Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock of
Speaker 1: the Chimok.
Speaker 2: He's still the twenty. He's to the twenty five Parlo
Speaker 2: thirty to the forty yard line.
Speaker 1: We could see history.
Speaker 3: Fifty forty to the thirty yard light. Now Michael run,
Speaker 3: Michael Luck, Michael.
Speaker 1: Run, touchdown, Tampa Bay. There you go, and.
Speaker 2: That shotgun sends wee receivers left. Here's the staff of
Speaker 2: the glitzer has picked up Brady Unity caught ball ups.
Speaker 3: He has the record at the eleven yard line.
Speaker 2: Mike Evins becomes the first NFL player in lead history
Speaker 2: to record a thousand yards of more of this first
Speaker 2: seventh seasons.
Speaker 1: That want to throw by Brady?
Speaker 3: Congratulations Mike Evens, who can forget.
Speaker 2: Gann looking gat holds up the hats other side, Terrek
Speaker 2: Bucks thirty.
Speaker 1: Touchdown, Tampa Bay. Derek Books the most paluable player in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. There it is Dot Daggers in
Speaker 1: we are gonna win the Super Bowl. Here's the snap.
Speaker 3: Mahomes running to his right. Lookout he may run Mahome director.
Speaker 2: Now battle INTERCEVN picked over the ins on Fox.
Speaker 1: I gotta beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Where the chapters of the world and we still have
Speaker 2: I'm inn a thirty three ago Davin White, what a.
Speaker 1: Great second season. If that's it for Casey Focks are
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champs. They can't stop the plot. We
Speaker 1: call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome everybody to the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm Scott Smith, I'm Jeff Ryan or the Salty Dogs
Speaker 3: mm hm, and we're getting saltier week by week.
Speaker 1: I will say that was a pretty good effort. It
Speaker 1: was a great game.
Speaker 3: It was actually, if you're a football fan, you certainly
Speaker 3: had it all.
Speaker 1: It was a nice way to finish the week because
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game was kind of a stinker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if you're a football fan, you got treated to
Speaker 1: a pretty good game, especially at the end with Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes leading this team down there for gets hurt on
Speaker 1: the touchdown pass that ties the game.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Obviously every fan in that stadium was praying to whatever
Speaker 1: the finals were. Yeah. Uh and he limps off and
Speaker 1: then he they I think they forced the three an
Speaker 1: hour or something. He came right back on for the
Speaker 1: next start. I didn't miss a play and it was
Speaker 1: like it was like a conquering hero had returned to
Speaker 1: his home.
Speaker 3: Well, he actually went into the Blue tent too. He
Speaker 3: did go and it looked like they taped up his ankle.
Speaker 3: From from what TJ was telling us from the side, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it was no surprise. And then he immediately leads
Speaker 1: a classic Mahomes Chiefs touched on dry to give him
Speaker 1: the lead, but then Baker came right back with a
Speaker 1: really nice drive to tie that game. So, you know,
Speaker 1: just to let you know, if you're new to the podcast,
Speaker 1: we talk about Buccaneers football mostly. Jeff and I tend
Speaker 1: to digress from time to time the bands on related
Speaker 1: topics absolute.
Speaker 3: And we want to keep you on your toes.
Speaker 1: We you can at the end of the show, as
Speaker 1: you could probably see, we don't have a player guest
Speaker 1: this week because because it's a short week after the
Speaker 1: Bible get back to getting player guests. And we also
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Speaker 1: dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Good job. What
Speaker 1: do I always say, Jeff, don't forget the dot NFL?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's a little different than what you're
Speaker 1: used to. But we won't get it if it's not
Speaker 1: in there. No. So, Buccaneers losing overtime to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in Arrowhead thirty to twenty four a rainy night. There
Speaker 1: seemed to be stretches where I think we were getting
Speaker 1: bad luck, where it rained more when we had the ball.
Speaker 3: It just seemed that way, didn't it.
Speaker 1: But you know that's mother nature. That's noting you can
Speaker 1: do about that.
Speaker 3: Well, unless they're controlling the weather.
Speaker 1: That was a defense. The Chiefs defense was one of
Speaker 1: the best in the league. They're scoring twenty four points
Speaker 1: on them and moving the ball relatively well, especially down
Speaker 1: some key guys. Was encouraging.
Speaker 3: Right, Listen, when you lose your two top one wide receivers,
Speaker 3: you think, well, oh you're in major trouble. It does
Speaker 3: make a difference. However, I will say.
Speaker 1: Especially when we're talking about two guys like Mike Grids.
Speaker 3: Right, but I will say guys are stepping up.
Speaker 1: They didn't have our top three receivers because Jalen McMillan
Speaker 1: was out.
Speaker 3: Too right, and that was that was out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: It started out on Friday, and.
Speaker 1: I think he aggravated the one that kept him out
Speaker 1: of a game earlier in the year and hamstring, and yeah,
Speaker 1: he couldn't go. And as of today we're recording this
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Coach has already talked once and he said
Speaker 1: that Jalen has not gotten better since Friday, so that's
Speaker 1: not a great sign. He didn't practice today. Neither did
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, by the way, which is going to be
Speaker 1: something you're going to see on every shows US. He
Speaker 1: said he's going to be fine. It's listed as a
Speaker 1: toe injury, but he did not practice today. It was
Speaker 1: a walkthrough anyway, so he could just stand there and
Speaker 1: take mental reps presumably, which is but I think this
Speaker 1: time of year, I think my biggest takeaway is that
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers have now played two overtime games and Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield has yet to touch the football and overtime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the overtime rule. And I understand because they
Speaker 3: want to speed the game up and they don't want
Speaker 3: you know, they cut down.
Speaker 1: At the quarter.
Speaker 3: It's only ten minutes, it's not a full fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: But my only gripe I guess is if you change
Speaker 3: a rule for the playoffs, if it's that good to
Speaker 3: change for the playoffs, and why don't you just do
Speaker 3: that during the regular season. And what I'm talking about
Speaker 3: is both teams get a possession.
Speaker 1: Whether even after a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yes, And so that's the part I always struggle with,
Speaker 3: is if you're altering it for the playoffs because you
Speaker 3: feel like that's the fair thing to do, then when
Speaker 3: just not do it in the.
Speaker 1: Regularly, Well, you said it, Jeff. The reason they're resistant,
Speaker 1: the people in the league are resistant to changing the
Speaker 1: rule for the regular season is because they are very
Speaker 1: sensitive about the average length of the game, which is
Speaker 1: about three hours and four minutes now, and they don't
Speaker 1: want to mess that up. They're reluctant to adopt that
Speaker 1: rule for the regular season. They decided to do so
Speaker 1: in the postseason just because it just seems so ridiculous
Speaker 1: that you might have a Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen. Right, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, dueling to get to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: then only one of them gets to play, and nobody
Speaker 1: wants to see that, right, Yeah, well, well that is
Speaker 1: that is basically saying that these playoff games are just
Speaker 1: so important that we can't risk one driving out. But
Speaker 1: you know what, this game was pretty important to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so was the Atlanta game. I'm agreeing with you
Speaker 1: as one I'm doing.
Speaker 3: And it also is very important to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they won the coin toss. The way
Speaker 1: we were moving the football, you could reasonably say, and
Speaker 1: you can't say for sure, but you can reasonably say
Speaker 1: whoever won the football was gonna win the coin toss
Speaker 1: was gonna win that game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny. Baker today said he kind of regretted calling heads, yeah,
Speaker 1: no tails, because he called heads in Atlanta and lost,
Speaker 1: and so he thought, okay, I should probably go tails
Speaker 1: this time, right, and lost again, And then he said
Speaker 1: later I was thinking about it, like maybe percente wise
Speaker 1: better play was to go aheads again, which isn't true.
Speaker 1: There's there's no but there's no correlation.
Speaker 3: But I did like how what he said that the
Speaker 3: ground was wet and the coin didn't bounce, yeah, which
Speaker 3: was very It.
Speaker 1: Was very funny. He wasn't actually making that a complaint
Speaker 1: like it got stuck sideways. He just made a good
Speaker 1: joke that the ground was kind of muddy, so the
Speaker 1: coin just stuck, whereas it could have maybe flip bounce
Speaker 1: one more time, right flip right fu.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and you know again you say, well make
Speaker 3: the stop and you don't have that poblem and coach
Speaker 3: you say that. But I actually believe whoever did win
Speaker 3: the coin toss was going to win that game simply
Speaker 3: because both defenses, more so the Buccaneer defense. I think
Speaker 3: they had thirty more plays defensively than the Buccaneers basically thinks.
Speaker 1: So overtime they ended up with like forty minutes of possession.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know, but both defenses were a
Speaker 3: little tired because when the Buccaneers were marching down and
Speaker 3: scored their tying touchdown, there was conversation that the defense,
Speaker 3: Kansas City's defense was starting to wear down.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think the most happiest whereas the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Chiefs defense when they won the toss. Okay, let
Speaker 3: them handle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they ran eighty three offensive plays when we ran
Speaker 1: fifty two.
Speaker 3: Crazy, right, And.
Speaker 1: Of course it would. We can't talk about the game
Speaker 1: and not bring up the decision making at the end.
Speaker 1: And I've I know how I felt.
Speaker 3: About it at the moment, I know how I feel
Speaker 3: about it now.
Speaker 1: Well, But I mean I've heard I've heard people arguing
Speaker 1: both sides, and I can get it. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is something egregious. Where it was, you could make
Speaker 1: an argument for going either going for two to win
Speaker 1: the game or not, or going for overtime, and we
Speaker 1: might be thinking differently if we had won that toss, yes,
Speaker 1: because I think I was talking to somebody that said,
Speaker 1: the numbers show that going for two in that situation
Speaker 1: does not on average increase your chance of winning.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: And had we gone for two and succeeded, had we
Speaker 1: gone for two and loss not succeeded, we lose. Had
Speaker 1: we gone for two and succeeded, Kansas City would have
Speaker 1: had twenty seven seconds left only any a field goal.
Speaker 1: They would have had to be aggressive. Instead, they went
Speaker 1: three and out and punted on And.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, And that's the difference. Is everyone's assuming because
Speaker 3: you made that stop that if you would have gone
Speaker 3: for the two points, you would have won the game.
Speaker 1: And we've all seen we saw mahomes need thirteen seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a playoff game, but against the Bills.
Speaker 3: Right, and so that's a different You know, they were
Speaker 3: down what you'd have to take me through that last series,
Speaker 3: But if I'm not mistaken, they were within the three
Speaker 3: yard line and it took them a couple of plays,
Speaker 3: they being the Buccaneers that too.
Speaker 1: But the first one was an incompletion. So okay, deal, all.
Speaker 3: Right, But so here's my question. Do you have three
Speaker 3: plays that you think is going to work in that situation?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, I think you do, do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You don't think we have three plays? I think
Speaker 1: we need to give it to Yar.
Speaker 3: I read somewhere someone goes, oh, you should have done
Speaker 3: a quarterback sneak at that time.
Speaker 1: I'm like a two point of area.
Speaker 3: No, And I'm like, okay, it's great, it's something to
Speaker 3: talk about. And that's again we're going back to what
Speaker 3: sports is all about. You can argue about it all
Speaker 3: the way. I thought it was the right call. I
Speaker 3: did not because, as you stated, you don't make the
Speaker 3: two points game is over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I mean, you got a chance to
Speaker 1: win it right there. But otherwise your fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: given pa, I'm playing Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 3: Well, I am too.
Speaker 1: You're fifty to fifty givings. Patrick mahomes the ball first
Speaker 1: in overtime, and we've seen what happens.
Speaker 3: But you would have given him in twenty seven seconds.
Speaker 1: I know that's the part of it that that gives
Speaker 1: me pause because you're saying you agreed with the decision
Speaker 1: at the time. I still right and still still do
Speaker 1: And I say, I'm telling you that I had already
Speaker 1: gone down to the press commers room. So I was
Speaker 1: watching the game on a TV at the end and
Speaker 1: we're driving and I turned to some TV guys from
Speaker 1: Tampa were standing there, and I said, well, the good thing,
Speaker 1: because it's Monday night, you money down on the road.
Speaker 1: You really don't want overtime right now. I said, well,
Speaker 1: the good thing is we won't go to overtime because
Speaker 1: if we score here, we'll go for two. Because I
Speaker 1: just thought it was a no brainer, really, and so
Speaker 1: when we didn't, I wasn't thrilled with that. And I
Speaker 1: always think in these situations like, what does the opposing
Speaker 1: teams If I was hanging out with opposing a fan
Speaker 1: of the opposing team, would he be happy with what
Speaker 1: we decided?
Speaker 3: No, they'd say gop for two because I think, no way,
Speaker 3: no way.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't want to risk losing that game on one
Speaker 1: play on a basically a coin flip. No way, they would.
Speaker 1: They love the fact that we kicked there.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's always like you said, you're looking
Speaker 3: at the end results.
Speaker 1: So no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not I said,
Speaker 1: hit the time. Even before we scored, I thought for
Speaker 1: sure we're gonna go for two. Now I do. I
Speaker 1: was not considering how much time would be left on
Speaker 1: the clock. I get that. I completely agree. You could
Speaker 1: also say, and Todd explained it a little bit today
Speaker 1: when the play to who was It Trey Palmer got
Speaker 1: it down to the one yard line. That play was
Speaker 1: snapped with forty four seconds. We called a time out
Speaker 1: with thirty three seconds left. I also at the time
Speaker 1: said I kind of wish we didn't call a time
Speaker 1: out there, let the clock run down. I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't want to risk you don't want to let it
Speaker 1: run all the way done, And only have one play.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a you gotta have two or three
Speaker 1: shots in it. But if you let it run down
Speaker 1: to like fifteen seconds, maybe that's enough time for three
Speaker 1: passes into the end zone, right, And then by the
Speaker 1: time they get the ball back, maybe they've only got
Speaker 1: ten seconds, and it's gonna be a lot harder for
Speaker 1: my homes. But Todd explained that there was some kind
Speaker 1: of disarray at the time and they had to call
Speaker 1: a time on.
Speaker 3: Because they had to get the offense right right, and
Speaker 3: they had you had to score the touchdown.
Speaker 1: You couldn't risk And I completely agree with this being discombobulated,
Speaker 1: go up the line, get some kind of procedural penalty,
Speaker 1: and now you're back at the six yard right, and
Speaker 1: it's a lot harder. So I understand why it happened.
Speaker 1: If everything was smoother and you get that play and
Speaker 1: there's no disarray and you can say and you can
Speaker 1: have a second to think about it, or maybe you
Speaker 1: prepare this strategy ahead of time, I probably would have
Speaker 1: tried to let the clock. I know, I understand why
Speaker 1: we couldn't do it, but I probably would have liked
Speaker 1: if anyone to run the clock down to like fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty seconds, and and potentially Kansas City calls the
Speaker 1: time out there if we don't correct, correct if they
Speaker 1: see what we're doing and.
Speaker 3: Let it rite down right right, And so yeah, you
Speaker 3: have all these I mean hopefully you know you go
Speaker 3: back and look at that game, and you know you
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to kick a field goal, but you
Speaker 3: get a holding penalty and it takes you out of
Speaker 3: the field goal range. So there are a couple of
Speaker 3: plays in that game where there were opportunities to put
Speaker 3: points on the board and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: The holding penalty that was on w fredis, yes, it
Speaker 1: wasn't on Tristan.
Speaker 3: No, he got the face mask, yeah, where he grabbed
Speaker 3: the shoulder. Yeah, well that's where face thinks on.
Speaker 1: I think the logical next step here is that somebody
Speaker 1: frames Tristan works for murder. Yeah, I mean, because he
Speaker 1: keeps getting accused of doing terrible things and then you
Speaker 1: watch and you go did he though? But I always say,
Speaker 1: I go, that's Tristan.
Speaker 3: You can't throw.
Speaker 1: If he did it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, Well, I will say this, I find
Speaker 3: it totally remarkable that the Kansas City Chiefs went through
Speaker 3: that whole game without a holding penalty or remark. You
Speaker 3: talk about you talk about start, do you talk about discipline,
Speaker 3: you talk about well coached, you talk about there are
Speaker 3: no no, there are no two steps before the ball
Speaker 3: is snapped.
Speaker 1: Ever, No, it's a great job. They do a great job. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yeah they did. That's why they're undefeated.
Speaker 3: Job. No, I think it's number seventy four his happy
Speaker 3: feet Taylor, Yeah, so it is. It is a uh,
Speaker 3: I don't know it.
Speaker 1: It's you know, careful, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: What it's going to say is Kansas City they do
Speaker 3: what they need to do to win the game.
Speaker 1: That's true. And so that's that. That's true. That's a
Speaker 1: good you know what.
Speaker 3: They're not blowing anybody out, truly, but doesn't matter. They
Speaker 3: figure it out, they stay in there. I think the
Speaker 3: Chiefs fans were a little surprised it was that close
Speaker 3: of a game, I really do. I I got the
Speaker 3: impression in the pregame that a lot of this stuff
Speaker 3: I was hearing on Kansas City radio. You know, I
Speaker 3: get there like five hours early, so once we're up
Speaker 3: and running, I like to listen to, you know, what
Speaker 3: the opposing team broadcasters are saying. And their big thing
Speaker 3: was it's you know, this is not the Tom Brady Buccaneers,
Speaker 3: this is not gron this team's not as good, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I get all of that,
Speaker 3: but that's like a few years removed. You didn't you're
Speaker 3: not taking an account of last year what what the
Speaker 3: team ended up doing. So I think they were thinking
Speaker 3: that it wasn't going to be as close as it was.
Speaker 1: Well, we were eight and a half point underdogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we be if even with considering that fan
Speaker 3: duel is really big on the side there at Kansas
Speaker 3: City that the tunnel. Did you notice that?
Speaker 1: So? Yeah, it really bugs you that that those organizations
Speaker 1: are advertising all over the NFL, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Well no, well no, I kind of like it. What
Speaker 3: bugs me is I'm not allowed to so and I
Speaker 3: won't because I worked for the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate that that has never been attempted me. I've
Speaker 1: never oncet on a score. I mean, I've played fantasy
Speaker 1: football and I've been Super Bowl squares, but I've never
Speaker 1: with like a bandle or some kind of bet. I've
Speaker 1: never once placed a bet on a on a sporting event.
Speaker 1: And it's just not anything that interests me. I think
Speaker 1: I would be very very bad at it. Well, that's
Speaker 1: part of it, and so I'd end up losing money.
Speaker 3: You'd overthink it because.
Speaker 1: I'm not even winning fantasy football anymore. It's been years
Speaker 1: since I've won a fantasy league. Although I have a
Speaker 1: fantasy team that it leads the entire league in scoring,
Speaker 1: and I'm four and five. I'll lose like one to
Speaker 1: fifty five to one fifty and have the second most points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still lose that all that kind of year for me.
Speaker 1: I have the same record as the Buccaneers, who also
Speaker 1: have scored a lot. No, it is.
Speaker 3: It is interesting though that you know, you watch the
Speaker 3: point spreads. You see the point spreads, and usually I'm
Speaker 3: always amazed how uh pretty accurate they are. You know,
Speaker 3: they're good at it, They're very good.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how those organizations win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but i'd know, you know, you try to figure
Speaker 3: it out. But yeah, this this particular one, if you
Speaker 3: took the spread and you were in good shape.
Speaker 1: Or not not in good shape. Right, we're five and
Speaker 1: a half point underdogs right now to San Francisco at home,
Speaker 1: really and they're four and four, So that tells you
Speaker 1: all you need to know about what teams think about
Speaker 1: the what people think about the virtual strength of these
Speaker 1: two teams relative strength today.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: So we were driving it. So it's a Monday night game,
Speaker 1: so we travel on Sunday. It was it was gross
Speaker 1: day that day too. It was across the whole two times.
Speaker 1: With all two days. It wasn't too bad on Saturday.
Speaker 1: But suddenly I mean, uh, we're driving in from the
Speaker 1: airport on the highway. It's a long way from Kansas.
Speaker 1: It's did it seem to you like to trip back
Speaker 1: to the airport lasted twice as long as the trip in.
Speaker 3: I actually thought we were driving back to Tampa. It
Speaker 3: was taking that long.
Speaker 1: Now. I I worked for the Chiefs for a while,
Speaker 1: so I know off the top of my head that
Speaker 1: the this is one of the places where the airport's
Speaker 1: way out from the main from the downtown like half hour.
Speaker 1: But he's on the drive in. It didn't seem that
Speaker 1: bad on the drive out of focor on the bus
Speaker 1: for an hour. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it didn't help too when they had to stop
Speaker 3: and open the gate.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, We're sitting there at the gate for ten
Speaker 1: minutes yeah, but on our way in We're driving down
Speaker 1: the highway about to go under an overpass, and there's
Speaker 1: one dude. I don't know if you saw him. There
Speaker 1: was one dude standing up there. A guy, an older guy,
Speaker 1: not older, a middle aged guy, on the edge of
Speaker 1: the overpass, holding up a Bucks flag, a bucket of
Speaker 1: a creamsickle Bucks flag. Just one guy, all by himself.
Speaker 1: There wasn't anything around. I didn't see a car, but
Speaker 1: it was probably just over the hill. Yeah, just one
Speaker 1: guy who knew when we were gonna be on the highway.
Speaker 3: How would he know?
Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering though. I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure that out.
Speaker 3: Had to be someone. He had to be friends with,
Speaker 3: someone in the travel party, I guess, had to be.
Speaker 1: Unless he stood out there for hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: If the guy happens to listen to this show, I
Speaker 1: saw you. I'm sure I wasn't the only one, but
Speaker 1: I saw you. It was really cool. He was grinning
Speaker 1: from ear to ear. Yeah, he was holding his flag
Speaker 1: over the overpass. Yeah wow, and old a bucco, a
Speaker 1: throwback flag. So it was very you caught your eye.
Speaker 3: Maybe he works at the airport and had insight him for.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but it was like halfway. It wasn't like it
Speaker 1: was right out there at the airport or had had
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: He had to know, so he had could he.
Speaker 1: Been standing out there for three or four hours, because
Speaker 1: how would you know when the team's coming in.
Speaker 3: I don't know sometimes.
Speaker 1: We're going So anyway, that was cool. And if by
Speaker 1: any chance you're listening to this podcast, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: And and uh and if you are right in and
Speaker 1: tell us how you haven't been to be there at
Speaker 1: the right time. Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see what hold on?
Speaker 1: Just say, what are we doing? Schedules it says that
Speaker 1: it's a.
Speaker 3: Twenty five minute You said half hour. Yeah, I have
Speaker 3: a travel guide up over there and he usually marks
Speaker 3: it and it said twenty five minutes, So you were right.
Speaker 1: We took a different route on the way back to
Speaker 1: avoid traffic, but it seems to.
Speaker 3: For there's a lot of traffic. That is kind of
Speaker 3: an unusual way. The highways dump in there to the
Speaker 3: two stadiums.
Speaker 1: That was that was pretty It was neat driving by
Speaker 1: their their big facility. They're like our facility. Uh huh,
Speaker 1: because when I was there, all the offices were inside
Speaker 1: the stadium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I got there.
Speaker 3: Around quarter to three Central time, and the tailgators were
Speaker 3: like everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're serious about it.
Speaker 3: In the rain. Oh wow, I'm and I'm thinking, wow,
Speaker 3: you really, I mean, I get it if you're standing
Speaker 3: in the snow, snow is not bad, but in the
Speaker 3: rain of rain, you know. And I'm thinking, geez, you
Speaker 3: know you're four at that because it was a seven
Speaker 3: to fifteen game there. You know, you're four and a
Speaker 3: half hours out. There's a lot of tailgate.
Speaker 1: We're probably pretty ready to get to holler and screen
Speaker 1: by the That was the other thing about traveling or
Speaker 1: or just playing on Monday, Monday night or Sunday night
Speaker 1: or Saturday or Thursday, is that we get a chance
Speaker 1: to watch more football than usual. Now, he didn't get
Speaker 1: to watch the one pm games, no, because of travel,
Speaker 1: but we got to see some after and my everybody
Speaker 1: already knows this, but oh my god, did you see
Speaker 1: the revert? Revertalvert it all. That's that's one of the
Speaker 1: most amazing plays I've ever seen on a football field.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the guy that he jumped over is
Speaker 3: really taking meeting room. Like, you can't even daggle a
Speaker 3: guy and he's.
Speaker 1: Got his back back to you. Yeah, you didn't even touch.
Speaker 3: Touch him, he just jumped whip.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
Speaker 3: We found a sports bar not too far from the hotel,
Speaker 3: and uh they had every every game on.
Speaker 1: I think I went there later when we met up
Speaker 1: with Pat Brazil.
Speaker 3: I don't know his name of yours something Creek or no, no,
Speaker 3: which was your Johnny's?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was old school, you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of TVs all games and it was great because where
Speaker 3: I sat, I could see every every single one and
Speaker 3: we don't get to do that too often.
Speaker 1: Right you know?
Speaker 3: So that was fun?
Speaker 1: Well it was was it on Sunday night when Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson made that ridiculous catch? Yes, God, that's an amazing catch. Right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I also went out and got pick up,
Speaker 1: got carry out from a barbecue place. Uh huh, because
Speaker 1: it's Kansas City. Yeah, I'm not gonna say which one
Speaker 1: it was, because I wasn't particularly impressed.
Speaker 3: They were underwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got the burnt ends and sausage with hot
Speaker 1: barbecue sauce. A cheesy corn bake thing which was pretty good,
Speaker 1: and French fries. The French fries were pretty good, but
Speaker 1: I was just not the sauce has to be really
Speaker 1: good for me to like barbecue, and I just was
Speaker 1: very underwhelmed by the sauce.
Speaker 3: I I went with some wings at a barbecue place, No,
Speaker 3: at this place, and our server made the comment that
Speaker 3: we have have the best wings and I'm never you know,
Speaker 3: everybody says that, and they said, no, no, no, seriously,
Speaker 3: these are they're the way they're done. The sauce, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean just really, it's all right, I'll go for it,
Speaker 3: and I have to say they're really good. Well it
Speaker 3: was like a barbecue, but with some spice to it,
Speaker 3: a lot of tang, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 3: little hotness to it. Yeah, it was very very good.
Speaker 3: I I was quite pleased with my choice. But what
Speaker 3: I found fun was how many Buccaneer fans were there
Speaker 3: at the bar. Yes, yes, yes, it was crazy, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people came in for this game because
Speaker 3: not too often, well it's been eight years since we
Speaker 3: played in Kansas City, so the Buccaholics traveled quite a bit,
Speaker 3: so a lot of people there we had.
Speaker 1: I have a pet peeve of mine reared it's ugly
Speaker 1: head in that game. Early in that game, I think
Speaker 1: it was on the chief score to field goal to
Speaker 1: start the scoring.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I can't stand when refs have bad touchdown signals. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's Jeff, can see what I'm doing here and not
Speaker 1: the speed of it touchdown signals. Your arms should be
Speaker 1: straight up in parallel yep, because it's emulating the goalposts.
Speaker 1: And sorry, so you're necking your shoulders is the crossbar
Speaker 1: and then your arms are the uprights? Correct? Do you
Speaker 1: get these guys who do their arms out like this
Speaker 1: like they're lazy and they don't want to put them
Speaker 1: all the way up. They're like big like a bowl
Speaker 1: or you wait, come on.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, they like they're doing the YMCA song.
Speaker 1: Just do the touchdown signal? Right, Well, do what I do.
Speaker 3: I don't even look at them anymore because now in
Speaker 3: all stadiums wherever you're kicking the field goal, on the
Speaker 3: opposite jumble board video board on the other side is
Speaker 3: the shot of the field goal, so you can and
Speaker 3: you can see it go right in. Because I don't
Speaker 3: even look over there.
Speaker 1: Because when you're watching from the side, it can be
Speaker 1: a little difficult to tell.
Speaker 3: Right, So that is my I just look at that
Speaker 3: and watch and it gives you, you know, an end
Speaker 3: zone shot, so you can tell if it's a bad
Speaker 3: snap or or a bad of course something something's gone awry, yes.
Speaker 1: Or a bad touchdown signal by a referee. Come on,
Speaker 1: you have one job in that situation. I've always it's
Speaker 1: always bothered me, all right. If I had told you
Speaker 1: when the season started, and I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: your thing, if I'd have told you we'd be four
Speaker 1: and five at those parts, that's my Jeffrys. If I
Speaker 1: had told you that in week nine we'd have a
Speaker 1: viable offense going toe to toe against Patrick Mahomes, and
Speaker 1: our five wide receivers for that game would be Trey Palmer,
Speaker 1: Ryan Miller, r Kim Jarrett, Sterling Shepherd and Marquez Callaway.
Speaker 1: I would say you'd be up for a drug test
Speaker 1: and that we probably would not be fighting to be
Speaker 1: over five hundred, right. It's it's impressive still, not just
Speaker 1: that guys are stepping up. In this case, it was
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd. I think he stepped up quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Ryan Miller obviously caught the touchdown pass that was his
Speaker 1: only catch of the game, his first touchdown ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and coach coach shoke today, Yeah, they probably didn't expect
Speaker 1: us to throw it to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, he didn't get covered because no one
Speaker 3: knew who he was.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't Actually, that's a joke. That actually makes sense,
Speaker 1: because you're going to cover whoever's out there or try to.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was the first option on that play.
Speaker 1: He was designed for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he did and he executed it, which is huge,
Speaker 3: so very exciting.
Speaker 1: So me reading those names is not meant to be
Speaker 1: little any of those guys. It's just you expected your
Speaker 1: offense to run through Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and
Speaker 1: in the in the running backs and Jalen McMillan. And
Speaker 1: if you're missing a lot of those guys, you don't
Speaker 1: expect to work anymore.
Speaker 3: Right, And and we can't, you know, we can't not
Speaker 3: say enough about Kate and the fact that that dude
Speaker 3: can take a hit. He caught that And did you
Speaker 3: see guys right in the middle of the back.
Speaker 1: Pop right up? I wonder and he's he's taken a
Speaker 1: bunch of those this year. Yeah, it makes me think
Speaker 1: back to maybe it was twenty nineteen something like that
Speaker 1: with Cam Braid and it was with Jamis throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: Jamis liked to throw the ball to him, but he
Speaker 1: got him hit a lot. And uh, I just remember
Speaker 1: that whole season just going oh Cam, oh Cam. And
Speaker 1: I think by the end of the year it did
Speaker 1: have some of.
Speaker 3: The accumulative fact I think Caid's ready for the buye.
Speaker 1: That's what Baker said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people are ready for
Speaker 3: the buye.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we're hoping that Mike Evans and Jamel Dean
Speaker 1: will be back after the bye. Yeah, so guarantee, but
Speaker 1: that's what hopefully that's the case.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're you just got a text. No, I'm
Speaker 3: just making sure that no breaking news as we speak.
Speaker 1: Oh, Kate. So the thing about Kate Oton what was
Speaker 1: his what would you say, like coach anytime he's asked
Speaker 1: about him in his first two seasons and Caid was
Speaker 1: playing last year, playing like almost a hundred percent of snaps,
Speaker 1: which is almost in heart of for Grans And what
Speaker 1: would coach always say about him?
Speaker 3: He was very durable, well understands the game to me.
Speaker 1: It was like he always in the right place and
Speaker 1: does the right thing. Well, that's okay, So that's great.
Speaker 1: That's that's the picture of a dependable guy who you
Speaker 1: can count on. Maybe not like one of the league's
Speaker 1: most flashy or productive tight ends, right and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe never going to be the focal point of your
Speaker 1: your offense. Uh, but you're still gonna be a valuable player.
Speaker 1: He blocks well, he blocks he's supposed to block, He
Speaker 1: runs the routes he's supposed to route, He catches the
Speaker 1: ball when he's supposed to. That would be fine, That
Speaker 1: would be fine, especially if I think he was a
Speaker 1: fourthront pick. You know, if that's what you ended up with,
Speaker 1: that'd be fine. Well, we talk about young guys getting opportunities.
Speaker 1: Because Mike and Chris got hurt, Kate Otten has had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to basically step into the number one receiving
Speaker 1: role for this team for Baker Mayfield and a red
Speaker 1: hot Baker Mayfield, and it has opened up his game.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's that he couldn't do these things,
Speaker 1: we just didn't use them in this way.
Speaker 3: He's getting the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't mean that in a vague way
Speaker 1: like he's because he was already getting snaps, right. He's
Speaker 1: running all kinds of routes now, all kinds of routes,
Speaker 1: all kinds of different routes that he hadn't been running
Speaker 1: very much in his first two seasons. And you're like
Speaker 1: kind of going, he's doing all these routes. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he can do all of these routes. And now you realize, man,
Speaker 1: we have a really significant weapon here. And so you know, Chris,
Speaker 1: Chris won't be back until maybe the playoffs, if we
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, maybe not even then, but Mike could
Speaker 1: be back soon, and you just it's almost like you
Speaker 1: unlocked another facet of your office again. It's still going
Speaker 1: to be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to pay attention. You don't lose it,
Speaker 3: which is nice down this home stretch.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just I've been really impressed with Kaide and
Speaker 1: I'm with you. He has twenty five catches over the
Speaker 1: last three games. He's the first Buccaneer Titan ever to
Speaker 1: have at least eight catches in three straight games. Not
Speaker 1: Jimmy Giles, No, not Dave More, not Dave More, you know,
Speaker 1: but the thing I remember about Dave statistically was that
Speaker 1: he always had a high ratio of tight end touchdowns
Speaker 1: to his catches. Yeah. Also Dave Moore Levante, David just
Speaker 1: for passed him on the Bucks all time games played list. No,
Speaker 1: he's going to he just caught it. They both have
Speaker 1: played in one hundred and ninety games as Buccaneers. The
Speaker 1: only ones who played more Hall of Famers Derek Brooks
Speaker 1: at two twenty four and Ronnie barbera two forty one.
Speaker 3: Yep, Dave quietly played a lot of games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he he knew how to make himself valuable
Speaker 1: with doing things like becoming a long snapper, being good
Speaker 1: around the end zone, like we're just talking about playing
Speaker 1: through punctured lungs or collapse long and he could block.
Speaker 1: So yeah, kids looked fantastic. He's reliable and he's a
Speaker 1: pretty good blocker too. He has to be for them.
Speaker 1: He's a true what do they call it f tight end.
Speaker 1: He's a true two way tight end. And that's the
Speaker 1: You know that's true because they would not leave him
Speaker 1: on the play on the field for ninety eight print
Speaker 1: in the snaps if he wasn't getting the job done
Speaker 1: blocking at least doing the right thing. Right. He may
Speaker 1: not be the NFL's best blocker. He might not be
Speaker 1: as good of a blocker as Gronk was at his right,
Speaker 1: but he's good enough.
Speaker 3: I think. Also I'm most pleased offensively is with the
Speaker 3: running game and how it's really come together and how
Speaker 3: the old line has come together.
Speaker 1: You know, the old line is the hidden strength of
Speaker 1: the offense right now, maybe not hidden but not talked
Speaker 1: about right playing great they are?
Speaker 3: They are. I mean, you get caught with a couple
Speaker 3: of penalties. It seems like when they do get a
Speaker 3: penalty is at the worst possible time. Now, you never
Speaker 3: won a penalty, but there are other times you get
Speaker 3: a penalty you can live with it. And every time
Speaker 3: you get moved out of the field goal range that
Speaker 3: really really hurts, especially when when you're trying to chase
Speaker 3: down points. But I've been really I really like how
Speaker 3: they've been using all the backs. I really really like it.
Speaker 3: I know, it's just when you think, okay, who's coming
Speaker 3: in next you and it's you got to pay really
Speaker 3: strict attention because they've been rotating them quite a bit,
Speaker 3: and sometimes they were running a two back set, So
Speaker 3: what are you looking at trying.
Speaker 1: To find the situation you're talking about when we were
Speaker 1: in field goal range.
Speaker 3: I want to say it was Baker mentioned it.
Speaker 1: It was in.
Speaker 3: I think it was in the third quarter. Instead of
Speaker 3: scoring a touchdown, we kicked the field goal, and I
Speaker 3: think that's what he was talking about, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: somewhere in that area.
Speaker 1: Well, the penalty that proceeded. We had gotten to first
Speaker 1: and ten at the Chiefs twenty eight and that's when
Speaker 1: Tristan got the face mask penalty, okay, and then we
Speaker 1: ended up having to kick a field goal.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's probably that's what it was. Was that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you felt like you when that guy.
Speaker 1: Was wearing his face mask on his shoulder, remember that.
Speaker 3: I guess it was Halloween and it's a new place
Speaker 3: for it. I don't know what this say.
Speaker 1: We got it. We got a holding penalty to begin
Speaker 1: that last touchdown drive. So it's pretty impressive that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how about how about uh, you know, I
Speaker 3: have to say a lot of pressure was on Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes more than than people really are giving grid to
Speaker 3: a couple of times that he's Patrick Mahomes, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, he runs and then it looks like he's
Speaker 3: going to run and then throw and no matter. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like pick your poison because if you don't
Speaker 3: chase him.
Speaker 1: Yea. The touchdown was like that, yeah, yeah, which way?
Speaker 3: How do you defend that?
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as a fan of the game and
Speaker 1: not wanting to see great players get hurt. When he
Speaker 1: did that throw and rush, I was really worried about Achilles.
Speaker 1: So did I so to hear that it's an ankle instead,
Speaker 1: and obviously he was able to play through it is
Speaker 1: is good.
Speaker 3: Now, the question was did he go over the line?
Speaker 1: He didn't. He did, Okay, So you and you got
Speaker 1: to remember that that rule you got to be all
Speaker 1: the way over. One hundred percent of your body has
Speaker 1: to be past the line. If your heel is on
Speaker 1: the line and then the rest of you's over, it
Speaker 1: still counts.
Speaker 3: Okay, which is a weird rule. Yeah, because you would
Speaker 3: think it's I if I were.
Speaker 1: Writing the rules now, I would be like, if any
Speaker 1: part of you is over, you're over. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: surely the way lines work, like the gold line in football.
Speaker 3: If you touch it, you're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If if if you're over the line at all,
Speaker 1: then that's over line, but that's not the rule, right,
Speaker 1: and he knew it, he knew where he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a great job on that.
Speaker 1: I was hopeful for a second or two. Whoever watching
Speaker 1: that play live th oh maybe he was over the line,
Speaker 1: but then they show real I.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, that's that was a hard go right there.
Speaker 3: But but I will say it was a fun game.
Speaker 3: It was an exciting game. Sucked that, you know, the
Speaker 3: Bucks couldn't pull it out.
Speaker 1: Well, you were talking about how much you like in
Speaker 1: the running game, which has been good, and we didn't
Speaker 1: have the ball enough to really put up huge numbers.
Speaker 1: But ninety five yards against one of the league's best
Speaker 1: run before that.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: On nineteen carries, so he averaged five yards to carry,
Speaker 1: helped out a little bit by a nice end around
Speaker 1: by Sterling Shepherd.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that great?
Speaker 1: Yeah, even on the one he he had two of
Speaker 1: them and one was nineteen yards, which was awesome. The
Speaker 1: other one was two. But he came on third and
Speaker 1: one and he saw that he wasn't gonna get very far,
Speaker 1: so we made the cut when he did and got
Speaker 1: across the line. So he made those plays work. He's
Speaker 1: been good on end rounds for the most part this year. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The running game, I like that we are consistently seeing
Speaker 1: new wrinkles in the types of plays. There was a
Speaker 1: play with especially when we put both Bucky and Rare
Speaker 1: Shot on the field. I think, I know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get on those plays because I've seen what we've done.
Speaker 1: And then it's Liam's down something different, which is great,
Speaker 1: right you let them see something you've done before. It
Speaker 1: just looks like that and it's gonna be something different.
Speaker 1: This one, he did a fake pitch I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: to Rashad going right and then ran like usually when
Speaker 1: you do a handoff the guy's right there. Baker ran
Speaker 1: several yards to hand it off to Bucky on the left,
Speaker 1: and then Bucky immediately cut back towards the middle and
Speaker 1: it worked. It was a weird looking play, but that's
Speaker 1: a good thing, you know. It's like, what the heck
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 3: I I really like the play calling too. I think
Speaker 3: it's it seems like the guys like the plays that
Speaker 3: are being called, if that makes sense, you know they're not.
Speaker 3: They're they're looking at it as Oh.
Speaker 1: I like this one.
Speaker 3: I like that one. But it also it looks like
Speaker 3: he's he's got a couple of plays in his head.
Speaker 3: He being Baker when they get to the line, Oh
Speaker 3: it's supposed to yeah, and he can check off, check
Speaker 3: down what he wants. And that seems to be playing really,
Speaker 3: really nice for them. So that's that's a plus. And
Speaker 3: you know what, Uh, you got to really respect Todd
Speaker 3: Bowles and the fact that every time he finds an
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, next thing, you know, anyone wants to make
Speaker 3: them a head coach.
Speaker 1: Ye, So so uh, yeah, I think the play call
Speaker 1: has been great and he's had to adjust and has
Speaker 1: done so. And Liam Cohen is rightfully getting tons of
Speaker 1: tons of credit for keeping this offensive float after those
Speaker 1: devastating injuries, right, yeah, but you know you still have
Speaker 1: to have a quarter back executing it. Yes, So we
Speaker 1: don't want to lose sight of the fact that additionally
Speaker 1: and pushing the right buttons, Bakers, Baker's making it work. Man,
Speaker 1: Baker's doing. It's impressive.
Speaker 3: It's very much so.
Speaker 1: He still leads the league in touchdown passes twenty three.
Speaker 1: He's thrown at least two in six straight games, which
Speaker 1: is not only the longest active streak in the league,
Speaker 1: but the longest streak at all this year by any quarterback.
Speaker 1: Josh Allens, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, yep, Joe Burrow some
Speaker 1: really good None of those guys have done this yet. Yep.
Speaker 1: Not to say they won't, but they haven't yet. He's
Speaker 1: second in the league in yards passing, yard side is
Speaker 1: he's up there in the top five in most categories,
Speaker 1: and he's fun to be around. Yeah, and then he
Speaker 1: can do It's not quite to the same level as Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but he can do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We need we really need to scramble on third down
Speaker 1: on well.
Speaker 3: He almost made that one, that one first down where
Speaker 3: he scrambled like crazy and then got hit. He's like
Speaker 3: two yards short.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He had another one that he did successfully convert,
Speaker 1: but we got a penalty on the play, and then
Speaker 1: he got ten yards on the scrambling third down, but
Speaker 1: it was like they and fourteen, right.
Speaker 3: So that's props there. I mean, I mean, all in all,
Speaker 3: I think I think what what I enjoy most, it's
Speaker 3: a fun team to watch. Unfortunately, it's just not enough
Speaker 3: right now. I mean, this is a tough skid and
Speaker 3: they don't mean to be real salty. But this is
Speaker 3: a tough skid right now.
Speaker 1: This is this coming up on Sunday in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Huge is a sneaky important game.
Speaker 3: You mentioned this at lunch, and I didn't think about
Speaker 3: it until you said it, So go ahead.
Speaker 1: But you're right. So the Bucks are four and five,
Speaker 1: Atlanta six and three, So that's two games you're down.
Speaker 1: Atlanta plays New Orleans this year, I mean this weekend
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. But still, who do you think is
Speaker 1: gonna win?
Speaker 3: That new head coach or an interim coach.
Speaker 1: They're they're trading away Marshall Land. New Orleans has probably
Speaker 1: rightfully given up on this season, and they just lost
Speaker 1: to Carolina.
Speaker 3: Right, so we'll make that a motivating chances.
Speaker 1: Well, you hope they get that new new coach, bounce
Speaker 1: that surge, yes, Antonio Pierce kind of deal. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: But let's just assume that Atlanta wins that game. If
Speaker 1: the Bucks lose, there will be three games back and then,
Speaker 1: but it's functionally four games because Atlanta has the sweep.
Speaker 1: So if you want to win the division, you can't
Speaker 1: end the season tied with him. You have to be
Speaker 1: one ahead of him and that's with seven games to
Speaker 1: play for the Buccaneers. Yeah, that's a hard road making
Speaker 1: up four games in seven game and Atlanta's schedule down
Speaker 1: the stretch isn't terribly you no, no, So that would
Speaker 1: be a lot to ask, and then you're at four
Speaker 1: and six and you're probably towards the bottom of the
Speaker 1: uh NFC wild card hunt.
Speaker 3: Well. The other thing, too, is like Todd said, don't
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
Speaker 1: We put it that, don't take don't get used to losing. Yeah, don't. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, don't get comfortable losing, but I
Speaker 3: think you said get used. Yeah, don't get used to losing.
Speaker 3: And that is that's pretty much because you're you're on
Speaker 3: a three game skid right now.
Speaker 1: The whole, the whole thing about this season is all right,
Speaker 1: we lost to Denver. I mean, you can argue whether
Speaker 1: we should have, but we did, and I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't argue with the Baltimore loss. We did some good
Speaker 1: things on offense, but we didn't stop them, didn't. And
Speaker 1: and then we just lost at Kansas City against the
Speaker 1: undefeated Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Two overtime losses.
Speaker 1: The Dames that are killing me in the Atlantic again.
Speaker 1: Both of the just will give us one of them,
Speaker 1: and you can easily make a case for how they
Speaker 1: can if there had been a face mess call at
Speaker 1: the end of the first one, and then what was
Speaker 1: the big deal? And oh, if there's been a pylon
Speaker 1: camera in this second one. I'm not saying we would
Speaker 1: have won, but you can certainly make a case that
Speaker 1: we had. You know, it could have happened. And so meanwhile, meanwhile,
Speaker 1: who are the top who have emerged as the top
Speaker 1: contenders in the NFC. Detroit, we beat Detroit.
Speaker 3: They've got one loss that was US Washington all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, that's a much bigger win.
Speaker 1: Handled them pretty easily. Philadelphia hasn't lost since we beat them.
Speaker 1: We handled them pretty easily. Our we've shown our street
Speaker 1: cred against what is considered the top contenders in the NFC,
Speaker 1: and now have San Francisco coming in. They're four and four,
Speaker 1: but they are the raining NFC champs. They've also dealt
Speaker 1: with some major injuries on all. They got guys coming
Speaker 1: back and they probably have Christian McCaffrey back, maybe Juwan
Speaker 1: Jennings as well. So it's a forget their record. Everybody
Speaker 1: still considers them a top NFC contender, right, and they
Speaker 1: are the raginning Conference champs. It's yet another opportunity for
Speaker 1: the Bucaners not only to stop their losing streak and
Speaker 1: keep themselves in at least a decent spot in the
Speaker 1: playoff hunt, but also to show it once again. Hey,
Speaker 1: these are the teams you think are the best contenders
Speaker 1: in the NFC, and we're beating all of them. Right.
Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet, so I can't say that,
Speaker 1: but we've beat three of them already.
Speaker 3: And what better way to go into a buye than
Speaker 3: with a win that changes everything just for those two
Speaker 3: weeks before your next game. It certainly makes things much better.
Speaker 3: And it's like you said, it puts you at five
Speaker 3: and you have seven games left, and I like the
Speaker 3: chances after that. But I think this is a huge
Speaker 3: This is a turning point game.
Speaker 1: I really really. No neither of us are saying that
Speaker 1: if the Bucks lose that it's over, no, or if
Speaker 1: that they win their a lock. Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 1: It is really such a you said turning point. It's
Speaker 1: like a folk room, yeah, on which the sea saw
Speaker 1: is pivoting, right.
Speaker 3: So I mean it's like you said, if you lose
Speaker 3: this one. I don't think you have a chance of
Speaker 3: winning the NFC South. If you win this one, you
Speaker 3: still have a chance to win it, but it also
Speaker 3: increases obviously, it increases your wild card chances. But if
Speaker 3: you look at the NFC East right now and the
Speaker 3: Central that's pretty much where the wild cards are coming from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you gotta catch Yeah, hopefully you have a
Speaker 1: little bit of those teams beating up each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the second half and hurting their records. You'd like
Speaker 1: to see I'd like to just see Detroit and watching
Speaker 1: it run away with those divisions right and then the
Speaker 1: other teams start to get some long.
Speaker 3: I did watch that Detroit game. Boy, they they that's
Speaker 3: a good.
Speaker 1: And they just traded for Zadarius Smith. That's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: which will help them replace Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah. They they
Speaker 1: can beat you in a lot of ways, especially on offense.
Speaker 1: So that's a well and they probably are the best
Speaker 1: offensive lineup in football. That is a good team, and
Speaker 1: that's well, we beat them. Remember that.
Speaker 3: I know you look at that in Detroit. I think
Speaker 3: I think though, what you do is you will look
Speaker 3: at it. You go you beat the Lions, Come on,
Speaker 3: why don't we have more wins? Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 3: is just and since everyone's kind of on the defense
Speaker 3: right now that they're not playing as well as they
Speaker 3: should in that particular game, that's where you really thought
Speaker 3: the defense was coming into its own where that was
Speaker 3: a great defensive.
Speaker 1: Game, the Detroit one. Yes, especially at the end, very much.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I mean we talk about how since then in key moments,
Speaker 1: the bucks of the defense is at a hard time
Speaker 1: getting stops. Like again, in overtime, they were twelve of
Speaker 1: eighteen and a lot of those were short, but they
Speaker 1: did convert to the longer ones too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh. And we went into that game leading the league
Speaker 1: in third dunkn version rate and Kansas City was second,
Speaker 1: and after that game had flopped, now they're one and
Speaker 1: we're two.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that, But you know that's that's week.
Speaker 3: The week you're only as good as the last game
Speaker 3: you play. Well, you're only as good as the game
Speaker 3: you're playing.
Speaker 1: Right. There was a there was a do you understand
Speaker 1: all of the kickoff return rules?
Speaker 3: I'm still learning the one The absolute.
Speaker 1: Best thing you can do as a kickoff team is
Speaker 1: have the ball land in the zone. In the zone
Speaker 1: and then bounce into the end zone and be downed
Speaker 1: because then it's a touchback that only comes out there
Speaker 1: to twenty. And that happened in that game, and it
Speaker 1: was a It looked totally on purpose. It was a
Speaker 1: line driver that hopped it around the two and then
Speaker 1: it hit Bucky about a foot in the yard in
Speaker 1: the end zone and he wasn't he wasn't able to
Speaker 1: fill it cleanly. So he made an an understandable decision
Speaker 1: to kneel there. But I think at that point you
Speaker 1: should run that one out because it's only coming out
Speaker 1: to the twenty, right. More so, you need to make
Speaker 1: sure you don't end up in a situation where the
Speaker 1: ball bounces you let it hit the ground. You got
Speaker 1: to come up and get that one. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: can understand a returner thinking I'll just catch it on
Speaker 1: the hop, but you have to understand the rules as
Speaker 1: they are now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm beginning to like it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, but Bucky more than made up with
Speaker 1: that for that with a forty six years kickoff return.
Speaker 1: That's set up I think the drive to put us
Speaker 1: ahead in the third quarter. Yeah, because it was a
Speaker 1: company kickoff of the second half. What a way to start, right.
Speaker 3: And now that was the other thing they won. They
Speaker 3: won the coin toss and they decided.
Speaker 1: To defer, which is the first time we've done that.
Speaker 3: This was I brought that up. I wanted you so
Speaker 3: what do you think? I wanted you to know that
Speaker 3: I knew who won the coin toss this time.
Speaker 1: That's right. So the Bucks have been bucking the usual
Speaker 1: tradition in recent years. Most teams that win the coin
Speaker 1: toss defer because they want to have the ball first
Speaker 1: to start the second.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get an extra possession.
Speaker 1: If you can just get us. If you stop the
Speaker 1: opposing team on the opening drive, then you've you've won
Speaker 1: that decision because they didn't score, and now you get
Speaker 1: the ball first to start the second half. But this
Speaker 1: time we didn't. We went back we had been all
Speaker 1: year if we won the coin toss taking the ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: And since most teams are still deferring, and when they
Speaker 1: won the coin test, they defer, so the Bucks were
Speaker 1: starting almost every game on offense. I wonder what the decision.
Speaker 1: Nobody's asked why he decided to defer this time, to
Speaker 1: see maybe he thought it was going to be a
Speaker 1: low scoring game because of the conditions.
Speaker 3: Or wanted to see what his defense was going to
Speaker 3: be like, or or felt like he really needed to
Speaker 3: have that second the first possession in the second half.
Speaker 1: I don't know we should ask that's a great question. No, none,
Speaker 1: But nobody in the media has asked. It's not that
Speaker 1: big of a deal. They got other things to worry
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: No, I understand. No, I'm just saying that is a
Speaker 3: good That is an interesting question. And you can't then
Speaker 3: then know what Lea Comb talks tomorrow. Maybe we can
Speaker 3: get someone to ask it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be his decision, but he knows why.
Speaker 1: Vita Van and Kalijah Canty. Oh boy, So that's what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. When they drafted Elijah smaller
Speaker 1: DT very much unlike Vita, very very quick penetrator. Yes,
Speaker 1: you put him next to Vita and his powerful game
Speaker 1: and his and his size and his ability to ability
Speaker 1: to often occupy multiple blockers. They talk about some guys
Speaker 1: they talk about you got to get four hands on
Speaker 1: them to keep him at bay. That should be perfect
Speaker 1: for Elijah right often getting one on ones. But the
Speaker 1: thing about it is Vida, who leads our team in
Speaker 1: sacks this year with five. That whole storyline about how
Speaker 1: he kind of got himself in better shape over the offseason. Huh,
Speaker 1: that is bearing fruit, Casey Rogers. You probably heard one
Speaker 1: with Casey and Phillips on the show on Tuesday and
Speaker 1: was saying how he's just he's got so much more stamina.
Speaker 1: He played sixty defensive snaps in that game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's just able to continue to dominate throughout the game
Speaker 1: and be on the field throughout the game, and he
Speaker 1: had ten tackles, he was in the backfield a lot,
Speaker 1: three quarterback hits. And then Kalijah also had two sacks.
Speaker 1: The two of them accounted for all four of our sacks.
Speaker 1: We clearly need more pressure from somebody on the edge,
Speaker 1: and if we could start getting that with what those
Speaker 1: two guys are doing in the middle, it could be
Speaker 1: one of the league's better pass rushers. Yeah, that's IFFs.
Speaker 1: Those are IFFs, I understand.
Speaker 3: Right, But there's the potentials there, The building blocks are there.
Speaker 3: And it's like you said, the edge rusher, I thought, defensively,
Speaker 3: they played.
Speaker 1: Really really well. You'd like to be able to get
Speaker 1: off the.
Speaker 3: Well, Okay, I'm gonna let me rephrase that I thought defensively,
Speaker 3: they played great until.
Speaker 1: They got to third down. You gotta get up, which.
Speaker 3: Is almost like a team goes ah, we got them
Speaker 3: right where we want them. We're third and long.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of those were short third downs.
Speaker 3: Where they where they Yes, I thought there were a
Speaker 3: couple long.
Speaker 1: There were a couple, but they had eighteen of them,
Speaker 1: so oh yeah. And then one of the third downs
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't convert on a third and one.
Speaker 1: But then they went fourth and fourth and one and
Speaker 1: got in. So that's I mean, it counts as a stop,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't help the game. No, fair enough.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I know we were inside the press box, but I
Speaker 1: know what Arrowhead's reputation is, and it didn't seem that
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly loud.
Speaker 3: Well that's because you had the glass and so it was.
Speaker 1: It was as loud as usual.
Speaker 3: It was pretty loud. Yeah, it seemed loud, and the
Speaker 3: only reason why I'm going by that.
Speaker 1: Is what what I thought.
Speaker 3: Maybe I was saying, well, it dampened it, no pun intended,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm not a fan of not being able
Speaker 3: to hear the crowd. Well mean yeah, yeah, in our headsets.
Speaker 3: I mean, we had crowd. We had the crowd noise
Speaker 3: in our headsets, but it's still it's a very weird
Speaker 3: feeling and I'm not And they remodeled that like twenty ten,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's this big, thick, heavy glass, but
Speaker 3: it's like panels, so you have a sceam like right
Speaker 3: in the set and it's like, you know, right where
Speaker 3: your sight line is, there's a seam.
Speaker 1: You're like, who thought of this? You know?
Speaker 3: But it's also very high. I think it's thirteen and
Speaker 3: a half stories above the field because when you go in,
Speaker 3: you go down right, which is you know, and it's
Speaker 3: it's a cool kind of stadium. I thought it was.
Speaker 3: You know, you're so used to stadiums with easier access.
Speaker 3: That was a That was a long walk for the
Speaker 3: locker room to where the press box was, and then
Speaker 3: afterwards we had you have to roll through where the
Speaker 3: fans are. I guess the some kind of club there
Speaker 3: was right there. Actually, when we were leaving, I walked
Speaker 3: right past Patrick Mahomes. He was standing there talking to
Speaker 3: people and it was like there's no security around nothing.
Speaker 1: Nelson Louis said he was within like a foot of
Speaker 1: Taylor Switch.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he came into the well. He he came
Speaker 3: into our broadcast, but to give us information, and they
Speaker 3: were getting ready to they were showing it, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm on there, I'm on there. You know we're oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're the guy in the corner there, because that's where
Speaker 3: the camera was focused.
Speaker 1: He didn't ask for autograph. I'm assumed, you know.
Speaker 3: A couple of people in the organization, uh got to
Speaker 3: see her and took a picture of her and she
Speaker 3: even said hi. So that was like a big, big moment.
Speaker 3: She hasn't lost yet at Arrowhead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they gave one, yeah, fourteen.
Speaker 3: Fourteen now, yeah, this was the fourteenth one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They they're a good team. They're a good team.
Speaker 1: And then of course they've won the last two super.
Speaker 3: Bowls, so they got a shot. They got a shot
Speaker 3: at going for three.
Speaker 1: It'll be Pat showed as his super Bowl ring from
Speaker 1: last year. While we're out, Oh yeah, when we're out
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. How was it? It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: It was really cool, as cool as ours are cool.
Speaker 1: It had I can't try to remember how it opened.
Speaker 1: It had a way of opening. It wasn't a removable top.
Speaker 1: It was like a pop top something like that lid.
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly, Yeah, but it opened and there
Speaker 1: was other stuff in there.
Speaker 3: I I felt bad he stopped by the booth and
Speaker 3: we were on the air and I didn't get a
Speaker 3: chance to say hello. But it's hard to believe. I
Speaker 3: think he's been out there for like nineteen years now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think two thousand and five was when he
Speaker 1: started crazy. I remember because I had to make some
Speaker 1: changes on the staff softball team.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was usually bad third for us. You lost
Speaker 3: your one of her better headers? Well how about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was good to see Pat and he's obviously
Speaker 1: that move out there is working on now. He that
Speaker 1: was one of his hometowns growing up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's director of video football video right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact title was at this point,
Speaker 1: but he's the main video yeah, football video guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He had been with the Buccaneers since like ninety Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's Dave. They think it was ninety or ninety one.
Speaker 1: It was right before I got here. His dad was
Speaker 1: a coach in the league, which is why he lived
Speaker 1: for some time in Kansas City and for some time
Speaker 1: in Detroit because his dad was working for those teams.
Speaker 3: And he likes it in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well yeah, he got to go home and he
Speaker 1: originally got there Herm Edwards hired him. Yeah right, but
Speaker 1: now he's won four Super Bowl rings in his career.
Speaker 3: Crazy more for the thumb, I know.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and they get increasingly blingy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So all in all, you know, there was things to like.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk yet about Tyke Smith ahead. He's he's
Speaker 1: a bit of a Levante David type in terms of
Speaker 1: being a ballhawk and going for the ball. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got his third force fumble of the season, which is
Speaker 1: tied for second, just one off the league lead. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he seems to be doing that a lot. It was
Speaker 1: good to get him back.
Speaker 3: But you know, coach said, Todd said that he does
Speaker 3: that in practice. I believe he always is trying to
Speaker 3: knock the ball out in practice all the time.
Speaker 1: You know what was funny when talking about this game beforehand, Baker,
Speaker 1: he's using the line and I think he was quoting
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen and he was he was kind of talking
Speaker 1: about how you sometimes just have to take the loss
Speaker 1: on a drive and make sure you don't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over. And so the point the phrase that they
Speaker 1: like to use is every drive ins and a kick.
Speaker 1: So either you're kicking an extra point, are you kicking
Speaker 1: a field goal, or you're punting, but you're not turning
Speaker 1: the ball over or losing the ball on down. Every drive,
Speaker 1: every drive ins and a kick kick And it did
Speaker 1: in this game. Every Buccaneer drive in with a kick. Wow,
Speaker 1: there was three extra points. There was a goal, and.
Speaker 3: We're going to figure out a way to ease that
Speaker 3: into that.
Speaker 1: I like that every drive a KICKO makes you think
Speaker 1: about it a little bit because you don't that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily sound right at first, and you're like, yeah, because
Speaker 1: the other outcomes are turnovers and turnovers on downs.
Speaker 3: Yeah for a second direct.
Speaker 1: Or are you going for it on two?
Speaker 3: But right?
Speaker 1: I like it?
Speaker 3: And who and that's Liam's or Liam.
Speaker 1: Said that and Baker said that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Baker was just saying it because Liam did, but they
Speaker 1: both said that the Bucks are six for six on
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the red zone in the last two games.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And you can just tell from the way that from
Speaker 1: coach Bulls on down Toalk said, this is a team
Speaker 1: that is confident that if it just doesn't hurt itself,
Speaker 1: it can hang with anybody in the league. And I
Speaker 1: think you could say that for the most part, except
Speaker 1: for a couple penalties in this last game, they didn't
Speaker 1: hurt themselves that much. And that goes down to that
Speaker 1: every drive into kicking didn't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3: But Todd's been preaching that the last two games that's
Speaker 3: quit playing.
Speaker 1: The Bucks can't beat the Bucks and the opponent, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they think they can hang with anybody, and then
Speaker 1: you know, wins over Detroit, Washington, Philly kind of prove that, right. Sure.
Speaker 1: So I don't know as as tough of a situation
Speaker 1: as the Bucks would be in if they lost to
Speaker 1: San Francisco. In terms of just looking at this team,
Speaker 1: and especially if we get Mike and Right and Jamel
Speaker 1: back after the break, it it seems like that team
Speaker 1: could win a lot of its games down the stretch.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm overemphasizing.
Speaker 3: No, no, and I think I think it could be
Speaker 3: a lot like last year, where you're up against dire
Speaker 3: straits and things every every week, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, every week you go and then you say,
Speaker 3: where has this team been all year?
Speaker 1: Why all you know, some of it has to do
Speaker 1: with strength to schedule. I mean, we still have two
Speaker 1: games against Carolina, we play a imploding New Orleans team again,
Speaker 1: we play the Giants, I believe. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You you when when the schedule came out, you knew
Speaker 3: it was going to be a tough road here. But
Speaker 3: at least you figured you're gonna get a few. You
Speaker 3: figured that you're gonna take one, one out of two
Speaker 3: against Atlanta. Su Yeah, the odds are you're gonna take
Speaker 3: one out of two New Orleans. You're like, you know,
Speaker 3: that game's always you know, you got a good you
Speaker 3: know that's always a battle. So you're there and then
Speaker 3: you know, well you had the Ravens, Yeah, that's going
Speaker 3: to be a tough one. Kansas City, oh yeah, had
Speaker 3: Detroit Yeah, and then you know, so this last the
Speaker 3: stretch that we're in finishing up with San Francisco, you
Speaker 3: kind of thought it was going to be a little dicey.
Speaker 1: These three weeks look like they were gonna be the
Speaker 1: toughest week.
Speaker 3: I think if you would if you would have picked
Speaker 3: up the Atlanta win, you might not feel as bad
Speaker 3: as you do.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if we'd win one of those Atlanta Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, both teams would be five and four.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, and I think it's crazy you played Atlanta,
Speaker 3: you know in three week times if.
Speaker 1: You were, if you were four weeks but sure, three
Speaker 1: weeks apart, but twice in four weeks, right, if you
Speaker 1: If we had won either of those Atlanta games, both
Speaker 1: teams would be five and four. There would be no
Speaker 1: tiebreaker advantage. So basically you just have to do better
Speaker 1: than them down the stretch, and I think we would
Speaker 1: feel a lot better about the possibility that happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so stupid pylon without a camp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now you know you gotta run. You got
Speaker 3: a good you can you can do it. What can happen?
Speaker 3: But I'm most excited about as we're out of the
Speaker 3: night Monday games. We do have one Sunday game left
Speaker 3: with Dallas, but that could be flexed, could be flexed,
Speaker 3: that could be determined depending on how I mean. They
Speaker 3: don't ever, there's another big game that weekend, the Eagles
Speaker 3: and the Commanders. Okay, that's a one o'clock game.
Speaker 1: They don't like to take Dallas out of those spots,
Speaker 1: right because there's such a big draw, right, However, that
Speaker 1: being said, Philly, Washington big markets, two.
Speaker 3: Big markets, and it's and it could be the NFC
Speaker 3: East crowning.
Speaker 1: Well I'm actually not going on that trip. No, that's
Speaker 1: not the one that is going to go on. Lives there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it still is gonna I if that game got flexed,
Speaker 3: it would still be a four o'clock game. It would
Speaker 3: still I don't think. I don't think. Well maybe not,
Speaker 3: maybe they'd go to one. Yeah, yeah, I mean Dallas
Speaker 3: would have to really really collapse for them to yankeet
Speaker 3: to a one o'clock game. But what's kind of interesting too, though,
Speaker 3: is the Carolina game is a four o'clock game.
Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, why did they ever do that? I have.
Speaker 3: No the idea why that is a four o'clock game.
Speaker 1: None.
Speaker 3: It's weird, very very strange. So so there. But but anyways,
Speaker 3: there's there's opportunities to be had, but you got to capitalize.
Speaker 1: They updated the media schedule, oh did they? So they're
Speaker 1: just gonna have a walk through, yeah, tomorrow. The originally
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a practice, but with so many guys
Speaker 1: banged up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're gonna practice on Friday. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be more of a practice rather.
Speaker 1: But Friday is always a review. You do install on
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, and then you review on Friday, so
Speaker 1: the install is going to be all walked through.
Speaker 3: Well also, you know, a tough game, short week, but this.
Speaker 1: Was originally scheduled to be an actual practice, not a
Speaker 1: walk through.
Speaker 3: Okay, well they they walk through today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably because so many guys are banged up.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's smart. I think that's smart.
Speaker 1: As they're gonna call him on Tristan next. Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, rough in the passer. Uh, false start, he
Speaker 1: gets backed into Bayfield and they throw rough in the
Speaker 1: passer on him. Conspiracy. You're really salty about that. It's
Speaker 1: just he's he's just so good. It's the whole thing,
Speaker 1: especially the face mask one, because I am in the
Speaker 1: the agreement that face mass penalty should be or lack
Speaker 1: thereof should be reviewable. Yeah, I'm with and that one
Speaker 1: would have been overturned. You can't. You can't argue otherwise.
Speaker 3: It was like a sweeping hand that never touched the man.
Speaker 3: He touched his shoulder, yeah, but it went across his face.
Speaker 1: Did you hocus poking? Do you believe in any conspiracy theories. Uh, no,
Speaker 1: none at all. No fake moon landing.
Speaker 3: No, I believe they landed on it.
Speaker 1: I do too. You know, none of them have any
Speaker 1: credit for I don't.
Speaker 3: Believe there's fake elections. I don't believe. I don't believe
Speaker 3: there is.
Speaker 1: What about that they froze the envelope in the year
Speaker 1: the NBA draft so that the Knicks could pull out
Speaker 1: and get the number one picking I have Patrick viewing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in aliens?
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a smarter life than which
Speaker 3: is which is on Earth? Yes, I do think there
Speaker 3: is something.
Speaker 1: Do you think aliens would come here? Uh?
Speaker 3: They might already be here.
Speaker 1: I don't. I agree that. I think it just because
Speaker 1: of the vastness of the universe that there's got to
Speaker 1: be life, somebody, intelligent life somewhere else. I don't think
Speaker 1: they've been here. I don't understand why everybody thinks that
Speaker 1: if aliens come here, they're going to do it stealthily
Speaker 1: and hide.
Speaker 3: Well, they probably did it before you understood what airplanes
Speaker 3: and everything work.
Speaker 1: But why would they be needing to hide if you've
Speaker 1: got the technology to be able to travel I don't know,
Speaker 1: thousands of light years, and you know if we try
Speaker 1: to do that now, it would have to be some
Speaker 1: kind of sub light speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying. If you're smart enough,
Speaker 3: it would take. If you're smartas if if you're smart
Speaker 3: enough to get here, why would you hide?
Speaker 1: You would think you would be technologically superior and have
Speaker 1: nothing to worry about from the from the place you're visiting.
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you just come? Whether they're being hostile
Speaker 1: or or not hostile, they just show up and and
Speaker 1: I mean we and let's say it's some kind of
Speaker 1: great cloaking system, we'd detect them long before they got there,
Speaker 1: and you'd probably start up communication. And if so, let's
Speaker 1: say it's not hostile. They're just expanding their universe. They're
Speaker 1: seeing what other life is out there and meeting them.
Speaker 1: You think they're just becoming Hey, we're the Galaxians and
Speaker 1: we'll be there in two days, and if you want
Speaker 1: to talk, we're not going to do anything to you.
Speaker 1: We'll share technology with you.
Speaker 3: That is injury. Why are we hiding? Either we're going
Speaker 3: to be friends or we're taking you over.
Speaker 1: Either way, they should be way technologically superiorized, fair enough.
Speaker 1: So that's not really a conspiracy theory, because I think
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theory would be that there's already alien.
Speaker 3: There has to be something to this conspiracy thing that
Speaker 3: you you just brought up I.
Speaker 1: Was talking about. I was talking about Tristan and the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that they're targeting him for crazy call.
Speaker 3: Crazy calls. You know, you can't go that many years
Speaker 3: without having penalties, so they're.
Speaker 1: Just trying to even up the ledger exactly. Do you
Speaker 1: want to read some fan questions? Now? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 3: Okay, we have any Okay, fair enough. I hate this
Speaker 3: time change, by the way, because it's already getting dark.
Speaker 3: I mean, for crying out loud, it's already getting dark
Speaker 3: and driving home. I at first, I just you know,
Speaker 3: it's not even six o'clock I left here last night
Speaker 3: or ten after six. I'll take it back, but it
Speaker 3: was dark.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I understand the complaint, and I know
Speaker 1: that bothers a lot of people. I just don't really care.
Speaker 3: Well, here's my here's my feelings about this picket one
Speaker 3: or the other. I don't care what it is. I
Speaker 3: don't care what your time frame is just picket.
Speaker 1: Stay with it.
Speaker 3: You know, Hawaii does not change. Arizona does not change.
Speaker 1: Arizona doesn't change because they don't go on daylight saving exactly,
Speaker 1: because they don't want more sunlight hours in the evening. No,
Speaker 1: that's why they don't change. Well, I say, but most
Speaker 1: communities like want the extra You you you were one
Speaker 1: of them. You want the daylight and no one.
Speaker 3: Well, I act actually just wanted to be natural because
Speaker 3: if you stayed, if it just stays, you're not going
Speaker 3: back and forth.
Speaker 1: But isn't the whole point of of going back now
Speaker 1: so that it'll be lighter in the morning for kids.
Speaker 3: Bustops supposedly, Yes, that is the rumor.
Speaker 1: So you want the kids to be standing out in
Speaker 1: the dark. That's that's what you can so that you
Speaker 1: can see when you're walking.
Speaker 3: Nobody takes the bus anymore. Kids don't even walk to
Speaker 3: school anymore. If you're go past the school in the morning,
Speaker 3: it's lines of cars.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that compared to our childhoods, it's
Speaker 1: a vast we increase and people try their kids to school,
Speaker 1: but kids do still take the bus. I see them
Speaker 1: at the edge of our neighborhood. All right, Alex took
Speaker 1: the bus from.
Speaker 3: Oh, before we go anymore. Since we're talking about driving
Speaker 3: and everything, why don't you tell us you're exciting story
Speaker 3: that you about. Oh, I'm not going to say what
Speaker 3: it is out. Let Scott tell this story because it
Speaker 3: is so good.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Well, you have to explain for anybody that
Speaker 1: didn't hear before or doesn't remember that I have shared anything.
Speaker 1: I've shared an unpopular opinion that I don't generally use
Speaker 1: my turn signal because most of the time you know
Speaker 1: where you're not necessary. Well, I know it's so that
Speaker 1: other people know where you're going. But if I'm turning
Speaker 1: into my neighborhood and there's nobody else around, why do
Speaker 1: I need to use my turn signal?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I am not in the habit like some
Speaker 1: people are of any time they change lanes or any
Speaker 1: time they turn of turning using their turn sgle. I
Speaker 1: have been reprimanded for that by specifically by one policeman
Speaker 1: in Europe. I don't remember which country was it, Germany
Speaker 1: the police officer anyway, he was a police officer, and
Speaker 1: he was explaining to me while I was wrong, and
Speaker 1: I don't think I have much of a legal leg
Speaker 1: to stand on here. But you know, an old dog
Speaker 1: has a hard time learning new tricks, right, So I
Speaker 1: generally do not change use my turn signal and changing lanes. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm having to work a few days ago, and
Speaker 1: there was a guy. It's going down town May the
Speaker 1: major throw the major road through.
Speaker 3: Three lanes.
Speaker 1: Going north, I passed a guy who was in a
Speaker 1: work truck. It was it was like a mini van,
Speaker 1: but it was you know, you could tell us for
Speaker 1: a business. In my opinion, I passed him by quite
Speaker 1: some distance and then pulled into his lane in front
Speaker 1: of him. I don't believe I cut him off. I
Speaker 1: believe I just made a lane change, but maybe some
Speaker 1: people think you you always signal.
Speaker 3: You did your typical lane change continue.
Speaker 1: And then I got off on Hillsboro turned left, and
Speaker 1: this guy also did. He wasn't following me, he was
Speaker 1: just going. He pulls up next to me as we're
Speaker 1: stopped in a light and I have my windows down already,
Speaker 1: and he rolls his window down and it's like, hey man,
Speaker 1: your lights are out, and he's pointing to the back
Speaker 1: of the car. He's like, your light's are out. So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he means break lights, Like really, he said yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm like, all right, thanks, and then he
Speaker 1: rolled his window back up. But just before he got
Speaker 1: all the way up, I'm like, I said, do you
Speaker 1: mean my brake lights? Because I didn't know if he
Speaker 1: remember my brake lights? And he rolls his window back
Speaker 1: down and goes, no, your turn signal because it's obviously
Speaker 1: not working because it didn't work when you cut me
Speaker 1: off back there.
Speaker 3: That's the best.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even I didn't get mad. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it, and I gave him the
Speaker 1: thumbs up. I'm like, that's a pretty good one. I'll
Speaker 1: give you credit. The only hole in the story is
Speaker 1: he was being crazy sensitive about being quote unquote cut off.
Speaker 1: I did not cut him off, but I make an
Speaker 1: effort not to cut people off because it drives me
Speaker 1: crazy when people do it.
Speaker 3: But that is your interpretation.
Speaker 1: How far ahead of him do I have to be
Speaker 1: that I don't need to use my turn signal?
Speaker 3: How do you know when to change a lane?
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you. How do you know when to
Speaker 1: change your lane? Broom when there's plenty of room?
Speaker 3: What do you use as a measurement.
Speaker 1: I am. Usually I was at least two or three
Speaker 1: car links ahead of him. There was no chance that
Speaker 1: he had to hit his brakes or slow down whatsoever.
Speaker 1: That's a big one for me. You should not cut
Speaker 1: in front of them. If they then have to slow down, yeah,
Speaker 1: then you've cut them off.
Speaker 3: Do you know whether he had to slow down or not.
Speaker 1: He clearly did not have to.
Speaker 3: However it bothered him.
Speaker 1: I didn't pay a lot of attention to it because
Speaker 1: I I hadn't cut him off, so I wasn't looking
Speaker 1: for a reaction.
Speaker 3: However, it bothered him enough to be able to say
Speaker 3: something to you.
Speaker 1: He's he was overly said, however I gave him. He's
Speaker 1: clearly one of these people who thinks you should always
Speaker 1: use your turn signal when you're changing lanes. Scott, he
Speaker 1: clearly is right. I disagree. If I were ten car
Speaker 1: links in front of him and I turned without using
Speaker 1: I changed without using my turnsigle? Am I wrong? Thead?
Speaker 1: How far ahead do I have to be?
Speaker 3: I turned my turn signal on even if no one's
Speaker 3: behind me. It's automatic.
Speaker 1: That's what I think is dumb.
Speaker 3: Why because it's.
Speaker 1: Because you don't need to are you gonna say it's
Speaker 1: called a turn signal, It's it's not called a change
Speaker 1: lane signal. You are I wasn't turn No, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're you're gliding, You're not turning turning? Do you turn
Speaker 1: the car like this?
Speaker 3: Would you realize people listening to this right now? Are
Speaker 3: you going Scott?
Speaker 1: Scott? Please write in if you agree with me, Anybody
Speaker 1: out there, if you're with me that it is okay
Speaker 1: to change lanes without using a turn signal. If you're
Speaker 1: not close to cutting somebody off, please give me some
Speaker 1: support somebody.
Speaker 3: I do like the fact that the guy did. It
Speaker 3: was a good, very funny. It was a good, very fun.
Speaker 1: Although I don't know if if I had not said
Speaker 1: do you mean my break lights? Before his window got
Speaker 1: all we rolled up, I would have never known the joke.
Speaker 1: I would have gotten to work checked my lights. Well, man,
Speaker 1: Then like, why did the guy similar.
Speaker 3: To Maybe he assessed it and said, yeah, maybe I
Speaker 3: better not mess around with this guy.
Speaker 1: No he wasn't not worried about me? Yeah he I
Speaker 1: guess he was. I guess he knew enough to know
Speaker 1: that I would ask a follow up question. Ah, but
Speaker 1: I barely got it in before his window clock. But
Speaker 1: he still did it though. It was a good one.
Speaker 1: I'll get credit.
Speaker 3: It has a good story.
Speaker 1: He's a little thin skinned about being quote unquote cut off,
Speaker 1: and I'll give you props.
Speaker 3: I don't give you props and not using your turn signals,
Speaker 3: but I give you props and bringing in this story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I knew you'd enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I did. I enjoyed it the first time, and I
Speaker 3: enjoy it now. And I'm sure our listeners right now
Speaker 3: have an opinion, and I look forward.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that are others that agree with you. But
Speaker 1: if I could just get one person to write in
Speaker 1: and say they're the same as me, that'd be cool.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: This is from Michael and Connecticut. Mike and Connecticut. Now
Speaker 1: remember he's the one who wrote in and had issue
Speaker 1: with my headline of the game story. Yes, after the
Speaker 1: Atlantic game, you had to explain to him that he
Speaker 1: was mistaken in my opinion. He writes back to say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I just listened to the pod. You caught me red handed.
Speaker 1: I was on a long boring teams meeting at work.
Speaker 1: Well I get that, and reading the books app to
Speaker 1: pass the time. I love it. I love it. That's
Speaker 1: so great.
Speaker 3: That's when you know a meeting's too long.
Speaker 1: If almost every meeting is too long. I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer in non meetings. There should be a maximum of
Speaker 1: five people in a meeting, and they should be focused
Speaker 1: on something that matters to all of them. When you
Speaker 1: have twenty people in a meeting and they're talking about
Speaker 1: things that mean that have no focus on you, that
Speaker 1: meeting shouldn't exist. Wow. Okay, I was still salty from
Speaker 1: Sunday and only focused on the first few words from
Speaker 1: the preview of the article and started frantically typing up.
Speaker 1: I stand corrected, Scott, actionary, I stand corrected, Scott, you
Speaker 1: made some valid points. I guess I just really wanted
Speaker 1: to rail on defense and you caught some friendly fire.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I totally enjoyed your rebuttals, and I
Speaker 1: love that I got you going for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I love about the pod. Obviously, this
Speaker 1: is Friday, so no new game notes, but I did
Speaker 1: want to mention the podcast wasn't on Apple Podcasts again
Speaker 1: this week. Really, this is the second time in a
Speaker 1: few weeks. Not sure if you knew. I love the banner.
Speaker 1: Keep up the good work, gents. I did check and
Speaker 1: we have some resolve that problem. What was the issue?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Max told me there was an issue,
Speaker 1: But I asked Max, he fixed it. What does it
Speaker 1: matter he fixed it.
Speaker 3: I know it's a typical Max answer. Though, what's wrong?
Speaker 1: Max?
Speaker 3: It's all done. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't know. I mean, the good thing. The important
Speaker 1: thing here was Mike let us know. Yes, And it
Speaker 1: was either Mike or somebody else the week before who
Speaker 1: had let us know. And I didn't foulow up on
Speaker 1: it then, And I'm like, I got to foul up
Speaker 1: on this this time. So that's been resolved. But always
Speaker 1: let us know if that happens on any of the
Speaker 1: platforms that you use.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're on all the platforms you get your
Speaker 3: normal podcast.
Speaker 1: It's not it's we're on Spotify as an example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not Jeff and I that put it up. No,
Speaker 1: So we're not aware when there's a possible.
Speaker 3: No, all I do is just tell them it's in
Speaker 3: a drop box, and whatever happens happens, and you know,
Speaker 3: and don't forget we're on the serious XM app. If
Speaker 3: you're looking for that on your serious XM app Just
Speaker 3: type in buccaneers and it'll pop up.
Speaker 1: All Anyway, The thing with with Mike's previous email was
Speaker 1: the headline for this for the story after the landing
Speaker 1: game that I wrote was something like turnovers stop Buccaneers
Speaker 1: from keeping pace and shootout. And he had stopped at
Speaker 1: turnovers stop Buccaneers and validly said it was really the
Speaker 1: defense that killed the Bucks in that game. Valid point.
Speaker 1: But my point was because of that, it was a
Speaker 1: shootout and we ended up coming up just shortened a
Speaker 1: shootout because the turnovers took away three of us two
Speaker 1: of our scoring opportunities. Right, So uh, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, it might not have been the best headline
Speaker 1: of all time. One thing about it was I would
Speaker 1: have rather said Turners keep bucks, But then I didn't
Speaker 1: want to say Turner's key bucks from keeping up and
Speaker 1: use keep twice in the same headline. That's bad writing,
Speaker 1: so I changed it to stop and I think that
Speaker 1: was part of the problem.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, this is.
Speaker 1: From Owen and he's from Galway, Ireland, and I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: his name correctly this time. It looks like because he
Speaker 1: gave me the pronounce because it's spelled E I N,
Speaker 1: which I had assumed was eon, but it's Owen Owen
Speaker 1: And he told me that this time, which I appreciate,
Speaker 1: so I can get his name right because he's written
Speaker 1: in before Owen from Galway, Ireland. Hey dogs, watching the
Speaker 1: game again. These Monday night games aren't helping my sleep pattern.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for him, it's really because that one.
Speaker 1: Huh five hours. I have a prediction. For this week's podcast,
Speaker 1: Scott will point out that the Chiefs reverse play on
Speaker 1: their second drive great sack. Yeah yeah, is a reverse
Speaker 1: play and not a double reverse, as it will undoubtedly
Speaker 1: have been mislabeled by many, unless I'm the one who's
Speaker 1: mislabeling it. Also, love the way Liam Cohen designs plays,
Speaker 1: even if the tricks don't always work well. I agree
Speaker 1: with him on that. Yeah, I think, I don't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I meant to look at the play on next Gen
Speaker 1: to see exactly what it was called. I think more
Speaker 1: than and I didn't, So your prediction didn't come true
Speaker 1: unless you count this right. Double reverses are actually are
Speaker 1: almost non existent. You almost never see a double reverse.
Speaker 1: For a double reverse, you would have to hand it
Speaker 1: off once that guy would have to hand it off
Speaker 1: to somebody going the other way, and then that guy
Speaker 1: would have to do it if you send receiver emotion,
Speaker 1: give him the ball and he goes around the end
Speaker 1: like like Shepherd did several times that game. That's not
Speaker 1: a reverse. It's an end a round. But you commonly
Speaker 1: hear it called a reverse. That's the one that gets
Speaker 1: me going. I can't recall on the top of my head,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to slow this podcast down by
Speaker 1: trying to find the play. But I don't think they
Speaker 1: a reverse. I don't remember a reverse. But it definitely
Speaker 1: was not a double reverse. If anybody called a double
Speaker 1: reverse there, Owen's right that they're wrong about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it was a double reverse. I
Speaker 3: think it was like he says it was on there.
Speaker 3: It looked like a fake hand second drive because it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, yah yah made an unbelievable play into Matt
Speaker 3: and coach you and brought this up. People do not
Speaker 3: realize how fast you know, yeah, yeah runs a four
Speaker 3: or five. No, really, that's what I think Coach said,
Speaker 3: only cow yeah for such a big man.
Speaker 1: It is described as Xavier worthy right in to Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay thirty for negative ten yards with the tackle by Diata.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they didn't they did.
Speaker 1: It was probably an end around, I would guess, and
Speaker 1: not even a reverse. Definitely not a double reverse. But
Speaker 1: just to pick knits here, owen, it's not a sack
Speaker 1: for yah yah no, because it wasn't the quarterback.
Speaker 3: It was a tackle for loss yeap, of which he
Speaker 3: had two in that game, and it did take him
Speaker 3: out of the good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. This is from Dan in Palm Harbor. Huh hoy,
Speaker 1: Jeff and Scott, also known as the Salty Dogs. Before
Speaker 1: I talk about the bucks, I'm responding to the candy
Speaker 1: thing last week. You know when we were talking.
Speaker 3: About oh right, yes, all the different candies and how
Speaker 3: you hate which one choices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the weird thing is in different settings, I've
Speaker 1: seen two other people say the same thing. What's that
Speaker 1: that three musk tears is their favorite candy bar. It's
Speaker 1: the most underrated candy bar, which is blowing my mind.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go, hey, he says, I will say
Speaker 3: this though, you did make a comment about if there
Speaker 3: is a bowl of candy and whatever's left, that's usually
Speaker 3: three musketeers. The other day, I did walk by someone's
Speaker 3: candy bowl and the only thing that was in there
Speaker 3: was three months, thank you very much. But I figured
Speaker 3: that's because that's all there was in that bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably wrong, Okay, he says, I don't like
Speaker 1: three Musketeers, so this is a smart man. But there's
Speaker 1: one candy I can't stand, and that's whoppers. I love
Speaker 1: are pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's a malted milk ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's got a nice consistency. It's got a
Speaker 1: little crunch but also a little bit of chocolate. Well,
Speaker 1: just the consistency is nice.
Speaker 3: I'm all, I'm all in on it.
Speaker 1: I can't say I eat a Whopper more than I
Speaker 1: can't remember last time I've ever had one. You can't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of them, and there's not They're
Speaker 1: not a real popular Calloween candy, I don't think.
Speaker 3: Do you know what a snow cap is?
Speaker 1: It's chocolate. They call them non periles. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little dot of chocolate with a little white What are
Speaker 1: the white specs on?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but those are my faves. Those are Seriously,
Speaker 3: I really enjoy you have the weirdest takes, man, I
Speaker 3: really enjoy those, especially when you're at the movies. It's
Speaker 3: not it's usually that's the only place you find.
Speaker 1: Him is at the movies. It's definitely not it's not
Speaker 1: milk chocolate. It's it's like not a very sweet chocolate.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're called non pariles if I'm pronouncing that right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's his So he doesn't like a walk?
Speaker 1: Are snow caps just chocolate chips? In fact, each snowcap
Speaker 1: was exactly the same sign of blah. That's the the
Speaker 1: fact that these are simply chocolate chips with white sprinkles
Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, you're just basically eating chocolate chips out
Speaker 1: of the bag like that you used to make you Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're making chocolate chip cookies. The chocolate chips are not
Speaker 1: that sweet. No, No, I like it semi sweet chocolate
Speaker 1: candy cover with Oh that's what the Those dots are
Speaker 1: called non periles with white non purreles. Okay, I bet
Speaker 1: your money I'm pronouncing that word wrong. Wow, but I
Speaker 1: knew I could see it in my head. That is milky, Jeff,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with them, But how can they be
Speaker 1: your favorite?
Speaker 3: I really like I don't do a lot of candy
Speaker 3: but those are the ones I like.
Speaker 1: You know what, Giselle, my wife was given out and
Speaker 1: there were leftovers of that. I've been eating too many
Speaker 1: of our milk DUTs, Oh, milk DUTs or milk duds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta worry about I'm pulling out your filling. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's another good movie. You know why because they last
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can shoot one for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get your money's worth.
Speaker 1: Those little boxes for Halloween have like four of them
Speaker 1: in there, and it's perfect. Yeah, I'm with you all
Speaker 1: right now onto the bucks. Even though we didn't win,
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of this, fighting through adversity with no
Speaker 1: Evans and godwin.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Still a lot of season left, so anything can and
Speaker 1: will happen. I agree. Hopefully we can win Sunday so
Speaker 1: we can get to five hundred before or bye week.
Speaker 1: Will you guys do a show next week even though
Speaker 1: it's a bye week. We were just talking about that today.
Speaker 1: We're not sure yet. Probably we'll have a game to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be here, I would say more. And
Speaker 3: most likely we'll probably do one next week, may not
Speaker 3: after the bye I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just depends because we want a game to talk about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll see. I think the chances are high that yes.
Speaker 1: Please check and see on whatever wherever you get your podcasts. Anyway,
Speaker 1: since you did, thanks for reading my email. Sincerely, Daniel
Speaker 1: de Maria from Palm Harbor, or Florida. Go Bucks, go okay,
Speaker 1: and then Alexander from Brazil Okay. Hope this finds you
Speaker 1: both well and probably sleepy and possibly wet. Well, not wet.
Speaker 1: I was very sleepy bits of Wednesday, now though I
Speaker 1: re covered. I was really very fortunate. I we took off.
Speaker 3: Do you remember the turbulence we had like fifteen minutes in.
Speaker 3: When we hit that turbulence, I fell asleep and I
Speaker 3: did not wake up until fifteen minutes before we landed,
Speaker 3: So I almost got two hours in.
Speaker 1: It's impressive.
Speaker 3: I was very impressed with it. And I didn't put
Speaker 3: my seat back at all. I just put my head
Speaker 3: down and closed my eyes.
Speaker 1: I worked. I worked a little while, and then I watched.
Speaker 3: I noticed you had a little bit of room, so
Speaker 3: you were very very pleased.
Speaker 1: Every time I get that chance, I do as much
Speaker 1: work as I can.
Speaker 3: You slid over it and you were working. Your computer
Speaker 3: was on the aisle seat. You were working away, you know,
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm starting to think we are needing a little
Speaker 1: bit of luck this season. Good point. You know, for
Speaker 1: you to win it all, you also have to be lucky,
Speaker 1: and that's almost always true. Like we were one of
Speaker 1: the least gingery teams in twenty twenty. Yeah, in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one we had Godwin and Worf's injuries that proved
Speaker 1: to be too much to overcome against the Rams. This season,
Speaker 1: in Week five, nobody could see Irving's face mask being
Speaker 1: pulled and lost the coin toss. In week seven, we
Speaker 1: had Godwin in mic injuries in wee k eate we
Speaker 1: did not have enough cameras on the field last night,
Speaker 1: the coin was not kind to us. Again, yes, true
Speaker 1: and a fan of face mask. Anyway, we get focused
Speaker 1: on winning the next game. That's the only thing we
Speaker 1: have to worry about. Whin the next one, and I
Speaker 1: believe we will be in the hunt for the playoffs
Speaker 1: and who knows the division? I like it, since you did.
Speaker 1: Thanks for reading. Alexander Nessamento from South Paul Berzillaps. We
Speaker 1: are still waiting for Salty Dog's murders.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that's fair like.
Speaker 1: I do like his attitude. This is from Colton in Idaho. Dogs.
Speaker 1: We have to do something about Baker. We have to
Speaker 1: teach him how to correctly predict a coin flip. Lol,
Speaker 1: Well you only.
Speaker 3: Got yeah, yeah, fifty to fifty chance, right, it doesn't
Speaker 3: really matter. Are the odds the same no matter what?
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't yeah, yes, yeah, It's not dependent on
Speaker 1: previous coin folks. Any given coin flip, Now, if you
Speaker 1: flip the coin ten times, if the first nine are heads,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean choose Tales because there's any greater chance
Speaker 1: of it happening. Right, I was looking for a co
Speaker 1: But the chances are that if you flip the coin
Speaker 1: ten times, they're not going to be ten heads. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean after nine heads there's any more chances
Speaker 1: of the next one. Fair enough, Tales. When they showed
Speaker 1: the coin toss on the broadcast coin toss to broadcasts,
Speaker 1: you could tell immediately Baker knew it was going to
Speaker 1: be a lost when the coin landed on heads. I
Speaker 1: wish the NFL would look into the OT rules and
Speaker 1: make some changes. Possibly the traveling team always gets the
Speaker 1: ball first, and if they score a TD in hostile
Speaker 1: road environment. The game is over, that's never gonna fly.
Speaker 1: Just need to mention that it seems that Zebras have
Speaker 1: a smear campaign against the best tackle in the league,
Speaker 1: Tristan Wurfs. That the flags the last couple weeks against
Speaker 1: him have been questionable to say the least. Oh great,
Speaker 1: Just an fyi, the podcast didn't pop up on Spotify
Speaker 1: Spotify until Friday of last week. What got to check
Speaker 1: into that? One? On to the next one. Golden Phipps,
Speaker 1: Official Idaho Buccaneers Ambassador. All right, one more. This is
Speaker 1: from Robert Humphrey.
Speaker 3: When I when I send the email that this is
Speaker 3: ready to go, I'm going to say, please ensure that
Speaker 3: it makes it to all.
Speaker 1: Platforms and maybe specifically point out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had spot Spotify and Apple and Apple.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this is from Robert Humphrey. We've heard
Speaker 1: from him before. He says, hello dogs. I remember from
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six to now, if we had nothing, we
Speaker 1: had a defense. Now the last few seasons we have
Speaker 1: an offense. After last night's game, it is easy to
Speaker 1: be the armchair quarterback or coach. With that said, do
Speaker 1: we not play to win the game? You guys filling
Speaker 1: the rest. He's talking about the not going for two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still I'm not in the camp of all,
Speaker 3: you got to go for two.
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I get you, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a valid argument. So it's not a situation where even
Speaker 1: if I personally in that situation would have gone for two.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not an NFL head coach, and
Speaker 1: I so I don't know how far you can take that.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing that people are forgetting. The Buccaneers
Speaker 3: had the ball and they were three and out or
Speaker 3: something like that. Then uh, Kansas City got the ball back,
Speaker 3: and the defense did stop them, and they allowed them
Speaker 3: enough time stopped Kansas City. We allowed the Bucks enough
Speaker 3: time to score a touchdown to tie. So your defense
Speaker 3: did show up at that point.
Speaker 1: There was definitely some things that Todd liked about how
Speaker 1: the defense played. I think third downs were the issue.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, So, yeah, I think us And if you
Speaker 3: would have if you would have tied and you wanted
Speaker 3: a coin toss and you scored first, then you're not
Speaker 3: even having that conversation.
Speaker 1: The arguments are there, Jeff, we get it. We've already
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot. I still don't mind if
Speaker 1: a guy like Robert here is of the opinion that
Speaker 1: you should have gone for it. But I think that's
Speaker 1: a valid argument.
Speaker 3: Is well, how many people would though, if you went
Speaker 3: for it and didn't get it and the game was
Speaker 3: over with you lost.
Speaker 1: How many people would what be upset by that? They'd
Speaker 1: be upset the outcome. But if they, if they, like me,
Speaker 1: before the decision which you should go for it, I'd
Speaker 1: have to it's just what I would have done, all right,
Speaker 1: that you will if I go. I said it beforehand,
Speaker 1: So if we had not succeeded, I would not have
Speaker 1: been upset about the decision because I thought it was
Speaker 1: the right decision. I'm not even sure I'm right about
Speaker 1: it being the right decision, but I thought it was
Speaker 1: the right decision, So I can't complain if it doesn't work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was probably fifty five percent chance that.
Speaker 3: It didn't work, so but still, yeah, I know, you know,
Speaker 3: I like, yeah.
Speaker 1: It stinks that these games are coming down to that
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: A well there you go, that's you said it best
Speaker 3: right there. It's things that it comes down to that
Speaker 3: where you're arguing about that, right, So all right, it
Speaker 3: is it is though. I will say this though, if
Speaker 3: the defense can just shore it up a little more,
Speaker 3: it could be a lot of fun because the offense
Speaker 3: is humming, which is if you're a Buccaneer fan, you're
Speaker 3: just not used to that.
Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty Yeah, even twenty nineteen with jamis other
Speaker 1: than the interceptions. Other than but I'm saying big numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: since and then the whole time Brady, Well, the first
Speaker 1: two years of Tom Brady era was probably the best
Speaker 1: two offenses we've ever had. Yeah, wasn't quite as good
Speaker 1: a twenty two and then I had a nice rebound
Speaker 1: last year behind Baker.
Speaker 3: And speaking of Tom, he'll be here calling the game
Speaker 3: and the broadcast. So that's all I got, Jeff, is
Speaker 3: that it totally well. This was good. Make sure you
Speaker 3: comment on turnson.
Speaker 1: I please, if you agree with me and give me
Speaker 1: some support.
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to rephrase that if you have a
Speaker 3: thought or a comment about turn signals.
Speaker 1: Period please and the usage thereof and when it's necessary
Speaker 1: and why would I need to use my turn signal
Speaker 1: when I'm ten car likes ahead of a car?
Speaker 3: Okay, on that, I'll say, since you did, thanks for
Speaker 3: this