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Speaker 1: I find it extraordinarily helpful to me personally and helping

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Speaker 1: sign up for a one or two year membership. Today. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to talk about. The

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Speaker 1: meeting last night, which I just wrote a newsletter about

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Speaker 1: at the White House between President Biden and the Rational

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Speaker 1: Leaders didn't go anywhere. Biden is apparently playing a bluff

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Speaker 1: which I think is frankly a dead loser. Speaker McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: having passed a debt ceiling with a four point eight

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Speaker 1: it gets signed into law, and then they pass a

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Speaker 1: debt ceiling. But it's going to be pretty tricky now.

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Speaker 1: The fact is that when Secretary of treasurer yelling when

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Speaker 1: very messy. So that's one front Chairman Comer's press conference

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Speaker 1: Biden himself and that he has pretty rattled right now. Third,

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Speaker 1: But all the polling data now shows Trump either tied

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Speaker 2: It's really important today because it provides again our roadmap

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Speaker 3: Hello, I was wondering what your reaction is to the

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Speaker 1: I had this happened to me when I was Speaker.

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Speaker 1: We had a member from Oregon who had lied about

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Speaker 4: And our next question is from Max in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 4: and he says, after the Reach shooting in Texas where

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Speaker 4: what can we actually do to control the out of

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Speaker 1: We got to find out how he got his guns,

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Speaker 1: as tragic as they are, but we're losing more Americans

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Speaker 1: eight years of the Vietnam War. In addition, when you

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Speaker 5: My question is Texas AG can pact and spoke to

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Speaker 5: the Heritage Foundation two weeks ago. The conference was attended

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Speaker 5: in Texas. Ken Paxton concluded by saying that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you have to assume that in every

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Speaker 6: Do you think that there's any possibility Biden is going

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Speaker 1: But Joe, what was your sense of its relevance to today?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's really important today because it provides

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Speaker 1: Then I felt that it really did provide a whole

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Speaker 4: This next question is from Sally in Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 1: on artificial intelligence. It's a fascinating topic. Last year, Speaker

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, Speaker McCarthy and the Democratic Leader Hakim

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Speaker 1: I do think that there are a variety of uses

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Speaker 3: Hello, I was wondering. I just saw a recent ad

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Speaker 3: wondering if you could speak a little bit on what

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Speaker 3: that is about and how we can get it when

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Speaker 3: we would like to.

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Speaker 1: That's great, thank you, Thank you for asking, and I'm

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Speaker 1: have a very important new book called March to the Majority.

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Speaker 1: It really matters because it's really a cookbook about what

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Speaker 1: we did for sixteen years to grow the majority, to

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Speaker 1: for four years to out maneuver Bill Clinton. So though

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Speaker 1: and a whole range of other things, and coming to

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Speaker 1: the Congress the state of the Union and announcing the

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Speaker 1: era of big government is over. Turned out not to

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Speaker 1: be accurate, but it gave you some sense of the

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Speaker 1: mood at the time. Comes out June sixth. You can

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Speaker 1: pre order it now, and I think it's a very

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Speaker 1: very important book for activist conservatives Republicans. It's a book

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Speaker 1: which uses history to teach the principles, much like a cookbook,

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Speaker 1: to teach the principles of what works now. And I

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Speaker 5: Can the injustices of holding the January sixth political prisoners

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Speaker 1: When you get a new president. The current president deliberately

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Speaker 1: uses an exaggeration about what happened on January sixth, is

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Speaker 1: based a great deal of his re election campaign on

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Speaker 1: smearing and attacking Republicans. As recently as yesterday, the presidential

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Speaker 1: Press secretary was attacking Republicans as extremists. It's a key

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Speaker 1: part of their vision of the world, and so they're

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Speaker 1: not going to do anything. It's a tragedy and it's

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Speaker 4: Ross and Virginia asked, do you think that the lawsuit

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Speaker 4: with Ejen Carroll will have any effect on Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it has some effectors as one more

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Speaker 1: in a long series of efforts to attack him. I

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Speaker 1: establishment is so terrified of Trump and so terrified of

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Speaker 1: It wasn't such an on any.

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Speaker 4: Assault Katie and Pennsylvania, She says, Since you were so

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Speaker 4: influential in the budget issues in the nineties, how do

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Speaker 1: I know that Speaker McCarthy is committed, and the Republican

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Speaker 1: a balanced budget over the next decade. As all of

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Speaker 1: you know, I led the effort and we had four

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Speaker 1: consecutive balanced budgets for the only time in your lifetime.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get back to that. I'm

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Speaker 1: And there are a number of governors now involved in

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Speaker 1: and I think that might be a very very good idea.

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Speaker 1: I should remind all of you we do have March

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