WEBVTT - Imagine Me & You with Samee Junio 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.960 On the Bell cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.960 women in them? Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:13.720 Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef invest start changing 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:19.079 it with the bec Del cast. Hey Jamie, Hey Caitlin. Look, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.400 I know it's your wedding day and you're getting married 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:27.159 to Alfred Molina right now, But yeah, could this weight no? 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.560 Because I did your floral arrangements and then I looked 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.040 at you and I fell in love with you at 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.760 first sight. Wait, I phone in love with you at 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.240 first sight. This is gonna be kid suck. We should well, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.240 let's wait a couple of weeks. Jeez, okay, okay, yeah, God, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.280 Alfred is going to so bummed out when he finds out. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.280 He's gonna be so bummed out. He's gonna have to 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.159 talk to my precocious kids sister about it on a 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.800 roof for some reason. Yeah, and then he's going to 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.880 be like, I should have married you in year old kid, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.080 and they're just like, what is this joke that's happening 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:10.200 with the hot guy from Chasing Liberty? Welcome to cast. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.480 My name is Jamie Loftus. I just married Alfred Molina. Congratulations. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.640 My name is Caitlyn Dronte and I will soon be 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:25.160 marrying Jamie Loftus. It's awesome. And and now um and 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.640 my my, my funny dad is going to be so supportive. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.840 Your dad? Who is Giles from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.319 I didn't watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so I did 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.200 not know that. Did you know that Matthew Good was 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.360 the hot guy from Chasing Liberty? I don't know what 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.720 Chasing Liberty is. See, And that's why this is such 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.960 a strong partnership. We we compliment each other so well. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.360 We fill in each other's gaps. Wink coo. This is 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 really This is Caitlin's horney this year, and it's starting 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:03.400 to seep into the vernacular here as well. I won't 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.920 deny it. Oh my god, remember when you hit on 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:11.240 it hit on the tech Guy at our show. I 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.200 only say that because it was in front of the 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.960 audience on Mike. It was it was sort of aggressive. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.240 I did apologize to him afterward and I said, I'm 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.560 sorry if that made you uncomfortable. But I did call 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.720 back to me hitting on the Tech Guy at a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.040 live show that we did in Los Angeles, several times, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:35.160 and um, and you think this they actually everyone kind 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.200 of did love it, and uh, now we can do 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.040 a reverse and I can show up at your wedding 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.919 in low rise jeans, uh, with a huge belt that's 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:50.200 like four inches thick. Every outfit that Lena Hetty wars 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.400 and this, uh is it's equally baffling and enticing to me. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.960 I really love it. The pants just they're so I 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.920 know that that's like just two thousand five in general, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.440 but when you see pants going so dangerously low, it's concerning. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.920 There is like I feel like there's some margin of 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.840 error where it's like there's an inch of hip flesh 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.959 where it's like stops being sexy and starts being like, 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:21.160 what's going to happen? Like it starts right, it starts 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.440 to make me nervous. Yeah. Speaking of the wardrobe, I 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.680 wrote down in my notes that this is the scarfyst 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.880 movie I've ever seen, and that no less than thirty 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.120 different scarves are seen spread across at least a dozen 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.640 different characters. It's very scarfy. I didn't notice this scarfys 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.400 because I was too busy writing down this horrible joke. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:59.840 What is this coyote British. Okay, it's the episode of Yes, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.800 thanks for listening. You can you can follow us on Twitter. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.240 Let's get Sammy in here. It's time. Yeah, we gotta 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.280 get Sammy in here. So we'll introduce our guests and 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.000 then we'll explain what this podcast is. So our guest 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.760 today is the senior audio producer at Entertainment Weekly. You 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.760 know them from our episodes on She's the Man and 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.839 Crazy Stupid Love? Is that even the name of that movie? 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.120 Don't remember? And you know them from being our road 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:38.200 dog on various tours. It's Sammy Junio. Welcome back friend. Wait, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.160 is this your jacket appearance? This is this is episode three, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.360 isn't it? This is three? But we are jacket appearances. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.839 We give our out jackets jacket five five? Yeah, and 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.039 to be clear, who has a jacket? Followed through on 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.039 the jacket promise? We've never given out a jacket. Naomi 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.360 has a jacket? Does just just Kenese? Just Kenese has 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.000 a jacket? God damn it. That's exciting because now I 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.000 think I confuse it with three. She's in the three club, right, correct, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.159 there's a three club, then there's the jacket club, right, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.000 So Sammy you are now in the three club, which 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.400 is just the name that I don't get a jacket. No, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.880 we'll give you a little hug. I think I'm busy 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.960 now I should believe so Caitlin's horny year. I just 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.400 want to hug my friends. I know I've talked about 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.080 this on the show before, but I worked very briefly 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.600 right after I got out of college at this place. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.520 But I guess will remain nameless because it's still open 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.680 for some reason. But they call their employees guest huggers, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.400 and if anyone comes in and they're like, I want 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.160 to hug At the time, you had to hug them, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.880 I hate it. And you made eight dollars an hour 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.080 and it was four thirty in the morning. How many 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.719 hugs did you deal out? I would say I didn't 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.479 give out many hugs, but I hugged the same people 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.200 over and over. A lot of regulars came in wanting 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.120 wanting a hug because the hug is required. Did you 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.760 have like limitations around the hugs, like no longer than 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.719 three seconds, you can't snuggle in their neck? Like what's 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.040 the deal with these hugs? I don't think unless I'm 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.920 blocking things out, I don't think I ever had a 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.440 problem with like hug duration. It was more the firmness 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.040 of the hug and the earliness I felt. I felt 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.039 defenseless because it was always five am, and it would 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.880 be like a weird old guy would come in and 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:34.839 he's like, I'm here, and you know, so I'm here. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.240 I'm here for my hog, and then you didn't have 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.600 to hug him. I don't like that one bit for anyways, Sammy, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.040 that's what we could do for you, thoughts, Okay, yeah, 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:46.760 I'll do it. We're going to have it. I'll pay 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.480 you both eight dollars an hour. Sorry, bye, oh thank you? Yeah, yeah, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.440 thanks so much. Um. This is our show in which 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.279 we examined movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.600 Bechtel test simply as a jumping off point to get 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:05.400 a converse station going and Jamie, what is that though? Oh? Yeah, um, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.520 well it's this the Bechdel Test. There's a lot of 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.400 different versions of it. It was created by queer cartoonist 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.840 Alison Bechdel, sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace Test. Our version 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.240 of it is this, we require that two characters of 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.960 a marginalized gender with names talk to each other about 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.840 something other than a man for two lines of dialogue, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.080 and they have to be narratively significant lines of dialogue. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.920 No past the coffee, okay, No, no thank you okay 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:41.840 unless unless that coffee has poison? Yeah? Wow? Should we 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.720 write this screenplay? I think I just rewatched Phantom Thread 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:51.600 is that's my cross to bear? Um? The movie recovering 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:56.040 today is Imagine Me and You. It is a two 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.120 thou and five British I don't know why I said 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.560 British like that, like accusation, British rom com directed by 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.560 Mamma Mia. Mama me a man Old Parker ak Mr 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:16.640 Papia MoMA Me and You. That's where he got the 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:21.120 idea to direct Mamma Mia. Wow. What's his name? I 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.119 know that he's married to His name is Old park 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.920 Yeah he is Mr Dandy Newton. Oh congrats? Yeah yeah, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.800 truly they've been married for a long time. And so 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.240 they're at home. I mean, is he called Papa Pia 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:39.080 at home? Compia anywhere? That's what? That's not even my junk. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.040 That's from our MoMA Mia episode with me. Wow, that's 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.880 a call back. I think I forgot about. It's a 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.520 good jow when she said Papa Pia, it rocked my world. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.679 He I don't think he directed the first one. It 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.720 was just Momma, here we go again. Or did he 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.920 do both? I think he just did the second one. Yeah, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.199 unless he only wants credit for the second one. No, No, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:12.680 he's he's directed this. He's directed the best Exotic Mayor, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.320 so he wrote it. I don't think I care. I mean, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.600 he's worth talking about because he, as far as I know, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:26.480 is a straight man who directed, wrote, and directed this 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.880 movie about queer women's so that'll be worth discussing. Perhaps 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.760 he didn't do terrible things to them, which is nice true, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.400 but then there's also some choices that were made. I'm like, yes, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.199 a straight guy wrote this movie. I can tell Sammy, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.760 what is your relationship with this movie? This movie was 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.680 brought to my attention recently by one of my dear friends, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.400 and I mentioned that I hadn't seen it, and she 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.720 said she reacted in that way that like some people 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.160 do when you don't you haven't watched like Jurassic Arc 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.760 or Back to the Future, and you have to see it, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.600 which usually I shut down and then stop watching movies 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.800 for two years because I just don't like that too much, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.080 too much. It's a little too much. But because it 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.679 is a piece of queer cinema, I watched it. It's fine, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:27.000 it's fine. It is fine. Yeah, we'll talk about the 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.160 degree to which it is fine. For the record, though, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.800 when you approached me to cover a movie on the 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.520 Bachtel cast because of my gayness and you get doing 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.520 a rainbow capitalism move by featuring queers in June, I 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.920 we're basically the gap and we're like, all of our 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.240 shirts are rainbow this month or whatever. It's like, yeah, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.840 we're a bank with a rainbow flag outside. That's terrifying. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.800 And then outside of June, you're awful, right, don't give jerks. Yeah, 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.720 I'd say we're the opposite of allies. Right, Okay, So, uh, Jamie, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.240 what is your relationship with this movie? If any, I 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.760 didn't really have one. I was aware of this movie 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.840 and I had not seen it. It wasn't like honestly, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.640 sometimes I the difference between me ching a movie and 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.120 not is is it streaming for free at this exact second. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.080 If the answer is no, then I'm like, well I'll 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.240 get around to it, or eventually I'll have to pay 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.120 four dollars to watch it for my job, and that 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.160 is what has happened here. And I, I mean, I 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.000 enjoyed it. I think that like there's there are some 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.480 problematic elements to it, but as far as uh, you know, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.440 I generally like rom comms, even when they're corny and 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:51.400 problematic and horrible, and this movie is all three of 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.600 those things to some extent, but to less of an 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.040 extent than I think your average rom com, which is 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.520 pretty impressive. So I enjoyed it. I thought it was lovely. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.640 I also, like, really like the two lead actors in 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.959 this movie, so that made it quite easy to watch. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.520 And also they're like I fell down a rabbit hole 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.440 of how they're like best friends. And there's all these 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.080 cute interviews that they've done together, because they did two 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.920 movies together this year, and one was called The Cave 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.040 and one was called Imagine Me, and you like we 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.800 were so close from the set of the Cave that 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.440 we couldn't wait to play a couple. I don't know 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.319 what The Cave is about, and I don't care. I'm 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.280 guessing it's about a cave that much I feel pretty 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:41.400 sure of. But or it's another queer exploration movie and 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:47.560 the Cave is a puss. Things are getting horny again. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:59.800 Dang it like that guys Nottle hornytown. Here we go broom. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.440 Oh okay. I had never seen this movie either, and 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:10.720 it wasn't even super on my radar. I was under 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.520 the impression that basically every not that this is even 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.760 an extremely mainstream movie. But it got like a theatrical release, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.800 not the widest release, but it's like a fairly widest 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.240 It's not like an art house movie. It's like a 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:31.360 fairly mainstream British cow wide was the Caves release? I 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.960 bet it was a little bit wider and yeah, definitely longer. 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.680 You So what was I saying this movie? It was 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.319 not super on my radar because I was under the 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:47.920 impression that the most mainstream lesbian movies were period pieces 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.360 that ended in sadness and or tragedy. So I was 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.360 pleasantly surprised that this is a lighthearted rom com that 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.079 has a happy ending. It has a big corny ending 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.840 set piece and rething. Oh yeah, parents are French ng 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.400 in traffic. You're like, what is going on here? There's 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:15.520 a check offs diaphragm. We'll get into that Forney, So 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.960 should I? Should I do the recap of the movie. Actually, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.200 let's take a quick break first, because we've been we've 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:30.200 been yabbing, horny yabs and what wait wait, wait before 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.640 we go to this break any it's just when you're 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:39.160 yabbing and gabbing, is yabb even a word? Look, I'm 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.920 tired today, so we're gabbing, and it took so long 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.920 that we have to go to break. So let's do 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:55.320 that and we'll be right back. And we're back. We're 0:14:55.320 --> 0:15:00.720 on fire today. I swear our smoothest episode. It I 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.880 feel like I've derailed us. No, no, it's not you, Sam, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:14.360 it's actually because Caitlin was getting derailed whoke Horney. The 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.920 plot of Imagine Me and You is this. We meet Rachel. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.680 That's Piper Parabo. She is getting ready for her wedding. 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:28.120 She's with her mom and dad, Tessa and Ned played 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:33.680 by Celia Emery, I'mory and Anthony Head that's Giles from 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:39.200 Buffy Gile. Also there is Rachel's little sister, Henrietta, and 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.240 then also her friends come in Beth and Zena played 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.400 by Sharon Horgan and Vanette Robinson. Remember where they made 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:52.560 the kids fall in love. Sorry, there when they hate it, creepy, creepy. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:58.160 I hate it so much. Here is h actually Rachel's 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.760 little sister, because when they're walking, he's a carnival bonfire thing. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.720 She's with another adult and she's like, I'm not your mother. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.600 I was really curious about that too, because she only 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.360 has adult friends. This little girl, this nine year old girl, 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.840 doesn't have any friends her age except for a boyfriend 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.680 she gets later. She only hangs out with adults. The 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.240 woman who is like, I'm not your mom is her 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.760 friend Beth. It's such a bizarre addition to the movie. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.200 But there is a little sister, Henrietta. It is I 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.640 feel like the mid two thousand's was the peak of 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.240 this just like garbage trope of like I'm a kid 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.800 and all my friends are adults, that I'm really smart 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.600 and listen to my vocabulary and do you believe in 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.160 love at first sight? And you're like, oh my god, 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.360 it's not the kid's fault, but I feel sick. What's 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.440 an unstoppable face? Oh my god? Kind of to be 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.440 my best friend, says Elanista. I was like, what the 0:16:55.520 --> 0:17:01.760 fund is happening? Yeah, she should be shamed. For a 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.920 friend and spending all of her free time with a 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.360 child who she's not related to. Wait, hold on one 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.840 more thing before we talk about did you both see 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:17.359 the fact about Click? Yes on the Wikipedia page. Oh, Sammy, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:21.080 I feel like you'll like this. This movie was originally 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.720 called click because they click, and then they had to 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.399 change it because of the movie Click, which is about 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.639 Stanley with a remote control that changes the course of time. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.560 I feel like that's a It was a good pivot 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.480 because I feel like probably it would have been called click. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:47.000 Oh sure, no one thought of that, And I honestly think, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.480 you know, if there was a movie that needed the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.760 title click more, I think that it was the movie 0:17:54.800 --> 0:18:01.520 about movie Click feels more integral to the premise. Yeah. Anyways, 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.840 how what happens in the movie, So okay, So we 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.359 see Rachel getting ready for her wedding. Then we cut 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.600 to loose. That's Lena Hetty. She is a florist who 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.160 did the floral arrangement for this upcoming wedding. We see 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.159 everyone arriving at the wedding. We meet the groom, Hector 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:26.240 a k A. Heck is what everyone calls him. So British. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.679 One thing that confused me about Hector is that he 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.680 got so or Heck, I guess we have to call 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.000 him heck Um. Is that they established him as being 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.359 very shy, like he's too shy to make his speech 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.520 at the wedding, but then for the rest of the 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:46.520 movie he's in fact very outgoing. So there are a 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.040 lot of that all about public speaking is is horrifying though, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.840 that's true, But then he like was accosting people at 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.880 the grocery store, where he's just like, are you gay? 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.679 At the girl? I was like, this feels like a 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.760 different person to me at grocery outing. What a what 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.160 a trope? What was going on there? Still, I still 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.720 think that public speaking is is horrifying, and there's a 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.520 big difference between that and outing people on the grocery store. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.399 Fair enough, Heck really loves to out people. At least 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.240 every other scene it happens. It happens so frequently it 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:24.480 kind of becomes his thing. It's really bizarre. Yeah, so 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:29.600 there's that. He is played by Matthew Good. The wedding 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:34.399 starts and as Rachel is walking down the aisle, she 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.400 makes eye contact with Loose love It. They give each 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.840 other a little look. It cute. I love it. At 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.199 the reception, Loose introduces herself to Rachel. She helps like 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.240 fish Rachel's wedding ring out of a glass bucket full 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:58.399 of some kind of drink. This scene, it's a fun scene. Also, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.560 here's some things about that whole scene. Number one, Loose 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:06.040 already just wraps her arm around Rachel, like immediately to 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.359 move her in front of her while she's fishing the 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:14.400 punch out. So touchy. Doyd love it. Yes? Is it inappropriate? Also? Yes? 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.000 And then also if you're going elbow deep into anything 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.920 or anyone. She didn't take off any she didn't wipe 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.359 off her arm. She knew how far she had to 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.080 go in. She didn't wipe off her she didn't take 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.000 off her jewelry, which was the whole problem. Also, was 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.520 it explained how the ring even got in there. She's like, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.960 it's in there. It's like, how did it know? Who 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.920 put it there? She just dropped it in because you 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:45.200 didn't want to be married to her? Straight as heck. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.320 She made a mistake, immediately knew it. Yeah, I guess 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:53.040 that's foreshadowing her wedding ring falling off. She also she 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.840 does play with it at the end, spoiler alert. And 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.440 she's just like, it's still not tied on her finger 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.760 because it's just like flopping around anyway. You can't be 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.280 having a floppy wedding ring. Yeah, doesn't bode well. I 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.720 do like when Lena Hetty, Lena Hetty gives that jerky 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:15.199 guy that heck works with a clammy handshake, and I 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.880 giggled giggled at the clammy handshake. There was a sound 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:23.080 effect it was like and it was gross. There's also 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.199 the thing of like, uh, I forgot all of their 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:30.800 names just now, Rachel Loose Loose instinctually put the ring 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.240 back on Rachel's finger, and Rachel there was like, no, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.359 there's no like shock of oh, she's touching me, Like 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.720 she's just like I put it on as your hand 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.159 is behind your back and I don't know. They were 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.240 being rascally. I loved it. I'm realizing that I mix 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:51.840 up this guy, Matthew Good with another British guy who 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:57.800 was hot around the same time named Hugh Dancy. Oh 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.719 isn't Hugh Dancy the guy and Ella enchanted? Or no? Yes, okay, 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.440 they're just like generically it's hard to keep generically hot 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.720 guys straight. Sometimes true Also, I think Hugh Dancy is 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:13.199 married to oh gosh, I forgot her name, Claire Danes. Okay, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:17.119 oh yeah, he is big win for Hugh. She's Matthew 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.960 Good's wife doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. It makes 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:26.120 me sick, loser, I all right, but I just need 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:31.960 to barrel through this. Okay. So we see Loose helping 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.880 Rachel with her floppy wedding ring, and then we see 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:39.320 them like vibing. You know, they're they're they're connecting. We 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.680 also see a bunch of men try to hit on Loose, 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:48.040 such as Heck best Man, Coop and then that sleazy 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.280 guy that you were talking about Jamie's names Rob, but 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.600 take Coop, Heck, Loose Um Coop socks and I hate 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.280 that the movie tries to make us think that he 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.040 doesn't suck. Yeah, I think that's That was one of 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.840 the more glaring things for me was being asked to 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:09.000 root for Coop. Yeah, can't, can't do it. So all 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.720 these guys are hitting on Loose, but she doesn't seem 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.560 to be into any of them. Then, one day after 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:20.719 the wedding, Rachel comes into Loose's flower shop and thanks 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:25.760 her for doing a good flower job. At the wedding. 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.960 At what wedding does the florist hang out the entire 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:35.200 time and has such a presence that a child befriends 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:39.159 them and then come for their number. I don't understand this. 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.480 How did they stay in contact this child and this 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.919 adult right in two thousand and five? No, less like 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.359 would have been very difficult. I also, I mean there's 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:53.120 so many like this is such a rom COMI rom 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.119 com like down to the fact that her job is florist. 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.480 You're like, really, we couldn't do at least you see 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.840 her doing her job and it's not just like, what's 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:05.600 a rom com job? She curates things at museum, but 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.480 she has a flourish Do we know what Rachel does? 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.560 I believe she's a journalist, but we only see one 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:17.840 scene in which she is doing work journally. But your diary, Yeah, 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.600 she's she's writing into her diary. UM. I made note 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.960 of this that the movie cares way more about hex 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.960 job because we see him at work, we're talking about 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.280 work or something relating to his work, and not just 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.640 his current job but his like dream job that gets 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.960 talked about constantly. And then Rachel's job is just like 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.040 what does she do again? You see her at an 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.960 office a bunch. I didn't realize that she was doing journalism. 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.359 There's that scene where she seems to be like editing 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.560 a piece that either someone else wrote or that she wrote. 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.720 You'd be funny if she was like solving the Zodiac 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.360 case and just the movie was not interested in there, 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.680 just like she won a Pulitzer the next year, not 0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.120 the the plot of the movie was very interested in that. 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.240 I love that he also hex job. I don't know, 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.199 like what I'm sure I I sort of understand like 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.399 where they weren't going by being like he's got to 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.760 make changes in his life question Mark. But like, I 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.359 don't know why we're seeing this man at work doing 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:24.080 business deals and being like, I hate business deals four 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:30.240 point one temperatures. What are you doing? I think he's 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.639 day trading crypto. Do you think Papa Pia really knew 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.840 what he was writing down when he wrote that down? 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.479 I don't think. So. I don't know this job, my 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:46.200 my just stay stuffing the phone. I don't know go on, Oh, okay, 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.560 So Rachel goes to lose his flower shop and she's like, hey, 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:56.280 come to dinner with me and my husband. We'll see 0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.239 you Friday, and she's and loses, like sounds great. So 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.080 then Rachel tells Heck about these dinner plans, and she 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:09.159 reveals that she is trying to set up Loose with Coop, 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.200 that guy who is like hecks friend slash best man. 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.639 And this is a part of the movie that don't 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.880 try to find any logic here, because there isn't any, 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.240 because what has happened already is that Coop at the 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:26.320