1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Throwing in so spec I'm sitting it to cash touch time. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: go to wind. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: That's incredible being bank small banks, I like to make money. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate kabine if you want 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: to pay. And we are underway. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I am your host, 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Evan Abrams, and I am joined as always on these 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: beautiful Sunday nights by the one and only Brandon Anderson. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: And this is it. This is the recap of week 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: eighteen before we head into the playoffs. We are coming 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: off the Sunday night football game between the Vikings and 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: the Lions. Of course, Brandon a Vikings fan, an unfortunate 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: set of circumstances there, so Brandon, I will bring you 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: in now. Obviously not in your Vikings Jersey would have 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: been a bit of a different story. But you know, 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: you can start us off. You know, Lines win the 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: game thirty one to nine over Minnesota. They cover is 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: a three point home favorite as the close total goes 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: way under the fifty six and a half. Obviously, and 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: I can get into some notes there, but Brandon go first. 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: First of all, Hello, and what do you think about 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: the game? 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously not my favorite way to end a 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: regular season, but you know it's not over. It is 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: a very familiar feeling for Vikings fans. Well, it's a 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: familiar feeling for any any football fans. Sometimes it's just 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: not your game, and this very much felt extremely all 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: throughout as this is just not the Vikings day. There 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: was the drop pick six that could have swung the 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: game as it was just getting away. There were how 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: many failed attempts inside the ten and five yard line? 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: In fact, I'll tell you how many. I believe by 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: Mike count, the Vikings ran eleven plays inside the ten. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: They scored three points total on all those plays. That 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: was on free possessions. True turner is undowns. Sam Darnold 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: had been the most accurate passer inside the ten for 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: the season. He was one of nine for three yards 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: in this game. I know we're going to get the 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: discourse on the fourth down stuff. I like it. You 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: know the Lions are going to score points, you know 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: the Lions are going to be aggressive. I think it's 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: right process, wrong result. I think you go for the touchdown. 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: You try to get the points. Take the points, take 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: the threes. All throughout the game Detroit scored thirty one. 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: You're not winning this game in this division in one 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: seed with a bunch of threes. So I don't have 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: a problem with that. Detroit to me, looked a lot 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: like what we saw last year in the playoffs, which 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: is they know that they're a little bit short decked 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: on defensive talent. Including big thing from this game. To me, 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: the biggest thing is Terry and Arnold out for the 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: game and we'll see how long he's out. The rookie 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: cornerback Carlton Davis already out. Detroit cannot lose more guys. 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: They also maybe lost guard Kevin Zeitler at the end 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: of the game. There They've got next week now, but 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: make sure to keep an eye on that. Definitely a 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: problem with them. But what Detroit did all game long 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: is they just kept bringing pressure. And look, they did 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: get pressure pretty well with just four men, but they 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: brought extra guys to That's Aaron Glenn's thing is we're 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: just going to bring pressure. They got to Donald. They 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: clearly rattled him his earmailing throws all night. Donald was 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: absolutely awful this game. Anyone that way to vote, I 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: don't think has given him their comeback clear of the 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: Year vote. After that one, we'll see about Kevin O'Connell 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: and Coach of the Year. I don't know exactly how 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: much you lose at the end of the season this way, 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: but the lines were two good Jamior Gibbs four touchdowns. 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: It's just not a good game for the Vikings. Looking forward, 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: the big picture is those injuries Terry Arnold and Kevin Zeitler. 75 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: The lines are so short staffed already, especially Arnold will 76 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: be a really big loss for them. You just can 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: only lose so many guys in the secondary. 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my notes at Arnold's circle. That was going to 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: be one of my topics. But starting from the top 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: on just a few things on this game. Total did 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: close at fifty six and a half. Lots of points 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: were expected, it was the highest total in three years. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: We were two Dome teams indoors, and the game just 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: really had the complete opposite effect. I think Detroit's offense 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: looked fine. He was GoF was hitting his targets. Obviously, 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: Gibbs his four touchdown that's just more based off of 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: play call, except you know, he had a few great 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: runs there at the end. Yeah, the Darnald overthrows to 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: me were the biggest issue, right, I mean oh to 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: four in the red zone, first four trips, I think 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: they might have ended at oh to four, and the overthrows, 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: I think it was eight overall, which would be the 93 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: most innate in a start in his career. So I 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: just felt like they were even a little jumpy. He 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: might have been a little nervous, but I did think 96 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: the pressure got to him. But Detroit had two turnovers, 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: they had more penalties, and Minnesota was still only down 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: one score when Van Ginkel probably should have intercepted it 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: for a touchdown, which you know, even without the two 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: point conversion, makes it a completely different game. But yeah, 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: I think you mentioned it as well, the third downs 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: and fourth downs three of sixteen. Minnesota just isn't gonna 103 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: do it. But I think the process was there, right, Like, 104 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I think the decisions were right all along, and if 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: a few more, you know, become touchdowns on those fourth downs, 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: I think he had won to Addison. That was a 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: great defensive play by Detroit, So one or two there, 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't look as lopsided. The one thing I 109 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: will say is this, so we get Minnesota now going 110 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: back to LA and I know we're going to talk 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: about all these playoff games a little bit, but we've 112 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: seen this story before, so we'll get there. We'll go 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: through it. The one thing about Detroit before we keep 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: going through the NFC and then we'll talk about the 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: matchups at the end of the NFC games. Detroit finishes 116 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: the last four years in the regular season forty seven 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: twenty and one against the spread over seventy percent. That's 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: the best stretch for any team in the Super Bowl era. 119 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: They have just been absolutely cover machines twelve and four, 120 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: twelve and four, eleven and five, twelve and four, like 121 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: un believable consistency. And now we see and with the 122 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: buy here in the one seat, if they can get 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: the job done. 124 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the formula we've seen for the Lions. 125 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: Like the stats that you gave are great, but they're 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: even better indoors at home in Detroit, and that's where 127 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: Detroit lives now until the Super Bowl. So yeah, that's 128 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: the spot now where Detroit has for all the injuries, 129 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: this gauls and a dome given them super Bowls in 130 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: a dome. So yeah, exactly. So they've given themselves a 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: shot now to win three shootouts, and they've shown that 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: their defense can at least hold its own against what 133 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: had been a really hot Minnesota passing attack. I think 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: I saw a stat Jamier Gibbs had as many touchdowns 135 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: tonight for as Jefferson and Addison had catches combined in 136 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: this game. That is just a formula that's not gonna 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: work for Minnesota. If Detroit can come up with solutions 138 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: like that in the NFC where I don't really see 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: a standout team. I don't think Detroit's a standout team 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: because of the defense right now, but if they don't 141 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: have another opponent that is that and they can win 142 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: some shootouts your two home games where they're on almost 143 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: invincible away from the super Bowl now where they wanted 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: to get last year. This game saved the season for Detroit. 145 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: I think unfortunately this game all but ended the season 146 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: for Minnesota. And that's what leverage was on at stake 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: here for this one. 148 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we've seen this story a lot. 149 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Two losses during tonight and Minnesota could have two losses 150 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: in like six days and their season could be over all. Right, 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: let's keep going with the NFC Chicago Green Bay. So 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: Chicago beats Green Bay. We haven't heard that one in 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: a while. Twenty four to twenty two as a ten 154 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: point underdog, total goes over forty one and a half. Really, 155 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: the only thing to say here is all the streaks 156 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: end up being broken. Bears when their first road game 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: on a Sunday since twenty twenty one, twenty straight losses, 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: last win came from Nick Foles. Bears had an eleven 159 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: game losing streak against the Packers and they'd lost ten 160 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: straight overall. And obviously the health of Jordan Love, which 161 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if we have too much information on 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: at the moment. But what else you have here? Chicago 163 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay? 164 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Packers had won twenty six of twenty nine 165 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: against Chicago, the infamous Aaron Rodgers, I own you to 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: the fans in Chicago. This one's in Green Bay. Honestly, 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: worst case scenario for Packers in this game. Christian Watson 168 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: leaves hurt that looks like possibly an ACL injury, that 169 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: receiving Core gets a little thinner. The Jordan Love thing 170 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: we don't know much yet, Like you said, but flexing 171 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: your hand and then it's an elbow injury. That to me, 172 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: it seems like a stinger sort of thing that I'm 173 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: not a doctor, obviously, but that sounds like an injury 174 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: we've seen on other guys where it can pop up 175 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: again where it's probably fine, you could come back in. 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 3: We saw him even warming up near the end of 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: the game to maybe come in and play the hero 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: when it looked like they need to get a drive 179 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: late in the game. But that's the sort of thing 180 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: that can come up again. He gets one little pop 181 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: in the cold weather, some bad you know, hit or 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: something that makes me really worried, and we'll get to 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: Green Bay, Philadelphia. We last saw Jalen Hurts leave with 184 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: a concussion. So we now have what I think is 185 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: easily the best and the biggest game next weekend. Both 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: quarterbacks gonna play, we have to assume, but definitely unknown. 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: Malik Willis almost saves the Packers season again. Seemed like 188 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: he was going to Chicago's up fourteen to three. Shouts 189 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: to Johnny Knox. They had the misdirection punt return like 190 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: a decade ago Johnny Knox had that play got waved 191 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: off against the Packers with a penalty they pulled off. 192 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: This time they go up big. Packers are battling back, 193 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: and then I thought the Bears were gonna end the 194 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: season classic Bears fashion, although they totally butchered clock management 195 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: at the end, but they get the walkout field goal 196 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: celebrate they in the super Bowl, and that's the thing 197 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: they did. This was their super Bowl at the end 198 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: of whatever that was ten or eleven losses in a row. 199 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: So good for them, terrible for the Packers. This is 200 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: the worst case outcome. At least they could have rested 201 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: and taken the day off and then taken the loss anyway. 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Now they lost, and while they were losing the game, 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: like almost simultaneous, Washington wins the game anyway, So even 204 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: if they had won, it wasn't gonna matter as it 205 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: turned out anyhow, and they probably lost Watson, and they've 206 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: got a worse version of Jordan Love. This is the team. 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: I've been loving the Packers as far as futures go, 208 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: but early in the season they were not looking that good. 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 3: Why I think because Jordan Love wasn't playing healthy. Now 210 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: here we are again. Started the playoffs the same way 211 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: that the regular season started week one, week eighteen, Join 212 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: Love injury right toward the end of the game. I'm 213 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: very worried about this team and Packers' futures. Now they 214 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: have to play Philadelphia instead. That is the worst spot 215 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: for them. It is a very bad outcome. I think 216 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: for the Packers, nearly as bad of an outcome, honestly 217 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: as it was for the Vikings. That's how bad it was. 218 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with that, especially with the 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: injuries and the fact you have to play Philly. Mostly 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: rested off the game today. That doesn't matter. You assume 221 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: Hurts is back and healthy, probably score a ton of points. 222 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Sa Quon's fresh as could be at this time of year, 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: yet not the best moods. Also Bears and Packers and 224 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: the regular season both one and five against the NFC North. 225 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: So fantastic, all right. Washington at Dallas, So Washington, as 226 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: you alluded to, beats Dallas twenty three to nineteen seven 227 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: point favorites. Dallas gets the cover total goes under forty 228 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: three and a half. The news here I had was 229 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: basically Trey Lance, which kind of broke on Sunday morning 230 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: this morning. In the terms of just starting we assumed 231 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: Cooper Rush was getting the start and had heard that 232 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Lance was going to get some reps. But no, he starts, 233 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: and boy did he just do everything. I mean thirty 234 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: four throws, six carries. I mean, he was kind of 235 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: all over the place in this game and trying to 236 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: do a lot. There was a Washington Lake comeback. Terrible 237 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: first half for them, though, which is kind of a 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: little alarming against his Dallas defense, where they only scored 239 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: three points. Mariota and Jaden end up leading the team 240 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: in rushing, which I think kind of says a lot 241 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: to what Brian Robinson has been a little bit of 242 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: both ways for them. But anything else here on Washington 243 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: and Dallas. 244 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, Dallas mostly dominated this game. They really should 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: have won the game. They let it until three seconds left. Washington, 246 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm goeing a little worried here. The quarterbacks between them 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: get sacked six times in this game. We've seen that 248 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: a lot from Washington down the stretch. That offensive line, 249 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: they added a lot of veterans. It looked good for 250 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: the first half the season. The run game was pretty good, 251 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: quarterbacking was good, and now that O line has really 252 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: fallen apart. I think that's going to make it really 253 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: tough for them to do make much noise. The other 254 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: thing for me is it's weird comparing Washington in Green Bay. 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: The Packers obviously go all out and try to go 256 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: for the win to improve their seeding, even though they 257 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: needed help. Washington didn't. Washington trails at the half six 258 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: to three, and benches Jayden Daniels to play Mariota. Okay, 259 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: why play him at all? Then? Why are you playing him? 260 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: He took four sacks in the first half and he 261 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: didn't play that well. Why are you risking him at 262 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: all if you're trying to not worry about your opponent. 263 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't really understand the process for that one. Trey 264 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: Lance obviously, as an NDSU fan, I'm watching him closely. 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: I don't have the Trey Lance Jersey or I probably 266 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: be rocking that tonight because it might be the last 267 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: chance I get to rock that one. He was terrible, 268 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: He was not good. I don't know that he's gonna 269 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: have a long life in the NFL. No pocket presence, 270 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: no like ticking clock in his head, missing guys, earmailing. 271 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: Even worse, Dallas was one of six in the red zone. 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: They had if fuel go from the four, they turn 273 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: it over at the two, you lose the game by four. Right, 274 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: So any one of those times in the red zone, 275 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: isn't the whole point of Trey Lance run the football 276 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: in as the quarterback. They didn't do that at all. 277 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: I don't know really what the point of Tree Lance 278 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: is if you're not gonna use him for that way. 279 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 3: So obviously Dallas season done. Washington last week, down seventeen 280 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: to seven at the half to a rookie quarterback making 281 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: his road debut. Washington this week, losing to Dallas at 282 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: the half, then losing with three seconds. They got over, 283 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: they got the wins. I'm worried. I think this is 284 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: probably the worst team in the NFC, maybe by margin, 285 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: and they made it don but they can't keep playing 286 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: this way because the competition is about to get a 287 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: lot tougher. 288 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if it was anybody but Tampa Bay 289 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: that had to face Washington, I would say Washington would 290 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: be a decent fade candidate. But I just don't even 291 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: know what to do with either of those teams. I 292 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of a tough line, to 293 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: be honest, But we can talk about that in a 294 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: second Carolina at Atlanta. So Carolina, what a wild one. 295 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Carolina wins this game in overtime forty four to thirty eight, 296 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: as seven and a half point dogs on the clothes 297 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: total goes over forty eight and a half. Just a 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: few notes before I toss it to you, So Drake 299 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: London ends up getting ten receptions in this game, which, 300 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: ironically enough, and I'd put this in my article gets 301 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: him exactly to one hundred this year, which will mean 302 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: something to him going forward. And also this is kind 303 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: of interesting, but first half overs in Carolina games, and 304 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: I know a bunch of xs Berts had kind of 305 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: bet on this a few times late in the season. 306 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: They ended up going fourteen and three for Carolina this year. 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: So just tons and tons of points in all of 308 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: their games. But the Panthers ended the year on a 309 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: real positive note seven to two against the spread since 310 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: November first. And I think the Atlanta note before I 311 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: sassed to you is just we really just should have 312 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: seen Michael Pennix much earlier. And it's so evident when 313 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: watching these games that it's just, you know, absolutely ridiculous 314 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: how we can find all these targets and he's able 315 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: to put up points and this is a guy who 316 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: is really just learning his way right now after watching Kirk. 317 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we need to work on 318 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: accuracy a little bit with Pennix and not even talking 319 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: about the interception that was a tip pass. He had 320 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: another one of those, I think last week. But he's 321 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: just some frozen ropes like he has putting it on 322 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: guys like Kirk Cousin just can't do at the stage 323 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: of his career. Honestly, just the best fun game of 324 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: the day. Like I know, it ended up actually not 325 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: even mattering because the Bucks ended up winning, and that 326 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: made this game irrelevant. Ironically enough tough for the Falcons 327 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: as it goes overtime, the Bucks end up coming back 328 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: to win their game or finishing things off, so the 329 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: Falcons play would ends up being meaning US overtime and 330 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: give up the seventy yard touchdown drive. That's that. But 331 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: Bryce Young, Michael Pennix, like we saw a glimpse of 332 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: the future here, hopefully a more fun NFC South future. 333 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 3: This was just a fun game. Bryce Young has five touchdowns, 334 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: two on the ground, three in the air, panics three 335 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: hundred yards and two scores back and forth. I think 336 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: I saw six ties, seven lead changes, we get a 337 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: walkoff touchdown. Panthers have over five hundred yards almost one 338 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: thousand yards combined, nine of eleven combined in the red zone. 339 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: I felt pretty good about the cap. Panthers Island baby 340 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: never wrong. Just early we were all right on Panthers 341 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: end all the way along. It's like two months early 342 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: on it. Honestly, Panthers defense was atrocious in this game. 343 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Atlanta had a sixty one percent success rate. The problem 344 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: is Atlanta's defense that had been better lately wasn't better 345 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: this game, and that was the cap on it. These 346 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: teams are pretty equal at this point of the season. 347 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: Carolina played the me equal and then got the winning 348 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: overtime fun game. I think you have to feel pretty 349 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: good about Price for next year, and then Ilano will 350 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: feel pretty good about Panics. But no more games for 351 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: either one of these teams now, because the Bucks came 352 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: back and one. 353 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, at least I have to give it to you. 354 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: For Panthers Island, I believe they finished five and twelve, 355 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: so they finished out of last place, so because they 356 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: finished tied with New Orleans, but I do think they 357 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: had the tiebreaker there, so at least a good end 358 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: of the season and NFC South, let's let's end this 359 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: year New Orleans Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay beats New Orleans 360 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: twenty seven to nineteen, not covering the massive fourteen and 361 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: a half points spread. And this was everybody and their 362 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 2: grandmother was bet in Tampa Bay here. I believe when 363 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: we started convincing me this morning, there was like eighty 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: four percent of the tickets on Tampa Bay. People just 365 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: assumed this was going to be an absolute blowout. Total 366 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: goes over forty four and a half. But it really 367 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: wasn't because Tampa Bay led, like I mean at New 368 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: Orleans led like sixteen to six, and Tampa Bay really 369 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: had to fight back here, I mean the end of 370 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: the game. The only drama was Mike Evans, which ends 371 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: up getting his three million dollar bonus, which was fantastic. 372 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: If you didn't see, Mike Evans did say he's going 373 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: to the casino with his family to play some blackjack 374 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: with some of his money, which is fantastic. And I'll 375 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: give you a stap before I toss to you. Baker 376 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: now closes a double digit favorite six times six and 377 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: oh straight up one in five against spreading those games, 378 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: so maybe he shouldn't be that big of a favorite 379 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: in any position. What else you got here, Brandon. 380 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a lot on the game here. The Saints 381 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: had been the better team in the first half all seasons, 382 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: so it wasn't real surprising to see them fall apart 383 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: in the second half. Bucks have been a good second 384 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: half team as well. Fourth straight division title definitely not 385 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: one that I had. I had the Bucks last in 386 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: the division coming of the season. Baker looks like the 387 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: real deal. And Baker's a lot of fun man, seeing 388 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: him rip the ball over the place. Look, I know 389 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm raining on the parade here. Mike Evans, 390 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: I'm real glad he guys money. I'm super glad he 391 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: guys money. That play was ridiculous and so far still, 392 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers have just clinched the division. All they have 393 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: to do is neil one time and the game is over. 394 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: But they're up by one score. They throw a pass 395 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: to Evans that everybody knows is coming. The Saints have 396 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: to know it's coming. It's the only reason you to 397 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: run a play there. If that pass is up by 398 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: like six inches and gets tipped up in the air, 399 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: the Saints pick it off and go pick six. You 400 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: might throw the entire season away trying to get him 401 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: to as they said on the broadcast, tie Jerry Rice's 402 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: record of eleven consecutive one thousand yard seasons. Nobody knows 403 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: that record. Jerry Race doesn't even know that record. Jerry 404 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: Race has one hundred other records that matter more than that. 405 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: I thought it was ridiculous. I'm happy he got paid. 406 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm glad he got there to betters. Everyone wanted to 407 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 3: bet the eighty five yard That's what he needed, right, 408 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: and the five catches. So he finishes at nine for 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: eighty nine. He got over. Unfortunately, as we saw a 410 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: recurring theme, a lot of the day books set these 411 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: lines accordingly. The line closed at ninety yards. That was 412 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: like the lowest you could get on any of the 413 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: Mike Evans overs. So even with that farcicle play to 414 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: end things, eighty nine yards still hit all the unders 415 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: all the way down. So I don't know. I hate 416 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: to be the party pooper on that one, but I 417 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: thought that was an absolute absurd decision. 418 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Farvian where you know whereus the 419 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: straight hand gets the sack and all that different type 420 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: of stuff. It just it felt a little farcical to 421 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: get the play done. But moving on from that, he 422 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: got his you know, he got his incentive, he got paid. 423 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of fun stuff, the Kyle Vanoy, the 424 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: Von Miller, there was, you know, a lot of fun stories. 425 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: That one was a little dangerous. But all right, let's 426 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: do the NFC bracket now. So Detroit's got the one seed. 427 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: I think they are the walking dead in a number 428 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: of different ways, and I think they deserve the bye week, 429 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: probably more than any other team. It'll probably do them 430 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: the best of any team. So I think they're dangerous. 431 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: They're at home, and it should be very, very fun 432 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: to see who has to end up going there try 433 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: to take down the Giants. The next game we'll talk 434 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: about is Rams and Vikings, and I'll toss it to 435 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: you first before I kind of I looked up some 436 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: stats and obviously they played a few weeks ago in 437 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: Week eight, so you kind of have a bit of 438 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: a preemptive strike on this matchup. But what are your thoughts. 439 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: It's not a great spot for Minnesota. I'm not gonna 440 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: lie and I know I'm a Vikings pessimist. I know, 441 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: like as a fan, that's always going to creep in there, 442 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: but it is a really tough emotional bounce back spot 443 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: to go from. We should be home on the bye 444 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: week right now, and instead we blew it so badly 445 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: that now we're on the road immediately the week later. 446 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: And the Vikings only lost a game one time earlier 447 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: this season, that was to the Lions. And what did 448 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: they do. They played immediately the next week in Los 449 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Angeles against the Rams and they lost by double digits. 450 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: They know that, So maybe that's motivation. Maybe it's like, Okay, 451 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: we get a second chance that this thing, let's bounce 452 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: back at it. But I know I've got some kind 453 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 3: of the wild card trends here. The Rams as a 454 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: home playoff team against the team that did not make 455 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: the playoffs last year. That's a very positive trend for 456 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: the Rams. Went up with ten out of last year's 457 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: fourteen playoff teams came back again the season, so not 458 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: a lot of turnover there. We had no worse to 459 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: first team this year in the division. A lot of chalk, 460 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: as we kind of saw throughout the year, played out 461 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: toward the playoffs as well. Yeah, Stafford was able to 462 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: really pick apart this Minnesota defense and Brian Floores of 463 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: the pressure cannot get home. I thought Puka had a 464 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: monster game against Minnesota last time. I think he could 465 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: be a good prop play. That's our Monday night game, 466 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: So that one we'll preview more a week from now 467 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: on Sunday Night. But certainly I'll be watching. But I'm worried. 468 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: I think the vikings, the numbers say historically it's a 469 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: pretty tough spot for them to go on the road there. 470 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, my notes were basically the Flores, blitz and Stafford. 471 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: So I did look this up. Stafford this year eight touchdowns, 472 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: two interceptions when he's blitzed. When he's not blitzed, twelve touchdowns, 473 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: six interceptions, all right, pretty comparable when he's getting pressure, 474 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, six picks. When he's kept clean in the pocket, 475 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: eighteen touchdowns, two interceptions. And so when you had this 476 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: game against Minnesota, he had four touchdowns and one interception 477 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: in the game, all when he wasn't blitzed. And he 478 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: had three touchdowns and no interceptions in a clean pocket 479 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: in that game. So the blitz really didn't impact him 480 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: at all. I believe it. I didn't look this up. 481 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: I believe he had a pretty quick release in that 482 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: game and that's kind of what got him exactly what 483 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: the result was, which is a ten point win against 484 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 2: Minnesota in their last loss. So I think those stats 485 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: are interesting. Also, no sacks for Stafford in that game, 486 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: so not only were there no pressure, there were you know, 487 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: he wasn't on his butt at all, which I think 488 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: is very noteworthy entering this matchup. All right, so the 489 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: next game would be Tampa Bay and Washington. That is 490 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: the three to six. The only note I have on 491 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 2: this game. It is right now. The highest total of 492 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: any game of the weekend is fifty and a half 493 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: at the moment, which I thought I find kind of interesting. 494 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: We've been seeing a lot of high scoring games with 495 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay as long as the other team can keep 496 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: up with them. So I kind of wonder, with Washington's 497 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: style and the way Jayden runs up and down the field, 498 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: that they're expecting a bunch of points here. But what's 499 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: your thought, Tampa Washington. 500 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of with what you said earlier to me. 501 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: Of all the six games on the schedule, this is 502 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: the one I feel like I have the least feel for. 503 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: I don't know I'm gonna end up on a really 504 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: strong position here. Just these are the teams to me 505 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: that out of the fourteen teams in the field, these 506 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: have been my last two probably picks in as just 507 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: playoff teams. These are not teams that I thought to 508 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: get here, and I don't feel like I've totally caught 509 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: up to having the right perspective on them, and are 510 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: pretty similar teams. They're kind of like Voderline top ten offenses, 511 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: not that great on defense. I think Tampa will be 512 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: able to run some. I think Washington should be able 513 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: to pass some. Really Interestingly, Mike Evans for his career, 514 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: the one team that he has never played well against 515 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: is the Saints, who we played today, except he did 516 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: well today because Latimore is not there anymore. Latimore is 517 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: in this game matching up against Mike Evans again, assuming 518 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: he's healthy to go, so I think that's important. Tampa 519 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: Bay needs Evans to be able to do some stuff 520 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: otherwise they don't have a ton of other weapons. With 521 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: God went out a couple angles, I'll be watching that 522 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: same trend. I just mentioned home teams that made last 523 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: year's playoffs against the team that did not that fits 524 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: here again, that's advantage Tampa debut quarterback playoff obviously rookie 525 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: Jaye and Daniels obviously it's his debut. And then first 526 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: half second half. Washington's defense has been way better in 527 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: the first half, and mentioned with Tampa, they've been a 528 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: way better second half. They're thirteen and four second half ats, 529 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: Washington's below five hundred. So I wouldn't be surprised if 530 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: this is kind of a game that hangs around for 531 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: a while, maybe goes back and forth, a bit of 532 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: a shootout. This one's Sunday night, so this will be 533 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: the one that we're talking on right after next time. 534 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: This is to me, there's usually one game out of 535 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: the sixth this round that's like, oh, sure, I'll watch that. 536 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: That'll be fun. Let's see who's gonna lose in the 537 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: next round. That sort of is what this game feels 538 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: like to me, Like one of these teams is the 539 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: team that everyone hopes to draw next round instead of 540 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: all the other options that are available. Sorry, that's just 541 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 3: how it goes. It's gonna be a fun game, but 542 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: I think it'll be close. I think the line's about right. 543 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't have to play on this one yet. 544 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, funny that you just said that, because as I'm 545 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: sitting here, it looks like Tampa Bay just moved to 546 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: three and a half. That would be the first move 547 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: off of the open at three. So we'll see what 548 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: that looks like by the time everyone listens to this. 549 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: Our last NFC game is Eagles Packers. I'll just give 550 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: you some of the easy ones here. So Eagles and 551 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: Packers did play, ready, they played in Week one. Philly 552 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: won the game thirty four to twenty nine, if you 553 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: remember in Brazil. It's interesting enough that Hurts is two 554 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: and zero against Lafloor in his career, and so thirty 555 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: four to twenty nine and then forty thirty three, so 556 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: both very high scoring matchups. One against Love, one against 557 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: Rogers this one as well, and this is what's kind 558 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: of getting me a little scared on the Green Bay side. 559 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: So Hurts has played three playoff game not on the road, 560 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: so basically home or neutral, including the Super Bowl. He 561 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: scored thirty five, thirty one, and thirty eight in those games. 562 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: So you just kind of have to expect that Philly 563 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: is going to put up the points that they need 564 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: to in this one, especially. You know, even if they're 565 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: having a little rust with the fact that they had 566 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: to take a week off, you do assume that Philly 567 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: is going to get things right here. And here's one 568 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: more on the Green Bay side that I did look up, 569 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: So Philly's past, he has been incredible this year. I 570 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: believe one seventy five or so best in the league. 571 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: So Lafleur has actually done a decent job. He's seven 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: and four in games versus really good pass defenses, four 573 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: and one with Loved and won five straight. So he's 574 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: done a decent job at putting up enough points in 575 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: those games and kind of holding down those pass defenses. 576 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: But I feel like Hurts is going to get his 577 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: in this one. But what's your thought on the matchup? 578 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this obviously is the biggest game of the weekend, 579 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: I think. To me, I say obviously, but it's obviously 580 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: to me. The reason being, I think these are the 581 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: two best teams in the NFC right now. I neither 582 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: the two best all around teams. I think this is 583 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship, which means the way that I will 584 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: want to bet this game, And I don't know which 585 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: side yet because especially I don't know how I feel 586 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: about the two quarterbacks injury status going in. But whoever 587 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: I like in this game, whenever I get to a 588 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: pick on it, that's the futures that I'm looking at. 589 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: I want NFC futures as a proxy for the money 590 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: line in this game, because in any other scenario to 591 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: the bracket, I have wanted Green Bay against whoever they played, 592 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: and Philly against whoever they played. Instead they're playing each other. 593 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: That's how this goes sometimes. I guess you could say 594 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: for the rest of the NFC. The good news for them, 595 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: if I'm right that these are the two best teams, 596 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: is one of them is going to be out right 597 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: away in the first round. So that's good. If you're 598 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: an ansty sleeper, you only have to beat one of these two, 599 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: not both of them now because of how the bracket went. 600 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: That's another really good like this was a dream scenario 601 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: for the Lions, for example, who by the way, aren't 602 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: really afraid of the Packers. A key matchup here. The Packers' 603 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: defense has been really good lately, but not against the 604 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: middle of the field. The Lions you just saw tonight 605 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: against the Vikings carved up the middle of the field. 606 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: The Eagles don't do that. The Eagles have not attacked 607 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: the middle of the field very well with Jalen Hurts 608 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: ever at any point, So will they do that? Can 609 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: he do that in a matchup where they're vulnerable there? 610 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting. I don't know the answer 611 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: to that yet. It's a very intriguing matchup. It's for 612 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: sure the one that I'll be watching the most tape on, 613 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: looking the most into the data. It probably is a 614 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: game honestly, and the regular season i'd pass on and 615 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: be like, I don't really know how I feel about 616 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: this game. We'll watch and learn. Can't watch and learn 617 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: because this is the spot where I think one of 618 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: these teams probably comes out of the NFC, And if 619 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: I watch and learn, I've lost a possibility to invest here. 620 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: So I think this is the key game to dig 621 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: in and find your angle on. It's the game that 622 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: I will be most excited for next weekend for sure. 623 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a fun prop game. 624 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 2: I look forward to digging in it as well. All Right, 625 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: So that is the NFC. I'll give you my one 626 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: stat which is a few different things here that I 627 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: kind of want to break down and then we will 628 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: go into the AFC slate. So we had a huge 629 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: year of favorites and we've been talking about it for weeks, 630 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: but the one o'clock window was extra special because dogs 631 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: went seven and one against the spread. It was the 632 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: most one PM Eastern covers for dogs in almost two years, 633 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: so a nice turnaround. But favorites still went twelve and 634 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: four straight out this week. They've been twelve and four, 635 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: are better every week since week thirteen. They are seventy 636 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: two and twenty one straight up seventy seven percent since 637 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: week thirteen, and they end end the year at almost 638 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: seventy two percent, so pretty crazy overall. And then the 639 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: one stat which we had talked about on the favorites 640 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: on convinced me all week is basically fading the teams 641 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: that needed to win to get into the playoffs against 642 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: eliminated teams. That was the Bucks, Falcons and Dolphins, and 643 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 2: they went zero to three against the spread. So that 644 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: trend kind of ended up coming to fruition, especially with 645 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: those inflated lines. That's now one, eight, sixty nine and 646 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: four since nineteen ninety, so very very interesting. Week eighteen 647 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: stuff with incentives and milestones, and it's a fun, fun 648 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: week for a lot of us. But one more, I'll 649 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: give you years favorites and night games. Uh and obviously 650 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: now we've got a few night games coming up in 651 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs, but crazy favorites a night game this year 652 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: forty seven and twelve eighty percent, only twelve underdogs one 653 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: night games the entire twenty twenty four season, as the 654 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: best mark since nineteen seventy one. Had to look back 655 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: for that one. But that is that is my big stats. 656 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Let's go into the AFC. Now, Brandon Case Denver is 657 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: where we're gonna start here. So Denver wins the game 658 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: thirty eight nothing over Kansas City. I know a lot 659 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: of us liked Case in this one, just absolutely never 660 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: had a shot the entire time. Denver wins the game, 661 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: covers a ten and a half point favorites, total goes 662 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: under forty and a half. I mean Denver clinch at 663 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 2: the end of the first quarter. Basically in this one, 664 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: they led twenty four to nothing at half. Nicks looked efficient, composed, accurate, confident. 665 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean, these are all like the adjectives I use 666 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: while watching this game. I mean, I'm you know, I 667 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: understand that it was a second tier defense, and I 668 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: understand that Spags has pretty much given them the Sea 669 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: package out there. But he really did look good overall, 670 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: and I think he's looked good lately the ones that 671 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: I looked up, which I think says to his composure. 672 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: This year, he has thirteen passing touchdowns and one interception 673 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: when leading, which I think just says a lot about 674 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: how Denver's been able to hold these games together with 675 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: a really good defense, and I think Sean Payton's just 676 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: really helped the development. But from Bo's point of view, 677 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: nine touchdowns and one pick in his last three games 678 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: and during the playoffs, I think he has confidence, which 679 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: I said before, and I think that's really going to 680 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: help some stats before I get your opinion, if you've 681 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: any to say here. So Bo Nicks finishes a year 682 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: twelve and five ats, is a rookie, the most profitable 683 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL against the spread. And the crazy 684 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: thing about Casey in this game, they literally wanted to 685 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: end this game immediately. They had thirty three offensive plays 686 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: in this game, which is I believe the lowest by 687 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: eight of any team this year. So just absolutely finished 688 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: before the game even started. And then you talk about 689 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: Denver and Buffalo, which we'll get to a little bit later, 690 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: but that that is the matchup which we get. This 691 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: weekend spread is about eight and a half. But anything 692 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: else to add there Casey Denver. 693 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, the thirty three plays that 694 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 3: Chie has finished with ninety eight yards, that is a 695 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: double digit yard total on the day. They were a 696 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: fifteen percent one to five percent success rate on the day. 697 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: That's the zero percent dile including on only ten run 698 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 3: plays for the day, zero percent success rate. They did 699 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: not have a successful running play at any point in 700 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: the entire game, just completely And I've never seen a 701 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 3: number like that before. Obviously you can't get any worse 702 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: than that. Yeah, like you said, this was da No 703 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: Carson wentz Jersey for me tonight. They didn't even show up. 704 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a sad one altogether. Let's keep going here, Miami Jets. 705 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: Jets beat Miami thirty two to twenty two and a 706 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: half point favorites, so it goes over thirty nine and 707 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: a half, just like every other Jet game. Jets were 708 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: plus two and a half at some point and of 709 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: course closed his favorites, says they closed minus two and 710 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: a half in this one with even more late steam. 711 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: Obviously Steam ends up being correct here, so Rogers ends 712 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: up actually going eighteen drives between the Rams, Bills and 713 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: Dolphins games without touchdowns, and then he finally hits Conklin 714 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: for five hundred and yes it wasn't Davante. It ends 715 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: up being Conklin. But the greatest thing about basically the 716 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: stretch of Devonte and New York is ends up having 717 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: twelve targets today, has double digit targets in seven of 718 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: his last nine games since the Thursday Night football win 719 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: against Houston, so Rogers was giving him the rock literally 720 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: as many different opportunities as possible. 721 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, enjoy your retirement, buddy, next game. 722 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, though, he threw four touchdowns 723 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: in the game, first four touchdown game for him since 724 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, so at least he ended on a 725 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: high note and made the Jets pick worse. But all right, 726 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: let's keep going. Let's keep going here. Obviously Miami gets eliminated, 727 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: but I think they really did the best they could 728 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: to end the season. No Tua situation a little bit difficult. 729 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: Now Tyreek wants out, So they will figure that out 730 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: in the offseason. But let's do the Saturday games now quickly, 731 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: so Cleveland and Baltimore. So Baltimore wins a game thirty 732 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: five to ten, covers his nineteen and a half point 733 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: favorite to close total goes over forty two. Like right 734 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: before Zappi through the pick six when we went back 735 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: to back punts, I was like, what if that was 736 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: the note I wrote. I was like, this is a 737 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: little interesting, and then it kind of just ended. Jill 738 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: who obviously he works here at the Action Network tweeted like, 739 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: what if ben Zappi gets benched? And then like through 740 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: the pick six. Three seconds later he was benched and 741 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: we saw dtr again. So I mean, from Baltimore's point 742 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: of view, Henry and Lamar both look great. Nice to 743 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: get them on a high note entering the playoffs. Now 744 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: a home playoff him against Pittsburgh, which we will talk 745 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 2: about in a second. And my other note here, Rashad 746 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: Bateman looks he was like a three. He actually now 747 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: looks like a pretty good two, which makes Baltimore I 748 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: think a little bit more dangerous in the past game. 749 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: Now maybe that's more Lamar than it is Bateman, but 750 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: I do feel like he's become more reliable and I'm 751 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: kind of seeing this in their offense. That's just kind 752 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: of my opinion without some numerical backdrop there. But I 753 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: will say this, the Baltimore Pittsburgh matchup is kind of 754 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: good now also because of rest, which both of them 755 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: playing on the Saturday game kind of on the same 756 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: exact schedule, just makes it easier there. I'll give my 757 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: notes when we talk about the AFC in terms of 758 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: the matchup itself, but any thoughts Cleveland Baltimore. 759 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: Not much on this game. We got the fat Man 760 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: interception Michael Pierce. That was a good highlight for Saturday. 761 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: A lot of fun there. Bateman, as you said, is 762 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: a good number two now. I think that's true. Unfortunately, 763 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: the real takeaway from this game is that Zay Flowers 764 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 3: left hurt and he might miss next week. It looks 765 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: like so now Bateman's number one, and he is certainly 766 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: not a number one receiving depth chart after these guys, 767 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 3: Tylan Wallace, maybe Steven Simms. It's not great. The Steelers 768 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: corners are very beatable. I think we're probably go to 769 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: get a lot of two tight ends in that game 770 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 3: a lot. Isaiah likely out there with Mark Andrews. It's 771 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: a team you want to be able to do that with. 772 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: Their tight ends are pretty good. But I think that 773 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 3: will be an interesting twist there, maybe take away an 774 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: advantage that Baltimore could have had. Zay Flowers just made 775 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl only you should have, but certainly a 776 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: good receiver and a big miss for them. Last note, 777 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 3: just because I have to kind of poke a little 778 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: bit more, don't forget as farst as this game was, 779 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: this team beat the Ravens earlier this season. That's what 780 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 3: a symbolic loss it was. That, by the way, is 781 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: why Lamar Jackson's not the MVP this year. 782 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about the Flowers news. And the only 783 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: thing I can think of is if only Deontay Johnson, 784 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: I guess would have worked out, he would have been 785 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: a decent option at this point, but not for this situation. 786 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: All right. Next Saturday game was Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, and 787 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: this was the one that we were hoping was kind 788 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: of gonna live up to the billing. But Cincinnati beats 789 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh nineteen to seventeen as a two and a half 790 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: point favorite on close total goes under forty eight and 791 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: a half. My only notes here are the fact that 792 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I feel like the Bengals asked to give this game 793 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 2: away like forty five times, like when it was nineteen 794 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: whatever the score was, and Pittsburgh kept, like, you know, 795 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: stalling and kicking and just staying close. I just kept 796 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: writing down and saying to myself that when I rewatched 797 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 2: film and kind of look back at this one, I 798 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: feel like Pittsburgh had a lot of opportunities to just 799 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 2: take this game away and it just didn't happen. Cincinnati 800 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: opened this game with a touchdown drive. They then went 801 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: field goal, turnover, on downs, punt, interception, field goal, field goal, 802 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: field goal, punt, punt, and then just won the game. 803 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 2: So I don't necessarily think, and I know Cincinnati season 804 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: is now over, I don't necessarily think they ended on 805 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: the best note possible. They didn't exactly score thirty five 806 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: points and dominated Pittsburgh. Cincinnati more penalties, more turnovers if 807 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: you were rushing yards, and they ended up winning on 808 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: the road, which I think also says something about the 809 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: current state of Pittsburgh, which I can go into a 810 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: little bit more when we talk about Baltimore. But losing 811 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: four straight, scoring seventeen or less than all four. Just 812 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: not looking good there. But what else do you have 813 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: here on Cincinnati Pitt. 814 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to rock the Bengals shirt because the Bengals, 815 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: they must be the one seed, right They have the 816 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 3: league leader in passing yards, passing touchdowns, receiving yards, receiving 817 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: touch triple crown sacks. Trey Hendrickson had three sacks in 818 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 3: this game to close out the game. How do you 819 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: have all that stuff and not even make the playoffs. 820 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: It's a crazy season for the Bengals. This was a 821 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: classic raw raw voodoo Mike Tomlins spot as much as 822 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: you could get. Like, the Bengals dominated this game. They 823 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: had over one hundred more yards, they had the ball 824 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: two thirds of the game, fifty two to thirty four 825 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 3: percent success rate like this was not close at all. 826 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 3: But here are the Steelers scoring their one touchdown late. 827 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 3: Here's the fumble bouncing off the Bengals guys foot because 828 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: of course, because Mike Tomlin so just a really weird 829 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 3: one and that's why those Tomlin trends somehow seem to 830 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 3: always get across. Steelers are on a four game losing streak. 831 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: Entering the playoffs now all of them ugly. This should 832 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 3: have been uglier. The other three were by double digits. 833 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: They're the third team ever to enter the playoffs on 834 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: a four game losing streak. Not since nineteen ninety nine 835 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: Lions has it happened. Here's the good news for the Steelers. 836 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 3: Those Lions lost by fourteen. The other one was the 837 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: eighty six Jets. They were on a five game losing streak. 838 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: They won by twenty in the next game at home. 839 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how you lose five to Rowe and 840 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: get a home game. Must have been an awful division. 841 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: But they have won a game, then lost by three 842 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: and overtime. So maybe a little bit of hope for 843 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: the Steelers. They are now over the last thirteen years 844 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: with Tomlin, three and eight in playoff games, currently in 845 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: a five game playoff losing streak. And I guess I 846 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 3: had a Steelers fan friend texting me about this today. 847 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: Here's the glass half full. The Steelers' roster is a 848 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: seven or eight win roster every year. We know this, 849 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: we all talk about this in the preseason. But Mike 850 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 3: Tomlin is an excellent coach and they get an extra 851 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: winner two where they shouldn't. They get over five hundred, 852 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: they sneak into the playoffs, and then they lose because 853 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: they're a seven or eight win team masqu rating as 854 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: a playoff contender. That's what this team basically was all season. 855 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: That's what they look like right now, and then they 856 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 3: made the playoffs. So how can you make a change? 857 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 3: Bring Tomlin back, bring the guys back, run it back again, 858 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 3: bring back the seven sort of win team. Overachieve again 859 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 3: by a win or two. We'll be right back here 860 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: again last next year. We were here last year. That 861 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: just seems what the Steelers are at this point. Again, 862 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: this is one of those games that felt like an 863 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: elimination game. Feels like we're giving the obituary for the Steelers, 864 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 3: So we're not. They still have a game to come. 865 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: We'll talk about it against the Ravens, certainly an opponent 866 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 3: that we have seen them play a lot against. 867 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a matchup that won't be too difficult to 868 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: analyze as we do it twice a year, and feels 869 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: like a relatively close team as we do it all 870 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: the time. All right, last game before we go into 871 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: these matchups, Chargers Raiders. So Chargers win the game thirty 872 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 2: four to twenty is a seven point road favorite. Total 873 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 2: goes over forty two and a half. The only note 874 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: I had here is just lots of overs in eliminated games. 875 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: It felt like today San Francisco Arizona had like sixty 876 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 2: seven points, this game ends up having fifty four points. 877 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: Just felt like a lot of random offense, which might 878 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: be just something to look into and remember for next year. 879 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 2: But literally no lost momentum for Herbert here, five touchdowns, 880 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: no picks in his last two games they needed both. 881 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: He actually went all seventeen games with an even touchdown 882 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: to interception or better in every game, only three picks 883 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 2: the entire season, and the interceptions they won. Two of 884 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: those three games they had a pick, so really even 885 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: wasn't a detrimental pick to the outcome in most of 886 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: those situations. From Vegas's point of view, they obviously wanted 887 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: to get Meyers the ball. It seemed like he wanted 888 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: to get to a thousand yards. He had a ton 889 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 2: of looks in this game. Bowers got all the records. 890 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 2: Time for a new quarterback on that team is really 891 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: the best way to explain it. And then now Chargers 892 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: at Texans for the playoffs. They will open the playoffs 893 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: as the Texans do, as religiously as almost anything else 894 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: in football. I believe I saw a tweet that's going 895 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: viral right now where it's every time as Saturday at 896 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: three thirty. Well, here we are at Saturday at four thirty, 897 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 2: so an our difference. But we can talk about the bracket. 898 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: But you have anything else, Houston Chargers. I mean, I'm sorry, 899 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 2: Vegas Chargers. 900 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 3: Nothing out on this game. Let's just get to the bracket. 901 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: All right, So one seed Chiefs obviously the bye here. 902 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 2: By the time we see Kansas City play football, we 903 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 2: probably haven't seen Mahomes in like twenty five days at 904 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 2: that point, so well, maybe one of the widest rests 905 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: we've ever seen for an offense in the starting quarterback. 906 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: But before we see the Chiefs, we'll start with Texans 907 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 2: and the Chargers. At the moment, the spread is Chargers 908 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: minus three over under at forty three and a half. 909 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: You can start with this. What are your thoughts? 910 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: It's an interesting game. I really like the defenses here, 911 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: so we'll come back to that on the hot read. 912 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 3: But I do think this is maybe just because it 913 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: feels familiar, because it's the Texans. This feels like the 914 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: classic Saturday opening playoff game. I think we're gonna get 915 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: a very slow start, a slog of a game. I 916 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 3: think we'll get a lot of defense here, a lot 917 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 3: of kg settling for field goals, get some points on 918 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 3: the board. Both Harbaugh and Demiko Ryan's very good coaches, 919 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 3: but tend to be pretty conservative take the points sort 920 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 3: of coaches. I don't think we're gonna get a ton 921 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 3: of points in this game. I think though you've got CJ. Stroud, 922 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: you've got Justin Herbert. We know who the top three 923 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 3: four quarterbacks are in the NFL. Those are the guys. 924 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 3: Those are among the guys that were waiting to say, okay, 925 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 3: are you top five? Are you in that mix of guys? 926 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 3: And one of them is going to get a playoff 927 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 3: win here and then in all likelihood go to Kansas 928 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 3: City and a shot at Patrick Mahomes. After that, you 929 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: never know neither one of them is the guy yet, 930 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 3: but this might be the spot that propels them forward. 931 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 3: I think, big picture, here's the look that I have 932 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 3: big picture even past this game. The Chargers all one 933 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 3: to five this season against teams that had qualified for 934 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 3: the playoffs before Sunday. That doesn't count. Denver, Denver, just 935 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 3: knock in. They had some ugly losses to Baltimore, to Tampa. 936 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: They were eleven and one against everyone else. That's fine, 937 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: you do what you do. Took care of business, but 938 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: they didn't beat the good teams. Houston is the same things. 939 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: Houston one in five against playoff teams. They did beat 940 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 3: Buffalo early in the season, nine and two against everyone else. Well, 941 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 3: guess what. That doesn't help in this game because I 942 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 3: don't know if they're both frauds, and I don't know 943 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 3: who's supposed to be the last fraud of the game, 944 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 3: but one of them is probably the Chiefs next opponent. So, 945 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 3: like you said, here we are again. After all, we 946 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 3: talked about the Chiefs all year long. I know what 947 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 3: they did today, it didn't matter. That wasn't the Chiefs 948 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 3: at all. They're gonna be arrested, very arrested, waiting for 949 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 3: unless the Bills or Ravens get upset one of these 950 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 3: two teams. And even if they do get upset, then 951 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 3: it's the Steelers the Broncos that the Chiefs get. We 952 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 3: are staring down the barrel of the Chiefs getting one 953 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: of these teams, beating teams that have not beaten a 954 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: team like them yet, and being hosting the AFC Championship 955 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 3: game yet again. And I guess the Chiefs futures are 956 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: the right investment again somehow, because that's the way the 957 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 3: bracket has broke for them. So it's gonna be an 958 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 3: interesting game. I think it's one of those where it's 959 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: like who's got the ball last, whose kicker made a 960 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: field goal, or who missed one. It'll be interesting. I 961 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 3: want to watch it, I think to me and the AFC, 962 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 3: it's the version of the Bucks Commanders. It's like, Okay, 963 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 3: who wins the game that the other teams hope to 964 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: play against next. So I think that's probably where we 965 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 3: had here. But I do like the under. We'll come 966 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 3: back to that in the hot raid. 967 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying not to give it away because 968 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 2: that was kind of I liked it as well. I 969 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 2: bet at under forty four and a half, but we'll 970 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 2: talk about that later. A few stats that I thought 971 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: were interesting, so Houston's actually pretty decent pass defense, Top 972 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: six DVOA versus number one wide receivers, fourth versus tight ends, 973 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 2: and even EPA there's sixth in dropback EPA for the season, 974 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 2: So I do think they're going to give the Chargers 975 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 2: offense some sort of trouble. I mean, Herbert feels like 976 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: he's been able to toss it all over the place 977 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: with Ladd and Johnston, and their offense feels more complete 978 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: than I thought it would be this year when they 979 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: lost all those Keenan and Mike Williams and all that stuff. 980 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: But Houston's defense should give them some sort of trouble here. 981 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: So that was definitely the note that I looked at, 982 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 2: and the other one I thought I thought was kind 983 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: of interesting. I mean, this is pretty much the same 984 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: role stroud was in last year. I mean he closed 985 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: plus two at home against Cleveland fourteen. Cleveland was a 986 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: good defense, obviously a different offensive situation, but either way, 987 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Strouds started nine home games as a dog 988 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: or a favorite of less than three. He's six and 989 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: three ats in those games. So if Houston's defense shows 990 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: up and you know, obviously no tank, no digs, I mean, 991 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 2: they're missing so many offensive pieces that I felt like 992 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 2: what made them the preseason expectations they had, So who 993 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 2: knows what this one? 994 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: All? 995 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 2: Right? The next matchup Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Crazy. I mean, 996 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: you kind of saw this one coming on the map 997 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: and you said yourselves, all right, we're gonna get it again, 998 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: and then you're getting it in. The spread is nine 999 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: and a half, which feels so on Baltimore and Pittsburgh. 1000 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 2: Like especially, we just saw a game where not usually 1001 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: something we see in the series, but Baltimore kind of 1002 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: blew them out and Pittsburgh has not looked like Pittsburgh lately, 1003 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: so you can start here. What are your thoughts Raven Steelers. 1004 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, we kind of know this matchup, right. 1005 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 3: We just did this one a couple of weeks ago. 1006 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 3: We had this one as a hot red pick because 1007 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: you always take the hot red pick on Baltimore Pittsburgh. 1008 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 3: You know how you're betting you've got the underdog, you 1009 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 3: take the under That's how y'alls do it. Do those 1010 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 3: trends work in the playoffs and do they still fit 1011 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 3: or the Ravens just way better like we saw in 1012 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: the last matchup where neither one of those trends hit. 1013 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 3: The Ravens finally won a game by more than a score. 1014 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: We'd had nine straight one score games in this ravel 1015 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 3: reintil that one. We'd had six straight games thirty four 1016 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 3: points or blow until that one. So I don't have 1017 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 3: a hot read on this game, in part because if 1018 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 3: you want the underdog or the under, I don't think 1019 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: you need to rush to grab it right now. Pittsburgh's 1020 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 3: not going to get below a touchdown here. The line's 1021 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 3: not going to move that far, So it's possible the 1022 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 3: way things are coming, we might hit ten or ten 1023 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 3: and a half. That's kind of a semikey number. You 1024 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 3: get to ten points there, so you're better off to 1025 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 3: wait there. It's not going to probably drop alone nine 1026 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: because a teaser protection. As far as the under, we 1027 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: talked about this on Third Days podcast for Friday. We 1028 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: already talked about the under forty seven and a half. 1029 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 3: Then forty seven is a key number. The next one 1030 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: downs forty four. We're kind of in that range. Now 1031 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 3: we've got some rooms, so maybe this goes back up. 1032 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 3: Baltimore has scored a lot of points lately and Pittsburgh 1033 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: looks vulnerable. I think if you like the under or 1034 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 3: like Pittsburgh, I get it. That's the trends. That's what 1035 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 3: the trends are gonna tell you to do. They're gonna 1036 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 3: tell you to trust the Mike Tomlin voodoo that we 1037 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 3: keep backing all year long. If you like that, I 1038 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 3: think you can bet it. But you're gonna have to 1039 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 3: wait a little bit because you might get even better number. 1040 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 3: The way things are steaming towards the Ravens, we know 1041 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 3: what the matchup is. Everybody knows the Ravens are the 1042 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 3: better team. Everybody knows the Steelers should not win this game. 1043 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 3: The question is does any of that matter or is 1044 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 3: it just gonna be another Steelers Ravens game. I don't 1045 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 3: know if we know the answer until we watch it. 1046 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what you said is right in the 1047 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 2: sense that we don't know. Also, the Pittsburgh team that 1048 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna see now based off the one that we 1049 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 2: did see before, I mean, this team just can't find 1050 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: offense at the moment. And I think it's pretty scary 1051 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: to see seventeen points in four straight games and the 1052 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 2: four straight losses. And you talked about the history with 1053 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 2: the eighty six Jets and the ninety nine Lions, but 1054 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 2: the history of teams with those four plus game losing 1055 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 2: streaks late in the season that kind of just fall 1056 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: their way into the playoffs. Isn't a good streak. And 1057 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: I'll put some stuff together for my article this week, 1058 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: but those teams usually lose in their first or second 1059 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 2: playoff game. They very rarely make their conference championship. And 1060 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 2: then you talk about Tomlin. We've known he's been struggling 1061 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 2: lately in the playoffs, but he's closed plus three or 1062 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 2: higher in five playoff games, and they are zero to 1063 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: five in those games, and they're one in one, four 1064 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 2: and one against the spread of those games. So it's 1065 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 2: just not a good result. And I'm the guy that's 1066 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: gonna sit here and tell you if it gets to ten, 1067 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna take Pittsburgh because I do think the 1068 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 2: Flowers injury is important, and I think it's one that 1069 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: makes their offense less three dimensional and a little less vertical, 1070 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 2: and I put it puts the pressure on Henry, you know, 1071 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 2: side to side versus Uphill. Okay, So that's Pittsburgh and Baltimore, 1072 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 2: and then finally it's Buffalo in Denver, And if not 1073 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh and Baltimore, this would be the highest spread 1074 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: on the board. Kind of shocking, it isn't given We've 1075 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 2: got a rookie going into Buffalo here to face a 1076 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: Buffalo team that is very well rested, a defense that's 1077 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 2: a little shaky no matter who the opponent is, and 1078 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: they give up a decent amount of points. And Denver, 1079 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: who you know, eight to no against the spread, is 1080 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 2: a favorite this year. Bonnick seems to find success in 1081 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: lots of different areas with the tutelage of Sean Payton. 1082 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: But this feels like a little bit of a different 1083 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: mountain to climb. But what are your thoughts with Buffalo 1084 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 2: and Denver? 1085 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good way of saying it. 1086 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 3: This is a step up in weight class, and it 1087 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 3: might be a couple step up for Denver. I love 1088 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: Buffalo here. This is my hot read on Bill, so 1089 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 3: I'll make the case for that a bit later. But 1090 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to be a very 1091 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,959 Speaker 3: close game. Do you think that Denver has any shot 1092 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 3: to even kind of hang around here? 1093 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 2: I kind of disagree with you in one little bit. 1094 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not in love with Buffalo. I think 1095 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: the right call was the seven and a half at start. 1096 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 2: I think the you know, eight and a half is 1097 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: fine in itself, But I do feel like Denver has 1098 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: some ability with their defense to kind of make Josh's 1099 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 2: life a little bit difficult, and I think if they 1100 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 2: can do that, bo might find his way into some 1101 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,240 Speaker 2: points here. I just I would lean more towards Denver 1102 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 2: and Sean Payton and the points and saying Josh doesn't 1103 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 2: do really well as a big favorite anyway. I need 1104 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: to look more into the numbers to kind of see 1105 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: how the matchups work out. But I kind of like 1106 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 2: Denver a little bit, but I'm just an underdog better. 1107 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 2: But I could see it. I mean, there's also spots where, 1108 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, the majority of Allen's wins have been by 1109 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: a lot of poins, so there is a chance you 1110 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: get the you know, forty seven to ten type of situation, 1111 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 2: and he did it against It was Pittsburgh last year. 1112 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 2: I think they won by like fourteen points and covered 1113 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: and it was you know, barely close at all. So 1114 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 2: definitely see it both ways. There. 1115 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 3: My last question before we get to the rest of 1116 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 3: the games here, So the AFC, we don't know what's 1117 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 3: happening in the NFC. We kind of made that clear. 1118 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of games we don't have a great 1119 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 3: feel on the AFC seems very much like we were 1120 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 3: all expecting Bill's Ravens second round Chiefs against whoever wins 1121 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 3: the Texans or Chargers game, and then presumably Chiefs against 1122 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 3: either Ravens or Bills. So here's my question for you. 1123 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 3: If we don't get Ravens versus Bills and one of 1124 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 3: them against the Chiefs, why didn't we get it? What 1125 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 3: was the one upset that happened along the way? 1126 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: Interesting question. I would probably say, from an AFC point 1127 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: of view, if there's a team that knocks out some 1128 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 2: of the top dogs, I still feel like it's Pittsburgh. 1129 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 2: So I still feel like next weekend, Pittsburgh, especially if 1130 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 2: Zay doesn't play, has the ability to all of a 1131 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 2: sudden find something. I think a few things need to 1132 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 2: go right. I think a little bit of health. I 1133 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 2: know even TJ is a little bit banged up, so 1134 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: I think there's a few things that need to go right. 1135 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 2: But again, they're a ten point underdog, and I think 1136 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 2: if you knock out Baltimore with that Pittsburgh game, the 1137 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 2: entire picture shakes up, because let's say Buffalo does their job. 1138 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 2: I still feel like at that point with Baltimore out 1139 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 2: of the way the AFC looks much different. 1140 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Pittsburgh just ends up going to Kansas City. 1141 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 3: In that case, Buffalo yells the Chargers or the Texans, 1142 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 3: then I think it changes a lot. Because I'm not 1143 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 3: really in love with the Bills as a team. I 1144 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 3: just like the particular matchup for them, and when I 1145 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 3: get your hot read, but I think Bills against Chargers 1146 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 3: or Texans, we might get kind of a shoot up 1147 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 3: back and forth there, and now you might have the 1148 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 3: path where Stroud or Herbert kind of make a run. 1149 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 3: So I do think that that's interesting. I don't give 1150 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 3: the Broncos any real much of a chance. I guess 1151 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 3: to answer my own question, if I honestly think we're 1152 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 3: going to get the obvious AFC path, but if we 1153 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 3: don't get it, probably I think that I have to 1154 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 3: say that it's one of those quarterbacks Herbert or Stroud, 1155 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: somehow putting it together and taking out this Chiefs team 1156 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 3: that I just said has this path laid out for them, 1157 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: and they've played so well the last four weeks before today, 1158 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 3: but they've looked vulnerable all season before that. It's still 1159 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 3: the Chiefs is still Mahomes. But I think if we 1160 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 3: somehow don't get the obvious AFC path, I think that's 1161 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 3: the most obvious way that we get there is just 1162 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 3: one of those quarterbacks taking down Mahome somehow. 1163 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: If YOU'RKC last question before we going to the restless slate, 1164 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 2: if your case, which one do you not want to face? 1165 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: It's your division, divisional rival. 1166 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 3: Right, I think so, just the divisional rival. The Chargers 1167 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 3: games have been so close over the years anyway, with 1168 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 3: Mahomes and Herbert, and yeah, I think that that's it. 1169 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 3: I think Harbaugh is the guy that you don't want 1170 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 3: to face as a coach, even though Demiko has been 1171 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 3: pretty good and the Chiefs to play the Texans, they 1172 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 3: know that team pretty well. I think they know that 1173 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: they've got the Texans. Yeah, I think it's the Chargers 1174 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: that the chief The Chiefs frankly would have much rather 1175 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 3: had a Texan Steelers matchup. This did not go quite 1176 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: their way this weekend. They would have been just resting 1177 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 3: easy on that one. But I think that answers the question. 1178 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 3: The Chargers got in and that's the worst matchup for them, 1179 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the Chiefs would hope for Texans win. 1180 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: Given their options. 1181 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: Intend to agree all right, best of the rest here. 1182 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 2: So Buffalo New England. New England beats Buffalo twenty three 1183 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: to sixteen is a three point home underdog. Total goes 1184 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 2: over thirty six and a half. New England completely wastes 1185 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: the number one pick opportunity, as every team has seemed 1186 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 2: to do over the last few weeks. Girodmeo ends up 1187 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 2: being fired in the aftermath of the loss. Hello Joe Milton. 1188 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: Joe Milton goes twenty to twenty nine for two forty one, 1189 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 2: even as ten carries in a touchdown. Felt like he 1190 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 2: completely took over. It was fun to see him on 1191 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 2: the field. We talked about Buffalo and Denver. The interesting 1192 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: thing about Josh before I tossed it to you, So 1193 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: he's three and seven against the spread in the playoffs. 1194 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: He's under five hundred ats in the wildcard, divisional and 1195 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 2: championship rounds. So I mean, either way, these big spreads 1196 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 2: haven't been friendly to him. Otherwise he's done the I'm 1197 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 2: a big wild card favorite three times, two three point 1198 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: wins and one kick butt of the Steelers last year. 1199 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: So I do think history and what we've seen from 1200 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 2: him in the playoffs in these situations, doesn't lend towards 1201 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: a cover, doesn't mean it's not going to come because 1202 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, bo is a rookie and it's a different situation. 1203 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: But I do think this Denver team is a lot different. 1204 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts there? 1205 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that that's fair. I think 1206 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: that we kind of do the thing where it's like, well, 1207 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 3: this has never happened for Lamar Jackson's never one of 1208 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: the playoffs. Josh Allen never covers in the playoffs. Well 1209 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 3: and tell, somebody's gonna have to do the thing or 1210 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 3: it's just the Chiefs winning again, So maybe it is 1211 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 3: just to keep winning again. Otherwise one of these dudes 1212 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 3: is gonna have to do the thing that haven't done before. 1213 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 3: So that's easy to shrug off any sort of fact. 1214 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 3: That's not a really a fair counter argument by me. 1215 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, the numbers are the numbers. I think Josh 1216 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 3: Allen's gonna have to actually do the thing. But so 1217 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: far this season I think he's gonna win MVP because 1218 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 3: he's been doing the thing. So I think it's maybe 1219 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 3: a little different this year. We got one play from Josh, 1220 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 3: we got one drive from Drake. May you know how 1221 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 3: we talk about like when a random player becomes a 1222 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 3: hero for a city, they're never gonna have to buy 1223 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 3: another drink in their lives in the city. Joe Milton 1224 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 3: is gonna have to pay for drinks everywhere that he goes. 1225 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Joe Milton blew this for New England. They're not happy. 1226 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 3: They're throughway the number one to pay now. Granted they 1227 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 3: don't need the quarterback. I think they love Drake May. 1228 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 3: They should love Drake May, but that's a lot of 1229 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 3: value possibly down the drain not getting number one. They 1230 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 3: dropped to number four in the draft. They fired girod Mayo. 1231 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 3: We just had that a year ago where a coach 1232 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: got themselves screwed out of the number one to pay 1233 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 3: and then immediately lost their job after Like, what are 1234 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 3: you doing? Just get it over a bit before the game. 1235 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening, Like Mike Rabel rumors already 1236 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense with New England, a very 1237 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 3: New England sort of higher for them. Bill Belichick is 1238 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 3: a college coach now, so this was Belichick's hand picked choice, 1239 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 3: and I think that now that he's just kind of 1240 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 3: out of the NFL, the Patriots are like, all right, 1241 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 3: we gave your hand picked choice. We don't like how 1242 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 3: luck we're starting over here. I like Drake may a lot. 1243 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 3: I thought Drake Mayo was fantastic this year. I think 1244 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: that that is a pretty good situation. They get a 1245 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 3: lot of cap room, They've got still pretty good draft picks. Obviously. 1246 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are team to keep an eye on, 1247 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 3: not because they won this game, but in spite of it. 1248 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, the Bills. The credit the Bills. They're up 1249 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: sixteen fourteen with the backup quarterback Trubisky, they bench him 1250 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 3: for Mike White just to finish the job and make 1251 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 3: sure their division opponent didn't get the number one pick. 1252 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 3: So I guess credit for that one. 1253 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Milton and Drew Locke can always get drinks 1254 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: in Nashville, is the way I look at it, all right. 1255 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Houston and Tennessee. Houston beats Tennessee twenty three to fourteen 1256 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,959 Speaker 2: as a two and a half point underdog. Total goes 1257 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: over thirty six and a half. The only note here 1258 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 2: for Tennessee is they are the only team that seems 1259 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: like they knew how to lose correctly, and they ended 1260 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 2: up now having the number one overall pick. But the 1261 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: Titans finish this season two and fifteen against the spread, 1262 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 2: which is the worst record for any team in the 1263 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl era. No team had fourteen losses ATS. Now 1264 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 2: no team had fifteen losses ATS. I'm not sure this 1265 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 2: record actually ever gets broken in my lifetime. I'm not 1266 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 2: sure you ever see a team only cover one game, 1267 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 2: maybe two, and they tie them. But this feels like 1268 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 2: it is absolute history. They goh to eight against the 1269 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 2: spread at home. They're the first team to lose eight 1270 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 2: games without an ATS win at home since nineteen ninety one. 1271 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph Owen six ATS, Will Lewis two and nine 1272 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 2: this season. Just honestly, they deserve the number one pick 1273 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 2: going through all that awfulness. So good to Tennessee, Houston. 1274 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 2: The one note I had, which you didn't talk about. 1275 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 2: They do end the year thirteen and four against the 1276 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 2: spread in the first half, which will be useful to 1277 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 2: try to start fast against the Chargers as an underdog 1278 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 2: at home. Demiko twenty five and eleven first half ets 1279 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 2: CJ twenty five and nine. So some good numbers there. Overall, 1280 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 2: anything Houston, Tennessee. 1281 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mostly hat the same trends you had against 1282 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 3: the Titans and for the Texans. Problem with the Texans 1283 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 3: first half, they're a wagon in the first half. But 1284 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 3: that's been a Chargers thing all year too, that they've 1285 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 3: been really good at coming out early. So yeah, I 1286 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 3: don't know what to do with that trend in that game. 1287 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 3: I think, to me, the question here is Titans get 1288 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 3: the number one pick, you go two and fifteen ATS, 1289 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: They're gonna take a quarterback. I have to believe they 1290 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 3: played Lavis and Rudolph in this game. You go get 1291 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 3: your quarterback. I think it's probably cambod I really like 1292 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 3: what I've seen from him. Is Brian Callahan the coach? 1293 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 3: Is this the guy that you want? Can you really 1294 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 3: keep a coach around after going two and fifteen ATS? 1295 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 3: I know that's not the job, but when expectations are 1296 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 3: this low and you still can't even just like cover 1297 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 3: a spread, you can even keep a game competitive, is 1298 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 3: that the guy you want mentoring your new quarterback that 1299 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 3: is moving your franchise forward. Kalahan's an offensive guy, but 1300 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 3: he's an offensive guy for the Bengals that came over 1301 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: and never really impressed me a whole lot with what 1302 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 3: they're doing offensively. I think that's just a lot of 1303 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 3: talent over there. So I'm curious if we hear a 1304 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 3: little bit about his name Monday's as you're listening to this, 1305 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 3: you got the number one to pay? Are you sure 1306 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 3: you don't want to just have a hard reset and 1307 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 3: start over here. I'm not sure that Callahan will be 1308 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 3: around for it. 1309 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's definitely something they're going to think about obviously. 1310 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, if you take Shador, maybe bring over Dion. 1311 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 2: That's a half joke, okay. Giants and Eagles. Eagles beat 1312 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 2: the Giants twenty to thirteen. They covers three and a 1313 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 2: half point favorites, total goes under thirty five and a half. 1314 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Not much to say here from the Giants point of view, 1315 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 2: aside from they should have just lost this game the 1316 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 2: same way they did this week as they did last week. 1317 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 2: But Malik Neighbors and Tracy both look absolutely fantastic for 1318 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 2: the Giants, So I do think whatever they're able to add, 1319 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 2: and I believe number three in the draft, which may 1320 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 2: not be a QB of Shador and Camera Gone, but 1321 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 2: at the minimum could be McMillan could be Travis Hunter. 1322 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 2: Either way, some talent there with Neighbors and Tracy, which 1323 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I thought really ended the year looking strong, Giants having 1324 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 2: won outright on the road in Philly. Now since twenty thirteen, 1325 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 2: that day was Eli Manning, Peyton Hillis and Victor Cruz 1326 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: and they beat Mike Vick and Matt Barkley. That is 1327 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 2: long how long ago the Giants haven't won in Philly. 1328 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Twelve straight wins for the Eagles at home against New York. 1329 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 2: We talked about all the Philly stuff, but for the Giants, 1330 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: I do think there's some positive with some of that talent. 1331 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Neighbors had a great touchdown late. Other 1332 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 3: than that relatively lifeless performance, not even really in an 1333 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 3: insulting way, like this is exactly what the Giants wanted 1334 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 3: to have happened last week. They just didn't do it 1335 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 3: last week. Eagles defense was really dominant until that late touchdown. 1336 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 3: The only takeaway for me is I'm curious. I hope 1337 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 3: we just get Jalen Hurts in the playoffs, but he 1338 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 3: is coming off a concussion. Are we sure Kenny Pickett 1339 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 3: is the guy that comes in if it's not Hurts, 1340 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 3: Because Tanner McKee looked pretty good. Two more touchdowns, two 1341 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty nine yards. I'm not positive that that's 1342 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 3: maybe the guy that I might go with as the 1343 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: backup if we had to get there. Hopefully it's hurts, 1344 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 3: but to me, that's the only takeaway from this one. 1345 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 2: The first can't go. I think Sirianna should just run 1346 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 2: the wildcat because that's probably gonna be their best option. 1347 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 2: All right. Seattle and the Rams. Seattle beat the Rams 1348 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 2: thirty twenty five, seven and a half point favorites. Rams 1349 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 2: get the cover, but the total goes over thirty eight 1350 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 2: and a half, so the Rams score twenty five after 1351 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 2: three weeks of just a terrible offense. Of course, this 1352 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 2: was Jimmy G and not Matthew Stafford, which we get 1353 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 2: Stafford back next week at home against the Vikings. But 1354 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 2: Jimmy G three hundred and thirty four yards, two touchdowns 1355 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 2: with backup wide receivers. I mean, it was pretty decent. 1356 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Six point two yards per place, seven point two yards 1357 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 2: per attempt, and Jimmy G and people we had been 1358 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, his cover numbers forever, but he's 1359 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 2: now nineteen and seven as an underdog against the spread, 1360 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: which is pretty nice. He feels a way to get 1361 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 2: some points on the board. From Seattle's point of view, 1362 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Gino gets his incentives they get to ten wins. I 1363 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 2: think he makes like five or six million bucks in 1364 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 2: this one. Definitely looked motivated. McVeigh is now twelve and 1365 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 2: five ATS for Seattle, including eleven and two ats since 1366 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, so he tends to put up points there 1367 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: to at least cover the number, all right. San Francisco Arizona. 1368 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Arizona beat San Francisco forty seven twenty four. I didn't 1369 01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 2: even realize I got to forty seven until I saw 1370 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 2: later on as five and a half point favorites. I 1371 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 2: closed total goes over forty three and a half. This 1372 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 2: is just an awful end to the year, at least 1373 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 2: from San Francisco's point of view. They were two and 1374 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 2: fourteen against the second half spread this year, three and 1375 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 2: seventeen last twenty games second half ats. So after the 1376 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 2: last few years where they were really good in the 1377 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and really good closing games, injury bug got him. 1378 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 2: No Christian McCaffrey in the red zone got him, and 1379 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 2: they were just terrible closing games all season. From Arizona's 1380 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 2: point of view, Kyler looked good today. The real funny 1381 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 2: thing was we had four players throw four passing touchdowns 1382 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 2: this week, so Kyler, bo Nicks, Rogers, and Gino, so 1383 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 2: people showing up in Week eighteen. Kyler didn't get his incentive. 1384 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 2: But I think Arizona is going to be a and 1385 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 2: you're one that's going to look into this but a 1386 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 2: hot team for next year. I mean, they ended eight 1387 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 2: and three against the spread, and I think people are 1388 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 2: kind of like them as a bit of a underdog 1389 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 2: coming out of this NFC West strong defense. We'll see 1390 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,680 Speaker 2: what happens with James Connor, but with Harrison and McBride, 1391 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 2: I just think people are gonna like Arizona. They actually 1392 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 2: go over their win total with this win as well. 1393 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 2: And here's one fun note. NFC West might actually be 1394 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 2: the most balanced division as San Francisco finishes last with 1395 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 2: six wins and that as the most of any fourth 1396 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,879 Speaker 2: place team, So really no bottom feeder in this division. 1397 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. My only note on this game is I was 1398 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 3: bummed that the Cardinals won, only because I completely agree. 1399 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals are gonna be a favorite sleeper 1400 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 3: next year. This was a team I wanted as my 1401 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 3: worst first team this year. I couldn't quite get there. 1402 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,799 Speaker 3: I didn't quite believe in the defense enough. Defense is improving. 1403 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to add a lot 1404 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 3: more talent to that team this year, and then the 1405 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 3: offense should take another step forward, a better year for 1406 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison. I like the team a lot. Unfortunately, since 1407 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 3: they won the game, the Niners are now the last 1408 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 3: place in the division, and so the Arnolds can't be 1409 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 3: my worst the first team anymore. So that's the only 1410 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 3: thing I'm disappointed about. Everybody will think the Niners are 1411 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 3: the worst first team next year because it's the Niners, 1412 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 3: barring them blowing something up, that will be kind of 1413 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 3: the obvious pick. This year, that was the Bengals. They 1414 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 3: were the obvious worst to first team because it's like, oh, well, 1415 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 3: they're not going to start out zero to two and 1416 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 3: blow the whole season at the beginning of the year again, ah, 1417 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 3: spoiler alert, That's what the Bengals do every season. So yeah, 1418 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 3: it will be interesting interesting division for sure. Not today, 1419 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 3: but yeah, of course Kyler has a big game against 1420 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 3: a sub five hundred team, and that's that's what he 1421 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 3: does well in a game that didn't matter anymore. After 1422 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,680 Speaker 3: they couldn't get over the line last week to give 1423 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 3: us a more interesting Seahawks Rams game today. 1424 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, what a Koogy division too, because the Rams 1425 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,759 Speaker 2: started like one in four end up winning the division 1426 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 2: and just weird, weird up and downs the entire year. 1427 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 2: Seattle had a shot, Arizona had a shot, just a 1428 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 2: wild year. Our last game Jacksonville and Indy. Indy wins 1429 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 2: a game twenty six to twenty three in overtime. Jacksonville 1430 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 2: ends up covering by half a point, getting the three 1431 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 2: and a half total goes over forty six and a half. Again, 1432 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 2: I know they didn't score twenty four points on Indies 1433 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 2: side today, but jackson I mean on Jacksonville side. But 1434 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley twenty four plus points allowed in seven straight 1435 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 2: games twenty three for Jacksonville today, I feel like he 1436 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,440 Speaker 2: gets a lot of the blame for Indie getting eliminated. 1437 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 2: Their defense just didn't keep up with whoever was at 1438 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 2: the quarterback there. INDI's now two to eight ats versus 1439 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 2: Jacksonville since twenty twenty and three sixteen and one since 1440 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, so obviously gets to win today. Flaco, if 1441 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 2: this is his last start, looked good. Forty attempts, no 1442 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,719 Speaker 2: interceptions and overtime win. Seemed happy walking off the field, 1443 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 2: so we will see what that looks like in the future. 1444 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 2: And even downs and Pittman go off. So just a 1445 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 2: bravo for Flacco in that last start and honestly a 1446 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 2: great full circle moment. So bo Nicks covered his twelfth 1447 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 2: game today and he tied Joe Flacco's rookie record for 1448 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 2: twelve covers, which he did back in two thousand and eight. 1449 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 2: And Flacco starting on the exact same day as bo. 1450 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: Uh. 1451 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Just kind of a fun story there, But anything Jacksonville, Indy. 1452 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, in like May, when you're like, man, 1453 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 3: I just wish I could watch an NFL game, any 1454 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 3: NFL game. This is the game. This is the game 1455 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 3: that you're missing. Joe Flaco and Mac Jones airing it 1456 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 3: out to finalize this season. They gave Johnson Taylor thirty 1457 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 3: four carries. That is malpractice in a game that meant 1458 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 3: nothing to nobody to put that sort of mileage on 1459 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 3: your running back to end the season. That's it. Brian 1460 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 3: Thomas looks electreak. He was great again. I legitimately had 1461 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,639 Speaker 3: to look up who won this game when I started 1462 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 3: my notes, I didn't remember it was overtime. I watched 1463 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 3: it on a red zone and it was so meaningless. 1464 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 3: I didn't even know who won the game. I guess 1465 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,759 Speaker 3: those are the Colts, but it didn't matter to anybody 1466 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 3: for anything else. 1467 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, those two notes there are good though. Brian Thomas 1468 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 2: unreal believe he led rookies in receiving yards. He was 1469 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 2: like sixteen to one in the preseason. And go look 1470 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 2: at Jonathan Taylor game log for his last like five 1471 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 2: games or so. He was an absolute workhorse at the 1472 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,680 Speaker 2: end of the season, which will go kind of unnoticed. 1473 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to your hot read, Hot wrap 1474 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 2: both day on. 1475 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,560 Speaker 3: Ice rights, ice cream, hos. 1476 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Hoe, Real Soul Trade. We've been alluding to it to 1477 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 2: the entire time, and I think you already know. So 1478 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 2: you can start with Buffalo and Denver. What's the pick 1479 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,879 Speaker 2: and give us a little analysis. 1480 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 3: I love the Bills here. I got Bills minus seven 1481 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 3: and a half. I think it's eight eight and a 1482 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 3: half now. Kind of a dead zone there, so I 1483 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 3: don't really mind it. Just get it before it gets 1484 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 3: gonna keep rising, because we're kind of in the spot 1485 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 3: where it's gonna get to nine to nine and a 1486 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,799 Speaker 3: half for teaser protection, just grab the Bills. I think 1487 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 3: in this round you'll want the big favorites. Next round 1488 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 3: you fade the big favorites rested. We'll get to those 1489 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 3: trends in the division round later on. But kind of 1490 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 3: made the case earlier. I just don't think these are 1491 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,520 Speaker 3: teams in the same waiting weight class. Starting with the quarterbacks, 1492 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 3: we get rookie Boonecks. Know what I think about Bo next, 1493 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 3: He's been pretty good this year, but on the road 1494 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 3: in Buffalo hostile environment. The Bills are the number one 1495 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 3: offense at home for the season. Denver is defense. I 1496 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 3: think good offense beats good defense, and I think that's 1497 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,759 Speaker 3: what we're gonna see here. This defense gave up forty 1498 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 3: one to Baltimore when they played them earlier this year. 1499 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,520 Speaker 3: That's the sort of offense that Buffalo is not stylistically, 1500 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 3: but that's sort of the level that they are. Denver 1501 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 3: only beat two teams all year that won a playoff game, 1502 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 3: one of them today against the Chiefs, so that barely 1503 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 3: counts one Against the Bucks. They got crushed by Baltimore, 1504 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 3: they got swept by the Chargers. They lost twice in 1505 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,640 Speaker 3: a row against real opponents trying to get into the 1506 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 3: playoffs before kind of getting this one handed to them today. 1507 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 3: I look this up. Heading into Sunday, Denver had played 1508 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,599 Speaker 3: so far this season six games against a top thirteen 1509 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 3: offense by DVA. They were one in five in those games. 1510 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,839 Speaker 3: They obviously count one for the win today against the Chiefs, 1511 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 3: but that's not a top thirteen offense. They played today 1512 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 3: thirty thirty four and forty one in three of those games, 1513 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 3: so and the defense has been sort of falling off 1514 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 3: a little bit. Anyways, the number are going to look 1515 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 3: pretty good today because of what they did, but heading 1516 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,799 Speaker 3: into today, last six weeks, they're fourteenth in DVAA against 1517 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 3: the run, in the pass, right around league average there. 1518 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 3: So the trends here only time we only had four 1519 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 3: years since we expanded to get a seven seed into 1520 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 3: the playoffs, So we have eight seven seeds so far. 1521 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 3: Five of the eight lost by twelve or more points, 1522 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 3: so these games have not really been that competitive. Only 1523 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 3: one of them won the game now is Packers. Last year, 1524 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 3: they're now the seven seed on their side of the bracket. 1525 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 3: Wild card host I mentioned this trend earlier that made 1526 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 3: the playoffs last year against an opponent that didn't Denver 1527 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 3: did not make the playoffs. Not for the last eight years. 1528 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 3: Those teams are twenty two to ten and one ATS 1529 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 3: sixty nine percent for the Bills. So it's basically a 1530 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 3: trend saying, Hey, the team that we knew was going 1531 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 3: to be in the playoffs against the team that sort 1532 01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 3: of surprised and got here. That experience shines through and 1533 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 3: last one home favorites of nine or more this round 1534 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 3: are ten and one ATS the last two decades. We're 1535 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 3: not nine or more yet. I think we're going to 1536 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 3: get there. As I mentioned, so Bills my seven and 1537 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 3: a half. I took that at DraftKings. We got a 1538 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,760 Speaker 3: link up in the podcast and the video description. You 1539 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 3: can click that for a quick slip link and then 1540 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 3: the DraftKings app will open and get your pick in there. 1541 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 3: Get the best number you can, obviously, but in that 1542 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 3: dead zone range, I just think the Bills are going 1543 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 3: to coast in this one and win pretty easily. 1544 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that ten and one number is a little scary 1545 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh and Baltimore as well. We might have two 1546 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 2: really big spreads in this round. All Right, you're looking 1547 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 2: at a total here you've alluded to it two Chargers Texans. 1548 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 2: I like this one. But at what number do you 1549 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 2: like it too? 1550 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I got Chargers Texans under forty four and a half. 1551 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 3: We'll get to the number in a second. It's already 1552 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 3: falling a little bit. But let me make the case first. 1553 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Kind of got to the case a bit earlier. It's defense. 1554 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 3: Both these teams are defensive identity first, both defenses I 1555 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 3: think clearly have the edge over the opposing offense. Chargers 1556 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 3: defense we talked about. They faded a little bit down 1557 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 3: the stretch, but I think the Texans offense is a 1558 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 3: pretty good alixa for that, because the Texans offense has 1559 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 3: not been good to any point this season. They're bottom 1560 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 3: cord of the league passing and rushing, and in particular, 1561 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 3: the Chargers are top five against wide receiver one, but 1562 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 3: bottom five against wide receiver two. A different version of 1563 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Houston that could have been a problem, but this version 1564 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 3: has Nico Collins, who is the only good thing they 1565 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 3: do on offense and nothing else after that. So if 1566 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,800 Speaker 3: the Chargers can limit or take away Nico, I don't 1567 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 3: know what the Texans offense can do on the other side. 1568 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 3: Chargers offense certainly improving, but Houston is one of the 1569 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 3: best defenses in the league. They're the number one defense 1570 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 3: in the league at home. They have a great pass rush. 1571 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 3: I think they have a good shot to kind of 1572 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 3: limit things for the Chargers. And again conservative mindset here, 1573 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 3: kind of running the clock. I think this is just 1574 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 3: a low scoring opening game. Chargers defense has been better 1575 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 3: on the road this season, their offense has been worse 1576 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 3: on the road. And both these teams are under teams 1577 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 3: this season too. Houston goes eleven six to the under. 1578 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 3: The Chargers weren't as much of an under team late 1579 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 3: in the season, but certainly early in the season they were. 1580 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 3: I think if this line moves too much on the 1581 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 3: total first half, under will be a good pivot as well. 1582 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Both these teams are especially good defensively early in the game. 1583 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 3: And then I kind of talked to it earlier, just 1584 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,640 Speaker 3: like not really believing in these games, but in these teams. 1585 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,759 Speaker 3: This is just the ugly early Saturday game to start 1586 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 3: the playoffs off. Now to the number here, under forty 1587 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,719 Speaker 3: four and a half if you can get it still, 1588 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 3: forty to forty four is a really important range with 1589 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 3: key numbers forty forty one, forty three, forty four. Those 1590 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 3: are all kind of key numbers with totals, not quite 1591 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 3: as big of a deal as like a field going 1592 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 3: a touchdown, you know the three and the seven on 1593 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 3: a spread. But definitely you want to grab this one 1594 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 3: now because I got the forty four and a half 1595 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 3: most books. Now we have forty three and a half. 1596 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 3: If it keeps on a fall and you lose a 1597 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 3: key number, you lose a key number. You don't want 1598 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 3: to go too much in that direction. So under forty 1599 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 3: four and a half, Chargers Texans, this one, I bet 1600 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 3: MGM again. And if you want a tail, you can 1601 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 3: find a quick sip link in the podcast and the 1602 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 3: video description. Click that it'll pop up right into your app. 1603 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 3: Have the pick ready for you to go, and we'll 1604 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 3: get that under start the playoffs out want to know hopefully, Yeah, if. 1605 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 2: You want to know what direction that Chargers Texans line 1606 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 2: is going. The first half total is twenty one and 1607 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 2: a half and the full game is now forty three 1608 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 2: and a half, So I expect the full game to 1609 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 2: probably start dropping a little bit to at least that 1610 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 2: forty three range. So when you're listening to this hopefully 1611 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 2: click the link. Don't forget. We've got quick sip links 1612 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 2: for Brandon's hot repicks for next week in the podcast 1613 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 2: and video description, so if you want a tail just 1614 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 2: tap the link. All right, Before we wrap up, let's 1615 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 2: hear from Patrick Everson from Vegas Insiders and how things 1616 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 2: looked in Las Vegas. 1617 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: All right, Evan, thanks a lot for having me back 1618 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: on the Action Network podcast recapping the final weekend of 1619 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: the regular season NFL Week eighteen. It was definitely a 1620 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining weekend, I can tell you. I took in 1621 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 1: a good portion of Sunday at Circus Sports Circus Sports 1622 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: Book downtown Las Vegas, where the Survivor and the Million 1623 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: contests were being decided. It was absolute pandemonium there, especially 1624 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: in the Survivor contest. And one of the reasons for 1625 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: that is the underdog is after weeks and weeks and 1626 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 1: weeks of favorites doing really really well, some very key 1627 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,759 Speaker 1: underdogs jumped up and bit people today really cost people 1628 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 1: in the Circus Survivor contest. Because of the eighteen remaining 1629 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 1: entries that made it to Week eighteen, eight of those 1630 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: entries selected the Falcons. That was the most there were 1631 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 1: only five teams selected overall. Out of those eighteen entries, 1632 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 1: eight entries took the Falcons, and obviously the Falcons lose 1633 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 1: to Carolina in overtime. Two entries took the Packers ten 1634 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: point favorites against the Bears at home, and the Packers 1635 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: lose outright. So certainly some heartbreaking defeats for some of 1636 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 1: the folks in that Circus Survivor contest. But I will 1637 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,000 Speaker 1: tell you pretty much all these contestants were hedging quite 1638 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 1: a bit. Certainly not enough to make like a million 1639 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: dollars or anything like that, but they made a lot 1640 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: more than the thousand dollars that they'd paid to have 1641 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the entry. So they all did well to varying degrees, 1642 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: even if they got beat today. But it was definitely 1643 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: a bummer for them to have touchdown favorite in Atlanta, 1644 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: ten point favorite in Green Bay for those you know. 1645 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,799 Speaker 1: Ten entries eight to the Falcons, two to the Packers 1646 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: that did not get to the finish line today in 1647 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Service Survivor, and that also coincidentally just leads nicely into 1648 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: this probably being one of the best weeks for the 1649 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: sports books since perhaps mid October. Just generally speaking, overall, 1650 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: there were pockets here and there where. Some books did 1651 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 1: all right over the last two and a half months, 1652 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: but generally speaking, the favorites, as we've discussed on this 1653 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 1: podcast and elsewhere, the favorites have had a great run since, 1654 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, early to mid October all the way to now. 1655 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 1: And in Week eighteen, you finally had some underdogs jump 1656 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: up and make some noise. I alluded to the Bears, 1657 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: double digit underdogs at Green Bay. They win on a 1658 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,560 Speaker 1: last second field goal. Bet MGM told me that was 1659 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 1: a great result for them. John Murray at the super 1660 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: Book said that was one of their best results of 1661 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the day. That was surely the case, and multiple other 1662 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 1: bios as well. The putt and the Packers were a 1663 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,640 Speaker 1: popular play and NFL Week eight team for sure. The 1664 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Buccaneers were super popular on the spread, laying fourteen fourteen 1665 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: and a half somewhere in that neighborhood depending on where 1666 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you shopped two touchdown favorites against the New Orleans Saints. 1667 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 1: The underman New Orleans Saints. The Saints lead that game 1668 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: sixteen to six and half. The Bucks were never really 1669 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 1: threatening to cover in that game at all. It did 1670 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,840 Speaker 1: come back and win, which dialing this back over to 1671 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,640 Speaker 1: the circuit contest for a moment. Five entries had the 1672 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Bucks as their final pick and they needed the Bucks 1673 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 1: to rally. They got a really good sweat there at 1674 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: circa on that one, but got there to each cash 1675 01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:00,320 Speaker 1: out for almost two million dollars apiece each entry. But 1676 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: the Bucks did not cover, and that was a great result. 1677 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Behind the counter, Bedham Jim said that was their best, uh, 1678 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: probably their best result of the day, Tampa Bay covering. 1679 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 1: That was what Tristan Davis uh texted to me on 1680 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Sunday evenings. Tampa not covering made it, you know, it 1681 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 1: was one of the games that definitely made it a 1682 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: really good day behind behind the counter because they just 1683 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 1: could not get a Saints bet. That's what Christian Sippelini 1684 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: said leading up to kickoff early Sunday. We just could 1685 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: not get a Saints bet. I'm paraphrasing only slightly. They 1686 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: just could not get anybody on the Saints. So the 1687 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 1: Saints covering there was good for the books. Like I said, 1688 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned that mentioned the Bears. 1689 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:36,559 Speaker 2: Uh. 1690 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,599 Speaker 1: I don't know that there was a lot of activity 1691 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 1: necessarily on the Falcons, but the Panthers went out right 1692 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 1: in that game. So that's certainly gonna fall in favor 1693 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: of the of the sports books. That's not gonna You know, 1694 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 1: it's rare that people were on the Panthers this season. 1695 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 1: There were one or two occasions I think we're perhaps 1696 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,679 Speaker 1: they were, but but again generally some some underdogs that 1697 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 1: that did well today, and jumping over to our friends 1698 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 1: at draft came just to illustrate where tickets and money 1699 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 1: went and how they didn't do well necessarily for the 1700 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:11,719 Speaker 1: betters at DK, you had four of the most five 1701 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 1: bet teams on the spread did not cover, Chiefs, Bills, Bucks, Packers, 1702 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,560 Speaker 1: and four of the top five point spread money takers 1703 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:26,639 Speaker 1: at DK, Bucks, Vikes, Packers, Commanders also did not cover. 1704 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,280 Speaker 1: There's some overlap there, but did not cover. So the 1705 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: public finally got a little bit of a cup muppets. 1706 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 1: It's been a good season for the public. We're certainly 1707 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 1: rooting for the betters to do well, but you had 1708 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: to figure. It took forever, but you had to figure 1709 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 1: the pendulum was going to swing a little bit at 1710 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,920 Speaker 1: some point, and it seemed to do so finally in 1711 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 1: the last weekend of the regular season, week EIGHTEAM. So 1712 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 1: there I have it a look at the recap, the 1713 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 1: final recap of the regular season to look forward to 1714 01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,759 Speaker 1: hopefully talking to you more about these as the playoffs 1715 01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: unfold with next weekend's Super wild Card weekend. 1716 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 2: And that's it, folks. That is a wrap on Week 1717 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 2: eighteen and the regular season in the books. And that 1718 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 2: has been the Action Network Podcast recap episode, and we 1719 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 2: will be back. Playoffs are right around the corner. We've 1720 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 2: got Best Bets episodes this week. We will have so 1721 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 2: much content up in the Action app and on Actionnetwork 1722 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 2: dot com. I am Evan Abrams, that is Brandon Anderson. 1723 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,759 Speaker 2: Enjoy the week and see you for the college football 1724 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 2: playoff and the NFL playoffs Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday 1725 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000 Speaker 2: next week. It is going to be an absolute ball 1726 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,160 Speaker 2: See you guys soon. 1727 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or 1728 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,160 Speaker 1: someone you care about has a gambling problem, Help was 1729 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 1: available twenty four to seven at one eight hundred. 1730 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 2: Gambler