1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: so please subscribe or you're gonna make ocho crime. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Ojo. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Before we get into our first topic, Yeah, something happened 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: yesterday and you wanted an opportunity to respond, So the 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: floor is yours. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, listen, listen. 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 4: Cam Cam has some stuff to say, and I had 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: I had to think about it, and I had to 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 4: listen to it and think about some stuff that that 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 4: that was brought up from two years ago where I said, Cam, 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 4: you my man's and I'm coming for your spot. Now, 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that's taking this hate when all 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 4: you have to do is understand that I'm saying I'm 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 4: coming for your spot because I see you as the 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: standard that is setting the bar in that specific space. 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: So you took that as an insult, which is weird 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: to me. I'm not sure how you can do that. 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: But if you check the motherfucker, if you check the numbers, 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: what I said I was gonna do, I've already done 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: and surpassed that in this specific space. 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Now, he said. 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: He asked me to come join them, you know, to 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: do something with them, and I told him, you know, okay, 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: you got to check. 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 3: With my people. 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: You got to reach out to my people who when 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: it was time for me to work with you? 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: What did I ask you to do? Reach out to 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: who I talked to? 33 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Doug? 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: You talked the dog so boom? We didn't you know 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: like that? That's the way I handle business. 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: You know. 37 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: I don't run nothing through me. So I guess that 38 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: was seen as a sign of disrespect because I chose 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: to come over here with you. 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: Boom. 41 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: Okay, now we brought up the issue with He talked 42 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: about money and bags and how much you paid guest feature. 43 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: You know how much we pay our guest guess features. Buddy, 44 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: I ain't no guest feature. Well, I'm the main attraction. 45 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: What did you talk What did you talk about? I've 46 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: always been the main attraction. There's a there's a difference 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: in your lane. 48 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: You do what you do. 49 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: I'm in completely different lanes and completely different rooms from you. 50 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: Despite me always playing around and joking, it's different. For one, 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: you wouldn't have been able to afford me to begin with. 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: Let's start them and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. 53 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be disrespectful on I think because 54 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: I do everything entertaining, fun, laughing away, you kind of 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: forget and don't really understand what's being done over here 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: and how special what we have is. And that's no 57 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 4: disrespecting them because I like they show. I love it 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: is what it is, because it's different than what we do. 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: Their views, they got some high ones, but it's mainly 60 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 4: about going at people and jigging at. 61 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: People you know. 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: Over here it's about having fun, entertaining and the stories. 63 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: Yea completely different, two different shows. I love them though. 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Then you know Cam, he's a Harlem dude. I've been 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: to Halem. My face is cleaning Harlem most of the time. 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: Those that I know from Harlem, you know, they don't 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: act like that. He's getting a little emotional for nothing, 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: especially about stuff. 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: One years ago, two. 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: Years ago, and it was it was a sign of 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: respect because I see you as the standard of what 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: it is to be the best at in this space. 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: Then the stephen A, the stephen A thing you talk 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: about weird and I don't like you don't like my vibes. 75 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Listen for one the whole world. No, I'm joking and trolling. 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: It's a it's a funny story that wasn't even true 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: to begin with, and you took that serious. 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: So then now you're. 79 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: Getting personal with the words and the talking. I post 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: my location where I'm at every day. Un what you 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: tell me to stop doing? Stop catching rides from the airport. Right, 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: everybody know where I am every single day, no matter 83 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: what city I travel to. 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm outside all the time. 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: If it was really an issue, or you really didn't 86 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: like me and it was a problem, I'm easy to find, 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: especially in Miami. If I'm not mistaken, you be here, 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: y'all feel here. If I'm not mistaken, I show everybody respect. Huh, 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: I show everybody love. What's one problem that you've always 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: gotten on me about doing a show like this, I 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: don't do enough. 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: What when it comes to talk about. 93 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Players, Yeah, you don't critique enough. 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: I don't critique enough because I'm always showing love. I'm 95 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: always showing respect no matter what. I never get out 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: of line with nobody. 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Right. 98 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: But the words that were displayed is if it's a 99 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: personal issue. Now, if it's a personal issue, which I've 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: never had with anybody because I always show everybody loved 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: and respect. I'm easy to find because I'm outside, always 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: in hall them too. That's your stomping grounds, right, I'd 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: be at Ricardos all the time. Matter of fact, I'm 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 4: gonna be in New York Monday. You gonna be at 105 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: Ricardos at five o'clock, to be exact. 106 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: But it's it's it's always. 107 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: Love, no never disrespect, and that's it. 108 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: And I love it. 109 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: I love and I love you, unless you want to 110 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 4: go another route. 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: The way I look at it, thought you. I think 112 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: you explained too much. You did what you did. 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: You don't you're not You don't represent yourself most people, 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: that's why you hire representation. If you didn't want representation, 115 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: you could have done it on yourself. And yeah, you 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: could save three, five ten percent, but you chose to 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: have a representative that funnels everything through. I reached out 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: the dog because I knew Doug was your representative. I 119 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: didn't reach out to you first. I reached out the Doug. 120 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I said, hey, man, what's up with Ocho? Where are 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: I want to run something by Ocho? Funny Ocho in town? 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 5: Hey? 123 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Can we meet at the poem and such and such 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: and such and such a time you showed up. I 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: made the pitch to you. You said, Uncle, I'm good. 126 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: I said, well, listen, don't even worry about the money. 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: I trust you. So that was that's what. That's how 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: we handle that. 129 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't like. 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: I said, look for people like man, you don't. I said, bro, 131 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: y'all got to know what Jo serious. And y'all got 132 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: to know. With Ojo joking, y'all don't seem to know 133 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: which is which. So that's on y'all. I know when 134 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: he's joking. I know when he's being serious. But for me, 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Ojo and we had this conversation and you hit me 136 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: up yesterday, I said, for me, I just let it rock. 137 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I felt just then you explained too much. 138 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I listen. Sometimes you got sometimes you got. 139 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: You got the clarive air, right, you got, you got 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 4: the clard air, because then you have an issue, right when. 141 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: He could have called you, Ojo, if that was the 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: case he if he had an issue with you, he 143 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: could have reached out the phone and he could have 144 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: called you. 145 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 3: That's that's how I know it wasn't an issue. 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: It was. 147 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't no issue for real. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: You have a show to do, you have he has 149 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: a show to do. He has a show to do. 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: And I understand that. I understand that. But the disrespect. 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: You don't have to like me. I don't care about 152 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: that part. 153 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 6: Get in line. 154 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: It's a lot of. 155 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: Them, right, but the disrespect like that, and then you 156 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: got the wrong people hearing it, and it's ruffling feathers. 157 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: It really shouldn't be ruffling because I don't move like that, 158 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: never have. But I think anyway, and then oh and 159 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: this is another thing. Hold on, then't talk about the 160 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: money in the pocket watching I do. I have a 161 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: question through the understand how many jobs I have. 162 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. 163 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: I got fifty left jobs. 164 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: Then you, being slick at the mouth, talk about if 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: you need a job. 166 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: I ain't hiring. 167 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: No more on this me, What did you talk? What 168 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: are we talking about? There's levels to everything. You in 169 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: one lane, I got about fifty level of them. There's 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: a difference. But because I play around and have fun 171 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: with it, for some reason, you think we're. 172 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: On the same level. It ain't never been that. 173 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: Even if you was in your prime, there's the difference. 174 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't would I'm humble well, see, I am glad, 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: but see where everybody was coming from. 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: You, Like I tried to tell you? 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: What did I tell you? What I tell you? 178 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: I was? 179 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: I was enforsa, right. 180 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: I go, I said I was enforser. 181 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just addressing what was 182 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: addressed towards me in a respectful way and a respectful 183 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: way still as a small reminder for. 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Me, o jo the reason why I stopped and I said, 185 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going back and forth with nobody. And there 186 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: have been a couple of guys still taking shots. They 187 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: got too much money at stake. 188 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 4: I'm not Yeah, oh hey, say it again on more time. 189 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: We got too much money at stake, too much money 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: at stake. 191 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: And if master P, master P and Gilly say, boy say, 192 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: if you ain't careful, they'll trick you out your spot. 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: They're not going to get me at this spot. 194 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: That ain't even happen, because. 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: That ain't gonna happen. 196 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: Because I wish they whatever issue y'all may or may 197 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: not have, I don't know, I don't know. I don't 198 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: know anything about this. All I know is that Oho, 199 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: you and I, Hey, we do nightcap. We do what 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: we do, and we keep it moving. We don't talk 201 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: about We don't talk about anybody else on their podcast, 202 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: no matter what they say about us, no matter what 203 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: they do, whatever their numbers are, whatever their views, whatever 204 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: they downloads, whatever advertise or sponsorship, they have congratulations Because 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: what I know, eighty percent of the money that's in 206 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: circulation was printed in twenty twenty moving forward. So guess 207 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: what if the government runs out of money, they'll print more. 208 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: There's enough for everybody to choose to do this. Yeah, 209 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: a nightcap or all the smoke, the pivot, it is 210 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: what it is. Whoever a podcast, whoever have a podcast. 211 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: There ain't no reason for us to be beefing Joe Rogan, 212 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: ain't be beefing with Call or Daddy. They're not beefing 213 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: with Caleb. They're not beefing with THEO Vaughn. I don't 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: know why we got issues. 215 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: Now, Listen, we don't. We don't have no issues. 216 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: But why we got address? Why we got addressing? 217 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: Listen, you listen, Call you listen to me. 218 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: This is what you get. 219 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: This is what you gotta do. 220 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: You know, if somebody, if somebody says something, then it's 221 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: it's our right to respond it is. 222 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: Listen to me, let me finish that. 223 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: In a respectful way, in a respectful way. What there's 224 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 4: a misunderstanding because for one, like I said, what was 225 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: said that that tweet out two years ago? It was 226 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: it was a sign of respect. Well, I'm coming for 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: your spot because I see you as that bull. 228 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: We should have addressed it. Why address now? 229 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: Because it's it's good, it's good. 230 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a bad thing. Uh you know. 231 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: But but again, I always show love and respect everybody always. 232 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: Now you don't have to like me, but you really 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: respect me. And if they listen, if there is an issue, 234 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: I post everywhere I'm at and will never change that everywhere. 235 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, can we move on now, because I think we've 236 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: given them seventeen minutes too much of our time. 237 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute. That that's what it's about. That's 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: what it's about. It is what it is. You know, 239 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: we love what they do. I love what they do. 240 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: You feel me, it's a funny show them boys, funny. 241 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: You know, we got our own we got our own thing. 242 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: We do our thing in our lane. 243 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: Like you say, it's enough room for everybody, meaning, let 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: nobody trick us out our spot, especially by that money, 245 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: because I got fifty lem kids to raise, and I 246 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: gotta got house. 247 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: I got to decorate. Now where we at were good? 248 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Huh, we're good. 249 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: We're done with this topic. We're done with this chat. 250 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: Don't jump in there and somebody, did you see what 251 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: he said? 252 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't care. 253 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: They can talk about me all they want to. Hey, 254 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't o Cho. Hopefully Oo is done with this. 255 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: They come to say he said what he said? Ocho responded, 256 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: hopefully we can move on. But for me, I ain't 257 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: got no issue with nobody. Like I said, I refuse 258 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: to go back and forth. I don't feel really a 259 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: need to whether or not they like us, or like 260 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: me or dislike Ocho, or whatever the case may be. 261 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I wish you guys nothing but the best. 262 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: But I do know there's enough room for everybody to 263 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: get to get a piece of this pie, and so 264 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: that's the way I'm gonna approach it. 265 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: So hold on, hold on, come on with that humble shit. 266 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 4: There's enough room for everybody to get the piece of 267 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: the pie, but you know who gonna get the bigger piece? 268 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 4: Many that's enough room for the pipe, but you know 269 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: gonna get the bigger piece. 270 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, there's something I want to address just came 271 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: brought to my attention. Is that, Oh cho everyone's family. Okay, 272 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Shaq about the comments that I said last night, Shaq said, 273 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: you took me sticking up for Shade as jealousy of 274 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Joker shows how smart you are and how you say 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: anything to get clicked. That's not what I did. But anyway, 276 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: so here's the cliquebaite for you. If I ain't ranked 277 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: in the top ten of your profession, then you can't speak. 278 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: Don't forget. I know what you did to get where 279 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: you're at. Me jealous sounds like you jealous. I know 280 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: you're trying to stay relevant by gossiping on your podcast. 281 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: We don't we don't believe you. You need more people 282 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: in the cage. You forgot four rings, three finals, MVPs, 283 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: top fifty, top seventy five, and to be quite frank, 284 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: all this success you got still under me. You don't 285 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: know my work ethic, but according I work lest but 286 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: noth blah blah blah. But anyway, love love you, Love 287 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: you too. If you need help making money, it's better 288 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: ways than gossiping. I'm too old for this. Ish love 289 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: always the most dominating big man ever never took it. 290 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: Sais. 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: Remember I know you and you know words of skip 292 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: better something better than you hashtag G fourteen classification. 293 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I have it, you don't not in my profession. 294 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: Wait when that happened? 295 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: He just about ten minutes ago. 296 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 6: I'm checking checking the chat. 297 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: No, he on ig. I've never professed. I've never professed 298 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: that I was his greatest shock. But what I will say, yes, sir, 299 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: I got what I got because I worked my ass off. Now, 300 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: Shack has been the one to say it that he 301 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: didn't work as hard, he didn't train as hard, he 302 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: didn't eat as well as he should have. Right, Shack 303 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: is the one that anytime someone wins an MVP, he 304 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: talks about how he should have been the MVP over 305 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: Steve Nash. Now you guys have heard me speak glowingly. 306 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: I say, Travis Kelsey is better tight than I was. 307 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: So was Grom So was my guy what's his name? 308 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: It was? For the Chargers Antonio Gates, Gonzo Big Winslow. 309 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm cool. I got no problem. 310 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: You know why I got no problem, oyo with giving 311 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: people credit because I got everything out of my God 312 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: given ability. God gave me the ability to do what 313 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: I could do. But he gave me discipline, he gave 314 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: me dedication. The way I trained, the way I ate, 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: the way I slept. So this was all I could 316 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: get right now. I would have felt some type of 317 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: way if I'd have got these numbers. And I half 318 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: asked it, but I never half asked it. Every I mean, 319 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: Kobe said Shaq should have won and they should have won, right, 320 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: but he took. But my thing is is that you can't. 321 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: And it said the greatest characters, it's Shack. I'm the 322 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: greatest character. No Am I a top one hundred player. 323 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: No Am I the equivalent as a football player as 324 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Shaq was basketball player. No, but what I did do 325 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: is that I maximized that. And my question if Shaq, 326 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: and yeah, because this rough on the back, my question is, 327 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: do you believe that you gave everything you possibly could 328 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: in basketball? Did you train the way you should have? 329 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: Did you eat the way you should have? Did you 330 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: That just goes to show you how great you was, 331 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: is that you didn't. You allowed your weight to get 332 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: out of control, the injury started to creep up, and 333 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: you got four rings and you got three finals MVP. 334 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: See, I'm mad man. 335 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: I wish I understand you, because I wish I understood 336 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: God damn basketball. So when you talking about Shaq, especially 337 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: during that time, think about this. If I don't know 338 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: basketball now the way I should, the way you do, 339 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: Like what you're telling me right now, it's like I'm 340 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: trying to process the shit. Think about it, but I 341 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: can't because I wasn't watching it back then. 342 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: Think about it. 343 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, he's the most he's the most dominant big 344 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: man in the history of the game. 345 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I know that he got yes and he got one MVP. 346 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: So I but think about this, think about how they 347 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: just I'm not gonna say rob I don't want to 348 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: use the word rob they took They robbed Shade, thirty 349 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: thirty points, number one seed. 350 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't get it there. 351 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: What's the criteria, what's the criteria for MVP? If this 352 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: gave it the Joker again. 353 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: But I don't think they gave it because Joker was 354 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: top ten and points top ten, and rebounds top ten 355 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: and assists and they basically had the same record they 356 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: just had. Okay, see just had a better division record. 357 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: So you're talking about so it's not like Shae. They 358 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: were the number one seed and Joker was number ten. 359 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, okay, okay. 360 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: If you took what I said of the slight, okay, 361 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: I can get it, and people say, well with See, 362 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: my thing is is that I'm not saying that. I've 363 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: never said I was the quitter, and I'm quick to 364 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: say that when I said, when I talk about Kevin 365 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Duran or I talk about any player, I said, I'm 366 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: not the equivalent basketball player. But all I can do 367 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: is maximize my ability. 368 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: Shock. 369 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: No, deep down, he could take all the shots. Yeah 370 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: you got more money. Yeah you're more famous to me. 371 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah you're more well known. You're gonna have way more 372 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: money than I ever have. But nobody will ever say 373 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: that I was lazy or I cheated myself. That's all 374 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: I got for you, big boy. I ain't got none 375 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: else for you. Shot, I ain't got no, I ain't 376 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: here to argue with you. I'm not here to debate 377 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: with you. It is what it is, and I can't 378 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: do any more on the football field. You can't do 379 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: any more in the basketball court. Yes you were great, 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: Yes you were great, but you know, deep down you 381 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: should be in the top five, not top ten because 382 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: you just said who else was the most dominant? 383 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: You said you were the most dominant. Most people agree 384 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: you were the most dominant. 385 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: So I have a question. Now, yes, here we go. 386 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: Here we go again, with my lack of basketball fucking knowledge. 387 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 4: If Shack was the most dominant to ever play at 388 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 4: his position, right. 389 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: The five, the center, how is he not goddamn top five? 390 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: Ask him? Ask the people that say it's Shack in 391 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: the top five. Ask them. 392 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: But I'm assuming people, I'm okay, I need to take 393 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: a fucking course or something. If he's top five, if 394 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 4: he's the best big man of all time, then he 395 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: has to be in everyone's top five. 396 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: You got Jordan, you got Kobe Lebron. I'm assuming. I don't. 397 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know how the. 398 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: What I've done. 399 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: I've told people my criteria for the top five. I say, 400 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: for me, for you to be in the top five, 401 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: you have to have at least you have to have 402 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: more than one regular season MVP. 403 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: That's my criteria. 404 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: Now something people say, well, Shannon, as long as you 405 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: got this or as long as you got that, that's 406 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: their criteria. 407 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: Like you said, what is the criteria for the MVP? 408 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 5: Wait? 409 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 4: I have a question, why do Why does the individual 410 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: award matter to be included in the top five or something? 411 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: In general? 412 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: If you if you were he was the most dominant. 413 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: You're the most You got much dominant you got, You're 414 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: the most dominant, and you only win one MVP? So 415 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: how dominant were you? I believe he's the most dominant. 416 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: I do because I watched him play. Now, I didn't 417 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: see Will, and I'm not finish saying I didn't see Will. 418 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: I just saw just see Will's numbers. But for the guy, 419 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: and I started following basketball black in the late seventies. 420 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: So as far as dominant, Shaq was it, Shaq was it. 421 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: Shaq is the most dominant player, which means he should 422 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: have more than one regular season MVP. 423 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 4: So when he was playing and he was dominant during 424 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: these years, who the hell was winning the damn. 425 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: M v ps. 426 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Jordan's uh Lebron won some m vps. 427 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: Uh Shaq came in in ninety two, So Jordans, Karl Malone, 428 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, Hey Broke Barkley, Elijah Wan. 429 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash. 430 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 6: Hey hold On, hold On Barkley won m v P yeah, hey, hey. 431 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, see people people laugh at Charles and all, no. 432 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: What hell? 433 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey with Charle he was the foe. 434 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: He was a power forward. 435 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll undersized though, he very undersized. Yes, okay, yes, yes. 436 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I can't I can't. 437 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 6: I can't see. 438 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: I can't see Chuck outside of t N T or see. 439 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: I can't see him outside of all that. You're not 440 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: dominating on the basketball court. 441 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no no no no, no no no. 442 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: He was the real deal. He was the real He 443 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: was the real deal. 444 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: That's live. 445 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: That's liar. 446 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Hey, but I put it like this here. 447 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: If Shaq if Shaq, let's just say Shaq came in 448 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: in ninety two and he stayed at three twenty five. 449 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: Ain't no way he doesn't have four or five MVP. 450 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: There's no no way he doesn't have four, he doesn't 451 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: have five six and the uh finals. 452 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: Wait, when he was in Orlando, you said he was 453 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: three twenty five. 454 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: When he came out, he selve one three twenty five. 455 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: Hey, that's man, that's a big human black Yeah. 456 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: God Lee, And that's why I say you're never We're 457 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: never gonna see a Shaquille O'Neal again. People talk about 458 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: we're not gonna see a Jordan, We're not gonna see 459 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: a Lebron. 460 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: We're not gonna see a Kobe. Right, We're never gonna 461 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: see a guy his size to be able to move 462 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: like that, that can move. 463 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 4: Hey, you know the little clip remember the little kit 464 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: with him and Jordan playing around at the All Star Game? 465 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 6: Yes, and he hit the Hey yeah, boy, buddy footwork. 466 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: What shack football They used to have. 467 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: They used to have a show on I forget the 468 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: name of the show where like Shaq would like Shaq 469 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: would like he would like go play flag football and 470 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: he did other sports. 471 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: Actually, oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember that. 472 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: Did you watched you see Shack Run? 473 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 474 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: Episode, I remember the episode where nobody had that size. 475 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: You never gonna see a guy that size with that 476 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: kind of athletics system. 477 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: You're not. But maybe this, okay, this is my opinion. 478 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: I believe had Shock taken it as serious as Kobe, 479 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: as serious as George, as serious as as as as Lebron. 480 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: With what he know and the access that he had. 481 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: So because as you get to that level, you have 482 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: access to the best trainers, you have the access to 483 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: the best nutritionist, the best chef. Yeah, that's just my 484 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: personal opinion, right. 485 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 6: So hey man, y'all, you know what, I ain't got 486 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 6: no beef with Shaq. 487 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: Ain't know, but now we can't. We can't have no 488 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: beef for Shack. We ain have no beef for Shock 489 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: because I don't want to have to jump on him. 490 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: You know, I love lit now you laughing. I love Shack. 491 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: Now. I told you, we ain't doing no. 492 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: More beasts nobody. 493 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 6: I don't know what we can do. 494 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: And what we can do is we can have a 495 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: healthy dialogue based on how we feel about you know, 496 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: individuals and their respective crafts and and and and that's it. 497 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes they might take offense to it. 498 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: Shack, we love you, Shack. 499 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: You know I love you. Know how I feel about you. 500 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 5: You know you You're a dog. 501 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: And that there were there were no issues, there were 502 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: no problem. We were just talking about the subject matter 503 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: in which I don't know much about. 504 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: But here's the fact if Shack, but see Shack, Shack 505 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: is looking at what I'm saying in a vacuum. Because 506 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Shaq is the most dominant and nobody they've never bestow 507 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: that title on another. Five other will so Yoki is 508 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: just not more dominant, but he has more regular season MVPs. 509 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Guys are not more dominant, but he has he had, 510 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: and so that's what I'm saying. I believe me personally, 511 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: and chat y'all can disagree, agree or disagree. But Shaques 512 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: said he didn't take practice here. He said, I was 513 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: gonna get beat up in the game. So why was 514 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: I gonna get beat up in practice? You can't think, 515 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: O Jo, well, I'm gonna run it, Oyo. 516 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: Think about this. Think about what he said now. 517 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: He said he didn't go hard in practice because he 518 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 2: didn't want to get beat up in practice because hes 519 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: gonna get beat up in the game. What if you said, 520 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: you know what, I didn't rid no routes full speed 521 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: in practice because I was gonna run a full. 522 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Speed in the game. 523 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: Dang. 524 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: He said on numerous occasions he wished he had taken it, 525 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 2: he had trained harder and kept his weight under control. 526 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: But I guess me pointing that out what he said, 527 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: I guess he you know that's where I am, cause 528 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, O Joe, you know I was able to 529 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: walk away from the game and never ever look back 530 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: because I got everything I could out of this seventh 531 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: round draft selection. Out of this body, nobody will ever 532 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: say did people have more talent than Shannon? Yes, God 533 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: gave them back, But you ain't gonna find nobody to 534 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: say that I worked it. Yeah, And that's all I had. 535 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: So eight fifteen ten thy sixty sixty two touchdowns, eight 536 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl for first team, All Pro, five total, three 537 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 538 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: That's all I got on yo, That's all. That's all 539 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: I could get out of what God gave me. I 540 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: couldn't get anything else. And about them and by my podcast. 541 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: My podcast is what it is. Some people like it, 542 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: some people don't. More people like it than don't. The 543 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: numbers speak for itself. So I wish you the best 544 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: on your podcast and your platform, but I ain't got 545 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: I ain't hear the bad shack go back and forth. 546 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no, we aint gonna do that. We ain't 547 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: gonna do that. 548 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: But what we can do is we can have a 549 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: nightcap versus T and t Royal rumble, like if them 550 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: boys won't smoke, we could we can get it on huh, Like, listen, 551 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: you get shocked. I hit I hit Kenny, I hit Kenny, 552 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: and I push Kenny over. 553 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and me and Chuck. We'll go. Me and Chuck, 554 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: we can go. 555 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: We can go. 556 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: We can go to the toe to nightcap versus T 557 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: and T. 558 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 559 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: It's it'll make me none and we could be friends 560 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: right after and go eat. 561 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: Look it is what it look, man, it is what 562 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: it is. I mean, look, and here's the thing, and 563 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: this is this. We're all wired like this, Joe. We 564 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: really are all we really are. Somebody can say a 565 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: thousand times Shannon's great, but it's the one time that 566 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: they say, I'm not that. 567 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Do you fixate on? How many times have I larded Shack? 568 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: But it's the one time what he fixated on And 569 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay. 570 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Listen. We all love each other, Shack, We love your baby. 571 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: You ain't got no beef with Shack. I ain't never 572 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: had no beef with Shock. 573 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, you don't listen. You vegan anyway, 574 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: You don't eat beef. 575 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, But to each, to each, Shack, I wish you 576 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: nothing but the best, bro a continued success. Keep doing 577 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: your thing on tn T, Keep doing your thing on 578 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: the podcast. Hey, I ain't got no, I ain't got 579 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: no beef with you, Bro, that was just my opinion. 580 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: We were talking. We were talking about it last night 581 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: because of what you said, stick up for Shade, whomever, whomever, Shack, 582 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 2: that's your that's your opinion. 583 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: That's your opinion, Shack. 584 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: I love you. 585 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: You want to go a few rounds, let me know. 586 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: I was just stick it up for him in the chat. 587 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: But we're good. 588 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Shock were good. Hey, you know how to get in 589 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: touch with me. You wanna talk, bro, Hey, you wanna 590 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: talk off off the uh, off the era on there, 591 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: whatever you wanna do. 592 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: Bro. 593 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: We good. 594 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm good. I ain't got no problem with you. I 595 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: never had no problem with you. 596 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: Jack. You wanna fight here? You know where the fire 597 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: me at. 598 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: Well, if you ever got a problem with anybody, nigga'na 599 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: beat as nigga. 600 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man. You worry about Keith Lee, heyna tail. 601 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna eaven food food and knock out your eye. 602 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: And let me tell you something, Keith Lee better stop 603 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: playing with me, all right. He better stop playing me 604 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: because he ain't gonna be doing no food critic. He's 605 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: gonna be eating everything. 606 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Through a straw. This ain't what you're gonna I'll tell 607 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: you not. 608 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, Hey, Hey, a matter of fact, I'm I'm 609 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: gonna fight you for letting him get on. 610 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: There and think he could be anything competitive. So we 611 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: gonna go after I beat his ass. 612 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: Now we're gonna fight too, Hey, I would he let me? 613 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: Hey, jail, listen to. 614 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: Me, Jay, I don't care if it's Bruce Lee, Spike Lee, 615 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: Keith Lee, anybody with the last name that he gonna 616 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: They asked, what matter of fact? 617 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: A leaf and rush hours she Finnah, get it too? 618 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Got me Rick? 619 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: Well, you got me hot. 620 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: When I was on the plane and I saw the thing, 621 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying, what damn? They just okay, that's what we 622 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: are and I don't do mm a. I do boxing. 623 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he used to, that's what them. He got a 624 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 5: calorie flower, ears and all that. 625 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: He hold on. 626 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: Listen, j Just because somebody was m fighter don't mean 627 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: they was good. 628 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you right now. He telling me you 629 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: rocking with him? 630 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 631 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: Good enough? I see the calorie flower. Bro, you got 632 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 5: it my bad? You want another drink? You straight say? 633 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: Because anything you do to me after that, I gotta 634 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 5: put the hammer on them. 635 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I done got too big. 636 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: That's bad. 637 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: That's too. That's the bad. 638 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: That's the bad, cause we're gonna tussle for for the 639 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: simple fact that you even let him say. 640 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: Chad, you let him say oh cho, the word ocean 641 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: even came out of mouth. 642 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: You should have you should have. Hey, you ain't finna 643 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: talk about my co host like that. 644 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I tell o Jo you grab me. You're gonna say, 645 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: ow you you said, oh now. 646 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, tell keep me set that set set that 647 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: ship up, man, set that ship up? Boxing? Do you? 648 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 5: I don't use my. 649 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: Boxing? 650 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Hey that man? Hey, he's his hands updated and yeah, 651 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: he said they're registered in th show. 652 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: My registered to. 653 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: My register. 654 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: Only one of us been on pay per view. I 655 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: can tell you that, hey leave no hell now you hell? 656 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: You all got me fucked up? Man, We're finna fight now. 657 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: Matter fact. 658 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: If I see you, and if I can't you at 659 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: a restaurant in Miami, I'm gonna. 660 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 6: Swing on you. 661 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: Uh yron three with a fifty five eleven the third 662 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: quarter where it's two thy four hundred and fifty first 663 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: career three, breaking the tie with Kyle Korvern for number 664 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: seven all time you talk about the guy his number 665 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: one points top five of the sists up there and 666 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: steals up there in the top ten and three point 667 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: shots at three point field goals made, I mean what 668 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: it was at And it's like, we expect the man 669 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: to play like Lebron, to play until he fifty. They 670 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: still expect him to put up the numbers like he 671 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: did when he was thirty. That's just know how to 672 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: let you know how great he is. When you have 673 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: the same level of expectation for someone, you don't have 674 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: the same level expect Think about it, Swish. We don't 675 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: have the same level of expectations for our parents or 676 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: our grandparents as they start to age, because we know 677 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: physically it's just impossible to do. But because Lebron, we 678 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: still expect him to go out there and sometimes give 679 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: us a virtuoso performance where he gives us fifty or 680 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: he gives us a thirty point triple double. 681 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Or he gives us a forty ten type of a 682 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: ball game. And hebay can do that. But as we 683 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: get older, and I just believe this, as we get older, 684 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: it just gets difficult, even as an athlete to do 685 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: it with the ease that we once did and to 686 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: rip and repeat said act. 687 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 7: For me it's like, honestly, because it's a different one. 688 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 7: You have the guy given the ability to do it, 689 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 7: which he does have, but also the mind to know 690 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 7: how to do it what she also has. Yes, So 691 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 7: then once one starts like because your mind is going 692 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 7: especially for him, his mind gonna stay sharp and it's 693 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 7: gonna keep getting sharper and seeing defenses and seeing stuff 694 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 7: that he's. 695 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 5: Been seeing over the years. 696 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, you ain't gonna 697 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 7: be able to get to that spot like you used 698 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 7: to get to that spot. So then you got to 699 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 7: come up with more counters and everything else, yes, or 700 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 7: rely on your teammates and being able to rely on 701 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 7: my teammates when I got to go out there and 702 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 7: get twenty instead of getting twenty seven or trying to 703 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 7: push it to go get thirty every night, Like that's 704 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 7: what's going to have to be because again, if you 705 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 7: see that spot and I can get to that spot, 706 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 7: that's how you you know what I mean. 707 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 5: Like look at cod and COVID in New Orleans. He 708 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 5: pulled that. I thought somebody kicked him from behind. 709 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: Like that's when you start getting hurt, like you started 710 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 7: to kill like because you're trying to get to somewhere 711 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 7: you think you can physically get to, especially him, as 712 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 7: you need the extra burth, you need the extra birth, sir. 713 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 7: And then yeah, and I don't want to put that 714 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 7: only not going to go with it. But that's just 715 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 7: that's just how it is. And on the body like 716 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 7: he takes obviously takes amazing care of his body's probably 717 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 7: the most He's definitely the most best fit. 718 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 5: Athlete I've ever been around, consistently and even like whoa, whoa, whoa, No, no, no, 719 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 5: you ain't got no chance. Start. I ain't gonna lie 720 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: to you. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't even lie 721 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 5: to you. Oh tru it's not even close. Let me 722 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 5: take this off. Hey dude, you got to do it. 723 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: You can do whatever you gotta do. Hey, man, the. 724 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 4: Most fit athlete is sitting right here. Everybody disrespecting me. 725 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: Now you're telling me Lebron in better shape than me. 726 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: Nobody looked like this beat. 727 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 5: But hey, that ain't. 728 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 3: That. 729 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 5: Ain't no pop touch, that ain't that you need salad? 730 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 4: That ain't about man. Yeah, this is what I do, man, 731 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 4: This is what I do. I'm in the best shape 732 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 4: of my life. 733 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: Whish wish he wish he well buck eighty. 734 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, I'm a jr. 735 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm in better shape than every athlete on earth right 736 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: now at fifty six. Nobody want to see me. Bet 737 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: you're in New York right now? 738 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 5: No, bro, you about forty four? 739 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: Now we're boy. 740 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: Hey, are you in New York right now? He boy 741 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: to Symby, Hey, I put that on every bodega in 742 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: the Bronx. Nobody be son. I'm telling you see nigga 743 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: words of my mother. Nobody's in better shape for me. 744 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow says he bought a tumblr batmobile from the 745 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Dark Knight trilogy. Each were priced at about three million 746 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: dollars and are fully functional but not street legal. Burrow 747 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: told t you Higgins and Jamar Chase doing practice last week. 748 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 2: Have I told you I bought a batmobile. I don't 749 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: get it for like a year, but I bought one. 750 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 5: That's a flex up, that's a fucking. 751 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: Leg I mean, listen, you you collect cars, don't you? 752 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: You love cars? Huh yeah? But they need to be 753 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: street legal. I gotta be able to drive him on. 754 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: The street, you know. 755 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 4: But some something like that be a collector's item, something 756 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: like you know, Jay len O Rick Ross, some of 757 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: those some of those dudes that collect things where it's 758 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 4: not street legal. 759 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 3: You put it up and you save it and lay 760 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: it on down the road. You know it's you paid 761 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 3: three million for it. Think about it. 762 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 4: Maybe ten years, twenty years from now. Who knows what 763 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: it might cost, what it might be worth for that matter, 764 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: What do you want to say? 765 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: Switch three three bill, three bill, three million, three tickets? 766 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 5: Man, Listen, I don't know how much y'all making. Y'all 767 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 5: killing it because I ain't spending I ain't got it. 768 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 7: I ain't got it. 769 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, that's Burrow. That's that's. 770 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: Fifty five a year if football satary prossible number three 771 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: to five off the field, so he probably doing sixty 772 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: a year. 773 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: That's ataxics. That's about thirty twenty eight thirty. Yeah, I 774 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 5: ain't spending that three million on one. Hey. 775 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: If I spent three million, it ain't moving nowhere because 776 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: that's a house. And I ain't talking about no RB. 777 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 4: No. 778 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 7: I'm going down there to Corbo with my boys and 779 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 7: there and go buy a revela nets to them. 780 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: That's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I'm not a batmobile, 781 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 5: and I can't drive it. 782 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: But yes, he must be. He must be a huge 783 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: fan of Batman out. 784 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 5: I don't give it he was Batman. I was not 785 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 5: buying that. 786 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't want nothing. 787 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, I mean we all we have we 788 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: all have a vice, advice and certain things that you got. Well, 789 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: oh me, you know, my chief as ain't got to 790 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: figure out. But I mean, I mean he probably does 791 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: obviously for a reason to spend three men on that. 792 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 4: And I think the value of whatever whatever it is 793 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: he purchased the batmobile Tumblr, whatever the hell it might 794 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 4: be years from now, it's gonna be worth ten fifteen times. 795 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: Would he pay for. 796 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 7: Better be a baby broof card type value or something. 797 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 7: And they give me some crazy his wagner on his 798 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 7: wagner got the chocolate, give. 799 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 5: Me that something three million for a car? 800 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, listen, I can't even talk trash. I 801 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 4: think it was the two thousand and nine to nine season. Hell, 802 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 4: at least have got damn Bugatti for the season for 803 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 4: the year, like a damn idiot food. 804 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 5: What was that payment? 805 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you gotta. 806 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 4: Understand I was I was making so it was this 807 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 4: was money off the field. 808 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: I was making so much off the field I don't care. 809 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 5: It's still what they go to. 810 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 4: The twenty five thousand a month a month now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 811 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: You know how I know how much. 812 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: You know how I remember how much it was. 813 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, people in the chat, if you could 814 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 4: do me a favor, you know how jail. You know 815 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: how people get in trouble with they old tweets, Like 816 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 4: when it comes famous or something, people go search. 817 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 3: At their old tweets. 818 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: We were playing we were playing Philly in the preseason, 819 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 4: and I tweeted in the middle of the game on the. 820 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 3: Sideline after I got hit. I literally literally on the sideline. 821 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: I got hit, came to the sideline and tweeted, I'm okay, y'all. 822 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: The NFL find me twenty five grand for tweeting in 823 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: the middle of the game. And that that's how I 824 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: remember what my Bugatti payments was, because once they took 825 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: it out. 826 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: Of my check, that was the tweet that's out the 827 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 3: next day. Oh my god, they chat ay chat. 828 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: If y'all know how to get on Twitter and go 829 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 4: back to I think I was still playing it two 830 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: thousand and to that, I guarantee the tweet still up. 831 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 5: Go shih alone. 832 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: But bro. 833 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 5: Twenty thousands. Yeah, they find me what I'm tying them 834 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 5: up shoes? Dog. 835 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: Hey, that was funny. 836 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 5: I remember that too. That was. 837 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I gotta be I gotta be making 838 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: some seed bread. I got to be having some seed bridge. 839 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: But I don't really like, like I said, like. 840 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 5: A car like that, man. 841 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: And now you've got to a tie call twenty two 842 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: thousand of all change just. 843 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: Because it's really not the car if the upkeeper you 844 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: know that like anything big as. 845 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: House right stuff like that. 846 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: You know you don't drive every day now, no way 847 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: because of the upkeeper. 848 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 849 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: You gotta have personal You gotta have a or my all. 850 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 5: My boy got he got a car manager. He got 851 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 5: a car manager and. 852 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: All that. 853 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 5: Whenever you want to drive, he pull him up to 854 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 5: the front of the house. And you know what I mean. 855 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 5: He makes sure. 856 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: Jordan, if you do cars, yeah, you gotta have that, 857 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: you know, like a jay Leno, like a sign fail 858 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: wrap cars. 859 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, brodege h Jordan, George hangover. 860 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: Yes, bro, let me tell you got a car selection 861 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: that you better not sleep on. I don't know if 862 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 2: y'all know him that. It's called Rick Hendricks. 863 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh Rick, Yeah, I don't know, well, old school, old school. 864 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm talking about Corvette split windows. I'm talking 865 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: about Yeah, I'm talking about old old stuff. He a 866 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: Chevy guy, so you know all that Chevy stuff like 867 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: over like a Chavell, stuff like that. 868 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 5: My daddy, Richard Petty. 869 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: Richard Petty is a more part got Dodge got so 870 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: we got the cool of the super beds and stuff 871 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: like that that you know they got they made one 872 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: or nine that you go to MEEKM or you go 873 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: to Barreon Jackson. You're talking about two million, three million, 874 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: four million dollars. Yeah, that's what I gotta do. Am, 875 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm coming to an auto show. You're not coming to 876 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: an auto show. 877 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: Hold on, gonna lean me out. I want to go 878 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 5: you you you in the car, Yeah, I. 879 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: Go. 880 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 5: We go down there, bustle. They go down there with 881 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 5: my mother. 882 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 3: We're gonna like Randy Mos straight cash cash. 883 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 5: I want my seat with Ostris in that joint. You 884 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. 885 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: See y'all gonna now you gotta keep You're gonna keep. 886 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 2: You gotta keep the car original. Oh no, I can 887 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: do that unless you gonna get a rest. 888 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 7: No, no, no, we're gonna keep it the original. I 889 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 7: ain't gonna lie. I need a sixty eight Camaro straight up. Okay, 890 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 7: big block, I need that, Okay, I like six days. 891 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 7: My pops got one, he got he restored and all that. 892 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 7: So I need to match up with pops. I need 893 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 7: to go for a ride with my pops. 894 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: For so, I would like to have a chavel. Uh 895 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: A G t O C t O. 896 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 5: Eleanois God take on. 897 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the mostake. That's that's the must the Mustang. Okay, 898 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 2: I never was moe. 899 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 3: I was going to sixty seconds right, yeah, yeah, you 900 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: know what that what? 901 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: That what that Mustang? 902 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 5: That's cold? 903 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: But I do like I do, like I do like 904 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: I do like old cars. I want to get I 905 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: would to get I want to get. I would like 906 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: to get a rest Bard. You know it has that, 907 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: but it's modern. It's a resto. It's old school, but 908 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: it got modern. Okay, So that way I can drive it. 909 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: I could drive it, as opposed to getting something that's 910 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty and you can't drive it, and I 911 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be spitting oil and leave at all. 912 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 7: With the Broncos that they're doing. Now you've seen them 913 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 7: Broncos that they they're doing the vintage Broncos. 914 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, the Jones fired. They got the new they 915 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 5: got the new inside, but still kind of old school tough. 916 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: Santae Samuel saw the clips of us debating him in 917 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: Prime and he responded to us, O, Joe, that's your problem, pimp. 918 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: You're also brainwashed that Shannon Sharp. I'm not worried about 919 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: what everyone proceeds to be true. Like yourself, I stand 920 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: on facts. You have yet to talk about the facts. 921 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: You can easily be manipulated, just like everyone has because 922 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: of marketing. I bet you won't debate me big facts, 923 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp, Safety has a short, Safety has the short middal. 924 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: Nobody's in the deep but me and the receiver. You 925 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: don't know the truth, pimp. You just talking at you, 926 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: uh with no facts. Let's talk or you scared like 927 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: everyone else? 928 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 3: Bro, Hey, I ain't I ain't even know your answers. 929 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: You're like, okay, I like that. I like that, y'all. 930 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 4: Y'all, Hey, listen, we can have a club chayha right, 931 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 4: listen to me, now, stay with me. 932 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 3: You have a club chay dB edition. 933 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 4: A Good Conversation PowerPoint presentation style film up there to 934 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 4: support each of your your opinions and facts. 935 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: That you might have no opinion. He's not time. 936 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 3: Let me let me finish, Baby, let me finish. I'm 937 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 3: just listen. 938 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm giving you the ultimate content right now, 939 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 4: something that's never been done before, a format that's never 940 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: been done before. Two players, actually three, because you were 941 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: a part of a two three plays. You got prime 942 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: in Sonny Samuels and you you one that loves a 943 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 4: breakdown film. He's also one that loves a breakdown film. 944 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 3: Now just picture this. 945 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 2: You talk about you, you think Kat William did a 946 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: whole bunch of numbers, which you think you a son sitting. 947 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 4: Down, you know, going over. Okay, you want to prove it, 948 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 4: prove it, dieing the skoy, don't lie. I'm just I'm 949 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 4: just throwing the id out there because the format has 950 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 4: never been done before. 951 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 2: I've given coach time and myself have given a Dante 952 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: Samuel more tension since he's been retired than he's ever gotten. 953 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: After tonight, I'm done with this. There's nothing to debate, 954 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 2: there's nobody. There's no one gonna say. He's in the 955 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 2: realm of time. He's in the realm of Darrel Reevers. 956 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: He's in the realm of Rod Woodson or a Charles 957 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: Woodson or a Darryl Green or a male Blunt. He's 958 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: not I don't give a damn what he says about 959 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: the film. 960 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: He played. 961 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: He played more game, he played more. Look, bro, you 962 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 2: had an unbelievable career. Congratulations, You're just not Time. You're 963 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 2: not Time, You're not Reevers, You're hold on find out 964 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: did he make an All Decade team? Because Time made 965 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: All decade and he's one of the one hundred greatest 966 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 2: players of all time. 967 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's see his resume. Let's see his body of work. 968 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: I complimented it. 969 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 2: I said Time, don't believe it wastes motion. The team 970 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: step worked well for Sante. I gave him a compliment. 971 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 2: Let's see his resume. So he didn't make All decade. 972 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: Four time Pro bowler, one time All Pro? 973 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: How many times? 974 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 2: How many Pro Bowls to Time make? How many all teams? Yes, oh, 975 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: same number of Super Bowls? But one guy was a 976 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year. One guy as a defensive 977 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: back swung the balance of power. How many dvs can 978 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: say swung the balance of power? He go to one 979 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: team to keep the other team from going. He goes 980 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: to the other team and keep that he from going. 981 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 2: Brou you had an unbelievable career. You went to a 982 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, You an All Pro. You're not Time, and 983 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 2: there's no and that's not a knob. It's okay, it's okay. 984 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 2: But I don't know why you're getting mad at me. 985 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: I tell you what. Find Go find the GM, Go 986 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: find the coach. 987 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 2: Go find a player that says a Sante Samuel is 988 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 2: the equivalent or better than Time. That's all you gotta do. Hell, 989 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 2: your son won't say you better than time, and he 990 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: a junior. Let's be real, man, you're coming, I'm the 991 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: wrong way. 992 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 3: You what you're doing, where you're going? 993 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: I got that. 994 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, Bro, I don't 995 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. I complimented you. I said 996 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 2: you had an outstanding career. I say the tea step 997 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 2: served you well. I just said you weren't Time. 998 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: That's okay. 999 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 2: If somebody says, you know what, Shannon, you had an 1000 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: unbelievable career. Shannon, you went the eight Pro Bowl, your 1001 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: first team All Pro, You're an All decade player, You're 1002 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, but you ain't Gronk. Okay, 1003 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 2: you ain't Travis Kelsey Okay, but you ain't gonna go 1004 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: no other tight end. Let me talking about you. 1005 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: Ain't that if you want to say Gromp, if you 1006 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: want to say Kelsey Shannon, you not that. I ain't 1007 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: finna fight you. But you ain't gonna go no more. 1008 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,439 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna go no more because when I left, 1009 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: every record that a tidy could have I had it, 1010 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: catch it yards, touchdown, most yards of the game. 1011 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 4: Hey, so hold on, I just now that you mentioned 1012 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 4: that when it comes when we factoring the numbers and statistics, 1013 00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 4: does that play any factor in a his case? 1014 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 5: Or it doesn't matter? 1015 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: Career he had he had more pass breakups and fewer interceptions. 1016 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: How many pig sixtion did he have? All I know 1017 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: is when I left the game, I had every record 1018 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 2: that a tight end could possibly have. Ain't nobody had 1019 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: them but me. Now they came along and broke them. 1020 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 2: Gonzo broke them, and Gaze did this, and Gronk and 1021 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: this and that. 1022 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 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Obviously, not here 1065 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 4: on the show. 1066 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm just asking you find the general manager, find the 1067 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 2: head coach, find the receiver. Because he talking about he 1068 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: talking like he was that he by I guarantee you 1069 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 2: when you find somebody that say, he'll top ten a 1070 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: top ten corner back if we go back and study 1071 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 2: history top ten corner. 1072 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: So we got Time, we. 1073 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: Got Reevis, we got Mail Blunt, we got Rod Woodson, 1074 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 2: we got Daryl Green, we got a Nils Williams, we 1075 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 2: got mail Blunt. 1076 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that's seven right there. Where are we? 1077 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 2: Where are we going to put him in the list 1078 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 2: of all time and the history of the inn fail 1079 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: as he cracking the top ten? That's your I mean, 1080 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: that's your homeboy, hen flawed. I want you to tell me. 1081 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 3: You tell me where would you put him? 1082 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: Now? Any where? 1083 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm asking you. I just named seven guys. Which one 1084 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 2: of those seven guys? 1085 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 3: You? 1086 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: Are you putting him in front of? 1087 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 7: Uh? 1088 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 5: You heard, you're listening. 1089 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm asking you. 1090 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about Champ Bailey? You put him in 1091 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: front of Champ? 1092 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 3: You ain't answered the question? 1093 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 1: Are you putting him in front of Champ? 1094 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 5: You heard. 1095 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm listening? 1096 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1097 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 3: Where would you put him? 1098 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: I asked you a. 1099 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 3: Question? Yes, Now I'm asking you are you ranking? 1100 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 2: I just asked this matter simple question. I gave him 1101 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: seven eight names he talking about Well would I rank it? 1102 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: I ask you, I get it. You're gonna probably bump 1103 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: into him. 1104 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 3: Hold on all the time, Hey, hold on, It don't 1105 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 3: matter who I bump into. 1106 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 1: Okay, well you got it in front of I mentioned, 1107 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: but he addressed you. Where are you. 1108 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 2: Asking me the question? He addresses you, so I'm asking you? 1109 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: What are you I already said it? Are you putting? 1110 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 2: He's not in front of Time. He's not in front 1111 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 2: of Reevers. He's not in front of wild Woodson. He's 1112 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: not in front of Charles Woodson. He's not in front 1113 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: of Mail Blunt. He's not in front of Nils Williams. 1114 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 2: He's not in front of a champ Bailey. That's seven. 1115 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 2: That's seven guys. Okay, Now who is he in front of? 1116 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 2: Is he top ten all time? Into history? Did Knight, 1117 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: Trey Lane, a mil Tunnel? 1118 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 5: Is he? 1119 00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 3: Hey? 1120 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: Hey, uh. 1121 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm just asking he got all these facts? Who 1122 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 2: is he in front of? I'll tell you what? Who 1123 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: is he in front of of the list that I 1124 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 2: just named? 1125 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 3: And you you name, you name all lor you name 1126 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 3: all time? Like all time? 1127 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 1: He talking like he all time. Great, that's the problem. 1128 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: Nobody got a problem with him saying he's not good. 1129 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: We're talking about he talking about how did you talk 1130 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: about all time great? The guy that I list, he's 1131 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: at the front of the line. 1132 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 2: Timon Mail Blunt Defensive Player of the Year, Charles Woodson 1133 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, Rod Woodson Defensive Player of 1134 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 2: the Year. There are a lot of guys, but number 1135 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: two one is at the front of the line. He 1136 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 2: talking like he in that group. They're a group. Look, 1137 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 2: we go into a room in the Hall of Fame. Okay, 1138 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: we going to a room. We are all into a room, 1139 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: but there are certain guys at certain tables. We in 1140 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: the room, but we're not at that table. He not 1141 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 2: even in the room. He on the outside. Hey, y'all 1142 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: know I played right, Yeah, but this for big dog, 1143 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 2: keep it a stack. So I want chat y'all tell 1144 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: me of the guys that I listen, who he better than. 1145 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 2: I ain't mitching Pat p I ain't Richard Mitchell Sherman yet. 1146 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: I I just gave y'all a couple of names. I 1147 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: want you to tell me who he better than than 1148 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 2: the list I listed. Who y'all putt him in front 1149 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: of chat? Y'all put him in front of Dion, y'all 1150 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 2: put him in front of Reavers, y'all put him in 1151 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 2: front of Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, Or y'all put him 1152 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 2: in front of Mail Blunt. Who are y'all putting Champ Bailey? 1153 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: Who are y'all putting him in front of Santae Samuel? 1154 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: Who? 1155 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see 1156 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 3: what the chat talking about. 1157 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: No want no, I want you to see what the 1158 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 1: chat talk about. You playing against it? What you're talking about? 1159 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: You played against Jars Woodson, you played against Pat p, 1160 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: you played against Sharan? Who are you putting it in 1161 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: front of? 1162 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 5: I ain't. 1163 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 3: I ain't playing against Sharan, but you know you know 1164 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: I did. I did. 1165 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. 1166 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 4: I did my thing everywhere I went. You hear me, 1167 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 4: it was like it was like Halloween. If I knock 1168 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 4: on the door, I'm coming to get some candy. I'm 1169 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 4: asking you a simple question. Of the guys that were mentioned, 1170 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 4: who is he in front of? And I wouldn't say 1171 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 4: in front of because you you mentioned you know the greats. 1172 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 4: But he has he has the numbers to be in 1173 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:50,919 Speaker 4: the room. 1174 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 3: I know I know that much. 1175 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 4: And you based everything off numbers when you talk about 1176 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 4: let me let me finish before you say anything. When 1177 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 4: you talk about mj in comparison to to Michael Jordan, 1178 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 4: when it comes to the base in any other sport, 1179 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 4: we always bring up the numbers, but all of a sudden, 1180 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 4: the numbers are ignored. 1181 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 2: When it comes now talking about in comparison, and he 1182 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 2: got Pro bowls. Got old, This dude got four Pro Bowls. 1183 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 2: Listen to me, I'm not finished. Okay, but again, now 1184 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 2: we we understand, we we understand. But when we do 1185 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: a comparison based on greatness, you know, we'll tell you 1186 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: what former coach. Your former coach had three Pro Bowls 1187 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: and sixty two picks? You taking dick le boat? 1188 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:34,959 Speaker 1: What about? 1189 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 6: Hey, what you know about? 1190 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: What you know about? You just told me numbers? 1191 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I met that day. 1192 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 3: Listen, That's what everything is based off of. 1193 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: Right Yo, Okay, numbers. 1194 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go all pros, let's go Pro bowls, let's 1195 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: go all decade, let's. 1196 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: Go defensive player of the year. That's part of numbers. Also, 1197 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: just not. 1198 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 3: Picks, okay, Okay, See I look. 1199 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 5: At it like this. 1200 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: If you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns. 1201 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,959 Speaker 5: What have you done? 1202 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I see what you're doing, y'all. 1203 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: I thought the job of a corner is to take 1204 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: away more than you give up. 1205 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 3: That's a great convo. 1206 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who 1207 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: is he better then than the list I named? 1208 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna have guess what, let's have the conversation. Hopefully, 1209 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 2: Lord spare of both of our lives, we're able to 1210 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: have a conversation another ten to fifteen years. Will I'm 1211 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna need to see a gold jacket on 1212 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 2: his back because all the guys that I mentioned I 1213 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: hate Jayalen Ramsey's gonna be coming up, Richard Sherman's gonna 1214 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 2: be coming up. Pat P's gonna be coming up. 1215 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 3: You see what he. 1216 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: Trying to do. 1217 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it's all about marketing, bro. You played on the Patriots, 1218 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: Ty Low played on the Patriots. 1219 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 6: Ty Long got a. 1220 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 2: Red jacket and a gold jacket. So don't do that 1221 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 2: bull job about marketing. If who was on TV more 1222 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 2: than the Patriots? Oh Joe, oh, during during that, during that, 1223 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 2: during that time? 1224 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 5: Who yeah? 1225 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh so nine is marketing. 1226 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 6: Time? 1227 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Ain't no marketing, bro? 1228 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1229 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 2: He marketed himself to know how to parlay that. But 1230 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 2: that man on the field, you better go check them tapes. 1231 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Either you can't or you can't. 1232 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 3: That's a great conversation. Bro, that's a that's a good one. Now, Oh. 1233 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Willie Brown, Mike Haynes. Mike Haynes got nine, like nine 1234 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 2: pro bowls, you better go check. 1235 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 3: That's a great commo let me grab me. 1236 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Bro, Santae, you had a great career. Bro 1237 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: y you good player. You just all I said you 1238 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: weren't time and you had to get personal. I don't know, 1239 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, if you want to 1240 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 2: come on nine cap to get to get your name 1241 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 2: him out there, you could have did that. 1242 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 3: Hey hey, hey, hey listen, that is a great combo. Bro, 1243 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: you hear me, it's a great what's a great combo? 1244 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 5: This one? 1245 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 4: I like this just obviously it's not me as the individual, 1246 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 4: but I'm just saying that's what. 1247 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: And his crime is he better than Stefan Gilboy some point? 1248 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 2: Chat, don't y'all want you to chime in instead of 1249 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 2: just talking about this is a great combo? 1250 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: You say nothing. 1251 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 2: Listening to you, you're telling me this is a nightcap 1252 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 2: thunking O Choe. We don't listen to each other. 1253 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: We go back and forth. 1254 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: I've been chairming it all. I've been chairming it on. 1255 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 3: I'm listening to you. Listen. 1256 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: You see what he listened to me? 1257 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 6: He and dressed. 1258 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 4: He addressed Shannon Sharp. He's sent a long message to 1259 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 4: Shannon Sharp. 1260 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 3: So I'm just listening. 1261 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 2: What did hello? Where did he addressed Shannon Sharp? What 1262 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 2: was Shannon Sharp speaking on? 1263 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 3: What on him? 1264 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 5: Oh? 1265 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Night camp, night camp unking O Choe? 1266 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 3: Right, So it is yours your job to answer back. 1267 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I get it. 1268 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Chat y'all see O Cho don't want to chime in 1269 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 2: heath of Florida. Ocho might bump into it. 1270 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Y'all know me. I'll give a damn whatever what he heard? 1271 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 2: The problem, the thing, whatever Shannon Sharp say on Nightcap, 1272 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp with if you be bumped into, said player, 1273 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp is mad enough to stand on that bro. 1274 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: You not tying, You not Charles Woodson, You not Rod Woodson, 1275 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 2: You not Darrell Reevers, You not Mail Blood, You not 1276 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Mike Haynes, you not Dale Green, you not. 1277 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Facts. Now of the ten guys that I named, mind 1278 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the coach, find the receiver that says Sante Samuel is 1279 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: better than any of those guys. 1280 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 3: See the way, the way, the way you make it sound. 1281 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 3: Oh so you you being mean? 1282 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh yo? 1283 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 3: And you and you you see you? Yeah, how you 1284 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: make it sound. You make it sound like like Buddy 1285 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 3: was trash or something. 1286 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: I didn't say he was trying the way the way. 1287 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,479 Speaker 4: I'm just saying the way you talking like you acting 1288 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 4: like we just sitting here talking about some I'm just 1289 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 4: some old bum we I'm just I'm just curious. 1290 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,439 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, who could I say? 1291 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1292 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I played the game. 1293 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 6: Listen. 1294 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 3: I played to me right, hold on me, stay with me, 1295 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,479 Speaker 3: stay with me, stay with me real quick. 1296 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 4: I played the game on the other side of the ball, 1297 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 4: So I know I played against Prime, I played against 1298 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 4: zunt I have an understanding of both and how good 1299 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 4: they were, what they hold on great as Prime was 1300 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 4: and how good Zon was. So it's hard for me 1301 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 4: to sit here and say, you know the way you're doing. 1302 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: When I saw with my own eyes, I understand. 1303 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 3: How great Prime is. But then I know what that 1304 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 3: young boy was doing as well. 1305 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: When he was playing. All I said, I said he 1306 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 1: was good. 1307 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I said he was a very good player, had an 1308 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 2: unbelievable career. He used the technique. He used the technique 1309 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 2: that Time doesn't approve of two things can be true, Yes, sir, Okay, 1310 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: some guys like to play press and open the gate. 1311 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 2: Some guys like the press and put hands. Whatever technique 1312 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 2: works for you. But he was talking as if he 1313 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: was the equivalent because he posted his stats in Time Stats, saying, 1314 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 2: look at our stats. So he's posting those stats as 1315 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 2: if he's the equivalent, and I said he's not. I 1316 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 2: didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said he 1317 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 2: went the Pro Bowls. I think he was an all pro. 1318 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 2: I know he won Super Bowls in New England. That's 1319 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 2: what I said, right. He took offense that I didn't 1320 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 2: co sign him. I don't need no marketing. I don't 1321 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 2: need to co sign I think everybody's known. I didn't 1322 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to critique Time when he played when 1323 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 2: he went back for those two years, because he was 1324 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay, 1325 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 2: that's fine, But I've never had a problem critiquing any player. 1326 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 2: I critique Tom Brady, hating Manny. You name a player, 1327 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Ray Lewis receivers t O Randy. I've never had a 1328 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 2: problem critiquing because I'm basing it on my knock, intimate 1329 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: knowledge of the game and film study. When I was 1330 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 2: at CBS. I would watch film. How many times when 1331 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: I was at CBS or Fox? When you ever heard 1332 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 2: a guy called tell about shut shop? Don't know what 1333 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 2: the hell he talking about? 1334 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 3: No, that it ain't happen. 1335 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: See what y'all try to do? Well, you're doing this. 1336 01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 1: That's not what I said. 1337 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 2: No, No, I never said I've never seen the difference 1338 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: is skip tried to say. I said I was better 1339 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 2: than Tom Brady. I said Tom Brady wasn't playing well. 1340 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Why would I, as a tight end, compare myself to 1341 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 2: a quarterback? 1342 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 3: Okay, right, right right, I would need to. 1343 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Compare myself to Gronk, to Kelsey or a tight end. 1344 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 2: That's the only way you can get an equivalent. 1345 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I said. I said, yeah, Asante had a. 1346 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 2: Great career, Pro Bowl, Super bowls, now god like, I said, 1347 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: you want to say, shaitnon, you ain't trast, you ain't Gromp. 1348 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, you got me, right, you got me. 1349 01:06:52,400 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm just confused. But look, bro, you I 1350 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: gave Helmedy. 1351 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: I gave you fifteen minutes of fame, fame that you 1352 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: never would have got had you not mentioned me or time. 1353 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Enjoy it. 1354 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: Now go back to your solitary life. Nobody's gonna win. 1355 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Were the last I'll tell you, what about Joe? When 1356 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 2: were the last time prior to last night? When was 1357 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 2: the last time you heard somebody? Mitchell Sante Samuel? 1358 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Take your time. I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna get 1359 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: me some water. Take you time, chat, y'all, keep all. 1360 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Your interested Hey, anyway, chat, We're back. His love set, 1361 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 3: his love set. Other than that, it's a great conversation. 1362 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I like it. 1363 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 3: I like the dialogue. I like the back and forth. 1364 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 4: I like players also, where we always talk about having 1365 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 4: a belief, having not only a belief in what you 1366 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 4: can do and what you've already done, and bring it 1367 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 4: to the forefront, bring it to the forefront, and supporting 1368 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 4: what it is you've done in comparison to someone else. 1369 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Who is also great. 1370 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 3: And that's okay. 1371 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 4: Now a lot of people won't see it that way 1372 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 4: as you can see it, including one thing I've. 1373 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Always do see is. 1374 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 4: If you were bad at what you do. Then I 1375 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 4: will always come out and say that. But I played 1376 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 4: against both, and I understand how good both were. I 1377 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 4: understand how great Prime was, obviously catching him on the 1378 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 4: tail end of his career, and obviously playing against Sante 1379 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 4: doing this Prime and understanding how good he was, how 1380 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 4: much of a student of the game he was, And 1381 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 4: what I'm not going to do is diminish what I 1382 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,759 Speaker 4: was able to see for years while I was playing 1383 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 4: and understanding watching film here and understand how good he 1384 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 4: was and how savvy he was technically, you know. 1385 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 3: So it's different coming from. 1386 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 4: Someone to actually played on the opposite side and understand 1387 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,879 Speaker 4: how good he was, you know, so it's hard. 1388 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 3: To see it to say, oh, he'd not been whoa, whoa, whoa. 1389 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 3: I had to go against this. I had to go 1390 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 3: against that for years. 1391 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,560 Speaker 1: So it's different. It's different, you know. 1392 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 4: It's especially and a lot of a lot of people 1393 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 4: in the chat of some of the comments on Twitter, 1394 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 4: on X whatever it may be, their feelings are always 1395 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 4: different as well, because it's based off who you know 1396 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 4: and what they've done. 1397 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 3: Hey, that was good at A I just. 1398 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Asked you a simple question, which one proud of last 1399 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 2: night and today. When was the last time you heard 1400 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 2: somebody mention a Sante Samuel. 1401 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know. I be on Nightcap every time 1402 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: I time they break a record, who record they see it? There? 1403 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: The most one hundred and fifty yard games, the more lost. 1404 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: This the most that every Sunday in the NFL season 1405 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: on the tight end does something whose name is up 1406 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: there when they have them names. He just passed this 1407 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: one who name is also up there? 1408 01:09:49,280 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh, Joe Ocho, don't worry about o Jo. Hey, Chad 1409 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: all I try to do I try to, you know, 1410 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 2: try to go back and forth. But Ohoe, you know, 1411 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 2: o Cho was like. 1412 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: Hey, and we did. 1413 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 4: We did go back and forth. That was That was 1414 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 4: a good one though, Now no you you you laughing. 1415 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm for real that that was a good one. 1416 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 4: I don't that was a That was a good one.