4: first of all, there is a correct way. There is 1440 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 4: a correct way, but that's not that That isn't the 1441 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 4: issue here. The issue here for me is that if 1442 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 4: you have the access to my toilet paper and you're 1443 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 4: replacing it, either you've had to like walk out of 1444 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 4: the bathroom without pants on and grab toilet paper from 1445 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 4: my cupboard or something, right, you're like rifling through my thing. Sure, 1446 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 4: or now you've replaced the toilet Maybe I had toilet 1447 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 4: paper in the bathroom ready to go like backups, and 1448 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 4: you've replaced it the wrong way. Now I have more 1449 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 4: work to do. 1450 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 3: What is the correct way? 1451 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Top? 1452 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 4: It's on the top. 1453 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:31,959 Speaker 3: Who cares? 1454 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Do you agree with me that there could be innovation? 1455 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 2: There should be innovation? 1456 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 4: I think that you know. I agree in the sense 1457 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 4: that one. I think that you know it's one of 1458 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 4: those untapped markets that clearly has more room to grow 1459 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 4: and to I agree with you just so that I 1460 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 4: can disagree with Bridger. 1461 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 2: So there you go. 1462 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 3: We've got to get something for me to pull the 1463 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 3: plug in here. Put that on your list anyway. Okay, 1464 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 3: we need to answer a listener question people are writing 1465 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 3: in to answer or sending voicemail voice notes to I 1466 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 3: said no gifts at gmail dot com. The voice note 1467 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: listener has to be sixty seconds or under and has 1468 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 3: to be in a quiet place. I believe you can 1469 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 3: do that. What are we going to do? On aali sore? 1470 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: Were listening to a voice note? 1471 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 5: Hello Bridger and disrespectful guest. My name is Sarah. I'm 1472 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,919 Speaker 5: hoping for some advice. My sibling and I both work 1473 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 5: in professional theater across the country from each other, and 1474 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 5: my sibling is about to embark on their first national 1475 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 5: tour as part of the crew, and the whole family 1476 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 5: is literally buzzing. I'm so excited for them. I work 1477 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 5: as a local and wardrobe crew at a theater where 1478 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 5: touring companies come through, so I know from meeting those 1479 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 5: folks that most of them don't want to schlep an 1480 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 5: unnecessary amount of stuff with them from city to city. 1481 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 5: My sibling show is going to be in my area 1482 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 5: around Christmas, though, so I'm trying to come up with 1483 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 5: the perfect tour appropriate gift for them. Bridger, I know 1484 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 5: that Jim is a performer, so you might have some 1485 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 5: insight into what kinds of experiences or things that a 1486 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 5: person on tour might want or need. My best thoughts 1487 01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 5: so far is just to take them to a nice 1488 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 5: dinner while they're in my area. But I'd love to 1489 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 5: know if you have any better ideas, and I thank 1490 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 5: you so much. 1491 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,919 Speaker 2: Love the show by Okay, but an interesting family that everyone's. 1492 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in their genes, it's in the blood to tour. 1493 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 3: They're all running from something, not a not a great family. 1494 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, they hate each other. They're all dodging cities 1495 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 3: and they've got. 1496 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 2: To be on stage or behind the stage, something with 1497 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: wardrobe and. 1498 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 3: Control issues or attention. Sure, sure, interesting And now they're 1499 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 3: having this confrontation during the holiday. 1500 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 2: Beth situation is not the one. 1501 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 3: Where one Macbeth is with the evil wife, right. 1502 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 2: You think about evil wives? Do you think all women 1503 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 2: in theater are evil? I think women in general are 1504 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 2: church sure, yeah, yeah. 1505 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 3: But lady Macbeth is very oh yeah, she's pulling the 1506 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 3: strings little. But these two siblings are running into each 1507 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 3: other during the holidays. They probably don't want to. And 1508 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 3: now this sibling is saying, maybe I'll take the sibling 1509 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 3: out to burger king, but might want some other ideas. 1510 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 3: What do you give someone who's traveling all the time, 1511 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 3: who might have to pick up in the middle of 1512 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 3: the night and. 1513 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 2: Go a boomerang because it always comes back. 1514 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 3: Some sort of weapon, yes, I think, yeah, maybe the 1515 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 3: siblings out on the road, the open road, and they 1516 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 3: might have to defend themselves at some point, some sort 1517 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 3: of knife, hunting knife, sure, switch blade they can hide 1518 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 3: in their back pocket. 1519 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1520 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 3: Actually, now I'm thinking one of those multi. 1521 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Tools, like a Swiss Army knife. 1522 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 3: Swiss Army knife autho. 1523 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 2: They always have, like a nail clipper and. 1524 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 3: A knife is very gay, isn't it. I'm just getting 1525 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 3: too that it's like a manicure kid. 1526 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, in the Boy Scouts in my neighborhood, Boy did 1527 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 2: they love showing their manicured kids around. 1528 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just we're getting into something there with the 1529 01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 3: Swiss army knife. Interesting. You can aisle your nails, you 1530 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 3: can clip your. 1531 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 2: Nails, you can open your sprite. 1532 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 3: You can open your sprite. 1533 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, weapon would be nice. A canteen a canteen. 1534 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Interesting, you're really picturing this person kind of in a 1535 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Mad Max situation. 1536 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 2: You're just like going like you go on tour, you 1537 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 2: know when you have those like a stick and then 1538 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 2: your pillowcase tied and that's. 1539 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Where you'd a bindle. 1540 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 2: That's what that's called. 1541 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Somebody needs to disrupt the bindle industry. 1542 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why have we not seen like purses 1543 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 2: on the on the designer runways as bindle. 1544 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 3: That feels like something that that's an untapped cat. 1545 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 2: I just keep thinking of this, like they're they're touring 1546 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 2: there on the open. 1547 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Road, right, They're like essentially on the back of a Harley. Yeah. 1548 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 3: And therefore, you know. 1549 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 2: You ever try to run away when you're a kid, 1550 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 2: and you always got just like down to the end 1551 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: of the street. 1552 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I would get up the hill and then 1553 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 3: I would open and then realize I had brought like 1554 01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 3: one cupcake. 1555 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,919 Speaker 2: I had to open get to the top of thehill 1556 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 2: waiting for someone to come find me. 1557 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Painting. 1558 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So without a passive aggressive attention, instead of being 1559 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 2: like you hurt my feelings, you didn't pay attention to. 1560 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Me, It's like I'll show, I'll show you. 1561 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,839 Speaker 2: And I still do that in my day to day. 1562 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 3: Several people think you're missing, right, there's a search party. 1563 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 2: Looking for because my students won't answer questions. I'm like, 1564 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,719 Speaker 2: I'm leaving. 1565 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 3: They're like, good, well, yeah, I think a weapon and 1566 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 3: a bindle that'll get this sibling on a new path certainly. 1567 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you heard the competitive spirit between them, the 1568 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: sibling rivalry, Like the two of us can't be touring 1569 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 2: theater company people. 1570 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 3: So you're kind of suggesting a knife fight perhaps, interesting, 1571 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 3: a Christmas knife fight perhaps, Yeah, a succession type sort of. 1572 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 3: I think I could bring them together ultimately. Yeah, Okay, 1573 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 3: I think that's you've got your question. I don't know 1574 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 3: what more you could ask for. Do not send any 1575 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 3: more voice notes to me and tell your sibling they're welcome. 1576 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 3: We answered the question perfectly. 1577 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Of course. 1578 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 3: I now have this gorgeous piece of art you are 1579 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 3: just throwing away. Larry did such a great trip. 1580 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 2: I wish that he had signed it. 1581 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,759 Speaker 3: I have a Larry Silverberg sort of original. 1582 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 2: And the next time I see you, I will be 1583 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 2: giving you a book to read. Okay, I'll get a book, 1584 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 2: maybe two, maybe some poker chips. 1585 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Poker chips. While you're enriching my life in a way 1586 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 3: that no one else has ever done. 1587 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 2: I want you to be coming to Jenner Gambler. 1588 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 3: Good luck, yeah, yeah, well, thank you for being here, 1589 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 3: thank you for having me listener. The podcast is over. 1590 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 3: I have I think I've said everything I need to 1591 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:45,520 Speaker 3: say to you for today, So get moving. I love you, goodbye. 1592 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our 1593 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 3: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are 1594 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 3: beautifully mixed by Ben Tolladay. The theme song is by 1595 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 3: miracle Worker Amy Man, and we couldn't do it without 1596 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 3: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on 1597 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 3: Instagram at I said no Gifts, That's where you're going 1598 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 3: to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. 1599 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 3: And don't you want to see the gifts? 1600 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 2: The lie in why did you hear? 1601 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Thought? I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest 1602 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 1: to me. You gotta come to me empty, And I said, 1603 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: no guests, you're our presences, presents enough I already had 1604 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey 1605 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 1: me