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Speaker 2: Money, I'll stand on mine.

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Speaker 1: You guys were very nasty. I thought I was supporting

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Speaker 3: I thought I was there, said brothers and sisters, exactly,

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Speaker 4: Sing me a song moon cricket, Gee, I gotta, I

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Speaker 2: A Kuala bears are racists.

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Speaker 5: Money stuff can't tell.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, little mamas and gentiles alike. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another phenomenal episode. And my mama told.

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Speaker 4: Me the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets

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Speaker 4: of black conspiracy theories, and.

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Speaker 1: We finally work to prove whatever the fuck you got

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Speaker 1: going on. If it's a lie, we believe it and

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Speaker 1: we'll uh sell it.

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Speaker 2: TMU dot com will pitch it out to the world.

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Speaker 4: We gotta get sponsored by people. I know, we talked

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I because I don't I don't need. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think the good ones always make

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Speaker 1: you feel icky in some regard because you go like,

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Speaker 4: Bags, That's what I'm saying. Some real buy some ice

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Speaker 4: cube trays on team. It won't come for six months.

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Speaker 4: I want what I endure.

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Speaker 1: We want a company that sells switchblades. That's all y'all do.

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Speaker 4: What color would your switch be? I gotta talk to the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're thinking too limited because you might

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Where you get options that you didn't even realize were

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Speaker 1: Are you out here being you know mean, making guesses

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Speaker 4: You got me? You got me? I didn't think about

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Speaker 1: Come on, gators can't switchblade.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, man, would you ever?

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Speaker 4: What's the most exotic animal you would wear on your back?

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Speaker 1: This is why we warned you.

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Speaker 4: This is what I can do.

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Speaker 1: No, this is.

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Speaker 2: We will know. We plan to.

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Speaker 1: We're so sorry our guests today. No, we have to

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Speaker 4: It's like every time I'm trying to show a woman

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Speaker 4: You No, we all watched making the band. We loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was you got a shirt.

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Speaker 4: It was away from that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So just like we love a Lee and we can't

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Speaker 4: His name is a j.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did y'all know?

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Speaker 1: Did y'all know those were wigs the entire time?

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Speaker 2: That blew my mind. I found out a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: I did not know that, but why we don't think

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Speaker 2: Theory that should have been on the list was high.

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Speaker 3: You know, Brandy Almo, he was wearing bright wigs, wow wigs,

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Speaker 2: But whoever was whoever did AJ's dread wigs was ahead

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Speaker 1: That was gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: The girls are just getting that lace technology now. No, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a conspiracy he had before Beyonce.

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Speaker 4: Man, where did he get it?

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Speaker 2: Where did he go was doing? Hey don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they looked anything. No, we have

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Speaker 2: That's what I say, and we don't validate. You get

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Speaker 10: No, we ain't got no goddamn lot. Take the take

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Speaker 2: You don't address this is in the name hiring people

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Speaker 9: Like, what it is chasing the check like nigga, calm down.

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Speaker 3: Tough boyfriend, but she was up to you be this

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Speaker 3: no you know, thank god that that happened in that time,

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it in two thousand and one?

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Speaker 4: I believe think because it.

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Speaker 4: Who wasn't when.

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00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: Some of us.

449
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Hold on what some of us grew up in the

450
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: middle of the country and didn't know what not eleven meant?

451
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: Did you come get you out of school?

452
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 6: No?

453
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: Something out of school? Were you in New York?

454
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: No?

455
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 2: I was.

456
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: My mom came to my middle school. She got me

457
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: out of school. And then because the nannies always watched

458
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 3: like this, yes, so we were watching like mon okay

459
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: everything I was not.

460
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: She was like, my nanny didn't come. He still hasn't

461
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: a school.

462
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: Shows up.

463
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: I was like, but so y'all were bumping the blueprint like.

464
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: Just the point the point I was making it is

465
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: more that uh. In in Chicago, I didn't grow up

466
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: with the sense of what the Twin Towers were way.

467
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: It was like an a you know, planes that crashed

468
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: into the Twin Towers, and they made a big deal

469
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: about it at school. But it wasn't until I got

470
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: home and watched video of it that I got a

471
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: sense of the scale of what this magnitude. To me,

472
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: this just felt like, okay, well, two buildings whatever the.

473
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: First and then I got home in my my mom

474
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: and my stepdad were home because and they canceled football practice,

475
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: and then I was like, oh, I guess this is

476
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 4: a big deal. And then my parents were and I

477
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, school. Yeah.

478
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: A girl in my class started crying when they gave

479
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: the news, and I looked back like bitch, stop Like I.

480
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 6: Was really but I didn't get it, you know what

481
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, yeah, I was just a mean boy.

482
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 6: I saw weakness and a person and I wanted to

483
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 6: take it down.

484
00:24:48,760 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 11: You were like, was like, you grab at the towns.

485
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, there's like Oklahoma City bombings.

486
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: There's no way y'all were sitting back like better take

487
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: my head off.

488
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 6: Now.

489
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: There were just things that happened before these moments where

490
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: you go like, no, I know that's fucked up, but

491
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist for me.

492
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: Even what you mean.

493
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: I love that you had that childhood because I was

494
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: watching the news all the time. My grand had me

495
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: on that Dateline ship like I should be like, if

496
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: a man tries to grab you, like you gotta check

497
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: it off. You just stick your arms out like this

498
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: and keep running.

499
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: So grab a boy jacket, you got ship.

500
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, activated.

501
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: I grew up with all types of paranoias.

502
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: That's literally why my book starts with I went missing

503
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: when I was five l L Like my grandma had

504
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: me on the Daylight ship heavy, so I was watching

505
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: like I was watching news.

506
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: Too, because that is like propaganda b news.

507
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of Dayline, then a lot

508
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. But I think the scale of nine

509
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: to eleven is so large that it stops being people.

510
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? To be numbers?

511
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: And then it's like once you start to see photos

512
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: and you see the missing signs or whatever. But the

513
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 3: initial news of it, especially at our ages at the time,

514
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: I could see being like, oh, I don't know what

515
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: this is, just like a global towers fell.

516
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: I also didn't understand the magnitude of New York of Manhattan.

517
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 4: I like the.

518
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: Population didn't say you was there, like you're young.

519
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: It's like I just remember a girl in my like

520
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 4: history class being like, are we going to.

521
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Go to war?

522
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: And I was like, shut up, I'm the girl. It

523
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: was very I was very u war, very young, very

524
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: very young.

525
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: It was about it was about the war.

526
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: He wasn't just she was like, she really upset me.

527
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: She was like, are we going to go to war?

528
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, because I'm from sier Leon already,

529
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 4: Like I was like, that's like the worst.

530
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: That really scared you.

531
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, okay, that's what I mean. Boy you I

532
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: mean blake.

533
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: That's why we get along, means boys lazy. Before we

534
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: take this break, and we do need to take a break,

535
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: my question for you is how much, on a scale

536
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: of one to ten, let's start, are you fully believing

537
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: the possibility that this day had a Leah killed.

538
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to rest at a solid seven.

539
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you're you're pretty far into this.

540
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm into the lore. We'll get into it.

541
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna take a break. Seven.

542
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: You yeah, what are you?

543
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think I'm I think I'm

544
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: comfortably near a seven. I think I probably would put

545
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: myself closer in the sixth range, but I it six

546
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: feels cowardly next to seven, so I'm gonna say seven.

547
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: I'll lock you with you at seven and on.

548
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: My shoulder leaning down the scale.

549
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: More than I am.

550
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Where are you?

551
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: I am one million?

552
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Are right back? Then?

553
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: No, I'm probably like, I'm honestly pretty neutral on it.

554
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever suspected foul play in the

555
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: death itself, so I think I'm probably closer to a four. Okay,

556
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: Like when it happened, I don't think I was like,

557
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: I don't think I was like they got her, you

558
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

559
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I feel like almost like not to conflate

560
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: the two, but like how long she was saying about

561
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: like nine to eleven being a child and not understanding

562
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: the scope until he was like older. I didn't think

563
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: immediately when I saw that there was an accident with

564
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: the plane crash with a leah, that it was like, oh,

565
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: they got her, like we knew they was after her,

566
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, I was a kidd. But then I was

567
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: like I older, I know, people started flowing stuff around,

568
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: you know. My negro Shun though, was.

569
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 4: Like okay, yeah, I mean, I will say even at

570
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: the time the Aliah death was bigger than me than

571
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: nine to eleven.

572
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, list, I feel like that's also like you're pin

573
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: twenty one person.

574
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: You know you've seen this person a lot, versus like

575
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: hearing statistics on the news, which can feel like not

576
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: human until you know you start really seeing.

577
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't. I don't want to like not

578
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: to love a shame, no worry.

579
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: Y'all are children. We're all children. So yeah, little mean boys.

580
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: We're a little mean boys.

581
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: I was like fourteen, pretty much a man still, but

582
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: it was that ship was coming back Bendred Fountain.

583
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

584
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back

585
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: with more Lacey, mostly more. My mama told me.

586
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gay, no more, I am desired.

587
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

588
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 7: cut America's meet.

589
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: That's dead on that, that's dead on that. We keep

590
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: the whole sausage over here. My mama told me, we

591
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: don't cut no meat. We are back supposedly, and we

592
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: are talking about Aliyah.

593
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Aliyah. So one of the things that I found own

594
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: as a sort of jumpstart for this this conversation. I'll

595
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: prompt a few things and you will tell me where

596
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you land in your agreement disagreement with this. But there

597
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: are some people who believe that Beyonce, jay Z, and

598
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: Puffy are sort of in unison responsible for Aliah's death. Okay,

599
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: the conspiracy goes, and this has gained quite a bit

600
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: of traction on TikTok apparently, But there are some who

601
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: speculate that jay Z and Beyonce in particular were responsible

602
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: for killing Aliyah, and that the background music for Jake

603
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Coles she Knows was actually jay Z Sean Knowles. Basically

604
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: that instead of she knows, they're saying Sean Knowles, implying

605
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: that that Jake Coles somehow has like inside track by

606
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: the fact that last name exactly this sort of like

607
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: combo of the two. Others believe it could be a

608
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: reference to Sean for Sean Diddy Combs, Sean Combs. I

609
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: think it's the the implication, Now, why Jake Cole somehow

610
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: is sort of making this.

611
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then why would he make a secret song.

612
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a whimsical deep light skin, so maybe

613
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: he has some kind of tept in voodoo who do

614
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: that song?

615
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Actually?

616
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: She does, like there's some kind of a magic around them,

617
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: around the light skins.

618
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: I feel like.

619
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: If we're talking about the creoles, yeah, because you know

620
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: they'd be down like the voodoo in Louisiana.

621
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: But you're saying a regular old light myself, no magic.

622
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: Ready be doing the magic.

623
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: But you might be tied tied to the magic though,

624
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: because you know, like all the black people ended up

625
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: in Chicago from the Great Migration from the South, you.

626
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Know, we might be able to source it back to

627
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: the who doo.

628
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: But I have heard this one about Beyonce weirdly enough,

629
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: like one of my older aunts would say that, and

630
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: I was like, you don't say that Beyonce did not have.

631
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: A Liah kill. She was like she did, and she

632
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: was like, I love her, and she did. I was like,

633
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: I love Beyonza.

634
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Air y'all not gonna catch me talking about Mike Wings.

635
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: So that's absolutely zero for me, absolutely not.

636
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Why why specifically did your aunt believe Beyonce to have

637
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: murdered Aliyah?

638
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think it's the same thing

639
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: in music when you see like rappers like I'm not

640
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: gonna say that one lady name because her fans are

641
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: unemployed and evil, but you know that one lady with

642
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: the horrible fans and all the other rapper girlies. It's like,

643
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: for some reason, our industry is always just like there

644
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: can only be one thing.

645
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: So I feel like a lot.

646
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: Of people look at Beyonce's career and compare it to

647
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: like when she was just breaking out of Destiny's Child

648
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: and thinking like, oh well, and Leah would have all

649
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: that stuff that Beyonce got if she was alive, And

650
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: it's like one person can't do all the jobs and

651
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: have all the songs and do all the things.

652
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: So byes, I would have been Beyonce regardless she was born.

653
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Beyonce the woman was.

654
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: I learned how to like sing from musical theater, for

655
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: learning from Matthew Knowles, like he had him girls on

656
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: the treadmill singing.

657
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Do you know how hardest to sing and run? That's

658
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: how you get best control, like she was always on BBS.

659
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: It's very hard.

660
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: So but because people like to find a reason to

661
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: hate on her, and she don't talk to us no more,

662
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: which shout out to her, I need to stop talking.

663
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm the damage done. The damage is done.

664
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Well, if you were planning on stopping, you shouldn't have

665
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: come here today.

666
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what all my lawyer after this? I have the

667
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: same lawyer to good play.

668
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be reasonable.

669
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

670
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: It's not going I did.

671
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: See this is what's wrong. I'm just like the Apollo

672
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: and now I'm over here.

673
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: Coop did something to me, but I think rub it no,

674
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: but I think they was just hating on Beyonce.

675
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that one.

676
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm not going to rule Puffy out of it, but

677
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: I don't think jay Z would be ace.

678
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: We're trying to get Aliah murder.

679
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: Okay. Just my question would be if I had to

680
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: pick two out of those three or what what stakes

681
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: did Puffy have in it versus.

682
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: That I've never understood? And that's what I really clear

683
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: about it.

684
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: And he wasn't he was a late she was boy

685
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: and then once did he did all this stuff, they

686
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: added him to put more credence to the claim.

687
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 1: Right, the general sort of like explanation, and I find

688
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: it to be a lazy one. Is that Diddy is

689
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: is the is hip hop's Jeffrey Epstein and that like

690
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: he is sort of like the curator of all sort

691
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: of like bad behavior and pedophilia and ship and in

692
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that way would would be like chess playing chess with

693
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: lives above us.

694
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think there's another man that we

695
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: look to directly involved with the leah for playing that game,

696
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: righting z No.

697
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: R Kelly, Yeah, R Kelly. I don't know has ever

698
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: amassed any real power.

699
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: And I don't even think it's because he didn't a

700
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: mass power. He was very prevalent in the industry. I

701
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: think it's because, I mean, obviously we knew that it

702
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: could read, like so people who can't read, we don't

703
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: really think of them as masterminds. I think like one

704
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: of the pri mister mine is like you have to

705
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: be able to like read. He was a genius. But

706
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: it's like you can't really be doing like subterfuge if

707
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: you can't you know, uh, read a for syllable word.

708
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: You can't.

709
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't want to be here.

710
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: That's not it.

711
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: That's not.

712
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: To send me.

713
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: We don't know, ya.

714
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

715
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 12: Wow, you don't validate by want to say for it yourself.

716
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: Basically when second part we could validate, we're choosing not to.

717
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: If you leave early, that's on you. You make your choice.

718
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, I think.

719
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: I think ultimately, what it's suggesting is that ur Rather,

720
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: what I'm suggesting is that did he has a master

721
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: level of like money and influence that we never actually

722
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: saw with R.

723
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: Kelly.

724
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Like R Kelly certainly had the ear of the people

725
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: at a time, but it was never like nobody was

726
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: like and the five hundredth richest man in the world

727
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Robert Kelly, Like he seemed like he mismanaged money the

728
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: whole way through it.

729
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean, No, I agree with you.

730
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: And also, I mean he was so dumb that every

731
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: crime he did he did out loud. Like you know,

732
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: we all know about like the gross relationship he had

733
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: with so many young women grou.

734
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he wrote hello creepy ass songs.

735
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: He was literally just being like, I'm a nasty creepy man,

736
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: but the beat would be so good.

737
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, nasty.

738
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: Man, I like.

739
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a good song.

740
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: He was sitting on the couch with her, and you

741
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: know what, like talk shows and ship like he out loud.

742
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: They were loud with it, but the timing of it

743
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: was like, we hate women, so we too busy to

744
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: look at this man and thank god we're past that.

745
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: We're so.

746
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: We were a young girl where we were wed. I

747
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: think that creeping men being gone is good for men

748
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: and women.

749
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the one Yeah I wasn't stolen valid

750
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: at all. Friends off the streets, honest, I want to

751
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: be clear, it's not fixed at all.

752
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: It's not.

753
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: If anybody at home was starting to misread this.

754
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: Uh, media literacy is gone.

755
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: I hope that was hate what you have to say.

756
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: It's a joke now, my god, damns, nothing is read

757
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 3: no more.

758
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: Remember when we could just come on here and say

759
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: some crazy ship we didn't mean.

760
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Much like And this is another reason I want to

761
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: say it's not there's stories about Beyonce where like she's

762
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: been in situations that have become compromising that had nothing

763
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: to do with her, you know, and she would be like, okay,

764
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: we got to leave, like literally hopping the car and

765
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: go like y or something image conscious. Yeah, anything that

766
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: looks shady like she was not about to be up

767
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: and under or around that, and I don't see her

768
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: as like she's so busy.

769
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't see anybody.

770
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 4: I don't see that get down at all. And I think,

771
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: I think, like.

772
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: But I've heard it.

773
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: It takes for success, working really hard, spreading on a treadmill, singing.

774
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 4: That makes sense to me that killing taking somebody out, doesn't.

775
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: I feel like she wants to get it the right

776
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: way to like she wants to be like, no, I'm

777
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: better than you all.

778
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Now. While I while I don't disagree with you all,

779
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: I think I tend to agree with where you're at.

780
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear. I'm curious to hear how you

781
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: all address the jay Z of the conversation. Because we've

782
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: covered Diddy, we've covered Beyonce, everybody seems to be skipping

783
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: past the jay Z and jay Z as we well know,

784
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: met Beyonce very young, began a relationship with her at

785
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: a arguably illegal age.

786
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: Light.

787
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: I wan't have to turn my chair around like the voice.

788
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Look, I'm just providing information that's been provided for me.

789
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: You know what, man, this podcast can get so much

790
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: from today.

791
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: This is what they said I was.

792
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: I will say that had had a pre existing relationship

793
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: with the Leo also when she was very young.

794
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: But I always heard that he wanted to be with her,

795
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 2: but she was with she.

796
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: Was dating Dame Dash in a public Also, jay Z's age, right.

797
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying, okay.

798
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Is teath fell out of his head the other day?

799
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: Come on, man, can we just have one man that

800
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: I looked up to in my teens with his teeth?

801
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 4: Can we just have one boy? Boy?

802
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: The whole tea fell out? So yeah, he shouldn't have

803
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: dated a Leah. But the point is the point is

804
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: I am curious to know where you all stand in

805
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: the jay Z conspiracy, whether you believe it or don't

806
00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: believe the.

807
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: If we're speaking conspiracy wise, I would assume that the

808
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: play was probably to do the same thing with Aliyah

809
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: and it just didn't work out. So it seems like

810
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: he just focused his attention or something, right.

811
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: Like, I don't what do you mean do the same thing?

812
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: I think it was probably like, hey, me and you,

813
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: you're all young, and then we come we become this

814
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 4: great thing.

815
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: Like like like like building a power.

816
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but I don't think that

817
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: that I don't think that that led to him like

818
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: trying to get her killed.

819
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Listen, that's reltigious.

820
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: But I will say that I have heard that theory

821
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: a lot. There's a lot of theories around j Cole.

822
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: She knows songs that have to do with other conspiracy

823
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: theories as well. Because of the sample track this in

824
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: the bag, I forget who the actual song is by,

825
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: But I've actually heard the original song and it's a

826
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: little more like demonic sounding and slower.

827
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's such a great beat underneath.

828
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: But you know, black folks, anything with the children seeing

829
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: in a spooky way, they were like, that's the devil,

830
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: you know, you know they up in the illuminati. I'm like,

831
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you if there is an illuminati,

832
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: I have not gotten there yet, and I've really been looking.

833
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, how many jobs I have to do before

834
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: I get invited to like a mast?

835
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: Like, how many more have to be sacrificed for you

836
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: to get your seat at the table. She is alive,

837
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: says you, I don't.

838
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 3: Know, like my Instagram pamas all the time? Okay a Spanish?

839
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: It stands out, how do you say blinking Spanish?

840
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, I do not remember.

841
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Now, let's let's talk a little bit about Aliah's official death.

842
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: She dies in a plane crash leaving the Bahamas. Yes,

843
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: they were in the Bahamas. They're leaving. She takes off,

844
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: There are eight people on the plane. They make it

845
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: two hundred feet off of the runway before they eventually crashed.

846
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: She is said to have died of like a head

847
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: injury and then burned severe like burned. Five of the

848
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: eight people die instantly. Three people survive but then die

849
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: like a week later. She was like twenty.

850
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: Something, Yeah, well why is looking at that? What always

851
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: struck me as odd?

852
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Two?

853
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it struck me really odd because one, they had

854
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: just shot another music video in Miami and then they

855
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: were flying to shoot that one. Apparently it was like

856
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: like a dancer just came out and did an interview

857
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: about this like this week. So she was dancing like

858
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: with them, because Lea wasn't on the plane with all

859
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: the dancers. Like there were multiple tiny planes that they

860
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 3: took to the Bahamas. Yeah, and she said she remember

861
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: walking up to the plane and being like what is

862
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: this Like Like I guess it was like, you know,

863
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: small and kind of like a little rinkinging, but it

864
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: was like multiple little planes and when they went to

865
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: the Bahamas to shoot there. Like when they were leaving,

866
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: they were trying to rush her to get back to

867
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: the States because they had, you know, some kind of

868
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: impending you know how it is.

869
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: It's like go go go. When you're a young music artist,

870
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: they are gonna hold you.

871
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: They're like, you got all the energy, yoursels are regenerating

872
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 3: every night. Then you about to work from dusk till

873
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: dam Okay, So the.

874
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: Younger in the industry, I understand.

875
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Listen another club plane.

876
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: So then so they were trying to rush her to

877
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: get back and she was like, I don't want to

878
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: get on this plane and the pilot and this is

879
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: where I don't understand because we are black, And I know,

880
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: maybe once you get the music industry into it and

881
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 3: you're rich and famous and it's go, go go, maybe

882
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: you start to take more risks. But if a pilot

883
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: ever told me the plane was too heavy, Oh you're

884
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: not getting my black ass on that plane. Yeah, that

885
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: seems like, I'm sorry, any any type of doubt you

886
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: have about flying. And these days the plane's coming apart,

887
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: so damn bad. I see black folks walking onto the plane,

888
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: like touching the size of the ship.

889
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Before they walk onto the plane.

890
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: You know, I have never seen more people read a

891
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: safety manual on a commercial flight than like, after what

892
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: happened in DC, happened with that. All your lines now

893
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: except for Spirit that's the one who's playing.

894
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: Crash out in the sky.

895
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: They were like, hey, we might be in trouble.

896
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: They don't crash on the ground, They crash out in

897
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: the sky and they land safely. Okay, But these days,

898
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: you know, a smooth takeoff and landing are not guaranteed.

899
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: You really be like hoping it comes back down to

900
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 2: the ground.

901
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: To your point, I think there are a fair amount

902
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: of examples, at least in reading, of people being like, hey,

903
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: this plane is not safe for travel, Like it wasn't

904
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: just like oh, she took off because she wanted to go.

905
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Multiple people were like, hey, this plane is a problem.

906
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: And then the production and the everybody else around her

907
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: can being like, nah, we gotta go, we gotta go,

908
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: we gotta go, we gotta go.

909
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: I read a bunch and I don't know if this

910
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: is true. Obviously this is a conspiracy theory, but I

911
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: read a bunch of that. They gave her a sentatives

912
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: like to get.

913
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: In and relax on the plane.

914
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 4: But if it only got two hundred feet, well, but it.

915
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: Was it was yeah, before takeoff, like she did not

916
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: want to get on that plane. Is what has been

917
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: a testimony that has been consistent, you know, for twenty

918
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: years twenty some years now, And personally I heard at

919
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: one point that there was like equipment on the plane

920
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: as well, or there's something that was weighing the plane down.

921
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: The plane was just too heavy, I don't know.

922
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Seven hundred pounds overweight, yeah, and what it could actually carry.

923
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: And they they blamed it on the passengers and their

924
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: baggage because I think something happened with the original flight

925
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: that they were a plane that they were supposed to take,

926
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: and then they substituted it with a smaller plane than

927
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: even the original one, and then that one was way

928
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: overweight and they had too much shit or they it

929
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: was something either that or it was like they needed

930
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: more people on it than they previously had. Point being

931
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds overweight, plane falls off the sky instantly, Yeah.

932
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: It was. It was a fucking mess.

933
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: But that always blew me though, because I'm like, this

934
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: is like your precious artist, and like you're throwing them

935
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 3: on a plane that I'm sorry. Anybody who's operating anything

936
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: motor wise. You could tell me a motor school you're like, oh,

937
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: it's not really safe. I'm not getting on it. You

938
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: can give me two roll to blades and be like,

939
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't know one of the wheels. Kind of funny,

940
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: I'd be like, great, I'm gonna walk like I'm not

941
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: getting in any motor transportation. That someone who is an

942
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: expert in that field was like, I don't think we

943
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: should do this. So and that's the one thing of

944
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: the arrogance of being rich that I've never understood is like, Okay,

945
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: you need everything so immediate.

946
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't need anything so immediate that I'm finna die.

947
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I just imagine that I'm dead, so I don't

948
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 3: have to do things I don't want to do, like obligacious.

949
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't do that for true.

950
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm not like I'm too busy to live as.

951
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: If I was rich, if I made it to being

952
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: super wealthy, I would I would probably be pretty reckless.

953
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: I believe in God and all that I'm rich. What

954
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: are the odds that I got here?

955
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: Which I am the later I should be able to be?

956
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: You were you really locked into that right away.

957
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: That is that is that is profound, that's that is

958
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: prom that's like everything that we've spent our.

959
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: Lives being mad at. And you're like, nah, it makes

960
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: sense to me. As soon as it's my opportunity, I'm

961
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, I'm gonna love that.

962
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, I only have enough money or you know,

963
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: success to be like seven minutes late.

964
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: They're gonna say you were pretty good.

965
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: Actually I actually was here. I was three minutes late,

966
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: but then it was like I was trying to get in.

967
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like seven minutes is all you can really

968
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: do where I am in life, because like tenn is

969
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: too much. Just like what is your problem? You know,

970
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: like there's not enough lateness for me.

971
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: You don't feel like you get in Los Angeles. I

972
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: feel like Los Angeles you get a flat.

973
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: See. I want to still be seen as professional.

974
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: So if you get attend, then people are like, wow,

975
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: they come at ten minutes late, seven, they're not really looking.

976
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: And by the time they look, you can pretinue already

977
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: in a building for at least two minutes, So then

978
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: it turns into five comes down to five minutes when

979
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: they show up. Anyway, anyway, like you like, oh, let

980
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: me run to the restroom you needed sometimes not in

981
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: your mind, I was on time.

982
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, it was that black math for time.

983
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: Actually Okay, no.

984
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Okay, so those are shady, Okay,

985
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: yeah it was.

986
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 4: He's really talented. He does a lot with his voice.

987
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: He's like, moving on, moving on.

988
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: So you it sounds like neither of you are very

989
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: sold on the possibility that that there were any that

990
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: jay Z Beyonce or did he worthy the day? The

991
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: Ultimate days? I think it was a tragic for this,

992
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I really do you lean close to the tragic accident? Now, Lacey,

993
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: before we go to this last break and get into

994
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: the voicemail, my question for you is you you started

995
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: here at seven. That's how you introduced yourself to us.

996
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Who represents the seven in that day? If it ain't

997
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: jay Z Beyonce did. And it sounds like you're also

998
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: not saying r Kelly because you didn't believe him to

999
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: be bright enough.

1000
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: Dump it's weird and bad. Sorry, you're not even the

1001
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: contention much for Brain's bitch, you're not gonna read? Okay,

1002
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: you could kill a bitch with a air.

1003
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 8: Wow.

1004
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: Not eleven likes to came out again. Wow, that one goes.

1005
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 4: On for longer than I. Wow.

1006
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: Wow, now did you learn something?

1007
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some other people who were maybe familiarly

1008
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: involved in her finance and her music and.

1009
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: Still are Wow.

1010
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: Your parents, you know how your parents?

1011
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: We have a siblings, her uncle, I say that is certainly,

1012
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I merely and I'm going to finish. Her uncle is

1013
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: a problematic figure in the the history of Aliyah. He

1014
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: is uh, the one who held up her music for

1015
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: a long time, who got the rights to her music,

1016
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I believe.

1017
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: And was like, sort of where are her parents?

1018
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: I think her uncle was her manager at one.

1019
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: Point something like that. He was involved, Like.

1020
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: People weren't taking care of her like they should just

1021
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: even to be as young as she was involved, Like

1022
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: if it always felt like where a.

1023
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: Family member be like an assistant who comes with me

1024
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: everywhere when its coming.

1025
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: We were in the musical industry before you were You're

1026
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: not gonna yeah.

1027
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: But also you're just coming everywhere with you. It's like, then,

1028
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: why is R Kelly warning a fucking.

1029
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: They weren't going everywhere on them tour buses and stuff.

1030
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: They were not there.

1031
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that I would argue that

1032
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: that's also a type of complicit Oh.

1033
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's beyond I would say.

1034
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: At that point they were like, you're the same as

1035
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: him to me, which is why I didn't understand in

1036
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: the first iteration of that documentary surviving that illiterate, creepy

1037
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: raping man, that they.

1038
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Had a guy who was like his main guy who.

1039
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 3: Was in it, like one of his security or something,

1040
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: the one who actually forged the birth certificate for Elia

1041
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 3: so that they could get married.

1042
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: He didn't have He wasn't behind tho like black curtain hid.

1043
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 11: In a voice alteration, who was sitting here in four

1044
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 11: K just telling these stories like he STI didn't realize.

1045
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you need to be in prison. Like,

1046
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: are we documentary.

1047
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: Say you weren't the one? People really let that slide?

1048
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, memes of him? We were like, sorry you saw memes?

1049
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: What did you see? Accountability?

1050
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: Because I feel like that's regularly documentaries about terrible people.

1051
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 4: They'll be like, and I don't know what I was doing,

1052
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: and I you know what I mean.

1053
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: I know, have y'all ever seen and we need to

1054
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: throw to this second break, but but have y'all ever

1055
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: seen abducted in plain sight.

1056
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1057
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the most insane documentaries I've ever

1058
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: seen in my life, where it basically is about this

1059
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: this family and a neighbor who they allow you met

1060
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the lady.

1061
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: I met the lady I podcast.

1062
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: Oh well no, no, we don't get that dark over there.

1063
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: But I was at the New York magazine. I did

1064
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: a condinast interview for her because they made it a

1065
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: television show, and so she was there and I was

1066
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: there with the cast interviewing all of them.

1067
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: But I spent some time talking to her.

1068
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she she essentially strikes up the neighbor. She's

1069
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: like ten. The neighbor strikes up a relationship with her,

1070
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: even though there's like ten kids in the house.

1071
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: And he got kids too. The neighbor got kids too.

1072
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: He just starts hanging out with this little kid to

1073
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: the point that she's having independent sleepovers at this man's house.

1074
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: He's coming and sleeping at their house to be with

1075
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: the child, and the parents are fully aware of it

1076
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: the entire time. And after years of her them being

1077
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: brainwashed and then abducted and like kept from her family

1078
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: and then eventually released back to her family, the mom

1079
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: had the audacity to write a book to be like, yo,

1080
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: I too was suffering through this.

1081
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, the mom was looking up with.

1082
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: The dad was the man. It was crazy.

1083
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad and him had like a little diddling session,

1084
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: but the mom is yeah, it was like a yeah,

1085
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: it was like yeah.

1086
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: But the way that it happens is like slow and insidious.

1087
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: And the creepy man also had children, so it's kind

1088
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: of like he would be under the guys like oh,

1089
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: sleepovers with the kids. And it was a very religious town.

1090
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: All the girls in the charge to know each other,

1091
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: so it was very like, you know, it was weird.

1092
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: But that back to your point of R. Kelly, you know,

1093
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: talking about like how that happens in front of your face,

1094
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: like imagine that creepy ass man. But then let's add

1095
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: R Kelly spam and money to that. Of course he

1096
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: was able to, like, you know, do all that ship

1097
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: because people will, you know, it's a lot of ship

1098
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: when they're trying to.

1099
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: Look if my neighbor could make I wish, I don't

1100
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: know what they could do to my kids, it would

1101
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: terrify me.

1102
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, officer, he's right, anything could happen.

1103
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: This nigga said.

1104
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Which is.

1105
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm joking.

1106
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 12: My kids are saying, I'm gonna take care of you babies.

1107
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 12: We need to take what we need to take. One

1108
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 12: more break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back with more, Lacy, mostly more.

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Speaker 5: My mama told me, and Boom goes to dynamite.

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Speaker 4: We are back.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say more. You're just like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're back. Oh yeah, I'm not very good at it.

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Speaker 1: Still okay, Well we're back here with Lacy. We're still

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Speaker 1: discussing the possibility that a that a royal day God

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: got Aliyah, and specifically, it seems like you've landed on

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Speaker 1: an argument for yourself. Yes, in a familial sense, a

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Speaker 1: familial day, familial day. I I we we'd like to

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Speaker 1: maybe listen to a fan Voicemaian together. This is the

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Speaker 1: first time we're ever doing this with the guests, so

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00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: we have no idea how this is gonna go. It's

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00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: a new cigarette and we're calling it. I thought something

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00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: was gonna come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping because I'm not really prepared.

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you just like, do you ever let

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 4: your charm felt this movement? I was that was that's panicky.

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Speaker 1: It's the second I thought of it. I thought of it.

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Speaker 1: It's a segment called Yo Mama.

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Speaker 2: Calling and uh we we all sun up a bitch.

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Speaker 1: Like on the phone. Uh yeah, I like your mama

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Here we go. H this is a

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00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: voicemail you've heard. I haven't heard it. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: enjoy it.

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00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it either.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want the.

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Speaker 2: Check in, d say, I'm jerking off.

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00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm joking, David.

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Speaker 2: Why would you have because I hear that nobody else

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: wanted to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 4: That is my fucking house, nobody's corners jerking off?

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00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 3: Would you make us play with there'd be more to it?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: I mean I could pick another one. It's just what

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Speaker 4: do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I didn't like it. You thought

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Speaker 2: was gonna be I love it.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I needed to not be there. He did

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Speaker 4: not be the only one inside it.

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00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: It was my first time doing this segment, and.

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00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: Then I was worried that I was worried that maybe

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: I was over I thought that I was over judging

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00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: this person. We kind of thought you guys were going

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: to be like, oh, I don't think he's jacking off.

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: Why would he lie?

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: I don't know that.

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00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: I did listen that, Like I heard him kind of

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Speaker 2: singing it, but it was so low and breathy.

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Speaker 4: Why I think he was.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know it's real.

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Speaker 2: But what was he doing that for y'all? Like for y'all,

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Speaker 2: I had nobody.

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Speaker 4: To unpack it with. Girl doesn't want to hear it,

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Speaker 4: So you take it to me.

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Speaker 2: You took it to me.

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Speaker 4: I said, you a lot of stuff I don't send

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Speaker 4: to my girl. Likeston, I'm sorry you caught astray.

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Speaker 2: It was more than one bullet.

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Speaker 4: Wanted blessed me and go that way. I just really

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: wanted it to be a p s A. Also to

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Speaker 4: don't do that. Please, don't you got to stop doing that.

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Speaker 2: I've got to stop. Are there more of that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have not heard that, but we

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Speaker 1: certainly don't want to encourage that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it though, I feel like aaring it is encouraged.

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Speaker 4: You think that's what he wanted. I don't think you.

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Speaker 1: Bet he didn't want that in anonymity. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think he wanted to know you heard it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you did, because I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: for me.

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: Now you're going to get so many at least pick

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Speaker 2: different songs to parody. Yeah, I thought that was.

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Speaker 4: The best part about it. I thought it was an

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Speaker 4: okay song.

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Speaker 2: So you liked that part.

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Speaker 4: I like that song, you like, I don't want to know.

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Speaker 4: You never just do that around the house, Grosber. You

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00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: could do that with so many things. I'm making rice

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Speaker 4: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's like good a placeholder song, lazy. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that another voicemail is going to solve our problems. You

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Speaker 1: you joined us today and I think it was a

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Speaker 1: great episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I thought that it was going

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Speaker 4: to go on. I don't know what I thought was

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Speaker 4: gonna happen to be completely.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know up at all, like I thought. He

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, it's a really interesting voicemail, like.

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Speaker 4: It was, think about it.

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Speaker 2: You played it, you want to think about that to

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Speaker 2: come up.

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: You're you're gonna be making Rice rice and.

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Speaker 2: I'm jacking out. Now we're not going to sing. I'm

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Speaker 2: jacking out.

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00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't there's not really anything to jack tomically. The

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Speaker 3: diddle situation for DJ Yeah, I don't call it diddle.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Be a fun word. I don't think. I think it's always.

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Speaker 2: I think you don't get to get away with that one.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 4: When I was in school, we used to do.

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Speaker 1: Ma'am.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what what awful people raised you. But no, ma'am,

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Speaker 2: I don't put that. She don't say the words. I've

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Speaker 2: lost so much during this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lacy, can't you tell the people where they can

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Speaker 1: find you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me A D I D A

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Speaker 2: L A C I D Lacy on all latforms.

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Speaker 3: You can find my podcast all about comedy, robbery, fraud,

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Speaker 3: Scam Goddess anywhere you get your podcast, and you can

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Speaker 3: read my books Scam Goddess. There's an audiobook available anywhere

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Speaker 3: you get audio books, and the hard copy books are

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Speaker 3: also available.

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Speaker 2: Scam Goddess.

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Speaker 3: You wilar my memoir that's also pair of my favorite

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Speaker 3: true crime and it's all about robberies.

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Speaker 2: Watch cam Is on Hulu and also watch Going Dutch

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Speaker 2: on Hulu.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, it's great. Most people don't have ship.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I get my audio books on Audible. Yeah I think

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Speaker 4: they're robbing me.

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Speaker 2: No, we're not.

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Speaker 4: No audibles. Cool, you don't feel like sometimes you're like

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Speaker 4: why you got so many credits. I don't feel like

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Speaker 4: I paid subscription.

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Speaker 2: Audible is like a family member.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, that's just they're worried about you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. They said.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna hit you up. Audible always gonna hit you up.

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Speaker 1: You know, find a way to hit me up, even

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Speaker 1: after I've been like Domino's, please stop.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like it's probably done more help than

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Speaker 3: the suicide Highlight because they really been hitting people up.

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Speaker 2: They're like you hungry Bay, when you feel low, we

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Speaker 2: feel low. They're like Domino's, we're here, we got a

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Speaker 2: new cheesy crust.

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Speaker 1: We got you, and it's not it's the same.

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Speaker 2: They said they never had the cheesy crust.

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Speaker 4: I know, but it takes the inside, y'all, y'all ate it.

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Speaker 1: Domino is well.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory had the cheesy crist.

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Speaker 1: Listen by Papa John's. I believe Domino. I believe Domino

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Speaker 1: is the finest pizza ever made. I'm a big fan. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's phenomenal, the finest pizza

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Speaker 1: ever made. I'm willing to stand on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna put one foot on it. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: can't quite stand on.

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Speaker 1: The Dominos is perfect pizzas as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: But but I also recognized that Dominos is perfect pizza

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Speaker 1: in the way that I think that like smut is

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Speaker 1: like perfect, do you know what I mean? Like it's

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: this like nasty things are are perfect. You're just just

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Speaker 1: the vileness of the human experience is what makes it human.

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Speaker 1: And that is why I like Dominoes. It is just

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Speaker 1: like the most base desires mashed together for my eating.

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Speaker 1: It is not a fine product. It is just the

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Speaker 1: essence of everything that pleases.

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Speaker 4: He's too good at talking.

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Speaker 9: It tastes, tastes.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It was I feel like an unk just like appear.

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Speaker 4: I like an just appeared midair. I don't know we

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Speaker 4: were not No, thank you say it again? Yeah, oh

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Speaker 4: but say it to the cameras, say y'all, I'm not unk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 7: If you hate cops just because of cops, I next

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Speaker 7: time you get in trouble, carad cool.

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Speaker 4: Guy joke, Sady seven, Come see me in Dallas The

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Speaker 4: Dallas Comedy Club, April twenty fifth and twenty six, June fourteenth, fifteenth,

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Speaker 4: June fifteenth, I'm gonna be a little Field Brooklyn New

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Speaker 4: York come out. That's gonna be really fun. Patreon dot combat,

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Speaker 4: slash David Borie by my specialist is good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and follow me on Langston Kerman on all

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Speaker 1: social media platforms. You can see my special's call bab Poetry.

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: It's on Netflix. You can watch Everybody's Live with John

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Speaker 1: Mulaney on Netflix every Wednesday at seven pm Pacific. Uh

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a really fun show that I'm happy

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: to be a part of. Uh And and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you can send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories.

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: If you want to tell us Dolores is whereabout? Send

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Speaker 1: it all to my Mama pod at gmail dot com.

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,440
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Speaker 1: off at us no more? We do not like this

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Speaker 1: pussy bye bitch.

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Speaker 1: My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's

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Speaker 4: Executive produced by Will Farrell Hansani and Olivia Akilon.

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Speaker 1: Co produced by Bee Wayne, edited and engineered by Justin Kommon,

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Speaker 1: music by Nick Chambers.

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Speaker 4: Artwork by Dogon Kriga.

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