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Speaker 1: part one of our interview with Nick Oddis. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: our interview, episode number one forty nine with Nick Oldis, which,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, Episode number one forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Eli's with me and today we have the greatest wrestler

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Speaker 5: Man? Oh? Thank you for having me. Guys, that's that's

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Speaker 7: We got to talk to the boss Man too. Billy

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Speaker 3: of everything you know that these Philly fans, I mean,

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Speaker 3: aren't you in WWE. Why aren't you in like Ring

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Speaker 3: What the hell like? Did you quit the business? Kind

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Speaker 3: And then I buy Canelo Triple G because I'm watching

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Speaker 3: And I just remember saying to David like that, my

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Speaker 3: You know, like Impact, Ring of Honor, Raw, SmackDown, NXT,

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Speaker 3: no rivalry, no sort of you know, no personality, no

435
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Speaker 3: pizaz and no sort of no real sort of feeling

436
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Speaker 3: of this is it. This is what This is what

437
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Speaker 3: we came to see because it's hard to make one

438
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Speaker 3: match feel important when there are one hundred matches happening

439
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: every week. And I just remember saying I'd rather have

440
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Speaker 3: ten matches a year and have them all be important

441
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Speaker 3: than have two hundred matches, you know that a bunch

442
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Speaker 3: of critics online say, oh, it was a good match,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, and I just kind of said, if we can,

444
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Speaker 3: if we can do more of this and less of

445
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: just a ring and a bunch of wrestlers just having

446
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Speaker 3: wrestling matches, then you know, then I'll be I'm super

447
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: down to get involved in this. And Dave says, Okay,

448
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Speaker 3: I'll take that away and talk to Billy and you know,

449
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: we'll get back to you. Billy me ten seconds later,

450
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: and he's just like, all right, I'm picking up what

451
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Speaker 3: you're putting down kind of thing.

452
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Speaker 5: And uh.

453
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Speaker 3: And it's the one thing that stuck with me was,

454
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Speaker 3: you know, Billy basically said, I don't know about you,

455
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Speaker 3: but I'm kind of sick and tired of seeing my

456
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: next door neighbors do gymnastics routines with each other. And

457
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, okay, I step into my office,

458
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: you know. And that was that and then we and

459
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Speaker 3: and because of what I had basically laid out with

460
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Speaker 3: you know, my examples of like HBO boxing and Showtime

461
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Speaker 3: and you know, and even UFC and and Dana White

462
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Speaker 3: and Billy your friends, you know, said so he was

463
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Speaker 3: obviously familiar and and Billy's a big fight fan and

464
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Speaker 3: people don't know that about him, but he watches a

465
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Speaker 3: lot of UFC, so he kind of he kind of

466
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Speaker 3: got where I was going with that. And then that's

467
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Speaker 3: how the ten Pounds of Gold series was born.

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Speaker 1: And that kind of transitions into our next question because

469
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Speaker 1: we've big fans of ten Pounds of gold. So when

470
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Speaker 1: did you find out you were next in line for

471
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Speaker 1: the ten pounds of gold? And like, you know, what

472
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473
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474
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Speaker 1: the belt that literally so many legendary performers held before you.

475
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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, you know, I obviously I kind

476
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Speaker 3: of knew from the beginning that I was going to

477
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478
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479
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480
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481
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482
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483
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486
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a lot of places flying under the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, And the original intention was just strip

539
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540
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541
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542
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Speaker 3: just just out of you know, because like I said,

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546
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Speaker 3: enough to now be a bit more like, okay, well

547
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: let's verify this. And they showed me a sit down

548
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: interview they'd done with him, you know, where he talked

549
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: about being a school teacher, and he talked about this

550
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: is his mountaintop and how much it means to him

551
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: to be the NWA champion, and it was and you

552
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: could tell that he was genuine and like the booker

553
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: in me and the promoter in me just immediately started

554
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: getting excited because I went ooh, like I can be

555
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: the perfect antagonist to this protagonist, you know, because that's

556
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: how I think, Like, I don't think like, oh, I

557
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: can do have a good match with this guy, because

558
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: like he you know, he can do all these cool moves,

559
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: and I can do my cool moves. Like I look

560
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: at it and then like this, this is how I

561
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 3: can achieve an emotional response from the audience, you know,

562
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: like this is a perfect ying to my yang, right,

563
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: And that's that's that's really what I wanted our brand

564
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: to represent because I felt like there was enough brands

565
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: already doing the whole kind of oh, good matches for

566
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: the sake of good matches. So I just immediately see

567
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: this guy who's so humble and so likable and so

568
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: you know, American, and just you know, and I just

569
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: remember thinking, God, to a regular person or to a

570
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Speaker 3: traditional fan, to see this guy up against the sort

571
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: of slightly brash, slightly unlikable, slightly arrogant British, you know,

572
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: quintessential wrestler, it's.

573
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Speaker 5: Just, you know, it's a natural matchup.

574
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Because look, you have to have self awareness to be

575
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: to thrive in this business. You have to know who

576
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: you are, right. You can't you can't pretend. And a

577
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: lot of people are realizing this now and to kind

578
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: of to your point earlier about you know what some

579
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: of the booking looks like now compared to what it

580
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: used to be because people are trying to they're trying

581
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Speaker 3: to force stuff that isn't there. You know, you've got

582
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Speaker 3: to know, you've got to you've got to base based

583
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Speaker 3: stuff on what's real.

584
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Speaker 5: And then go from there.

585
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Speaker 3: You know, Steve Austin really is a kind of ornery,

586
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Speaker 3: kind of uh, you know, kind of pissed off Texas,

587
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He's not like, he's not

588
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Speaker 3: he's he's yes, he's yes, he would Yeah, he's not

589
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Speaker 3: driving a monster truck over people's cars who he has

590
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Speaker 3: a disagreement with, Like in real life. You know, if

591
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: someone cuts him off at Walmart, he's not pouring cement

592
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Speaker 3: into their car, but he's but you know, but he

593
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Speaker 3: probably would say, hey, you're done, son of a bitch.

594
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Speaker 5: You know. So it's like it's it's an extension.

595
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, like Flair in the eighties, he he'd lived that

596
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Speaker 7: lifestyle that was not aut front and you have.

597
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Speaker 5: To know who you are.

598
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Speaker 3: And my point I'm getting to with that is you

599
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Speaker 3: have to know, you have to be you have to

600
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Speaker 3: be comfortable enough to know what other people think of you, right,

601
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Speaker 3: Like you have to know, Like I look, I'm married

602
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Speaker 3: to Mickey, right. So it's like, you know, you know,

603
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Speaker 3: many times I've walked into a bar or walked in

604
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Speaker 3: somewhere and I've seen all these guys like you know,

605
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Speaker 3: looking at her and then just and then immediately just

606
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: look at me and being like fuck this guy.

607
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: You know, without they don't know me.

608
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Speaker 3: I've never had a conversation with him, they don't know

609
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Speaker 3: anything about me, but they're just like fuck this guy.

610
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Speaker 5: Yep, you know, And like so I understand, like, okay, cool.

611
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Speaker 3: If that's the vibe I give off, If that's the

612
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: impression that people have of me, I can't change that.

613
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: That's human nature. So I just work with it and

614
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: make money with it. And that's that's the business.

615
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 5: You know.

616
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: It's like you meet Tim Storm, you go this guy,

617
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: I like this guy. This guy's just a great guy.

618
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: You know, you meet me, it might take you a

619
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: couple of times to go, oh, okay, I you know,

620
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: some of my best friends will tell you when I

621
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: first met him, I wasn't quite sure what to make

622
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 3: of him, you know what I mean. And then they

623
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: get to know me, and they're like, now, you know,

624
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: now I give him the shot off my back. But

625
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: so you know, once you understand that you can, you

626
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: can work with it. So that's kind of that's how

627
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: I think, and that's and with you know, So with Tim,

628
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: I sort of I saw it as this major challenge too,

629
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630
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631
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632
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Speaker 3: from Arkansas, who for the most part most fans, particularly online,

633
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: had not ever really heard of, then I can make

634
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: him care about a whole lot of stuff. And it

635
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: was a testament to the quality of the production that

636
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: we were putting out to, you know, because Tim now

637
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: is as important to this brand as me or anybody else,

638
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: you know, And it's like that, it was.

639
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: It was really more of a proof of concept, right.

640
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: We showed everybody, look, we can, we can we can

641
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: tell real stories here and really hook you in with

642
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: with the idea of one one prize, one match, one

643
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: one culmination, one moment that you have to see. And

644
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: you could feel it pretty pretty early on, Like some

645
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646
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, stuff that was that tend to tended to

647
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 3: lean more towards whatever the cool kids were into. You know,

648
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: they start kind of requesting like, hey, can we talk

649
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Speaker 3: to Nick about this? You know about the nw A

650
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: and you know, guys like Sam Roberts and people like

651
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: that are kind of going, hey, can we have Nick

652
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: come in and talk about this? Because this is so

653
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: interesting and compelling and so different. That's the key word,

654
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: you know, people say, this is so different. And that's

655
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: really been our mom from the from the beginning, is

656
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: to try to be different.

657
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 7: Right, And I've seen people online mention things like, you know,

658
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 7: old school storytelling and stuff. It's like, it's just storytelling,

659
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 7: Like that should be what every organization's doing. I mean

660
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 7: you may bring out like a you know, Texas strap match,

661
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 7: that's obviously something from you know, the old days, but

662
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 7: I mean like storytelling is like that's that's the whole point, you.

663
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: Know, right right, I think that Yeah, Like a lot

664
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: of the time.

665
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: This used to be one that made me laugh was

666
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: like you would see these fans online they would call

667
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: somebody like Randy Orton. You know, Randy's probably the greatest,

668
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 3: the best worker in the business. Today and they you know,

669
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: and they say, oh, he's boring, he's oh, they say.

670
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: He's lazy, lazy. Like no, I'll tell you what's lazy.

671
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: Lazy is deciding to do twenty finishes.

672
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: In one match because you cut because you're too lazy

673
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: to try to work on your storytelling or work on

674
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: putting it in the I order a work on your

675
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: facial expressions and your emotional connection with the audience to

676
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: get them to care about one finish.

677
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: But you just you know that.

678
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: But it's like, it's like those kind of matches to me,

679
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: are like an all you can eat buffet.

680
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: It might be it might be fun.

681
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: It might be fun once in a while to like

682
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: put on some sweatpants and go to the local like

683
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: Chinese all you can eat buffet, and and it sounds

684
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: fun at first. Or it's like when you go stay

685
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: at a hotel and you go to breakfast buffet. Oh,

686
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: I can have everything I want, and you have all

687
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: these things that you wouldn't normally have. Oh, I'll have

688
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: I have eggs and bacon and sausage and pancakes and

689
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: croissants and waffles and fruit, and I'll have a fruit

690
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: salad and amusedly.

691
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 5: You know, you have all this stuff that you wouldn't

692
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 5: normally have.

693
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: And nobody's gonna right.

694
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 5: But it's like you don't want to do that all

695
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: the time.

696
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 7: You can't do that every no, no.

697
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: And that it would be lazy and it would be

698
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: like it's the that's the equivalent of someone saying, oh

699
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: that that all you can eat buffet is so much

700
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: better than this, like you know, perfectly cooked odd fish

701
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: with you know this and that like you know what

702
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's just that it's that sort of it's

703
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: that to you see, that to me is lazy, you know.

704
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: And and I don't I'm not sure where we were

705
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: going with that, but I just wanted to jump on that.

706
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the old school thing because yeah, because that's

707
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: that you're right, that's something that gets thrown out a lot,

708
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: oh you guys, And that's you know a lot of

709
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: the time. I can tell when like a lot of

710
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: wrestlers would say this, and I can tell I can

711
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: always tell when someone's just trying to like kiss us,

712
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: to try to get a job or try to sort

713
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: of you know, earn some favor, and they go, oh, man,

714
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: I love what you guys are doing old school and

715
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: it's like you have you ain't you ain't watch what

716
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: we're doing because I'm sorry, we innovated a whole load

717
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: of stuff that that's been kind of ripped off by

718
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: quite a few people at this point since twenty seventeen

719
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: and and the Ten Pounds of Gold series. There was

720
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: nothing old school about that, like following guys around and

721
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, literally filming everything from walking through the airport

722
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: to get in the rental cards to showing up at

723
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: the building and you know, and being honest and and

724
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: like embracing the reality of the situation, but working it

725
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: into the presentation like not a not a worked shoot,

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: which is just which is just even worse than just

727
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: doing a regular work, Like that's just the worst when

728
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: people try to do that, there's even more insulting your intelligence.

729
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 5: We weren't doing that.

730
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 6: We just we.

731
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: Just just presented it like a sport, right, who just said, Yeah,

732
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: this guy's wrestling this guy and this is how he

733
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: really feels.

734
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: About it, like and people people can wrap their heads

735
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 5: around it.

736
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well, I wonder and ultimately that's

737
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: the that's the objective, is to get fans to go,

738
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen next, you know,

739
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: and because then I would see all this stuff that

740
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: would speculator, Oh, I bet they're gonna oh, they're going

741
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: to do this, They're going to set this guy up

742
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: because they couldn't understand why we were why we were

743
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: making such a big deal about Tim, because in their

744
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: world it's like, well, he's not a star, you know.

745
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: So so then of course all the theories start coming out.

746
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh well, they're probably just doing that to get sympathy.

747
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: So like you know, Oldest will beat him on their

748
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: first match, and then they'll and then they'll start you know,

749
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: then they'll start pushing Oldest.

750
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 5: You know.

751
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: It's like and because you know that they weren't they

752
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't really know what was happening. They didn't

753
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: understand what they were being presented because it was being presented.

754
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: As real.

755
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, in the right way, right.

756
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

757
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: And it's like I said with you know, in the

758
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: build to me and Cody, I said, it feels real

759
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: because it is real. Like nothing, nothing that's happened here

760
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: has been predetermined or scripted. You know, it's like what

761
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: you you know, whatever we're saying to each other at

762
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: any point in time is happening in that point in time.

763
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: Nothing was discussed.

764
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: Ever.

765
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 7: Well, that actually is a perfect segue into the next question.

766
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 7: So that was very good set up there. I actually

767
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 7: was at all In in Chicago when you and Cody

768
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 7: faced off for the NWA relativeweight title. I also had

769
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 7: that ranked as my number one match of the year

770
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 7: as well. How you know, how did that come about?

771
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: Uh?

772
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 7: You know, obviously at that time, this was pre aw

773
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 7: Cody was still technically a free agent. I guess what

774
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 7: ever you want to call it, freelancer.

775
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 5: He was under he was under contract the Ring of.

776
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 7: Honor, that's right. Yeah, I'm sorry, that's right. He was

777
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: was still a ring of on that's.

778
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 5: Right, as were as were the young Bucks.

779
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: That's right. Yeah, that's because the the Ring of Arnor

780
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 7: crew or those are the ones that stage that.

781
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: That's right on.

782
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: It allowed and facilitated that entire event to happen.

783
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, how did that become about? Specifically? Specific that

784
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 7: The main question I want to know is, you know,

785
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 7: once the bell hit and the entire roof exploded, what

786
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 7: was that experience like? Because I can't even I've tried

787
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 7: to explain to people what it felt like in there

788
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 7: when that happened, and I can't and then I know

789
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 7: you've had some talks about this, but where there was

790
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 7: it always a plan for three matches with you two?

791
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 7: Or was two as far as you got before things changed.

792
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean I think we yeah, we wanted the trilogy

793
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: for sure, but you know, Tony Kahn came into play,

794
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: so that kind of made things, you know, made things difficult.

795
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 5: But uh.

796
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, look the I I remember, I think it was

797
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: I think it was when I first arrived in Chicago.

798
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I could just feel I could feel the audience, you know,

799
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: because obviously we had star cast and all the you know,

800
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: all the sort of you.

801
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 5: Know, media and different stuff. Everywhere I went. You know,

802
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 5: fans weren't.

803
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: Sort of just going like, oh, hey Nicole is you know,

804
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: hey Magnus.

805
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: Who right, Like that's what used to do.

806
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: Right by the time we got to that, every single

807
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: fan in Chicago was kind of like looking at me

808
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: and sort of being like, well, there's the champ, you know,

809
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: like it was this there was this sort of different

810
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: there's a sort of different energy from everyone. And I

811
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: remember when we did the weigh ins, you know, we

812
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: decided to do weigh ins right, and I this is

813
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: a funny story.

814
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: So a.

815
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: Buddy of Shannon Moore, who's a buddy of mine as

816
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: a luxury car dealer in Chicago, and he's a big

817
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: fan and it basically reached out and said, I'm like,

818
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 3: I'm such a big fan. I'm so hyped for this match.

819
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: We got tickets for all in listen, whatever cars you

820
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: want for the weekend. Like, here's my inventory, Like, take

821
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: whatever you want.

822
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 7: That's cool.

823
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: So I went, cool, I'll have a Bentley and then

824
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: my buddies Sam Shore and Shannon and Davari sam Shaw

825
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: who's now Dexter Loomis.

826
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

827
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: I was like, and get the g Wagon for my

828
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: for my buddies. So we're all cruising around in a

829
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Bentley and a g Wagon the whole weekend. Well, we

830
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: go to the way Ins and like you know, obviously

831
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: I got the suit on and you know, the whole

832
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: deal show up in Bentley. But I've been doing a

833
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: signing and media and stuff before that, and I had

834
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: to and and I had about an hour to go

835
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: back to the hotel and like chill before coming back

836
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: for these way Ins, right, and I was starving, like

837
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: gone back to the hotel, make sure I'm presentable, you know,

838
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, changing my suit, got the whole deal, and

839
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: I'm starving. So I'm like on the way to the

840
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: on the way back to the building to do the

841
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: way in me and me and Davari are in this

842
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: in this Bentley right, and I go through a Wendy's

843
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: Drive through.

844
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 5: Starving Bentley.

845
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, in event, like you know, two thousand dollars suit

846
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: to go through the Wendy's Drive to get like a

847
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: triple cheeseburger. But see, because the thing is sort of

848
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: they sort of talking about with like the rivalry with

849
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: Cody and I being kind of real, you know, they're like,

850
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: we like we we obviously respect each other a great deal,

851
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: and we both knew, i think from the beginning from

852
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: just from our first the first time we interacted with

853
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: each other in London at that Ring of Honor show,

854
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: you could just feel the like you could feel the

855
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: audience go, oh shit, like this is cool, you know,

856
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: because it was you know, he's he works for this

857
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: promotion and he's the NWA champion and they're talking about

858
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: this other event and they're going to face it. Oh

859
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: my god, you know, like it was just it just

860
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: was you could you know, I think the audience just

861
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: started realizing, like, wow, we're seeing a new era in

862
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: the business, you know, like not not you know, not

863
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: necessarily not just because not just so much about like

864
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: me and Cody, although obviously that was a natural matchup,

865
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: but it was the it was just the sort of

866
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: the circumstances, right, they went, this is so cool that

867
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: all these people have been able to to sort of

868
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: come together to make this happen. Right, So, but leading

869
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: up to that, you know, Cody's very competitive. You know,

870
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: Cody wants to be Cody wants to be in the

871
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: middle of every poster. He wants to be you know,

872
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: he wants to be the face of everything. He wants

873
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: to be the brand he wants to make. You know,

874
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: he wants to have the biggest you know, he wants

875
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: to have the longest line. He wants to have the

876
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: biggest part. He wants to have the most important moment.

877
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: He wants to have the marquee match he wants to

878
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: have he wants to have the ice cream bars and

879
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: the whole deal.

880
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: Right, so do I.

881
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: And yet here I am sort of being kind of

882
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: praised as doing this. You know, doing a good jobs

883
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: as the world champion with the belt that his father held.

884
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: So there was like a real there was a kind

885
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: of a genuine kind of rivalry there because.

886
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: I knew what he wanted, you know.

887
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: But then at the same time, I'm a little envious

888
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: of him because I'm like, well, you've had ten years

889
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: making that money at WWE, you know, crimea river buddy,

890
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and like, and he's sort

891
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: of and you know, you're getting all these things. You know,

892
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: you're getting all these opportunities just presented to you one

893
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: after another, New Japan, a ring of honor and this

894
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: and that.

895
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: So I'm sort of sitting you know.

896
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: So I'm again not not bitter, but just in it,

897
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: you know, in a sort of healthy, kind of envious way,

898
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: kind of being like, listen, if you're gonna if you're

899
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: gonna take this from me, you're going to fucking earn it, right.

900
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: And that's again, that's how that's that's how I think

901
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: this business is supposed to be done. It's like there

902
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: should be a little bit of genuine competitiveness and rivalry.

903
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: So leading up to all in Cody was, you know,

904
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: Cody was he wanted to wanted to do the weigh ins,

905
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: and he's he was, you know, he was texting Dave

906
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: Lagano and going, how does Nick look he does?

907
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: Is he in shape?

908
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: You know?

909
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: Does he look good? You know?

910
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: And and I started realizing he doesn't. He wanted to

911
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: do this way in because he wanted to do a

912
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: pose down. He didn't really want he didn't really want

913
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: to weigh and he wanted to pose down, and and

914
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: I just look, there are there there are a lot

915
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: of areas that where Cody and I can be compared,

916
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: and there are some areas where he has me beat,

917
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: but physique is not one of them. And I just

918
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: remember just thinking, okay, buddy. So I was like two

919
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: forty five and I cut down to like two thirty five,

920
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 3: and you know, and I was, I mean, I was

921
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: pretty solid and I but I remember getting the Wendy's

922
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: and just like just strutting into that building just like

923
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: through all the through all the fans, like with the

924
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: suit on, like drop the Bentley outside with the valet

925
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: like hey buddy, you know, and I walk in with

926
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: the Wendy's just like and I had the title belt

927
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: in one hand and the Wendy's in the other and

928
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: I walk into the green room and it's like all

929
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: the new Japan Brass are in there. All the elite guys,

930
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: like the Impact Brass are in there, Jeff and Karen

931
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: are and there's just like a who's who are the

932
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: wrestling business? And Cody's like doing push ups and like,

933
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: you know, getting ready for this like way and stuff.

934
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: And I just walk in just munching, obnoxiously munching on

935
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: this like triple cheeseburger. Yeah, what's up, buddy, And like,

936
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, I'm doing it deliberately, you know what I mean.

937
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't like I wasn't really sort of flexing on him,

938
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But he was just like,

939
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: oh man, come on, you know, like and you know,

940
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: I go out and like and I could feel then

941
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: when when I went out, because I thought, okay, everyone

942
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: will boom me because it's like it's all you know,

943
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: it's all Bullet Club fans, YadA, YadA YadA. But I

944
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: go out to do the weigh in and it's like

945
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: I remember taking off the shirt or jacket whatever it

946
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: was I had on, and I just remember the building.

947
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: I remember like the fans in the room just sort

948
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: of going like oh, you know what I mean, like

949
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: oh shit, and like and and and there's even a

950
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: clip on the ten Pounds that covered all in the

951
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: ten Pounds of Gold episode where there's one of the

952
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: fans that says, oh, man, like seeing him at the

953
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: way and the press conference just like totally changed my

954
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: whole view of this, you know, like he just looked

955
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: like I was just like, shit, that's a star, you know,

956
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: like that's like I don't know who's going to win

957
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: this now, because you know, because they suddenly went And

958
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: that was my whole objective of that was to go, look,

959
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: we all know what you want. We know that you

960
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: want Cody to win, and we know that Cody wants

961
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: to win, but it won't mean shit if you don't,

962
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: you know, if the other guy, if there isn't some

963
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: there isn't some part of you as as a viewer

964
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: that goes, I don't know, man, I kind of want

965
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: old us to win too, though, you know like that

966
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: if it was just a straight up like oh yeah,

967
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: like this guy's just coming in to do the job

968
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: to Cody, it wouldn't have meant anything. My objective was

969
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: to was between the time we made the match you

970
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: know official in like May to September. First, my objective

971
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: was to make everybody think these guys are not only

972
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: are they the same level, but I don't know if

973
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Cody can beat this guy or I don't know or not,

974
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: you know, not can beat but like I don't know

975
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: if Cody's going to go over in this, do you

976
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like that was the whole objective

977
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: was to get them to a point where they went, shit,

978
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: this is this is a pickham, this is fifty to fifty.

979
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's one hundred percent what I thought.

980
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 7: I mean even even in the stands, I was like, shit,

981
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 7: I don't.

982
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: Know, right, And I always there was a part of

983
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: me that that night, and you know, I went back

984
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: to the hotel and just had a kind of quiet night.

985
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: You know, Mickey couldn't come because WW wouldn't let her,

986
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: and that's shocking.

987
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 5: So that was fun.

988
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: But so I'm just like just chilling on my own

989
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: in my room, you know what I mean. And I

990
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: remember like talking to Sam and Davari and stuff, because

991
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: you know, we just like you know, we may we

992
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: may have had some herbal herbal medicine.

993
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: And got too you know, just had like a quiet

994
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 5: at night.

995
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: Whatever, and I remember like chit chatting with him and

996
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 3: just and I kind of said, like, I almost feel

997
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: weird saying this because I don't want to jinx it.

998
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: I was like, but I get this feeling we're going

999
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: to get this huge standing out at the bell right,

1000
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: and I don't I want to be careful how I

1001
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: say this, because I know how shit can get misquoted

1002
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: and taken out of context. I don't want anyone to

1003
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: think that I'm comparing myself to The Rock or Hulk Hogan.

1004
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: But I remember saying, I think we might get that

1005
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: Hogan Rock thing at the beginning, where it's like people

1006
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: are just kind of by the time we get there,

1007
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: they're just so ready to see it, they're just they

1008
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: kind of just lose their shit.

1009
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Yep.

1010
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: And I never mentioned it to Cody because I didn't

1011
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 3: want to jinx it, and I just kind of trusted Cody.

1012
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: And I think that's where the magic. I think that's

1013
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: where our chemistry really comes from, is that I kind

1014
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: of already knew that he was thinking the same thing,

1015
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: and I knew that he knew that I knew, do

1016
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, so we never had

1017
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: to say something. We about to say, hey, let's take

1018
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: a moment and wait at the beginning to see if

1019
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: the people like come up and go crazy, like we just.

1020
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 5: Kind of knew.

1021
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: So then Earle does the instructions and rings the bell

1022
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: and we just kind of stand there looking at each other,

1023
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: and I just see Cody, you know, and then I

1024
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: just like I just sort of look and I hear

1025
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: a few people start to come up, and I just

1026
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: kind of tilted my head and acknowledged just a touch.

1027
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: And then next thing I know, I just like the

1028
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: whole place is like a wave. People just you know,

1029
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: it just it just well you were there, you know, yeah,

1030
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: you know.

1031
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 7: I was up in the suites and even up that high,

1032
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 7: I was just.

1033
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: It just it was just like a monster, you know,

1034
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: within seconds, it was like and I remember that was

1035
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: the one of the only times in my life in

1036
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: the ring where for a minute I was just kind

1037
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: of out of my body, you know, just kind of

1038
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: standing going like, this is a whole different. This isn't goosebumps,

1039
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: This is like a different this is even more than that,

1040
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: this is like what's happening. The only other time I

1041
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: had that was the first time I wrestled Sting and

1042
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: I was standing there. I was standing there in the

1043
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: ring and like Sting's music hit and the crowd popped,

1044
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: and I remember for a second just sort of standing

1045
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: there going I'm watching Stings like entrance, and Doug Williams

1046
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: was stood there with me, and Doug was like, all right,

1047
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: pull it together, mate, Like it was just so funny

1048
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: because like Doug's always such a mentor to me, you know,

1049
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: and he could obviously tell like that for a minute,

1050
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: he just he knew like, oh shit, deer in the headlights.

1051
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 5: He was like, pull it together, you know.

1052
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: And and the funny thing is that in that moment

1053
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 3: I kind of took charge with Cody because I saw Cody.

1054
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 3: And again you can see this on the ten Pounds

1055
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: of Old episode that she covered it. But there's a

1056
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: we got close up with our camera crew because we

1057
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: had our own crew there, and they got a close

1058
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 3: up of Cody, and you can see for a minute,

1059
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: like his lip starts to quiver, like and he's he

1060
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: almost loses it, likes you know, overwhelmed with emotion, because

1061
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, it was very emotional for him because of

1062
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 3: his father and everything, and because of all the work

1063
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: he had done to get that event to, you know,

1064
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: to take place, and I remember you can see me

1065
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: like talking to him and you can't make it out

1066
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: on camera, but I was going, like, all right, it's

1067
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: time to go to fucking work.

1068
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: Let's get it together, do you know what I mean?

1069
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: Like because I saw, you know, I saw him start

1070
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: to lose it, and I went, all right, let's get

1071
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: to work, like and then we go, you know, and

1072
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: it was kind of like it was just a you know,

1073
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: I always I always be grateful to every fan in

1074
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: that building. Because I saw that reaction, I sort of

1075
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: look at it as that was my pop, do you

1076
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like because everyone, you know, because

1077
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: obviously Cody has the huge moment at the end with

1078
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: the win, and you know that reaction was you know,

1079
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: was was another level in and of itself. But to me,

1080
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: I kind of I always sort of looked at it

1081
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: as I felt like it was that audience kind of

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Speaker 3: acknowledging me and going, we want, we want you to

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Speaker 3: know that you've done a good job, you know.

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Speaker 5: What I mean?

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Speaker 3: Because obviously I wasn't gonna a pop of my own,

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Speaker 3: So it was kind of like I always looked at

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Speaker 3: it like that as they went, we're here to see this,

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Speaker 3: like we want you to recognize that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 7: I think the cool thing with it was, especially from

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Speaker 7: a fan standpoint, was I'm in that weird age where

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Speaker 7: I watched NWA when I was little, but then I

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00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 7: was not old enough to go to a program. You know,

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Speaker 7: it already kind of went through the nineties and did

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Speaker 7: that stuff. And then also, you know, it did have

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Speaker 7: an old school in WA phil in the sense that

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Speaker 7: you know, Rick Flair would fight anybody anywhere. I mean

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Speaker 7: he'd go to a fairground in Florida and then go

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Speaker 7: to Charlotte and then Nash. I mean, he didn't care.

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Speaker 7: And it kind of had that feeling too.

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Speaker 3: You know, you a perfect example the week before defending

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Speaker 3: it in a sold out you know, see a center

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Speaker 3: in front of eleven thousand people in Chicago. I was

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Speaker 3: defending it in West Virginia at a fairground, right state fairground.

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Speaker 7: But it kind of had that feeling that y'all met at,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of a quote unquote neutral spot. He's

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00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: not in NBA, you are, and you're like, bring on

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00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 7: all the challengers. I think it was really cool for

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Speaker 7: a lot of the fans, especially for those that didn't

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Speaker 7: get to see you know, the NBA live back in

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Speaker 7: the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was felt like a prize fight, which is

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Speaker 3: what we were totally is what we've always gone for.

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Speaker 3: That's why I've called it from the beginning, the prize

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Speaker 3: fight approach to pro wrestling.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean, like I said, I

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Speaker 7: had that rted as my number one match of twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 7: so well, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Of course we all have that on our biggest matches

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Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen. But that's gonna wrap up Part one

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Speaker 1: of our interview with Nick all this so, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for being here with us on the

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Speaker 1: Battleground Podcast Today. Instagram, We're Battleground Podcast, Twitter, Battleground IHR.

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Speaker 1: Of course, go grab a Battleground Podcast T shirt. You

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Speaker 1: can get them at Territory Wrestling Teas dot com. But Monday,

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Speaker 1: we will be dropping part two of our episode with

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Speaker 1: Nick Alldis and this is what we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the good stuff. What's what's what's the new NWA pay

1129
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Speaker 1: per view deal? Gonna look like, we're gonna see what

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Speaker 1: he thinks about some people's comments about Nick where he

1131
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: sees Nwa heading who he want to wrestle next for

1132
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Speaker 1: good old sweet Charlotte and a whole lot more.

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Speaker 2: So, we're dropping episode two Monday. We'll do that.

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Speaker 1: We'll drop it around I don't know, say six am

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Speaker 1: Eastern time, So make sure you listen, subscribe to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: give us five stars, leave us a nice review.

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Speaker 2: And we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Episode number one fifty is starting Monday, Part two with

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Speaker 1: Nick Audus. Until then, have a great weekend and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys on Monday.

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