WEBVTT - How The Iditarod Works

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<v Speaker 1>thought we'd thanked him it. If we didn't, I want

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<v Speaker 1>right here above our heads proudly. It looms intimidating lee

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<v Speaker 1>over our heads. Are you intimidated by it? Now? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little under the weather, though, can you tell? I can? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because you said so. But now that now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening for it, I can hear it sort of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you gotta stick a butter and each Nazia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I wish do you you can do that?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing okay, I'm not under the weather. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I am nice warm here in Atlanta. It's like seventy

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<v Speaker 1>degrees outside here and like March one. Um. Kind of well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say the opposite, but not necessarily these

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<v Speaker 1>days things to climate change. Um in Alaska, Leo DiCaprio,

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<v Speaker 1>where there, I thought that was a great speech, was fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it. Thin guy should be an actor. Uh in

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<v Speaker 1>Alaska where they're about to do the Ida or they're

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<v Speaker 1>about to run it. As a matter back, when this

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<v Speaker 1>comes out, it will have started a couple of days before, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be like right smack dab in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of what's called the last great race on Earth, the

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<v Speaker 1>Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race, also known as just the

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<v Speaker 1>Iddarad or the Iddarade trail Sled dog Race. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>say dog sled? No, you said it, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>put the emphasist on the weird words or the I

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<v Speaker 1>did rode trail sled dog race exactly. We could do

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<v Speaker 1>this several more times we could. So let's get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna we're probably both gonna say poopy things about

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<v Speaker 1>dog racing, aren't we Probably. Yeah, I'm just waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>people in Alaska to be mad at me. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be years before they get their hands on this episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably so, because you have to fly it out, you

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<v Speaker 1>drop it in from town to town, and everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>to get their turn listening to it. Yeah. Thing I

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<v Speaker 1>learned about people from Alaska is the reason they live

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<v Speaker 1>in Alaska is because they don't like being told what

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<v Speaker 1>to do by anybody. No, they don't. They like getting

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<v Speaker 1>pushed around. No, so they moved to Alaska, where you

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<v Speaker 1>can do as you please. So yeah, we'll see where

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<v Speaker 1>this one goes. So the idea Rode, for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who don't know, is actually a a grueling endurance

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<v Speaker 1>race across some of the coldest parts of the planet miles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a long way. And it's not like people are

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<v Speaker 1>running or snowshoeing or hang gliding. They are on a

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<v Speaker 1>little sled on skis. You could also call it a

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<v Speaker 1>mini sligh if you wanted to. And this these mini

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<v Speaker 1>slaves are pulled by teams of dogs. And that's the race.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dog sled race, that's right. Dog sled race

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<v Speaker 1>held every year since nineteen seventy three. And uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no like set a number of participants that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>areas from year to year, depending on how many people

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<v Speaker 1>want to take part. And uh, like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>rough terrain, it's cold, brutal conditions could be anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>it could go down to fifty below zero. That's insane,

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<v Speaker 1>with harsh winds and blinding snow. Snowblinds. Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>it's called. That's what azz he called it. Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the song snowblind? Yeah? I think so great black.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was talking about snow though, probably not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Oh, is he talking about cocaine?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he may have been. I never thought about that, so, uh, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you said like up to fifty below I saw sixty

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<v Speaker 1>below fahrenheight. Sixty below zero fahret heeight, that's cold. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also kept running across people saying like negative forty

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<v Speaker 1>degrees fahrenheight. And I remember we said that once when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about seam o Hia, the Finnish sniper.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the baddest dude ever, the White Ghosters

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<v Speaker 1>something something like that, the White Death, White Death. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was it. Man, that guy, it's crazy anyway. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we mentioned that he was out sniping people in

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<v Speaker 1>in temperatures as cold as negative forty degrees fahrenheight, And

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<v Speaker 1>ever since then people wrote in and said, dude, negative

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<v Speaker 1>forty degrees is the same, and Celsius and fahrenheight it's

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<v Speaker 1>where they converge. And ever since then, I've always noticed

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<v Speaker 1>there's very few people who realize that, Yeah, well I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot negative forty degrees. You don't have to say fahrenheher

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<v Speaker 1>or celsius is amazing. The magic temperatures are so cold,

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<v Speaker 1>none gives a crap, right exactly. Uh So the route

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<v Speaker 1>for the iditarod Um, there are a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>routes depending on what year it is. Uh, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be an even year, so that means they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the northern route last year, and every odd year

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<v Speaker 1>they have a southern route. And uh they are basically

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<v Speaker 1>the same route except for three hundred miles in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle where it's different. Yeah, between a fear and Uncle elite,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I think so, um, and it either shoots

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<v Speaker 1>up or dips down depending but other than that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact route. Yeah, there are twenty six checkpoints

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<v Speaker 1>along the way on the northern route and then twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven on the southern route because you need just that

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<v Speaker 1>one extra by the southern route. I think, didn't it

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<v Speaker 1>say the southern rount is a little harder? Uh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the general thought is in northern trail is

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<v Speaker 1>a little easier, but like I think there's a difference

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<v Speaker 1>in terrain. Typically that makes sense, and you would think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a thousand mile plus trek across snow in

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<v Speaker 1>negative fifties sixty degree fahrenheight weather. Um, it's gonna take forever, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And as a matter of fact, the first one in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three did take I think the last place

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<v Speaker 1>finisher more than thirty days to complete the race. Nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing these things in like eight and change. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the record the first I did a ROD was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty days and change for the winner for the winner,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the record is a guy named John Baker

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<v Speaker 1>In finished it. So that would be a southern route

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<v Speaker 1>even even more difficult, uh, In eight days eighteen hours,

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<v Speaker 1>forty six minutes and thirty nine seconds. I saw more

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<v Speaker 1>recently a guy named Dallas Cev who's part of like

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<v Speaker 1>An I did a rod Family UM in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen. He broke that record, but a few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>eight days, thirteen hours, four minutes in nineteen seconds. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the baker was a guy No and baker, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess top all another guy named Martin Bousser, who um

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<v Speaker 1>he uh, he had the record for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it went from like what did you say,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty days for the winner in nineteen seventy three and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like just over a week, and within that

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<v Speaker 1>week is a forced twenty four hour furlough, So technically

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<v Speaker 1>they might be able to do it in a week

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<v Speaker 1>if they really tried. Yeah, twenty four hours plus two

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<v Speaker 1>eight hour breaks. So yeah, I bet if it was

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<v Speaker 1>up to the mushers, they would press on yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>aside from those enforced breaks, they do typically press on UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll stop every once in a while, like feed the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs or something like that, but for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>they're not sleeping. They're staying awake and they're just pushing forward,

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<v Speaker 1>so they get sleep deprivation. They start to hallucinate. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this really great New Yorker article called the

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<v Speaker 1>White Wall, where, um, the light from your head lamp

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<v Speaker 1>because you're traveling at night. Sure most of the time, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the light from your head lamp is reflecting off of

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<v Speaker 1>the fur around your parka, and it creates this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of white screen in your field of vision, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like right for hallucinations. She just started to go a

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<v Speaker 1>little batty. Yeah, for sure, I saw where this one

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<v Speaker 1>lady who uh was a musher said that she slept

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<v Speaker 1>while she was Oh yeah, that's what she said. She

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<v Speaker 1>just taught herself to kind of hang on and off,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe she just thought she was sleeping. Yeah, that's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's freaking out on the snowblind, so

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<v Speaker 1>we should mention mush. Apparently no one says mush anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh as far as like the lingo. Yeah, now they

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<v Speaker 1>say like hiker, all right, or let's go, But mush

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<v Speaker 1>originally meant like start going. Yeah, it's a fridge from

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<v Speaker 1>Marcia or marsh, yes, marsh and uh yeah, they still

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<v Speaker 1>call them mushers. It's funny name. But apparently the mushers

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<v Speaker 1>don't use the word mush when they're as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like their command exactly. Yeah, that makes sense. So you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the history of this sport, this

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<v Speaker 1>endurance sport, because the there's really no way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>The dogs are like peak before, they're like Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 1>of of of dogs, all of them. But let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of sled dogs, about the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dogs that are used for sled dogs. Like most people,

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<v Speaker 1>including me, assume that if you were um riding around

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<v Speaker 1>the snow on a sled being pulled by dogs, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably being pulled by Siberian huskies or Alaska mala mutes

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a samoyad. Yes, perhaps, Thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>the one to say it out loud. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest one just looking at it to pronounce. Would you say?

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<v Speaker 1>Some woyd Samoyd. I watched the dog Show the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I love that they had who won? Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know? I'd actually well, that's how old I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I fell asleep before the best in show. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Yeah, this very fun as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed yourself watching it. I want to go one year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be cool. All that it is crazy, crazy partying.

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<v Speaker 1>No I think it'd probably be a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to go see and cheer for dogs, although I'm against

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<v Speaker 1>dog breeding in general, so I probably shouldn't even go. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but the the some what is you say, the samoiede

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<v Speaker 1>and the Alaskan malamute and the Siberian husky. They are

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<v Speaker 1>all a k C registered breeds. They're recognized by the

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<v Speaker 1>American Kennel Club, and they used to pull sleds, especially

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<v Speaker 1>Siberian Huskies. There's a guy named um Leonard uh oh man.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember his name, Cippola, I believe it's what

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<v Speaker 1>his name was, and he was the guy who first

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<v Speaker 1>started racing Siberian Huskies in Alaska on sleds. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Alaska today, you're going to find something

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<v Speaker 1>called an Alaskan husky is typically the kind of dog

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna encounter as a sled dog. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a mixed breed. It's a mutt breed UM

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<v Speaker 1>and they have been bred to just basically be mentally tough,

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<v Speaker 1>physically sturdy, UM not too big but also not too small.

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<v Speaker 1>The thick coat and um yes, and uh, not just quickness,

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<v Speaker 1>but a strong inbred desire to run and pull stuff

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<v Speaker 1>while they're running. Yeah, I saw this. One guy called it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they have a wanderlust, like there there's always

0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.840
<v Speaker 1>some place else they'd rather be, Like they want to

0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.559
<v Speaker 1>go go go over there, which is why. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's when you're taking a break or something with your

0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.800
<v Speaker 1>dogs on the iditar rod, you have to chain them

0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.960
<v Speaker 1>down whereas they're like see you. And they also microchip

0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.640
<v Speaker 1>them as well. I had a friend who had a

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<v Speaker 1>husky and um, they are not easy. And this husky

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<v Speaker 1>would get out and see you later. Yeah, for like

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<v Speaker 1>two days. Yeah, and he always came back, but he

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<v Speaker 1>came back wearing like a Hawaiian shure. Yeah. That would

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<v Speaker 1>freak if my dog got out, because my dogs are

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<v Speaker 1>big dummies. They wouldn't like that, wouldn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Was this a pretty smart dog? Yeah? I

0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.440
<v Speaker 1>think that's the Alaska husky is pretty smart generally, So

0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.240
<v Speaker 1>it was an Alaska husky, I think so. Yeah. So

0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Alaska huskies are descended, um more from the dogs called

0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Inuit dogs and Eskimo dogs, and they are basically in

0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.560
<v Speaker 1>didigenous dogs to Alaska. They came over with the first

0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.880
<v Speaker 1>humans who crossed the Bearing Land bridge, right, the dogs

0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.280
<v Speaker 1>pulled them across that bridge, probably, oh they did. So.

0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw that they didn't hook dogs up the sleds

0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.880
<v Speaker 1>until like the them this past millennia or the one

0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.200
<v Speaker 1>we're in now that was like a D eight hundred

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.200
<v Speaker 1>or maybe twelve hundred when they were using sleds. That's

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what I saw, um, but I also saw that it

0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.560
<v Speaker 1>goes back to time immemorial. Who knows. What I did

0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.080
<v Speaker 1>see though, is that these dogs, these Inuit dogs and

0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the Eskimo dogs were um definitely hauling stuff like whale

0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>carcasses are huge parts of whale carcasses to be butchered

0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.760
<v Speaker 1>back in town. Um, they were hunting dogs, their companions,

0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>they were protector dogs. They were just total um butt

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>kicking animals that could stand temperatures well into the negative

0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.760
<v Speaker 1>twenties or aties or forties degree parentheights. Because that double coat, yes,

0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.600
<v Speaker 1>so the outer coade I think deflects the snow and

0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>then they have the inner coat that has waterproof and

0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.520
<v Speaker 1>insulates them. So when you see those dogs laying out

0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.520
<v Speaker 1>in the snow, uh, they're not cold, right, you know,

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think, oh poor dog laying in the snow. I

0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.320
<v Speaker 1>mean there can be problems, as we talked about with

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the Iddarod when that one dog was buried. Um, they

0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.480
<v Speaker 1>can also get frost bit. They can get frostbite though

0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.880
<v Speaker 1>depending But yeah, for the most part, which I don't understand. Man,

0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. I was like, man, these checkpoints, they have

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<v Speaker 1>like tents at the checkpoints. How how big are the tents?

0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if more than one team has to

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<v Speaker 1>put their dogs in the tents? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not in the tent. No, they sleep, they put down,

0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they put down. Hey, they might have a bale of

0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.400
<v Speaker 1>hay that the musher has, um and the dogs sleep

0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.040
<v Speaker 1>on the hay in the snow and they cover their

0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.720
<v Speaker 1>nose with their tails they do, which is adorable. And

0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.200
<v Speaker 1>at kennels for these dogs, some of them they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>like plastic barrels cut in half with a little hole

0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for the dog to get in and out of when

0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.600
<v Speaker 1>weather is really bad. But for the most part, yeah,

0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.000
<v Speaker 1>especially if it's not snowing or windy. Uh, a Inuit

0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.600
<v Speaker 1>dog or Alaska husky can just sleep outside on the

0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>snow exactly. They used to deliver the mail in Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>in the late eighteen hundreds to early nineteen hundreds. That

0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was exclusively how the mail was delivered until the airplane

0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.760
<v Speaker 1>became the primary mode of mail delivery. Uh. And the

0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.600
<v Speaker 1>last mail dog in Alaska retired in nineteen sixty three,

0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so not too long ago. Pretty impressive, Yeah, right before hippies. Yeah,

0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the dog didn't didn't live to see hippies. The police

0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.120
<v Speaker 1>used them uh in the in the gold rush of

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<v Speaker 1>the late eighteen hundreds, and of course Alaska aside. They

0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>have long been used in Arctic and Antarctic expeditions. Yeah.

0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.400
<v Speaker 1>There was actually a very famous antarctic expedition in Japan

0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:06.400
<v Speaker 1>where I think in the fifties. Yeah. Uh, an antarctic

0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:11.120
<v Speaker 1>expedition had to be abandoned and the Japanese researchers had

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:16.399
<v Speaker 1>to be evact by helicopter and they were like sorry, dogs,

0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.919
<v Speaker 1>well somebody will be back in a few days. We're

0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna change you up here. Here's some food, good luck,

0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.360
<v Speaker 1>fight over it. A year later, a research team made

0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.199
<v Speaker 1>it back to that outpost and they found two of

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the dogs were still alive, uh, Taro and Jero, and

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.199
<v Speaker 1>they were brothers, which makes it even more awesome, and

0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.719
<v Speaker 1>they became national heroes back in Japan. Um, And I

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, yeah, of course they ate the other dogs.

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I've read an article that said that there were no

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<v Speaker 1>signs of cannibalism, that they just like like hunted penguins

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and seals and stuff like that and managed to survive.

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Was it that the basis of the Paul Walker Walker

0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:02.439
<v Speaker 1>movie Paul Walker, The Fast and the Furious, same guy, Uh, no,

0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:07.119
<v Speaker 1>longer with us too? No? That car wreck? Yeah? Was

0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he a passenger? He was the passenger in that car wreck,

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he? I think he drove. He did have a passenger.

0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.199
<v Speaker 1>What was it called eight below right? Yeah, which is

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.120
<v Speaker 1>he's not Japanese. No, but he's he It was supposedly him.

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it must have been based on that or something.

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the movie. I think they thought an

0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.360
<v Speaker 1>updated version would fair better. They're like, who does everyone

0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like Paul Walker? Exactly? They were used as war dogs

0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in World War One and World War Two, hauling equipment,

0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue. Helps set up the Alaska telegraph line

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>around World War One. Um, and they also almost invaded

0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Norway from uh the eastern coast of Canada. Yeah. Yeah.

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.439
<v Speaker 1>They were attached to like the fifteenth Mountaineering regiment of

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the United States Army. I think it would have been

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 1>army for sure. And um, we didn't invade Norway, but

0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have we These dogs would have been there with us yea.

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.360
<v Speaker 1>And by us, I mean specifically you and me, Chuck,

0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.439
<v Speaker 1>because we were. Uh so you said that they are

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.639
<v Speaker 1>bred for there not only endurance, but for their for

0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>their speed. And they actually have their feet have adapted

0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to take on this train because a good sletter is

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>uh is that a sletter? Sure? Alright? Good letters has

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.880
<v Speaker 1>wide flat feet. But they also have toes that are

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>dense and together. You don't alto explayed toes because stuff

0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>can get in between them. So basically they have like

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 1>they they have feet like hammers. It sounds like hammer

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 1>toes basically, but hammer feet. Yeah. And the gender doesn't matter.

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh Lady, little lady dogs and little boy dogs are

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>just as good. Uh So gender isn't a big deal. Um.

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>They're also big at trail breaking, right, So like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go out and see if the ice

0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:02.879
<v Speaker 1>is thicken up to cross, take a team of sled dogs.

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>And they actually do this in Denali National Park. Yeah,

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and they do it ahead of the Iditarod. They send

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>out teams to break the trails and make sure it's

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>as safe as it can be. And those trails, chuck

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 1>were used for a very long time and still were,

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.120
<v Speaker 1>but then they started in like the six sixties, say

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe early seventies, to be blazed more by by snowmobiles.

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And this guy named Joe Ruddington Sr. Was really sad

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to see the dog sled, the traditional um sled, being

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 1>replaced by the snowmobile man made machines. And he said,

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we need to preserve this heritage. I'm

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 1>going to start a race in the in the fashion

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of some of these old ones. There was this all

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Alaska Sweepsteaks that was much shorter. But like in the

0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 1>ninet hundreds, people were using sled dogs a lot and

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.439
<v Speaker 1>actually using them, but then they fell out of fashion.

0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>So this guy, Joe Ruddington Sr. Tried to preserve it

0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.320
<v Speaker 1>by starting this race. Yeah the Dorothy Page or they

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 1>together or were they just uh they were they were

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 1>kindred spirits. Okay, gotcha. So the first one they organized

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>was a fifty mile race, right yeah, and like the

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sixties and not like the mile journey that has grown

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 1>into today. They really stepped it up yeah, and the sprints,

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>they actually have sprint races. They have all different races.

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.439
<v Speaker 1>A sprint is a thirty mile sprint, like just go

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 1>flat out for thirty miles. Thirty miles. That's insane, It

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is so um there's this very there's this widely um

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>held misconception that I did a rod was created to

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:44.400
<v Speaker 1>commemorate this, um this very famous run that happened in right, Yeah,

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 1>the dip theory outbreak. They ran out of well, they

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 1>needed to get medicine and they used dogs to get

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 1>medicine to the farthest reaches of Alaska. And like Gnome,

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I think there's about to be a dip theory outbreak.

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:58.919
<v Speaker 1>So that has nothing to do with it, because that

0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>is all over the internet, including on the IDDA out side. No,

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.000
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the Idea out side, it says

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>specifically what Joe Reddington's aim was. Yeah, um no, I

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>know I saw that everywhere, including on our own How

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works articles that people believe that they meant to

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>con rememorate it. And yes, this this incredibly courageous emergency

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>rescue operation of bringing vaccine um well at least antiets,

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think it is what it was to the

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>children of Nome before this outbreak killed them all. Um,

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it captured the world's imagination. UM, and it did follow

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the same route half of it, but the first half

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>was delivered by train and UM, the Idda trail was

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>starting to fall out of use by the time Joe

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Reddington and Dorothea Page came along and wanted to preserve it.

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's more coincidence than anything that they didn't They

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't intentionally create the idea road to commemorate the dip

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>theory run from Well, if you go to New York

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Central Park around sixty s it um on the east side,

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you can see a statue of Balto, the dog who

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>was the lead dog on that serum run. So they said,

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna commemorate this in New York, which I don't

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>get it londs like it would be in Alaska. Well,

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the reason why they did it there was because, um,

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>like the whole country was paying attention, much of the

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>world was paying attention to this this little tiny this

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>little tiny town up in Alaska was in real trouble.

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.479
<v Speaker 1>And this doctor put all these telegraphs out like asking

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 1>for somebody to bring them something. And the closest stuff

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.439
<v Speaker 1>was in Anchorage, and since this trek took like five days,

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>people were covering it for the for the newspapers, and

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>people were reading about it all over the country. They

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>got so jazzed up that New York was like, we're

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna wreck the Statue of Balto. But that didn't explain

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>why New York they just got that excited. Yeah, that's

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the reason. That's exactly why. Uh So in the early

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties. Well, let's let's take a break, actually, and

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk about the nineties. Yea, So in the

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>early nineties, as I was saying, before they started there,

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>there's a ceremonial kickoff they do. Now, uh that's not

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a part of the actual race, so people can come

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>out and cheer them on. Yeah, so they have a

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>big party and people line the streets and they get

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 1>all the Apparently it's a crazy scene because you know,

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and hundreds of dogs, and these dogs, I will say,

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll get to the the downside, which is

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty grotesque if you ask me. But these dogs want

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to work, and they want to they want to pull

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the sled. Um, I don't know if they want to

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.679
<v Speaker 1>pull a eleven hundred miles. But they are sled dogs.

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>And so when you get these highly energetic uh, well,

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>they're all kinds of breeds, but mostly the Alaska husky

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>is what they prefer. Uh, mushers prefer. Um. It's a

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>crazy scene because they're not like they're they're not your

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 1>average lapdog. They're excited and they howl. They have very

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 1>shrill howls. A lot of them do, yeah, unless they

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>had their voice box removed by their musher, which is

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing it can be. Um. So they kick off

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>an Anchorage and the reason why it's just a ceremonial

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>kickoffs because there's usually not enough snow these days in

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Anchorage again climate change. So they used to go up

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>to Vascilla or was Silla? I don't know how they

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>pronounce it up there? Is it was Silla. Yeah, that's

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Palins, I know, I don't remember back then. Um

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh, then they stopped getting enough reliable snow there,

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>so they had to move it up even further to

0:25:54.080 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Willow Willow Willow Vilva, phil of Um is two and

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a half hours north of Anchorage. They always have snow there,

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that's their motto, right, So they have the ceremonial parade

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of the dogs the day before, and then the next

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>day is when they start, and like the race officially starts. Yeah,

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and it costs a lot of money to uh to

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>put on the race and and it's not cheap to

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be a musher with a sled team. I mean you

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>can put as much as like twenty grand into your

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>sled team. Uh and the training and you know, it

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>takes a long time. So some of these mushers have

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>corporate sponsors. Uh you can make money to like, um,

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>owning a kennel and leasing dogs out to other I

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>did aod contestants. Yeah, um, yeah, but yeah, I think

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>corporate sponsorships definitely helped quite a bit. Well. A lot

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>of corporations have stepped away from it though in recent

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>years as far as sponsoring the race, um, because of

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>all the controversy surrounding it, which we will still get to. Uh,

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be eighteen. You can't just be some uh

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>dumb fourteen year old or even a seventeen year old,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>not even seventeen and a half. You gotta be eight

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>team and you have to have completed uh some other

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>qualifying races and place. I mean, we can get specific

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>if you want uh a Yukon Quest International Sled Dog

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>Race or two approved races, and you have to have

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>at least five miles under your belt on those races

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and have finished in the top or it says here

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>mind bending lee. Another way to qualify for an idd

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>A rod race is to have been in a previous

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I did a rod race, which I guess. Yeah, I

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think that. What's you. I guess once you're in

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>your first one, then you're qualified. But are you sure?

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like if you've won, then you get like

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime No. I don't think exemption. That's what golfers do,

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>is right, well, some of them, some of the p

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>g A events. If you win that event, then you're

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>automatically and for the rest of your life. Maybe not

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life, but I think for like

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the next five years or it depends on the Then

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you get automatically qualified. That makes sense, all right, So

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>what's uh? What's what does a sled team look like?

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>They look pretty good. You got your musher, that's the

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>guy standing on back telling the dogs what to do. Yes,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that's right, um, I mean the gender neutral guy. Um.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you have a team of dogs and depending

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on what you're doing UM with the idea in particular,

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to start I think with sixteen dogs, right,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and you have to finish with twelve. No, twelve to sixteen,

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and they have to finish with ten. So you can

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>have up to six dogs die along the way and

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>not get disqualified from the idea. Rod Technically, um and

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in the lead are the very appropriate named lead dogs.

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>These are your smartest, fastest dogs. I was reading about

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>these dogs. These dogs are amazing dogs, so smart that

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>they will even disobey their owner if they're like, dude,

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a cliff. Don't tell me too much. I know

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't see because you're snow blind in the Aussie fashion,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>So just leave it to me to ignore your a

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>man and steer us to the left. And so when

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that lead dog starts to go, the dogs immediately behind them,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the point dogs or the what are they called the

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>swing dogs? They also are called point too. I think

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones who actually get the rest of the

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>team to turn with them. Yeah, and uh, they call

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>them swings because you know you have to. You can't

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>cut it short. You gotta swing wide around obstacles and

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>These dogs are smart enough to know to do that.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>So you've got those are the first four dogs you have.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Are the lead dogs and the swing or point dogs

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>behind them. You're gonna have a couple of pairs of

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what are called team dogs. These dogs are just really

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>good at pulling, working well with others. Yeah, they're like

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the role player on the NBA bench. Yeah, they're the

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>solid basketball players, the Draymond Greens. But sure, but they're

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to be starting an All Star game. No,

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but they they they may have enough spunking spirit. You

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>get the rest of the team going, um, yeah, the

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Draymond Greens. And then at the back, right in front

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of the sled are the wheels, the wheelers. Yes, and

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they are the strongest of the bunch, supposedly, And uh,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>those are the dogs. But the dogs are attached to

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the sled or else you're in big trouble. You have

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of really fast dogs running together and a

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>mushard who's left behind. How funny would that be? It

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>would be funny to everybody else, but the mush rights

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and um, the sled connects to the dogs through the

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>main line or the toe line right or the gang line.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the other name for it. And this

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>is basically just a line that goes from the sled

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>all the way up to the lead dogs, and all

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the dogs are connected to this thing. That's right. Then

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the dogs are connect to the lead line and they

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>pull on that toe line via tug lines that are

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>connected to their harnesses. That's right. Uh. And the dog

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>is wearing a color and a harness. Um, they don't. Actually,

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not like they don't have reins. Like a horse,

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>They go on command. Um. I have seen like a whip.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>They stopped us whips, but they used to fairly recently,

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>got you. Yeah, they go mushus no mush no more

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>mush no more whips. Things are changing big time as

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact. Um. And then you have the

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So the dog's collars can is connected by a collar line,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I think right. So, Uh, you have to condition these dogs.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't come out of the uh the

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>womb ready to run a thousand miles. They want to. Yeah,

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 1>they've got some genetics going on for sure, but absolutely

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>takes some shaping as well. But you have to condition

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>them over time, uh, from the time they're little pups

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to start them out wearing the collar and the harness

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to get used to it. To pulling little light things

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>around the house that's adorable, yeah, um. To building up

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>their endurance in their in their strength over time, just

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know any endurance race, if you're a marathon

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>or the same deal. You don't go out and run

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty six miles. And you also have to be um.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>You have to understand um verbal commands obscure ones too,

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>like hike not much, though no one says much to

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a dog. Let's go all right? All those mean let's

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>let's go right. Yeah, I think that's how they say

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it easy if you want to slow down and we

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't decide as a G I think it's g I

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>think I think it's gum. Or come haw to go

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>left or right? Haw is definitely haw uh straight on

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and then whoa if you're gonna stop. It makes sense

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like with a horse, and imagine straight on means keep

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>on going. They also definitely need to learn to work together,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>which is not necessarily in every breed of dogs makeup.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, dogs have alpha dogs and their pack dogs,

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and you have a lead dog that that lead dog

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and fulfill that role. But you also want dogs that

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>can that aren't like constantly jockeying for position, that they

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>know their place and they're willing to work together with

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the other dogs. Temperaments a big deal for sure. And

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>then um, you also when you're running the Iditara and

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you're putting a sled team together, you out you want

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to pick dogs of similar build, similar gait and speed.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>You want them to basically move as one. And so

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the selection and your dogs that you

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>put together for a team is going to have a

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 1>huge impact on the like how they pay well together

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>but not and not just temperamentally but physically and in

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the way that they move as well. Yeah, and the dogs, uh,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they can be big um, But generally I think for

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the endurance races, you want a dog this between like

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>forty and sixty pounds and how old are they Well, um,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be a sled dog, you're probably

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>at least two. But you would think you know, like

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>if you look at thoroughbred horse racing, those horses are

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>retired by like age three, I think maybe four. These

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>dogs will pull sleds and compete in like races up

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>until age ten. Yeah, not bad. And again at the

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Nali National Park. They get retired at age nine. Uh.

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>They're eating a lot. Uh. They need to eat around

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand calories a day while they're doing these races. Uh.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>That's about two thousand pounds of food per team and

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it's mostly just meat. But they have this stuff. It's

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of like how can the Appalachian Trail? They have

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it flown ahead and dropped off at all these checkpoints,

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>so the food in your bourbon is waiting there when

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you get there. There was a guy um Man what

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>was his name, Macki Lance Mackie. He was like the

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>number one I did a rod racer for several years

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, he was not well liked among all I

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>did a rod racers because he used to just do

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>things like smoke pot like while he was just riding

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>along on the I did or trail. I saw the

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>drugs and alcohol was the thing with Musher's. I don't

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>know if that's how widespread it is, but well, it's

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like a marijuana is a banned substance now even apparently

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about legalizing it in Alaska and the I

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>did a rude committee is like not still can't smoke pot?

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Lance Mackie, we're looking at you. Um. But apparently according

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to this New Yorker article, great New Yorker article, the

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>White Wall check it out. ESPN has a really good

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>one too. Um. They said that he quit and did

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the did the race straight and still one once I think,

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and then smoke tons of pot right afterwards to celebrate. Yeah. Um.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>But the along this trail, um, you were saying that

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that the dogs eat mostly meat. They eat different types

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>of meat. They also eat like, um, nutritional supplements. And

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in the White Wall the article they describe what Dallas

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>stevis feeding his dogs at One Stop, and he's it's

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>like a four course meal. He starts with a broth

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>um with kibble and some nutritional supplements, and then they

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>eat some fish steaks, you know, they have some beef

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and when they finish it all off with chicken skin

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like all fat. That sounds delicious. Yeah, And the dogs

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>are eating like ten to fourteen thousand calories a day,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>which is like ten times the cloric intake of an

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>active dog of about the same size, ten times just

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>in a day. Yeah, because well they're they're running like

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>over a hundred miles a day. It's crazy. Uh, they're

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>wearing little doggy booties now, um, because it's very rough

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.959
<v Speaker 1>on their feet obviously running over this ice and snow

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and rough terrain. Uh. And a team will go through

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>as many as two thousand pairs or this has two

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand booties. Maybe a thousand pairs. Yeah, well no, yeah,

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a thousand pairs. Would it be a pair before? Yeah,

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>a dog pair of before? So five hundred dog pair.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>We just created a new thing. It's like a Baker's dozen.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>So two thousand booties we'll go through. Um, but they're

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>still going to get their feet beat up, their paws

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>beat up pretty bad. Well yeah, because dogs perspire by

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>panting and on the bottoms of their feet, So you

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>can't just wear um booties all the time. So that

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the mushers things that they really have to

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>be paying attention to is a good time to give

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the dogs feet to rest without the booties, to let

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>them basically perspire so they don't overheat. Yeah, And I

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that if they're really hauling and they

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>see that they've lost a few booties, they're not like, oh,

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>let me stop and put a fresh booty. You know,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They're they're mushing forward so Chuck, let's take a break, um,

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and uh, we'll come back and talk about some other stuff.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, we've talked about dogs, We've talked a little

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>bit about mushers. But one thing that makes a good

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>musher is granted, they are standing. They're not running. Well,

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they're running along, but they're basically they're definitely standing.

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's tough. It's not like I get the feeling.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you've ever been snow skiing or water skiing,

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it's hard on your legs. It's not like, oh, I'm

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just standing here or taking a joy ride. Ye have

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>over over bumpy terrain um for hours and hours and

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>hours basically for eight days. It's gonna be strong and

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of stamin in your own self. You

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>also have to put up with again you have to

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>be yeah, mentally tough. You have to put up with

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the hallucinations and um not make really bad decisions while

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>you're on the trail and it's night and you haven't slept. Um.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you also need to pack. Well, yeah, you

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>want to bring everything. It's sort of like backpacking everything

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you need but as light as you can make it.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And you there's actually stuff you have to bring just

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>to survive. You gotta have a sleeping bag, sleeping bag

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and axe, snowshoes, a little cooking pot and fuel so

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you can boil water. Sure, um, and then you also, um,

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>most of them carry a gun. The Dallas CV guy

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 1>said that he carries a three fifty seven with him

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and he actually shot a moose with it that was

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>charging him and his dogs. And no, because this is

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 1>his long time rival, the the young upstart, the clean Liver,

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>whose father Straight Edge U was also I Did a

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Rod winner from two thirteen. I think it very much

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>seems like a family thing. I saw a lot of

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>people with the same last names. Um. And then the

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>other big essential gear is the sled itself, which there's

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>not like. You don't go to the official I Did

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a Rod sled store and buy your sled and go, okay,

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. You you constructed yourself? Oh really, yeah, you

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely can'. I'm sure there's sleds out there that you

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>can buy, but you can also build him yourself. The

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I Did a Rod only requires that quote some type

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of sled or toboggan must be drawn, right, so you

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>want that to be light as well. Um, probably about

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>a hundred pounds empty, more than twice that full. Yeah,

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>plus your own human body. Yeah, which you know, maybe

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>drop a few pounds before the race. And again, I'm

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>sorry to keep going to the same well, but the

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Dallas TV cat, the reason we I keep mentioning him

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>is like he is really your hero. He's he's fine,

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>he's I don't know enough about him to know whether

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he's my hero or not, but he is definitely reshaped

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the um. I did a rod race um with some

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff he's doing. One of the things he's

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>doing is it's making I did a rod racers like

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>more athletic um. Like if they're going up a hill,

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he'll jump off of the runners and run behind the

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>sled rather than just get a ride with the dogs,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>which of course increases your time, but it's also easier

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>on the dogs. It's just you have to be not

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a tub and you have to be able to run

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>up in clins for eight days when you need to.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, that's it can't be fun. Running in

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the snow is not fun, No, but it helps you

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>win and it's easier on your dogs, and if you win,

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get some dough. They split the money up. Um,

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you can actually finish in last place and still get

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>some money. Um, but you're gonna get obviously, the grand

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>prize winner will win a nice fat purse in the

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>six figure range, a really nice purse, very nice. Uh.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Then there are other little prizes along the way, like

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a field day elementary school. If you reach the halfway

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the first much are muchure to go to to the

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>halfway point. Um, in odd number of years it would

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>be I did a right itself and then in cripple Uh,

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>in the even number of years, you're gonna get yourself

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the g C. I. Dorothy pay Age Halfway Award and

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars in gold nuggets gold nuggets. That's pretty neat. Yeah.

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine every once a while they're like, we

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the gold nuggets, but here's three thousand dollars.

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I want my gold nuggets three thousand

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars worth. Um, you bite into it, just check its authenticity,

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and you call the guy who gives your dinner cookie. Yeah. Yeah,

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the Alaska way. Uh. What else? The top lead

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>dog is gonna take home the Lolly Medley Memorial Golden

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Harness Award. Of course everybody knows that. And then um

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there's other towns where if you're the first one to

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>make it to say on Veek or Ruby, um, you'll

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>get a seven course meal and thirty five hundred one

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>dollar bills because it just seems like more not like

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>gold nuggets, but thirty five hundred one dollar bills is

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty great. These are almost like joke gifts. Yeah. Well

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Wells Fargo, which is five dollars in pennies you know,

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>slows you down. Um. Wells Fargo, which is uh one

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of the bigger along with x On Mobile, the two

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest corporate sponsors of the Idea Rode, offers them like

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a the Red Lantern awards the last place finisher. Yeah,

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's from the Widows Lamp. At the finish line,

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>they have the Widows Lamp, which is a a lamp

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that they leave burning until the last musher and team

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>has crossed. And that's from the old days, from they

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>would keep a kerosene lamp burning for people that were

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>still out there on the trails. Well Wells Fargo is

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the old timey multinational bank. Look at their look at

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>their homespun logo with the stage coach, and it's pretty neat.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>They're just Western cowboy bankers, right. And it's funny you

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>mentioned stage coach too, because you're like, wow, this is

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>crazy using dogs and pull sleds and you think what

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you do with other stuff horses. This is using dogs

0:43:55.680 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>as draft animals. Absolutely, that's all totally fine. Uh. So

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they have veterinarians on hand. Um, this article said around

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, So weird, and there's a little bit of

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>weirdness in this article, choke. But they do have veterinarians

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on hand to to examin them during the race, uh,

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>before the race, to make sure they're all healthy. Um.

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>But dogs die. Dogs can die of over exertion. Um.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>They can have trouble catching their breath. They can asphyxiate

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>on vomit um. They can fall through the ice is

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a big one. As a matter of fact, falling through

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the ice is not necessarily a death sentence, even when

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it's negative forty degrees below. Sometimes I'll run right out

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of that thing. Yeah, because they're Alaskan huskies right. Um.

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But there's this very famous story from four there's an

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I did a odd winner named Susan Butcher. And she

0:44:55.960 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>won multiple times. But her team in four UM was

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>let out of after falling through ice, but her two

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>lead dogs pulled the rest of the team out just

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>like one dog at a time until the whole team

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>had made it out of the ice water and continued

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>on kept going. Yeah. Um. And then the next year,

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that same poor lead dog got kicked by a moose

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't finish that year. I believe it had

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to recuperate. He did had to recuperate for a year. UM.

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I believe a hundred and forty four dogs have died

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>since the first race. UH. In the past few years

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>they haven't had any deaths, but generally one or two

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>dogs are going to die. Two thousand nine was a

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 1>bad year. UM. One of the worst and most recent years. UH.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>There was like, I think six dogs that died that

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>year two thousand, I think eleven or twelve. There was

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>one dog that died, but it died terribly. UM. He

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>died from being asphyxiated by the snow after he was

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>left at a checkpoint by his musher in the hands

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of like the local vets at the checkpoint, and they

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>tied him up and the weather got bad and no

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>one brought him in and he was a snow drift

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>just built over the dog. He couldn't go anywhere and

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>he suffocated in the snow. Um that that was a

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>big deal. Um. Yeah, Pete actually had to apologize. They

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>condemned the musher. They said that they just left this dog. No, no,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 1>like they left him officially. No, no, But Peter didn't

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>say that. Petter said they just left this dog behind

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>it h and had they were had a lawsuit brought

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>against them, and they came out and apologized. Said, oh,

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>actually we know it wasn't on you. You left them

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>in the care of somebody else. And they said the

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>person said that the apology was weak. If you're gonna agitate,

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>even if it's four animal rights, you should agitate correctly. No, agreed.

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I get your facts straight before you agitate, You know,

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like there's enough, there's enough there that you can you

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>can get your facts straight and still agitate just as effectively. Yeah,

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about dehydration, ulcers, hypothermia, heart problems, and let's

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about those ulcers. Chuck. There was a study from

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State University UM of a decent number of sled

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>dogs on the Iditarod trail that UM found a lot

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of them had anemia because they had stomach ulcers and

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they were bleeding slowly and developing anemia as a result.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And they got stomach ulcers from being fed aspirin and

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>anti inflammatory drugs like advil to keep them going to

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>keep their joints from hurting, and the the veterinary study

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>suggested that UM, the dogs be fed and acids to

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:48.800
<v Speaker 1>combat the ulcers. So they're getting they're being driven a

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand miles miles over eight days, they're given drugs to

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:55.720
<v Speaker 1>keep their joints from hurting, they're getting ulcers from the drugs,

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>they're getting anemia from the ulcers, and this VET study

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>said that they should be given and acids. Yeah. One

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of the vets, Uh Scott More, he was a volunteer

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>for the race a few years ago, said he saw

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:12.280
<v Speaker 1>dogs with torn achilles tendons, dehydration, diarrhea, hypothermia, hyperthermia, inflammation

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in the wrist, and soreness in the shoulders from the harnesses.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know much about this. I just saw it

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>on the news every now and then. I thought, oh,

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 1>neat these working dogs out racing. But um, I'm gonna

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and say no more I did, or odd

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>shut it down. Oh yeah, yeah, you're killing dogs for

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment of people. I know it's rare, and I

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>know these mushers really care for these dogs and care

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for their well being and do all they can to

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>ensure their safety. But to me, if dogs are dying

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>at all in training, in the race, after the race,

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 1>then you just shouldn't do anymore, or at the very least, uh,

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, shorten the race, or do something to ensure

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that these dogs don't die. Ever, So there's there's a

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of schools that thought. Peter is very

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>much opposed to the Iditarod and dog sled racing in general.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>They're like, just don't hook a dog up to a sled.

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>That's our stance. Now are they against recreational sledding? There

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>against all kinds of sledding, every every sleds What I

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find if you had like six dogs and you

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>sled it over to your friends and they were your

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>family dogs, Peter says, don't do that. I thought it

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>was just competition. There there's a group called the Sled

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Dog Action Coalition. Yes, they are opposed to the iditarod,

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But they don't have a problem with humane and well

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>done recreational mushing. Um. The Humane Society of the United

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>States opposed to the ididar rod. But um is uh,

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a stance on mushing whatsoever. But Peter

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it says, don't don't use a dog as a draft animal,

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>even for your own recreation. Um. But if you'll notice,

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the one common thread is that all these groups are

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 1>opposed to the idea it a rod itself. They are

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>saying like, even if you have vets on at every checkpoint,

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>apparently the mushers can um overrule the vets ruling. If

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a vets like this dog needs to come out, the

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 1>musher can be like, get lost and the vet doesn't

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>have any recourse. Um, And that's totally well within the rules.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But even if you do have vets looking after them,

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and even if Peter has successfully promoted change and the

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>idea ROD is credited for really facing up to a

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of the problems that the dogs face and dealing

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>with them and having like a very low tolerance for

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 1>animal cruelty, especially um, the very fact that you're hooking

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>up animals too sled and driving them miles over eight

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>days is in and of itself, to a lot of critics,

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>inhumane for the entertainment of people. Even take that away

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.959
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. It's it's inhumane, like, well take it away.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's not like the old days where you needed

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to deliver the mail's serums. I mean, it's purely for

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>entertainment at this point. And I know it's tradition, and

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>people that are into this are gonna say, like, you

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>know that you could do anything these days. Definitely, this

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>is a proud old tradition, like just stay We've moved

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to Alaska for a reason. Stay out of my business. Um.

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 1>And they definitely do take that stance for sure. But

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not to say that mushers are cruel awful people.

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>By all accounts, most of them are very good to

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<v Speaker 1>their animals because they want them to perform well. Uh

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they are like family to them in most cases. But

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<v Speaker 1>you still hear about these uh terrible things that happen

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the in the training. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the race itself, it's the training, it's the pens. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they still call animals. There's one guy named Frank Winkler.

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<v Speaker 1>Two times I did a ride racer. He was charged

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<v Speaker 1>with fourteen counts of cruelty two animals. When UH animal

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<v Speaker 1>control officer are found a craze of dead and dying

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<v Speaker 1>puppies in his truck. He said he couldn't afford to

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<v Speaker 1>take him to the vet. So they'll call the dogs

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<v Speaker 1>like if you have a deformity, if you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, they will still kill that's what calling means.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill the puppies. And they don't call them by injecting

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<v Speaker 1>them with um, you know, sodium pentethal or some gassing them.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them, A lot of kennels, even like

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<v Speaker 1>professional kennels UM will shoot them. And the I did

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<v Speaker 1>a rod committee. That's that's within their rules. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can shoot a dog to cull it. Colling is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you call it um is okay. Apparently beating

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<v Speaker 1>a dog to death is not really acceptable. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Frank Winkler did. But for he did he shot

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<v Speaker 1>some and then I guess he ran out of bullets

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and started using an axe handle and he was an

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<v Speaker 1>I did rod racer um. And that's a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the kennels that there are a lot of kennels out

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<v Speaker 1>there that don't treat their dogs very well. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>feed them enough, they treat them fairly and humanely, and

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<v Speaker 1>just the very fact that they cold dogs that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>good enough is is um reprehensible to a lot of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>me included at the u S UH. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, and me too, like I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a there's a part of me that

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is not my thing that's up in Alaska.

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But dogs belong to humanity. Well, yeah, it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>we did the bullfighting thing, like you can take your

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>tradition and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. And again,

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>culling isn't something that all breeders do, all kennels do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the dogs now that aren't capable or adopted

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<v Speaker 1>out to loving families, which is great, but culling is

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<v Speaker 1>still a part of the culture and some kennels, uh

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the u S crab Lunic Kennel and aspin Colorado UH

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<v Speaker 1>say that as many as thirty five dogs have been

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<v Speaker 1>killed annually by gunshot to the head. And the manager said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, culling dates back hundreds of years. It's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of the circle of life for this dog

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>sled dog. The circle of life, the nine millimeter of

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the brain is these so um, yeah, wow, it's part

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 1>of the circle of life. Huh, that's what are you said?

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.320
<v Speaker 1>And so Chuck. A lot of this stuff is reserved

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>for the I did a rod specifically, and the kennels

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that supply dogs for the idea rod. But just having

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a sled dog in and of itself is not necessarily

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>a bad thing, or even using a dog for a

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>sled dog is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I take a heart line as PA. Maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to recreationally much Uh, there is a long,

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 1>great history of it. I have no problem with it

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because these dogs do love to run. Uh, they love

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>to pull, and that's their job. But I just can't

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>get behind endurance racing if these dogs are being injured

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 1>or if they die from it. It's just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people disagree. We don't put

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 1>opinions in here much, but one argument I don't want

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to hear is that we should shut down all endurance

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<v Speaker 1>racing for humans in because humans can get injured and die.

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.320
<v Speaker 1>The key difference here is humans have free will and

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they elect to do so. Uh big difference between animals

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<v Speaker 1>and humans that it's just not a comparison I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should make. Okay, Well, if you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more in the meantime about the I Did Rod, you

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my day tech talking about the three

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it. As someone who regularly discusses poop and digestion,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to hear it on a podcast. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you guys should do a breastfeeding episode. Breastfeeding is

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<v Speaker 1>super fascinating. Uh so, thanks for being great in car entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>I came across this gem of a conversation a few

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 1>years back because, uh, you guys were asking for different

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>names for taking a poop, and she said someone had

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>written name your poop after a movie on a bathroom wall,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course a plenty list ensued. And here are

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 1>some of my favorites. The Great Escape and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard from a lot of people with great names.

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<v Speaker 1>Children of the Corn, The Exorcist, Operation Dumbo, Drop e

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>t the Extraterrestrian, I don't get held, I don't. I

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't get the Exors, Rosemary's Baby not bad, the hurt Locker,

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>mud Gross, Apocalypse now not bad, easy writer, and there

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>will be blood gross so gross. So the first part

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually two emails. The first part was from Sarah uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the boop movies was from read Sarah. I

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to be associated with that. What was Sara?

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<v Speaker 1>He was the one that said that that gress feeding

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<v Speaker 1>would be good. And she's a dietitian and she talks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about poop. So we should do a breast

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<v Speaker 1>feeding one again if it canna be a hornet's nest.

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But we could do it. Sure, we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>research it because there's no article on how stuff works.

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