1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 4: Allergies are brutal apparently nationwide, more states with high allergy. 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: Alert than I've ever been at one time. Climate change 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 3: or who knows? 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: What? 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Can we get? A giant national hepafilter? Is that possible? 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: To ask me about that? 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Wow? And make Mexico pay for it? I don't know. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Something like that would be nice, yes, or just a yeah? 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: A gigantic series of fans on the border with the 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: filters to recirculate the air. Yeah, why not? So last 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: night on Special Report with Brett Bear, Brett sat down 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and talked with gosh was it seven guys? Seven? Oh 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: my lord? With six or seven of the guys who 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: are heading up the DOGE efforts, including Elon Musk. Of course, 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: executive producer Hanson has done a fabulous job of getting 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: us many many highlights, many more than we could play 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: on air. Meeting time, Jack, I say, I want to 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: hear a couple from Elon Musk because the interview begins 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: with him. But i'd really, really like to highlight at 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: least a little bit from each of the guys because 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: to me, the great takeaway and Elon is a brilliant 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: guy and interesting, but between his overexposure and his halting 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: speaking style, and as a parent of an autistic kid, 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: I get it, and I'm used to it more or less, 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: but it can be distracting. And my big takeaway from 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: it was this is an amazing collection of brilliant people 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: who are a dead serious about doing what's right for 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the American people, not within a thousand miles of the 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: haphazard monster that the mainstream media is portrayed. So what 34 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: do you think of a little touch on all the fellas? 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: Then why the Hitler salute? 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we were kicking around a picture on the 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Private Well, Jeffrey Goldberg was probably on it. But the 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: private show thread last night of Musk waving with two hands, 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: we called it the double Hitler. So obviously we're dabbling 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: with Nazism here to even play it. But so here's 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Brett Bear with Elon Musk talking about when they took 42 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: a look at the government books, what they found. We'll 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: start with fifty one Michael and. 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: Talk to all the guys here about the specifics. But 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: for you, what's the most astonishing thing you've found out 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 5: in this process? 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 6: The sheer amount of waste and ford in the government. 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 6: It is astonishing, It's mind blowing. Just we routinely encounter 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 6: wastes of a billion dollars or more casually. You know, 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 6: for example, like the simple survey that was literally ten 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 6: questions survey that you could do with survey monkey quashed 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 6: about ten thousand dollars. Was the government was being charged 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: almost a billion dollars for that for just the survey. 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 6: A billion dollars for a simple online survey do you 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 6: like the National Park? And then there pays me no 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 6: feedback loop for what will be done with that survey? 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 6: Sole say, we would just go to nothing. It's like 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 6: you're saying you tacking. 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: That's nice. 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then to the criticism that they are making 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: mistakes and running rough shot over the federal bureaucracy fifty 62 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: three Michael. 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: There obviously are dose critics who are reading all kinds 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 5: of stuff. Obviously lawmakers on the other side of the 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 5: aisle are attacking you, and they characterize the approach is 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: this fire ready and then aim and. 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: How do you approach that. How do you respond to that. 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, I do agree that we act. 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: We want to be careful in the cuts, so we 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 6: want to measure twice if not thrice, and cut once. 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: And actually that is our approach. 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 6: They may characterize it as shooting from the hip, but 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 6: it is anything at that which is not saying that 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: we don't make mistakes. 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: If we were to approach this with the. 76 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 6: Standard of making no mistakes at all, that would be 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 6: like saying someone in baseball's got a bat a thousand 78 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 6: as impossible. So when we do make mistakes, we correct 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 6: them quickly and we move on. 80 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that so the crowd that's angry 81 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: at DOGE, they don't get angry when they hear the 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: government spent a billion dollars on a ten thousand dollars survey. 83 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: And then it's not even for anything anyway. I mean, 84 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: that's all money that could be going to programs you 85 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: like that eventually won't happen because we'll be broke, or 86 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: you should be angry that they're taking your money at 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: all that you earned, not letting you and spending on that. 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: You have no anger about that, only about when they 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: get it wrong now and then before they can fix it. 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of Thomas Sole's epic book of Conflict of Visions. 91 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: People have just gotten the message that in our tribe 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: we are anti this, so shout that it's evil and 93 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: they say, okay, I will. That's part of all the 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: rational thought that goes into it, and that's part of it. 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: I think there is the rational thought of there's endless 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: government money, or it's not my money, or I don't 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: pay taxes or whatever, that you just don't care about waste, 98 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. 99 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: I think true, a lot of people just don't care 100 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: about it. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: And as I've said a million times, that's actually part 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: of the progressive playbook is to narrow the tax base 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: as much as possible so there aren't enough votes to 104 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: vote against the graft that you spread to your cronies. Anyway, 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: moving on from Elon Musk Brett now turns to Steve Davis, 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and I should have jotted down all these guys credentials. 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: They touch on some of it, but he's the first 108 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: of the many, very very impressive, serious people who is 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: helping Elon head up the doge thing. Fifty four Michael. 110 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 5: Some people say this shouldn't take a rocket scientist, Steve Davis, 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: you are a rocket scientist. 112 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: It used to be yeah. 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 5: Now essentially you're the chief operating officer of dough day 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 5: to day operations. 115 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 7: Fair to say, yeah, part of part of the Dose team. 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: So how did you end up here? 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: What's the biggest challenge? 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: You see? 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 7: The reason I'm here, which is probably for many, is 120 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 7: that I think the goal is incredibly inspiring. I think 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 7: most of the taxpayers in the country would agree that 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 7: in order to have the country going bankrupt would be 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 7: a very bad thing, and therefore the country going not 124 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 7: bankrupt is a good thing that all of us are 125 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 7: willing to kind of put our lives on hold in 126 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 7: order to do. I think the thing that's special right 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 7: now is we actually believe there's a chance to succeed, 128 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 7: that there's an administration that's supportive and a great cabinet 129 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 7: and just a great group that will actually make success 130 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 7: a possible outcome. And I think that's given the inspiring 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: mission and given the non zero chance of success, it was. 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Worth h Obviously the voice of a monster, right, and 133 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: one principle that hung over in a good way all 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: of the discussions that was repeated many times is we 135 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: need to be adults and recognize the country is going broke. 136 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: We need to get serious about this before the train 137 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: wreck occurs or the beloved social programs that everybody's screaming about, 138 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: even though they're not talking about touching them, really will 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: go away. The outcome you are screaming about will happen 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: unless we do this very very serious. Do you think 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: it's worth resetting the retirement mind? I think that's covered 142 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: pretty thoroughly. I was surprised they got into that the 143 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: way they did. Yeah, just a great story. 144 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: We played a whole bunch of clips on that several 145 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: weeks ago when Elon first started talking about it, that 146 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: they still do it paper like it's the fifties down 147 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: in a mine. 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: For all. 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: The retirement paperwork for government employees is just unbelievable. 150 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Right, and they're trying to modernize that to make it 151 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: easier for federal employees to do everything they need to do, 152 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: including to retire. 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So 178 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the computer systems of the government are a terrible, sad 179 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: joke and far from irresponsible frat boys. The DOGE team 180 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: is taking a serious look about how to make the 181 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: government more responsive to us. Let's start with sixty Michael. 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: Parham Moganasi DOJE engineer go into these places, one of 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 5: the more than a dozen engineers. First people to go 184 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: into the agencies and view the computer data sets. Tell 185 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: me what you're finding, and for people who don't understand 186 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 5: how that process works, explain it for them. 187 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll say the first thing that got me really 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 8: excited about DOGE was learning basically the state of government computers. 189 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 8: By some estimates, government it costs about one hundred billion 190 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 8: dollars and it's funding systems that are over fifty years 191 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 8: old in the case of something like Social Security or 192 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 8: the IRS. So really critical systems are old, they cost 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 8: a lot of money to maintain, and they can be 194 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 8: the efforts to improve them are often very delayed. So 195 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 8: I thought, I'm a software engineer that that maybe can 196 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 8: make a difference here, and. 197 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: That's that's really what. 198 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Inspired me at a high level. 199 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: That's going to be something when you come out of 200 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: the tech world where you're probably using the very latest, 201 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: greatest of its last week, to come into government and 202 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: realize you're using stuff that's fifty years old and figure 203 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: out what that even was. 204 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Right, And here's another incredibly successful guy who answered the 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: call and said, yeah, you know what, we might be 206 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: able to actually do this for the American people. I'm in. 207 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a try. I like the 208 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: way the next part is framed sixty one sixty two 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,239 Speaker 1: back to back. Please the first a montage of Democrats 210 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: with their messaging over Doge. 211 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 9: It's absurd that Elon Musk is trying to eliminate billions 212 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 9: of dollars from Social Security. 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 10: Elon Musk and President Trump have set their sites on 214 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 10: cutting Social Security. 215 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 11: Their goal is clear, destroy social Security from within. 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: You're in the building, I mean, you're in the computers. 217 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: What's happening there? 218 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 219 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it doesn't line up with my experience on the ground. 220 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: And I'll say the two. 221 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 8: Improvements that we're trying to make to Social Security are 222 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 8: helping people that legitimately get benefits protect them from fraud 223 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 8: that they experience every day on a routine basis, and 224 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 8: also make the experience better. 225 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: And I'll give. 226 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 8: You one example is at Social Security. One of the 227 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 8: first things we learned is that they get phone calls 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 8: every day of people trying to change direct positive information. 229 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 8: So when you want to change your bank account, you 230 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 8: can call Social Security. We learned forty percent of the 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 8: phone calls that they get are from fraudsters. 232 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 10: That's right, almost half. 233 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: Yes, And they steal people's social security. Is what happens 234 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: is they call in, they say they claim to be 235 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: a retiree. 236 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 6: Then they and they convinced the post the Social Security 237 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 6: posts on the phone to change where the money is flowing, 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 6: it actually goes to some fraudster. Is this happening all 239 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 6: day every day and then and then somebody doesn't receive 240 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 6: their social security is because of all the fraud loopholes 241 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 6: in the social security system. 242 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: They're trying to destroy social Security from within. 243 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: And then Musk makes the point, we're trying to make 244 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: sure people get more money, not less. 245 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: Not politics is awful. 246 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: The appalling dishonesty is problem number one. Secondly, standing in 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:20,359 Speaker 1: the way of actual improvement is a second evil, unforgivable. 248 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got more of this and other stuff too. 249 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: But man, how much of America had heard this take 250 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: on Doge. Not very much, Not very many people stay here. 251 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: We got a text from somebody listening to this stuff, 252 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: the Doge stuff about the computers being out of date, 253 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: and he used to work in that world, and he 254 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: said a lot of it was they have this stupid 255 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: requirement where the new system has to integrate with the 256 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: old system so that end users don't notice a difference 257 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: during transitions, which means you have to hold on to 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: all the stuff from the old system for the new system. 259 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: And it just doesn't work in any way to try to, 260 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: you know, move forward with new technology, so you just 261 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: end up sticking with the old stuff, sometimes fifty years. 262 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: Down the line apparently, if. 263 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: You're just tuning in. Brettbair did a fabulous series of 264 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: interviews with the leaders of the Doge effort last night, 265 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: including Brad Smith, who is a health care entrepreneur and 266 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: is working on the Department of Health and Human Services stuff. 267 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: You may have heard in the various lefty media that 268 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: they're trying to gut scientific research and causing damage to 269 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: our elite. You know universities blah blah blah. Here's Brad 270 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: Smith talking about their efforts sixty five Michael Brett. 271 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: Smith working at HHS, And obviously another element is Medicare 272 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: and Medicaid NIH. 273 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 10: What do you find it? 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, I'd say there's a couple of things we're 275 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 12: really committed to in our work at AHHS. Number one, 276 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 12: making sure we continue to have the best biomedical research 277 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 12: in the world. And number two making sure which President 278 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 12: Trump has said over and over again, that we one 279 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 12: protect Medicare and Medicaid. But there's a lot of opportunity. 280 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 12: So if I take NIH as an example today, if 281 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 12: you're a NIH researcher and you get one hundred dollars 282 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 12: grant at your university today, you get to spend sixty 283 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 12: of that and your university spends forty of that. The 284 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 12: policy that we're proposing to make is that you get 285 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 12: to spend eighty five of that and your university spends fifteen. 286 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 12: So that's more money going directly to the scientists who 287 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 12: are discovering new cures. Another example at NIH is today 288 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 12: they have twenty seven different centers. They got created over 289 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 12: time by Congress, and they're typically by disease state or 290 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 12: body system. There's seven hundred different IT systems today at NIH. 291 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: Seven hundred different ITS software systems. 292 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: They can't speak to each other, so they don't talk 293 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: to them. 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 12: They have twenty seven different CIOs. And so when you 295 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 12: think about making great medical discoveries, you have to connect 296 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 12: the data. 297 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 8: Time. 298 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, time, twenty seven different chief information officers correct, correct, 299 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: and most. 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: Of your non technical. So there's a lot there. 301 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 12: There's a lot of opportunity. It will make science better, 302 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 12: not yours. 303 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: No, No, they're derailing important research. This is Elon is 304 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: a Nazi. They need to be stopped. 305 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 4: I live in a university town and a lot of 306 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: people have been really upset about this aspect of it. 307 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: And I mean just like sad and scared for America 308 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: And how are we going to weather the next three years? 309 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: Well, how about this, how about. 310 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: Make it even slightly more efficient and you can have 311 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: more money to use for your research. 312 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's squeeze in sixty six. Michael, you're quite right. 313 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 6: Yes, when I say that our job is tech support, 314 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 6: I really mean it. 315 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to fix the computers. 316 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: If the computers can't talk to each other, you can't 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: get research done. If the computers can't stay online, people won't. 318 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Receive as social security. 319 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 6: So what we have here are a bunch of failing 320 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: computer systems that are preventing people from receiving their benefits, 321 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: that are preventing people from preventing research from happening, that 322 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 6: are extremely vulnerable to fraud. 323 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: And we're fixing it. 324 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: And does that include AI does that include kind of 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: changing the system overall? That's what I guess what people 326 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: are afraid of is they don't know what this is 327 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: all looking like and is it going to affect me 328 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 5: in the long term. 329 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: It's going to affect them, It's going to affect people 330 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: very positively. So the changes that we're doing here will 331 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: ensure the solvency of the American Government, of the American 332 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 6: of the United States of America. This is what we're 333 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 6: trying to do, is ensure that people do receive their 334 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: benefits in the future. And you can all receive your 335 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 6: benefits if the country is operating in a healthy and 336 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: competent way. 337 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: I like elon always bringing it back to that, because 338 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 4: that's what drives the whole thing. We're going to become insolvent, 339 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: We're going to have no money we're not going to. 340 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: Be able to do anything if we don't change it. 341 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Course right right next, we'd like to feature Anthony Armstrong, 342 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: who's a banking giant who's trying to get a hold 343 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: of federal personnel and duplicated efforts and redundancy and waste 344 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: in that way, another very serious person doing serious work 345 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: for you, not against you. 346 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's on the way. 347 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: If you missed a segment at the podcast Armstrong and 348 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: Getty on demand, but stick around Armstrong and Getty. 349 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: But it is. 350 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 13: Very important to recognize that that the people who work 351 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 13: in government who are working on health. 352 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: Are dedicated public servants. 353 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 13: There are neighbors, there are friends, There are people in 354 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 13: our family who are committed to improving the lives of 355 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 13: people across our country. A lot of them are going 356 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 13: to be losing their jobs and we're all going to 357 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 13: suffer because of it. 358 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: That's CNN had this doctor on who is a former 359 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: CDC staffer explaining how cuts and restructuring like Doge is doing. 360 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: It's just a terrible idea. We must not improve anything 361 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: because there's a huge human cost. 362 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: Welling back to the thing I've been complaining about for 363 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: a long time, that the idea of somebody losing their 364 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: job in government is just something that can't happen. 365 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, these are our friends, Jack, these are neighbors. These 366 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: are nice people. 367 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: So before we get back to more Elon Doge stuff 368 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: that is so interesting and not being heard any were 369 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: in America. You know the doctor who tried to push 370 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: his wife off the cliff and killer. The latest is 371 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: he tried to hit her in the head with a 372 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: rock ten times an injector with syringes. Oh so more 373 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: details to come on that it was definitely premeditated. 374 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: She money insanity. So the interesting part, well, one of 375 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: the interesting parts of Brett Bear's interview with a bunch 376 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: of Doge leaders last night was that it wasn't just 377 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who's a lovely fellow and brilliant, but it 378 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: was the group of extremely smart, capable, accomplished people who 379 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: had been assembled who are working as hard as they 380 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: can on improving the federal government how it functions and 381 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's benefits for American taxpayers. Having been 382 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: portrayed is as this loose band of frat boy lunatics 383 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: in most of the media, these are dead serious people. 384 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: For instance, Anthony Armstrong, Morgan Stanley Banker. He is working 385 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: for DOJE at the Office of Personnel Management, trying to 386 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: modernize and make more efficient that huge part of the 387 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: federal government. Clips sixty seven. 388 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 5: Michael Anthony Armstrong, DOZE, Office of Personnel Management. 389 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 10: You're Morgan Stanley Banker, M. 390 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 5: And a guy you know money, And this is a 391 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 5: lot of money slashing around. 392 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 14: There's a lot of money slashing around. It's a lot 393 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 14: of money slashing out the door. And if you look 394 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 14: at the federal government in the way the workforce works, 395 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 14: it's really a one way ratchet over decades. 396 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 10: So it's all going up. It's only going up. You 397 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 10: never you never take it away. 398 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 14: So that leads you with duplicative functions, It leaves you 399 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 14: with overstaffing, and it leaves you with functions in the 400 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 14: wrong places. So a couple of examples duplicative functions Brad 401 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 14: mentioned twenty seven CIOs. If you had kept going with Brady, 402 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 14: probably even talk about the communications office. 403 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 10: I think you've got forty forty distinct. 404 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 14: Communications offices in HIHS, right, wow forty yeah, yeah, And 405 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 14: that's not unusual, by the way, multiple offices like another 406 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 14: a healthy wow. 407 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: If you had three, you'd think you need three different 408 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: communications offices for one agency. 409 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: No, forty Wow, it's a one way ratchet. It just grows. 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: Next to Michael, this. 411 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 10: Is not about the employees there. 412 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 14: There's been many, many hard working, well meeting people who 413 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 14: took these jobs. These jobs were out there, they applied 414 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 14: for them, they took them. 415 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 10: They're doing what's there. It's just that they're. 416 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 14: Duplicating the effort of forty offices. So you've got that, 417 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 14: you've got overstaffing. A good example of overstaffing would be 418 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 14: the IRS has got fourteen hundred people who are dedicated 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 14: to provisioning laptops and cell phones. So if you join 420 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 14: the RS, you get a laptop and a cell phone. 421 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 14: You're provisioned. So if each of those IRS officers or 422 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 14: employees provisioned two employees per day, you could provision the 423 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 14: entire IRS in a little more than a month, so 424 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 14: twelve times a year. 425 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: You can read this. 426 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 6: Why would you have fourteen hundred people whose only job 427 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 6: it is to give out a laptop on the phone. 428 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 10: Right, The whole IRS could be hand once on a month. 429 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 10: So that doesn't make any sense. 430 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 14: And President trump'son very clear it's scalpel, not hatchet, and 431 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 14: that's the way it's getting done. 432 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: And of course that's all being portrayed as you will 433 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: not be able to get the irs to answer the phone, 434 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: which they never have, or get good tax advice from 435 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: you never have, and these suedus are trying to get 436 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: to those outcomes. Anyway. One more fell at a feature. 437 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: This is Tom Krause, who is the CEO of the 438 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Cloud Software Group. He is working at the Treasury Department. 439 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: We'll start with seventy Michael. 440 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: Tom Crass working at Treasury, you are having access to 441 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: the payment system oversees all the outgoing payments. Essentially those 442 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: payments were going places we didn't know where they were going, right, Yeah. 443 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: Unfortunately that's the case right. 444 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 9: As an XCFO of a big public tech company. Really, 445 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 9: what we're doing is we're applying public company standards to 446 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 9: the federal government. 447 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: And it is. 448 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 9: Alarming how the financial operations and financial management is set 449 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 9: up today. 450 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: Michael, let's continue on with this frat boy doge boy 451 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: loose camp. 452 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 9: There is actually really only one bank account that's used 453 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 9: to disburse all monies that go out of the federal government. 454 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Time about one blank account it's a big one. It's 455 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: a it's a big one. 456 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: It's a big one. 457 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 9: A couple of weeks ago, I had eight hundred million 458 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 9: dollars in it. But it's the treasury gedital account. So 459 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 9: when you hear, you know, some of my colleagues here 460 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 9: what they're talking about in terms of the fraud, you 461 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 9: have to ask, well, why is this allowed to happen 462 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 9: at a financial level. Well, it's actually quite simple but alarming. 463 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 9: The Treasury up until now, and thanks to President Trump, 464 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 9: we're fixing this. In fact, there's an executive order that 465 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 9: he just signed the other day which is protecting America's 466 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 9: bank account because it really is the taxpayer's money, you know. 467 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: One, we're changing the culture. 468 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 9: The culture is been not a lot of caring and 469 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 9: not a lot of commitment to doing what's right. Relative 470 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 9: to financial operations. There's a five hundred million dollars a 471 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 9: fraud every year. There's one hundreds of billion dollars of 472 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 9: improper payments, and we can't pass it on it. The 473 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 9: Consolidated Financial Report is produced by Treasury, and we cannot 474 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 9: pass it on. 475 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: We have material weaknesses. What that means is. 476 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 9: That if I was a public company, CFO, I would 477 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 9: effectively be removed. I couldn't file financial statements, I couldn't 478 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: issue securities. 479 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: Such a question can't pass it on right, the federal 480 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: government cannot pass it in ordered. 481 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: And you know one more. He makes a great point here. 482 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 9: We're serving five hundred and eighty plus agencies, and up 483 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 9: until very recently, effectively they could say make the payment 484 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 9: and Treasury just sent it out as fast as possible, 485 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 9: no verification. And so what we're doing is what any 486 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 9: household would do. But imagine you're a household. You have 487 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 9: a bank account. Everyone has an ATM card connect to 488 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 9: that account, everyone has a check book that account. It's 489 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 9: not just your children, it's not just your parents at 490 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 9: you're in LASS, it's your extended family, and they all 491 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 9: can go to the account and disperse funds, no questions asked, 492 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 9: no justification, no verification. 493 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not surprising to me. It's horrifying. 494 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: But I missed the part where they admitted that they're 495 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: just trying to slap Social Security benefits out of the 496 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: mouth of a ninety year old woman who's starving and blind. 497 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: They didn't get to that part, I guess. And then 498 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: finally to put a cap on it bear wrapping up 499 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: ret bear with Elon Musk. 500 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: We didn't talk about any plans to approach cuts at 501 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: the Pentagon. 502 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: You're in there. 503 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 6: The Pentagon has not passed the orders in a very 504 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 6: long time. I mean, as crazy as it sounds, they 505 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: will lose twenty thirty billion dollars a year and they 506 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 6: don't know where They literally don't know where it went. 507 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 6: I mean, Senator Collins was telling me about how she 508 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 6: gave the Navy twelve billion dollars for extra submarines, got 509 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: zero extra submarines, and then when she held a hearing said, 510 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 6: web the twelve billion dollars they didn't know. 511 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: We have howled for years about the idiotic, gigantic theft 512 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: that is the bullet train in California, and the other 513 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: of the twin towers to government squandering taxpayer money is 514 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: the homeless programs in kel Unicornia, billions and billions and 515 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: billions of dollars given out. And we all found out 516 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: last year that not only do they not know if 517 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: any of them have borne any fruit, have been successful, 518 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: they don't even have a means to ask the question. 519 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: And whether it was that little screed about the Pentagon 520 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: or Tyler Hassen, who don't have time to play that tape. 521 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: He's working at the Department of the Interior. They were 522 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: talking about how they have many, many, many programs that 523 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: they are now looking into auditing and realizing nobody knows 524 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: who signed this contract, where the money's going. We're not 525 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: getting anything out of it, but the checks keep getting 526 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: written month after month, year after year. Even so nobody 527 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: has any idea what this is. It's just shocking. And 528 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: again the effort to rain this in is being portrayed 529 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: as the stormtroopers marching across Poland slaughtering the innocent by 530 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffreys and aoc Well. 531 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: And half the country doesn't pay federal taxes. You can't 532 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: count on that half to be too mad. 533 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: It's true. 534 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: That's really frustrating. 535 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, different topic. It's it's interesting to me 536 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: for some reason. It's popping into my head. I can't 537 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: imagine what Elon's work day is. I've thought about this 538 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: many times. But people always want to. 539 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: Win the lottery. 540 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: You know, the lottery gets up to a billion dollars 541 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 4: or whatever, and it makes national news and people are 542 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: buying tickets and everything like that, and everybody who wants 543 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: to win most everybody hear about who wants to win 544 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: the lottery. It's just and so they can live this 545 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 4: incredible life of pleasure. And it's like, you know which 546 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: yacht which, how switch car? You know how much pleasure 547 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: can you get free? Billain does, Yes, that is my dream. 548 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: Go on, and then you got all these guys here 549 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: Elon at the head of them who've got that kind 550 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: of money, and they're doing the exact opposite. 551 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: They're working. They're busting their ass. 552 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: All day long with mind numbing, frustrating, possibly dead end 553 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: work because they that's what they do. They care about 554 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 4: their country. They just they like working. It's interesting, an 555 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: enormous challenge. Yeah, it's interesting, and that's why they have money, 556 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: because they're built that way to have earned the money 557 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: in the first place, as opposed to so many people 558 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: who you know, when they think about having that kind 559 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: of money, it's oh, man, I'd get up at noon, 560 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: I'd go to my yacht, I'd have a ferrari. And 561 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: that's not what these guys are thinking. I just find 562 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: that interesting. The way they're good at. 563 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: The golf course. Before I went to my yacht. But anyway, 564 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't mean to quibble. I've got it right day, Monday, Tuesday, 565 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Wednesday and so on. Yeah, yeah, well, there you have it. 566 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: I would love to see somehow elon and more particularly 567 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: it's Eve Davis, Joe Jibeiah Brad Smith, Anthony Armstrong, Aaron Moga, 568 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: Don Dasi Moganasi. I would love to have them get 569 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: out and explain this, but they will not be welcomed 570 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: at most media outlets because it doesn't go with the 571 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: narrative of their tribe. 572 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: Now, you combine the left's love of. 573 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 4: Big government and government workers and all that sort of 574 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: stuff with just hatred of Trump, Trump's sport, you got 575 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: to be against it. We know all that how the 576 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 4: whole thing works. So it's just yeah, it's tough. It's 577 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: stuf sletting well. 578 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: And you need to remember always that a big part 579 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: of the patchwork that is the Democrat coalition is government employees, 580 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: and they are It's a fore alarm fire at the 581 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: government employee unions right now because if you have one 582 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: thousand workers, three hundred and forty three of whom are 583 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: completely redundant, unnecessary, and taxpayer money is being squandered on them. Well, 584 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: losing those three hundred and forty three is just purely 585 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: a loss to the government unions. They despise the idea 586 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: of making government more efficient for tax payers. And so 587 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: why do you have a quote unquote civil rights leader 588 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: yelling about this, or up with Palestine person yelling about this. Well, 589 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: it's that whole intersectionality, the NATO of grievances. You're all 590 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: together in this. So yeah, okay, when it comes time 591 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: to yell for us, you're gonna yell for us, rightee 592 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: government employees, and they say, yeah, of course we will, 593 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: So okay. So everybody on the left side of the 594 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: aisle acts like making the government better is an unspeakable 595 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: horror at the cost of the of the American people. 596 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: It's all born by the American people. It's obscene, end 597 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: of screed. 598 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: So I got the latest details on that job doctor 599 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: who luckily was arrested to is trying to push his 600 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: wife off the cliff. Also one of the worst New 601 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: York Post headlines I've ever seen, certainly not for the kids, 602 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: among certainly among other things. 603 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: On the way stay here. 604 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 11: The Dodgers got to jump on everybody. They started the 605 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 11: season last week at a two game sweep of the 606 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 11: Cubs in Tokyo. That's how loaded the Dodgers are this year. 607 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 11: On opening date, they're already two games ahead of everyone else, 608 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 11: and they're only spending three hundred and ninety eight point 609 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 11: two million dollars this year to do it, so they 610 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 11: don't even need to steal bases, they just buy them from. 611 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: The other team. You're Dodger fan, it's awesome. If you're not, 612 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: it's very annoying. 613 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the owners are going to be saying we need 614 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: a salary cap very very soon, and the players Association 615 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: has been staunchly against it. So hello strike or lockout 616 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: or something. Someday. 617 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: I want to talk about my ongoing sleep problems and 618 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: things I've learned and I'm realizing based on texts we 619 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: get and statistics a lot. 620 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: Do you have trouble sleeping? 621 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: In fact, over half of people say they have trouble 622 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: sleeping on a regular basis, half of adults. 623 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Anyway. 624 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: Anyway, more on that a. 625 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: Little bit later, and then in a few minutes the 626 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: one of the worst New York Post headlines I've ever seen, 627 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: but ongoing story of the doctor who tried to kill 628 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: his wife at the cliff in Hawaii on the hiking trail. 629 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: That story seems to get a lot of attention. I'm 630 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: not exactly sure why. 631 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: It good looking, rich people murder love. 632 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: Remember I told his story the other day. 633 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: I told the story the other day of someone I 634 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: personally know who broke up with a guy, very serious relationship. 635 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: Broke up with a guy because they were hiking along 636 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: a cliff and he said, man, I could push you 637 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 4: off this cliff right now, and nobody to ever know. 638 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: She was so come out, she's so grouped out about it. 639 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: She broke up. 640 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: Same hiking trail is this guy. So there must be 641 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 4: something about this cliff that makes you think, wow, there 642 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: is nobody around, and that is straight down. They should 643 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: rename that trail. You know you got you're tired of 644 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: your husband, take your micing on that trail, just to 645 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: give him a little elbow. 646 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: The old Hawaiian divorce, right, it's gonna get a name anyway. 647 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: It's gruesome. 648 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: Obviously, this is horrible, and thank god somebody who's around 649 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: to intervene when she started screaming, help, Elpie's trying to 650 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 4: kill me. Two people in their forties. This is what 651 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: the testimony is now from her. They're on this trail 652 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: in Honolulu, up on a cliff and everything like that. 653 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: He stood next to her and said, hey, let's take 654 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 4: a selfie, and then was like edging closer to the 655 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: end of the cliff, and she said no, no, we're 656 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: too close to the cliff, and like walked away, kind 657 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: of freaked out. He then grabs a rock and starts 658 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: beating her on the head with the rock. He'd given 659 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 4: up on the hole. This will I'm gonna make it 660 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: seem like an accident. I don't know what are you doing, 661 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 4: but it's just. 662 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: Trying to get her near the edge. And she backed off, 663 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and he thought, well, I'm all intent on killing her. 664 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Let's see what do we have at hand. 665 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: Starts bashing around the head with a rock, gets her 666 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: on the ground, then grabs his bag and gets two 667 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: syringes from the bag. So this wasn't a all of 668 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: a sudden he thought of this sort of plan. He 669 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 4: certainly not he had had this plan in mind. She 670 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 4: starts yelling and help. 671 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: Help. 672 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 4: Luckily, he's kind of a weedy guy, apparently, because he 673 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 4: keeps fighting and hitting herund the head with a rock 674 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: and she's fine. Well she's not fine, but she ain't dead, 675 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: and she's yelling in somebody seasons, somebody runs that direction, 676 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: and then he stops, and then he makes up the 677 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: whole story of she's lying and she fell and all 678 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. He's being charged with currently second 679 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: degree murder. But what a weird story. 680 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: It's a freaking doctor. 681 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 4: I guess you're right. That is part of the appeal. 682 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 4: It's you know, rich, successful white people. 683 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: Whatever. 684 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no offense to anybody. But if a messy trailer 685 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: park couple tries to kill each other, nobody pays much attention. 686 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens on a fair early regular basis. 687 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 4: And then this headline I don't like. Man says he 688 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: im had luck improving this is not for the children. 689 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: Oh boy too boy. 690 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: Man says he had luck improving nighttime erections by thirty 691 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 4: four percent with shockwave therapy and botox to his penis. 692 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: Couple things about this headline I find interesting. First of all, 693 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: improving nighttime erections is that the thing, like you mean 694 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 4: while I'm asleep in the middle line, I don't know. 695 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: And thirty four percent seems like a very specific number from. 696 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: The Department of the weirdly specific Yes, well, let's bye 697 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: bye golly. My nighttime erections seem to have improved by 698 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: a third. Wait a moment, let me recal your thirty four. 699 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: Percent night after night shockwave therapy. What are you shocking? 700 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: And then botox? Oh okay, the botox. Why congratulations on 701 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: improving your ntes, which apparently had been letting you down. 702 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: Give me botox, not botox, says I, No, inappropriate, I 703 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: apologize thirty four percent? 704 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: You say, that's pretty successful. 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