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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Chris Harry with you on a special draft

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Speaker 1: edition of Chargers Weekly. A bit later, I'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by Eric Hanson of the South Bend Tribune. We'll learn

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Speaker 1: more about the Charger's first round draft picked Jerry Tillery

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Speaker 1: and his ascension from Notre Dame to the NFL. But first,

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Eric Williams joins me and we recap the first

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Speaker 1: three rounds of the NFL Draft. Well, it's nine pm

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Speaker 1: on a Friday night in coast to Mason. Where else

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Speaker 1: would you rather be, Eric Williams, I'd rather be CUsing

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Speaker 1: up to the bar and got ready to have a

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Speaker 1: jack and coke. But I'm here with you, so I

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Speaker 1: guess that's the second best place. It's been a long

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Speaker 1: day to twenty nineteen NFL Draft. Eric's gonna break down

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Speaker 1: the first three rounds with me and we'll get into

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Speaker 1: what happened today, but first round overall, before we get

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Speaker 1: into Jerry Tillery, just your overall impressions of the first

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Speaker 1: round of the drafts. Well, we were talking about it, um,

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Speaker 1: there were some surprising picks. Obviously, the the Clemson d

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Speaker 1: End going that early when you thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be Oliver or you know, Josh Allen or somebody.

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Speaker 1: But they took their guy who they who they liked,

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Speaker 1: and that makes sense. Daniel Jones going that early to

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Speaker 1: the Giants again is surprising just when you look at

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Speaker 1: the talent level and Haskins going to fifteenth, who I

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Speaker 1: clearly think is a better player than Daniel Jones. But again, um,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about these picks, it's all about fit,

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Speaker 1: not only fit in terms of scheme, but fit in

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Speaker 1: terms of organization and fit in terms of you know

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Speaker 1: what room they're going to be going into. That's right,

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Speaker 1: their personality, Um, all that is going into that equation

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Speaker 1: when a team makes a selection. Those two picks obviously

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Speaker 1: stand out just because of how high those two guys

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Speaker 1: went and where they were, you know, kind of in

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Speaker 1: all these different mock drafts where they were were pegged

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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, which, you know mock drafts, what do

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Speaker 1: we get five six ride if we're lucky? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think somebody on NFL Network even pointed this out, like

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Speaker 1: if Farrell, if Mike Mayock was at NFL Network and

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Speaker 1: had Farrell as his number one pass rusher, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: bat an eye right, We'd be like, oh wow, they

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Speaker 1: got Farrell four overall in condition. Yeah, that's where exactly.

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Speaker 1: So we don't know, I mean we're not looking at

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Speaker 1: you don't know where teams actually have guys rated on

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Speaker 1: their sys their system exactly. And every organization is different,

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Speaker 1: um when it comes to just the identity of what

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Speaker 1: how they see certain players. But you know, the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: safety from Mississippi State, right the neighbor Abraham in the

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Speaker 1: box guy that that that can play the play the run.

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Speaker 1: So Gruden finally got the safety that he wanted apparently,

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Speaker 1: although he obviously spoke highly of Derwin, said he would

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Speaker 1: have took Derwin had they not taken you know, Joseph

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Speaker 1: and and was the guy to it was Colton Miller

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Speaker 1: last year right where they did that, they took a

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Speaker 1: for a third straight dive. So they took Colton Miller instead,

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Speaker 1: who's still a work in progress right now. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and then the Broncos they trade back. The Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: Flacco's best friend is gonna be that tightened from Iowa

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Speaker 1: no offense, and I'm interest see what that looks like

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Speaker 1: because we saw Kittles last year against the Chargers and

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Speaker 1: he can create some explosive plays. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: have to deal with that two times a year now. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: a little bit that may be able to combat that.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry Tillery twenty eight overall, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: want to compliment you. You You look very dapper in your

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Speaker 1: in your mock draft at NFL Nation and Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 1: but Dave Gettleman wanted to snatch him up earlier. But

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Speaker 1: focus was very high on him. A good looking player, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it makes sense he was the best interior pass

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Speaker 1: as they should. Absolutely, And so he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: A few days before the combine, you know, Tillery was

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Speaker 1: I talked to Jerry yesterday for thirty minutes. It's just

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Speaker 1: got themselves a potential starter at free safety. Yeah, fourth

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Speaker 1: his La Times mock, but it was just the wrong round,

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Speaker 1: them full credit. Man. You know, ten years later say

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Speaker 1: you know I had him marked. There was a guy

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Speaker 1: was fine. Um, I just think it's it's a great

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Speaker 1: many different mistakes that guys have on the corners. When

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Speaker 1: this in the middle of the draft, and this is

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Speaker 1: the only thing. It's funny because I've mentioned this a

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Speaker 1: couple of times over the last couple of weeks. Durwin

431
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Speaker 1: justin Jackson helping win a game in Kansas City. You

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Speaker 1: know the fact that Durwin was all pro. Chenna had

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Speaker 1: that big play at the end of the playoff game.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be guys that we're not talking about right

435
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Speaker 1: now that are gonna affect the twenty nineteen season, you know.

436
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Speaker 1: And there's there's guys that the cults are gonna pick

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Speaker 1: up tonight and the rest of the weekend that could

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Speaker 1: affect the season. So we think we know who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be good, we don't know who's gonna be good. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes it fun. That's what makes the NFL the

441
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Speaker 1: greatest mill soap opera in America. And that's why people

442
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: listen to the podcasts that talk about who's gonna win

443
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Speaker 1: what week, how they're gonna end up, who we're gonna draft,

444
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Speaker 1: mock drafts, which I've already talked about. So I don't know, man,

445
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Speaker 1: that's April. April's great because everybody has hope, there's speculation,

446
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Speaker 1: and I don't care what anybody says. The draft is

447
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite home of the year. April's the

448
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Speaker 1: spring training for NFL because, like you said, everybody's optimistic.

449
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's lost a game, yet everybody's team's getting better. You know,

450
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: the press conferences, everybody got their guy. Oh yeah, everybody

451
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Speaker 1: got there. Eric Williams ESPN. I appreciate you staying late, buddy,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you the rest of the weekend, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure very soon here at OTAs sounds good. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having Chris all right now, please be joined by

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Speaker 1: Eric Hanson of the South Ben Tribune here on Chargers Weekly.

456
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Speaker 1: He's a beat writer for Notre Dame Football, and Eric,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you spending some time with this, But how

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Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing great? How are you doing? Chris?

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Speaker 1: Doing very well. I had a chance to meet mister

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Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery this morning and I look forward to getting

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Speaker 1: some insight from you, and it will just start by

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Speaker 1: by getting your reaction to Jerry landing with the Chargers

463
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Speaker 1: at twenty eighth. Overall, well, it seems like a really

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Speaker 1: good sit and I think he's really deserving to be

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Speaker 1: a first round draft choice, because really, when you looked

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Speaker 1: at the breakdown of whether he was a first or

467
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Speaker 1: second round guy, it seemed to revolve around this issue

468
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Speaker 1: of did he have too many interests out of football?

469
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Speaker 1: Was he in love with football enough? It wasn't whether

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Speaker 1: he was a first round town or not. So I

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Speaker 1: think that him going in the first round was really

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Speaker 1: great for Jerry. He talked about having different interests outside

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Speaker 1: of football. Brian Kelly I saw a tweet from him.

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Speaker 1: He referred to Jerry as Notre Dame's most interesting man.

475
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Speaker 1: He has a lot of interests off the field. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. I talked to him

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Speaker 1: about visiting different countries. He speaks Japanese, and I think

478
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Speaker 1: it's it's good to have interests outside of football. I

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Speaker 1: do two and I think, and certainly as a Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame player, that's really value. You know, he was involved

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Speaker 1: in student government and he was involved with just all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things. Did yoga with Brian Kelly and the

483
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Speaker 1: school president, Father Jenkins. Really you did all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: In terms of traveling, he's into the arts. You know,

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Speaker 1: when he showed up, maybe he was a little scatter

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Speaker 1: in terms of his focus. You know, he wanted to

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Speaker 1: be the next president of United States. He wanted to

488
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Speaker 1: be a dentist. But then you know, football became front

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Speaker 1: and center for him. But he still had these other

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Speaker 1: interests and I think had a really good perspective on

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Speaker 1: how to make that all work. I saw some of

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Speaker 1: the reaction coming in last night in the associate head coach.

493
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Speaker 1: Defensive line coach Mike Elston said his journey was unconventional,

494
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Speaker 1: but the destination is just as sweet. He said, you'll

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Speaker 1: do great things. Congrats my man on Twitter. That unconventional

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Speaker 1: part of his career. I have to imagine in high school.

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Speaker 1: That's where it stems from, because he was an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman in high school. If I'm not mistaken, correct. And

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Speaker 1: for two, if you're familiar with the Chicago Bears offensive

500
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Speaker 1: line coach Harry he Stand, he was the offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach at Notre Dame from twenty twelve twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: he was the guy that helped develop and recruit Mike

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Speaker 1: McGlinchey and Quenton Nelson, who were first round draft picks

504
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Speaker 1: last year. Ronnie Stanley first round draft pick for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin first round draft pick for Dallas, and Harry

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Speaker 1: and I actually texted yesterday and he said, had they

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Speaker 1: kept Jerry at offensive tackle, he would have been another

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Speaker 1: one in that lineage of first round offensive tackle draft picks.

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Speaker 1: But about a month before he showed up, they really

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Speaker 1: felt like they needed more help on defense. Jerry was

511
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Speaker 1: a good two way player. He was actually the defensive

512
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Speaker 1: player of the Year in Shreport Louisiana. So he said, sure,

513
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Speaker 1: he was enrolling early. He said, I'll embrace it, and

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Speaker 1: you know, there were some growing pains with the position,

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Speaker 1: but he was in the rotation from the time he

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Speaker 1: was a freshman. I think we're also as unconventional is

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Speaker 1: you know, he had some last of maturity when he

518
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: was a younger player. He had a couple of incidents

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Speaker 1: at USC in twenty sixteen, and he also was suspended

520
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Speaker 1: from the Fiesta Bowl game his freshman year and wasn't

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Speaker 1: able to play in that so certainly had some growing

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Speaker 1: up to do, but he got to the right destination eventually,

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Speaker 1: he did, and he acknowledged that stuff and said he's

524
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Speaker 1: obviously a different player and you know, a different person

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Speaker 1: from that time. It was just kind of a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a lapse in judgment. He also referred to

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Speaker 1: himself as an ascending player. And from your vantage point

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Speaker 1: covering this team for as long as you have since

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Speaker 1: since O five, what do you remember about Jerry as

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Speaker 1: a freshman to Jerry as a senior. Well, Jerry as

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Speaker 1: a freshman was really under the spotlight because Showtime has

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Speaker 1: series called the Season with Notre Dame and where they

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Speaker 1: had these guys miked up, you know, going to class

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Speaker 1: everything else. And Jerry became a central character in this

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Speaker 1: television show. And he was kind of a goofy but

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Speaker 1: likable guy. You know, his teammates convinced him that during

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00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: practice when he had to use the porta potty, that

538
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: you had to wear your helmet into the porta potty.

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Speaker 1: There was some gullibility there, but really a fun guy,

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Speaker 1: very engaging and so forth. You know. I did a

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Speaker 1: big story on him last summer. We do an annual

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Speaker 1: magazine for our premium subscribers, and it was interesting to

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Speaker 1: see how he had redefined himself his body, his mind,

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Speaker 1: his focus, and kind of his reputation. And he turned

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Speaker 1: in really turned himself into an elite player. In a

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00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: large part of that was just working hard. You know.

547
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: He was not a big film study guy. All of

548
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, that's all he was doing. You know, he

549
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: was in the weight room getting stronger. He switched positions.

550
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: He went from nose guard to be defensive tackle, which

551
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: allowed him to be a little bit more disruptive in

552
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Speaker 1: the pass rush. I think everything about Jerry Tillery in

553
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen screamed maturity and screamed an ascending player. So

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00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: I would agree with Jerry and describing himself as that

555
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: kind of player because I think the best is still

556
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: yet to come. In this past season, two eric eight sacks.

557
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I believe that was a team high three force fumbles,

558
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: thirty tackles, ten and a half for loss, five quarterback hurries.

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00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: He was a twenty eighteen All American according to Sports

560
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Illustrated and The Athletic. You know, Pro Football Focus had

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00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: him as I believe they're they're seventh player overall in

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Speaker 1: this draft. So the fact that the Chargers get him

563
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, you don't want to put too much

564
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Speaker 1: pressure on a first round pick, but you look at

565
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Speaker 1: a guy like Darwin James, who the Charges gout at seventeen,

566
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Speaker 1: who kind of dropped and you weren't expecting him to

567
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: be there. Maybe Jerry has that same type of impact

568
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Speaker 1: based on how he has ascended from freshman software junior,

569
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Speaker 1: senior year now into the pros. I think you know

570
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: what's really telling about Jerry in the line of question

571
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: he just had there is he played two thirds of

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Speaker 1: the season with a shoulder injury that was serious enough

573
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Speaker 1: that he had surgery on it on March sixth, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know all the background about the timetable

575
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: on when he'll be ready for that, But you know,

576
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: I know his parents did not want him to play

577
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: in the Clemson game for fear that he would injure

578
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: it further. And he was absolutely a team guy and

579
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: was willing to do that. But I think his numbers

580
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: would have been much better had he been healthy on

581
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: the season that the game in which he injured it

582
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Speaker 1: was the Stanford game, and he was dominant in that game,

583
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: had multiple sacks, just was a nightmare for Stanford to

584
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: deal with. And you think about Stanford's reputation as having

585
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive lineman, Jerry just dominated that day. You

586
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: didn't see that kind of production late in the season,

587
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: just because again he was kind of playing one armed

588
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: for two thirds of the game. But it speaks to

589
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: us toughness, as commitment to football, and the fact if

590
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: he's healthy next year, you may see a bump in

591
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: that production, especially when you have guys like Joey Bosa

592
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Speaker 1: and Melvin Ingram on that defensive line. His book ends.

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Speaker 1: How much easier do you think that transition is for

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Speaker 1: a rookie, but a rookie with the talent that Jerry

595
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: has to be alongside Pro Bowl players on the defensive

596
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: ends here at the Chargers. Well, I think that certainly helps.

597
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame had some pretty good ends who decided to

598
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: stay in school. I think they both will be high

599
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: round draft choices next year. So he's used to playing

600
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: with guys like that. He had a really good position

601
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: coach in Mike Elston, who's done a great job at

602
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: developing people. You know, Isaac Rochell gives him some familiarity

603
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: per former teammate from Notre damers with the Chargers, so

604
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about the fit of the situation.

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00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Isaac was one of the first players he saw, maybe

606
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: the first player that he saw this morning. I know

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Speaker 1: Isaac's over the moon to have Jerry here in La.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of Isaac being a seventh round

609
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: pick in year one? Joey Bosi gets hurt, he fills

610
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: in very admirably, has five sacks in twenty eighteen. He's

611
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: another ascending player from Notre Dame. Eric, Yeah, I enjoyed

612
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: watching Isaac and watching him develop at Notre Dame. He's

613
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Speaker 1: not you know, the twitchy defensive end you think about,

614
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: and yet he's very smart player, very strong player, and

615
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: very smart player and really was incredibly productive at Notre Dame.

616
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Had more quarterback curries than he had sacks. But again,

617
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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that his best football is

618
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: kind of ahead of him at this point, and it

619
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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all that he's been a nice fit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Eric, as we tape this, the draft is

621
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Speaker 1: continuing and I know more Notre Dame players are going

622
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Speaker 1: to come off the board. How does that program prepare

623
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Speaker 1: their players for the pros? Because you see, I believe

624
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Speaker 1: Jerry is the ninth first round draft pick by the

625
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Irish in the last eight years. So how does Notre

626
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Dame prepare their players for the pros? Because they have

627
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot of them and these guys seem to have

628
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of success. Well, I think that Brian Kelly

629
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Speaker 1: found a real happy medium there when he came in.

630
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I think Brian wanted to camp down the NFL aspirations

631
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: of his players because he felt like Charlie Weiss over

632
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: emphasized it, and then he kind of saw, you know what,

633
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: you can be really good to college program, have kids

634
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: graduate and have that NFL dream, So Brian started making

635
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: some NFL connections. One of the guys that he taps

636
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: into is Bill Belichick from the New England Patriots. But

637
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: they do a really good job of inviting scouts to

638
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: come in to watch practices, and they in terms of

639
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. The player development at Notre Dame is outstanding

640
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: when you think about maybe where a guy comes in

641
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: and where he leaves college. You know, Jerry was the

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Speaker 1: of more dramatic improvement than that. So Brian Kelly hires teachers,

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Speaker 1: guys that can teach the position. Player development is so important.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned nine first round draft picks in eight years.

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Speaker 1: In the twelve years before that, they had to Brady

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Speaker 1: Quinn and Jeff Faine. That goes to kind of show

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Speaker 1: model Brian Kelly has going no doubt he's Eric Hanson

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Speaker 1: South Ben Tribune. Eric, that was awesome, awesome stuff, really

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Speaker 1: great insight into the charges first round pick. We may

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Speaker 1: have to give you a ring during the season if

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Speaker 1: Jerry Into or Isaac have some big games. Get your

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Speaker 1: insight man, really appreciate it. That sounds great. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on, Chris and That's gonna do it My

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Speaker 1: thanks to Eric Hansen and Eric Williams for joining me,

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Speaker 1: but of course thanks to you all for listening. Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: help spread the word. We'll have a couple more podcasts

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Speaker 1: for you over the weekend. Always appreciate you guys listening,

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Speaker 1: and until next time, I'm Chris Harry