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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Friday, July the eighteenth. Oh boy, what

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Speaker 2: a podcast today is. You're gonna absolutely love it. Usually

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Speaker 2: he comes on to talk NFL David Baker because he's

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Speaker 2: such a good gambler winning contests in Vegas. But he

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Speaker 2: was just at the World Series of Poker. He got

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Speaker 2: another bracelet, folks. So sometimes, you know, we bring on

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Speaker 2: guys on the pod and I'm like, oh, Dave Baker.

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Speaker 3: He's done well, yeah, cool, cool, awesome.

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Speaker 2: For the first time ever, I looked him up and

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Speaker 2: he has a Wikipedia page. I never had done that before.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I just seen David Baker and the results.

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Speaker 2: His total career winnings in poker is like eight point

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Speaker 3: I was like, what I had. No, He's very humble

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 2: So we talk about the World Series of Poker and

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Speaker 2: then some NFL stuff at the end.

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Speaker 3: Also, he's going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: A Survivor contest one hundred thousand dollars buying in yeah,

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: And he's going to be selling off parts of it.

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Speaker 2: So you can kind of be on his side for

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Speaker 2: you know, a thousand dollars whatever it is, and I

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Speaker 2: think you guys are gonna love the pod. Before we

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Speaker 2: get to that, just a couple quick news and notes.

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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers did what they normally do. They paid

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Speaker 2: a defensive player exorbitant money three years, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty three million dollar extension. That is absolutely insane. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I would have traded TJ. Watt last year. They have

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Speaker 2: made in the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history

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Speaker 2: for the second time.

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Speaker 3: He's thirty one. You're not close to a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing again?

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds cutthroat, and I would move on

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Speaker 2: and Stealers fans up to hate that. I mean, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eight mill fully guaranteed Jamar Chase's averaging forty

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Speaker 2: million year. TJ Wat's going to.

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Speaker 3: Now be a forty one.

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Speaker 2: So the biggest loser isn't the Steeler though. The biggest

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Speaker 2: loser is the Dallas Cowboys because they haven't paid Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons and now you've got a top forty one mill.

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Speaker 2: I just I find it really dense that these things

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Speaker 2: are happening in the NFL. But you know what, some teams,

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Speaker 2: I guess they don't care that much about about getting

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Speaker 2: that much better. It's just puzzling to me. And then

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Speaker 2: I got a funny stat for you. Career earnings twelve years,

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Speaker 2: JJ Watt twelve years, one hundred and twenty nine million.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt's extension three years, one hundred twenty three million.

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Speaker 3: Just silly.

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Speaker 2: It really is goofy. But hey, Pittsburgh keeps their guy.

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Speaker 2: He's their number one jersey salesman, jersey seller. He's obviously

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Speaker 2: a very very good player, elite top five at his position,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I just don't know where you're going.

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Speaker 2: I would have got off what I would have started

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Speaker 2: the rebuild. They're just perpetually kicking the can down the road,

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Speaker 2: ass backwards into quarterback. I'm here to tell you, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: he's not that guy.

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Speaker 3: He's not that guy.

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Speaker 4: Pal.

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Speaker 2: And so the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know they paid TJ.

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Speaker 2: Wat Congrats to him. He's got more generational wealth. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: let's quickly move to the NBA before we get to

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Speaker 2: David Baker. This surprised me so the Bucks waved and

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Speaker 2: stretched Damian Lillard. Okay, Damian Lillard then could have had

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Speaker 2: the option to sign with the Warriors right on the

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Speaker 3: He could have gone anywhere on the cheap.

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Speaker 2: And obviously he's gonna be out next season, but he

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Speaker 2: I mean, at thirty five years old, he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: He's a great deal. So I'm thinking, oh, Dame, that

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Speaker 2: That is so genius. He could sign anywhere. The news

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Speaker 2: Why are you signing Damian Lillard. He got a player

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Speaker 2: So essentially what Portland is saying is, hey, you asked out,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. And you know, he's the greatest player

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Speaker 2: in Portland history. Sorry Bill Walton, it's Dame Lollard, no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it. So this is like, you know, a

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Speaker 2: nice thing for a guy who brought them prominence. They

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Speaker 2: had that much talent around him. Here's what's crazy. He's

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Speaker 2: He's gonna make seventy million dollars between what he got

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Speaker 2: this makes sense at all. He's gonna rehab all year

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Speaker 2: and he'll get to do it in your family and

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Speaker 2: his kids, obviously, which is nice. But what on earth

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Speaker 3: Where are you going? I mean, they.

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Speaker 2: Like, obviously he's not a starter at this stage in

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Speaker 2: so far from Scoot Henderson and Shade and Sharp and

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Speaker 2: down the road Dame can help him. But this is

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Speaker 2: You know, he's been a tradable contract that they have

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Speaker 2: got Yang Hansen. I don't really know where Portland is going.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're playing right now. Hey, let me just get

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Speaker 2: as many guys in the building as we can. Good bad,

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Speaker 2: we'll see him. Camarow was pretty good for them last year.

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Speaker 2: They've got a lot of Hey, that could be something

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Speaker 3: I don't I just I'm not totally sure what they're doing. Now.

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Speaker 2: The good news is you get Dame the veteran. The

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Speaker 2: you could flip Drew Holiday at the deadline to a

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Speaker 3: You know, let's go get Drew Holiday. It's in play.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, but the news just keeps on coming.

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Speaker 3: You just what you think. It's a slow week, Things

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Speaker 3: get busy, all right.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, without further ado, let's get to our guest poker

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Speaker 2: player NFL gambler David Baker.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: All Right, let's welcome into straight Fire.

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Speaker 2: One of the foremost football gamblers we have on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: but he also is a renowned poker player, and the

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Speaker 2: World Series of Poker just tappened.

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Speaker 3: He played in it. It was kind of a wild

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Speaker 3: World Series of Poker. So we're gonna do a little both.

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Speaker 3: David Baker, How you doing, my man?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: Just finished up our annual poker Summer Camp, where we

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Speaker 5: play poker tournaments for basically two months straight. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: so yeah, this is this is literally the first time

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Speaker 5: I've had to breathe for a few minutes and two months.

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Speaker 5: I pretty much play. Two months, I pretty much play.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I leave the house by eleven or twelve

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Speaker 5: one or two am. Takes me a few hours to unwind,

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Speaker 5: sleep for five six hours, get up to it again

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Speaker 4: I basically do that for about fifty days straight.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so you're including weekends in this. It's not just

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Speaker 3: Monday to Friday.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's every day. It's every day.

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Speaker 3: Gosh.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know, I don't know how Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much you know about poker and the

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Speaker 5: poker scene and the World Series of Poker. But so

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Speaker 5: the World Series of Poker is it's not just one event.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people think World Series of Poker they

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Speaker 5: on the news or something that it's one event. It's

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Speaker 5: highlighted by one main event, which is our ten thousand

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Speaker 4: But it's a festival. It's one hundred tournaments over fifty days.

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Speaker 4: They start.

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Speaker 5: They start two to three tournaments a day and they

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Speaker 5: run for anywhere from there's a few of them that

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Speaker 5: only go one day, and there's some that go five days,

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Speaker 5: and then the main event goes about ten days. But

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Speaker 5: each tournament is its own entity, and they give away bracelets,

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Speaker 5: which is basically the top prize that you can get

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Speaker 5: as a poker player is winning one of these prestigious bracelets.

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Speaker 5: And the buy INDs range anywhere from I think the

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Speaker 5: smallest one was three dollars, was three hundred dollars this

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Speaker 5: year to as high as two hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 4: That's where that's where most of them, that's where most

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Speaker 5: And we play one hundred tournaments a year and they

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Speaker 5: range from one hundred people in the tournament to twenty

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Speaker 5: five thousand people in the tournament, just depending on the tournament.

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Speaker 5: And some of them are comprised of all pros and

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Speaker 5: some of them are comprised of mostly amateurs, but most

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Speaker 5: of them are big mix of everybody. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: our festival, and so each event has its own entity,

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Speaker 5: but it's all within this one festival of poker.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how did you perform?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to get into details

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Speaker 2: on place you finished or winnings, but how did you

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Speaker 2: perform it? And it sounds like it was a drama

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Speaker 2: filled World Series of Poker. Rob g had texted me,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, are you following this guy? They kicked

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Speaker 2: I started to read about it. I'm like, oh, Baker's there,

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Speaker 2: Let's bring them on.

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Speaker 5: And what you're referring to is the person getting kicked

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Speaker 4: He didn't really get kicked out, but he he has

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Speaker 4: Are you friends with him? No, I'm not friends with them.

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Speaker 5: And he he's also been known to I don't know,

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Speaker 4: And he was very deep.

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Speaker 5: I think he finished like thirtieth or thirty third or

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like in Dominkin Sue, Like, you know,

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Speaker 5: But that's kind of the Wilkersoof treatment. He kind of

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Speaker 5: But ended up where he ended up getting like thirty

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Speaker 4: Of the World Series because he was disrespectful to the floor.

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Speaker 4: He's disrespectful to the players, and it was it was

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Speaker 3: It's got to have a clock.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to have some kind of clock.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean he would spend six minutes tim And

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you're wasting the time when you have

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Speaker 5: You know, that's probably for a different day, and it's

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and uh, I don't think we're gonna have

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's kind of the Wilkers new story in

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people are.

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Speaker 2: Listening to this and being like, damn, dude, four brace,

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Speaker 2: So that's amazing. Is there an overriding strategy you can

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Speaker 3: But poker's a little bit different because so many.

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Speaker 2: People can play online now to get better, But is

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Speaker 3: For tournaments like this.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of good content out there if

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Speaker 4: There's there are.

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Speaker 5: Training sites that are available that are great. My friend

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Speaker 4: Still a lot of feel and just.

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Speaker 5: Understand situations and motivations and things like that, a lot

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Speaker 4: The numbers don't see.

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Speaker 5: And the great thing about poker is there are a

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Speaker 4: To be really good at what you do.

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Speaker 4: Like, there's just not one way to win at poker.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing that's so intriguing about it is

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Speaker 5: they're just kind of out there flinging at Brett Favres style,

438
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 5: and they're out there flinging it and they have some

439
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 5: great results, and they didn't really know why.

440
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 4: They were doing some of the things they were doing,

441
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: but they were just being.

442
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: Really aggressive at certain times and everything just kind of

443
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 5: fell into place and they won, and then maybe they

444
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 5: didn't have then they kind of fell off the expectations,

445
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: kind of got the best stuff on the poker world,

446
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 5: kind of like, oh, he's the next big thing, and

447
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 5: then they started doing things and people start figuring out

448
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: a little bit about their game plan, and then they

449
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 5: start losing, and then they go back and they adapt

450
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 5: and they learn, and some fall off and they never

451
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: make it because they just get lazy and they think,

452
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 5: like the way that I've done it's always the way,

453
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: and some get better and then they have a resurgence

454
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 5: and they have their time back in poker. I don't

455
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 5: feel like I ever completely fell off, but I did

456
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 5: do that. I came in and I had really good

457
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 5: results early, and then like I just kind of plateaued

458
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 5: a little bit, and then I said, you know what,

459
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: if I'm going to keep up with these guys, I'm

460
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: going to have to get a little I'm gonna have

461
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 5: to get better.

462
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: And I went back into you know spaces where I

463
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: wanted to try to.

464
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: Learn through friends and through talking and through a little

465
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 5: bit of studying and practicing and just everything, and then

466
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 5: you know, kind of tailored my game.

467
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: And the game is always evolving.

468
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: It's it's like, you know, once you're able to be

469
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 5: ahead of the ball game, just like in football, it's it's,

470
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 5: you know, the wishbone came into and then people figured

471
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 5: out how to beat the wishbone and then it was

472
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 5: passing attack and it's like last year we kind of

473
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 5: saw the resurgence of the running back because it was

474
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 5: a pass first league, and then people defenses were like, well,

475
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 5: we're not going to allow you to pass.

476
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: We're going to keep.

477
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 5: Everything in front of you, and we're going to put

478
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 5: more We're going to put more small defensive backs on

479
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: the field to stop you from passing it. So then

480
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 5: they started running it and we saw the resurgence of

481
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 5: the running teams. We saw Derrick Henry and and Saequon

482
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 5: Barkley and and Bucky Irving.

483
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: And I mean I don't know, I forgot about him already.

484
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 5: Yeah yah, yeah, But basically, you know, the teams turned

485
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: to like more running backs and now we're going to see,

486
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 5: you know, how do teams how do defenses respond to that?

487
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 5: And it's just a constant thing of offense defense adjusting

488
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: and putting new game plans. And that's kind of how

489
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: the Poke landscape is.

490
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, So did you play chess growing up?

491
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: Dates I didn't.

492
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 5: No, I didn't, but I think chess is so, I mean,

493
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 5: chess is people. Some people say that poker solved and

494
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 5: like in a chess realm, but chess doesn't ever.

495
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: I think chess has a lot more like straightforward, like learning, memorizing, memorizing. Yeah, poker,

496
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: you can memorize some things, but when it gets down

497
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: to it, you're still you're not.

498
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, I I guess I can't say. I

499
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 5: don't really want to say what chess says. It isn't

500
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: because I have not in the realm. But I feel

501
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: like chess is a more studied game, whereas poker, with

502
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: the range of players we play, you're playing people who

503
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 5: are not studied. So let's let's say, for instance, in chess,

504
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: if you have a good player versus versus a bad player,

505
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 5: the good player.

506
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 4: Is just gonna win every time. And in poker and poker,

507
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: the good player is not going to beat.

508
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 5: The bad player right because the bad player has like

509
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: there is an element of luck. Still in poker, you

510
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: can get your money in good and you and like

511
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: the best you're ever really getting your money in a

512
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: lot of times is eighty twenty or seventy thirty or

513
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 5: sixty forty percentage base wise, So a lot of times

514
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 5: there's cards to come, so amateurs can suck out and

515
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: win all the time, and they do. And that's the

516
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: great thing about our game is in the long run,

517
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: the pros and the skilled players will end up with

518
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 5: the money and will end up with the titles and

519
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 5: the glory, but amateurs win all the time.

520
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: Kind of like I'm golf. In golf.

521
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 5: You saw Chris Godder up last week in the Scottish Open.

522
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 5: He beat Rory McElroy. You know, is he gonna beat him?

523
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: He might beat him one out of ten times, you know,

524
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 5: or maybe even less. That's kind of how our game is.

525
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: Like as much skill as there is that you know,

526
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 5: big pros are always around the top of the leaderboard,

527
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not going to

528
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 5: have some amateurs mixed in and that some weeks the

529
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 5: amateurs aren't going to end up on top. If you

530
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: have a chess tournament, you're never going to really have

531
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 5: an amateur is never going to win that usually.

532
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: I asked, because my son got into chess.

533
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: I got him into it, and you know, instantly he joins,

534
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: you know, tournaments and starts crushing people and rising rapidly

535
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: like oh my gosh, maybe this guy's a prodigy. But

536
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: then he hits like a Plateau struggles, we get him

537
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: a coach, and now he's making a second surge almost

538
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: kind of like a lot of these quarterbacks are the

539
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: analogy we talked about. So it is interesting watching people improve,

540
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: and it sounds like, man, with poker, you're crushing.

541
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: I do want to ask. Obviously, fifty days of poker

542
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: is a lot. You probably are not up to speed

543
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: on NFL. Have you started your prep work for the

544
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season.

545
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: It's crazy. I want to be like super into, so

546
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: you know, on my way.

547
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: To and from I'll alter date between poker podcasts and

548
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 5: football ones. So I've to some and I know some,

549
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 5: and my Twitter feed is obviously full of football stuff,

550
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: so I'm kind of up a little.

551
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: But I've sent down multiple texts.

552
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 5: When they were like great summer, great summer, and I'll

553
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: be like, yep, football season. So yeah, I'm ready for

554
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: football season. I'm not fully abreast of my opinions and stuff.

555
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: I've made one wager. That's the only thing I've done

556
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: all year.

557
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Let's hear that. Let's hear it.

558
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: The day DeVante Adams signed with the Rams, I bet

559
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 4: the Rams to win the NFC at fourteen to one

560
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: at CIRCA and currently it's eight to one, so I

561
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: got a really good number there. I figured the Rams

562
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: are kind of team that.

563
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: When they go all in, I feel like they go

564
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: all in, and you don't sign Davante Adams if you're not.

565
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: Going to go all in.

566
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: So I figured like that was a signal of I'm

567
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 5: willing to I'm willing to trade draft picks.

568
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: We're going to go for it. If we're going to

569
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 4: bring back Stafford and we're going to bring in Devonte Adams,

570
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 4: we're going to go for it.

571
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 5: I like the obviously they have one of the best coaches.

572
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: They have a good nucleus of young players, the defense

573
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: has some good young people. I love Puca, Stafford, Davante.

574
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: I mean that's to me that that's a team that

575
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 5: can get it done. Stafford, I know you love Stafford

576
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: so super winning quarterback. So yeah, that's my only wager

577
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: right now. I'll definitely have some Broncos stuff. Everybody knows

578
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: I'm a big bow Knicks fan, so I still think

579
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: they're undervalued in the market. But as far as other

580
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 5: things like that, my early leans are I kind of

581
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 5: feel like it's Baltimore's year. But I don't really like

582
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: the price that much. But that's my early thoughts. But yeah,

583
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: I'm ready to go for football season. I'll be loaded

584
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: up for all the circle contests, the survivors, the pick contests,

585
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 5: and I'm going to be doing I don't know if

586
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: you've talked about on your show, but I'm going to

587
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: be doing the one hundred thousand dollars a Grand Decimo

588
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 5: Survivor contest.

589
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: Have you heard about that?

590
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: No, one hundred thousand dollars buy in or payout.

591
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Buy in.

592
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand?

593
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know?

594
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: So are you doing online?

595
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: There is? So you know about the survivor count, the

596
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: Circus Survivor count. I mean, I know the Circus Survivor Yeah, okay,

597
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: So the Circus Survivor contest.

598
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: For those that don't know, it's a one thousand dollars

599
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: survivor contest. Last year, the winner got fourteen and a

600
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: half million. It's a winner take all unless you get

601
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: to the end with multiple people and then it's chopped

602
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: amongst people.

603
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: That get there. This year, they're anticipating it's a fifteen

604
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: million dollar guarantee.

605
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: I've had some people say that they think it'll get

606
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: twenty million. My estimation is probably closer to seventeen million.

607
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 5: In the one thousand dollars one. Well, they introduced a

608
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: high roller this year called the Grand Decimo, and it's

609
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars survivor contest that Circus.

610
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: Sports is running. And I think I'm going to have

611
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: two entries.

612
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to have one for sure at a hundred thousand,

613
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: and then there's I might do a second one, but

614
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 5: I'm not that big of a baller.

615
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: I will not have all of it. I'm going to

616
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: be selling shares.

617
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: Uh wait, hold, let me pause, hold on one. One

618
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars contests? Are you you're going to have one?

619
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Just yourself?

620
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: What do youself?

621
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 5: It's going to be my entry, but I'm not I'm

622
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: going to be the one making the picks. Me and

623
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: my partner Mark, who are we do all the contest

624
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: stuff together. We're going to be making the picks. We're

625
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: going to have sole discretion on the picks. But I

626
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: am going to sell.

627
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: Shares of pieces of Okay, the entry.

628
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: What's the estimated pot or do they not have one yet?

629
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: Well, so they're guaranteeing one and a half million, which

630
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: is fifteen entries, but I would I would take over fifty.

631
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: I think they'll have over fifty entries. It'll be over

632
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: five million dollar pot.

633
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, hold on, let me do the math here.

634
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars buy in for a five million

635
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: dollar pot versus one thousand dollars buy in for a

636
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollar pot.

637
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: Although one will have fifty people, the other will have fifteen.

638
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: Hundred fifteen thousand people. Oh, fifteen thousand, yeah, fifteen thousand

639
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: times a thousand is yes.

640
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: I was not ready for math here.

641
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean beating fifteen thousand verse beating fifty. It's

642
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: it's different, but it's just kind of like one. Yeah,

643
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where.

644
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: You know, the fifteen million and the beating fifteen thousand people,

645
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: Like that's a dream and and it's fun and it's

646
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: amazing and like we all do it. But you have

647
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: to get through twenty weeks of picking people, eighteen weeks to.

648
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: The NFL season.

649
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: Plus they also have you have to pick an entry

650
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 5: on both Thanksgiving and Christmas. I hate, but that's the

651
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: that's their way of littling it down for the Grand

652
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: Decimo to win.

653
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: Like you, it might be over week eight or week

654
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: ten depending on upsets, so you don't have to go

655
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: quite as far. So what have you have you placed

656
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: shares yet?

657
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Speaker 3: For the one hundred k? I'm just curious.

658
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's a better investment than me doing the one

659
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars Survivor I don't think I would do that anyway.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not going to charge any juice or anything

661
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Speaker 5: with a percentage that you want to pay in, You'll

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Speaker 5: get if you want to pay See, I'm just basically

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Speaker 5: I'm taking a waiting list now, an interest list, So if.

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Speaker 4: You would like to have a piece, or is there

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Speaker 4: a minimum?

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, probably probably a thousand would be probably

667
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Speaker 5: a thousand thousand or two thousand if I do one

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Speaker 5: entry or two entries, just kind of depends on how

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Speaker 5: many people I get that have interests, because I would

670
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Speaker 5: like to get as many people involved as possible.

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Speaker 4: I'll be selling.

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Speaker 5: Shares both individually through you can reach me online on

673
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: my Twitter account or my dms are open, or you

674
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 5: can text me if you know me or whatever. But

675
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Speaker 5: also I'm going to probably be selling shares on site

676
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: that I work for Survivor Sweat, which we're also the

677
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: largest proxy service for the contests. So if you're doing

678
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Speaker 5: if you want to do the Circle Survivor contest, get

679
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Speaker 5: in touch with this At Survivor Sweat. You can use

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Speaker 5: code word ODB for a discounted rate on your proxies.

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Speaker 5: But we have a marketplace over there for and buying

682
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Speaker 5: and selling shares of Survivor entries, so I'll probably post

683
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Speaker 5: a little bit on there as well. So if you

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Speaker 5: don't want to go through me directly, you can go

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Speaker 5: through our site, Survivor Sweat, and I'll have the entry

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Speaker 5: on there.

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Speaker 4: But basically I'm going to I'm one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Doing one entry for one hundred thousand. I already have

689
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Speaker 5: an interest list that has you know, some people. But

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Speaker 5: if I get too many people on the interest list

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Speaker 5: for the one hundred thousand, then I'll just do two

692
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Speaker 5: entries and I'll just divide up your shares based on that,

693
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Speaker 5: because I want as many people riding with me as possible.

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Speaker 4: So if we get near the end and we have

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Speaker 4: a great sweat, everybody can come to Circa and you know,

696
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Speaker 4: I'll make a deal. You know, we'll put everybody up

697
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 4: in rooms or or get you know, get them to

698
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Speaker 4: give us a discounted rate, and we could sweat the

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Speaker 4: football games together and have ten, fifteen, twenty people they're

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Speaker 4: sweating for five, ten million, whatever it is. I think

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Speaker 4: it'd be a lot of fun, and I want to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 5: So had a great year and a lot of people

704
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Speaker 5: like to ride with me, and some of the gambling

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Speaker 5: endeavors I do, So this is kind of a way

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Speaker 5: to get some fans involved and stuff.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so since you're you're up on the math, I

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Speaker 2: don't have my calculator out. Let's just hypothetically fifty people

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Speaker 2: enter one hundred thousand dollars contest, so it pays out

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Speaker 2: five million. If somebody bought a two thousand dollars chunk

712
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Speaker 2: of yours, and you want what would that two thousand

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Speaker 2: turn into.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's just say I do one entry, just for

715
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Speaker 5: ease of math, that would be two percent, so you

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Speaker 5: would get two percent of let's say five million, so

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Speaker 5: U one percent is you'd get one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: So you could turn two thousand into one hundred thousand, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, five and five million, five hundred thousand would be

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Speaker 5: ten per one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's not terrible.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 1: No, that's.

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Speaker 4: If we do two entries. You know, we'll we'll figure

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Speaker 4: out if So.

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Speaker 2: That gets tricky though, I mean because like if you

727
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Speaker 2: do two entries and one cash is to the other

728
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Speaker 2: dozen't and you were like on the wrong entry.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's not that's not how I'll do it.

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Speaker 5: If you could, if you say, if you if you

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Speaker 5: tell me, you know, David, I want to invest two

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Speaker 5: thousand in Uh. If I do one entry, you'll have

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Speaker 5: two percent. If I do two entries, you'll have one

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Speaker 5: percent of each.

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that makes sense. Listen, that might not be bad.

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Speaker 3: I'll have to run up by the wife. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what she says about tailing you in that. Obviously I'll

739
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Speaker 3: be in the contest.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, we can wrap up with so you know

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Speaker 2: Adam Churnoff, he was on here and I don't know

746
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Speaker 2: if a year ago if you remember, but he said

747
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Speaker 2: he liked an Eagles chief Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So before the season, I bet Eagles to beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: In the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I forget if it was like twenty eight to one,

751
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Speaker 2: whatever the odds were. I had the ticket, you know,

752
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Speaker 2: under lock and key, and it hit.

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Speaker 3: Eagles beat the Chiefs. So it was an awesome So.

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Speaker 2: That's going to pay for all my contests that I'll

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Speaker 2: be entering here next month. Do you have an early

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you like Rams Ravens. Huh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: If I had to say anything right now, I would

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Speaker 5: go I would take Rams over Ravens. But you know,

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Speaker 5: that's just taking the odds out of it.

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Speaker 4: I would like to.

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Speaker 5: I mean, everything has a percentage chance of happening, so

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Speaker 5: I just really need to go in and figure out

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Speaker 5: is are the percent or is there a better value

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Speaker 5: you bet on the board than that? But just my gut,

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Speaker 5: my football instinct taking odds out of it, I like

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Speaker 5: the Ravens to beat the Rams in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: That's my July seventeenth or sixteenth prediction. I don't know

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Speaker 5: exactly what that would be. I'm saying the Rams are

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Speaker 5: eight to one to win the NFC and the Ravens

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Speaker 5: are probably three to one to win the AFC, So

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Speaker 5: parlay those together and then take the Ravens would probably be,

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Speaker 5: you know, a small favorite in the Super Bowl. So

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Speaker 5: whatever that comes out to be, I don't know, probably

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Speaker 5: in the thirties to one range, but I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not sure if it's if that's what it is. But

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Speaker 4: we had a who are your early leans?

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Speaker 3: Well, we had Aaron.

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Speaker 2: Shots on yesterday and he said the Bills over the

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Speaker 2: last five years are the best team according to their

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Speaker 2: numbers to not make the Super Bowl, and the second

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Speaker 2: best is the Ravens. So basically, those two teams are

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Speaker 2: knocking at the door and one of them is going

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Speaker 2: to de throw on the Chiefs. I lean Bills, but

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Speaker 2: it's probably recency bio.

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Speaker 3: Remember that if Mark Andrews catches that, you know, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't drop that two pointer.

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Speaker 5: I don't mean yeah, I mean I really feel like

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Speaker 5: that game ran out as horribly as possible for the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But well, here here's the Bowl case for the Bills.

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Speaker 5: They play in an extremely weak division, which means their

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Speaker 5: record is probably going to be better than the Ravens,

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Speaker 5: which means they're probably going to get the buy, which

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Speaker 5: means they're probably going to have home field advantage plus

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Speaker 5: a week off.

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Speaker 4: That's that's if I was making a bow case for

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Speaker 4: the Bills. That's what I would say if I'm making

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Speaker 4: a bowcase for the Ravens. I just think they're better

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Speaker 4: across the board. I just think they're better coached. I think,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think.

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Speaker 5: Lamar and Josh are are fairly similar in UH skills

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Speaker 5: and ability. I just I feel like the offensive weapons

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Speaker 5: on the Bills are much worse than the Ravens. I

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00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: really like, I really like just the skill position players

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Speaker 5: across board. I like the defense on the Bills better,

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Speaker 5: I mean on the Ravens better. I feel like the

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Speaker 5: Ravens have more money, draft capital, things available, and willing

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Speaker 5: to go out and make those big splashes during the

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Speaker 5: year if they need to. I just feel like the

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Speaker 5: Ravens have a little bit more than the Bills. But

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Speaker 5: you know, the Bills kind of being a favorite for

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Speaker 5: home field advantage is kind of a big deal. So

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Speaker 5: obviously we can't discount you know, teams like Kansas City

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Speaker 5: and the Bengals and a couple of teams like that.

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Speaker 5: But you know, if you've listened to anything that I've

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Speaker 5: done over the last years, you know I'm not a

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Speaker 5: huge Kansas City Pat Mahomes gys so I'll be fading

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs this year, and they finally actually have a

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Speaker 5: division with good opponents. So I think the Chiefs have

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Speaker 5: been bullied by an extremely weak division over the last decade,

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Speaker 5: kind of like the Patriots were. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 5: huge Cobra, I'm a huge Tom Brady fan, and I'm

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Speaker 5: a huge I was a huge Patriots fan, so they

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Speaker 5: were bullied by that as well. But the Chiefs kind

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Speaker 5: of been bullied by that.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: When was the last time the Raiders were good? The

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Speaker 5: Broncos have been terrible for multiple years now. The Chargers,

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Speaker 5: you know, they can't get out of their own way.

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Speaker 5: Their coaching staff was horrific with Brandon Staley and and

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Speaker 5: so yeah, I think at the end of it, the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs just had a layup division.

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Speaker 4: And this year, look, this Broncos team is for real.

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Speaker 4: The Chargers team is really good, and this Ravens team

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Speaker 4: is going to be improved too.

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Speaker 5: And so they don't have the layups. They don't have

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Speaker 5: the layups. They don't have the layups that the Bills have.

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Speaker 5: And even for that matter of the Ravens, I mean,

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Speaker 5: the Ravens have two gimmes. The versus the Browns and

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Speaker 5: the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, whatever you.

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Speaker 5: Think about I think the Steelers are average at best.

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not buying into Steelers.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you saw this.

845
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Speaker 2: The Bills don't have to face any of the top quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the best quarterback they face is like

847
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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford. I don't think they have to face I'm

848
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Speaker 2: pretty sure Burrow a little.

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Speaker 4: More, don't they don't they play Lamar week one?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

851
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Wait, they do face Lamar? Yeah that was wrong.

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Speaker 4: I think they play week one?

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00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they open.

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Speaker 2: Against your right against Lamar. Oh, and they do play

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Speaker 2: Kansas City? Who am I getting that confused with? It

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Speaker 2: might be the Niners who have like the easiested That's

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 4: The Niners do have the easiest schedule.

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Speaker 3: They don't face Lamar Mahomes. Who are the other two?

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Speaker 2: Would Burrow and Jackson? They don't face any of them?

862
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: And it's like, how is that even possible? So, I mean,

863
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: do you believe in the Niners are not?

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Speaker 4: Really? So that's that's an interesting question because like I

865
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Speaker 4: wanted to say no when I looked at everything, but

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Speaker 4: why Like why am I? Why am I so out.

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Speaker 4: Why would I be.

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Speaker 5: Out on the Niners like they have the bulk of

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Speaker 5: their team coming back. Trent Williams. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 5: healthy he is or what's his deal, but like if

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Speaker 5: he played, I think he's a big He's a big

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00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 5: folkrum is that the word?

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Speaker 4: You know, He's a big.

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Speaker 5: He's a big spot in the in the in the

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Speaker 5: economy of whether you think they're going to be good

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Speaker 5: or bad, as if he's healthy. I personally think Kyle

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Speaker 5: Shanahan's an excellent coach. Maybe he's not the best big

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Speaker 5: game coach, but just in general he's I like his schemes,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, they're good. The division is kind of mediocre.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of why I thought the Rams were good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Seattle is going to be good and competent,

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Speaker 5: but they're not great. And Arizona's good and competent, not great.

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Speaker 5: Niners good great, good, but competent not great, and same kind.

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Speaker 4: Of with the Rams. So I can see a lot

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Speaker 4: of things happening in that division.

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Speaker 5: All those teams are kind of seven ten to ten

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Speaker 5: and seven type teams, so we'll just have to see,

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Speaker 5: like when they play each other, how how they match up.

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Speaker 5: How they're how they are injury wise, because the matchups.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you have a division with this closely

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Speaker 5: aligned teams, it's kind of like when you face guys,

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Speaker 5: I mean, is Kyler banged up for the week that

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Speaker 5: he plays the Niners or is he not?

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Speaker 4: You know, Uh, is Term Williams out that week? There's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of variants and when teams play each other and you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe did they come off of a hard game the

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Speaker 5: week before type thing?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll get you more on NFL in August for

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Speaker 2: predictions and so forth. But I like this, uh, buying

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Speaker 2: into a chunk of your survivor there.

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Speaker 3: I think the audience should pay close attention to that

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Speaker 3: one because.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, and you're every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Dave Baker superstar when it comes to

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Speaker 3: poker and NFL gambling. We'll talk to you, so man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one more thing before we get out there.

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Speaker 5: I started a podcast no Way and a friend of mine.

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Speaker 5: It's called Gamble Up. We have two episodes out already

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to be taping a third one right

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Speaker 5: after we're done with this.

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Speaker 4: It's called Gamble Up. You can catch it on all your.

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Speaker 5: Podcasters, Apple, U, Spotify, So I'd love that we're on YouTube,

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Speaker 5: you can subscribe. I'm gonna be you know, it's it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be poker centric when poker's around, but football time.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be all football.

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Speaker 5: Probably do a weekly talking about like what I've done

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Speaker 5: in the contest, what my bets are, what lean's are,

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Speaker 5: just some fantasy stuff, just anything gambling. So it's called

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Speaker 5: gamble up. If you look, the icon's got two dogs

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Speaker 5: playing poker on it. Find it on Apple, find it

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Speaker 5: on Spotify, on YouTube, and give us a listen and subscribe,

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Speaker 5: and and yeah, having back on your show right for

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Speaker 5: football season, we'll we'll shoot it up nice.

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Speaker 3: Congrats on the pod obviously, Dave, all right, thanks again,

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Speaker 3: all right, thank you